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00:19:20 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: TBA || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
00:19:20 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sat Oct 25 07:44:13 2014
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00:39:37 <Ulzef> do anyone wanna run so play test encounters with me at some point cause i can track all rollsand stuff on here
00:40:59 <spider21b> sure
00:41:17 <spider21b> i want to test drive my new level one for my homebrew
00:45:58 <spider21b> when do you want to do it?
00:47:47 <Ulzef> was wanting to test about lvl 7 have low lvl test xp. um maybe will work out later maybe tuesday night.
00:47:57 <spider21b> nods
00:52:00 <Mekkis> Hey. Gog's giving Mount And Blade away for free
01:01:11 <Mekkis> !throw 1d2
01:01:12 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d2: [1d2=1] 1
01:03:47 <Avatar> Mekkis: how come you haven't been responding to me on lync, you snob?
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02:09:12 <Mekkis> Avatar, you're never online when I am
02:31:43 <spider21b> hi?
02:45:30 <Mekkis> !spell holy ice
02:45:32 <diebot> Mekkis, HOLY ICE transmutation ([cold, good, water]) cleric/oracle 5 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) Comp: V, S, M (a flask of holy water or 5 pounds of powdered silver worth 25 gp) Duration: 1 minute/level, instantaneous, or until expended (see text) Save: Reflex negates or none (see text) SR:yesSource: Ultimate
02:45:32 <diebot> Magic
02:45:33 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/holy_ice.html
02:53:17 <Mekkis> !item sadist's lash
02:53:19 <diebot> Mekkis, SADIST'S LASH [strong abjuration and conjuration] CL:11 none 22301gp, 1lb
02:53:19 <diebot> A sadist's lash is a long whip of thin strips of leather. Created originally by a special sect of wizards who served under Runelord Sorshen, sadist's lashes swiftly became quite popular throughout Thassilon. The lash acts as a +1 wounding whip, and also aids enchantment spells in two ways. First, it can deliver enchantment spells with a range of
02:53:20 <diebot> touch as if the wielder had touched the creature struck. Additionally, any creature that takes damage from a sadist's lash takes a -5 penalty on Will saves against all enchantment effects created by the wielder of the lash for 1 minute unless it succeeds at a DC 15 Will save. Source: RotRL-AE-Appendix
03:11:34 <Mekkis> moin
03:44:10 <Mekkis> Steven, can I get a reference that either allows or disallows crafting a Phylactary of Positive Channelling that gives +2 to wisdom in PFS?
03:53:23 <s_gmusic> how would it give WIS +2?
03:56:28 <Mekkis> because of p553.
03:56:32 <Mekkis> Adding new abilities
04:06:33 <Avatar> anyone know where to get ebooks on the cheap
04:06:40 <Avatar> not amazon
04:21:40 <s_gmusic> most of what I'm finding (though no dev post yet) is that you can not do that because it would be considered a "custom" item and those ain't allowed in PFS
04:23:23 <s_gmusic> a VL says the same when someone asks about a similar example.
04:23:32 <s_gmusic> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4s8&page=5?How-to-Upgrade-Your-Gear-in-PFS#241
04:25:24 <Mekkis> Avatar, I generally manage it after lunch.
04:36:10 <Mekkis> Hey Brunius
04:36:16 <Brunius> what up
04:36:41 <Mekkis> Standard Things
04:37:34 <Mekkis> Work
04:37:42 <Mekkis> Yourself? Nearly done with highschool?
04:38:14 <Mekkis> Need to pack for Brisbane
04:38:48 <Mekkis> Avatar, irc.undernet.org?
04:38:52 <Mekkis> in #bookz
04:39:35 <Avatar> brand new ebooks
04:39:43 <Avatar> like pre-order today, out tomorrow
04:52:04 <Brunius> One more exam, tomorrow
04:52:13 <Brunius> Then I'm free to waste time in my own inventive ways
04:57:04 <Mekkis> Yay
04:57:11 <Mekkis> What's your plan after that?
05:00:57 <Brunius> go to uni, become a cog in the corporate machine
05:05:39 <Avatar> you don't have to be online
05:05:43 <Avatar> you weren't online when I messaged you
05:06:00 <Avatar> Brunius: pathfinder, you mean !
05:07:45 <Mekkis> Brunius, Which uni, which company, which machine?
05:08:02 <Mekkis> Some machines aren't bad to be cogs in.
