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22:13 <Steven> alrighty
22:15 <Steven> character done
22:43 <Steven> I do 7 more points of damage over what my kingmaker character does at the same level
23:04 <Steven> just because i didnt 'waste' 5 points on int.
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27:36 <Mekkis> Steven, better to have a colossal mount
41:52 <Mekkis> !item dire collar
41:55 <diebot> Mekkis, SLAVE COLLAR [moderate divination] CL:9 neck 25000gp, 1lb
41:55 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/slave_collar.html
10:47 <Steven> super fucking bored.
18:39 <Mekkis> waste?
18:47 <Mekkis> 14 int is hardly ever a bad thing
01:12 <Avatar> did you update your list mekkis
01:25 <Avatar> or do you not want to play
09:41 <Steven> I've seen an an ankylosaurus do 16d8 damage
11:18 <Steven> im unimpressed with colossal sized creatures.
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33:51 <Steven> it is a waste if all you are going to be doing is murdering thing.
38:52 <Avatar> might aim to run it on saturday
39:11 <Avatar> 3rd
39:41 <Steven> no not the 3rd... its a.... well the 3rd is good.
40:50 <Steven> i think you can tell im bored.  I got tired of playing dragon age... stupid puzzle piece that i cant find.
41:02 <Avatar> mate if you are bored, find me some sweet gunslinger feats
41:20 <Avatar> nothing that will increase damage
41:26 <Steven> blah... thats easy.
41:42 <Avatar> ok, go
41:48 <Steven> race
41:51 <Steven> level
41:56 <Steven> weapon of choice
42:11 <Avatar> human, gunslinger 10/inquisitor 2, musket
42:24 <Steven> why only inquisitor 2?
42:32 <Steven> why not inquisitor 5 so you get bane?
42:32 <Avatar> spellbreaker 2
42:40 <Avatar> well I'm not there yet
43:00 <Avatar> I need 1 or 2 new feats, not levels
43:16 <Avatar> I'm getting a decoy ring which should solve the AoO problem
43:26 <Steven> meh....
50:48 <Avatar> Brunius_: available on the 3rd?
50:55 <Brunius_> Should be
51:01 <Avatar> alright I'll put it up
51:55 <Steven> alright back
52:20 <Steven> so feats for a ranged character.
52:29 <Steven> that wont up his damage
52:45 <Steven> toughness is a solid choice.
53:45 <Steven> Nimble Moves is a damn good feat if you find yourself needing to 5ft step away in difficult terrain
54:08 <Steven> quickdraw is nice if your primary weapon jams, just get your secondary out right quick.
54:47 <Avatar> already have toughness
55:01 <Avatar> don't have a secondary weapon
55:37 <Steven> okay... well first... get a secondary weapon.
56:29 <Steven> maybe its not big down in Australia... but man do we love sundering/disarming ranged characters.
56:35 <Steven> up here in washington
59:57 <Avatar> guns are expensive man
00:39 <Steven> yeah... but its better to spend 6k gold then to have an enemy sunder/disarm you and you do nothing for the rest of the scenario.
01:49 <Steven> 3800g to keep you viable(if you buy a musket)
02:07 <Avatar> what's the deal with sunder
02:13 <Avatar> does that actually destroy your weapon in PFS
02:19 <Avatar> or just give it the broken condition
02:50 <Steven> gives it the broken condition if it does 50% of its HP, gives destroyed if more.
02:57 <Steven> well if it does 100%
03:04 <Avatar> what's the hp of a weapon
03:08 <Steven> then it takes a whole lot of make wholes.
05:13 <Steven> according to this chart a projectile weapon has hardness 5 and 5 hitpoints.
05:54 <Steven> so a magic firearm would have 7 hardness and 15hp
08:57 <Avatar> dunno, I think sunder is a bit of a jerk move unless the tactics explicitly state it
09:10 <Avatar> or at least the guy will want to have some sunder feats
09:23 <Avatar> is inner sea gods worth the ridiculously high price?
09:37 <Steven> it has some pretty awesome things in it if you worship a diety
09:48 <Brunius_> I had someone offer to loan it to me
09:49 <Steven> like Deific Obedience for Irori worshipers.
09:53 <Brunius_> Good god it is expensive
10:22 <Steven> 1 hr a day you practice with some hand to hand combat, read a book you've never read before, meditate.
10:26 <Steven> +4 on kn skills.
10:39 <Steven> all of them.
10:40 <Avatar> besmara?
10:54 <Steven> not listed.
10:59 <Avatar> I do have a paladin worshipping iomedae and a cleric worshipping erastil
11:35 <Steven> http://www.archivesofnethys.com/SourceDisplay.aspx?FixedSource=Inner%20Sea%20Gods
12:00 <Steven> also has one of the most powerful prestige classes ever.
12:36 <Steven> evangalist gets the Aligned Class ability.
12:44 <Avatar> what's an obedience
13:00 <Steven> which is basically you designate a class you have taken levels in.
13:22 <Steven> and you get all the features of that class for every level you take in evangalist.
14:02 <Steven> so if you're a druid 5/evangalist 5 you get all the features of a druid up to level 9, plus the 5 levels of evangalist stuff.
