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01:31:32 <arch> how do you do, fellow weebs
01:31:49 * Ysjoelfir launches an arrow at arch
01:32:33 * Ampera banishes arch to a padded cell where all the surface feel a bit crinkly
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01:34:47 <Ampera> smother?
01:34:51 <Ampera> it's shattered into a million pieces
01:35:01 <Ampera> how are you gonna smother me with a bunch of awful smelling chips on the floor
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02:58:16 <Ysjoelfir> Nearly done arranging the shelves. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wmgz85ymcg2c9keyhJHBDh5mfRLJBOHE/view?usp=sharing
02:59:14 <Ysjoelfir> I will add another small one, 25cm deep and 1.2m wide, to the right of the screens, and put the soldering stuff onto that.
03:04:47 <Ampera> nice license plate
03:06:33 <Ysjoelfir> isnt it
04:36:22 <arch> nice lab
04:36:29 <arch> nice ti-83
04:36:38 <arch> or is it 82
04:38:03 <Ysjoelfir> none of those, waaaay more simple :D
04:38:37 <DHess_US> "O, so sorry. I need more time. Right now my country defending russian invasion, so I'm a little busy now. Hope in few days I'll return to your problem." https://github.com/insky/vue-gpickr/pull/9
04:38:52 <Ysjoelfir> http://www.calcuseum.com/SCRAPBOOK/BONUS/09505/1.htm
05:08:16 <K> congrats Ysjoelfir, russian ministry of information is calling germans nazis again - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMs9Uk1XoAcuJKf?format=jpg&name=small
05:08:28 <Ampera> WOOO
05:08:39 <K> that probably means the right thing was done.
05:08:46 <Ampera> if russia sets the bar any lower, being a nazi will start being a good thing
05:08:59 <Ysjoelfir> whoops. And there is our government, saying "nooo, russia doesn't hate us"
05:09:24 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, what do you mean by that
05:09:24 <Ysjoelfir> can you translate that, K?
05:09:27 <K> yes
05:09:42 <K> translating now
05:09:42 <Ampera> I thought basically all the foreign policy germany has had for the past 70 years has just been thrown in the trash
05:10:40 <Ysjoelfir> has it?
05:11:16 <K> "deliveries of german weapons to the ideological followers of S. Bandera (look in wiki) rises a question - how throuough and complete was the process of de-nazification in the Germany itself after defeat in WW2"
05:11:36 <Ampera> well yeah, germany is shipping weapons to an active combatant against russia
05:11:57 <Ampera> they just dumped a bucket load of cash into military spending too
05:12:23 <K> the Bandera guy was sorta a colaborant with nazi regime, as i understand
05:12:36 <Ampera> if there is anyone in the german government right now who things that they can still salvage this shit and save all the natural gas, they need to take their big boy shorts and gtfo
05:12:49 <K> but was only active on the teritory of Ukraine, if am not mistaken
05:13:26 <Ysjoelfir> oooh, I see. I see dark clouds rising on the sky. also, thanks for translating :)
05:13:54 <K> it is wild.
05:14:07 <K> tbh i am feeling quite uneasy these last few days
05:14:17 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, we, eg our government, doesn't want that gas anyway, they just built the pipeline and decided to fuck it. we, the people, want that stuff, as heating gets insanely expensive
05:14:59 <Ysjoelfir> K, you are even closer to the scene, I can totally understand that. If you need some place to flee, my sofa is always open for you and your family
05:15:06 <Ampera> aye, but even with that pipeline your energy costs are some of the highest in the developed world
05:15:36 <Ysjoelfir> that is sadly true
05:15:37 <Ampera> I'd get mad at the fat stack of taxes there are on energy instead of not being able to get fuel from war criminals
05:16:36 <K> pipeline is done
05:16:38 <K> scrap
05:16:43 <Ampera> I absolutely would love for there to be a general reliance on clean renewables, but until the prices come down far enough to make the use of electricity for general purposes feasible, and enough investment is put into improving the capacity of the power grid, it won't happen for ages
05:17:14 <Ampera> electricity prices here are far cheaper, and taxes far less of a burden, but our power grid is a fucking joke
05:17:19 <K> i apreciate that Ysjoelfir
05:17:26 <Ampera> they can barely keep it on half the time nevermind provide enough to power cars and heaters
05:17:29 <K> am not sure would i stay or run
05:17:39 <K> i do not have children, so
05:19:04 <Ysjoelfir> I was thinking about the same recently. if I would be involved in such a conflict, would I run or fight for my country? hard questin. I (kind of) have a child now though....