05:08:07 <Brunius> Swinburne, THE MAN
05:08:18 <Avatar> yeah sorry I saw that this morning
05:09:14 <Mekkis> Which MAN?
05:09:24 <Brunius> you know
05:09:25 <Brunius> THE man
05:10:15 <Mekkis> There are several of them
05:11:37 <Mekkis> And which machine
05:16:32 <Mekkis> (which subject, at least)
05:16:46 <Brunius> Bachelor of Engineering (Robotics and Mechatronics)
05:16:49 <Mekkis> Please tell me it doesn't have the word 'game' in the title
05:16:58 <Brunius> Ideally a double degree with Computer Science
05:17:11 <Mekkis> Oh? One of my cousins did that, at RMIT
05:17:29 <Brunius> I considered RMIT, but their course didn't seem as interesting
05:17:34 <Brunius> at least from the open days
05:19:48 <Mekkis> Fair enough. Planning on doing the commute?
05:20:41 <Brunius> Yeah, should be moving in to ringwood though
05:20:48 <Brunius> so I might start playing PFS there, too
05:21:06 <Avatar> they don't allow PFS at ringwood anymore
05:21:13 <Brunius> why>
05:21:15 <Brunius> ?
05:21:44 <Avatar> I think they wanted to be a cards game only store
05:21:58 <Brunius> classic
05:22:14 <Mekkis> Ringwood is where Blackburn moved?
05:22:22 <Brunius> Blackburn moved to Box Hill
05:22:31 <Brunius> Ringwood is uhhh
05:22:33 <Brunius> Next Level?
05:22:38 <Avatar> I think secretly ringwood had an issue with the noise level
05:22:58 <Mekkis> oh
05:23:06 <Mekkis> Then why not kick out Yugiyo?
05:23:31 <Avatar> I don't know what that is
05:23:54 <Avatar> I did notice we were always the loudest people in there, even when we weren't really being "loud" per se
05:24:03 <Avatar> the other tables were always really quiet, which was why we liked it
05:24:13 <Mekkis> That would explain it
05:24:15 <Avatar> unlike box hill
05:24:25 <Avatar> that's not what they said to stephen though
05:24:32 <Mekkis> Avatar, the trading card game people play before they realise that Magic is much better
05:24:54 <Mekkis> To be fair, PFS doesn't bring much revenue for the game store
05:24:58 <Brunius> I'm told that magic is the tcg that people play before they realise l5r is much better
05:26:03 <Mekkis> Brunius, perhaps
05:26:17 <Avatar> I went up to buy some water at the beginning of that game, and the girl seemed reluctant to serve me, and when she did, she asked me if we had planned the game last minute, because they wanted to know in advance that we were coming
05:26:52 <Mekkis> But you have to realise that Magic is the only TCG that's been able to support itself without relying on some other product tie-in.
05:30:27 <Mekkis> So Brunius, what have you planned for the next three months? I have some suggestions...
06:00:19 <Steven> alright 18731g to spend, and i can craft wonderous item
06:00:28 <Steven> wondrous item even.
06:00:36 <Steven> time to find something useful to craft
06:03:56 <Steven> level 9 psychic
06:07:04 <Steven> suppose i could craft my headband up to a +6
06:44:53 <Mekkis> nope, can't help you
06:54:06 <Avatar> thx anyway
07:00:54 <Avatar> holy ice seems like a very high spell level for what it does
07:01:04 <Avatar> sounds like it's almost akin to produce flame
07:01:20 <Avatar> a bit more for the ice wall
07:01:34 <Mekkis_x200> seriously? It was awesome today
07:01:50 <Mekkis_x200> fire up to 15 ice bolts at someone?
07:09:10 <Avatar> 1d6+2 per javelin?
07:09:18 <Avatar> is that multiple on a full attack?
07:10:01 <Avatar> or do you fire all of them, as many as you can cast, in the same round as the spell?
07:10:08 <Avatar> I guess that would make it better
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07:33:08 <Mekkis_x200> you fire them all when you cast the spell
07:33:27 <Mekkis> Avatar, I really like what you said there
07:33:38 <Mekkis> "You can't expect to say "I'm using this character for roleplay and you're all going to sit down and play". That's never going to happen."
07:38:01 <Avatar> so 9d6+18 when you can first cast it, at multiple targets with multiple attack rolls
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07:43:36 <Mekkis_x200> yep
07:43:47 <Mekkis_x200> great against mirror image
07:47:28 <Avatar> hmmmm excellent point
11:02:47 <appferreira> hello
11:12:32 <appferreira> is anyone online ?
