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00:01:46 <Mekkis> #!/bin/bash
00:01:46 <Mekkis> oldtext=$1
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00:01:46 <Mekkis> pdffile=$3
00:01:46 <Mekkis> decrypt=$pdffile.decrypt
00:01:46 <Mekkis> qpdf --decrypt $pdffile $decrypt
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00:01:46 <Mekkis> sed -i "s/$oldtext/$newtext/g" $pdffile.tmp
00:01:46 <Mekkis> pdftk $pdffile.tmp output $pdffile.watermrk compress
00:01:46 <Mekkis> rm $pdffile.tmp
00:02:10 <Mekkis> oops
00:02:57 <Mekkis> ummm... Don't copy that into a text file, mark it as executable, and run it...
00:29:44 <Steven> sup
00:33:09 <Brunius> I'm back steven
00:33:11 <Brunius> aren't you glad
00:33:41 <Steven> sure am!
00:33:44 <Steven> hows it goin?
00:33:49 <Steven> and also, where did you go?
00:35:27 <Mekkis> andrey, share spells makes it touch
00:56:55 <Mekkis> there are a couple of people driving a white van trying to sell a home theatre system by yelling out the window...
00:58:43 <Mekkis> suspicious?
01:41:31 <Steven> hey avatar
01:41:33 <Steven> i made a rogue
01:41:37 <Steven> a dwarven rogue
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03:08:56 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuup
03:09:03 <Steven> so, tonight went over to moscow to play some pfs.
03:09:10 <Steven> ended up starting the AP Skull and Shackles
03:15:38 <Damalon01> yo!
03:16:14 <Steven> sup
03:26:33 <Steven> then i came home and made mac and cheese
03:29:01 <Brunius|M> In strange news from Rowany festival, Ashley's wife hugged me
03:39:11 <s_gmusic> yo
03:45:11 <Steven> what up
03:45:28 <Steven> so.... I am the most piratey pirate thats ever pirated
03:46:13 <Steven> dwarven rogue
03:46:16 <Steven> like a boss.
03:46:41 <Steven> that two hands a weapon.
03:49:40 <Mekkis> have you ever seen a colossal tree in a PFS scenario?
03:49:44 <Mekkis> what about a Huge one?
03:50:04 <Mekkis> actually.... What size tree is created by the Feather Token?
03:51:13 <Steven> a nondescript tree, assume medium sized?
03:51:32 <Steven> and yes, ive seen a huge sized tree.
03:53:30 <Mekkis> (5-footdiameter trunk, 60-foot height, 40-foot top diameter)
03:53:38 <Mekkis> that would imply 20' reach?
03:53:45 <Mekkis> or perhaps even 30'
03:54:01 * Steven shrugs.
03:56:05 <Steven> i would imagine if a tree is attacking something it would be treated as an animated objec
04:06:14 <Steven> damn i make good mac and cheese
04:30:59 <s_gmusic> .....
04:31:06 <s_gmusic> Feather Token (Tree) - 400gp
04:31:28 <s_gmusic> Grapple-focused build - character investment
04:31:42 <s_gmusic> the ability to recreate this in-game?
04:31:44 <s_gmusic> http://www.d20monkey.com/comics/2014-04-15-20140416.png
04:31:46 <s_gmusic> Priceless.
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05:10:38 <Yiroep> ......
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05:20:50 <Steven> sup
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06:47:08 <Osmann> EUZUBILLAHIMINEÞÞEYTANIRRACIM BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM
06:47:08 <Osmann> ALLAHU EKBERRRRR! LA ÝLAHE ÝLLALLAH MUHAMMEDEN RESULULLAH!
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06:47:08 <Osmann> I did the obligatory prayers five times a day to the nation. And I promised myself that, who (beside me) taking care not to make the five daily prayers comes ahead of time, I'll put it to heaven. Who says prayer does not show attention to me I do not have a word for it.! Prophet Muhammad (s.a.v.)
