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30:05 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sat Apr 12 14:25:26 2014
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35:27 <Mekkis> andrey, share spells makes it touch
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56:55 <Mekkis> there are a couple of people driving a white van trying to sell a home theatre system by yelling out the window...
58:43 <Mekkis> suspicious?
42:14 <s_gmusic> and home
08:56 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuup
09:03 <Steven> so, tonight went over to moscow to play some pfs.
09:10 <Steven> ended up starting the AP Skull and Shackles
15:38 <Damalon01> yo!
16:14 <Steven> sup
26:33 <Steven> then i came home and made mac and cheese
39:11 <s_gmusic> yo
44:19 <Mekkis> !spell invisibility purge
44:20 <diebot> Mekkis, INVISIBILITY PURGE evocation ([]) cleric 3, inquisitor 3 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 min./level Save:  SR:Source: PFRPG Core
44:20 <diebot> You surround yourself with a sphere of power with a radius of 5 feet per caster level that negates all forms of invisibility. Anything invisible becomes visible while in the area.
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44:42 <Avatar> scroll of see invis
44:53 <Mekkis> !search see invisibility
44:54 <diebot> Mekkis, 20 items found and PMed to Mekkis.
45:11 <Steven> what up
45:22 <Avatar> !search see invisibility
45:22 <diebot> Avatar, 20 items found and PMed to Avatar.
45:28 <Mekkis> yeah. For Invisibility, you really need someone to be able to locate them
45:28 <Steven> so.... I am the most piratey pirate thats ever pirated
46:09 <Avatar> !item jingasa of the fortunate soldier
46:09 <diebot> Avatar, JINGASA OF THE FORTUNATE SOLDIER [strong divination] CL:15 head 5000gp, 3lb
46:10 <diebot> This conical iron jingasa, or war hat, grants the wearer a +1 luck bonus to AC. Once per day when struck by a critical hit or sneak attack, the wearer can spend an immediate action to negate the critical hit or sneak attack (similar to the fortification armor special ability, but without requiring a roll). The damage is instead rolled normally.
46:10 <diebot> Source: Ultimate Equipment
46:13 <Steven> dwarven rogue
46:16 <Steven> like a boss.
46:18 <Avatar> I never should have let those jokers talk me out of buying that
46:22 <Mekkis> because the cheapest See Invisibility effect is the Mask of the Mantis
46:25 <Mekkis> why?
46:30 <Avatar> why what
46:41 <Steven> that two hands a weapon.
47:02 <Mekkis> I'd rather the Dream Journal.
47:13 <andrey> it's not a core item
47:14 <Mekkis> doesn't make you look like an idiot.
47:24 <Avatar> you don't need to look like an idiot apparently
47:26 <andrey> mantis makes you look badass
47:28 <Avatar> you can just reflavour any item you like !
47:39 <Mekkis> not around Stephen or Andrei
47:49 <Avatar> forums say otherwise
48:01 <Mekkis> regardless.
48:27 <Mekkis> All the broken items in the world doesn't save you if you waste a turn slumbering a vermin.
48:49 <Avatar> actually it is a PFS FAQ
49:05 <Avatar> oh wait I lie
49:09 <Avatar> it actually says you can't
49:22 <Avatar> A player may not re-skin items to be something for which there are no specific rules, and any item a character uses for which there are no stats is considered an improvised weapon (see page 144 of the Pathfinder RPG Core Rulebook).
49:40 <Mekkis> have you ever seen a colossal tree in a PFS scenario?
49:44 <Mekkis> what about a Huge one?
50:04 <Mekkis> actually.... What size tree is created by the Feather Token?
50:36 <Mekkis> andrey, I'm not saying the mask of the mantis doesn't make you look badass.
50:55 <Avatar> turns out I could've come to conquest today
51:04 <Mekkis> But both the Jingasa and the Mask Might Not look like what your character would look like wearing
51:13 <Steven> a nondescript tree, assume medium sized?
51:30 <Avatar> oh wait there is nothing I would've wanted to play this morning
51:32 <Steven> and yes, ive seen a huge sized tree.
51:35 <Avatar> weapon in the rift lol
51:58 <Avatar> are you at conquest mekkis
52:02 <Avatar> or did you not find a game
52:14 <Mekkis> I didn't.
52:21 <Mekkis> met up with family
52:30 <Avatar> monday seems similarly problematic
52:32 <Mekkis> for lunch/afternoon stuff
52:39 <Mekkis> I'm playing Hinojai
52:45 <Avatar> I don't think you can play part 3 of destiny of the sands without playing part 2
53:03 <Mekkis> you shouldn't
53:10 <Avatar> are there rules to cover it
53:21 <Mekkis> yes. But you shouldn't
53:23 <Avatar> I've played part 2, but on a different character who isn't 3rd level yet
53:30 <Mekkis>  (5-footdiameter trunk, 60-foot height, 40-foot top diameter)
53:37 <Mekkis> same here.
