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// #d&d — 2014-04-11

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07:06:46 <zerbe> hi
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15:49:58 <s_gmusic> rawrg
15:50:08 <s_gmusic> my phone makes Metroid noises now. :3
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16:49:56 <Avatar> :o)
17:16:02 <s_gmusic> 'ello avatar
17:18:06 <Avatar> s'appenin
17:19:26 <s_gmusic> just a little bit of anime while I debate the barbarian level for my dwarf. friend pointed out I could do a different level instead, such as Cleric or Inquisitor. have a 14 WIS right now.
17:23:17 <Avatar> what do you mean debate the barb level
17:31:09 <s_gmusic> mulling over whether I take fighter (like I have been), take a level in barbarian for silliness, or take a level in something else my current attributes support.
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18:01:22 <Avatar> why would you bother
18:03:05 <s_gmusic> no clue. just looking at options and what would "get me more" at this level (when I level him, he'll be level 10)
18:04:56 <Avatar> no I mean that guy who keeps rejoining
18:05:03 <Avatar> he never gets in anymore
18:05:43 <s_gmusic> oh.
18:08:06 <Brunius> Is it the same AUSSIES_ARE_FAT_BOGANS_AND_DESERVE_TO_DIE guy?
18:08:25 <Brunius> Because I know he was joining every channel he could find and changing his name every time he got banned
18:09:44 <Avatar> he's always from bigpond
18:09:55 <Avatar> and usually has an inappropriate nickname
18:10:31 <Avatar> it must be like a full time job
18:10:40 <Avatar> trying to find ways to evade bans and spew garbage
18:10:59 <s_gmusic> meh
18:11:21 <Brunius> I wouldn't be surprised if he's not all there and can't hold down a job
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18:37:09 <Steven> sup
18:38:51 <Steven> well i'm a bit better composed today. SO... whats goin on.
18:42:16 <s_gmusic> nothing much.
18:42:26 <Steven> well thats the dicks
18:43:20 <s_gmusic> eh. just playing in Hero Lab.
18:43:51 <s_gmusic> gonna try and get to the eye doctor today to see how much they'd charge me for a box of contacts.
18:44:07 <Steven> 104.84
18:44:16 <Steven> plus tax
18:44:30 <s_gmusic> let's hope not. I only have about $40
18:44:41 <Steven> better get to the corner and earn some more
18:45:36 <s_gmusic> nah, just have to sell some of my mtg cards.
18:45:54 <Steven> that will do it.
18:45:59 <Steven> i paid for gencon that way
18:46:04 <s_gmusic> nice
18:46:32 <s_gmusic> best card I got: http://store.tcgplayer.com/magic/modern-masters/tarmogoyf
18:46:42 <Steven> thats worth a penny or two
18:47:33 <s_gmusic> between that and my stack of dual lands that average about $10 each or better, my only difficulty is finding someone to drop cash on them.
18:47:51 <Steven> yeah, well good luck getting it from people.
18:48:25 <Steven> i have a guy that keeps offering me 35% for my collection
18:48:34 <Steven> and i keep telling him to fuck off.
18:48:35 <s_gmusic> what
18:48:56 <Steven> he says "I have to make a profit too!"
18:49:02 <Steven> and its like sure... but not at my expense
18:49:15 <s_gmusic> he can make a profit by giving you 80%, too
18:49:55 <Steven> unlikely, he could probably make a profit off of like 60% at a decent rate.
18:50:42 <Steven> but I could just sell to someplace like ABUgames and make around 70%
18:50:56 <s_gmusic> well the question is just how much profit. could give you 80% for it, turn it around and sell for 90-95% (undercutting most single vendors). still have a profit.
18:51:23 <s_gmusic> so... what classes benefit from having STR, CON, and WIS?
18:51:29 <Steven> clerics
18:51:29 <s_gmusic> aside from Monk
18:51:33 <Steven> druids
18:51:38 <Steven> brawlers
18:52:25 <s_gmusic> can't do brawler. friend suggested doing a Cleric or Inquisitor level instead of barbarian, but I don't see it.
