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00:02:23 <Mekkis> hi
00:15:15 <ishmael> sup?
00:21:59 <Mekkis> not that much
00:22:02 <Mekkis> tax
00:23:10 <ishmael> tax?
00:23:19 <ishmael> is it that time of the year?
00:24:36 <Mekkis> no. I'm late
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01:05:59 <ishmael> mekkis
01:06:02 <ishmael> what a cute name
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02:27:11 <Brunius`> http://redd.it/2iwxvg
02:33:26 <Avatar> that's pretty good
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04:03:35 <Mekkis> Brunius!
04:03:43 <Mekkis> What up?!
04:13:10 <Avatar> did you guys play wotw earlier
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06:12:53 <Avatar> wat da f
06:25:20 <Avatar> subtier 1-2 I think
06:25:45 <Mekkis> played it, and I'm not getting up at 7am
06:25:58 <Avatar> see the sunrise
06:26:39 <Avatar> is magical lineage the only thing that will reduce a metamagic level
06:27:20 <Mekkis> There's also Wayang Spellhunter
06:28:43 <Avatar> Chai isn't a wayang
06:28:49 <Avatar> half-elf
06:29:48 <Avatar> I might have to burn an extra trait boon
06:30:42 <Mekkis> ?
06:31:02 <Mekkis> Have we seen Ballig this quarter?
06:35:36 <Mekkis> what spell are you abusing?
06:36:17 <Avatar> magic missile/toppling
06:40:25 <Mekkis> !feat toppling spell
06:40:26 <diebot> Mekkis, TOPPLING SPELL [Metamagic] Your spells with the force descriptor knock the affected creatures prone.
06:40:26 <diebot> Benefit: The impact of your force spell is strong enough to knock the target prone. If the target takes damage, fails its saving throw, or is moved by your force spell, make a trip check against the target, using your caster level plus your casting ability score bonus (Wisdom for clerics, Intelligence for wizards, and so on). This does not
06:40:26 <diebot> provoke an attack of opportunity. If the check fails, the target cannot attempt to trip you or the force effect in response. A toppling spell only affects spells with the force descriptor. A toppling spell uses up a spell slot one level higher than the spell's actual level. Source: UM
06:42:01 <Avatar> he's right there
06:45:32 <Mekkis> why do you need more than a -1?
07:00:47 <Mekkis> him being in IRC doesn't count
07:15:47 <Avatar> I don't need more than -1
07:15:59 <Avatar> I just have two other traits that aren't magical lineage that I'd really like to take
07:42:17 <Mekkis> do you have that boon that lets you take one free trait from Dragon Empires Primer?
08:00:02 <Mekkis> Writing a proof of concept exploit for software deficiencies labeled "will not fix," while effective, isn't acceptable.Writing a proof of concept exploit for software deficiencies labeled "will not fix," while effective, isn't acceptable.
08:00:38 <Mekkis> It's not appropriate or necessary to threaten to replace someone with a few hundred lines of code, though technically feasible.
08:58:05 <Mekkis> What feat should my skillmonkey eidolon get?
09:02:14 <Lintor> slave ships is the new one right?
09:02:21 <Lintor> eh i needs sleep
09:02:45 <Lintor> but i would llove to do in the future when avatar the wesome has it preped
09:27:44 <Avatar> skill focus
09:36:32 <Mekkis> Finished Civ V on Deity!
09:36:40 <Mekkis> Diplomatic Victory
10:40:08 <s_gmusic> you can put weapons inside of a bag of holding right?
12:33:21 <Avatar> gg
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15:24:49 <Avatar> yep
15:25:18 <Avatar> Mekkis: don't think so, where's that?
15:40:56 <s_gmusic> hm... thought I read in one of the bag's descriptions that you couldn't.
15:41:44 <Avatar> !item bag of holding
15:41:48 <diebot> Avatar, BAG OF DEVOURING [strong conjuration] CL:17 none 0gp, 15lb
15:41:48 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/bag_of_devouring.html
15:42:05 <s_gmusic> next question: would Teleport effects work from within the bag to outside of it? could I stash a bunch of +1 Calling [Weapons] in a Bag of Holding (or Handy Haversack) and Call them as needed?
