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00:08 <Steven> problem solved.
00:14 <Steven> my mom didnt appreciate it.
00:17 <Steven> lol
01:14 <Steven> but other then a few minor scuffles over the years my brother and i have avoided ever getting into a fist fight again.
02:15 <Steven> same with my brother mike, we had a big fight when we were 17, a coffee table, door, couch and a window were broken, but never fought again.
03:01 <Steven> i technically won, but i wouldnt want to fight him again.
03:05 <Steven> !throw 1d8
03:05 <diebot> Steven, 1d8: [1d8=2] 2
03:19 <Steven> fucker headbutted me
03:31 <Steven> and that was his opener
04:23 <Steven> dont know if you've ever been headbutted but that shit sucks.
06:41 <s_gmusic> most headbutts tend to be forehead vs nose. nose tends to not fare too well. :/
19:23 <Brunius> `op
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54:37 <Avatar> the melbourne crew are dying to krune in hard mode tomorrow
08:32 <Steven> that scenario so much better then season 5 finisher
08:46 <Avatar> did you play it on hard mode
11:18 <spider21b> hi everyone
14:10 <Steven> yeah, we did hardmode.
14:36 <spider21b> hard mode on what?
14:50 <spider21b> oh i made a new character steven do you want to see?
18:45 <Steven> sure
19:35 <spider21b> http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=1036047
21:58 <spider21b> thoughts?
24:20 <Steven> why buy a pistol?
33:13 <spider21b> thats a good question
33:37 <spider21b> its a homebres build of another character and i forgot to switch out the pistol 
35:03 <spider21b> its home brew 
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37:44 <spider21b> hi
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39:27 <spider21b> its for a home brew game anyway 
40:02 <spider21b> you left steven i am sad
47:54 <Steven> im still here.
48:02 <Steven> i was just reading.
55:34 <spider21b> so what did you think of the idea getting a hipogriph?
55:54 <spider21b> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/ranger/archetypes/paizo---ranger-archetypes/sky-stalker
58:16 <spider21b> i know its not ninja esk 
10:43 <Steven> took care of him all day
10:56 <Steven> go to pathfinder game to play looking to blow off steam
11:13 <Steven> i was paralyzed in first fight and nearly died to con poison.
11:23 <Steven> second fight i died before i could act
11:56 <Steven> third fight i started the fight 300 ft away from the party and fight was over before i got there.
12:30 <Steven> fourth fight i was unable to deal damage to the creature because it was a shadow and my attack deals 1d6+6 physical damage... not magical.
12:54 <Steven> and my only damaging spell was fire based which it had DR against because shadow demons are fun.
13:21 <Steven> then fifth fight we fought spam charm person fight to which we all eventually failed.
13:58 <Steven> one person ran away... i think their plan is to coup the leader when she is sleeping freeing us all from the dominate effect because otherwise its a TPK.
14:02 <Steven> so that was my day.
14:07 <Steven> im kinda pissy.
16:21 <Avatar> I like the lesbian character idea
16:47 <Steven> just ordered a pizza.
16:54 <Steven> so that should make me feel a little better.
17:02 <Steven> because im starving.
17:38 <Steven> i think the teamwork thing was probably some kind of oversight.
18:25 <Steven> or maybe they had another ability in mind for it, but it was stronger then a teamwork feat.
18:53 <Steven> and so instead of replacing it and increasing the power level of the archetype just left it as a teamwork feat.
19:09 <Steven> because the class is pretty mechanically strong.
20:48 <Steven> at 15th level its a free belt of physical might +6
21:12 <Steven> thats a pretty good class ability.
21:26 <Spaceshot> yea true
21:36 <Brunius> ...
21:37 <Brunius> what
21:52 <Spaceshot> but you compare that to having a pet with a free belt of physical might +6
22:57 <Steven> i built a feral hunter... before it got killed in the homebrew i was bitching about it was pretty OP just being able to swift action change the bonus
24:06 <Steven> the versatility of it is pretty awesome.
25:01 <Steven> having an animal companion isnt as strong as people make it out to be if the animal companion is run like an animal.
25:03 <Spaceshot> yea I've noticed a lot of versitility in ACG
26:18 <Steven> if an animal companion is ran like another PC that takes the best actions possible then they are super strong.