18:52:39 <s_gmusic> current stats are 20/13/18/10/14/8
18:52:53 <s_gmusic> knocks out CHA, INT, and DEX based classes.
18:53:01 <Steven> is this for your fighter/monk?
18:53:09 <s_gmusic> yeah
18:53:15 <Steven> barbarian.
18:53:17 <s_gmusic> barbarian is guaranteed silliness
18:58:40 <Steven> im tryin to decide what movie to watch
18:59:31 <s_gmusic> just seen that if I take the fighter level, I could take the second Dragon Style feat. if I crit, the target is shaken for 1d4+5 rounds
19:00:08 * Steven yawns
19:00:52 <Steven> shaken is really kinda meh unless you have someone in your party that can make use of it.
19:01:40 <Steven> my inquisitor can get 5 rounds of shaken on just about anything, and unless theres a caster around its like... well -2 to hit on his +20 to hit me....
19:02:05 <Steven> but hey if you can make sure theres always a caster around
19:02:06 <s_gmusic> yeah, -2 to hit and saves, so just kind of useful as a set up for someone else
19:02:16 <Steven> it becomes pretty awesome
19:02:57 <s_gmusic> depends on either a crit or successful hit of Stunning Fist. guess which I don't use?
19:03:29 <s_gmusic> could take improved crit feat for my dwarven waraxe
19:03:46 <s_gmusic> 19-20/x3
19:04:14 * Steven shrugs
19:06:09 <s_gmusic> barbar it is. the fighter options are underwhelming and a caster dip isn't useful at this point
19:17:06 <Steven> cant decide what to watch.
19:17:12 <Steven> i'm kinda feelin like a comedy
19:17:52 <s_gmusic> "Here Comes the Boom" perhaps?
19:18:26 <s_gmusic> Gnome barbarian (Armored Hulk) 15/7/20/7/12/9 to start.
19:20:06 <s_gmusic> little pink gnome in full plate
19:23:27 <s_gmusic> gonna save up and get it mithral fullplate and adamantine greatsword because why the F#*@ not?
19:24:10 <Steven> i made the dual wielding barbarian. think i might even play this one.
19:24:15 <Steven> it doesnt seem as rediculously op
19:24:22 <s_gmusic> oh?
19:24:48 <s_gmusic> I plan to GM baby this character for a few levels, so I can just drop it in and see what happens.
19:42:09 <s_gmusic> hm.. as it stands, just to get the armor (mithral fullplate) and weapon (adamantine earthbreaker or Greatsword) I want, this character would need 13540gp and 27 prestige. That's level 5. :\
19:42:47 <Steven> why fullplate?
19:43:03 <s_gmusic> why not?
19:43:08 <Steven> are you trying to specialize in not being hit?
19:43:25 <Steven> because that 7 dex states that you gonna get slapped around a lot.
19:43:42 <s_gmusic> lol yeah.
19:44:14 <s_gmusic> next step down I would want is Mithral Mountain pattern
19:44:27 <Steven> i say embrace your low dex by getting rid of your armor.
19:44:36 <s_gmusic> I'm not wanting crazy AC, but something to last for a long while
19:45:20 <Steven> get reckless abandon
19:45:36 <Steven> see if you can get into single digit AC
19:46:14 <Steven> or go beast mode and go negatives.
19:46:17 <Steven> DO ET!
19:46:21 <s_gmusic> xD
19:48:40 <Steven> my two weapon fighter barb... he dual wields Bastard swords at -4 penalty, so reckless abandon was kinda required lol
19:48:52 <s_gmusic> yeah... I can see why
19:52:11 <Steven> suppose i could do it with katana's and do the crit route.
19:52:25 <Steven> but i like the idea of dual wielding bastard swords.
19:53:10 <s_gmusic> ..... twf barbarian using dual rapiers. build DEX/CON. crit fish with dex to damage.
19:53:50 <Steven> would have to be a urban barbarian.