15:42:09 <Avatar> looks like it'll devour it
15:42:33 <Avatar> "sharp objects can pierce it"
15:42:40 <Avatar> I don't think that happens unless it's done directly to it
15:42:57 <Avatar> that line is intended for if you need to break it open or get out of it
15:43:02 <Avatar> not just for storing sharp objects in it
15:43:46 <Avatar> teleport should work
15:45:45 <s_gmusic> part of bag of holding description on d20pfsrd: " if sharp objects pierce it (from inside or outside), "
15:45:55 <s_gmusic> so no weapons inside unless sheathed. :(
15:46:54 <Avatar> that's if someone is inside trying to slice it open
15:47:07 <Avatar> or outside doing the same thing
15:47:51 <s_gmusic> was thinking of a fighter character that would do just that, carry an arsenal of weapons and then teleport them in hand as needed. would be expensive, but being a walking weapon shop could be funny.
15:49:24 <Avatar> putting calling on them wouldn't be cheap?
15:49:50 <Avatar> is that a +1 enchantment
15:50:27 <s_gmusic> yeah, so I'd be buying a bunch of +2 weapons.
15:51:05 <Avatar> do you have that kind of spare change
15:51:24 <s_gmusic> It would be something to work towards.
15:51:28 <s_gmusic> ..>
15:51:31 <s_gmusic> <.<
15:56:56 <Avatar> good luck with that
15:57:22 <Avatar> there's a game of slave ships of absalom happening in 15 minutes if you're keen
17:10:06 <Mekkis> Writing a proof of concept exploit for software deficiencies labeled "will not fix," while effective, isn't acceptable.Writing a proof of concept exploit for software deficiencies labeled "will not fix," while effective, isn't acceptable.
17:10:42 <Mekkis> It's not appropriate or necessary to threaten to replace someone with a few hundred lines of code, though technically feasible.
17:40:33 <Avatar> there's a guy in our party who's playing a ninja, and in hangouts, his webcam is on and he's wearing a black shirt and black cap
17:40:40 <Avatar> so he is basically a ninja in real life
18:03:34 <Mekkis> umm...
18:03:52 <Mekkis> you know that it takes a little more than a black shirt and cap to be a ninja... don't you?
18:04:39 <Avatar> he speaks with a good tien accent too
18:04:46 <Avatar> can I use toppling spell from a magic missile wand?
18:05:15 <Mekkis> not in Pathfinder, yet, unless they've released a certain feat/item that Tsun was abusing back in Squirrel's Run
18:05:24 <Mekkis> !findchar Tsun
18:05:33 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Tsun. number: 178( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=178 )
18:05:46 <Avatar> I don't think I've thought through how I'm going to deal with encounters and my limited selection of spells
18:06:02 <Mekkis> Simple.
18:06:16 <Mekkis> Wait.
18:07:34 <Avatar> you're not flatfooted if you're prone, are you
18:07:38 <Mekkis> nope
18:07:43 <Avatar> kind of silly!
18:08:04 <Mekkis> don't waste your money on a wand of magic missiles: it'll be useless once you hit level 3
18:08:09 <Mekkis> What feat should my skillmonkey eidolon get?
18:08:41 <Avatar> I am already level 3
18:08:49 <Avatar> this character had GM credit on it
18:08:53 <Mekkis> and you're still running out of spells?
18:09:08 <Avatar> well I will be in short order
18:09:27 <Avatar> 4 magic missiles doesn't go a long way in a day
18:09:46 <Mekkis> true: consider spells that have more of an impact
18:10:33 <Avatar> those magic missiles have the most impact
18:10:40 <Avatar> they are the definition of 'impact' in fact
18:10:47 <Mekkis> heh
18:12:19 <Mekkis> hehe. Brock got caught in a flamewar
18:19:49 <Mekkis> what I mean is that your wizard should consider finding a spell that has a more lasting impact - one that gives you several rounds' worth of effect for a single slot - at least at lower levels, where you are burning through slots a fair amount
18:20:14 <Avatar> I've got glitterdust and create pit
18:21:51 <Mekkis> well, just ration it, remember that there's no shame in delaying a lot.
18:22:12 <Mekkis> remember to buy the shovel.
18:24:36 <Avatar> shovel?
18:24:48 <Avatar> is that the staff
18:25:51 <Mekkis> no, it's the expensive material focus for Create Pit. Without it, you can't cast the spell.