06:47:08 <Osmann> hell if you did until the needle tip could not remove your head from prostration Prophet Muhammad pbuh
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07:44:39 <Avatar> I'll pay if I want a proper watermarked copy
07:44:51 <Avatar> but the suggestion was read the book and you'll get it
07:45:05 <Avatar> I'm not going to buy it if I read the PRD and didn't get it
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09:31:38 <Mekkis> !spell create undead
09:31:39 <diebot> Mekkis, CREATE UNDEAD necromancy ([evil]) cleric 6, sorcerer/wizard 6 1 hour Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one corpse Comp: V, S, M (a clay pot filled with grave dirt and an onyx gem worth at least 50 gp per HD of the undead to be created) Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:noSource: PFRPG Core
09:31:39 <diebot> A much more potent spell than animate dead, this evil spell allows you to infuse a dead body with negative energy to create more powerful sorts of undead: ghouls, ghasts, mummies, and mohrgs. The type or types of undead you can create are based on your caster level, as shown on the table below. Caster Level Undead Created 11th or lower Ghoul
09:31:39 <diebot> 12th-14th Ghast 15th-17th Mummy 18th or higher Mohrg You may create less powerful undead than your level would allow if you choose. Created undead are not automatically under the control of their animator. If you are capable of commanding undead, you may attempt to command the undead creature as it forms. This spell must be cast at night.
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09:50:32 <Avatar> does anyone know how mythic works
09:50:46 <Avatar> I asked about it in the forums and pretty much got dismissed saying "read the book and you'll get it"
09:52:06 <Mekkis> Not really...
09:52:27 <Mekkis> I believe it doesn't work well :S
09:52:45 <Avatar> I don't care about balance
09:52:52 <Yiroep> What do you mean "How it works?"
09:52:53 <Avatar> I need to work out character creation
09:52:56 <Yiroep> That's very general.
09:53:18 <Avatar> have you played the newer scenarios
09:53:35 <Yiroep> I've GM seige, but nothing really beyond that with those rules.
09:53:43 <Yiroep> No, I haven't played the scenario you're talking about. :p
09:53:51 <Yiroep> So I can't really answer your question.
09:54:11 <Avatar> I can't believe I didn't get help on the forums
09:54:19 <Avatar> I guess I won't buy your book then !
09:54:27 <Mekkis> !spell antimagic field
09:54:28 <diebot> Mekkis, ANTIMAGIC FIELD abjuration ([]) cleric/oracle 8,sorcerer/wizard 6 1 standard action Range: 10 ft. Comp: V, S, M/DF (pinch of powdered iron or iron filings) Duration: 10 min./level (D) Save: none SR:see textSource: PFRPG Core
09:54:28 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/antimagic_field.html
09:54:43 <Avatar> just read it you'll be fine is the worst advice I've ever heard
09:55:13 <Avatar> well maybe not the worst, but it's bad
09:55:18 <Mekkis> I got a copy of the book
09:55:30 <Mekkis> and I pretty much decided to not bother with it
09:55:44 <Avatar> I am pirating a copy now since that is basically what they asked me to do
09:56:16 <Mekkis> sounds like a plan
09:57:51 <Yiroep> I'm planning to get a party together to do all 3 of those scenarios.
09:58:42 <Mekkis> need help replacing the watermark?
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10:06:29 <Mekkis> #!/bin/bash
10:06:30 <Mekkis> oldtext=$1
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10:06:30 <Mekkis> pdffile=$3
10:06:30 <Mekkis> decrypt=$pdffile.decrypt
10:06:30 <Mekkis> qpdf --decrypt $pdffile $decrypt
10:06:32 <Mekkis> pdftk $decrypt output $pdffile.tmp uncompress
10:06:34 <Mekkis> sed -i "s/$oldtext/$newtext/g" $pdffile.tmp
10:06:36 <Mekkis> pdftk $pdffile.tmp output $pdffile.watermrk compress
10:06:38 <Mekkis> rm $pdffile.tmp
10:06:54 <Mekkis> oops
10:07:40 <Mekkis> ummm... Don't copy that into a text file, mark it as executable, and run it...
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13:33:44 <Brunius|M> In strange news from Rowany festival, Ashley's wife hugged me
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14:25:00 <Steven> sup
14:28:25 <Brunius> I'm back steven
14:28:27 <Brunius> aren't you glad
14:28:57 <Steven> sure am!
14:29:00 <Steven> hows it goin?
14:29:05 <Steven> and also, where did you go?
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15:15:21 <Yiroep> ......