53:38 <Mekkis> that would imply 20' reach?
53:39 <Avatar> needs one more 1-5 game
53:45 <Mekkis> or perhaps even 30'
53:55 <Mekkis> should run something tonight :P
54:01 * Steven shrugs.
54:06 <Avatar> going out tonight
54:14 <Avatar> would've been a good plan though
55:08 <Mekkis> actually my character needs two XPs
55:19 <Mekkis> run Godsmouth 
56:05 <Steven> i would imagine if a tree is attacking something it would be treated as an animated objec
57:02 <Steven> yo
57:48 <Mekkis> ssh
58:26 <Avatar> steven saw your photo
58:29 <Avatar> you look like a bad ass
58:40 <diebot> and that's how we finished Bonekeep III in 20 minutes, with full loot. Can't wait for the next one.
59:03 <Steven> thats how i look pretty much all the time avatar.
59:17 <Mekkis> a bad ass?
59:40 <Steven> suppose so.
00:17 <Steven> reading/prepping part 2 of eyes of the ten.
03:34 <Steven> really compared to the first part Prepping the second part is soooooooo easy
05:26 <Mekkis> an hour prep should be enough for anyone!
05:59 <Steven> yeag for the most part
06:14 <Steven> damn i make good mac and cheese
06:42 <Mekkis> hey, can you give me around 900k. There's a house that would be good.
07:37 <Steven> sorry down to my last half a million.
07:48 <Steven> you'll have to wait till next week when i get paid again.
07:54 <Mekkis> I can wait
08:06 <Mekkis> for a few weeks
14:38 <Avatar> two weeks
19:29 <Mekkis> trying to get networking to work on my windows NT3.1 VM
23:41 <steven> suuuuuuuup
25:59 <Steven> you guys submit a hero yet?
26:01 <Steven> http://paizo.com/pathfinder/heroesOfMagnimar/v5748eaic9rvz
30:59 <s_gmusic> .....
31:06 <s_gmusic> Feather Token (Tree) - 400gp
31:28 <s_gmusic> Grapple-focused build - character investment
31:42 <s_gmusic> the ability to recreate this in-game?
31:44 <s_gmusic> http://www.d20monkey.com/comics/2014-04-15-20140416.png
31:46 <s_gmusic> Priceless.
37:57 <Steven> so who you gonna put in the hat avatar?
40:21 <Avatar> what does that mean sorry
40:33 <Steven> click my link.
40:50 <Avatar> I am not submitting a 300 word anything to paizo
41:24 <Steven> not even to be featured in the awesome and only comic series i purchase?
41:26 <Avatar> I will submit something when mike brock can give me a decent ruling on a game
42:38 <Steven> still angry bout your convention thing?
45:00 <Steven> so why wouldnt you want them to draw up your character and put it officially in the golarion world?
47:08 <Steven> i'm thinking maybe Ahtuz
49:11 <Steven> Ausk wouldnt fit well in the city of strangers, he's a Shackles Pirate.
50:49 <Steven> Honey is verging on divinity at this point, so that would be like 'oh look an angel /yawn'
53:12 <Steven> suppose my shadow dancer would be alright.
56:43 <steven> i'm thinkin upgrade my +2 Belt
05:10 <steven> mebe aomf
08:47 <Avatar> he's never given me a reasonable fix
08:58 <Avatar> the waking rune was one of a few I'd brought to him
17:53 <Mekkis> Avatar, 
18:03 <Mekkis> !item Ring of Transposition
18:04 <diebot> Mekkis, RING OF TRANSPOSITION [moderate conjuration] CL:10 ring 10800gp, 0lb
18:05 <diebot> On command, the wearer of this ring can touch it to another ring, magical or mundane, and bind it to the ring of transposition. Once per day, the wearer of the ring of transposition can speak a command word to exchange places with the creature wearing the bonded ring, which must be within 800 feet, as though using a dimension door spell against a
18:05 <diebot> willing target. In the process, the ring of transposition trades places with the ring on the other creature's hand, and the bond between the rings is broken. The bonding property of the ring of transposition can be used as often as desired, breaking any existing bond each time it is used. An existing bond can be broken by a successful dispel check
18:05 <diebot> against the caster level of the ring. Source: Ultimate Equipment
23:32 <Avatar> better than ?
51:13 <Mekkis> Avatar, consider it instead of the cape
51:17 <Mekkis> so... Riddywipple saved Ulzef's character.