27:03 <Steven> but if you run an animal companion as an animal that provokes AoOs when it goes to flank and doesnt 5ft step to get in position to help allies and shit like that
27:36 <Avatar> [23:45] <Steven> because i made her into a Liberal lesbian vegitarian
27:40 <Steven> then animal companions become a lot less amazing... unless you have a pounce machine... then get fucked you're breaking the shit out of the game.
28:00 <Steven> also... i hate pounce
28:06 <Spaceshot> pounce is a bit stupid
28:18 <Spaceshot> so is mounting your animal companion when you're not a mounting class
28:43 <Steven> oh i'll surprise round pounce and get 4 attacks... oh look i rolled a nat 20 on initative... i'll get two full round attacks before anyone gets to go.... PFS is easy.
29:16 <Spaceshot> PFS is easy when GMs cbf trying to add logic to the game because many of them think they're not allowed to
29:17 <Steven> i dont mind mounting animal companions
30:44 <Steven> i have an ankleosaurus animal companion that is basically a meat shield
31:25 <Steven> they stay sequestered in a hosteling tower shield
32:03 <Steven> i havent optimized for the stun lock either, cause that is boring.
33:51 <Spaceshot> would an animal companion be smart enough to use battle tactics?
34:34 <Steven> everything you tell it to do requires a handle animal check
39:22 <Spaceshot> yea I thought so
39:30 <Spaceshot> well, everything new you tell it to do
39:39 <Spaceshot> like it'll keep attacking the same target without a check each round
40:06 <Steven> yup
40:24 <Spaceshot> when I've played PFS, I've seen I think 1 handle animal check
40:45 <Spaceshot> but like 1/2 or 1/3 of secnarios had an AC
40:57 <Steven> i dunno man, my animal companion and my character share a language
41:12 <Steven> so i just ask it to do stuff
42:08 <Spaceshot> really?
42:14 <Steven> yeah totem guide.
42:17 <Spaceshot> ah
43:24 <Spaceshot> haven't looked at much of the ACG
43:38 <Spaceshot> just mainly investigator and if they fixed shaman
43:39 <Steven> pretty strong options in it.
43:43 <Spaceshot> oh there is
43:51 <Spaceshot> but that's codex creep for you
44:03 <Steven> dunno what imma make if i cant get my character recovered.
44:42 <Spaceshot> what level was it?
45:09 <Steven> i made a feral hunter for the first character i played and teamed up with walter(my VC) to get a kick ass back story... and then we got raped by 4 aquatic ghouls and a level 3 aquatic ghoul cleric.
45:21 <Steven> at level 2
45:25 <Spaceshot> ouch
45:40 <Steven> so i made an arcanist that is a school savant
45:52 <Spaceshot> I was thinking of a blade adept
45:58 <Steven> level dipped sorc and picked up bloodline development
46:09 <Steven> so im an arcanist with a bloodline and an arcane school
46:23 <Steven> i shoot wood spears
46:32 <Spaceshot> does blade adept cheat and have a blackblade that is a bonded item?
46:38 <Spaceshot> arcane bond*
47:19 <Steven> yes
47:25 <Spaceshot> haha
47:29 <Steven> pretty much that is what happens.
48:03 <Steven> but i think my arcanist is unrecoverable after tonight.
48:10 <Spaceshot> dang
48:27 <Steven> since if he doesnt kill the succubus in the surprise round coup attempt the part is TPK'd
49:01 <Steven> because it will be that guy vs 3 charm person spam bots, my character, and a rogue.
49:29 <Steven> i shoot wood spears at people that do 1d6+6+1 bleed
49:53 <Spaceshot> I think the main annoyance with most of the arcanist archetypes is they replace 1st exploit, not because you want the first, just cause you can't spend your 1st feat to get a different one
50:18 <Steven> i traded most of my exploits away to get a school
50:28 <Spaceshot> I was tempted to go eldrich scion, except the bloodrager bloodlines aren't that exciting for a magus
50:54 <Steven> and then picked up extra exploit to get my bloodline level equal to my character level
51:12 <Spaceshot> do you have any normal exploits?
51:18 <Steven> no
51:24 <Spaceshot> then you can't pick up extra exploit
51:29 <Steven> wait... i got level 5 arcanist right before i died
51:38 <Steven> which is when i picked it up
51:46 <Steven> well not dead... but mind controlled
51:50 <Steven> which is why the build works
52:02 <Spaceshot> mmm
52:14 <Spaceshot> you can't take "extra" feats till you gain whatever it is
52:25 <Steven> i thought you meant normal like acid jet, or counterspell.
