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00:00:15 <Ampera> they also are very fun to squeeze until their eyes explode out their face
00:00:31 <Ampera> not that I'd know
00:00:41 <LordGeir> Lol
00:04:21 <electrohead> o/
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01:35:57 <electrohead> https://imgur.com/gallery/7DwpalP
01:35:57 <EEVBot> [url] Majestic Bengal - GIF on Imgur | imgur.com
01:54:01 <K> cat
01:56:12 <electrohead> https://imgur.com/gallery/WN1rEaI
01:56:13 <EEVBot> [url] This is Bob. He likes scritches. - GIF on Imgur | imgur.com
01:56:17 <electrohead> cow.
02:09:49 <T3sl4> be like bob
02:10:16 <K> buhb
02:10:37 * T3sl4 Microsoft Bobs electrohead
02:11:01 * electrohead gets bob'd
02:12:50 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/IEHbKfv.jpeg
02:18:32 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/NbDgbdM
02:18:32 <EEVBot> [url] Music Memes - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
02:21:37 <rust1> moarningxs
02:22:06 <Ampera> hello rust1
02:22:13 <rust1> hEy!
02:22:14 <Ampera> how is your gradual oxidation going
02:22:44 <rust1> it is doing ok, I think. I do not seem to get much younger
02:39:25 <DHess_US> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lake-mead-lake-powell-dead-pool-status-un-power-water-shortages/
02:39:25 <EEVBot> [url] Millions at risk of power and water shortages as two of the nation's largest reservoirs on the brink of "dead pool status," U.N. warns - CBS News | www.cbsnews.com
02:42:31 <DHess_US> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/spain-air-conditioning-ac-80-degrees-bars-offices-shops-heat-wave-energy-costs/?intcid=CNI-00-10aaa3a
02:42:32 <EEVBot> [url] Spain bans offices, bars and shops from setting AC below 80 degrees - CBS News | www.cbsnews.com
02:42:34 <DHess_US> I set mine at 82
03:11:07 * jaymax give DHess_US 1 Blink to that
03:12:40 <T3sl4> i wonder what happened to the other 181 blinks
03:25:20 <Ampera> it's all a blur
03:28:27 * T3sl4 bjorks Ampera
03:28:47 <Ampera> you're so full of your sElf
03:30:30 <T3sl4> so shelf-ish
03:30:49 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw6bgdJlth0
03:30:49 <EEVBot> [url] Days Of The New - Shelf In The Room (Official Video) - YouTube | www.youtube.com
03:30:53 <rust1> more elf
03:32:05 * T3sl4 objdump's rust1
03:47:52 * LordGeir binwalks T3sl4
03:53:08 * electrohead objdump's LordGeir
03:53:24 * electrohead pulls on T3sl4's strings
03:54:29 * LordGeir installs XP Home 32 bit on electrohead's 1.7GHz Celeron with 256MB RAM and no GPU
03:54:51 <electrohead> lol
03:55:12 <electrohead> speaking of, I've acquired some older hardware recently, want to get win95 or win98 running on it :D
03:55:29 <LordGeir> Oohh!!!
03:55:35 <rust1> 98se
03:55:44 <LordGeir> Millennium :P
03:56:01 <rust1> that is not 95 or 98?
03:56:24 <LordGeir> I'm currently installing XP SP3 Professional on one of the computers I picked up last weekend
03:56:51 <LordGeir> Millennium was the one between 98 and 2000, iirc
03:57:03 <rust1> I think it is interesting how much more bloat xp got, after the service packs
03:58:15 <electrohead> just took a look - they are two compaq deskpro's
03:59:26 <LordGeir> I have one HP and one Dell
03:59:45 <jaymax> Win95: 4.0; Win98/98se: 4.1; Win2000: NT5.0; WinME: 4.2; WinXP: 5.1; Vista: 5.2; Win7: 6.0
04:00:02 <LordGeir> The HP is Pentium Dual 1.8GHz
04:00:49 <electrohead> oh wait, I have three of them; one is a deskpro EN, the other two are these massive desktop units
04:01:12 <electrohead> and I have plenty of RAM and hard drives from other units that I yanked
04:01:19 <electrohead> so, I shall have fun one of these days
04:01:21 <T3sl4> arch: https://i.imgur.com/EzSp12P.jpg
04:01:36 <electrohead> !giphy no you're a towel
04:01:37 <EEVBot> electrohead: https://media0.giphy.com/media/oxFDq4E9CHb7W/giphy.gif?cid=28c3c3c8c9c264cf202badd30fc37ff7b5977fa4f2266cb6&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
04:01:49 <electrohead> uhh, ok
04:01:51 <electrohead> lol
04:01:54 <LordGeir> 99% of users hated on ME so bad, but I ran it on a computer from just after it's release until 2 or 3 years after 2k was releases (when I upgraded). Never had a single issue
04:02:53 <jaymax> It was a psychological downgrade for power users in the know.
04:03:12 <jaymax> Everyone else didn't care - rightly so.
04:03:56 <LordGeir> ME had a LOT of bugs, for sure, so a lot of the complaints were warranted
04:05:02 <jaymax> It was Win98 that tried to hard pushing MSN addins further than ever necessary - while Windows 2000 was never sold for home use.
04:05:21 * jaymax loved Win2000 however.
04:06:14 <jaymax> Better windows version than XP - which WinXP was the compomise across all groups - and something internet-appropriate for the home.
04:06:26 * rust1 never used anything before xp, except 3.something wjen I was short
04:07:13 <LordGeir> I was also a huge Win2k lover! I never got XP or Vista, kept running 2k until I was "forced" to upgrade to 8
04:07:15 <jaymax> WFW3.11 is probably my longtime favourite. But I'm a Luser now.
04:07:49 <LordGeir> I liked both 3.01 and 3.11
04:08:11 <LordGeir> Wasn't it 3.11 that came on like 10 floppies for a complete install?
04:08:20 <jaymax> Turned to Linux the second time when even XP was no longer practical for newer hardware.
04:08:30 <jaymax> WFW3.11 LordGeir
04:08:34 <LordGeir> Which is what <35MB
04:08:50 <jaymax> The 7 base floppies, and the 3 networking floppies
04:09:37 <LordGeir> I never really used the workgroups or networking on that. Only had the one computer...