52:15 <shadsam> -> *serenity* hope ur kids die <shadsam> serenity has shit stained underwear
52:16 <shadsam> -> *serenity* hope ur kids die <shadsam> serenity has shit stained underwear
03:34 <Avatar> that sounds like the beginning of a story rather than the end
34:41 <Damalon01> sorry guys i forgot i had this on. I played 'the many fortunes of grandmaster torch' and Bonekeep part 2
34:54 <Avatar> mate as if you would forget you had this on
35:05 <Avatar> as if you would forget about us
35:52 <Damalon01> lol i was distracted by ESO :P
43:12 <Damalon01> what did you guys play?
43:25 <Avatar> destiny 1 and port godless
43:41 <Avatar> I've played destiny 2 but couldn't play destiny 3 because I'm out of tier
43:50 <Avatar> making it a 3-7 seems like a mistake
43:59 <Avatar> half the players can't play it
44:15 <Avatar> part 3 that is, the others are 1-5
44:38 <Mekkis> Weapons in the Rift, Port Godless, Many Fortunes of GM Torch, and Haunting of Hinoji
44:56 <Avatar> hadn't you played haunting of hinojai
45:22 <Mekkis> Haunting was a difficult scenario
45:32 <Mekkis> nope
45:52 <Mekkis> that first encounter was deadly
48:33 <Mekkis> I suppose the party makeup was really suboptima
22:52 <Mekkis> yay. BSoD
29:45 <Damalon01> so heres my problem with Bonekeep. You get paid quite well, assuming you complete it. But the negative boon has no written cure. Mekkis theorised a Wish spell. a Wish spell would easily cost most if not all of the gold you get from the scenario, thus negating yet further the promise of great rewards made by the scenario.
30:38 <Mekkis> Damalon01, I agree that it is an issue.
30:56 <Mekkis> I don't like it.
32:07 <Damalon01> Osrim the Fish and I both gave it 1 star reviews.
34:37 <Mekkis> if you do want it removed, you can play part three with me...
35:12 <Damalon01> is part three out? is there a cure boon on its chronicle?
35:25 <Mekkis> nope, and probably not.
35:56 <Mekkis> But, I'll be giving out wishes there.
36:16 <Damalon01> then no thank you. the only way i can think of that part 3 would be worthwhile is if part 3 removed the negative boons from the previous scenarios.
36:25 <Damalon01> are you sure wishes will do it?
36:54 <Mekkis> depends on the GM, but I'm pretty sure that if Stephen or Andrey GMs, they'll allow it.
37:14 <Damalon01> but wouldnt Mike Brock have the final say so?
37:21 <Damalon01> couldnt he vetto them?
37:23 <Mekkis> yes and no.
37:55 <Damalon01> i think he could its wether or not he would
37:57 <Mekkis> if it happens at a table, it's happened. There is a slight chance of Brock vetoing it, but I'd call it unlikely
38:32 <Mekkis> That being said, he doesn't have much of a reputation for overriding table rulings
38:51 <Damalon01> nah itd cause too much strife.
40:43 <Damalon01> see i think that since the neg boon has no written cure, a GM could easily rule that there is none. 
40:55 <Damalon01> that not even a wish can cure it
41:15 <Mekkis> I can see that. I also can't see Andrei or Stephen ruling like that
41:19 <Damalon01> cant sorry
41:50 <Damalon01> true, any fair GM would see reason. But Bonekeep wasnt written in the spirit of fairness was it?
42:02 <Mekkis> I wish I knew
47:17 <Mekkis> as far as I can tell, it wasn't
48:13 <Mekkis> I don't know what Paizo is doing these days, to be honest
49:34 <Mekkis> looks like my winNT3.1 install is getting less and less stable, as I try to get more of it to work
58:20 <Avatar> I am a bit sore about that 1-5 tonight idea you had mekkis
58:24 <Avatar> that would have worked out fantastically
31:38 <Mekkis> !spell create undead
31:39 <diebot> Mekkis, CREATE UNDEAD necromancy ([evil]) cleric 6, sorcerer/wizard 6 1 hour Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one corpse Comp: V, S, M (a clay pot filled with grave dirt and an onyx gem worth at least 50 gp per HD of the undead to be created) Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:noSource: PFRPG Core
31:39 <diebot> A much more potent spell than animate dead, this evil spell allows you to infuse a dead body with negative energy to create more powerful sorts of undead: ghouls, ghasts, mummies, and mohrgs. The type or types of undead you can create are based on your caster level, as shown on the table below. Caster Level Undead Created 11th or lower Ghoul
31:39 <diebot> 12th-14th Ghast 15th-17th Mummy 18th or higher Mohrg You may create less powerful undead than your level would allow if you choose. Created undead are not automatically under the control of their animator. If you are capable of commanding undead, you may attempt to command the undead creature as it forms. This spell must be cast at night.