05:19:35 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera - the whole energy cost discussion is a can of worms though. we have a general problem with that in germany, its annoying as fuck but nobody seems to care
05:20:36 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, as per fight or flight, it's hard to make any such statement. It'd be very easy for me to say I'd pick up a rifle and boogaloo, but I'm not actually there
05:21:02 <Ampera> this is point blank why this is such a big fucking deal, and russia needs to be thrown in the trash yesterday
05:21:49 <Ampera> nobody should ever have to be put in that kind of position, and it is impossible to have any such discussion to know that we, at least my nation, are guilty of that exact same crime.
05:22:37 <Ampera> that's also why there can be nothing but infinite respect for the people of ukraine who have the rock hard slav nerves of steel to manage to stick together and fight off one of the most well equipped and largest armies in the world
05:24:42 <K> yes
05:25:06 <Ampera> finland has sent weapons to ukraine
05:25:08 <K> not that well equiped, as seen so far
05:25:22 <K> but there are a lot of them
05:25:39 <Ampera> honestly I think the equipment isn't the problem, I think it's morale
05:25:48 <K> do no know
05:25:51 <K> not
05:25:59 <Ampera> russia is sending their B team, full of conscripts who don't want to murder their neighbors (or even family)
05:27:26 <DHess_US> https://www.vice.com/en/article/akvya5/russian-electric-vehicle-chargers-hacked-tell-users-putin-is-a-dickhead
05:27:42 <Ampera> hahahaha
05:28:03 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
05:28:11 <K> putin huilo yes
05:32:57 <K> bhah, it turns out russian speical ICs "Elbrus" are made by TMSC
05:33:14 <K> like their own "home-grown" CPUs for weapons systems
05:33:27 <K> and Taiwan has said - no ICs for you.
05:33:55 <K> nice.
05:36:55 <Ampera> haha
05:44:40 <Ysjoelfir> hehehe, nice
05:45:38 <Ysjoelfir> though the newest video from Boris made me sad
05:45:39 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEuLeLt6qsk
05:50:49 <Ampera> I'm sure there is genuine sentiment, but it seems kinda weird to me
05:51:28 <Ampera> for a person who has done nothing but to show just how nice these countries and their people can be, how much genuine and innocent culture there is, why should he feel shame over other people trying to destroy it
05:53:21 <Ysjoelfir> probably the same way I feel very often as a nazi even though I wasn't even born back than
05:57:21 <Ampera> It's weird, my dad feels the same way sometimes
05:57:34 <Ampera> I wonder if it might have to do with the german school system
05:57:58 <Ampera> because I have absolutely belief that I am guilty, responsible, or should personally share a burden
05:58:12 <Ampera> most of the people involved died long before I was born
06:00:18 <Ysjoelfir> exactly that is (part of) the reason. another one has to do with the way media works, and also the government. you are constantly reminded that "we" are the bad bad nazis and that "we" have done cruel things and have to suffer for that now to pay for that
06:02:05 <Ampera> Perhaps it's simply thought that a cult of guilt is the strongest measure possible to prevent the nazi regime from happening again
06:02:22 <Ampera> but extreme policies encourage extreme ideas
06:02:53 <Ampera> raising generations to believe they are all equally responsible for some of the worst crimes humanity has ever seen is counterproductive.
06:03:22 <Ampera> It's like someone breaking a law and then making telling their kid to feel guilty about it
06:04:38 <Ysjoelfir> exactly that
06:05:47 <Ampera> Germany is one of the weirdest states I know of. On paper, it's incredibly authoritarian, with a lot of restrictions on personal liberty and speech, but in practice, I've seen a lot of good faith in its implementation
06:06:22 <Ampera> not that there isn't any corruption, but it is absolutely unnerving as a raised American to see system as strict as that actually working as well as it does
06:07:14 <Ampera> a perfect example of how laws must be written for the people they affect, not for the ideals they wish to implement.
06:07:45 <Ysjoelfir> it would be nice though if said laws would be written in a way a normal citizen can understand without paying a lawyer to explain
06:08:02 <Ampera> well that's nothing unique about Germany :P
06:08:23 <Ampera> laws aren't confusing because they need to be detailed, their confusing so that people can hide corruption in plain sight.
06:10:30 <Ysjoelfir> I get the impression that older laws are easyer to understand
06:11:26 <Ampera> people upgraded from writing laws nobody follows to writing laws allowing the same, just written so confusingly people don't know.
06:11:27 <rust_collector> up to a point. the constitution up here is so weirdly worded, and in "old language" so no one probably knows what it says.
06:20:22 <Ampera> The US constitution is so simply written that anyone can understand the words, but nobody understands what they actually mean
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06:46:20 <jaymacks> Like how people read the freedom of speech amendment as applying only to journalists, and any idiot gets to decide who is a journalist at any given point?
06:46:20 <jaymacks> I don't believe people misunderstand what they read. They are just Leviticus-esque opportunists.