19:53:56 <s_gmusic> why?
19:54:17 <Steven> urban barb lets you pick which physical stat the bonus goes into.
19:55:12 <Steven> but its only +4 broken up, instead of +4 str and con.
19:55:21 <s_gmusic> yeah, just read it
19:55:40 <Steven> we have a guy at the shop who level dipped so he could qualify for furious finish
19:55:48 <s_gmusic> oh?
19:56:06 <Steven> yeah, vital strike furious finish with a double crossbow.
19:56:13 <s_gmusic> : |
19:56:43 <Steven> he has like 4 classes on that thing.
19:57:15 <Steven> he does a stupid amount of damage.
19:57:44 <s_gmusic> see, now I kind of feel glad I took the barb level on my fighter/monk. hit lvl 11 and take Furious Finish now.
19:58:16 <Steven> yeah, vital strike is really awesome when you have to move in a turn.
19:58:28 <Steven> and if you have extra feats. no reason not to take it.
20:01:11 <Steven> im tinkering with my build.
20:03:11 <Steven> 16/15/16/8/10/10
20:04:22 <Steven> then apply level adjustment, i'd go to three 16s
20:04:25 <s_gmusic> on halfling or something else?
20:04:34 <Steven> half-orc.
20:06:02 <Steven> i love having GM credit baby's at levels >1
20:14:23 <Steven> at 8th level i'll have enough dex that i wont have to buy a belt to get greater two weapon fighting at 11th level
20:14:46 <Steven> just buy the serpentskin tunic thing
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20:50:30 <Steven> buying equipment
21:00:12 <Steven> alrighty
21:00:23 <Steven> so +7/+7 attacks for 1d10+11/1d10+6
21:00:53 <Steven> and then as soon as i can afford it gonna get Furious on both weapons which bumps those numbers all by 2
21:01:14 <Steven> and i'd prolly have another attack at a -5
21:01:45 <Steven> so another 1d10+11
21:02:08 <Steven> and then as we get up higher in levels it just naturally gets better and better.
21:02:32 <Steven> once we get to level 11 it will be like 6 attacks a round.
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21:03:50 <Steven> at 9th level i'd be able to get double slie
21:03:51 <Steven> slice
21:04:22 <Steven> so my offhand would be a -3 damage from main hand.
21:05:32 <Steven> so +12/12/7/7
21:06:17 <Steven> for 1d10+16 main 1d10+13 offhand.
21:06:50 <Steven> and of course the main benefit is I get to say i'm dual wielding with bastard swords
21:07:17 <s_gmusic> why not go katana after all?
21:08:09 <Steven> meh, its not as cool as bastard swords
21:08:57 <s_gmusic> eh, your choice. I still like to see if I can cause arguments at pathfinder tables by saying katanas are nothing but masterwork bastard swords (3.0E rules)
21:11:02 <s_gmusic> nap tiemz
21:14:56 <Steven> yeah, they arent anymore though they dropped 1 damage size and have an expanded crit range by 1
22:04:12 <Mekkis> !item serpentskin tunic
22:04:14 <diebot> Mekkis, SNAKESKIN TUNIC [moderate abjuration and transmutation] CL:8 chest 8000gp, 2lb
22:04:14 <diebot> A snakeskin tunic is a tight, form-fitting shirt crafted from the scales of a giant snake. When worn, it grants a +1 armor bonus to AC, a +2 enhancement bonus to Dexterity, and a +2 resistance bonus on saving throws against poison. Source: Ultimate Equipment
22:50:43 <Steven> its a pretty decent item
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23:32:50 <Ulzef> hey mekkis here?
23:34:17 <Avatar> yep
23:34:23 <Avatar> well
23:34:24 <Avatar> 30 mins ago
23:34:41 <Ulzef> ah kk making sure his game is still ago for tomorrow
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23:50:02 <Ulzef> .... kicked my power out
23:58:10 <Avatar> nice
23:58:31 <Brunius> I did that to an entire block of computer in primary school