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53:28 Mekkis sets mode -R Mekkis
53:28 Mekkis sets mode -i Mekkis
53:28 Mekkis sets mode -w Mekkis
53:28 Mekkis sets mode -x Mekkis
53:31 Mekkis sets mode +w Mekkis
53:31 Mekkis sets mode +i Mekkis
53:31 Mekkis sets mode +R Mekkis
53:31 aura.vic.au.austnet.org sets mode +x Mekkis
54:41 <Yiroep> I really like the support/buff role, though.
54:50 <Steven> when i get to level 15 with my inquisitor gunslinger i can do the namedbullet thing
55:00 <Yiroep> I like being like "Muahahaha, I made the efficiency of our team 200% better! Hahaha!"
55:20 <Yiroep> Which is why I play so many oracles and bards.
55:26 <Steven> buffers are the most under appreciated class up at my store, 
56:05 <Steven> everyone wants to be a big fat DPS Murder Hobo
57:00 <Yiroep> Dude, my home game Juju oracle is a beast. She doesn't do jack crap in combat, but man...She gives everyone +5 weapons and armor, has undead everywhere, everyone has freedom of movement and spell immunities going on, ant haul for dispel bait, magic circles everywhere....
57:08 <Yiroep> Impossible to even touch our melee character with her around.
58:13 <Yiroep> She just got level 8 spells. I decided on greater spell immunity, lol.
58:27 <Yiroep> Confusion and insanity have met their end on our party.
58:43 <Steven> well just take all the fun out of the game.
58:50 <Yiroep> LOL!
59:06 <Yiroep> There was a battle where she got completely owned, though.
59:40 <Yiroep> Agile witch commanded undead on both her undead in the surprise round. She had to get rid of them with some heals, then the witch came up to her and slumber hexed + coup de graced in the same round.
00:02 <Yiroep> Was pretty brutal, but was awesome.
00:19 <Steven> i got a 'boon' where when i roll for confusion i add 5 to the result on my Shadow Dancer
00:35 <Yiroep> I got that on one of my characters.
00:39 <Steven> and people were like hey we can get rid of that RIGHT NOW
00:41 <Yiroep> Can't remember where I got it, had to check.
00:46 <Steven> and im like FUCK NO ITS STAYING!
00:55 <Yiroep> have*
01:34 <Yiroep> Oh yeah forgot I do life bubble too...oh wait, no I just let the druid do it.
01:37 <Yiroep> Have to make him do something, right?
01:45 <Yiroep> Other than shape change 24/7.
02:38 <Yiroep> Oh yeah, I go completely nutso in our home game just because I know the GM will (and does) ramp things up for us. Makes it more fun.
02:51 <Yiroep> Fought so many agile things....
05:07 <Yiroep> We got messed up by that pale stranger, though. Those things are sick.
06:08 <Steven> back
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44:57 <Mekkis> have you ever seen a colossal tree in a PFS scenario?
45:02 <Mekkis> what about a Huge one?
45:21 <Mekkis> actually.... What size tree is created by the Feather Token?
46:31 <Steven> a nondescript tree, assume medium sized?
46:51 <Steven> and yes, ive seen a huge sized tree.
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48:47 <Mekkis>  (5-footdiameter trunk, 60-foot height, 40-foot top diameter)
48:55 <Mekkis> that would imply 20' reach?
49:03 <Mekkis> or perhaps even 30'
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49:20 * Steven shrugs.
51:23 <Steven> i would imagine if a tree is attacking something it would be treated as an animated objec
01:31 <Steven> damn i make good mac and cheese
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26:17 <s_gmusic> .....
26:23 <s_gmusic> Feather Token (Tree) - 400gp
26:45 <s_gmusic> Grapple-focused build - character investment
26:59 <s_gmusic> the ability to recreate this in-game?
27:01 <s_gmusic> http://www.d20monkey.com/comics/2014-04-15-20140416.png
27:03 <s_gmusic> Priceless.
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42:48 <andrey> would the reach spell metamagic work with the burning gaze spell?
47:16 <andrey> also, touch spells can apply to the caster too right?
47:29 <andrey> if yes, then why does invisibility have two ranges?
58:02 <Avatar> what?