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06:57:03 <Ampera> jaymacks, no, like, for instance, the actual text of the first amendment states "congress shall make no law", which I'd argue could be interpreted as limiting only the federal government, and not the state governments.
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06:57:38 <Ampera> however, there is over two hundred years worth of case law that establishes the first amendment's bounds as including all forms of government
06:58:08 <jaymacks> Curses, foiled at shitposting again.
06:58:19 <Ampera> lol
06:58:48 <jaymacks> How's it's going Ampule?
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06:59:51 <Ampera> If you want shitposting, then the second amendment states a well regulated militia being the reason for, but not a requirement for the right to bear arms to not be infringed.
07:00:47 <Ampera> and as such, the second amendment should, if it were applied as written, make any and all gun control unconstitutional.
07:01:02 <Ampera> however, going back to the whole case law thing, that obviously isn't how it's applied
07:01:37 <Ampera> as for how I am doing, I feel about ready to facepike
07:02:08 <jaymacks> It's amazing that NY state didn't do that to you already.
07:02:29 <Ampera> NY politics aren't stressful at all.
07:02:43 <Ampera> When you know that the outcome has been decided before the election, it means you don't have to worry about what your vote is worth
07:03:21 <Ampera> NY politicians, on the other hand, most certainly are rage inducing
07:03:49 <jaymacks> I was thinking more of their taxes and assessed value of anything *to* be taxed.
07:04:07 <Ampera> one nice thing is we don't have property taxes for cars
07:04:23 <Ampera> and the NY tax department actually processes paper returns on time
07:04:25 <jaymacks> *yet*
07:04:34 <Ampera> I've run out of nice things to say about NY tax policy
07:04:37 <Ampera> it's meh
07:04:42 <jaymacks> Lol
07:04:47 <Ampera> they waste it like any other government
07:05:31 <jaymacks> Another region that did a poor job of chasing out the mafia.
07:05:51 <jaymacks> Poor effort by design.
07:06:03 <Ampera> why would the mafia try to chase out the mafia
07:06:11 <jaymacks> ^
07:06:22 <Ampera> cuomo wasn't "just italian" for no reason
07:06:24 <jaymacks> They had to pretend
07:06:57 <Ampera> makes me wonder whose corn flakes he pissed in to get kicked out
07:07:10 <Ampera> nobody cared about his sexual assault for years
07:08:21 <Ampera> political rumor mill has it that the state legislature thought the eviction ban didn't create enough of a housing crisis, so they're debating making evictions harder than the level of impossible they already are
07:09:16 <jaymacks> Predatory opportunities for promotion, my bet. Noone cared except for those done waiting to advance.
07:10:12 <Ampera> man, someone's gotta start wondering if putin's been paid off by the defense industry
07:10:43 <Ampera> the amount of military aid being funneled into ukraine has got to be creaming a few corporate pairs of jeans
07:11:01 <jaymacks> Well, where did he get all that gold anyway?
07:11:15 <Ampera> it's hilarious though
07:11:22 <Ampera> the entire russian economy has basically been deleted overnight
07:11:46 <Ampera> even china is telling them to calm the fuck down, and they're still not really backing off
07:11:54 <jaymacks> All that gold - at the early signs of a commodity boom, at that.
07:12:45 <jaymacks> There are powers that want the war to continue, and Putin is the quietest voice in that room.
07:13:13 <Ampera> I honestly don't get the point of it anymore
07:13:41 <Ampera> unless the intent was to destroy the russian economy and get it off every christmas list on the planet, whatever goals they had are now thoroughly unattainable
07:13:52 <Ampera> even if they do manage to overthrow the ukranian government, they're not gonna get shit out of it
07:15:01 <jaymacks> It's a distraction to rob us. Just like with anything else this past two decades - 9/11, Iraq, Syria, China trade war, Covid...
07:15:26 <jaymacks> Lehman Brothers - tf I cannot forget that one.
07:16:52 <jaymacks> They'll wheel out Bernie to ramp up the hopium for the young'uns again soon.
07:19:40 <jaymacks> To tie in the robbing part... Say bye-bye to rate hikes now (this is wartime after all), inflation go burrr, wartime shortages, rations, say hello to bail-ins to pay for the effort, and on-and-on.
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08:07:02 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/FedorovMykhailo/status/1498392515262746630
08:07:56 <K> that is globalisation for you
08:08:16 <K> i wonder if they needed to shuffle some satelites around
08:12:00 <DHess_US> No, but they needed to have a ground station adjacent to or in Ukraine.
08:12:47 <DHess_US> I think a single ground station can cover the 20 or so satellites over Ukraine.
08:15:04 <K> the inter-sat link is not up yet?