15:25:33 <Steven> sup
15:36:47 <Steven> hey avatar
15:36:49 <Steven> i made a rogue
15:36:53 <Steven> a dwarven rogue
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16:02:17 <Mekkis> Steven, tell me about it.
16:02:25 <Mekkis> Brunius, you're back?!
16:02:28 <Mekkis> Wow.
16:02:36 <Steven> i know right mekkis... mind blowing
16:02:49 <Brunius> I am indeed back
16:02:57 <Brunius> and I can tell you how annoying reach weapons are IRL
16:03:05 <Mekkis> to use or to face?
16:03:11 <Brunius> to face
16:03:18 <Mekkis> you know the solution.
16:03:27 <Brunius> bloody 9 foot pikes kept hitting me
16:03:28 <Mekkis> Become A Pikeman.
16:03:33 <Mekkis> 9 foot?
16:03:38 <Brunius> I think that's the plan for next year
16:03:39 <Brunius> Yeah
16:03:45 <Mekkis> Wikipedia states that they could go up to 25 feet!
16:03:54 <Brunius> There's seperate paperwork for 9 foot and 12 foot pikes
16:03:59 <Brunius> so mainly I was facing 9 foot
16:04:24 <Brunius> Hopefully by next year we'll have some pikemen of our own, and archers
16:04:35 <Brunius> We had archer support but hadn't trained with them before so it was less than optimal
16:05:05 <Mekkis> I suggest m249
16:05:18 <Brunius> is that a minimi?
16:05:22 <Mekkis> ja
16:05:33 <Brunius> that's about 400 years out of period
16:05:48 <Mekkis> what about a Maxim?
16:06:03 <Brunius> probably also 400 years out of period
16:06:22 <Mekkis> there's like. 150 years between the two...
16:06:36 <Brunius> late period fighting uses rubber band guns for simulation of flintlocks and that's the most advanced weaponry you get
16:07:22 <Mekkis> how many times did you die?
16:08:21 <Brunius> twice per scenario for the first four, so eight times on the first day
16:08:26 <Brunius> humm
16:08:36 <Steven> got hit with some breath of life did ya?
16:08:37 <Brunius> don't remember how many scenarios were on the second day
16:08:45 <Brunius> but probably 20-30 times
16:09:39 <Mekkis> The pike was a long weapon, varying considerably in size, from 3 to 7.5 metres (10 to 25 feet) long.
16:10:00 <Mekkis> Steven, question regarding UMD.
16:10:21 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuup
16:10:24 <Mekkis> If I have 20 charisma, and 7 wisdom, and I want to UMD a Breath of Life scroll.
16:10:41 <Steven> you're fucked.
16:10:47 <Steven> lol
16:10:52 <Brunius> top kek
16:10:59 <Mekkis> Could I pretend to be an oracle, to avoid the initial DC30 UMD check to emulate Wis 15?
16:11:35 <Mekkis> given that I already meet the oracle's Cha15 requirement?
16:11:38 <Steven> sadly all scrolls are assumed to be made by wizards and Clerics unless it does not appear on their spell list.
16:12:02 <Mekkis> ok. Fair enough.
16:12:31 <Steven> it really sucks cause that has cost a few characters their lives before.
16:12:36 <Mekkis> (for the record, I wasn't fucked. When Riddywipple flew down to Breath of Life Ulzef's character, he succeeded both checks.
16:12:48 <Steven> YAY!
16:13:17 <Mekkis> That being said, Evolved Familiar (Skilled (UMD)) has now been taken.
16:13:22 <Steven> i pretty much hate the UMD rules for scrolls.
16:13:31 <Mekkis> Bringing Riddywipple's UMD to +25
16:14:06 <Steven> but i realize why the DCs need to be high
16:14:34 <Steven> cause otherwise everyone would be a fighter and just carry around scrolls
16:14:39 <Mekkis> Riddywipple with a staff of radiance is a force to be reckoned with
16:14:46 <Mekkis> :)
16:15:16 <Steven> my necromancer would have a riddywipple but their alignments did not match up at all.
16:15:37 <Steven> so i have an imp
16:15:37 <Mekkis> Given how Riddywipple is encountered, I would agree.
16:15:58 <Mekkis> cast AMF, Share Spells with Riddywipple.