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14:30:54 <Mekkis> !feat staggering strike
14:30:57 <diebot> Mekkis, SUNDERING STRIKE [Combat]Prereq: Str 13, Improved Sunder, Power Attack, base attack bonus +9. Your critical hits can sunder your foes' weapons.
14:30:57 <diebot> Benefit: Whenever you score a critical hit with a melee attack, you can sunder your opponent's weapon, in addition to the normal damage dealt by the attack. If your confirmation roll exceeds your opponent's CMD, you may deal damage to your opponent's weapon as if from the sunder combat maneuver (roll normal damage to the weapon separately). This
14:30:57 <diebot> does not provoke an attack of opportunity.
14:30:57 <diebot> Special: You can only apply the effects of one of the following feats to a given critical hit: Bull Rush Strike, Disarming Strike, Repositioning Strike, Sundering Strike, or Tripping Strike. You may choose to use this feat after you make your confirmation roll.
14:30:57 <diebot> Normal: You must perform a sunder combat maneuver to sunder an opponent's weapon. Source: APG
14:35:42 <Avatar> yo
14:35:51 <Avatar> you don't want to spectate a game first
14:35:59 <Avatar> create your character and then play it
14:36:05 <Avatar> then you'll really know what a game is like
14:36:19 <Avatar> spectating a game is terribly boring
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15:06:04 <Mekkis> !hp 6d10m3
15:06:05 <diebot> Mekkis, 58
15:07:36 <Steven> i keep rolling for my HP
15:07:46 <Steven> for my home campaigns im involved in
15:07:50 <Steven> been fantastically lucky
15:10:46 <Mekkis> nice
15:11:05 <Steven> i got dicked 1 time with a roll of a 2.
15:11:11 <Steven> but so far above average.
15:15:42 <appferreira> i played already
15:15:47 <appferreira> but it was personally
15:15:57 <appferreira> i want to spectate because i dont know how it will be online
15:16:18 <appferreira> im portuguese so im not sure i can handle all the game in english :P
15:16:36 <appferreira> how do i know when the games are scheduled ?
15:18:33 <Avatar> if you register on the site, you'll get invites emailed to you
15:19:48 <Avatar> check for some games running here as well: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/pathfinder-society-online-collective
15:20:30 <appferreira> oh nice thank you
15:20:39 <appferreira> where the games are played ?
15:20:47 <appferreira> is there any platform or something ? a software ?
15:30:20 <Syke> hi
15:30:35 <Avatar> syke!
15:31:39 <Syke> so what type of game is pathfinder?
15:32:26 <Avatar> an amazing one
15:33:18 <Syke> um ok
15:33:53 <Avatar> have you played d&d
15:34:05 <Syke> na im a vet of wow
15:34:19 <Syke> and lotro
15:34:22 <Avatar> forget wow
15:34:25 <Avatar> forget lotro
15:34:39 <Avatar> that's just for killing things
15:34:44 <Avatar> not real deal problem solving
15:34:54 <Avatar> which may or may not include killing things
15:35:00 <Syke> i dont like pay to win games so pls tell me now if thats what this is
15:35:12 <Avatar> it's a tabletop game, not a computer game
15:35:35 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/gettingStarted.html
15:37:10 <Avatar> yeah that's what I thought
15:54:48 <Avatar> a lot of games are on roll20
16:10:18 <Mekkis> !search heal
16:11:09 <Mekkis> !search heal
16:11:17 <diebot> Mekkis, 162 items found and PMed to Mekkis.
16:11:21 <Mekkis> wow
16:11:27 <Mekkis> IDENTIFY
16:11:34 <Mekkis> !search heal
16:11:35 <diebot> Mekkis, 162 items found and PMed to Mekkis.
17:52:24 <appferreira> ok, thank you very much for your help Avatar
18:20:46 <appferreira> hi there
18:22:09 <appferreira> ive seen recently pfrpg.com site and i was wondering how can i spectate a game session first ?
18:26:03 <appferreira> can you people help me with that? thank you :)
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19:33:02 <Mekkis> Steven, can I get a reference that either allows or disallows crafting a Phylactary of Positive Channelling that gives +2 to wisdom in PFS?
19:42:23 <s_gmusic> how would it give WIS +2?
19:45:23 <Mekkis> because of p553.