08:15:11 <K> prolly takes some time
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08:20:32 <Nothing\> the poop mystery deepens
08:20:50 <Nothing\> i just did an impromptu PH test on my poop and it's unusually alkaline
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08:21:22 <Nothing\> 9.0, normal is more like 6.5
08:21:40 <Nothing\> it's bad enough, when i threw the universal indicator paper into the toilet to discard it, it almost instantly turned blue
08:22:06 <Nothing\> but i made sure to test it "directly" with no water or buffer or anything so there's no chance it was anything else contaminating it
08:23:10 <steve30> Can't say I have ever tested the ph of poop
08:23:23 <Nothing\> it's funny because it's all seems to point to the first thought i had about what's causing this pain, which is an imbalance in my gut microbiota. Although what caused it and specifically what happened to my gut biome i have no clue but it seems something decimated it and my appendix just couldn't cut the mustard in trying to replace said flora
08:23:45 <Nothing\> steve30, i've felt like i've had food poisoning since september. I'm fucking desperate to say the least.
08:24:07 <Nothing\> which brings me to what i can do to fix my gut microbiota problem. or lack of intestinal flora.
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08:24:41 <DHess_US> K, the inter-sat link is for a later version of the sats.
08:24:53 <Nothing\> You see, when you're born. The first thing that happens to you is you're inocculated head to foot, inside and out in microbes from your mother's birth canal
08:24:53 <DHess_US> They have tested it, but I think they are still working on the design for it.
08:25:24 <Nothing\> which is how you initially develop your gut microbiota. Then throughout life it's added to through your experiences and food and other contacts with the environment etc.
08:25:29 <steve30> On this topic, I am rather desperate for a pee
08:25:35 <K> i see.
08:25:44 <Nothing\> But if it's disrupted, it can cause problems, like crohn's for instance.
08:25:58 <K> ph is log scale, right?
08:26:01 <Nothing\> it is
08:26:08 <Nothing\> so yeah i didn't even think of that D:
08:26:10 <K> 9 to 6.5 is crazy lot
08:26:17 <Nothing\> yeah jeez
08:26:48 <K> crazy based poop
08:29:49 <Nothing\> well i see my doc soon, but then i need a referal to a GI specialist, who will probably want to scope me, which means a referal to an internal surgeon, which they stopped all surgeries in Canada for a good few months, so I have to wait through the backlog of more pressing patients. I mean i wouldn't want my little thing to get in the way of somebody having surgery for stage 4 cancer or something.
08:30:08 <Nothing\> but even when things are working as they should, it'd be about a 1 year wait for a scope
08:30:15 <Nothing\> which i don't even think i need a scope.
08:31:41 <Nothing\> but yeah what prompted the PH test is i noticed every time i go, it burns like crazy. Regardless of what I eat, which these days is just basically muesli and quichi with a bit of nuts and fish to add some other stuff. But it ALWAYS feels like I've eaten something really spicy. You know that classic burn you get after a spicy meal.
08:32:15 <Nothing\> it's like thta every time. So I figured there's something in there that's causing irritation, and a PH test as unpleasant as the notion is, seemed the easiest way to determine if that was it.
08:32:21 <Nothing\> But see here's the issue
08:32:37 <Nothing\> I have an idea that i'm 90% certain will fix my issue within a matter of a week.
08:34:20 <Nothing\> which is backed by actual (CREDIBLE) medical science and is done as a legit medical procedure for other conditions, but since the science of gut microbiota and the implications imbalances in intestinal flora can have is still very much in its infancy, such treatments are very rare and in canada at least they're restricted to around 2,500 procedures a year for crohn's disease.
08:34:31 <Nothing\> But luckily it's easy to do at home.
08:34:44 <Nothing\> see, all you do is find somebody who's very open minded
08:35:19 <Nothing\> collect some amount of their poop...
08:36:08 <Nothing\> then mix it with sterile 0.9% saline as much as you can, and pop it up your back side. Basically inoculating your GI tract with fresh and more varied flora
08:38:45 <Nothing\> or there are special capsules some companies make where you can take it orally and they dissolve in your large intestines. But I don't think I could take one of those. I mean as an ex druggy who was VERY experimental in his younger days, I've consumed all manner of rancid concoctions. Ranging from around 50 fresh leaves of a plant called coleus chopped up which taste exactly like you'd expect a house plant to taste lik
08:38:46 <Nothing\> spit-vomited purple juice all over my grandparent's bathroom until I got the idea to mix it with pudding. Which tasted worse but at least I could just swallow it.
08:40:05 <Nothing\> Or when I was on painkillers, as a quick fix if i couldn't get drugs i'd make tea from seeds i bought from grocery stores, which honest to god work just fine depending on the brand lol. But the tea ends up being this browish yellow crap that looks, smells and tastes like swamp water and you've got about 3 liters of the crap to drink D:
08:40:40 <Nothing\> Or drinking bottle of cough syrup as a teen. ugh that was the worst. I've never had worse nausea in my entire life than the feeling of trying to digest one of those bastards.
