// #d&d — 2014-06-14
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01:02:02 <Avatar> any requests for scenarios next weekend
01:02:11 <Avatar> friday night/sat morning
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01:33:58 <s_gmusic|Work> I'm getting stuck on it.
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01:37:19 <Steven> how is it not as effective?
01:39:43 <s_gmusic|Work> melee feels severely lacking and I'm not as versatile as I feel I should be.
01:40:52 <s_gmusic|Work> that could just be a failing I'm noticing with Monks in general. my previous characters were a Gunslinger, fighter, magus, and Zen Archer.
01:44:54 <Setna> hi
01:52:14 <Steven> what would increase your versatility without changing your class?
01:56:46 <s_gmusic|Work> Ki Pool
02:38:56 <Steven> sorry, neighbor came over
02:39:07 <Steven> and shes sexy so i wasnt gonna tell her to leave lol.
02:39:39 <Steven> level 7 mythic tier 2.
02:43:57 <s_gmusic> nice
02:45:16 <Steven> my character went to -52hp during the fight and died.
02:45:23 <Steven> Tenacious Survivor so good!
02:45:28 <Avatar> feeling like you're ineffective, especially continually, is the best reason to retrain
02:45:39 <Avatar> trying to continue with an ineffective character is soul crushing
02:45:55 <s_gmusic> heh
02:46:19 <Steven> currently rocking a perm negative level
02:46:28 <Steven> so much better than a true death.
02:46:49 <s_gmusic> yeah... don't think divines can cast Restoration until 9th level.
02:47:14 <s_gmusic> y'all might come across some scrolls, though... don't remember for sure. I often adjusted the treasure for my players.
02:47:29 <Steven> thinking of taking 7th level feat Leadership and getting the mythic path ability from champion for crusader.
02:47:40 <Steven> just so i can have a heal bot follow me around lol.
02:49:52 <Steven> i dunno. i'd have a leadership score of 12 at 7th level and have 16 level 1s following me around.
02:50:06 <s_gmusic> damn. forgot leg day: http://i.imgur.com/1VRJh9I.png
02:50:21 <Avatar> probably for the best
02:50:59 <s_gmusic> I was tempted to allow Leadership, under the restriction that the Minions wouldn't be ignored in combat and they'd be valid targets for demons to attack.
02:51:10 <s_gmusic> suggested it to a couple people and got dirty looks for it.
02:53:13 <Steven> well the reason that would suck would be the cumulative -2 leadership for causing the death of a cohort as i'm pretty fuckin sure taking level 1s into the worldwound would be seen as the leaders fault.
02:54:07 <Steven> i think im going to put the +2 ability score into str.
02:54:31 <s_gmusic> yup. knew I couldn't trust my players with minions beyond their pets/mounts.
02:54:38 <Avatar> I think any future games I run are likely only going to be 5-9 or 7-11
02:54:52 <Steven> gives me a much better split for two handing a weapon
02:55:09 <Steven> currently +7 damage, and i'd take it to +9
02:55:16 <Steven> it'd
02:55:21 <s_gmusic> have GM babies stagnating there or tired of running the 1-5/1-7 new guys?
02:55:35 <s_gmusic> moar deeps always gud
02:56:37 <Avatar> we've been running 1-5s forever and a day and what ends up happening is that newbies continually come in to play and leave around level 5 at the latest
02:56:48 <Avatar> meanwhile our veterans are getting screwed and other veterans don't come in
02:57:01 <Steven> well con would take me to a raging con of 26, 28 if i activate my medal.
02:57:25 <Steven> meaning i could go to a -56 while raging.
02:57:25 <Avatar> I'm playing eyes of the ten soon so I want to be able to run that in here
02:57:28 <s_gmusic> oh yeah, have you played Rise of the runelords?
02:57:31 <Steven> well there are certain ways you can get out of the 'im ineffective' hole.
02:57:40 <Steven> i'm GMing it for a group.
02:57:49 <Steven> without retraining.
02:58:23 <s_gmusic> got a friend that wants to start running it here soon. any tips for playing it?
02:59:02 <Steven> personally i dont think a ki pool is going to help. It is a swift action for 1 more attack during a flurry, +4 dodge bonus to AC, or +20ft move speed for a round.
03:00:04 <Steven> that isnt utility that is barkskin and a haste cast on them.