19:45:28 <Mekkis> Adding new abilities
20:10:14 <Mekkis> !item sandles of quick reaction
20:10:24 <diebot> Mekkis, SANDALS OF QUICK REACTION [faint transmutation] CL:4 feet 4000gp, 1lb
20:10:24 <diebot> These supple leather sandals grant a burst of speed during times of duress. When the wearer acts during a surprise round, he can take a standard and a move action during the surprise round. If the wearer already has the ability to take a standard and a move action during the surprise round, he instead gains a +10 circumstance bonus to speed when
20:10:24 <diebot> acting during a surprise round. Source: Ultimate Equipment
20:10:36 <s_gmusic> most of what I'm finding (though no dev post yet) is that you can not do that because it would be considered a "custom" item and those ain't allowed in PFS
20:12:19 <s_gmusic> a VL says the same when someone asks about a similar example.
20:12:28 <s_gmusic> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2p4s8&page=5?How-to-Upgrade-Your-Gear-in-PFS#241
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21:49:15 <Steven> alright 18731g to spend, and i can craft wonderous item
21:49:24 <Steven> wondrous item even.
21:49:33 <Steven> time to find something useful to craft
21:53:03 <Steven> level 9 psychic
22:03:49 <Mekkis> Steven, can I get a reference that either allows or disallows crafting a Phylactary of Positive Channelling that gives +2 to wisdom in PFS?
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22:06:02 <Mekkis> Steven, can I get a reference that either allows or disallows crafting a Phylactary of Positive Channelling that gives +2 to wisdom in PFS?
22:07:19 <Steven> sounds like a crafted item.
22:12:09 <Steven> PCs can always buy weapons and equipment off their Chronicle sheets and the approved equipment lists for their size so long as their size is Small or Medium.
22:12:39 <Steven> page 22
22:13:08 <Steven> elsewhere in the book it says approved list is the core rulebook and additional resources basically
22:19:48 <Mekkis> I'm not talking drain/damage
22:20:09 <Mekkis> I'm talking if an eidolon stops taking Ability Score Increase (Int).
22:22:56 <Mekkis> I saw a character who had one, who claimed that p553 of the core rulebook allowed it, and that the VO in charge of some Fantasy Grounds online gaming was doing a similar thing
22:24:11 <Avatar> not sure how that works
22:24:19 <Avatar> isnt' that just a permanent increase
22:25:17 <Steven> ill crack open my core but i doubt theres an item thats a positive channeling phalac and +2 wis item/
22:25:31 <Avatar> good day captain
22:25:49 <Ulzef> hey anyone know where the rules for edges if your square are i am having a gm say i cant use a tower shield effect to face down or up
22:25:54 <Ulzef> and hello
22:26:17 <Steven> nah... that doesnt do anything.
22:26:26 <Avatar> no facing in pathfinder, it faces every way
22:26:49 <Steven> they want to do adding new abilities to an item.
22:27:24 <Ulzef> yeah tower shield can be set block a edge gming is saying that does not include up or down
22:27:39 <Avatar> squares aren't really squares
22:27:42 <Avatar> they're 5ft cubes
22:27:51 <Avatar> unless it needs to be dug into the ground, it should be fine
22:28:17 <Ulzef> i know that he is wanting me to find it write otherwise i have to abide by his ruling
22:28:52 <Avatar> why does he think it doesn't include up or down? because of the 5ft cube thing or the must be dug into the ground thing
22:29:07 <Avatar> the latter would be the tower shield wording
22:29:23 <Ulzef> i am actually playing a kineticist and can make a wall that needs no attachment and wanna make a lvl ground with it in 5ft a tine
22:30:58 <Ulzef> its gitch being a prat and demanding the rule
22:32:22 <Steven> my big problem with this character is that i dont need any items to make this character work.
22:32:27 <Mekkis> there isn't
22:32:47 <Mekkis> they're pointing to the bit on p553, that says you can, as long as you pay 1.5x the cost
22:33:27 <Steven> save that the item they are purchasing is not on any list.
22:33:47 <Steven> it is a customized item using the item creation rules.
22:34:31 <Avatar> some commonsense would apply, you're not going to find a rule that says you can use a tower shield left, right, forward, backwards, up and down
22:34:31 <Steven> page 8, Neither the craft feats nor the item creation section of the magic items chapter in the Core Rulebookare legal for play.
22:35:16 <Mekkis> ok, cool
22:35:32 <Steven> yeah, its easy to miss, but it is pretty black and white.