04:10:04 * jaymax NetBEUI'd with 10Base2 coax
04:10:10 <LordGeir> Our very first PC in house, was a Commodore PC/20, and it had a huge hdd of 40MB
04:10:38 <jaymax> But there was the TCP/IP stack avavaile as a separate driver, too
04:10:39 <LordGeir> Ran some version of DOS, absolutely no GUI
04:11:01 <LordGeir> I wish I had kept that computer
04:11:48 <rust1> most of the stuff I used on the w3.xx machine, just used dos, so it was not often I started windows on it
04:12:38 <jaymax> I had a few Windows applications ... Novell WordPerfect 6 for instance
04:13:17 <jaymax> Cheyenne Bitware
04:13:57 <jaymax> Microsoft Entertainment Pack since I was also an anklebiter
04:15:03 Join: Nothing\ ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
04:15:20 <Nothing\> heh i was just reading an interesting reddit anecdote (probably a true one) while i was on the can
04:16:01 <Nothing\> a guy who worked for a telecoms company providing tech support for their T-carrier division... in 1991
04:16:59 <rust1> WOW!
04:17:46 <Nothing\> there were 4 people in the department including him, and one day he came in to find 2 of his guys were for some reason allowed to go on vacation at the same time, and the other called in sick. So he was left to do the work of all them and managed to do so after skipping his breaks etc and his boss congratulated him on a job well done
04:18:25 <Nothing\> then told him he couldn't get paid for the overtime because it wasn't approved by corporate. They wound up coming to a gentleman's agreement where in lieu of the pay, he would be allowed to leave an hour early every friday for some aomunt of time.
04:19:20 <Nothing\> come next friday he was due to clock out at 3:30, 3pm one of their biggest T3 lines goes down and he's still the only one in the office, left to handle the conference call with the customer etc
04:19:39 * electrohead beers rust1
04:19:41 <electrohead> you need this
04:19:47 <jaymax> Sounds like a r/antiwork myth
04:19:47 <EEVBot> [reddit] https://reddit.com/r/antiwork | 2,124,765 subscribers | Created at 2013-08-14 - 13:08:39UTC | A subreddit for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.
04:19:52 <rust1> thanks
04:20:19 * rust1 rubs beer in his eyes
04:20:36 <Nothing\> he was the only one who knew anything about troubleshooting T3 so again it was all on him. So he's working through the call, then right at 3:28 he says "sorry I've gotta end this now. My shift's over and I'm not approved for any over time. But the next shift will be in in about 90 minutes. You can continue working with them." and proceeded to clock out
04:21:02 <Nothing\> on his way to his car his pager blew up with messages saying he was approved for overtime, but as he put it he was already clocked out, so he took his wife out for a much needed date instead
04:21:24 <Nothing\> meanwhile the guy on the next shift had never even troubleshot a T3 before-
04:21:26 <Nothing\> lol
04:21:46 <Nothing\> he musta had that company by the short and curlies though because he went on to work for them for another 4-5 years apparently.
04:22:16 <Nothing\> jaymax, it's an amusing anecdote. And that's all in needs to be.
04:22:25 <Nothing\> *it
04:22:39 <jaymax> Well, the contributors on that sub live in fantasy-land spinning up grand stories of commupence.
04:22:51 <Nothing\> what sub?
04:22:58 <Nothing\> i didn't even say what sub it was out of
04:23:03 <jaymax> Sounds like a r/antiwork myth
04:23:04 <EEVBot> [reddit] https://reddit.com/r/antiwork | 2,124,768 subscribers | Created at 2013-08-14 - 13:08:39UTC | A subreddit for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.
04:23:09 <Nothing\> jaymax, never heard of it
04:23:12 <jaymax> ^
04:23:17 <Nothing\> this was for people in telecoms
04:23:24 <Nothing\> i forget the sub but that was the general theme
04:23:26 <rust1> he just linked to it twice, so...
04:23:31 <jaymax> ^
04:23:36 <jaymax> LOL
04:23:37 <Nothing\> rust1, so buttons
04:23:48 <rust1> BUTTON!
04:23:54 <Nothing\> yeah
04:23:56 <Nothing\> BUTTON YOU!
04:23:59 <jaymax> Butttons and Rusty?!?
04:24:04 <rust1> click click click
04:24:08 <Nothing\> buttons to rusty!
04:24:18 <Nothing\> lol i'm gonna start saying that
04:24:22 <Nothing\> like heavens to betsy
04:24:26 * jaymax leaves
04:24:33 * Nothing\ branches
04:24:41 * Nothing\ roots
04:24:46 * Nothing\ stems
04:24:59 <Nothing\> man there are a lot of verbs that have to do with parts of a plant
04:25:12 <Nothing\> vegetative...ize
04:25:12 * rust1 uploads / to github, just to see how that works
04:25:24 <Nothing\> i hate github
04:25:35 <Nothing\> i can never figure out how the hell to download what i'm trying to get
04:25:47 <rust1> the files?
04:25:48 <Nothing\> i end up with the source code or some crap on a text file in my browser
04:25:52 <Nothing\> yeah that too
04:25:58 <Nothing\> i end up with a file listing instead
04:26:02 <rust1> no, you download the files
04:26:08 <Nothing\> yeah but how
04:26:13 <Nothing\> there's no obvious way to do so
04:26:14 <rust1> you click the download button?
04:26:22 <Nothing\> there's no download button
04:26:33 <Nothing\> at least not for the binaries
04:26:35 <rust1> oh, then you have the wrong adblocker
04:26:36 <Nothing\> you can download the source
04:26:43 <Nothing\> you can download one file at a time from the directory listing
04:26:49 <Nothing\> but you can't download the whole lot
04:26:55 <Nothing\> at least not in one easy go
04:27:01 <rust1> that depends on what the guy who uploaded it put in there
04:27:08 <Nothing\> rust1, it's not the adblocker it's the site
04:27:15 <rust1> I know
04:27:38 <rust1> but yes, it was probably designed to be used with git... so that can have something to do with it
04:27:53 <Nothing\> rust1, yeah any time i look at things on there like i said all i get is either an FTP index type directory listing where you can download the files in similar fashion to using ftp:// in your browser. Or just a single download button for the source code.
04:28:04 <Nothing\> the hell is git?
04:28:16 <rust1> it is a tool
04:28:18 <Nothing\> other than half a word i remember from my childhood
04:28:58 <rust1> https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Git
04:28:59 <EEVBot> [url] Git - Wikiwand | www.wikiwand.com
04:29:28 <Nothing\> my brother would say "hey, you wanna meet my friend melvin?" to 5 year old me and I'd say sure! and he'd tell me to go look out the window, at which point he would rip off my shirt and start beating me with it while shrieking the melody from a mozart song at me because it was "for a car commercial"
04:29:34 <Nothing\> what were we talking about?
04:29:56 <rust1> adblockers
04:29:59 <Nothing\> yeah
04:30:06 <Nothing\> that was definitely poor adblockers
04:30:09 <Nothing\> i'll give you that one
04:30:25 <Nothing\> that's how they used to harvest data from customers
04:30:29 <Nothing\> just beat them with their own shirt
04:32:15 <Nothing\> man, i was thinking earlier about an unfortunate thing that happened with one of my friends about a decade or more ago
04:33:31 <Nothing\> he had custody of his 2 year old daughter for the weekend and he took heavy painkillers and apparently dropped one (or more) while he was taking them. She got hold of it, and died in her sleep. And he was sent to prison for something along the lines of negligence causing death.