03:01:16 <Steven> you'll get out of the campaign what you put into it more so then any other AP I've seen run.
03:03:45 <s_gmusic> oh? they're using the Anniversary Edition, if that matters. trying to think up character ideas for now, until everyone meets up and things get decided.
03:04:03 <Steven> my advice still stands.
03:06:33 <Steven> alright i really need to find a feat.
03:06:37 <s_gmusic> fair enough. kind of confused me a bit.
03:07:20 <Steven> basically the more roleplay your group does the more fun you will have, but also the more you will learn about backstory and gain friendships which might help you out in significant ways.
03:08:16 <Steven> damn it i wish bloodragers got a Rage power or two.
03:10:40 <s_gmusic> they... don't? I know they get certain spells that only work while raging, but didn't noticed no Rage Powers. maybe that'll change in the ACG hardback
03:11:14 <Steven> it would be nice.
03:11:36 <Steven> the spells when raging is a nice feature but you dont get that till 11th.
03:11:44 <s_gmusic> oh.
03:11:59 <s_gmusic> well, off to bed.
03:12:08 <s_gmusic> more like off to read a book, but whatever. \
03:12:10 <s_gmusic> later.
03:12:13 <Steven> later
03:37:51 <s_gmusic> question: the Monk's Ki Pool ability at level 4 says unarmed strikes count as Magic for bypassing DR. Would that also apply to incorporeal? to go with that, would Holy Amulet of Mighty Fists work instead? it is a magic effect.
03:40:01 <Avatar> don't think so re counting as magic vs incorporeal
03:40:13 <Avatar> it specifically says "for bypassing DR"
03:44:38 <Mekkis> !item elven chain
03:44:46 <diebot> Mekkis, ELVEN CHAIN [no aura (nonmagical)] CL:0 armor 5150gp, 20lb
03:44:46 <diebot> This extremely light chainmail is made of very fine mithral links. This armor is treated, in all ways, like light armor, including when determining proficiency. The armor has an arcane spell failure chance of 20%, a maximum Dexterity bonus of +4, and an armor check penalty of -2. Source: PFRPG Core
03:44:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, Heresy of man II
03:45:20 <s_gmusic> :(
03:54:36 <Mekkis> moin
03:56:11 <Mekkis> avatar: are the folks down there running Eot10 soon?
03:56:21 <Avatar> 2 weeks
03:56:24 <Avatar> finally
03:57:18 <Steven> so.... my problem is Blur or Mirror Image... cant decide what to pick. I think i'm going to go with Blur.
03:57:31 <Steven> but.... ya know... mirror image so good.
03:57:49 <Mekkis> so go blur
03:58:01 <Avatar> both pretty good
03:58:34 <Steven> yeah, 7th level 2 mythic tiers Blood Rager.
04:00:01 <Avatar> s_gmusic: don't ever suggest allowing leadership
04:00:32 <Steven> it really isnt a big deal so long as the players dont abuse it.
04:00:47 <Avatar> anyone who likes the idea of leadership in a game wants to abuse it
04:00:57 <Avatar> it is basically abuse by definition
04:01:18 <Mekkis> !spell mirror image
04:01:21 <diebot> Mekkis, MIRROR IMAGE illusion (figment[]) bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, magus 2 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 min./level Save: SR:Source: PFRPG Core
04:01:21 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/mirror_image.html
04:01:22 <Mekkis> that was sudden, Avatar
04:01:29 <Steven> i think you've had bad experiences.
04:01:43 <Avatar> have you read the feat
04:02:14 <Steven> In normal games i would agree that leadership is an exceptionally powerful feat.
04:02:32 <Steven> in wrath of the righteous its significantly underpowered
04:02:47 <Steven> the spells i have access to are pretty sweet
04:03:49 <Steven> because lets say your character is maxing out leadership score
04:03:58 <Steven> and somehow manages to get that level 17 cohort.
04:04:48 <Steven> its still just a level 17 cohort and you're fighting things that would be CR+5-6 above what he is meant to fight.
04:05:24 <Steven> now if it got mythic tiers... sure leadership would again be super powerful, but there is no option for that.
04:05:47 <Avatar> what was sudden
04:06:02 <Avatar> 2 weeks? we have been trying to get a game together for months
04:06:14 <Avatar> like months to years
04:06:23 <Avatar> since before unicon I think
04:06:25 <Steven> what goin on avatar?