52:29 <Spaceshot> so if an archetype replaces the first one, you must wait till the second, or next
52:33 <Steven> you know... useful exploits.
52:54 <Spaceshot> no I mean arcane exploits, the class abilitiy
53:48 <Steven> jesus... what to build now that i have to come up with a character concept.
54:24 <Steven> i really wish my feral hunter was still alive, i liked playing him.
55:04 <Steven> and i've grown to like playing this character.
55:20 <Steven> because i made her into a Liberal lesbian vegitarian
55:40 <Spaceshot> I guess that didn't go well
55:50 <Steven> nah its been grand.
56:17 <Steven> like the GM has guys come up and hit on her and shes just like... "yeah... no i'm into chicks."
57:10 <Steven> shes got a decent cha.
57:30 <Spaceshot> that just sounds like you're makin fun of lesbians/chicks in general
57:32 <Spaceshot> but whatev
58:36 <Steven> no, its making fun of lesbians if im like "im a lesbian i try to sleep with every woman around because lesbians are really just guys that were born with a vagina."
58:56 <Steven> shes just a hippy
58:58 <Spaceshot> I think having guys hit on her, in PFS, is gettin there
59:56 <Steven> that is the GM
00:07 <Steven> i cannot control another persons actions.
00:27 <Spaceshot> any females in your group?
00:34 <Steven> yes
00:42 <Spaceshot> mmk
01:04 <Spaceshot> does the GM have NPCs hit on other female characters?
01:16 <Steven> yup
02:05 <Spaceshot> mmk
02:20 <Steven> i live in pullman washington, which is home to the WSU campus.  like 25k people attend.
02:35 <Steven> this town is fairly liberal
02:38 <Spaceshot> ok?
02:45 <Steven> which lends itself to a pretty healthy feminist community
03:17 <Steven> quite nice really
03:40 <Steven> though occasionally we have a person take a joke to far and then people get butt hurt
04:17 <Steven> and they come bother me to solve their problems and im like... you're 24 years old... be a fuckin adult and use your words to explain to the other person you didnt like their joke.
04:41 <Spaceshot> don't expect people under 40 to do that these days
05:09 <Steven> its really quite pathetic when it happens.
05:30 <Steven> i dont fit in with my generation, and i dont fit in with the current generation either.
05:58 <s_gmusic> I just don't fit in at all.
06:19 <Steven> i do alright with the people in my fathers generation because they solve their own problems.
06:35 <s_gmusic> If someone makes a joke, even a really bad pun, I'm inclined to laugh while everyone else goes "that's not funny". :/
06:59 <Steven> and if we had my way i'd just let people go outside and fist fight until one person is proven the winner by blood.
07:29 <Steven> but hell thats just the way i was raised.
08:11 <Spaceshot> haha
08:17 <Spaceshot> clearly that resolves issues
08:40 <Steven> i remember very clearly the day my brother garrett beat the shit out of me on the front law of my uncles house.
08:55 <Spaceshot> though our VC/VL (I don't remember anymore which is which or who is who) in melbourne had a big spiff about certain jokes and comments in games a few months ago
09:01 <Steven> i went inside and told my dad garrett bloodied my nose and kicked me in the stomach
09:15 <Steven> my dad told me to go back outside and kick garretts ass or go cry in my room.
09:23 <Steven> but to leave him alone
09:33 <Steven> so, went outside and beat the shit out of my brother garrett.
10:22 <Steven> problem solved.
10:28 <Steven> my mom didnt appreciate it.
10:30 <Steven> lol
11:27 <Steven> but other then a few minor scuffles over the years my brother and i have avoided ever getting into a fist fight again.
12:29 <Steven> same with my brother mike, we had a big fight when we were 17, a coffee table, door, couch and a window were broken, but never fought again.
13:15 <Steven> i technically won, but i wouldnt want to fight him again.
13:33 <Steven> fucker headbutted me
13:45 <Steven> and that was his opener
14:37 <Steven> dont know if you've ever been headbutted but that shit sucks.
16:55 <s_gmusic> most headbutts tend to be forehead vs nose. nose tends to not fare too well. :/
12:42 <Mekkis> what does sarenrae think about slavery?