14:06 <Steven> that includes spellcasting
14:18 <Steven> increases to effective levels of domains
14:28 <Steven> the whole shabang
15:11 <Avatar> the only reason I'm actually asking if the book is worth it is because there's a coupon code that gives you 10% off your order
15:23 <Avatar> but that only discounts the $28 book to $25.20
15:32 <Steven> it also works with prestige classes as far as i know.
15:51 <Avatar> but if it has some really amazing options in it like ultimate campaign, it's still better than $28
16:49 <Steven> so if you were say an rogue5/shadow dancer1/evangalist3 w/ the aligned class of shadow dancer. you would effectively be a rogue 5/shadow dancer 3/evangalist3 in terms of the levels of your abilities.
16:57 <Steven> its pretty crazy.
17:17 <Mekkis> seems wrong
18:35 <Steven> totes legal mang.
18:42 <Steven> i think its pretty stupid.
18:59 <Steven> aligned class imo shouldnt be allowed with prestige classes.
19:20 <Mekkis> that's what I meant by 'wrong'
21:00 <Steven> i was agreeing with you.  its legal and stupid.
22:29 <Avatar> thicket channel is probably the weirdest feat ever
22:36 <Avatar> channel positive energy to make plants grow
22:44 <Steven> short version avatar is that yes inner sea gods is worth the purchase.
23:02 <Avatar> not for evangelist man
23:15 <Mekkis> Avatar, at the current exchange rate, it's not worth the purchase
23:16 <Steven> no for the other stuff
23:42 <Steven> like this item
23:44 <Steven> http://www.archivesofnethys.com/MagicWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Quarterstaff%20of%20Entwined%20Serpents
24:00 <Avatar> do you think the exchange rate will get better or worse
24:05 <Steven> at will ability of magic missile CL3
24:31 <Mekkis> No idea: If I knew that, I'd be really rich.
25:02 <Mekkis> Wow. Sounds like a great thing for Riddywipple to carry :)
25:12 <Steven> YUP!
25:17 <Avatar> that is a pretty sweet staff
25:29 <Avatar> my magic missile wizard would like that
25:36 <Mekkis> My Riddywipple already has another staff...
25:43 <Steven> unlimited magic missiles and a bonus feat of Eschew Materials.
26:02 <Steven> downside...
26:02 <Avatar> can you apply metamagic to those missiles
26:05 <Steven> its not free.
26:10 <Mekkis> no
26:27 <Avatar> that changes everything !
27:19 <Steven> oh damn... we gonna play Legacy of fire... i need to alter my character.
27:45 <Steven> my character is the only person in the group that has a problem with a necromancer that a person is playing.
28:33 <Steven> so we flipped a coin and I'm going to alter my character so that the group wont have to deal with that.
29:14 <Steven> I think i'll just change their religion.
29:35 <Steven> from pharasma to.....
29:42 <Steven> hmmmmm Irori is strong.
31:20 <Steven> yeah, im just gonna go with irori.
32:41 <Steven> there we go.
33:27 <Mekkis> Rules question: if a hunter gives a skirmisher trick to his animal companion, what is the per-day limit for the animal companion to use them?
33:59 <Steven> iunno... forum.
35:55 <Steven> how doe a hunter get sskirmisher tricks anyways?
36:03 <Steven> multiclassa?
37:47 <Avatar> there are some sexy spells in that book
38:02 <Avatar> pity they're all deity specific
38:29 <Mekkis> Summoner/Evangelist seems really wrong
39:09 <Steven> yup, evangelist pretty strong class.
40:18 <Avatar> !spell weapons against evil
40:18 <diebot> Avatar, WEAPONS AGAINST EVIL transmutation ([]) cleric/oracle 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one weapon/level, no two of which can be more than 20 ft. apart Comp: V, DF Duration: 1 round/level Save: Fortitude negates (harmless, object) SR:yes (harmless, object)Source: Inner Sea Gods
40:18 <diebot> Each weapon this spell affects each shines with pale light that dimly illuminates a 5-foot square. These weapons also ignore the DR of evil creatures that have DR 5 or lower, as long as the damage reduction is not DR/epic.
40:29 <Avatar> that's crazy
40:48 <Steven> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rdf2?Hunter-AC-gaining-Skirmisher-Tricks#1
40:50 <Avatar> who needs smite evil
41:31 <Avatar> Brunius: does Bairaq like iomedae?
41:36 <Brunius> Abadar
42:16 <Mekkis> Bairaq is fine with the Spirit of Freedom.
42:19 <Brunius> Abadar cultivates alliances with some deities, Iomedae is one of them
42:34 <Brunius> Bairaq recognises that as a part of the society, he is bound to work with his companions
42:37 <Avatar> what does that mean
43:00 <Avatar> flavour?
43:24 <Mekkis> Steven: hehe
43:32 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rdsc?Hunters-Animal-Companion-and-Hunters-Tricks
43:36 <Mekkis> You and 156 others marked this as FAQ candidate.11 people marked this as a favorite.
44:48 <Steven> seems like a lot of people want to knwo.