58:25 <Avatar> the layout of spells don't allow for two ranges
58:28 <Avatar> !spell invisibility
58:28 <diebot> Avatar, INVISIBILITY illusion (glamer[]) bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, alchemist 2, summoner 2, inquisitor 2, antipaladin 2, magus 2 1 standard action Range: personal or touch you or a creature or object weighing no more than 100 lbs./level Comp: V, S, M/DF (an eyelash encased in gum arabic) Duration: 1 min./level Save: Will negates (harmless) or
58:29 <diebot> Will negates (harmless, object) SR:yes (harmless) or yes (harmless, object)Source: PFRPG Core
58:29 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/invisibility.html
58:40 <Avatar> except maybe that one
59:03 <Avatar> it's probably so you can have a potion of invisibility
27:08 <Mekkis> !spell unbreakable heart
27:09 <diebot> Mekkis, UNBREAKABLE HEART enchantment (compulsion[mind-affecting]) bard 1, cleric/oracle 1, paladin 1, ranger 1, witch 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)  Comp: V, S Duration: 1 round/level Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: Inner Sea World Guide
27:09 <diebot> The target creature gains a +4 morale bonus on saving throws against mind-affecting effects that rely on negative emotions (such as crushing despair, rage, or fear effects) or that would force him to harm an ally (such as confusion). If the target is already under such an effect when receiving this spell, that effect is suppressed for the duration
27:09 <diebot> of this spell. It does not affect mind-affecting effects based on positive emotions (such as good hope or the inspire courage bard ability). A creature can still be charmed or otherwise magically controlled while under this spell's effects, but if such a creature ever receives a new saving throw against that effect as a result of being ordered to
27:09 <diebot> attempt to harm or otherwise oppose a true ally, he can roll that saving throw twice and take the better result as his actual roll. Calm emotions counters and dispels unbreakable heart.
28:19 <Mekkis> !item haunt siphon 
28:20 <diebot> Mekkis, HAUNT SIPHON [faint necromancy] CL:3 none 400gp, 1lb
28:20 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/haunt_siphon.html
48:59 <Steven> !rand go-to-pfs stay-home
49:00 <dicebot> Steven, random: go-to-pfs
49:10 <Steven> looks like im going to play some pfs in bout half an hour.
50:09 <Yiroep> What scenario?
50:22 <Steven> iunno
50:26 <Steven> i'm just gonna show up
50:30 <Yiroep> Ah.
50:37 <Steven> hopefully they do a high game so i can play my Master Chymist
50:55 <Yiroep> I'm so close to 4 stars but I'm not GMing very much, lol.
51:01 <Yiroep> I keep play, play, play.
51:13 <Steven> I am qualified for 5 star now
51:19 <Steven> i just dont care bout it.
51:27 <Yiroep> I don't feel like I should be 4 stars. I feel like I GM hardly at all. But apparently I have 89 tables worth of credit, lol.
51:44 <Steven> I'll probably get walter to thumbs up it before we go to paizocon.
51:59 <Yiroep> I'd want the star if I qualified for it...for replay puroses.
52:01 <Yiroep> purposes*
52:07 <Yiroep> I'm using my first one this weekend.
52:14 <Steven> Yeah, i found that from 3 to 4 star went real fast.
52:23 <Steven> and 4 to 5 was lightning fast.
52:32 <Yiroep> I felt 2 took forever.
52:36 <Yiroep> The rest were very quick.
53:11 <Yiroep> I actually didn't realize I was 3 stars until it just showed up on my account.
53:16 <Yiroep> I was like "Oh, cool."
55:11 <Steven> i dont go over to moscow and play very often
55:24 <Steven> but when i do I usually play some outrageous character.
55:34 <Steven> Last time was my sassy rage prophet
55:59 <Steven> the time before that it was my Thassilonian necromancer
56:18 <Yiroep> Oh, I was so on Saturday. My wizard finally groups with a ranged martial character. He finally got to use named bullet!
56:18 <Steven> and this time Master Chymist
56:28 <Steven> OH YEAH!
56:29 <Yiroep> It was on the pregen gunslinger, which was kind of disappointing, but it still was awesome.
56:33 <Steven> fuckin love that spell.
56:33 <Yiroep> He prepped it twice.
56:47 <Yiroep> I've been waiting for 3 levels to play with one, LOL.
57:00 <Yiroep> It's like "Nope we're all melee."
57:03 <Yiroep> And I'm like "Dammit."
57:50 <Yiroep> Was fun to at least make the pregen gunslinger do 54 damage.
58:02 <Yiroep> Even if it would be better with a real character.
59:21 <Yiroep> I really like the support/buff role, though.
59:30 <Steven> when i get to level 15 with my inquisitor gunslinger i can do the namedbullet thing
59:40 <Yiroep> I like being like "Muahahaha, I made the efficiency of our team 200% better! Hahaha!"
00:00 <Yiroep> Which is why I play so many oracles and bards.
00:06 <Steven> buffers are the most under appreciated class up at my store, 
00:46 <Steven> everyone wants to be a big fat DPS Murder Hobo
01:40 <Yiroep> Dude, my home game Juju oracle is a beast. She doesn't do jack crap in combat, but man...She gives everyone +5 weapons and armor, has undead everywhere, everyone has freedom of movement and spell immunities going on, ant haul for dispel bait, magic circles everywhere....
01:49 <Yiroep> Impossible to even touch our melee character with her around.
02:53 <Yiroep> She just got level 8 spells. I decided on greater spell immunity, lol.