04:33:50 <Nothing\> not to mention he was turned into a social pariah and had to move to a new county etc etc
04:34:32 <Nothing\> but I was thinking about that digoxin overdose story i was telling you about yesterday. And I guarantee if the drug was anything other than an opiate he would have been treated MUCH different.
04:35:05 <Nothing\> not that it's something people exactly research but you don't usually hear about parents being sent to jail because their toddler accidentally got into their medication
04:35:17 <Nothing\> that was common as hell back before the 2000s
04:35:55 <Nothing\> although, that's assuming his story is true. Which tbh even I don't buy.
04:36:29 <Nothing\> he wasn't a bad guy, but he was a drug user and actually unfortunately he learned about abusing that particular medication from me.
04:37:08 <Nothing\> which, it's very likely if he was snorting it for instance that he could have even just left enough residue behind if he didn't wipe the table down or whatever for it to be fatal for such a small child.
04:37:39 <Nothing\> although i'm sure if he was abusing it there would have been evidence of it upon investigation and the judge would have immediately called his story into question.
04:37:57 <Nothing\> and he was never as out of control with things as i was
04:39:31 <electrohead> hrmm
04:39:35 <electrohead> r/blaahhh
04:39:51 <electrohead> test r/blaahhh test
04:39:56 <Nothing\> heh
04:40:08 <electrohead> test r/videos test
04:40:11 <EEVBot> [reddit] https://reddit.com/r/videos | 26,541,617 subscribers | Created at 2008-01-24 - 22:37:16EST | Reddit's main subreddit for videos.Please read the sidebar below for our rules.
04:40:14 <electrohead> nice
04:40:14 <Nothing\> i forgot i was gonna learn to play the themes from the NES game Ice Climber on piano
04:40:22 <Nothing\> such a great pair of tunes
04:40:38 * electrohead detunes Nothing\
04:40:39 <rust1> I remember that game
04:40:56 <rust1> not the tunes
04:40:56 <Nothing\> rust1, heh i could never get it to work on emulators so i was never able to really play it until i got it on my Wii
04:41:07 <Nothing\> rust1, oh man i've gotta jog your memory
04:41:26 <rust1> no, you got to get a nes
04:42:23 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8y2p0d8ZRw
04:42:24 <EEVBot> [url] Ice Climber (NES) Music - Title Theme - YouTube | www.youtube.com
04:42:30 <Nothing\> rust1, i had 5 NES's
04:42:33 <Nothing\> they all got fucked
04:42:45 <Nothing\> stolen, lost, broken you name it
04:42:54 <rust1> well, now that you quit having sex, they will last much longer
04:43:05 <Nothing\> literally tens of thousands of dollars of games from my childhood just POOF gone because of a dipshit brother
04:43:23 <Nothing\> fuck it's times like this i really want to tear my brother's arm off and cave his skull in with it
04:43:35 * Nothing\ breathes
04:43:39 <Nothing\> oooooh
04:43:43 <Nothing\> is that what i was doing wrong?
04:43:49 <Nothing\> man this is so much better than not breathing
04:43:53 <rust1> I wonder if it could be
04:44:25 <Nothing\> actually, i found a playstation 1 up in the spare room
04:44:29 <Nothing\> i have no clue where it came from
04:44:56 <Nothing\> i think it's my mum's actually lol. She bought one at a garage sale with some pinball games because she's a fan of pinball. But it just wound up collecting dust.
04:45:20 <Nothing\> typical mum, never been much of a game. At least not until she discovered mah jong on her tablet. Now she's as bad as I was when I was a kid.
04:45:56 <Nothing\> "alright mum you ready to go?" "yeah yeah just a second i can't pause this! Let me finish this level first"
04:46:02 <Nothing\> it's ironic, really.
04:47:44 <Nothing\> but yeah i dunno what's up with the ROM for Ice Climber but every emulator i've used with it has had horrible graphical glitches. Which you usually only get problems like that if a cartridge uses a strange chipset the emulator doesn't understand. But there's no reason Ice Climber should even need any chipset outside of the standard CHROM and PRGROM chips. Being an early game I'm pretty sure it only used a 16K ROM.
04:47:56 <Nothing\> i should look into that
04:48:06 <Nothing\> see just wtf weird ass-mapper this thing uses
04:49:03 <Nothing\> aha! a breadcrumb
04:49:14 <Nothing\> the nametable is all jumbled
04:49:43 <Nothing\> ooh i forgot this has PPU debugging
04:50:22 <Nothing\> i also realized i think ice climber may be the first vertical scrolling platformer ever
04:50:59 <Nothing\> which the fact that a game could even just scroll back in 1984 was an amazing thing. Most games up to this point just had 1 screen.
04:51:57 <Nothing\> heh it's funny though. Playing Super Smash Bros, it's got themed levels and music from all of their big franchises and classic games and it just makes me want to play those games more than smash bros.
04:53:27 <LordGeir> Nothing\: I bought some new earplugs today, the kind that "covers" the ear canal but does not go into the ear canal
04:53:42 <LordGeir> Should be interesting to see if I get a better result
04:54:45 <Nothing\> rofl wtf
04:54:59 <Nothing\> my cat was just chewing a hole in one of my mum's magazines
04:55:17 <Nothing\> i don't think he was happy that she wasn't paying attention to him
04:55:31 <Nothing\> LordGeir, those are garbage tbh
04:55:39 <Nothing\> sorry i should have mentioned what kind to get
04:55:48 <LordGeir> Cats are adorable, but very weird at times
04:55:52 <Nothing\> i mean those type are sufficient, but they're a ripoff and not very effective
04:56:22 <LordGeir> I can't have any of the kind that goes into the canal, because that destroys the little sleep I do get...
04:56:42 <Nothing\> what I do is I buy a box of 200 pairs of 3M brand E-A-R brand earplugs, those little yellow foam ones. I get them from an industrial supply company for about $30 a box. Each pair's good for a couple of nights so it lasts almost a year.
04:57:07 <Nothing\> plus being foam and not a hard plastic, they're more comfortable. Because wearing earplugs through the night even with foam can be painful if you sleep on your side.
