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01:20:41 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: TBA || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
01:20:41 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sat Oct 25 07:44:13 2014
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01:32:20 <Avatar> !spell blood money
01:32:23 <diebot> Avatar, BLOOD MONEY transmutation ([]) magus 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, witch 1 1 swift action Range: 0 ft. Comp: V, S Duration: Instantaneous Save: SR:Source: RotRL-AE-Appendix
01:32:24 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/blood_money.html
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03:01:49 <Avatar> maybe you read it
03:24:31 <Steven> not that either
03:38:18 <jand> Hello, anyone home?
03:38:23 <Avatar> yep
03:39:20 <Steven> yup
03:42:48 <jand> Hello
03:43:35 <Avatar> what's going on
03:43:46 <jand> Not all to much :)
03:43:54 <jand> You?
03:43:57 <Avatar> cool
03:44:07 <Avatar> I am going out soon
03:44:31 <Steven> say what?
03:44:38 <Steven> avatar doesnt leave the house.
03:44:48 <jand> Haha, where are you off to?
03:45:07 <Avatar> I don't have a laundry
03:45:54 <Brunius> `op
03:46:18 <Steven> lies! avatar doesnt wear clothes!
03:46:26 <Avatar> mate
03:47:04 <Steven> so what up?
03:47:27 <Steven> i dunno bout you guys but im having chili verde
03:47:42 <Avatar> I had a Salad
03:48:39 <Steven> salad can be good.
03:48:48 <Avatar> salad is always good
03:48:55 <Avatar> you can make friends with salad
03:49:09 <Steven> my body doesnt handle that much leafy vegitables well.
03:49:40 <Steven> like i can have a little bit of spinach but any more then that and my stomach just gets upset.
03:50:34 <Avatar> if I ever get like that my life is basically over
03:50:44 <Avatar> I eat salad usually twice a day
03:50:57 <Steven> yeah, i just dont eat that much.
03:51:04 <Avatar> neither do I
03:51:53 <Steven> the last salad i ate was a pear and goatcheese salad w/ walnuts and spinach
03:52:10 <Steven> It was awesome.
03:52:21 <Steven> i made it.
03:52:27 <jand> Sandwich for me
03:52:39 <jand> Avacado, ham and cherry tomato
03:52:45 <jand> toasted
03:52:45 <Steven> but i only got to have a little bit because otherwise upset stomach.
03:54:32 <Steven> now i kinda want a little salad.
03:55:03 <jand> I could go for a kebab personally
03:55:35 <Avatar> mmm avocado
03:57:12 <Steven> with my chili verde i had some guacamole
03:58:01 <jand> Now I really want to go and get a kebab, but I have had far to many of them recently
06:10:49 <Avatar> even then, you can still have an appeal with the GM
06:10:58 <Steven> well usually we are the grease... sometimes we are the sand.
06:10:58 <Avatar> presumably you've already done that
06:11:22 <Steven> well hopefully... and in a reasonable situation people compromise.
06:11:52 <Steven> but some people do love to be intractable
06:12:15 <Steven> there is a GM that i get emails about because he is one of my local players/GMs
06:12:18 <Steven> from people online.
06:12:48 <Steven> and its basically them ranting about how horrible a job i have done in 'training' this GM.
06:12:58 <Avatar> wow
06:13:06 <spider21b> i always thought the role of the gm or dm was to be the game maker or runner like a designer of a video game
06:13:16 <Steven> because you know... i'm responsible for other peoples behavior
06:14:54 <Steven> This GM has good rules knowledge but he lacks personal skills and had a tendency to try to win combats as a GM instead of providing a story/roleplaying experience.
06:15:26 <Steven> so, i got emails. I always forwarded them to the online VOs.
06:16:36 <Steven> alright... so enough talking shop... lets do something fun instead.
06:17:11 <Steven> I'm playing in a running of Emerald Spire
06:17:19 <Steven> not for pfs.
06:17:25 <spider21b> side question if at first level you didn't choose yoru Favored Class bounus can you choose a class at level 2 if you muiltclassed?
06:17:42 <spider21b> sounds fun
06:17:46 <Steven> you choose a favored class at character creation.
06:17:51 <Steven> it can be any class.
06:17:59 <Steven> well... except prestige classes.
06:18:13 <Steven> and whenever you gain a level in that class you get the bonus.
