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// #d&d — 2014-10-24

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05:33:17 <Steven> avatar
05:33:30 <Steven> become a vo so i can talk to you bout stuff.
05:33:33 <Steven> get on it!
06:08:43 <Avatar> I'm not a people person
06:09:00 <Steven> neither am i
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08:39:32 <Avatar> I did talk to joe caubo about it once, and he said there were too many online VOs
08:39:57 <Avatar> and cut-pasted the same details to apply that are already on the site
08:40:06 <Avatar> I didn't realise it was a cut-paste until about a year later
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10:39:00 <Steven> avatar, you a VO yet?
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12:34:56 <mib_edsh6s> Yo, question here. How does Dragon disciple: Blood of dragons work if you already have the dragon bloodline, but no sorcerer levels?
12:35:22 <Zedorland> it advances your effective level in the dragon bloodline
12:35:33 <Zedorland> im assuming your looking at entering via bloodrager?
12:35:38 <mib_edsh6s> Yep
12:38:48 <Zedorland> hmmm
12:38:53 <Zedorland> doesnt look like it has been clarified
12:40:41 <mib_edsh6s> Lets see, with this setup I get bonus feats at 7, 10, 11, 17, and 18 if I split it evenly
12:41:43 <mib_edsh6s> But that would be to my disadvantage to have a bonus feat on an odd level
12:42:19 <Zedorland> maybe
12:44:16 <Zedorland> hmmm
12:44:22 <Zedorland> yeah, its not clear
12:44:31 <mib_edsh6s> Thats why I asked
12:44:38 <Zedorland> by RAW it would advance your non existent sorcerer levels
12:44:52 <mib_edsh6s> by RAI, it should advance the current bloodline
12:44:53 <Zedorland> as it specifically calls out the sorcerer draconic bloodline
12:45:00 <Zedorland> Maybe
12:45:15 <mib_edsh6s> Technially, a bloodrager is a sorcerer
12:45:16 <Zedorland> or maybe you should be able to use the draconic bloodline from level 5+
12:45:28 <Zedorland> sort of
12:45:37 <mib_edsh6s> specifically, a hybrid barb/sorc
12:45:45 <Zedorland> well no
12:45:58 <Zedorland> they cant qualift for feats that say - Sorc 3- in the prerequisites
12:46:33 <mib_edsh6s> I know there are some feats like eldritch heritage they can't get
12:47:00 <Zedorland> i would rule in a home game that it advanced the bloodrager bllodline
12:47:12 <Zedorland> but i think for PFS your are stuck with the sorc bloodline
12:47:16 <Zedorland> if this is for pfs
12:48:36 <mib_edsh6s> so 1,3,5, b6,7,b8,9,11 so the shortest amount of time I can earn Dominate Person is level 11
12:48:59 <Zedorland> where does dominate come from?
12:49:05 <mib_edsh6s> Kitsune
12:49:13 <Zedorland> ah, with tails
12:49:26 <Zedorland> whats the bonus 6?
12:49:31 <Zedorland> and 8?
12:50:05 <mib_edsh6s> Bloodrager for 6 levels, then dragon disciple for 2 to gain a bonus feat at level 6 and level 8
12:51:43 <mib_edsh6s> I can't double up the magical tail, so getting a bonus feat at an odd level would be inconvienant
12:53:10 <mib_edsh6s> And magical tail becomes a bonus feat for a kitsune that can get magical tail. So I can be a 9 tail by level 11
12:56:45 <Zedorland> wait you can take magic tail in place of any bonus feat?
12:59:32 <mib_edsh6s> Yep, Nine-Tailed Inheritor: The kitsune is a wellspring of magical energy that manifests as additional tails. The kitsune gains Magical Tail as a bonus feat at 1st level. In addition, he adds Magical Tail to all class lists of bonus feats as initial feat choices for those lists, including all ranger combat styles and all sorcerer bloodlines.
13:02:04 <Zedorland> wow
13:02:10 <Zedorland> oh third party
13:02:11 <Zedorland> okay
13:02:13 <Zedorland> hmm
13:02:19 <Zedorland> i fele like you could go nuts with this
13:02:35 <Zedorland> a slayer could get a bonus feat every 2 levels
13:03:03 <Zedorland> wait, dragon disciple with a strength penalty race?