04:06:30 <Avatar> eyes of the ten
04:06:47 <Avatar> the original group had ashley in it
04:06:59 <Avatar> we played waking rune at unicon didn't we
04:07:31 <Steven> its a good one.
04:08:38 <Avatar> oh is it
04:08:50 <Steven> if memory serves tonight we fought a CR9/M4 at level 6.
04:08:53 <Steven> yeah eyes of the ten pretty good.
04:09:11 <Avatar> I thought perhaps it would be a run of the mill 4-parter
04:09:37 <Steven> well now you know
04:09:50 <Steven> so if there had been a cohort in that fight he would have been a level 4 and been murdered in a most vicious fashion
04:18:00 <Mekkis> because kapow and I have both indicated willingness to fly down to play it with you and Ulzef
04:22:17 <Brunius> !roll 1d2
04:22:20 <Brunius> !throw 1d2
04:22:21 <diebot> Brunius, 1d2: [1d2=1] 1
04:24:25 <Avatar> that's the first I've heard that
04:33:06 <Steven> yo
04:33:23 <Steven> so... 8th level/2nd Tier Bloodrager.
04:33:35 <Steven> -4 Negative levels.
04:33:43 <Mekkis> seriously?
04:34:00 <andrey> that's four positive levels, right?
04:34:41 <Steven> yes... totally means that.
04:34:53 <andrey> naturally
04:35:29 <Steven> every mythic fight i get into, I drop negative because I'm the only character that can take a full round and not die from it.
04:47:35 <Steven> first round before i got to go, took 120-130 damage.
04:48:22 <Steven> we ended active combat rounds with me being negative 121 damage.
04:49:52 <Steven> and then they healed me and i came back to life and got a negative level... would have killed anyone else.
04:55:37 <Steven> i'm thinking at 9th level, Toughness and Mythic Toughness for my tier 3 feat.
04:55:53 <Steven> that way when negative HP i'll have dr10 epic.
05:02:09 <Steven> so then at 9th level while raging i'd have a 184hp
05:02:58 <Steven> and could go 58 negative giving me and Hp pool of 242 before dying.
05:05:14 <Steven> with a swift action 246
05:05:36 <Steven> and 9 more from an increased con score 245hp.
05:05:59 <Steven> 255 even.
05:06:13 <Steven> pretty stupid for a 9th level character
05:17:04 <Mekkis> Avatar, WotW definitely suggests Leadership as a feat choice
05:17:30 <Avatar> then it's an exception
05:18:05 <Avatar> I'll look at heresy of man 2
05:18:37 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure kapow ran it for me
05:22:12 <Steven> the other option is pick up mythic power attack and take my damage from 1d8+15 to 1d8+21.
05:22:31 <Steven> sorry +18 to +21.
06:12:57 <Damalon01> Hey guys
06:16:48 <Brunius> `op
06:21:48 <Mekkis> hey
06:22:42 <Damalon01> hows it going? been awhile
06:25:32 <Mekkis> alright, more or less
06:31:05 <Damalon01> lol me too
06:38:46 <s_gmusic> Well played, sir. http://imgur.com/gallery/wtE59Bw
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06:54:33 <Steven> well pretty boring so far. wish i could sleep but i have way to much energy
06:55:34 <Jamayonaise> Hello
06:56:22 <Mekkis> hey
06:57:27 <Jamayonaise> I'm new to pathfinder and I was looking to find a quick sessions so I can learn some of the ropes.
06:58:21 <Jamayonaise> I have the beginner box and have read through the hero's handbook so I think I have a rough idea of what's going on. :P
06:59:20 <Jamayonaise> I've also tried the solo adventure
07:00:59 <Jamayonaise> Is this the right place to be asking for help?
07:01:48 <Mekkis> It's *a* place
07:02:52 <Jamayonaise> haha
07:03:29 <Jamayonaise> Mekkis, is there anything you would suggest for an rpg n00b like me?
07:05:48 <Mekkis> Jump in, play your character, have fun.
07:05:51 <Mekkis> :)
07:07:36 <Jamayonaise> Hello, my name is Valeros.
07:08:37 <Jamayonaise> I am a skilled adventurer looking quests and epic loot.