06:18:39 <spider21b> but i didn't pick on at level one
06:18:57 <Steven> you technically have to pick one... retcon it to make it legal.
06:19:06 <spider21b> its homebrew so idk
06:19:15 <spider21b> you got a point
06:19:23 <spider21b> it would be rouge ugg
06:20:35 <Steven> So the group make up, Necromancy Wizard. Undead Lord Cleric, Fighter, Something else i cant remember, and my character who is a customized class.
06:20:57 <Steven> Its basically a feral hunter, but instead of getting the animal aspects i get the Verminous Hunter Aspects.
06:21:15 <Steven> and Vermin Empathy
06:21:18 <spider21b> so its full
06:21:38 <Avatar> spider21b: did you give your first class a favoured class bonus
06:21:41 <Avatar> to hp or skill points
06:21:48 <Steven> we are all NE characters
06:22:14 <spider21b> hp
06:22:29 <Avatar> then your first level class is your favoured class
06:22:55 <Steven> everyone in the party but me worships urgathoa, and i worship Appolyon.
06:23:22 <Steven> now... what should i build for when i die, because i dont see this character surviving much longer.
06:23:36 <Avatar> a rogue
06:23:39 <Steven> gotta fit in with a bunch of urgathoans.
06:23:44 <Steven> I already built a rogue avatar!
06:23:50 <Avatar> buy the rogue a ring of invisibility
06:23:53 <Steven> I dont need to build another one!
06:23:54 <Avatar> it can be your precious
06:24:26 <Steven> why would i buy a ring of invisibility when there is a better ring out there.
06:25:23 <Avatar> what's that
06:25:44 <Steven> Decoy ring.
06:27:01 <Avatar> ah ye olde decoy ring
06:27:07 <Avatar> do you think you can withdraw even in empty space
06:27:12 <Steven> no.
06:27:17 <Avatar> okay
06:27:40 <Steven> you have to be in melee combat with someone.
06:27:56 <spider21b> i see?
06:28:16 <Avatar> I suggested that ring to stephen, he bought it, and he didn't end up using it and sort of wondered whether he should have got it
06:28:28 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat#TOC-Withdraw
06:28:40 <Steven> with fast getaway its broken as fuck
06:29:05 <Steven> sneak attack, withdraw invisibly to another square threatening the creature.
06:29:07 <Avatar> what is fast getaway
06:29:42 <Steven> next round, sneak attack, withdraw invisibly to another square threatening the creature... rinse repeat
06:30:03 <Avatar> holy shit
06:30:19 <Avatar> how does a bad guy deal with that
06:30:27 <Steven> see invisibility?
06:30:53 <Avatar> PFS bad guys don't have see invisibility
06:31:05 <Steven> or he readies an attack when the person becomes visible after the attack but before the withdraw
06:32:39 <Steven> alright.... so time to craft a replacement character.
06:32:41 <Steven> not a rogue
06:32:48 <Steven> gotta be evil.
06:32:59 <Avatar> a slayer
06:33:13 <spider21b> or investigator?
06:33:16 <Steven> and no CE/Antipaladin
06:33:17 <spider21b> or a bloodrager?
06:33:28 <Avatar> don't tell me you can't make an evil slayer
06:33:40 <Steven> sadly we have a prohibition on bloodragers, summoners, and gunslingers.
06:33:47 <Steven> and by sadly i mean thankfully
06:34:07 <Avatar> are bloodragers broken?
06:34:13 <Avatar> why are they so popular
06:34:15 <Steven> no... not at all.
06:34:29 <Steven> /end sarcasm
06:35:28 <Steven> so cant have an endgame plan that exceeds level 12
06:35:56 <spider21b> muiltclass your own way fighter with somthing?
06:36:13 <Steven> we already have 2 frontliners
06:37:10 <Avatar> what about bolt ace
06:37:25 <Avatar> andrei suggested I retrain my musket master to a bolt ace
06:37:32 <Avatar> that isn't feasable
06:37:57 <Avatar> you can't retrain a bad ass guy who loves guns into a guy who suddenly now likes crossbows
06:38:01 <Steven> bolt ace have problems.
06:38:09 <Avatar> does it?
06:38:10 <Steven> im waiting for them to fix em.