03:08 <Yiroep> Confusion and insanity have met their end on our party.
03:23 <Steven> well just take all the fun out of the game.
03:30 <Yiroep> LOL!
03:46 <Yiroep> There was a battle where she got completely owned, though.
04:20 <Yiroep> Agile witch commanded undead on both her undead in the surprise round. She had to get rid of them with some heals, then the witch came up to her and slumber hexed + coup de graced in the same round.
04:42 <Yiroep> Was pretty brutal, but was awesome.
04:58 <Steven> i got a 'boon' where when i roll for confusion i add 5 to the result on my Shadow Dancer
05:15 <Yiroep> I got that on one of my characters.
05:19 <Steven> and people were like hey we can get rid of that RIGHT NOW
05:21 <Yiroep> Can't remember where I got it, had to check.
05:26 <Steven> and im like FUCK NO ITS STAYING!
05:35 <Yiroep> have*
06:12 <Yiroep> Oh yeah forgot I do life bubble too...oh wait, no I just let the druid do it.
06:17 <Yiroep> Have to make him do something, right?
06:25 <Yiroep> Other than shape change 24/7.
07:18 <Yiroep> Oh yeah, I go completely nutso in our home game just because I know the GM will (and does) ramp things up for us. Makes it more fun.
07:31 <Yiroep> Fought so many agile things....
09:45 <Yiroep> We got messed up by that pale stranger, though. Those things are sick.
10:48 <Steven> back
11:03 <s_gmusic> lvl 5 Slayer (playtest) then go Living Monolith for the next 7 levels. Y/N?
11:04 <Yiroep> Oh, he even ramped that up I think. I think he made it incorporeal, lol.
11:42 <Steven> you can do whatcha want gmusic
11:47 <Steven> but it sounds fine.
12:07 <Steven> considering we know nothing about the character
12:23 <Steven> The creature i really really like.
12:26 <Yiroep> My favorite combo someone said was Slayer 6/HW 3/Slayer X.
12:35 <Yiroep> 6 is a perfect level to dip out of slayer.
12:46 <Yiroep> (Horizon Walker, btw)
12:55 <Steven> A roper
12:58 <Yiroep> LOL
13:03 <Yiroep> Oh, that damn thing.
13:41 <Steven> we made a mythic version
13:47 <Steven> Its fucking disgusting.
14:05 <Steven> makes the regular roper look like a goblin.
14:15 <Steven> anyways, goin to moscow, peace guys!
21:10 <s_gmusic> ideally, this character would qualify for Living Monolith as soon as possible. pre-reqs are BAB +5, Know (Religion) 2 ranks, Know (History) and (Engineering) 4 ranks, Endurance feat, Iron Will feat, and the Sphinx and Ancient Osiriani Languages.
21:49 <s_gmusic> Slayer's a full BAB class, and I can hit the other pre-reqs up to level 5, meaning I can take Living Monolith starting at 6th level.
23:54 <Yiroep> Well, what do you hope to get from Slayer?
26:43 <s_gmusic> 5 slayer has good BAB, Fort, Ref, sneak attack, favored target +2, and 2 talents drawn from its list or the rogues
27:17 <s_gmusic> the other option was going to be 5 Fighter before going living monolith
27:21 <Yiroep> K. I'll list an alternate I was thinking of. 2 slayer/3 weapon master fighter.
27:34 <s_gmusic> oh?
29:03 <Yiroep> You don't lose on any save, gain 2 on fort, get to have +1 to attack in a weapon group, which is arguably better than increasing favored target to +2, and get to have 2 more feats.
29:10 <Yiroep> You do lose a talent and sneak attack, though.
30:29 <s_gmusic> hm...
32:11 <s_gmusic> sneak attack isn't much of a thing, because I'd only worry about it if flanking, and talents don't really appeal to me
32:30 <Yiroep> In exchange for those 2 things, you get a lot of stuff from fighter.
32:31 <Yiroep> Also...
32:41 <Yiroep> Having weapon training allows you to get Gloves of Dueling.
34:21 <s_gmusic> the appeal of using Slayer levels is that it's a full BAB class with 2 "Good" Save progressions and many skills. the other thing on it I'd use would be the Favored Target ability for a couple more points of damage
34:51 <Yiroep> Right, but weapon master also gives you damage. And 3 levels is great for a weapon master.
35:34 <Yiroep> And with just slayer, you get +4 fort, +4 reflex, and +1 will. With fighter, you get +6 fort, +4 reflex, and +1 will.
35:40 <Yiroep> I mean with both slayer and fighter.
36:32 <s_gmusic> yeah, got that. low will is gonna hurt, but that's true for most characters.