45:59 <Avatar> I don't really understand how a rules question with 100+ faqs on it can sit for months
46:00 <Mekkis> As a GM, how would you rule it?
48:55 <Steven> i dunno, i doubt i would really care very much unless it was a serious disruption to the game.
49:12 <Avatar> that's actually a level 1 hunter ability and nobody knows how it works?
49:20 <Avatar> so does nobody have a hunter yet?
49:22 <Steven> like if he was trying to use sic em to get himself another attack... i'd tell him no.
49:29 <Steven> I have a hunter.
49:53 <Steven> he is nebulous because i made him as a level 1 but he now has 8 levels of gm credit.
50:50 <Avatar> I can't see the text about the tricks?
51:20 <Steven> Duel archetype Verminious/Divine Hunter.  I will have the smartest scorpion ever!
52:05 <Steven> well animal companion scorpion
52:22 <Steven> something like 7 int.
58:21 <Avatar> rules question timez
58:41 <Avatar> can you use a class feature that assists an attack, such as smite evil or pistol whip during an AoO?
06:04 <Avatar> I think I am going to buy a decoy ring instead of mobility and deft shootist
06:22 <Avatar> that should also solve the issue of AoOs in melee
06:37 <Avatar> and I'll be able to retrain for 1 or 2 different feats, maybe something more fun
28:17 <Avatar> I really have to pick a scenario to run today
31:15 <Avatar> maybe words of the ancients?
51:09 <Mekkis> !spell chameleon stride
51:19 <diebot> Mekkis, CHAMELEON STRIDE illusion (glamer[]) ranger 2 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S, DF Duration: 1 minute/level Save:  SR:Source: APG
51:19 <diebot> You fade into the background, and while you are not truly invisible, you are hard to pinpoint due to your translucent state. While under the effects of this spell, you gain a +4 bonus on Stealth checks and have concealment from creatures more than 5 feet away (attacks have a 20% miss chance).
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25:21 <Mekkis> Avatar, where you running it?
35:40 <Avatar> what do you mean where
35:47 <Avatar> between CA or roll20?
37:58 <Steven> hmmm... what to get what to get.
39:22 <Mekkis> Are you even running it online?
39:49 <Avatar> yeah
40:07 <Avatar> that scenario is one of the few you and brunius haven't played
40:12 <Avatar> both haven't played
40:22 <Avatar> if you've got another preference, check the list and tell me what you want
40:23 <Brunius_> what is
40:28 <Avatar> words of the ancients
40:30 <Avatar> 7-11
40:34 <Mekkis> I might have played it
40:43 <Avatar> update your list
42:29 <Steven> I've played it.
59:38 <Avatar> you've played everything
14:45 <Brunius_> http://www.gfycat.com/DopeyBabyishBobwhite
21:56 <Steven> thats not true avatar.
22:06 <Steven> i have only played like 2 season 6 scenarios
31:41 <Avatar> really
32:07 <Steven> yup
32:20 <Steven> i saved them all up so i could play every slot at the local Winterfest convention
32:34 <Steven> and then i didnt get to play because new people came in and filled up the tables.
32:47 <Avatar> that doesn't count then !
32:55 <Avatar> oh, it's already happened ?
32:56 <Steven> being the total fucking baller VL that i am, i let them have my seat.
33:10 <Avatar> I wouldn't let anyone have my seat
33:11 <Avatar> it's mine
33:30 <Avatar> I've only played trial by machine in 6
33:30 <Steven> so they could play and come back for more pfs.
33:38 <Avatar> brunius needs a 5-9 or 7-11
34:19 <Steven> valley of veiled flame is supposed to be awesome as fuck.
34:38 <Avatar> I actually really haven't kept up with season 6
34:58 <Steven> i've played by way of bloodcove and silver mount collection
35:25 <Steven> with my +26 while moving full speed stealth character.
36:39 <Steven> i single handedly did some things it was supposed to take an entire group to do
36:52 <Steven> it was very much a watch me do this type of situation.
37:35 <Steven> was the only reason we succeeded though, because we had two no bluff, no stealth, 7 int barbarians with us.
37:48 <Steven> 100% murder hobos.
38:18 <Steven> and then we did bonekeep 2.
38:23 <Steven> and nothing could see me.
38:37 <Avatar> mate that is a red flag
38:55 <Avatar> when you are saying "I single handedly did some things it was supposed to take an entire group to do", you're doing something wrong
39:18 <Steven> word.
39:23 <Avatar> I thought you said something abou being a total baller VL
39:25 <Steven> dat stealth character.
39:34 <Steven> but im not a rogue.
39:50 <Steven> Lorewarden fighter... so good.
40:23 <Steven> and you can be a good VL and still have broken as fuck characters mang.
40:34 <Steven> in balance my character only does 1d4+2 damage.
41:05 <Steven> but now that he is level 8... i have a shadow.
41:08 <Steven> and butterfly sting
41:17 <Avatar> is there a wayfinder that does mage hand
41:27 <Steven> 2d6str damage...
42:28 <Steven> mebe in the pathfinder society primer
43:25 <Avatar> blerg, 4pp
43:47 <Steven> that aint bad.