06:38:14 <Avatar> what problems
06:38:24 <Avatar> I was considering making one
06:38:53 <Steven> well... they still get a gun for one.
06:39:48 <Avatar> bonus
06:39:49 <Avatar> !
06:40:18 <Steven> yeah, but its dumb.
06:40:34 <Steven> in the class description they dont like guns... but still get one?
06:40:35 <Avatar> let's pretend it's not dumb
06:40:39 <Avatar> what else is wrong with them
06:40:59 <Steven> go to paizo, type in bolt ace.
06:43:20 <Steven> suppose i could build my hawkeye character as backup.
06:44:53 <Avatar> hmmm ok
06:45:02 <Steven> Urban barbarian w/ a bow he cant really use unless he is raging.
06:45:10 <Avatar> I wouldn't mind changing my investigator into a bolt ace
06:45:18 <Avatar> my going-nowhere investigator
06:45:39 <Avatar> I like the concept of the investigator, but it seems a bit hopeless in a campaign like PFS
06:46:04 <Steven> yeah bolt ace is still a solid class, i just dont want to play one right now until they either fix it or say its not going to be tinkered with.
06:46:38 <Avatar> has anyone on the design team said anything about it
06:50:32 <Steven> nope.
06:51:47 <Avatar> will likely try to run heresy next weekend
06:52:14 <Steven> alrighty... time to pick a race.
06:52:38 <Steven> outiders are a no no.
06:52:56 <Steven> but pretty much everything else is alright
06:53:24 <Avatar> that's easy, human
06:53:58 <Steven> no thanks...
06:54:01 <Avatar> the idea of playing a human already makes me want to roll up a character for no good reason
06:54:05 <Steven> I'll be a slave then.
06:54:21 <Avatar> well this is the first you've mentioned of humans being slaves in your campaign
06:54:59 <Steven> well... thats just how the necromancer and undead cleric are.
06:55:21 <Steven> they 'bought' the half orc
06:55:28 <Steven> with their starting gold.
06:55:53 <spider21b> really?
06:55:58 <spider21b> thats odd
06:56:13 <Steven> yeah.
06:56:42 <spider21b> what do they use him for?
06:56:51 <Steven> meat shield
06:57:12 <Steven> 1st level he has like 16 hit points and a 20ac
06:58:32 <Steven> my current character is a dhampir
06:59:46 <Steven> mid combat i've stopped fighting to pick up an unconcious NPC and drink their blood. Mechanically i switch over to Worm Aspect and gain fasthealing 1
07:00:14 <Steven> the character is just a solid all around character
07:00:40 <Steven> decent AC, decent Hp, decent saves, has ranged and melee capabilities.
07:01:01 <Steven> so, if it dies, well you gotta come back with something better because it obviously wasnt cuttin the mustard
07:08:37 <spider21b> random question since i have a familar what can i do with it since i dont have spells?
07:10:19 <Steven> im buyin a damascus steel kukri for christmas.
07:23:26 <Mekkis> oh. who's the victim?
07:40:46 <Steven> my wallet
07:41:17 <Mekkis> okay
07:45:59 <Avatar> what happened to wotw? is it finished
07:46:27 <Avatar> did kapow go MIA
07:48:12 <Mekkis> he is MIA at the mt, yesomen
07:48:26 <Mekkis> he is MIA at the moment, yes
07:48:29 <Mekkis> and wow
07:48:46 <Avatar> haha
07:48:47 <Mekkis> that recent PFS blog post has a lot of things in it that I agree with and support!
07:48:57 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lgqn?Improvements-Are-AComin
07:51:04 <Avatar> those are all things we've talked about on the messageboards for months to years
07:51:12 <Mekkis> I know, right
07:51:37 <Avatar> include full stat blocks for templated creatures
07:51:43 <Avatar> well hello, thanks, finally, two seasons later
07:59:57 <Mekkis> fair enough
08:00:14 <Mekkis> I'm really tempted to buy a pair of flaming swords for christmas
08:02:01 <Mekkis> have you played Beacon Below, Avatar?
08:27:02 <Steven> im buying a real damascus steel, not a patterned weld
08:29:30 <Steven> so its killing my wallet. but so be it.
08:31:56 <Avatar> no
08:32:09 <Avatar> I like the title though
08:32:13 <Avatar> reminds me of Green Market
08:37:09 <Mekkis> it'ss a bitch to run
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09:56:51 <Mekkis> !search blood money
09:56:52 <diebot> Mekkis, No items found.