08:40:54 <Nothing\> (and it's a wonder i have health problems lol)
08:41:45 <Nothing\> but just for the record i'm not complaining or looking for sympathy. A lot of people think i'm complaining or whatever when I talk about this stuff but I just think it's amusing, plus there's really nothing else going on in my life to talk about so i dunno what else I'd say.
08:41:52 <Nothing\> how's the weather? lol
08:42:04 <steve30> i should probably try and go to sleep
08:42:32 <steve30> but i'm feeling too depressed for it
08:42:36 <Nothing\> steve30, absolutely. don't make the same mistake i do almost every day and stay awake like a stubborn cranky child trying to fight it when he's too tired for his own good lol.
08:42:43 <Nothing\> aww i'm sorry steve30
08:42:47 <Nothing\> really, i am
08:42:54 * Nothing\ gives steve30 a big hug
08:43:05 <Nothing\> i wish it could be real, but that's the best i can do :(
08:43:26 <Nothing\> just know, you've got friends who love you all over the world, steve30
08:43:34 <Nothing\> and we're all on your side <3
08:43:41 <steve30> :)
08:43:55 <Nothing\> it may not fix the root of your problem, i don't want to pretend to know anything about that. But at least it's something.
08:44:11 <Nothing\> lol and here i am blubbering like a little girl with a skinned knee
08:44:30 <steve30> i did manage a couple of 'less-depressed' days recently
08:44:30 <Nothing\> lol well not that bad, just what i call the "sexy cry" when you get a single tear rolling down your face
08:44:44 <Nothing\> but i've got my own stuff going on too, so don't you dare feel like you're bringing me down
08:45:09 <Nothing\> strength through numbers, right?
08:45:40 <Nothing\> steve30, yeah me too. And I dunno about you but I know with me, my depression gets worse during the winter
08:45:56 <Nothing\> though i knew this winter would be bad when it was already starting in september/october
08:46:33 <Nothing\> but yeah for the sleep thing, you know as soon as you lie down you're just gonna end up thinking about everything. God knows I do.
08:47:00 <Nothing\> except i tend to get more anxious than depressed. Which i think I'd take depression over anxiety
08:47:13 <steve30> i've never found it worse at any particular time of year
08:47:25 <Nothing\> at least depression only makes you WANT to die (sometimes) where anxiety makes you feel like you ARE dying
08:48:05 <Nothing\> no? well that's good at least. SAD is no bueno. But at least you can sort of know ahead of time if things are gonna get rough.
08:48:25 <Nothing\> so long as you don't ruminate about it and give yourself anxiety worrying about what's coming and the unknowns therein
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08:50:12 <Nothing\> i dunno about you, but i've actually found that depression, or at least the events causing it, can be really good sometimes in that they help us to learn and grow and mature more than probably any other events in life.
08:50:33 <Nothing\> depending on the severity of course. If it's too bad I just go full numb dissociation
08:51:30 <Nothing\> but that's rare. I find most of the time I'm able to at least learn some stuff from it and do some growing. So as much as it's difficult to go through things of that nature, at least it's not totally in vain, or for naught.
08:52:53 <Nothing\> in any case, steve30 I really hope you can come to terms with whatever's bothering you. Or at least put it on the back burner so you can get some sleep and hopefully feel at least a bit better when you're better rested.
08:53:02 <steve30> I started to get depression symptoms in 2006, and I still have it now in 2022. I struggle to see any positives to it.
08:53:13 <Nothing\> and rightly so
08:53:39 <Nothing\> i've realized it's because of evolution that we tend to focus more on negative things
08:54:10 <Nothing\> because if you think about it, in the wild it would be more advantageous to remember something that causes negative feelings because that something is probably not beneficial for survival
08:54:24 <Nothing\> where it's not as important to remember things that give us pleasure.
08:54:32 <Nothing\> at least that's my take on it
08:56:16 <Nothing\> But I also believe that no matter how difficult or impossible even, things seem. There's almost always at least a sliver of something good in there to be found. It's not easy to find at all and even harder to hold onto. Especially in the face of the unending onslaught of misery. But it's a skill like any other. So the more you practice, the easier it is and more natural it becomes.
08:57:02 <Nothing\> Of course I've had the benefit of 15 years of pretty much no obligations other than myself. So I've had lots of time to work on things like that. Not everybody has that luxury.
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08:58:15 <Nothing\> and please, steve30. Feel free to stop me if i'm being annoying or going somewhere with this i should or whatever. I may just be being neurotic but part of me feels sometimes maybe I'm going into this too much or you just don't wanna talk about it or whatever.
08:58:39 <Nothing\> hey.... my mum said she was gonna make pigs in a blanket but she went and got groceries with my brother instead. tsk tsk tsk.