44:13 <Steven> I think im going to remake my kingmaker character for pfs play.
44:35 <Avatar> it's pretty bad at level 4
44:54 <Steven> nah thats cheap as fuck.
46:23 <Steven> so my shadow dancer named his shadow seelah after the paladin that got murdered in bonekeep... 
49:01 <Steven> well thats just crazy
49:02 <Steven> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh5l?Online-play-and-custom-Chronicle-sheets
49:37 <Steven> im looking to see if there is a game i can play.
50:24 <Avatar> that isn't news
50:26 <Steven> nope... no games postd.
50:30 <Steven> sad pandas.
50:46 <Brunius_> custom chronicle sheets have been banned since like, forever
51:24 <Steven> yeah, i just never noticed the thread before now.
57:04 <Steven> so what scenarios in season 6 have you played?
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33:47 <Steven> alrighty
33:49 <Steven> character done
34:17 <Steven> I do 7 more points of damage over what my kingmaker character does at the same level
34:38 <Steven> just because i didnt 'waste' 5 points on int.
22:21 <Steven> super fucking bored.
30:13 <Mekkis> waste?
30:20 <Mekkis> 14 int is hardly ever a bad thing
12:46 <Avatar> did you update your list mekkis
12:58 <Avatar> or do you not want to play
45:25 <Steven> it is a waste if all you are going to be doing is murdering thing.
50:26 <Avatar> might aim to run it on saturday
50:45 <Avatar> 3rd
51:15 <Steven> no not the 3rd... its a.... well the 3rd is good.
52:23 <Steven> i think you can tell im bored.  I got tired of playing dragon age... stupid puzzle piece that i cant find.
52:36 <Avatar> mate if you are bored, find me some sweet gunslinger feats
52:53 <Avatar> nothing that will increase damage
53:00 <Steven> blah... thats easy.
53:16 <Avatar> ok, go
53:21 <Steven> race
53:25 <Steven> level
53:30 <Steven> weapon of choice
53:45 <Avatar> human, gunslinger 10/inquisitor 2, musket
53:57 <Steven> why only inquisitor 2?
54:06 <Steven> why not inquisitor 5 so you get bane?
54:06 <Avatar> spellbreaker 2
54:14 <Avatar> well I'm not there yet
54:34 <Avatar> I need 1 or 2 new feats, not levels
54:50 <Avatar> I'm getting a decoy ring which should solve the AoO problem
54:59 <Steven> meh....
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02:22 <Avatar> Brunius_: available on the 3rd?
02:28 <Brunius_> Should be
02:35 <Avatar> alright I'll put it up
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03:29 <Steven> alright back
03:54 <Steven> so feats for a ranged character.
04:03 <Steven> that wont up his damage
04:19 <Steven> toughness is a solid choice.
05:19 <Steven> Nimble Moves is a damn good feat if you find yourself needing to 5ft step away in difficult terrain
05:42 <Steven> quickdraw is nice if your primary weapon jams, just get your secondary out right quick.
06:20 <Avatar> already have toughness
06:34 <Avatar> don't have a secondary weapon
07:10 <Steven> okay... well first... get a secondary weapon.
08:03 <Steven> maybe its not big down in Australia... but man do we love sundering/disarming ranged characters.
08:08 <Steven> up here in washington
11:30 <Avatar> guns are expensive man
12:13 <Steven> yeah... but its better to spend 6k gold then to have an enemy sunder/disarm you and you do nothing for the rest of the scenario.
13:22 <Steven> 3800g to keep you viable(if you buy a musket)
13:40 <Avatar> what's the deal with sunder
13:47 <Avatar> does that actually destroy your weapon in PFS
13:53 <Avatar> or just give it the broken condition
14:23 <Steven> gives it the broken condition if it does 50% of its HP, gives destroyed if more.
14:30 <Steven> well if it does 100%
14:38 <Avatar> what's the hp of a weapon
14:41 <Steven> then it takes a whole lot of make wholes.
16:47 <Steven> according to this chart a projectile weapon has hardness 5 and 5 hitpoints.
17:27 <Steven> so a magic firearm would have 7 hardness and 15hp
20:30 <Avatar> dunno, I think sunder is a bit of a jerk move unless the tactics explicitly state it
20:44 <Avatar> or at least the guy will want to have some sunder feats
20:57 <Avatar> is inner sea gods worth the ridiculously high price?
21:11 <Steven> it has some pretty awesome things in it if you worship a diety
21:22 <Brunius_> I had someone offer to loan it to me
21:22 <Steven> like Deific Obedience for Irori worshipers.
21:27 <Brunius_> Good god it is expensive
21:56 <Steven> 1 hr a day you practice with some hand to hand combat, read a book you've never read before, meditate.
22:00 <Steven> +4 on kn skills.
22:12 <Steven> all of them.
22:13 <Avatar> besmara?
22:27 <Steven> not listed.
22:33 <Avatar> I do have a paladin worshipping iomedae and a cleric worshipping erastil
23:09 <Steven> http://www.archivesofnethys.com/SourceDisplay.aspx?FixedSource=Inner%20Sea%20Gods
23:34 <Steven> also has one of the most powerful prestige classes ever.