18:33:33 <Avatar> what value does the spell component pouch carry
18:34:34 <Mekkis> only things with negligible value
18:34:51 <Mekkis> unless you buy it and note it on your sheet
18:35:51 <Avatar> so any gp value has to be purchased
18:35:55 <Avatar> that does make sense
18:36:21 <Avatar> does it have to be noted on your sheet? don't you just spend the gp when you cast it
18:36:29 <Avatar> is there a ruling somewhere on that
18:36:39 <Mekkis> it's a focus
18:36:45 <Mekkis> you don't lose it when casting
18:36:52 <Mekkis> and the rule is in the core rulebook
18:37:48 <Avatar> skill focus
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18:42:31 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sat Oct 11 19:46:41 2014
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18:46:36 <Mekkis> Finished Civ V on Deity!
18:46:44 <Mekkis> Diplomatic Victory
19:11:08 <Avatar> where?
19:12:47 <Mekkis> moin
19:13:55 <Mekkis> Focus (F): A focus component is a prop of some sort.
19:13:55 <Mekkis> Unlike a material component, a focus is not consumed
19:13:55 <Mekkis> when the spell is cast and can be reused. As with
19:13:55 <Mekkis> material components, the cost for a focus is negligible
19:13:55 <Mekkis> unless a price is given. Assume that focus components of
19:13:55 <Mekkis> negligible cost are in your spell component pouch.
19:13:58 <Mekkis> p214
19:27:47 <Lintor> herro
20:06:42 <Mekkis> Wo ist Brunius` unt Raine?
20:12:58 <Avatar> <?deafened
20:12:58 <diebot> A deafened character cannot hear. He takes a 4 penalty on initiative checks, automatically fails Perception checks based on sound, takes a 4 penalty on opposed Perception checks, and has a 20% chance of spell failure when casting spells with verbal components. Characters who remain deafened for a long time grow accustomed to these drawbacks and can
20:12:59 <diebot> overcome some of them.
20:16:08 <Lintor> what ya up to avatar
20:26:51 <Mekkis> !findchar nameless one
20:26:55 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: nameless one.
20:27:12 <Avatar> slave ships of absalom
20:27:18 <Mekkis> !findchar nameless one
20:27:19 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: nameless one.
20:27:31 <Lintor> cool
20:28:23 <Avatar> we've got a really terrible party mix
20:28:32 <Avatar> two wizards, a ninja and an investigator
20:29:20 <Lintor> ewwwww
20:29:22 <Avatar> I was going to play a paladin except he's level 4 and these guys are all level 1, and damion pulled out of the game after unicon
20:29:51 <Lintor> anyone know what issues he had?
20:30:28 <Lintor> he seemed fine all con had not heard a single complaint from him then all the sudden boom facebook leaving message
20:48:49 <Avatar> <?blinded
20:48:49 <diebot> The creature cannot see. It takes a 2 penalty to Armor Class, loses its Dexterity bonus to AC (if any), and takes a 4 penalty on most Strength- and Dexterity-based skill checks and on opposed Perception skill checks. All checks and activities that rely on vision (such as reading and Perception checks based on sight) automatically fail. All
20:48:49 <diebot> opponents are considered to have total concealment (50% miss chance) against the blinded character. Blind creatures must make a DC 10 Acrobatics skill check to move faster than half speed. Creatures that fail this check fall prone. Characters who remain blinded for a long time grow accustomed to these drawbacks and can overcome some of them.
21:03:56 <Avatar> Lintor: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rkef?I-Choose-to-Stay-Dead
21:04:40 <Mekkis> again, since he removed all his reviews, I don't know what issues he had
21:04:56 <Mekkis> That being said, I think Philderbeast's comments are really uncalled for
21:06:42 <Mekkis> "Reading some other the other reviews you wrote, it appears half your issue is with some of the GM's you have played with, and knowing some of the Gm's in Melbourne I'm not particularly surprised. the other half is poor scenarios and unfortunately that's going to happen."
21:08:33 <Mekkis> you know, it's like the GMs in Melbourne actually try to encourage roleplaying. What the hell guys?
21:10:40 <Mekkis> Case in point: Shadow's last stand II. He walks into a tavern, goes up to the bartender. "I intimidate him to get information about the Spider. I get a 32."
21:10:52 <Mekkis> "What are you actually doing?"
21:10:57 <Mekkis> "I'm intimidating him"
21:11:02 <Mekkis> "But how.."
21:11:08 <Mekkis> ...