04:57:20 <Nothing\> lol or the worst is when my ear gets itchy inside
04:57:31 <Nothing\> even without earplugs that's an annoying sensation
04:57:50 <LordGeir> I used them as well, but they wake me up several times every time I use them, because they're irritating my ears :(
04:58:21 <LordGeir> The ones I bought today are designed for sleep and are made of wax that molds to the ear (supposedly)
04:58:49 <Nothing\> LordGeir, ah I see. If that's the case then, I know they at least USED TO make these "earplug" that were basically a lump of moldable plastic you stuff into your ear. Not the canal, butt the little "cup" scructure surrounding the entrance to the canal.
04:59:12 <Nothing\> LordGeir, yeah that molding to the ear thing doesn't work
04:59:20 <Nothing\> your ear canal is surprisingly twisty
04:59:33 <Nothing\> although i'm still imagining one you insert into your ear
04:59:56 <LordGeir> That's the kind I got. Goes a couple of millimeters into the ear, but stays in the "cup" you described
05:00:04 <Nothing\> ah i gotcha
05:00:20 <Nothing\> well i hope they help with a minimum of side effects.
05:00:24 <rust1> you are different. if they work, then..thery work
05:00:43 <Nothing\> yup
05:00:58 <LordGeir> Crossing my fingers that they block as much as they can
05:01:22 <Nothing\> it's a craps shoot if you can't stick them into your ear canal. But it'll be better than nothing.
05:01:33 <LordGeir> Especially my rooster crowing every morning at 4:30-4:45 and keeps it going for a couple of hours
05:01:44 <Nothing\> a craps shoot as to how effective they'll be, that is. But they will mitigate sound one way or the other at least.
05:01:56 <Nothing\> ah jeez
05:02:04 <Nothing\> sounds like somebody needs to have his vocal cords clipped
05:02:05 <Nothing\> lol
05:02:33 <Nothing\> but man i kind of envy you for waking up to that
05:02:41 <LordGeir> Heh, either that, or we'll be having chicken casserole for dinner some time soon :P
05:02:44 <Nothing\> even though i usually go to bed about 2 hours AFTER that would happen
05:02:59 <Nothing\> is it really wise to eat a rooster?
05:03:27 <Nothing\> also they're pretty ornery little things. As I understand it they try to eviscerate anything red.
05:04:07 <Nothing\> I remember an amusing tale, complete with pictures, about how farmers had to make tiny glasses for their roosters that would prevent them from seeing red light... every single rooster.
05:04:12 <LordGeir> I was a typical B-person up until something changed about 10 years ago. Never went to bed until 4-5AM, at the earliest
05:04:34 <Nothing\> although i dunno how many roosters a farm's supposed to have. I just assumed they had one rooster who impregnated the females.
05:04:39 <LordGeir> Man, I'd love to see a picture of that!
05:05:24 <LordGeir> Depends really on how many hens. One rooster can "take care of" dozens of hens, but large farms that breed have thousands of hens
05:05:39 <Nothing\> LordGeir, I try but even when i get my circadian rhythm in sync with it, i still feel like crap all day, slugging, pissy, bitter, unmotivated. Then right at 9pm i'm bright eyed bushy tailed and ready for the world... which has now gone to bed.
05:05:54 <LordGeir> My late uncle was an egg producer and he had on average 18.000 hens
05:06:02 <Nothing\> wow
05:06:13 <Nothing\> he musta been a damn hard worker
05:06:33 <Nothing\> i mean i know he had help and all but you don't get to 18,000 hens by sitting on your ass
05:07:14 <LordGeir> My grandfather on my mothers side, his father before him, and his eldest son (my uncle) were all farmers. (Probably way further back in history too.)
05:07:30 <LordGeir> Chickens, pigs, cattle, horses
05:08:03 <Nothing\> yeah my mother's parents were farmers
05:08:15 <Nothing\> i just remember stories about him drowning sacks of kittens
05:08:20 <LordGeir> Growing potatoes in large scale along with different types of "corn"
05:08:31 <Nothing\> don't want too many farm cats, you know. As sad as it is to drown a sack of kittens.
05:08:34 <LordGeir> Or grain
05:08:40 <Nothing\> that reminds me
05:08:50 <Nothing\> apparently russia stole a shipment of grain from Ukraine lol
05:09:08 <Nothing\> after they're JUST starting to ship grain out of the country again since the war
05:09:12 <rust1> well, apparently, that was one more story that was made up
05:09:23 <LordGeir> Yeah, and they killed the CEO and head of Ukraines largest grain producers
05:09:25 <Nothing\> rust1, how's that?
05:09:40 <Nothing\> LordGeir, no shit? I didn't hear about that part
05:09:45 <rust1> the ship was registered in russia, but used by some other company
05:09:48 <Nothing\> i just saw the part about the shipment on the news
05:09:59 <LordGeir> He was killed in a large and heavy air strike
05:10:03 <Nothing\> rust1, so? ships are registered in other countries for a litany of legal reasons
05:10:10 <rust1> exactly
05:10:28 <Nothing\> rust1, that doesn't mean their cargo belongs to the country they're registered to that's just ridiculous
05:10:40 <rust1> that is my point
05:10:42 <Nothing\> that's like saying if you rent property, everything in your house belongs to your landlord
05:10:57 <Nothing\> you sounded like you were arguing the opposite
05:11:07 <LordGeir> Norway has (had) some large shipping companies, but I don't believe a single ship is actually registered in Norway
05:11:18 <LordGeir> Like Olsen and Fredriksen
05:11:30 <rust1> no, it is like saying that if you hire a car in the us, and take it home, and run over some people, the us killed a bunch of canadians
05:11:55 <Nothing\> rust1, people don't kill people. Guns kill people.
05:12:09 <rust1> ok, so maybe it was the us then
05:12:12 <Nothing\> people are incapable of doing wrong
05:12:15 <Nothing\> they don't know what it is
05:12:27 <LordGeir> Nothing\: DMX in Romeo must die :D
05:12:34 <Nothing\> huh?
05:12:53 <Nothing\> never listened to or watched either
05:13:14 <Nothing\> heh DMX though... wait didn't he die recently?
05:13:25 <Nothing\> i swear i remember him dying of covid or something
05:13:44 <LordGeir> DMX (the rapper) has a semi big role in that movie; He blasts off a mag in an AR-15 or something (after some fighting) and shouts: "Guns don't kill people; People kill people"
05:13:44 <Nothing\> yeah, last year.
05:14:14 <Nothing\> LordGeir, oh THAT quote heh. I was just being facetious.
05:14:25 <Nothing\> but yeah I guess DMX is dead. That was random.
05:14:29 <Nothing\> he wasn't even that old.
05:15:01 <LordGeir> I thought I read it was drug related or something, but I could very well be mistaken
05:15:09 <Nothing\> smoked crack since he was 14 when his friend gave him a joint laced with it
05:15:26 <rust1> not sure, but I think it was listed as covid.