24:10 <Steven> evangalist gets the Aligned Class ability.
24:18 <Avatar> what's an obedience
24:33 <Steven> which is basically you designate a class you have taken levels in.
24:56 <Steven> and you get all the features of that class for every level you take in evangalist.
25:36 <Steven> so if you're a druid 5/evangalist 5 you get all the features of a druid up to level 9, plus the 5 levels of evangalist stuff.
25:40 <Steven> that includes spellcasting
25:52 <Steven> increases to effective levels of domains
26:02 <Steven> the whole shabang
26:44 <Avatar> the only reason I'm actually asking if the book is worth it is because there's a coupon code that gives you 10% off your order
26:57 <Avatar> but that only discounts the $28 book to $25.20
27:06 <Steven> it also works with prestige classes as far as i know.
27:25 <Avatar> but if it has some really amazing options in it like ultimate campaign, it's still better than $28
28:22 <Steven> so if you were say an rogue5/shadow dancer1/evangalist3 w/ the aligned class of shadow dancer. you would effectively be a rogue 5/shadow dancer 3/evangalist3 in terms of the levels of your abilities.
28:31 <Steven> its pretty crazy.
28:51 <Mekkis> seems wrong
30:09 <Steven> totes legal mang.
30:16 <Steven> i think its pretty stupid.
30:32 <Steven> aligned class imo shouldnt be allowed with prestige classes.
30:53 <Mekkis> that's what I meant by 'wrong'
32:34 <Steven> i was agreeing with you.  its legal and stupid.
34:02 <Avatar> thicket channel is probably the weirdest feat ever
34:10 <Avatar> channel positive energy to make plants grow
34:18 <Steven> short version avatar is that yes inner sea gods is worth the purchase.
34:35 <Avatar> not for evangelist man
34:48 <Mekkis> Avatar, at the current exchange rate, it's not worth the purchase
34:50 <Steven> no for the other stuff
35:16 <Steven> like this item
35:17 <Steven> http://www.archivesofnethys.com/MagicWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Quarterstaff%20of%20Entwined%20Serpents
35:33 <Avatar> do you think the exchange rate will get better or worse
35:39 <Steven> at will ability of magic missile CL3
36:05 <Mekkis> No idea: If I knew that, I'd be really rich.
36:36 <Mekkis> Wow. Sounds like a great thing for Riddywipple to carry :)
36:45 <Steven> YUP!
36:50 <Avatar> that is a pretty sweet staff
37:03 <Avatar> my magic missile wizard would like that
37:09 <Mekkis> My Riddywipple already has another staff...
37:16 <Steven> unlimited magic missiles and a bonus feat of Eschew Materials.
37:36 <Steven> downside...
37:36 <Avatar> can you apply metamagic to those missiles
37:39 <Steven> its not free.
37:44 <Mekkis> no
38:01 <Avatar> that changes everything !
38:52 <Steven> oh damn... we gonna play Legacy of fire... i need to alter my character.
39:19 <Steven> my character is the only person in the group that has a problem with a necromancer that a person is playing.
40:06 <Steven> so we flipped a coin and I'm going to alter my character so that the group wont have to deal with that.
40:47 <Steven> I think i'll just change their religion.
41:08 <Steven> from pharasma to.....
41:16 <Steven> hmmmmm Irori is strong.
42:53 <Steven> yeah, im just gonna go with irori.
44:15 <Steven> there we go.
45:00 <Mekkis> Rules question: if a hunter gives a skirmisher trick to his animal companion, what is the per-day limit for the animal companion to use them?
45:33 <Steven> iunno... forum.
48:44 <Mekkis> Summoner/Evangelist seems really wrong
51:48 <Steven> how doe a hunter get sskirmisher tricks anyways?
51:49 <Steven> multiclassa?
51:49 <Avatar> there are some sexy spells in that book
51:49 <Avatar> pity they're all deity specific
51:49 <Steven> yup, evangelist pretty strong class.
51:51 <Avatar> !spell weapons against evil
51:52 <diebot> Avatar, WEAPONS AGAINST EVIL transmutation ([]) cleric/oracle 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one weapon/level, no two of which can be more than 20 ft. apart Comp: V, DF Duration: 1 round/level Save: Fortitude negates (harmless, object) SR:yes (harmless, object)Source: Inner Sea Gods
51:52 <diebot> Each weapon this spell affects each shines with pale light that dimly illuminates a 5-foot square. These weapons also ignore the DR of evil creatures that have DR 5 or lower, as long as the damage reduction is not DR/epic.
52:02 <Avatar> that's crazy
52:08 Brunius_ is now known as Brunius
52:22 <Steven> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rdf2?Hunter-AC-gaining-Skirmisher-Tricks#1
52:24 <Avatar> who needs smite evil
53:04 <Avatar> Brunius: does Bairaq like iomedae?
53:10 <Brunius> Abadar
53:49 <Mekkis> Bairaq is fine with the Spirit of Freedom.
53:53 <Brunius> Abadar cultivates alliances with some deities, Iomedae is one of them
54:07 <Brunius> Bairaq recognises that as a part of the society, he is bound to work with his companions
54:11 <Avatar> what does that mean
54:34 <Avatar> flavour?