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07:47:11 <Setna> hi
07:52:42 <Setna> hello
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10:04:50 <Mekkis> Ballig, are you alive. You're slightly less attentive than usual :S
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10:15:19 <s_gmusic|Work> anyone know of a way for an arcane caster to use WIS for their casting stat?
10:15:34 <Brunius> there's an archetype
10:15:38 <Brunius> for sorceror, I think?
10:16:04 <s_gmusic|Work> oh? trying to think of a silly thing.
10:16:34 <Brunius> huh, looks like it's a bloodline
10:16:37 <Brunius> Empyreal
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10:57:26 <Mekkis> Brunius_,
10:57:33 <Brunius_> Mekkis,
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10:57:58 <Mekkis> I'm cooking a lamb shank for you. If you leave now, you should be here when it's ready
10:58:18 <Brunius> I'm gonna have to decline that kind offer
10:59:05 <Mekkis> A GODDAMN SHEEP DIED FOR THIS, AND YOU'RE JUST 'DECLINING'.
10:59:13 <Mekkis> you HEARTLESS BASTARD!
10:59:28 <Brunius> damn right I'm a heartless bastard
11:01:17 <Mekkis> in other news, I reaped the benefits of my roleplaying yesterday
11:02:20 <Mekkis> Gave an awesome speech to the bigwigs at work
11:22:58 <Brunius> I'm finally getting around to learning c++
11:28:39 <Mekkis> after doing c?
11:29:00 <Mekkis> while ( *++s = *++t ) ;
11:29:10 <Brunius> not learned c before
11:29:14 <Brunius> not learned c?
11:29:16 <Brunius> idk
11:29:42 <Mekkis> I finally got around to learning x86 assembly
11:30:05 <Brunius> from what I know thats...slightly more impressive
11:33:04 <Mekkis> depends what you're doing
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11:56:43 <s_gmusic|Work> 1 Oracle (Lunar Mystery)/2 Paladin/17 Sorcerer Do nothing but stack CHA.
12:10:07 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, where's the Synthesist?
12:12:15 <s_gmusic|Work> GM hates summoners with a passion. think I may be able to get by with that build.
12:12:16 <Mekkis> Brunius, Ulzef DarkKapow: I've updated the horn
12:12:18 <Mekkis> ?horn
12:12:21 <diebot> Mekkis, http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/horn_fortified.svg
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13:13:06 <Avatar> dumb summoners
13:13:35 <Avatar> they are good to play with if you don't want to die
13:33:17 <s_gmusic|Work> another build I came up with to use was a Zen Archer Monk/Empyreal Sorcerer/Arcane Archer. Build WIS, Rain Death.
17:31:19 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: Sat 21st 10am || SS: TBA || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
17:31:19 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Jun 9 15:19:20 2014
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17:36:55 <s_gmusic> anyone else having issue getting on the paizo site?
17:37:02 <Avatar> god I hope not
17:37:04 <Mekkis> not last night
17:37:06 <Avatar> otherwise I will not get through the day
17:37:39 <Avatar> yeah can't get on
17:37:40 <Avatar> fuck
17:37:52 <s_gmusic> just tried going to the society forums and additional resources pages. both are "Connection has timed out"
17:38:15 <Mekkis> !item elven chain
17:38:24 <Mekkis> Avatar, Heresy of man II
17:38:24 <diebot> Mekkis, ELVEN CHAIN [no aura (nonmagical)] CL:0 armor 5150gp, 20lb
17:38:25 <diebot> This extremely light chainmail is made of very fine mithral links. This armor is treated, in all ways, like light armor, including when determining proficiency. The armor has an arcane spell failure chance of 20%, a maximum Dexterity bonus of +4, and an armor check penalty of -2. Source: PFRPG Core
17:38:29 <Mekkis> # ping paizo.com
17:38:29 <Mekkis> PING paizo.com (207.115.69.198) 56(84) bytes of data.
17:38:29 <Mekkis> ^C
17:38:29 <Mekkis> --- paizo.com ping statistics ---
17:38:29 <Mekkis> 7 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 5999ms
17:38:33 <Avatar> this is a disaster
17:38:35 <Avatar> might call in sick
17:38:47 <Mekkis> your work's that bad?
17:38:57 <Avatar> there is nothing to do
17:39:25 <Avatar> it doesn't help that a lot of sites are blocked, it's a miracle paizo works
17:39:32 <Avatar> gaming sites are blocked, except paizo
17:50:13 <Mekkis> there isn't 'work' to do?