05:15:35 <rust1> which can mean anything
05:16:26 <rust1> I should go inside, and see if anything breakfast related is going on
05:16:51 <LordGeir> I remember it was said to be breathing related (which is obv Covid), but there was speculation that he'd been on a binger that assisted in his demise
05:17:26 <rust1> all the bullet holes probably did nto have anything to do with it, lol
05:17:36 <LordGeir> Lol
05:18:52 <rust1> so, did you get those opamps to do anything? the 741s are from electrade, so i believe they are ok?
05:29:00 <LordGeir> rust1: I did :) Haven't tried the 358s yet, but made a sig gen with one of the 324s
05:29:33 <LordGeir> I've only got it breadboarded for now, but as soon as I find an enclosure I like, I'll be building it into that
05:29:55 <rust_collector> cool
05:32:18 <rust_collector> I am thinking I should do something with my little load thingie this evening. we will see
05:36:12 <rust_collector> I wonder if this little pentium 3 heat sink will be good enough for this. I think it will, but I have no idea, lol
05:53:15 <Nothing\> LordGeir, heh i was just tihking of doing a project today that would use some lm358s
05:53:20 <Nothing\> but just as buffers, nothing fancy
05:54:16 <Nothing\> i just wanted a setup where i have like one main oscillator, and then a series of frequency dividers that are each tapped and buffered, then sent off to switches to be played as musical notes over a speaker
05:55:05 <Nothing\> i've got LITERALLY oodles of multiplexers, en/decoders and switch ICs, I might as well do something with them.
05:55:43 <Nothing\> i went through a period where i bought just about every 4000/7400 and some odd LM/ULN etc chips that I could get my hands on you know, just in case.
05:56:35 <Nothing\> but most of what i wound up getting was just various types of switching circuits. Just ordering random ICs on aliexpress without even checking what they are because they're only like 10 cents each.
05:57:15 <Nothing\> oddly enough the ones that are actually useful are still actually kind of pricy, even on aliexpress
05:57:27 <Nothing\> like the 7400 series ALUs were about $25 for a pack of 10
05:57:40 <Nothing\> likewise for the adders and digital comparators
05:58:05 <Nothing\> heh the register modules i got though were like $5 for 100
05:59:12 <Nothing\> i had been planning on making a breadboard computer but kind got sidetracked from that plan after a few months of learning and tinkering
06:00:10 <Nothing\> and also a lot of struggling with shitty gear from aliexpress where i don't know if my circuit's not working because of a problem with the parts, or something i did. Ends up taking like a week just to figure out that I've got a jiggly power switch on my battery holder
06:00:49 <Nothing\> or if the wires don't fit snuggly in the breadboard and you get a spotty connection if something's moved
06:12:16 <Nothing\> oooh perseids are coming up
06:12:46 <Nothing\> not that i'm gonna see them with these constant thunderstorms
06:15:22 <rust_collector> Nothing\ but kind got sidetracked from that plan after a few months of..... so, what happened there? that usually takes about 13 seconds?
06:16:30 <rust_collector> just for fun, I looked on ebay, for smd transistors. and you could get 100 for a dollar, with no name, or any sort of specs at all. I almost got them anyway, but didn't
06:22:39 <electrohead> get them just to blow them up?
06:22:41 <electrohead> lol
06:23:37 <rust_collector> I did think I should just get them anyway, maybe they will send me a paper bird, as a bonus
06:23:53 <rust_collector> but. nah
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07:18:26 <electrohead> heh
07:18:48 <electrohead> so, I'm running yet another ethernet line under the house. it's summer time, therefore spiders and bugs going to be fucking *everywhere*
07:18:50 <electrohead> guh
07:19:30 <rust_collector> that is good. then you do not have to sleep with your mouth open, to let them sneak their way in
07:34:25 <T3sl4> steve30 and Halcyon https://imgur.com/gallery/56hnDXW
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07:44:03 <electrohead> T3sl4: awe
07:44:05 <electrohead> rust_collector: lol
07:44:21 <rust_collector> are you done crawling?
07:45:57 * T3sl4 crawls in rust_collector's skin
07:47:43 <rust_collector> oh, hello, mr gein
07:49:45 <electrohead> nah, half way done
07:49:58 <electrohead> my anxiety was rapidly increasing, due to all the spider webs
07:50:00 <electrohead> lol
07:50:41 <rust_collector> bring a few boxes of that spray string stuff, and let them see what it is like
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08:26:50 <electrohead> fucking done.
08:26:55 <electrohead> connectors are on, and all cleaned up
08:26:57 <electrohead> yays
08:28:26 <rust_collector> that was easy
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09:33:37 * electrohead films
09:35:45 <Halcyon> \o/
09:36:19 <electrohead> yo :p
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10:24:56 * electrohead films arch
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11:09:36 * T3sl4 sips optimator, beers electrohead
11:19:29 * electrohead offers steak and potatoes
11:20:13 <T3sl4> peak and stotatoes
11:20:20 <electrohead> lol
11:22:06 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXJWvs_iKXE
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11:22:22 * T3sl4 saaaausage's electrohead\
11:22:34 * electrohead squishes
11:22:52 <rust_collector> you are siiiickkkk what is wrong with yooooo
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11:31:20 <Nothing\> lol i must be tired
11:31:48 <Nothing\> to try and log on, i just pressed my start button and typed "eevblog" expecting my computer to know what i wanted
11:31:51 <Nothing\> if only
11:31:58 <Nothing\> but i ain't no powerscripter
11:32:01 <rust_collector> nah, you don't have to be?
11:32:03 <Nothing\> or even batch scripter
11:32:16 <Nothing\> rust_collector, it seems it would make it easier if i knew powerscript
11:32:22 <rust_collector> okay
11:32:31 <rust_collector> I have no idea about that stuff
11:32:33 <Nothing\> i mean sure i could probably just make a batch script an an environment variable for it
11:32:44 <Nothing\> it's just batch scripting
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11:33:11 <Nothing\> literally just writing a series of command line commands int a .bat file which your computer executes as if it were a script
11:33:11 <rust_collector> ok, but I have never done batch whatever
11:33:20 <Nothing\> simple, but useful
11:33:27 <rust_collector> so, do it!
11:33:37 <Nothing\> well .bat for windows. But you've also got BASH scripting in linux
11:33:38 <rust_collector> it is easy, said you
11:33:46 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y43BVwtQdc4
11:33:46 <EEVBot> [url] Drunk Florida Woman Arrested After Driving Golf Cart On Busy Highway - YouTube | www.youtube.com
11:33:49 <electrohead> fucking lol
11:34:04 <Nothing\> rust_collector, it is. If you can use the command line you can write a batch script
11:34:14 <Nothing\> the trick is making the damn environment variable work
11:34:41 <Nothing\> so windows knows "eevblog" means to open hexchat with whatever options it needs to connect to the server
11:34:45 <rust_collector> I have done a lot of script things in loonix, but never in windows
11:34:56 <Nothing\> it's basically the same thing
11:35:01 <Nothing\> just different methodology
11:35:36 <rust_collector> but, you can tell hexchat to open whatever channel at startup, then just start hexchat..