16:16:41 <Steven> yeah yesterday we started a skull and shackles game
16:16:45 <Steven> spur of the moment
16:17:24 <Steven> and we have a buccaneer Bard, a swashbuckler, and a Pirate(me) rogue
16:17:31 <Mekkis> ah
16:17:33 <Mekkis> cool.
16:17:43 <Mekkis> What's a dwarf doing on a ship?
16:17:46 <Steven> so none of our characters had traits.
16:18:25 <Mekkis> Get with the times, Steven. Aristocrat is where it's at.
16:19:05 <Mekkis> Rogue is too powerful
16:19:24 <Steven> nah... its a dwarven rogue... with positive charisma.
16:19:36 <Steven> hahaahahah
16:19:42 <Brunius> >2014
16:19:49 <Brunius> >positive charisma
16:20:26 <Mekkis> never seen a character with negative charisma. Generally you're unable to act when it reaches zero
16:21:21 <Steven> you know what i mean.
16:22:02 <Mekkis> So. A company who's been emailing me with offers sent me an email. I replied, asking them to remove me from their list.
16:22:19 <Mekkis> they replied, with the subject line:
16:22:23 <Mekkis> Subject: RE: [SUSPECTED-SPAM-NAS-EMAIL-FILTER] Re: $100 Paid research group on Career choices
16:22:47 <Mekkis> It seems that their spam filter caught my reply and thought it was spam.
16:23:00 <Brunius> ...
16:24:41 <Steven> damn it... my internet is bein funky
16:25:03 <Mekkis> I have a character with ASF.
16:25:09 <Mekkis> Because someone needs to do it!
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16:26:56 <Steven> well that should be better
16:27:58 <Mekkis> I mean, Arcane Spell Failure is such an underused rule
16:28:48 <Mekkis> I think I won't bother enforcing additional resources tonight
16:29:16 <Steven> cool... i'll play a character that has rich parents
16:29:21 <Mekkis> it's Easter
16:29:32 <Mekkis> no problem, Steven
16:29:40 <Steven> and the other one
16:29:50 <Steven> that also gives like 800g
16:29:57 <Mekkis> cool
16:30:21 <Mekkis> I'll also hand out faction missions
16:30:29 <Mekkis> and hand out prestige
16:30:48 <Steven> i do that occasionally
16:30:48 <Steven> tell people they are totally optional
16:30:55 <Mekkis> I don't
16:31:13 <Steven> and they are so not optional.
16:31:30 <Mekkis> I portray that succeeding your faction mission is a Creative Solution to the problem of getting your second prestige.
16:31:42 <Mekkis> it's all legal according to the Guide.
16:32:42 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/rogue/rogue-talents/paizo---rogue-talents/flying-stunt-ex
16:32:48 <Steven> actually pretty interesting
16:33:53 <Steven> so in the S&S game, we woke up in the hold of a ship, i threw up on an elf.
16:34:06 <Steven> he made a fort save to not throw up
16:34:13 <Steven> and succeeded
16:34:27 <Steven> so my character immediately started making retching sounds at him.
16:34:37 <Steven> until he threw up.
16:35:10 <Steven> then shoved him into his and my vomit.
16:35:31 <Steven> gm was like WTF STEVE
16:35:36 <Steven> and i was like... CE bitch.
16:38:29 <Steven> but my dwarf is named Fezzik, we have the swashbuckler named Inigo, and the bard named Roberts
16:38:58 <Brunius> totally original
16:39:03 <Mekkis> that's pretty disgusting, really
16:39:07 <Steven> and then like an hour into the game the GM is like why do you guys keep laughing when i ask things
16:39:18 <Steven> and we are like Princess bride.
16:39:22 <Steven> and it turns out... he has never seen it.
16:39:54 <Steven> so it was a lot less funny after that.
16:51:51 <Osmann> EUZUBILLAHIMINEÞÞEYTANIRRACIM BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM
16:51:52 <Osmann> ALLAHU EKBERRRRR! LA ÝLAHE ÝLLALLAH MUHAMMEDEN RESULULLAH!
16:51:52 <Osmann> I did the obligatory prayers five times a day to the nation. And I promised myself that, who (beside me) taking care not to make the five daily prayers comes ahead of time, I'll put it to heaven. Who says prayer does not show attention to me I do not have a word for it.! Prophet Muhammad (s.a.v.)