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12:29:50 <macattacku> hello
12:29:59 <Mekkis> hi
12:30:22 <macattacku> so whats going on?
12:30:40 <Mekkis> I'm patching a linux system, levelling up a character, and watching my wizard die in nethack
12:30:42 <Mekkis> Yourself?
12:31:05 <macattacku> nothing really. just looking for somethng to do
12:31:15 <Mekkis> oh. Do you play D&D/Pathfinder?
12:31:53 <macattacku> i want to. i have the jist of the rules, more or less. but i havent actually played before yet. ive created a character before but not played
12:32:03 <Mekkis> oh, cool
12:32:57 <macattacku> ive been looking around for a place to play online
12:33:37 <macattacku> my game club plans on playing it wednesday, but it would be nice to know a little more before then
12:34:56 <Mekkis> We do a lot of discussion here, and try to get a game every week or so in this channel. You're welcome to participate
12:35:22 <macattacku> when would that be?
12:39:53 <macattacku> hello?
12:44:48 <Mekkis> generally Saturdays
12:44:57 <Mekkis> or so. Depends on what people here want.
12:45:27 <macattacku> k
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15:58:50 <mib_ns28j8> jk
16:07:35 <Avatar> do any of listen to know direction
16:24:47 <Mekkis> When you worship Zyphus, you venerate the idea that
16:24:47 <Mekkis> random chance governs your life rather than a master
16:24:47 <Mekkis> plan. You believe that those who look to the gods for
16:24:47 <Mekkis> answers are deluding themselves.
16:49:46 <Mekkis> Meth found in laser printer cartridges
16:49:47 <Mekkis> Contents may still have been cheaper than actual toner
17:24:30 <Mekkis> !feat empower spell
17:24:32 <diebot> Mekkis, EMPOWER SPELL [Metamagic] You can increase the power of your spells, causing them to deal more damage.
17:24:32 <diebot> Benefit: All variable, numeric effects of an empowered spell are increased by half, including bonuses to those dice rolls. Saving throws and opposed rolls are not affected, nor are spells without random variables. An empowered spell uses up a spell slot two levels higher than the spell’s actual level. Source: Core
17:25:26 <Mekkis> How does that work? So CL9 Empowered Magic Missile will do (5d4+5)*1.5 damage, right?
18:41:44 <Avatar> all my characters now worship Zyphus
18:41:57 <Avatar> except Cairo, I guess. dumb clerics
18:42:04 <Avatar> oh er, and Judas
18:42:29 <Avatar> Judas, FOR NOW!
18:51:40 <Mekkis> Avatar, I'm fine with that. I won't even bother checking if he's a legal deity to worship!
18:54:02 <Avatar> sounds like an evil deity
18:54:12 <Avatar> deities that start with a Z are usually evil
18:54:30 <Mekkis> he's a demon lord
18:58:43 <Avatar> lucky guess aye
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21:11:23 <Mekkis> !item heavy load belt
21:11:30 <diebot> Mekkis, HEAVYLOAD BELT [faint transmutation] CL:1 belt 2000gp, 3lb
21:11:30 <diebot> This wide leather is held together with two strands of oxen skin threaded through holes on each end. The belt's wearer is affected as though subject to a permanent ant haul spell (Advanced Player's Guide). Source: Ultimate Equipment
21:11:41 <Mekkis> !search ant haul
21:11:42 <diebot> Mekkis, Heavyload Belt,Spherewalker's Staff
21:11:55 <Mekkis> !item Spherewalker's Staff
21:11:56 <diebot> Mekkis, SPHEREWALKER'S STAFF [moderate conjuration] CL:9 none 43400gp, 3lb
21:11:57 <diebot> This slender darkwood staff is topped either with a star-shaped crystal or a butterfly-like silver head. Sacred to the faith of Desna, a spherewalker's staff allows use of the following spells: • ant haulAPG (1 charge) • water walk (1 charge) • air walk (2 charges) • dimension door (2 charges) • freedom of movement (2 charges) • plane
21:11:57 <diebot> shift (3 charges) When carried (even when stowed), a spherewalker's staff increases the wielder's base land speed by 10 feet. Source: AP 75
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23:20:50 <Steven> i dont watch it.
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