08:59:17 <Nothing\> Looks like i'll just have another quiche. They're tasty anyways. Crustless, too. Which I think all pie-based foods should be because I don't think anyone actually likes the crust of any pie based food except maybe a meat pie.
08:59:27 <Nothing\> and that's only once it's soaked up the gravy
09:05:24 <steve30> i had left over chinese takeaway today
09:05:28 <steve30> I have sausages for tomorrow
09:06:28 <steve30> anyway, i'm off to bed
09:06:30 <steve30> good night
09:06:54 <Nothing\> i've never been big on sausage. lol it's funny, i have german blood, but don't like sausage or saurkraut or horseradish or drink beer. And I'm canadian and like wise i hate hockey, don't like maple, and... well Trudeau can suck a phat one. But I used to be a fan until the pandemic showed his true colours.
09:07:04 <Nothing\> steve30, goodnight buddy. Hope you rest well.
09:07:19 <Nothing\> <3
09:16:37 <Nothing\> lol i sent a scathing message to this mortgage broker on youtube saying what terrible people they are etc etc
09:16:48 <Nothing\> makes me wonder if anyone's even gonna read it. Or care.
09:17:33 <Nothing\> facebook, sorry. Not Youteb.
09:18:12 <Nothing\> it's just funny because I write similarly scathing comments on adverts on facebook, and the more such comments I write, the more adverts I get from that company because Facebook figures "if he's commenting he must like it"
09:18:39 <Nothing\> so they more vitriol i post, the adverts i see and the more adverts i see, the more vitriol i post.
09:19:10 <Nothing\> i figure maybe if i harass them in messages enough they'll just block me and i won't have to see their ads anymore
09:19:49 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYAVrLBKavM
09:20:04 <Nothing\> 1000ft of ANALOG HD video over a single cable?!
09:21:32 <DHess_US> Nothing magic about that. It just depends on equaliziation.
09:29:01 <Nothing\> DHess_US, no that was the title, not a remark lol
09:29:36 <Nothing\> i just realized it could easily have been mistaken for me remarking at how amazing it is. But really I think it's just a fun oddity more than anything.
09:30:50 <Nothing\> There was a channel called Atomic Frontier where he laid out something like 1,000 feet of copper wire and did some TDR to see how close to the speed of light electricity travels. Even though I could see all sorts of issues with his methodology it was still an interesting watch.
09:31:05 <Nothing\> asneiohaseindoeasihaoesidaoei
09:31:21 <Nothing\> dat feeling when you realize you don't have your ecig within arm's reach and you don't remember where you left it
09:32:32 <Nothing\> ah i'm so happy. 3rd day in a row my stomach pain's been less than a 2. days like this are exceedingly rare, nevermind 3 in a row. :D
09:32:42 <Nothing\> that is less than a 2/10
09:32:50 <Nothing\> normally it's more like 6
09:33:11 <Nothing\> where 7's where it becomes intolerable on my scale
09:33:53 <Nothing\> 8's beyond intolerable, 9's the worst pain of my life and 10 is unimaginable the likes of which i've never experienced.
09:35:18 <Nothing\> ah jeez
09:35:23 <Nothing\> i don't want to alarm you guys
09:36:10 <Nothing\> but i think something really bad may have happened to the russian ruble. For some reason the value just tanked at the end of February to being almost worthless. I wonder what would have done that...
09:36:26 <Nothing\> https://i.ibb.co/SNKsWDk/Ruble-Value-History.png
09:36:30 <Nothing\> lol :P
09:36:40 * Nothing\ is not THAT out of touch with the world
09:37:04 <Nothing\> it's still an amusing graph
09:37:51 <Nothing\> so it's a bit more than 100 rubles for each canadian cent
09:46:20 <Nothing\> I was just thinking, it'd be cool to get a broken NES, take the ICs out and build a breadboard NES
10:06:06 <DHess_US> My redneck repair this weekend, https://i.ibb.co/02fppSJ/IMG-0549.jpg
10:07:01 <Nothing\> yewhw what is that?
10:07:12 <Nothing\> lol wtf @ my cat
10:07:31 <Nothing\> first she treats my bottle of baby aspirin like it's some sort of potentially dangerous animal
10:07:53 <Nothing\> and now she's doing the same thing with one of her balls and hopping on all fours around it like a rabbit
10:08:54 <Nothing\> lolo my other cat got scared one time when i blew a raspberry. So every time after that whenever i farted, he'd jump a mile.
10:09:33 <DHess_US> Drain in my ultrasonic cleaner sprung a leak. So I went to silver solder it, and the silver solder wouldn't not stick to the drain pipe. So I plugged the drain with a nickel, but all of the heating caused at least two cracks in the stainless tank, so I sealed them.