17:50:38 <Avatar> no my work is done within 30 mins
17:50:44 <Avatar> my ideal day is 2 hours
17:50:58 <Mekkis> you should do something about that.
17:51:20 <Mekkis> (also, you should consider yourself lucky: I don't get internet at my work)
17:52:07 <Avatar> what do you do again
17:52:20 <Mekkis> Stuff.
17:52:21 <Avatar> I had the internet even at my old jobs
17:52:32 <Avatar> except when I was taking calls the entire time
17:54:54 <Mekkis> !spell mirror image
17:55:00 <diebot> Mekkis, MIRROR IMAGE illusion (figment[]) bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, magus 2 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 min./level Save: SR:Source: PFRPG Core
17:55:00 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/mirror_image.html
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18:26:54 <Steven> yo
18:27:01 <Steven> so... 8th level/2nd Tier Bloodrager.
18:27:13 <Steven> -4 Negative levels.
18:27:37 <andrey> that's four positive levels, right?
18:28:18 <Steven> yes... totally means that.
18:28:31 <andrey> naturally
18:29:07 <Steven> every mythic fight i get into, I drop negative because I'm the only character that can take a full round and not die from it.
18:41:26 <Steven> first round before i got to go, took 120-130 damage.
18:42:02 <Steven> we ended active combat rounds with me being negative 121 damage.
18:43:31 <Steven> and then they healed me and i came back to life and got a negative level... would have killed anyone else.
19:04:54 <s_gmusic|Work> paizo's back up.
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20:21:40 <s_gmusic|Work> anyone know of a way for an arcane caster to use WIS for their casting stat?
20:21:56 <Brunius> there's an archetype
20:22:00 <Brunius> for sorceror, I think?
20:22:26 <s_gmusic|Work> oh? trying to think of a silly thing.
20:22:56 <Brunius> huh, looks like it's a bloodline
20:22:59 <Brunius> Empyreal
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21:03:48 <Mekkis> Brunius_,
21:03:55 <Brunius_> Mekkis,
21:04:21 <Mekkis> I'm cooking a lamb shank for you. If you leave now, you should be here when it's ready
21:04:40 <Brunius> I'm gonna have to decline that kind offer
21:05:27 <Mekkis> A GODDAMN SHEEP DIED FOR THIS, AND YOU'RE JUST 'DECLINING'.
21:05:36 <Mekkis> you HEARTLESS BASTARD!
21:05:50 <Brunius> damn right I'm a heartless bastard
21:07:39 <Mekkis> in other news, I reaped the benefits of my roleplaying yesterday
21:08:43 <Mekkis> Gave an awesome speech to the bigwigs at work
21:29:20 <Brunius> I'm finally getting around to learning c++
21:35:01 <Mekkis> after doing c?
21:35:22 <Mekkis> while ( *++s = *++t ) ;
21:35:32 <Brunius> not learned c before
21:35:37 <Brunius> not learned c?
21:35:38 <Brunius> idk
21:36:05 <Mekkis> I finally got around to learning x86 assembly
21:36:27 <Brunius> from what I know thats...slightly more impressive
21:39:27 <Mekkis> depends what you're doing
22:03:05 <s_gmusic|Work> 1 Oracle (Lunar Mystery)/2 Paladin/17 Sorcerer Do nothing but stack CHA.
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22:16:29 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, where's the Synthesist?
22:18:37 <s_gmusic|Work> GM hates summoners with a passion. think I may be able to get by with that build.
22:18:38 <Mekkis> Brunius, Ulzef DarkKapow: I've updated the horn
22:18:40 <Mekkis> ?horn
22:18:43 <diebot> Mekkis, http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/horn_fortified.svg
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22:56:24 <Mekkis> Brunius, consider logging onto WoT
23:19:28 <Avatar> dumb summoners
23:19:57 <Avatar> they are good to play with if you don't want to die
23:39:39 <s_gmusic|Work> another build I came up with to use was a Zen Archer Monk/Empyreal Sorcerer/Arcane Archer. Build WIS, Rain Death.
23:55:29 <Mekkis> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/protect/forum/mse-protect_updating/microsoft-security-essentials-reporting-false/0240ed8e-5a27-4843-a939-0279c8110e1c?tm=1400189799602
23:55:40 <Mekkis> hehehe
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