21:11:25 <Mekkis> (turns out that that noone in the tavern has the information in the first place)
21:16:51 <Avatar> oh wow I didn't notice that
21:33:53 <Lintor> yeah listing death issues and then refrencing bone keep is a bit of a joke. all the melbourne Gm's really ram home how lethal those games are ment to be as well
21:43:25 <Avatar> gg
21:45:27 <Lintor> hmmm i think i maybe a jerk because bone keep no sympathy. the special was prehaps my fav special so far and every other table got the idea to bail so i think its on him. throaty mermaid how the hell do you die in box text in that mermaid was fun and easy from what i remember. i figure d he must have had a ashley scale shafting.
21:46:14 <Avatar> two tables didn't make it out
21:46:18 <Avatar> not sure what happened to the 1-2 table
21:47:18 <Avatar> shaun does run deadly scenarios
21:47:40 <Lintor> the 1-2 didn't leave so the got stoned
21:48:15 <Lintor> the high table didnt ether except spam who told them i dont care i am leaving laters
21:49:20 <Avatar> I just don't think the end can really be seen as that bad
21:49:29 <Avatar> if it was a 16 prestige recovery, that might be a different story
21:49:43 <Avatar> but the final act isn't even terribly difficult
21:50:10 <Avatar> you can lose every single encounter to not gain any successes and still get out of there okay
21:50:14 <Lintor> yeah a 2 pp recovery makes it sorta oh well i dun goofed lets not do that again lvl
21:50:39 <Avatar> damion said he expected there to be something after the time ran out
21:51:08 <Avatar> not sure who to apply my stonelords credit to
21:51:14 <Avatar> it sounded like andrei communicated it the same way at every table
21:51:21 <Avatar> my table was well aware of it
21:51:24 <Avatar> too many characters
21:51:35 <Lintor> they brow beat you with warnings as well. i feel that was all on his table. i think we were first or second to call it. that may have happened because i told my table i am leaving have fun continuing without me if you wanna keep going
21:51:47 <Avatar> I don't think daniel or jena would've suggested they're fine with time
21:52:17 <Lintor> they didn't spam left on jenas table he said you guys are stupid and left so he got to live
21:52:31 <Avatar> I think they were coming up to the room with the trapped dwarves when the 5 minute warning came around
21:52:35 <Avatar> so they felt they had to help them
21:53:03 <Avatar> who is spam
21:53:11 <Lintor> nathan
21:53:17 <Lintor> one of the geelong guys
21:54:42 <Mekkis> we did it pretty quickly
21:54:54 <Mekkis> (also killed the big bad)
21:55:17 <Mekkis> avatar, have you prepped any season 6 stuff?
21:56:18 <Avatar> no, I only played trial by machine at unicon and slave ships just now
21:56:36 <Avatar> do you want me to
21:57:14 <Lintor> ;) slave ships sounds fun
21:57:24 <Avatar> ha
21:57:31 <Avatar> 1-5
21:57:45 <Avatar> do you still want to play heresy 2
22:03:41 <Lintor> i am currently making a brand new lvl 1. i got john d challenged
22:05:09 <Lintor> anyway i heading off
22:05:14 <Lintor> later all
22:05:18 <Avatar> gg
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22:28:28 <Mekkis> Can't be too hard
22:47:46 <Mekkis> Avatar, I still want to play Heresy 2 and 3
22:48:05 <Mekkis> I was more asking about the prepping experience of season 6 stuff
22:50:56 <Avatar> yeah cool
22:57:15 <Avatar> tier 3-4 gold is sort of made for level 3 and not so much 4
23:04:42 <Lintor> how are people
23:05:17 <s_gmusic> s'alright.
23:05:25 <s_gmusic> seems people are slowly disappearing.
23:06:43 <Lintor> well that does happen gettingg on a bit here
23:12:17 <Avatar> nobody is disappearing
23:12:20 <Avatar> it's 11pm
23:14:00 <Lintor> i did say it was getting on a bit
23:14:09 <Lintor> how are you anyway avatar
23:14:24 <Avatar> lovin' it
23:14:40 <Avatar> just boiled my kettle over with vinegar, spilled over my kitchen bench
23:15:27 <Lintor> well at least vinegar is a cleaning product
23:41:23 <Avatar> true dat
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23:42:54 <fletcher> why kick me from big brother?
23:45:19 <Avatar> I thought you were a bot
23:45:42 * Avatar sets ban on *!*@121.216.8134AE.B52362
23:45:42 Avatar has kicked fletcher from #d&d (when come back, bring pie!)
23:51:40 <ishmael> hello