17:48 <Steven> I think there is a chapter intro in the core rulebook that shows kyra jumping a slaver.
29:13 <Avatar> sarenrae loves it
56:50 <Mekkis> Would it be reasonable for a somewhat nondevout follower of Sarenrae to be a slaver?
57:02 <Avatar> no
57:56 <Avatar> I guess if you're "nondevout" and your deity really means nothing to you, then yes
58:57 <Mekkis> you know, you were brought up amoung some Sarenrite renegade devotees in Taldor, before being rescued by the Spirit of Freedom
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30:52 <Goya> Liberal lesbian vegitarian.  *ponders*  Sounds about right. 
33:19 <Goya> Maybe more vegan though.  Or perhaps the whole 'raw foodism' thing. 
50:50 <Steven> i dont know if you could really do vegan in a medieval time period.
51:31 <Mekkis> maybe not, but you could do the clear spindle diet.
52:01 <Steven> yeah, but then what would you wear? 
57:11 <Mekkis> some druidic leaf-based substance
57:25 <Mekkis> there is cotton in Pathfinder
02:00 <Steven> yeah, cotton is good, what do we do for transportation.  everyone in the group is riding horses... you drag them down to 30ft
02:18 <Steven> phantom steed can handle that if you are a caster.
04:34 <Steven> damn... some really good spells are taken out since they use components of animals.
06:07 <Steven> yeah vegetarian is doable with much less trouble.
16:48 <Mekkis> what cultural conditions would cause you do have that kind of worldview?
17:32 <Steven> i was teleported to golarion from another world
17:51 <Mekkis> Common circumstance
18:23 <Steven> on the characters planet it wouldnt be uncommon to be what she is.
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47:58 <spider21b> hi
26:35 <Avatar> I like the lesbian character idea
31:50 <Brunius> ...
31:51 <Brunius> what
37:51 <Avatar> [23:45] <Steven> because i made her into a Liberal lesbian vegitarian
22:57 <Mekkis> what does sarenrae think about slavery?
28:03 <Steven> I think there is a chapter intro in the core rulebook that shows kyra jumping a slaver.
39:27 <Avatar> sarenrae loves it
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48:27 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sat Oct 11 19:36:37 2014
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50:07 <Steven> meh... its a class.
51:43 <Steven> its not the first time ive seen a guy ride an animal companion
07:05 <Mekkis> Would it be reasonable for a somewhat nondevout follower of Sarenrae to be a slaver?
07:17 <Avatar> no
08:11 <Avatar> I guess if you're "nondevout" and your deity really means nothing to you, then yes
09:12 <Mekkis> you know, you were brought up amoung some Sarenrite renegade devotees in Taldor, before being rescued by the Spirit of Freedom
11:05 <Mekkis> wow. 100' fly speed
11:08 <Mekkis> damn it.
12:41 <spider21b> yep
15:02 <spider21b> any pfs games around or homebrew?
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39:13 <Mekkis> Avatar, hardmode or Ashley-mode?
01:51 <Avatar> yeah hard mode with matt
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41:06 <Goya> Liberal lesbian vegitarian.  *ponders*  Sounds about right. 
43:34 <Goya> Maybe more vegan though.  Or perhaps the whole 'raw foodism' thing. 
01:05 <Steven> i dont know if you could really do vegan in a medieval time period.
01:46 <Mekkis> maybe not, but you could do the clear spindle diet.
02:16 <Steven> yeah, but then what would you wear? 
07:26 <Mekkis> some druidic leaf-based substance
07:40 <Mekkis> there is cotton in Pathfinder
12:15 <Steven> yeah, cotton is good, what do we do for transportation.  everyone in the group is riding horses... you drag them down to 30ft
12:33 <Steven> phantom steed can handle that if you are a caster.
14:48 <Steven> damn... some really good spells are taken out since they use components of animals.
16:22 <Steven> yeah vegetarian is doable with much less trouble.
27:03 <Mekkis> what cultural conditions would cause you do have that kind of worldview?
27:47 <Steven> i was teleported to golarion from another world
28:06 <Mekkis> Common circumstance
28:37 <Steven> on the characters planet it wouldnt be uncommon to be what she is.
52:11 <Steven> !throw 4d10
52:16 <diebot> Steven, 4d10: [4d10=9,4,8,5] 26
13:41 <Mekkis> So they're fine as long as they bring an AMF
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