16:51:52 <Osmann> hell if you did until the needle tip could not remove your head from prostration Prophet Muhammad pbuh
17:49:23 <Avatar> I'll pay if I want a proper watermarked copy
17:49:35 <Avatar> but the suggestion was read the book and you'll get it
17:49:49 <Avatar> I'm not going to buy it if I read the PRD and didn't get it
19:59:11 <Mekkis> !spell antimagic field
19:59:12 <diebot> Mekkis, ANTIMAGIC FIELD abjuration ([]) cleric/oracle 8,sorcerer/wizard 6 1 standard action Range: 10 ft. Comp: V, S, M/DF (pinch of powdered iron or iron filings) Duration: 10 min./level (D) Save: none SR:see textSource: PFRPG Core
19:59:12 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/antimagic_field.html
19:59:21 <Yiroep> I really like the support/buff role, though.
19:59:30 <Steven> when i get to level 15 with my inquisitor gunslinger i can do the namedbullet thing
19:59:40 <Yiroep> I like being like "Muahahaha, I made the efficiency of our team 200% better! Hahaha!"
20:00:00 <Yiroep> Which is why I play so many oracles and bards.
20:00:06 <Steven> buffers are the most under appreciated class up at my store,
20:00:46 <Steven> everyone wants to be a big fat DPS Murder Hobo
20:01:40 <Yiroep> Dude, my home game Juju oracle is a beast. She doesn't do jack crap in combat, but man...She gives everyone +5 weapons and armor, has undead everywhere, everyone has freedom of movement and spell immunities going on, ant haul for dispel bait, magic circles everywhere....
20:01:49 <Yiroep> Impossible to even touch our melee character with her around.
20:02:53 <Yiroep> She just got level 8 spells. I decided on greater spell immunity, lol.
20:03:08 <Yiroep> Confusion and insanity have met their end on our party.
20:03:23 <Steven> well just take all the fun out of the game.
20:03:30 <Yiroep> LOL!
20:03:46 <Yiroep> There was a battle where she got completely owned, though.
20:04:20 <Yiroep> Agile witch commanded undead on both her undead in the surprise round. She had to get rid of them with some heals, then the witch came up to her and slumber hexed + coup de graced in the same round.
20:04:42 <Yiroep> Was pretty brutal, but was awesome.
20:04:58 <Steven> i got a 'boon' where when i roll for confusion i add 5 to the result on my Shadow Dancer
20:05:15 <Yiroep> I got that on one of my characters.
20:05:19 <Steven> and people were like hey we can get rid of that RIGHT NOW
20:05:21 <Yiroep> Can't remember where I got it, had to check.
20:05:26 <Steven> and im like FUCK NO ITS STAYING!
20:05:35 <Yiroep> have*
20:06:12 <Yiroep> Oh yeah forgot I do life bubble too...oh wait, no I just let the druid do it.
20:06:17 <Yiroep> Have to make him do something, right?
20:06:25 <Yiroep> Other than shape change 24/7.
20:07:18 <Yiroep> Oh yeah, I go completely nutso in our home game just because I know the GM will (and does) ramp things up for us. Makes it more fun.
20:07:31 <Yiroep> Fought so many agile things....
20:09:45 <Yiroep> We got messed up by that pale stranger, though. Those things are sick.
20:10:48 <Steven> back
20:11:03 <s_gmusic> lvl 5 Slayer (playtest) then go Living Monolith for the next 7 levels. Y/N?
20:11:04 <Yiroep> Oh, he even ramped that up I think. I think he made it incorporeal, lol.
20:11:42 <Steven> you can do whatcha want gmusic
20:11:47 <Steven> but it sounds fine.
20:12:07 <Steven> considering we know nothing about the character
20:12:23 <Steven> The creature i really really like.
20:12:26 <Yiroep> My favorite combo someone said was Slayer 6/HW 3/Slayer X.
20:12:35 <Yiroep> 6 is a perfect level to dip out of slayer.
20:12:46 <Yiroep> (Horizon Walker, btw)
20:12:55 <Steven> A roper
20:12:58 <Yiroep> LOL
20:13:03 <Yiroep> Oh, that damn thing.