10:09:53 <DHess_US> When in doubt, add more silver solder.
10:10:01 <Nothing\> oh okay i thought that was a wash basin or something. I wouldn't expect an ultrasonic cleaner's bath to rust like that
10:10:13 <Nothing\> hehe
10:12:39 <DHess_US> It isn't rusted. That is just the results of brazing it.
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10:55:10 <Nothing\> oh good
10:55:24 <Nothing\> Bald and Bankrupt made it out of Kyiv on a refugee train
10:56:00 <Nothing\> i was really worried about what would happen to him once Russia invades. Even with the missile attacks I was worried for his safety.
10:56:58 <Nothing\> He published a video on his channel last night that he filmed the day before the invasion and he actually went into Ukraine because he and all of the other locals he spoke with didn't think Putin would be that stupid.
10:57:27 <Nothing\> He'd ask locals "are you worried?" and they'd say "worried about what?"
10:57:28 <Nothing\> lol
10:58:03 <Nothing\> actually there's a funny video of some Ukrainian's mocking some Russian troops who were broken down on the side of the road.
10:58:27 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf3c8vtXvHo
11:01:42 <jaymax> Is there though? The fog of war results in 98% propoganda among 2% truth.
11:02:26 <Nothing\> yeah i know i hate that
11:02:36 <Nothing\> every story i see i wonder how much of it is propaganda
11:02:48 <Nothing\> from either side
11:03:17 <Nothing\> although i try to stick to more credible, less biased sources like al jazeera, they're good like that
11:03:46 <jaymax> BTW Have you lookking at the Kyiv Earthcam?
11:04:00 <Nothing\> which, i didn't know they're a qatari network. I always thought they were based in the UAE or Saudi Arabia or something
11:04:05 <jaymax> Thankfully still normal.
11:04:18 <Nothing\> no i haven't actually seen much of any footage from the ground
11:04:30 <Nothing\> just a few videos of missile attacks and some blown up buildings
11:05:00 <Nothing\> parts of Ukraine are still peaceful. But other parts are under missile/artillery/mortar attacks
11:05:07 <jaymax> https://www.earthcam.com/world/ukraine/kyiv/?cam=kyiv
11:05:09 <Nothing\> er Kyiv. Sorry.
11:05:16 <Nothing\> thanks, i was going to look that up.
11:05:17 <DHess_US> That's how war works.
11:05:21 <jaymax> ^
11:05:31 <Nothing\> DHess_US, yeah it's like a tornado like that, innit?
11:05:56 <DHess_US> At least if you are smart. You don't waste effort on non-essential targets. The objective is not usually to destroy everybody and everything in sight.
11:06:17 <Nothing\> oh yeah i checked out flightalert.com to see if there are any non-russian flights flying over russian airspace
11:06:18 <jaymax> Feigning prowess is smarter than wasting your prowess.
11:06:18 <DHess_US> The objective is to enforce terms on the enemy with as little cost as possible.
11:06:23 <jaymax> -Sun Tzu
11:06:29 <Nothing\> and there actually were a couple that i found just after a cursory glance
11:06:43 <Nothing\> there was one flight out of turkey
11:06:52 <Nothing\> another one out of the netherlands, for some reason
11:07:27 <Nothing\> which i thought all EU nations were banned from flying in russian airspace but this was definitely in russian airspace. Near the border, but no mistaking it was at least 50-100 miles across
11:07:47 <DHess_US> Investing the major cities of Ukraine will probably achieve Putin's objectives.
11:07:47 <Nothing\> turkey i can see although aren't they part of EU? or is it just NATO they're part of of?
11:07:50 <jaymax> White-knucklin' it then.
11:08:17 <Nothing\> although i dunno if Turkey's a russian ally or not
11:08:30 <DHess_US> Invest = To surround with troops or ships; besiege.
11:08:44 <DHess_US> No, Turkey is a NATO member.
11:08:50 <jaymax> IIRC Turkey is not a member state but part of the extended trade zone.
11:08:51 <Nothing\> i feel like they are, but I remember the US posting nuclear missile silos in Turkey during the cold war. It was the whole rationale for why Russia put missiles in Cuba
11:09:40 <Nothing\> DHess_US, that's what I thought. I forget wwhat straight, i think one leading into the black sea. but either way I know Turkey controls it and being a NATO state that puts Russia in a precarious situation
11:10:12 <jaymax> Turkey has their own currency that they are still rekt-ing, and gets in frequent spats with Greece - who *is* (begrudgingly) a member state.
11:10:38 <Nothing\> since it gives one of their few if only naval ports that are not frozen during parts of the year
11:10:55 <Nothing\> where just about every other major russian port is frozen for a good amount of the year
11:11:32 <Nothing\> i've heard so many different reasons for this invasion though. ANd it probably is multi-faceted. But it makes it more confusing than I initially thought.