11:35:58 <Nothing\> i know i'm just too stuck in the past
11:36:13 <Nothing\> i never used those options in any irc client i always just wrote my own scripts to do it for me
11:36:33 <Nothing\> even though it's just a matter of clicking a few boxes probably
11:36:48 <Nothing\> actually now that i think about it i'm not sure i've ever opened the options in hexchat
11:36:49 <rust_collector> yeah, because why would you just use the built in stuff, lol
11:36:58 <Nothing\> the scripting is built in
11:37:06 <Nothing\> and why indeed
11:37:15 <Nothing\> it'll just steal my information
11:37:22 <rust_collector> yes, probably
11:37:31 <Nothing\> and spy on my while i'm on the high pot in use
11:37:56 <Nothing\> i don't want the creepy man to touch himself @ my little willy
11:37:59 <rust_collector> that is fine, you won't notice until some other day
11:38:13 <Nothing\> but i notice now
11:38:18 <Nothing\> i can hear them at night
11:38:33 <rust_collector> it is not night now?
11:38:42 <Nothing\> lol actually for the longest time i used to hear what sounded like russian radio stations at night
11:39:00 <Nothing\> not from anywhere in particular. Just sorta in the white noise i guess.
11:39:07 <Nothing\> the sound of the crickets and frogs
11:39:18 <Nothing\> it's hard to explain it was just weird
11:39:45 <Nothing\> i even used to see them when i closed my eyes. Hovering over and around me. Consulting various technical manuals and doing who knows what.
11:39:53 <Nothing\> what a strange time in my life
11:41:10 <Nothing\> lol i gave myself a damn caffeine headache
11:42:25 <Nothing\> decided i'd skip my coffee today and about an hour ago my brain suddenly felt 2 sizes too big for my skull. So I'm getting some caffeine into me now but trying not to overdo it since it's like 10pm and not at all the sort of hour you should be drinking coffee at if you want a good night's sleep
11:43:30 <Nothing\> at least caffeine's easy like that for me. I get a headache for one night and then i'm back to normal.
11:47:23 <Nothing\> somebody needs to invent shrimp flavoured bubble gum
11:47:34 <Nothing\> i feel like that's probably already a chinese thing
11:47:45 <Nothing\> or prawn flavoured
11:48:38 <rust_collector> we have a shrimp mayo "salad" and I wish they would make that without shrimp
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14:15:05 <rust1> moornings
14:27:28 <Kuschelpony> morning
14:28:44 <rust1> what sort of morning is it down there? still a bit warm?
14:33:38 <Kuschelpony> the night had some rainfall and its only 17°C outside so not warm, but inside the house is still stored 28°C and thats very sweating hot
14:34:11 <rust1> ah, perfect outside then.
14:34:28 <Kuschelpony> yes
14:34:41 <Kuschelpony> but even with the windows open no breeze
14:35:17 <Kuschelpony> otherwise, waitig for a mail to organize, hope to meet someone on the local pride parade today
14:35:27 <rust1> it is just 10 up here. but I have a feeling it will get pretty warm later.
14:35:45 <rust1> oh, ok. that is a thing to do
14:36:00 <Kuschelpony> no worries i am also here in the chat for you
14:36:07 <rust1> aaawww
14:38:00 <rust1> I managed to sleep from 5.05 to 5.30. I am not sure what I will do today. I have plenty of stuff to do, but I think it is a little bit early to make noise yet. and if I go an take a nap, I know I won't wake up until it is too late
14:39:06 <Kuschelpony> ah
14:39:21 <Kuschelpony> i was sleeping from about 21 to 3 this morning
14:39:35 <rust1> oh, I know. I will turn on the coffee maker. It is ready to go, I just did not turn it on, lol
14:40:21 <Kuschelpony> hihi
14:40:41 <Kuschelpony> yeah had my first coffee already 3 hours ago, then fall back to half-sleep
14:40:57 <rust1> OI! no laughing at me when I do dumb things...
14:41:38 <rust1> I was hoping I could sleep a bit more, so I did not go for more coffee. but, it is too late now, so I can just get started again
14:42:53 <Kuschelpony> you have no idea how much dumb things i already did, just dont worry :)
14:44:10 <Kuschelpony> mmh i really should one day get an electronics hobby emai address again and join the forum
14:44:29 <Kuschelpony> too much threads where i think i could post some comment
14:44:45 <rust1> I should go and see if anyone has posted anything on the forum in the last year or so
14:45:35 <rust1> Most of the time, when I am there, it is just because a search sends me there. it is not often I go there to read the forum, as such
14:45:55 <Kuschelpony> :)
14:46:25 <Kuschelpony> its for me part of my routine to waste the late evening in the hope to learn a bit more
14:46:39 <Kuschelpony> at least i get to know new interesting parts
14:47:55 <rust1> yes. I waste plenty of time looking at the internet. I am not sure I learn all that much, but I do get rid of the time
14:48:45 <Kuschelpony> 50% of the goal reached :)
14:49:24 <Kuschelpony> grr i lost the part number but recently saw an interesting chip from Rohm, it was something like BA1413 or so
14:50:09 <rust1> for this electronic stuff, I wonder why you either get some circuit that just can not work at all, or is full of arduinos or such things, or from india, and I can only look at the pics, because I have no idea what they are saying
14:50:26 <Kuschelpony> its a double differential amplifier built to re-reference stereo audio from one "Ground" to another
14:50:36 <Kuschelpony> mmh
14:50:40 <rust1> uhm, ok, what sort of ch
14:50:43 <rust1> oh
14:50:58 <Kuschelpony> just ask here if you see something interestig and we happily help you to decode a circuit
14:51:51 <rust1> yes, I know you will help. thanks.
14:52:30 <Kuschelpony> i dont understand why people post something shitty circuits that can barely work, but its perhaps their kind of pride to show an improvement over circuits that just burn down
14:52:55 <Kuschelpony> and arduino, im too old to understand that C-language
14:53:23 <rust1> I have seen circuits posted, that just makes a loop, and shorts itself out. In one way, that is interesting.
14:54:04 <rust1> I have nothing against arduino, but I prefer using a knob. unless I need the knob to be smart, for some reason
14:54:10 <Kuschelpony> :)
14:54:20 <Kuschelpony> yeah, i am still a kid from the 80s
14:54:45 <Kuschelpony> my worry is that the next thing we loose forever will be 7-segment-displays
14:55:13 <rust1> hmmm. that would not be great.