20:13:41 <Steven> we made a mythic version
20:13:47 <Steven> Its fucking disgusting.
20:14:05 <Steven> makes the regular roper look like a goblin.
20:14:15 <Steven> anyways, goin to moscow, peace guys!
20:21:10 <s_gmusic> ideally, this character would qualify for Living Monolith as soon as possible. pre-reqs are BAB +5, Know (Religion) 2 ranks, Know (History) and (Engineering) 4 ranks, Endurance feat, Iron Will feat, and the Sphinx and Ancient Osiriani Languages.
20:21:49 <s_gmusic> Slayer's a full BAB class, and I can hit the other pre-reqs up to level 5, meaning I can take Living Monolith starting at 6th level.
20:23:54 <Yiroep> Well, what do you hope to get from Slayer?
20:26:43 <s_gmusic> 5 slayer has good BAB, Fort, Ref, sneak attack, favored target +2, and 2 talents drawn from its list or the rogues
20:27:17 <s_gmusic> the other option was going to be 5 Fighter before going living monolith
20:27:21 <Yiroep> K. I'll list an alternate I was thinking of. 2 slayer/3 weapon master fighter.
20:27:34 <s_gmusic> oh?
20:29:03 <Yiroep> You don't lose on any save, gain 2 on fort, get to have +1 to attack in a weapon group, which is arguably better than increasing favored target to +2, and get to have 2 more feats.
20:29:10 <Yiroep> You do lose a talent and sneak attack, though.
20:30:29 <s_gmusic> hm...
20:32:11 <s_gmusic> sneak attack isn't much of a thing, because I'd only worry about it if flanking, and talents don't really appeal to me
20:32:30 <Yiroep> In exchange for those 2 things, you get a lot of stuff from fighter.
20:32:31 <Yiroep> Also...
20:32:41 <Yiroep> Having weapon training allows you to get Gloves of Dueling.
20:34:21 <s_gmusic> the appeal of using Slayer levels is that it's a full BAB class with 2 "Good" Save progressions and many skills. the other thing on it I'd use would be the Favored Target ability for a couple more points of damage
20:34:51 <Yiroep> Right, but weapon master also gives you damage. And 3 levels is great for a weapon master.
20:35:34 <Yiroep> And with just slayer, you get +4 fort, +4 reflex, and +1 will. With fighter, you get +6 fort, +4 reflex, and +1 will.
20:35:40 <Yiroep> I mean with both slayer and fighter.
20:36:32 <s_gmusic> yeah, got that. low will is gonna hurt, but that's true for most characters.
20:36:51 <Yiroep> I mean, if you're talking fighter and slayer, you've already committed to it. :p
20:37:05 <s_gmusic> if I could be arsed to clean off my desk, I'd get my other computer out and start playing in herolab
20:37:08 <s_gmusic> :\
20:37:09 <Yiroep> It's not gonna be higher than +1 for 5 levels of either of those. :p
20:38:57 <s_gmusic> true. kinda glad for the Iron Will pre-req feat on that.
20:39:16 <s_gmusic> also, still haven't chosen a race yet for this build
20:40:10 <Yiroep> Hrm, I wonder how 1 wizard/1 fighter/4 eldritch knight/X living monolith would be.
20:40:37 <s_gmusic> Thinking of two-handing a katana, but take the feat for it, too, so I have a slight option in attacking.
20:40:49 <s_gmusic> why split like that?
20:41:11 <Yiroep> Well, with the People of the Sands, living monolith now has a caster option.
20:42:09 <s_gmusic> yup, but I was mainly stumped by the Eldritch Knight levels.
20:42:15 <Yiroep> To get BAB faster.
20:43:39 <s_gmusic> 3 fighter/3 magus/x monolith instead?
20:43:58 <Yiroep> Actually 2 wizard/1 fighter/ 3 EK/ X monolith is better than what I said.
20:44:10 <Yiroep> Hrm, magus could be cool, too.
20:44:21 <Yiroep> I would probably go 4 magus, though.
20:44:24 <s_gmusic> magus isn't full BAB, though
20:44:55 <s_gmusic> well, yeah
20:45:03 <s_gmusic> magus 4/ftr 2 would work
20:45:19 <Yiroep> I don't want another magus, though. :p
20:45:26 <s_gmusic> ah
20:45:29 <Yiroep> I like mine but damage isn't my style in Pathfinder.