36:51 <Yiroep> I mean, if you're talking fighter and slayer, you've already committed to it. :p
37:05 <s_gmusic> if I could be arsed to clean off my desk, I'd get my other computer out and start playing in herolab
37:08 <s_gmusic> :\
37:09 <Yiroep> It's not gonna be higher than +1 for 5 levels of either of those. :p
38:57 <s_gmusic> true. kinda glad for the Iron Will pre-req feat on that.
39:16 <s_gmusic> also, still haven't chosen a race yet for this build
40:10 <Yiroep> Hrm, I wonder how 1 wizard/1 fighter/4 eldritch knight/X living monolith would be.
40:37 <s_gmusic> Thinking of two-handing a katana, but take the feat for it, too, so I have a slight option in attacking.
40:49 <s_gmusic> why split like that?
41:11 <Yiroep> Well, with the People of the Sands, living monolith now has a caster option.
42:09 <s_gmusic> yup, but I was mainly stumped by the Eldritch Knight levels.
42:15 <Yiroep> To get BAB faster.
43:39 <s_gmusic> 3 fighter/3 magus/x monolith instead?
43:58 <Yiroep> Actually 2 wizard/1 fighter/ 3 EK/ X monolith is better than what I said.
44:10 <Yiroep> Hrm, magus could be cool, too.
44:21 <Yiroep> I would probably go 4 magus, though.
44:24 <s_gmusic> magus isn't full BAB, though
44:55 <s_gmusic> well, yeah
45:03 <s_gmusic> magus 4/ftr 2 would work
45:19 <Yiroep> I don't want another magus, though. :p
45:26 <s_gmusic> ah
45:29 <Yiroep> I like mine but damage isn't my style in Pathfinder.
45:53 <s_gmusic> guessing you'd use tiefling or aasimar for the EK spellcasting pre-req?
45:56 <Yiroep> I like the support/healer/buff role the most, followed by the battlefield controller role.
45:59 <Yiroep> Yeah, I'd have to.
47:09 <Yiroep> I love having people that deal damage in my party, though. :p
48:01 <Yiroep> I have thought about a gunslinger/oracle that gets as many rerolls as possible. I think that would be fun and funny to play.
49:22 <Yiroep> Fortune's Friend was my favorite 3.5 prestige class that I never got to play.
49:29 <s_gmusic> if I'm looking at this all right, then the 1w/1f/3ek/xmonolith build would have spellcasting equivilent to a 10th lvl wizard. EK puts you behind one level before its bumps kick in, then Monolith would put you behind a second level
50:07 <Yiroep> 9th level wizard at 12.
50:23 <Yiroep> Losses: Fighter 1/EK 1/Monolith 1.
50:32 <s_gmusic> ah, forgot about the fighter dip
50:43 <Yiroep> After your first monolith level, you wouldn't have to lose a single spellcaster level ever again.
50:54 <Yiroep> Cause even if you go super high, you can continue EK.
51:37 <s_gmusic> trying to clear off my table... keep finding more things. :|
53:24 <Yiroep> +9 BAB and 5th level spells at level 12.
53:26 <Yiroep> Not so shabby.
55:24 <Yiroep> I had a guy who played a dwarf wizard, though, and just used the Transformation spell when he wanted to melee.
55:27 <Yiroep> He was quite effective.
56:43 <s_gmusic> just picked up a large mass of WoW TCG and MTG cards off my table and dropped them into a box. in doing so, I found some pathfinder minis. :|
58:58 <s_gmusic> i need a bigger box. >.>
00:56 <s_gmusic> starting to wonder if trading cards begin to breed if left alone for too long. there shouldn't be this many. :\
39:46 <Mekkis> !spell gust of wind
39:47 <diebot> Mekkis, GUST OF WIND evocation ([air]) druid 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, magus 2 1 standard action Range: 60 ft.  Comp: V, S Duration: 1 round Save: Fortitude negates SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
39:47 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/gust_of_wind.html
06:13 <Mekkis> !spell searing light
06:14 <diebot> Mekkis, SEARING LIGHT evocation ([]) cleric 3, inquisitor 3 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)  Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
06:15 <diebot> Focusing divine power like a ray of the sun, you project a blast of light from your open palm. You must succeed on a ranged touch attack to strike your target. A creature struck by this ray of light takes 1d8 points of damage per two caster levels (maximum 5d8). An undead creature takes 1d6 points of damage per caster level (maximum 10d6), and an
06:15 <diebot> undead creature particularly vulnerable to bright light takes 1d8 points of damage per caster level (maximum 10d8). A construct or inanimate object takes only 1d6 points of damage per two caster levels (maximum 5d6).