14:55:26 <Kuschelpony> after a large portion of control switches, espicaly rotary and mutual push buttons have already been obsolete
14:56:31 <Kuschelpony> i love these displays, they are just clear to recognice and read from a distance, no comparision to some kind of oled screen with fancy tiny graphics thats worn out after a few years
14:57:53 <rust1> I like the... not sure if they are lcd or oled, or whatever, that they use on the dashboard in the trucks. so the first half hour, you just have no info at all, when it is cold. very nice
14:58:34 <Kuschelpony> thats LCD without proper bias voltage
14:58:51 <rust1> not that we would have any info in the old days either, but as they removed the oil dipstick, and you have to look up the oil level on the dash...
14:59:40 <rust1> that is interesting. I would think at least one of the manufacturerswould get that right, lol
15:00:53 <rust1> oh well. it is what it is.
15:01:14 <Kuschelpony> i remember some first tv sets which had a pair of control buttons on the remote that you had to adjust the bias foriewing angle and room temperature every few hours
15:02:47 <Kuschelpony> it gets very picky at high multiplexing ratios
15:04:00 <Kuschelpony> have here an retro laptop that has a passive matrix lcd multiplexing 240 lines, tat means the voltage ration between maximum dark and minimum dark is 4%
15:08:08 <rust1> hmm, I wonder if I should order a few of those little led voltmeter "modules"
15:09:15 <Kuschelpony> not me, but getting close https://www.diyaudio.com/community/attachments/p4000254-x-jpg.1053949/
15:09:21 <Kuschelpony> oh these modules are fine
15:09:46 <rust1> I have a few of them, they do ok, for what I want them to do
15:11:04 <rust1> nothing I do is so fancy that I need it to show more than half volt steps, so those are fine for me
15:17:03 <rust1> I keep looking at things like this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/363713126092?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=gyadk8vfS_6&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=r7vXBGkSRyO&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY But shipping is not great
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15:20:39 <rust1> ok, I ordered 2 of the red led meter thingies. I think most that I have are green, which I like
15:24:52 <Kuschelpony> i think the yellowish green ones are the most eye friendly
15:25:52 <rust1> I like the look of the green ones. But, I think I "need" a couple of red ones too, lol
15:30:20 <rust1> on of my first projects, was to make a laptop power brick adjustable, and put one of those displays on it. it has been very handy to have some times. But I used one of those tiny blue "block" trimmer potentiometers, and I should probably replace that with a normal one, just because it is annoying to find a tiny screwdriver, and turn that screw around a million turns
15:31:30 <Kuschelpony> yep
15:32:25 <rust1> on the other hand, I do not bump it, and change the voltage by a lot
15:38:04 <Kuschelpony> these smps are flybacks that could principially turned to any volktage from zero, but as they alsoi need to feed their regulator chip they are fairly limited
15:39:29 <rust1> yes, I think the one I did can go down to... was it 3v? I do not remember. but it is pretty handy, if I need an extra power for something random
15:40:09 <rust1> it goes up to 39, probably just to annoy me
15:43:00 <Kuschelpony> twenty years ago i did a halfbridge that could do 50v 20a, but never went beyond open loop control into clean regulation
15:45:09 <Kuschelpony> was at least good enough to power an arc lamp
15:46:23 <Kuschelpony> but making an active pfc would have been far out of my options, and passive pfc led to some interesting instabilities
15:48:57 <rust1> I think I will stay with my cute little low power stuff, lol
15:52:37 <rust1> oh, I found the smd transistors I looked at the other day. and this is all the info they give you:
15:52:41 <rust1> Product Information:
15:52:42 <rust1> Features:Standard General Purpose
15:52:42 <rust1> Size:SOT-23
15:52:42 <rust1> QTY:100PCS
15:53:52 <hsn> No?
15:53:57 <rust1> no?
15:54:00 <hsn> Yes
15:54:05 <rust1> HELLO!!!
15:54:09 <Kuschelpony> the magazine elektor called them TUN in the 80s
15:54:14 <hsn> Hello there rusty
15:54:15 <Kuschelpony> no already in the 70s
15:54:25 <hsn> Bad news
15:54:32 <rust1> no?
15:54:36 <hsn> Bank allow no IRC
15:54:42 <rust1> BOOOO!!!
15:54:46 <hsn> Or GitHub
15:54:50 <rust1> good
15:54:56 <hsn> Or porno
15:55:01 <rust1> don't put the bank on github
15:55:06 <rust1> oh well
15:55:16 <hsn> Sfw?
15:55:26 <rust1> but, other than that, it is not so bad?
15:55:38 <hsn> Well i got covidized
15:55:42 <rust1> again?
15:55:59 <hsn> Yeah so both are unlucky
15:56:04 <hsn> Me and bank
15:56:21 <Kuschelpony> just call them something like BC848 thats good enough for all non-demanding apölications
15:56:31 <rust1> I only got it once, as far as I know... but it was on a weekend, so I only got monday off
15:56:56 <hsn> Kuschelpony: how are you man
15:57:00 <rust1> Kuschelpony yes, it is probably ok for something, but it is a bit weird that they give you no info at all
15:57:19 <hsn> rust1: how much isolation u get ?
15:57:25 <Kuschelpony> rust1, think they dont know perhaps themselv not more...
15:57:30 <rust1> but I did consider it, as they are a dollar for 100...
15:57:38 <hsn> 7-10 days here
15:57:58 <rust1> here, you do not have to stay at home, just dont sneese on people
15:57:59 <Kuschelpony> its not unusual if a factory specifies an kind of low spec generic purpose transisor and fills them with any die they have in stock, that might be een very high grade
15:58:04 <Kuschelpony> hsn its ok
15:59:17 <hsn> The other day an indian semiconductor company visited bahrain .. well because bahraini government wanted to participate in semiconductor after the shortage!!
15:59:55 <rust1> hello mr india sir, can we have a semi for you?
16:00:05 <hsn> And the founder adviced them to .. train bahrainis in VLSI stuff instead of manufacturing or whatever they want to do
16:00:42 <hsn> So apparently there going to be jobs after they take candidates to india for training 1 year
16:00:50 <hsn> In EE
16:01:06 <hsn> What was it ...
16:01:26 <rust1> what is vlsi?
16:01:34 <hsn> Moschip
16:01:41 <hsn> Desiging ic chips
16:01:45 <rust1> okay
16:02:27 <rust1> I still like this one: https://i.imgur.com/IEHbKfv.jpeg
16:03:11 <rust1> so, they will send people to india for a years training, to design ics? isn't that a bit... quick?