54:57 <Mekkis> Steven: hehe
55:05 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rdsc?Hunters-Animal-Companion-and-Hunters-Tricks
55:09 <Mekkis> You and 156 others marked this as FAQ candidate.11 people marked this as a favorite.
56:22 <Steven> seems like a lot of people want to knwo.
57:34 <Mekkis> As a GM, how would you rule it?
57:49 <Mekkis> a) Unlimited usage, because tricks have no limit to their usage
58:32 <Mekkis> b) Usage limit of half animal companions HD plus their wisdom modifier, treating animal HD as ranger levels.
59:05 <Mekkis> c) Usage limit of half hunter level plus hunter's wisdom modifier, treating the hunter as the limiting factor.
59:35 <Mekkis> d) Usage limit of animal companion's wisdom modifier, because the animal companion has no ranger levels.
59:36 <Mekkis> ???
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07:12 <Mekkis> As a GM, how would you rule it?
07:14 <Mekkis> a) Unlimited usage, because tricks have no limit to their usage
07:17 <Mekkis> b) Usage limit of half animal companions HD plus their wisdom modifier, treating animal HD as ranger levels.
07:21 <Mekkis> c) Usage limit of half hunter level plus hunter's wisdom modifier, treating the hunter as the limiting factor.
07:24 <Mekkis> d) Usage limit of animal companion's wisdom modifier, because the animal companion has no ranger levels.
07:26 <Mekkis> ???
09:22 <Steven> im not familiar with the mechanic and i dont really wanna dive into it mang.  I linked a forum post... didnt i do my part?
13:24 <Mekkis> Avatar, A hunter may teach her companion hunter's tricks from the skirmisher ranger archetype (Pathfinder RPG Advanced Player's Guide) instead of standard tricks.
13:34 <Mekkis> p26 of ACG
13:46 <Mekkis> right at the end
14:10 <Avatar> I don't think it's unlimited use
14:59 <Mekkis> What would you think the limitation would be?
15:11 <Avatar> actually maybe it is
16:52 <Avatar> aren't these really powerful tricks
17:00 <Mekkis> yes!
17:04 <Avatar> they don't seem like your standard 'attack, fetch, guard'
17:45 <Mekkis> nope, they're what the Skirmisher ranger is sacrificing their spellcasting ability for!
18:02 <Avatar> I'd say the limiting factor is the hunter's wisdom mod
18:11 <Avatar> for simplicity's sake, until they rule it differently
18:37 <Avatar> if there's any abuse to be had there, it can't be much
18:58 <Avatar> it could really be read using any of those
19:25 <Mekkis> I think c is the one that doesn't mesh with RAW.
19:47 <Mekkis> Although going strictly RAW, I think d) is the closest
19:52 <Avatar> well it is a class from the ACG that hasn't had a FAQ since august
19:59 <Mekkis> October.
20:21 <Avatar> that thread is august 16
20:35 <Mekkis> the ACG was FAQed in October.
23:14 <Avatar> this FAQ?
23:41 <Mekkis> that thread has a shitton of FAQ requests. Not sure where the FAQ is?
23:53 <Avatar> I don't care if they put out a FAQ in october if the thread started in august
24:00 <Avatar> that worsens it
24:10 <Avatar> if anything that makes me more inclined to make it unlimited uses per day
24:23 <Avatar> until I find in-game that it starts looking cheesery
24:31 <Mekkis> oh, it is
24:39 <Avatar> have you seen it
24:46 <Mekkis> yes
24:52 <Mekkis> Someone was spamming:
24:53 <Mekkis>    Vengeance Strike (Ex): The ranger can use this trick as an
24:53 <Mekkis> immediate action when an enemy adjacent to him hits an
24:53 <Mekkis> ally with a melee or ranged attack. The ranger can make
24:53 <Mekkis> a single melee attack at his highest base attack bonus
24:53 <Mekkis> against the creature who attacked his ally.
25:33 <Avatar> yeah okay, uses/day
29:46 <Mekkis> animal companions generally start with 12 wisdom. So it'd be 1/day...
32:09 <Avatar> or 5/day, or unlimited
32:57 <Avatar> the thing is, if they FAQ it later and say actually it's 1/day, then the high level hunter now has to deal with that for the rest of his career
33:37 <Avatar> if he can retrain, then hopefully he enjoyed his time as a hunter while it lasted
33:40 <Avatar> everybody wins
43:58 Mort ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
44:24 <Mort> God
44:28 <Mort> Im done heresy of man
44:29 <Mort> any sign ups?
44:39 <Mort> pls send your tokens ot my email
44:45 <Mort> [email protected]
44:54 <Mort> mekkis
45:25 <Avatar> I think I'm bringing my archaeologist
45:43 <Mort> I should get a god damn free spellfocus (illusion) feat on one of my chars
45:45 <Mort> for that effort :p
45:47 * Mort snickers
45:52 <Mort> Anwyay pls send your token
45:58 <Mort> to my email add so I can put it in campaign
46:05 <Mort> I can give the link to the campaign now if you want..