22:35:49 <Mekkis> yeah, nice
22:36:15 <Mekkis> Avatar, actually, they're not 5' cubes
22:36:30 <Mekkis> they're 5' squares, with some strange stuff for altitude
22:37:01 <Avatar> what strange stuff
22:37:08 <Avatar> pretty sure I've had it confirmed they are cubes before
22:39:04 <Avatar> !spell expeditious excavation
22:39:06 <diebot> Avatar, EXPEDITIOUS EXCAVATION transmutation ([earth]) druid 1, sorcerer/wizard 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Comp: V, S, M (tiny shovel) Duration: instantaneous Save: see text SR:noSource: APG
22:39:07 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/expeditious_excavation.html
22:41:14 <Avatar> ulzef: this might be as close as it gets: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2r33j?Tower-Shield-Deployment
22:41:58 <Mekkis> !feat staggering strike
22:41:59 <diebot> Mekkis, SUNDERING STRIKE [Combat]Prereq: Str 13, Improved Sunder, Power Attack, base attack bonus +9. Your critical hits can sunder your foes' weapons.
22:41:59 <diebot> Benefit: Whenever you score a critical hit with a melee attack, you can sunder your opponent's weapon, in addition to the normal damage dealt by the attack. If your confirmation roll exceeds your opponent's CMD, you may deal damage to your opponent's weapon as if from the sunder combat maneuver (roll normal damage to the weapon separately). This
22:41:59 <diebot> does not provoke an attack of opportunity.
22:41:59 <diebot> Special: You can only apply the effects of one of the following feats to a given critical hit: Bull Rush Strike, Disarming Strike, Repositioning Strike, Sundering Strike, or Tripping Strike. You may choose to use this feat after you make your confirmation roll.
22:41:59 <diebot> Normal: You must perform a sunder combat maneuver to sunder an opponent's weapon. Source: APG
22:43:19 <Steven> Alright, i have a +2 headband of int, a cloak of resistance +4, ring of mind shielding, Belt of mighty con +2
22:46:04 <Steven> hmmmm.... Arachnid goggles...
22:46:10 <Steven> give myself all around vision
22:51:55 <Ulzef> silly phone irc
22:56:51 <Ulzef> dcs all the time
23:17:08 <Mekkis> !hp 6d10m3
23:17:09 <diebot> Mekkis, 58
23:17:37 <Avatar> that's your connection I think
23:17:53 <Avatar> unless your irc app doesn't use keep active while sleeping
23:18:04 <Avatar> possibly power saving might be doing it
23:18:37 <Steven> i keep rolling for my HP
23:18:40 <Ulzef> its the app
23:18:48 <Avatar> are you using andchat
23:18:49 <Steven> for my home campaigns im involved in
23:18:54 <Steven> been fantastically lucky
23:19:01 <Ulzef> but i want to put my phone in a sock and hit gitch with it
23:19:03 <Avatar> ditch mango, get andchat
23:19:16 <Avatar> hitting things with it might make it lose connection
23:19:23 <Ulzef> nah mango2
23:19:27 <Avatar> even GMs giving you grief unfortunately
23:19:33 <Avatar> andchat is your friend
23:19:44 <Ulzef> will get it now
23:20:44 <Ulzef> hmmm cant find andchat
23:21:28 <Avatar> just double checked, it's there
23:21:37 <Avatar> AndChat (Free)
23:21:50 <Mekkis> nice
23:22:08 <Steven> i got dicked 1 time with a roll of a 2.
23:22:15 <Steven> but so far above average.
23:22:50 <Ulzef> what type of phone you on?
23:23:27 <Avatar> android
23:23:28 <Avatar> note 3
23:23:33 <Avatar> works on the galaxy s lines
23:24:40 <Mekkis> !item Arachnid goggles
23:24:42 <diebot> Mekkis, ARACHNID GOGGLES [moderate transmutation] CL:9 eyes 15000gp, 2lb
23:24:42 <diebot> This leather band is studded with dozens of faceted crystals of varying size, two of which fit over the eyes. When wearing these goggles, the wearer uses all the crystals as eyes, gaining all-around vision (Bestiary 2). Source: Ultimate Equipment
23:24:50 <Mekkis> how useful is that?
23:24:59 <Mekkis> It seems an expensive way to get +2 to AC
23:25:43 <Ulzef> yeah i am on my iphone
23:25:57 <Ulzef> my nokia is currentlydead
23:26:46 <Ulzef> yeah its only for andriod :(