13:04:39 <mib_edsh6s> True there are likely faster ways, but I wanted to go for a drakitsune
13:05:05 <mib_edsh6s> And I don't mind really. I can use weapon finesse to make up the difference using dragon claws
13:12:02 <Zedorland> i think with the bloodrage and the strenght bonus from DD, youre better off staying strength
13:16:29 <mib_edsh6s> Well the other bonus to going Dex is you can keep a good armor class. And skills for bloodrager doesn't really lean to a str build
13:17:16 <mib_edsh6s> Plus, Bloodrger gives me +4/+6 to strwhile raging anyway
13:19:48 <mib_edsh6s> Still I don't have Str as entirely a dup stat
13:19:51 <mib_edsh6s> dum
13:19:54 <mib_edsh6s> ><
13:19:56 <mib_edsh6s> Dump
13:20:12 <mib_edsh6s> i made Wis the dump stat
13:21:04 <mib_edsh6s> The most abusive dragon diciple I made was actually a rogue
13:21:27 <Zedorland> really?
13:22:03 <mib_edsh6s> The old Neverwinter nights game. Without mods, I made a character that at max level had AC 83
13:22:44 <Zedorland> holy moly
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13:23:07 <mib_edsh6s> I was a rogue 29, Sorc 1, Dragon disciple 10
13:23:20 <Zedorland> my favorite entry is sorc 4/Blood rager 1/DD>
13:23:24 <Zedorland> wait, level 40?
13:23:46 <mib_edsh6s> yeah, level 40, though I can still get that silly without going fullepic
13:23:58 <mib_edsh6s> The expansions to NWN let you go to level 40
13:24:33 <mib_edsh6s> The reason is simple. Most people don't understand how to abuse Use magic device
13:25:16 <mib_edsh6s> So I was a mad Dex Unarmored Rogue using all the best monk gear I could find :D
13:26:54 <mib_edsh6s> Even without epic, as long as you got UMD to 15 ranks, you can easily abuse it
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16:55:49 <Avatar> tomorrow's game isn't looking good
17:12:45 <Zedorland> whats happened?
17:14:19 <Avatar> not enough players
17:14:32 <Avatar> one dropped and spider hasn't produced what he needs for his audit
17:17:28 <Zedorland> daaang
17:17:36 <Zedorland> have you audited me yet?
17:18:00 <Zedorland> ive never been audited on this character, would be good to catch if i've messed anything up
17:19:50 <Avatar> spider's played with us before, he's got a bit of a history of dodginess
17:20:01 <Ballig> we call him Mr Dodgy
17:20:21 <Avatar> I've asked to audit another one of his characters and he disappeared for months, then when he came back, he said he didn't want to play that character anymore
17:20:54 <Ballig> "Oh, I don't have the chronicle sheets on me. I'll just play a pregen"
17:24:50 <Zedorland> ah
17:24:52 <Zedorland> right
17:25:00 <Zedorland> that's a bit rubbish
17:25:27 <Ballig> I still remember the time we were about to start a game and he insisted his random friend play too
17:25:38 <Ballig> so we literally waited around for an hour for this person to figure out what she was doing, get her character together, etc
17:25:44 <Ballig> and then last second she said "sorry guys I have to go"
17:26:39 <Avatar> was that spider?
17:26:48 <Ballig> it was spider insisting that his friend play
17:27:05 <Ballig> I sitll have her on skype because I had to add her to the conference call
17:27:08 <Ballig> she looks like she has down syndrome
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17:32:26 <Steven> avatar... you a vo yet?
17:32:41 <Avatar> not yet
17:32:48 <Steven> keep workin on it.
18:09:41 <Mekkis> wow
18:09:42 <Mekkis> Ballig,
18:09:47 <Mekkis> How are things!
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18:40:01 <Brunius> Ballig is alive
19:19:31 <Mekkis> amazing, isn't it
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21:46:57 <Steven> hi hi welcome back
22:00:12 <Mekkis> hi
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23:55:02 <Steven> damn it, i feel like dookie. my chest is all screwed up with this cold.
23:58:16 <mib_4yi8fu> Happens
23:58:46 <mib_4yi8fu> So weapon finesse only affects hit chance and not damage?
23:59:24 <Steven> correct
23:59:56 <Steven> there are a couple different ways to get dex to damage though