16:04:25 <rust1> hmm, weather guy says it is 38c down there, "feels like 470"
16:04:37 <rust1> or 47, but that is the same as 470 for me
16:05:20 <rust1> I think I prefer my 11c here
16:06:56 <rust1> but, is it ok to be at the bank? or are you looking for something else?
16:07:21 <rust1> you have to miss exploding toilets, when the boss is away?
16:07:29 <hsn> I cant tell right now
16:07:49 <hsn> Toilet was fun bank .. idk ..
16:07:56 <hsn> But pay me
16:08:05 <hsn> Because i want to live
16:08:19 <rust1> well, it is work, it does not have to be fun all the time
16:08:19 <hsn> They still didnt pay me
16:09:14 <hsn> How many months .. i lost count probably 5 months
16:11:56 <rust1> hmm, does the wife still make food, as a business?
16:15:40 <hsn> No
16:15:42 <hsn> But now
16:15:56 <hsn> She makes smoothie for her self
16:16:18 <hsn> While i get to enjoy mine milch
16:16:51 <rust1> mmh. well, that is something
16:17:27 <hsn> She works
16:17:34 <hsn> In her old company actually
16:17:57 <hsn> She is ending her probation period this month i think
16:18:15 <rust1> didn't she use to sell food in little boxes?
16:18:31 <hsn> Yes when she was unemployed
16:18:44 <rust1> right. ok.
16:18:45 <hsn> For small period
16:18:54 <hsn> Then she got bored
16:20:00 <hsn> How is little rustians
16:20:09 <hsn> Still doing gaming stuff?
16:20:18 <rust1> well, they are not exactly getting any smaller...
16:20:38 <hsn> How old r they now
16:21:10 <rust1> kid #1 is in the dungeon, playing games, #2 is in school(on vacation) #3 also. they are 22, 19, and 18
16:21:31 <hsn> 18 is toughest ?
16:21:53 <rust1> well, she is related to me, so... obviously, lol
16:22:56 <rust1> it will be interesting to see what happens, when they go back to school.
16:23:34 <rust1> kid #1 is moving out, again, after he gets done getting his drivers license.
16:23:37 <hsn> They will bully and got bullied
16:23:45 <rust1> nah, not so much
16:23:47 <hsn> Again?
16:23:57 <rust1> yeah, he moved out before also
16:24:01 <rust1> for half a year
16:24:09 <hsn> Why he came back
16:24:17 <hsn> He studies?
16:24:35 <rust1> hard to say. and no, he does nothing, just playing games
16:24:49 <hsn> How do you feel when he moves out .. oh better more room less liabilities?
16:25:13 <hsn> Or .. sad to see him out
16:25:27 <rust1> meh, he will be fine. and yes, I get one more room. it is not like I seem him much anyway
16:26:10 <hsn> So he will move = he will work
16:26:27 <hsn> To make money so he can stay alive and play
16:26:30 <rust1> well, we will see.... that is the plan, but.
16:26:53 <rust1> no no, we are in the socialist west. you do nto have to work to get paid here
16:27:37 <hsn> Is it enough when u dont work?
16:27:39 <rust1> but he sort of needs to get a job, just to get out and do something, not so much to get money, but just to get out
16:27:54 <rust1> you will survive just fine,
16:28:05 <hsn> But u cant buy games
16:28:10 <hsn> Just food?
16:28:16 <hsn> XD
16:28:39 <hsn> Yeah let him move his ass
16:28:42 <rust1> well, probably less games, but...also probably too many games
16:29:25 <rust1> if you do games, I think you can skip eating for a month, as long as you get that whatever thing for a game
16:29:50 <hsn> Virtual coins
16:29:58 <hsn> Kids love them
16:32:43 <rust1> but the work thing is interesting. they say we have so many jobs, and not enough people, but when I look at jobs, it is only "super experienced professor with 30 years of education, and 10 years work, and not older than 40" stuff, or work titles I have no idea what even means
16:35:18 <rust1> no regular jobs, for us uneducated scum
16:37:06 <hsn> That thing is a global joke
16:37:19 <rust1> I think so too
16:38:14 <hsn> Anyway nice to talk to you again .. i ve to go now before wife explode on me
16:38:50 <rust1> POP!
16:38:52 <hsn> 3rd trimester harmons are no fun
16:38:58 <rust1> oooh
16:38:59 <hsn> See u
16:39:04 <rust1> have fun
16:39:11 <hsn> U 2
16:39:33 <rust1> remember to put some sausages in the sun
16:44:58 <rust1> heh, so I ordered those unknown transistors, just to see what they are
17:07:28 * steve30 meows
17:09:09 <Kuschelpony> friendlywhinny steve
17:09:18 <Kuschelpony> rust1, sure
17:10:20 <rust_collector> I do not really know what I would use tiny transistors for... but.. I guess I can, closer to christmas
17:12:49 <steve30> I'm off out in a bit. Today's gay pride march is called the "City Fibre Parade of Unity", because marching through a town centre can't possibly be done without corporate sponsorship
17:13:14 <rust_collector> where is it today?
17:13:20 <steve30> Doncaster
17:13:44 <steve30> And Leeds tomorrow
17:14:23 <rust_collector> leeds is a bit bigger than... many places, isn't it?
17:14:29 <steve30> yup
17:16:43 <rust_collector> that could be interesting, i guess. well, have fun
17:45:11 <steve30> I do love these addresses on ebay
17:45:14 <steve30> "SHANGHAI SUSAFEN MAOYIYOUXIANGONGSI
17:45:14 <steve30> shanghaishijinshanqutinglinzhen
17:45:14 <steve30> songyinyucailu121nong22hao1zhuang754shi"
17:46:10 <rust_collector> Some times, I keep the label of the little china baggies I get.
17:50:37 <electrohead> squintsatthescreenandyawns
17:53:03 <rust_collector> I found a bottle of caffeine pills, if I send them to you, they should be ready for snorting, when they get thru the postal system
17:55:04 <steve30> Coffee is tastier :)
17:55:23 <rust_collector> ok, snort coffee, if you want, lol
18:12:17 <rust_collector> more noodles! eeh.
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21:12:10 <T3sl4> steve30 after coffee but before breakfast: steve30 before coffee: https://i.imgur.com/itLimpO.mp4
21:23:57 <rust1> some times I wonder if you search for cats or steves
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22:08:15 <T3sl4> K: https://imgur.com/gallery/TVjQBCq
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22:15:17 <Ampera> Good morning
22:15:25 * Ampera pets T3sl4 with some egg noodles
22:16:32 * T3sl4 teas Ampera with some earl
22:16:43 <Ampera> not until I have my shopping done :<
22:17:50 <rust1> :< makes me think of some old chinese guy. with a long white moustache
22:21:53 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://imgur.com/gallery/qM5t8b8
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23:35:35 <electrohead> lol
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