15:11 <Damalon01> hi
24:48 <Mekkis> hi
25:33 <andrey> !spell burning gaze
25:33 <diebot> andrey, BURNING GAZE evocation ([fire]) druid 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, witch 2, magus 2 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S, M/DF (eye of a mundane salamander) Duration: 1 round/level Save: Fortitude negates (see text) SR:yesSource: APG
25:34 <diebot> Your eyes burn like hot coals, allowing you to set objects or foes alight with a glance. As a standard action as long as this spell's effects persist, you may direct your burning gaze against a single creature or object within 30 feet of your location. Targeted creatures must succeed at a Fortitude save or take 1d6 points of fire damage. Unattended
25:34 <diebot> objects do not get a save. Creatures damaged by the spell must make a Reflex save or catch fire. Each round, burning creatures may attempt a Reflex save to quench the flames; failure results in another 1d6 points of fire damage. Flammable items worn by a creature must also save or take the same damage as the creature. If a creature or object is
25:34 <diebot> already on fire, it suffers no additional effects from burning gaze. Note that this spell does not grant an actual gaze attack- foes and allies are not in danger of catching on fire simply by meeting your gaze.
25:52 <andrey> so, rule-bending question: is it compatible with reach spell?
26:17 <andrey> yes the range say touch, buy maybe you could still increase the range of the gaze somehow?
28:33 <andrey> s/youch/personal/
28:43 <andrey> s/youch/touch
33:31 <Avatar> yo
33:38 <Avatar> what'd you play yesterday Damalon01
45:20 <s_gmusic> I would say that you can not use the Reach Spell feat on Burning Gaze. Reach Spell can only affect spells with ranges of Touch, Close, or Medium. Burning Gaze has Range: Personal, which isn't listed as being affected by the feat.
52:26 <andrey> so, no way at all to make it go farther?
05:36 <s_gmusic> there may be a way, but I'm not sure
14:33 <Avatar> unfettered shirt vs cloak of the mountebank
14:43 <Avatar> 10 mins freedom of movement vs 1/day dimension door
14:47 <Avatar> roughly the same price
14:50 <Avatar> pros and cons, discuss!
20:56 <s_gmusic|work> !item cloak of the mountebank
20:59 <diebot> s_gmusic|work, CAPE OF THE MOUNTEBANK [moderate conjuration] CL:9 shoulders 10800gp, 1lb
20:59 <diebot> Once per day on command, this bright red and gold cape allows the wearer to use the magic of the dimension door spell. When he disappears, he leaves behind a cloud of harmless gray smoke, appearing in a similar dramatic fashion at his destination. Source: Ultimate Equipment
21:19 <s_gmusic|work> !item unfettered shirt
21:19 <diebot> s_gmusic|work, UNFETTERED SHIRT [moderate abjuration and transmutation] CL:7 chest 10000gp, 0lb
21:20 <diebot> This loose, often ruffled, shirt is cut in a style designed to avoid hindering its wearer's movement. Once per day on command, the wearer can gain the benefits of freedom of movement for 10 minutes. Source: Ultimate Equipment
22:07 <s_gmusic|work> for the shirt, is that a continuous 10 minutes that can't be divided up or can it be split up in 1 minute increments
23:39 <s_gmusic|work> but also have to think about this: how often are you needing FoM? 1/day d.door seems more useful, especially as an emergency gtfo
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42:24 <Avatar> cloak takes up the valuable shoulder slot though
42:49 <Avatar> are there other ways to dimension door if you don't need it as often
43:01 <Avatar> grapple is the most common reason to use it
43:16 <Avatar> it's not 1 minute increments if it doesn't say so
45:49 <Avatar> does anyone know how mythic works
46:01 <Avatar> I asked about it in the forums and pretty much got dismissed saying "read the book and you'll get it"
47:21 <Mekkis> Not really...
47:43 <Mekkis> I believe it doesn't work well :S
48:00 <Avatar> I don't care about balance
48:08 <Yiroep> What do you mean "How it works?"
48:09 <Avatar> I need to work out character creation
48:12 <Yiroep> That's very general.
48:33 <Avatar> have you played the newer scenarios
48:51 <Yiroep> I've GM seige, but nothing really beyond that with those rules.
48:59 <Yiroep> No, I haven't played the scenario you're talking about. :p
49:07 <Yiroep> So I can't really answer your question.
49:27 <Avatar> I can't believe I didn't get help on the forums
49:34 <Avatar> I guess I won't buy your book then !
49:59 <Avatar> just read it you'll be fine is the worst advice I've ever heard
50:28 <Avatar> well maybe not the worst, but it's bad
50:34 <Mekkis> I got a copy of the book
50:46 <Mekkis> and I pretty much decided to not bother with it
51:00 <Avatar> I am pirating a copy now since that is basically what they asked me to do
51:31 <Mekkis> sounds like a plan
51:39 <Mekkis> need help replacing the watermark?
54:19 <Yiroep> I'm planning to get a party together to do all 3 of those scenarios.
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