20:45:53 <s_gmusic> guessing you'd use tiefling or aasimar for the EK spellcasting pre-req?
20:45:56 <Yiroep> I like the support/healer/buff role the most, followed by the battlefield controller role.
20:45:59 <Yiroep> Yeah, I'd have to.
20:47:09 <Yiroep> I love having people that deal damage in my party, though. :p
20:48:01 <Yiroep> I have thought about a gunslinger/oracle that gets as many rerolls as possible. I think that would be fun and funny to play.
20:49:22 <Yiroep> Fortune's Friend was my favorite 3.5 prestige class that I never got to play.
20:49:29 <s_gmusic> if I'm looking at this all right, then the 1w/1f/3ek/xmonolith build would have spellcasting equivilent to a 10th lvl wizard. EK puts you behind one level before its bumps kick in, then Monolith would put you behind a second level
20:50:07 <Yiroep> 9th level wizard at 12.
20:50:23 <Yiroep> Losses: Fighter 1/EK 1/Monolith 1.
20:50:32 <s_gmusic> ah, forgot about the fighter dip
20:50:43 <Yiroep> After your first monolith level, you wouldn't have to lose a single spellcaster level ever again.
20:50:54 <Yiroep> Cause even if you go super high, you can continue EK.
20:51:37 <s_gmusic> trying to clear off my table... keep finding more things. :|
20:53:24 <Yiroep> +9 BAB and 5th level spells at level 12.
20:53:26 <Yiroep> Not so shabby.
20:55:24 <Yiroep> I had a guy who played a dwarf wizard, though, and just used the Transformation spell when he wanted to melee.
20:55:27 <Yiroep> He was quite effective.
20:56:43 <s_gmusic> just picked up a large mass of WoW TCG and MTG cards off my table and dropped them into a box. in doing so, I found some pathfinder minis. :|
20:58:58 <s_gmusic> i need a bigger box. >.>
21:00:56 <s_gmusic> starting to wonder if trading cards begin to breed if left alone for too long. there shouldn't be this many. :\
22:10:06 <Brunius> `op
22:17:14 <Brunius> Can I just note that when you haven't seen your face for a week, it's very strange to go to wash your hands in a gas station bathroom and suddenly see it in the mirror
22:24:36 <s_gmusic|Work> heh
22:25:33 <andrey> !spell burning gaze
22:25:33 <diebot> andrey, BURNING GAZE evocation ([fire]) druid 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, witch 2, magus 2 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S, M/DF (eye of a mundane salamander) Duration: 1 round/level Save: Fortitude negates (see text) SR:yesSource: APG
22:25:34 <diebot> Your eyes burn like hot coals, allowing you to set objects or foes alight with a glance. As a standard action as long as this spell's effects persist, you may direct your burning gaze against a single creature or object within 30 feet of your location. Targeted creatures must succeed at a Fortitude save or take 1d6 points of fire damage. Unattended
22:25:34 <diebot> objects do not get a save. Creatures damaged by the spell must make a Reflex save or catch fire. Each round, burning creatures may attempt a Reflex save to quench the flames; failure results in another 1d6 points of fire damage. Flammable items worn by a creature must also save or take the same damage as the creature. If a creature or object is
22:25:34 <diebot> already on fire, it suffers no additional effects from burning gaze. Note that this spell does not grant an actual gaze attack- foes and allies are not in danger of catching on fire simply by meeting your gaze.
22:25:52 <andrey> so, rule-bending question: is it compatible with reach spell?
22:26:17 <andrey> yes the range say touch, buy maybe you could still increase the range of the gaze somehow?
22:28:33 <andrey> s/youch/personal/
22:28:43 <andrey> s/youch/touch
22:45:20 <s_gmusic> I would say that you can not use the Reach Spell feat on Burning Gaze. Reach Spell can only affect spells with ranges of Touch, Close, or Medium. Burning Gaze has Range: Personal, which isn't listed as being affected by the feat.
22:52:26 <andrey> so, no way at all to make it go farther?
23:05:36 <s_gmusic> there may be a way, but I'm not sure