46:15 <Mort> but I havent uploaded all te maps, just finished foolin around with em
46:39 * Mort wipes sweat off her brow after all that illusion work..
47:45 <Mort> how many people interseted avatar
47:49 <Mort> I just need 3 peeps to run.
48:12 <Mort> maybe I should go create confirmation as well
48:54 <Avatar> dunno, check the schedule page
48:58 <Mort> no one
49:00 <Mort> its 6 seats open
49:08 <Avatar> are you looking at the right game
49:08 <Mort> so Im thinking people got tooo lazy to sign up or something?
49:16 <Mort> it says 6 seats open no?
49:25 <Avatar> give me the URL you're looking at
49:33 <Mort> oh lol
49:34 <Mort> ok me blur
49:38 <Mort> hey I didnt kow you had an 8 shaman
49:39 <Mort> thats fast
49:43 <Brunius> Mooooort
49:43 <Mort> btw k we hve 3 people
49:49 <Mort> can you help me get em to send minis to me?
49:50 <Avatar> it's a retrained druid that isn't retrained yet
49:53 <Mort> I created heresy of man part 3
50:06 * Mort decides to take a nap in the channel. its tiring
50:12 * Mort has a swishy tail
50:13 <Brunius> what's this token thing
50:16 * Mort wags her tail about
50:18 <Brunius> can't I just have a colour like in the old days
50:23 <Mort> some picture to represent your character
50:25 <Mort> you dont have to
50:27 <Mort> we doing it on roll 20
50:30 <Mort> sorry I cant use CA
50:30 <Avatar> you can open paint and just do a blue square
50:35 <Mort> serioulsy?
50:42 <Mort> you have the choice to show how your char looks like
50:45 <Mort> and you want blue squares?
50:49 <Mort> well if thats what ye want...
50:52 <Brunius> nonono
50:56 <Avatar> mort RELAX
51:02 * Mort is excitable
51:03 <Brunius> I want an orange square
51:04 <Brunius> geez
51:07 * Mort tail twitches violently
51:08 <Brunius> orange is my colour yo
51:12 <Mort> Ok Bru
51:17 <Mort> Whats your characters initials
51:21 <Mort> you guys are weiiirrrdddd
51:30 <Brunius> Maybe I'll rifle through pictures on ~~the internet~~
51:33 <Avatar> just sent you mine on skype
51:35 <Mort> yeah
51:37 <Mort> what?
51:42 <Mort> oh fine
51:52 <Avatar> do you have a roll20 link yet
51:59 <Mort> I do
52:01 <Mort> gimme abit
52:08 <Avatar> I'll jump on now so you can link it if you want
52:18 <Steven> you crazy kids
52:39 <Avatar> Brunius: draw a stick figure man
53:15 <Steven> hey mort.
53:18 <Avatar> I actually find ridiculous minis in roll20 work better than properly drawn-up warrior icons
53:27 <Avatar> mekkis' businessman inspired me
53:39 <Avatar> you just can't forget who that person is 
55:04 <Mort> what?
55:35 <Avatar> he's saying hello
55:35 <Mort> https://app.roll20.net/join/624233/FlrIsA
55:38 <Mort> hi
55:53 <Mort> thats it
56:38 <Steven> If you guys cant find another person, let me know I'll sit in a chair and run a premade.
57:14 <Mort> oh gosh
57:17 <Mort> ok Im going to pop soon
57:22 <Mort> will work on putting everything up
57:26 <Mort> just get your macros and inits working
01:24 <Brunius> what is a macro
02:09 <Mort> automated stuff
02:11 <Mort> so you dont have to...
02:18 <Mort> make your attack rolls etc
03:24 <Steven> i do believe it is shower time
03:48 <Brunius> Emailed, mort
03:53 <Mort> thanks Bruuuu!
04:01 <Mort> btw guys I am a 3 star gm
04:08 <Mort> and also I think later Id like to test out my mike stuff
04:14 <Mort> as per skype call
04:17 <Mort> we'll use skype for this I guess
04:25 <Mort> since no random roll 20 people so no need for google hangouts
06:25 <Brunius> ...what level does 26 XP put me on
06:30 <Brunius> I think it's 9 actually
07:17 <Mort> 24 = lv 9
08:58 <Mort> bru are you around?
09:01 <Mort> I can test skype?
10:12 <Brunius> sure
12:12 <Mort> bru can you hear what Im saying?
12:24 <Brunius> nope
13:08 <Mort> oh dear ok we needt owork it out
14:10 <Avatar> mort: can you add the tokens and open the initiative tracker?
14:10 <Mort> I cant add tokens yet
14:10 <Mort> wrong ocmp
14:19 <Mort> but bru you couldnt hear me when I was speaking on kype right?
14:19 <Mort> skype
14:47 <Mort> this be really shitty...
14:49 <Brunius> I could hear you sometimes
14:55 <Mort> not clear?
14:56 <Mort> meh
15:03 <Brunius> There was a scraping noise as well
15:15 <Mort> sometimes isnt good neough
15:18 <Mort> Ill need to work on that.
17:28 <Mort> Im off for dinner Ill brb
18:02 Mort has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
20:46 <Brunius> Anything I'll likely need other than weapons and perception
29:19 <Brunius> !item boots of speed
29:26 <diebot> Brunius, BOOTS OF SPEED [moderate transmutation] CL:10 feet 12000gp, 1lb
29:26 <diebot> As a free action, the wearer of boots of speed can click her heels together, letting her act as though affected by a haste spell for up to 10 rounds each day. The haste effect's duration need not be consecutive rounds. Source: Ultimate Equipment
30:09 <Avatar> !item boots of fly
30:10 <diebot> Avatar, BOOTS OF SPEED [moderate transmutation] CL:10 feet 12000gp, 1lb
30:11 <diebot> As a free action, the wearer of boots of speed can click her heels together, letting her act as though affected by a haste spell for up to 10 rounds each day. The haste effect's duration need not be consecutive rounds. Source: Ultimate Equipment
30:15 <Steven> well...
30:20 <Avatar> what are they called
30:30 <Avatar> !item winged boots
30:30 <diebot> Avatar, WINGED BOOTS [moderate transmutation] CL:8 feet 16000gp, 1lb
30:30 <diebot> These boots appear to be ordinary footgear. On command, they sprout wings at the heel and let the wearer fly, without having to maintain concentration, as if affected by a fly spell (including a +4 bonus on Fly skill checks). The wearer can fly three times per day for up to 5 minutes per flight. Source: Ultimate Equipment
30:31 <Steven> that was probably the longest shower i've taken since i got back from field camp when i was in college.
31:25 <Steven> i feel fantastic.
32:27 <Brunius> !hp 9d10m3
32:28 <diebot> Brunius, 85
36:48 <Steven> do you guys want me to make legal table size for heresy p3?
46:02 <Mekkis> Thanks Avatar 
46:20 <Mekkis> Avatar, can you give Mort my tokens?
47:36 Brunius has quit (Changing hosts)
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38:48 <Avatar> ah no? email them to her
39:17 <Avatar> Steven: if we don't get a 4th, you might as well
40:45 <Avatar> I think the game is at like 9pm on new years eve for americans?
41:11 <Avatar> or 7pm
41:14 <Avatar> something like that
47:12 <Steven> I think my super healer is level 9
47:24 <Steven> yup level 9
59:08 <Avatar> +1 armor has -1 ACP doesn't it
21:37 <Avatar> it's mine
21:56 <Avatar> I've only played trial by machine in 6
21:56 <Steven> so they could play and come back for more pfs.
22:04 <Avatar> brunius needs a 5-9 or 7-11
22:45 <Steven> valley of veiled flame is supposed to be awesome as fuck.
23:04 <Avatar> I actually really haven't kept up with season 6
23:24 <Steven> i've played by way of bloodcove and silver mount collection
23:51 <Steven> with my +26 while moving full speed stealth character.
25:05 <Steven> i single handedly did some things it was supposed to take an entire group to do
25:18 <Steven> it was very much a watch me do this type of situation.
26:01 <Steven> was the only reason we succeeded though, because we had two no bluff, no stealth, 7 int barbarians with us.
26:13 <Steven> 100% murder hobos.
26:44 <Steven> and then we did bonekeep 2.
26:49 <Steven> and nothing could see me.
27:03 <Avatar> mate that is a red flag
27:21 <Avatar> when you are saying "I single handedly did some things it was supposed to take an entire group to do", you're doing something wrong
27:44 <Steven> word.
27:49 <Avatar> I thought you said something abou being a total baller VL
27:51 <Steven> dat stealth character.
28:00 <Steven> but im not a rogue.
28:16 <Steven> Lorewarden fighter... so good.
28:49 <Steven> and you can be a good VL and still have broken as fuck characters mang.
29:00 <Steven> in balance my character only does 1d4+2 damage.
29:31 <Steven> but now that he is level 8... i have a shadow.
29:34 <Steven> and butterfly sting
29:43 <Avatar> is there a wayfinder that does mage hand
29:53 <Steven> 2d6str damage...
30:54 <Steven> mebe in the pathfinder society primer
31:51 <Avatar> blerg, 4pp
32:13 <Steven> that aint bad.
32:39 <Steven> I think im going to remake my kingmaker character for pfs play.
33:01 <Avatar> it's pretty bad at level 4
33:20 <Steven> nah thats cheap as fuck.
34:49 <Steven> so my shadow dancer named his shadow seelah after the paladin that got murdered in bonekeep... 
37:27 <Steven> well thats just crazy
37:28 <Steven> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qh5l?Online-play-and-custom-Chronicle-sheets
38:03 <Steven> im looking to see if there is a game i can play.
38:50 <Avatar> that isn't news
38:52 <Steven> nope... no games postd.
38:56 <Steven> sad pandas.
39:12 <Brunius_> custom chronicle sheets have been banned since like, forever
39:50 <Steven> yeah, i just never noticed the thread before now.
40:57 <Mekkis> ?
40:58 <Mekkis> nope
41:33 <Brunius> I think only mwk affects ACP
45:30 <Steven> so what scenarios in season 6 have you played?
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