11:11:53 <jaymax> Not to mention mineral resources, pockets that are Russian-speaking and didn't like the 2014 soup-coup, yadda yadda.
11:11:56 <Nothing\> The story the west has been touting is it's because of Ukraine joining NATO
11:13:06 <Nothing\> but apparently the areas Ukraine's invaded, including large portions of the exclusive economic zone that gives Ukraine drilling rights for some of their richest oil fields, which happen to be all around Crimea.
11:13:18 <jaymax> Not necessarily joinging, but no assuance that they won't. Because NATO *is* a cold-war organization that expanded after said cold war.
11:13:19 <Nothing\> and Donbass/Donetsk
11:13:22 <Nothing\> to name a few
11:13:37 <Nothing\> there were some other reasons i heardtoo can't reacall
11:13:58 <jaymax> Nothing\ just read my last few messages for those reasons.
11:14:10 <jaymax> ;^)
11:14:42 <Nothing\> jaymax, i honenstly don't blame Russia for not wanting Ukraine to join. It's like trying to blame North Korea for not dismontling their nuclear program. You know the second they did, the West would be all over them.
11:14:47 <DHess_US> https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/ukraines-deadly-gamble
11:14:48 <jaymax> And ugh, s/soup-coup/soft-coup/ LOL
11:15:04 <Nothing\> lol
11:16:16 * jaymax reads ... thx DHess_US
11:24:27 <jaymax> Thanks for that. It's a similar vibe to what I've been seeing aggregated on ZeroHedge. Adding the article that struck me a certain way. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/cold-war-thinking-isnt-working
11:38:57 <DHess_US> jaymax, it fits with the game theory of Ukraine's situation. I said years ago that they were making poor decisions.
11:39:23 <DHess_US> It is possible that they couldn't make any better decisions because of domestic politics.
11:40:01 <jaymax> Yeah. I didn't pay attention years ago - I kinda wish I did now.
11:43:13 <Nothing\> oh cool there's a documentary about the history of the NES apparently
11:43:20 <Nothing\> atleast that's what it sounds like
11:43:35 <Nothing\> Playing with Power, the Nintendo Story
11:43:43 <jaymax> Back in 2018 I got annoyed by how fragile the whole security/privacy stiuation was with tech, and made personal changes. When I took deep dives into other areas: commerce, trade, economies, geopolitics -- I reached similar conclusion of fragility, and what often gets parroted is effectively the dog sitting among fire "This is fine."
11:44:17 <Nothing\> came across it on tpb looking for old scans of Nintendo power. I figure somebody had to have scanned the classic issues
11:44:35 <jaymax> The latter three was the petproject after the Gamespot stonk hypefest.
11:45:38 <Nothing\> sweet, a torrent with issues 1-78 of nintendo power
11:45:41 <Nothing\> :D
11:45:58 <Nothing\> it's too bad i have no idea what happened to the original ones i had
11:46:16 <jaymax> Since, the shadowed reality behind that hypefest (and Wallstreetbets) was the M2 moneyprinting.
11:46:42 <jaymax> Yet I cannot crowd out this freaking Nintendo sidesory. ;^D
11:46:58 <Nothing\> like everything else i had with video games, my brother took what he could as soon as he had the chance because i got kicked out and he musta snatched up my shit at some point i dunno
11:47:10 <jaymax> DHess_US is probably gone anmyway
11:47:26 <Nothing\> and then when his wife kicked him out she got together with a crackhead who stole all of his shit and sold it for drug money
11:47:31 <Nothing\> his shit/my shit
11:48:13 <Nothing\> guy even stole a ps3 my brother got his daughter for her birthday. Said there was something wrong with it and "took it to get repaired" and it was never seen again
11:48:26 <Nothing\> his ex is a dumb cunt though for not pressing charges against the guy
11:48:42 <Nothing\> or you know, doing ANYTHING to try to recover at least anything that was stolen
11:49:02 <Nothing\> not to mention the fact that she let this piece of shit fuck her for so long
11:49:16 <Nothing\> but that's just how smart she is/was
11:50:00 * Nothing\ sighs
11:50:44 <Nothing\> i'll never forget some dipshit from highschool stole my gameboy color and all of my games for it... in 2000 cuz i'm sure you'll get a mint for that at a pawn shop in 2000.
11:52:25 <Nothing\> But I decided to look him up a few years ago and found out he got addicted to fentanyl and was in constant legal problems for thefts and stuff and during the night he was busted, the cops chased him up a tree where he snorted all of his fentanyl like a greedy squirrel, and then fell out of the tree and was arrested... like a squirrel that's been hit with a tranquilizer dart. lol
11:52:38 <Nothing\> at least that's how i imagine it all went down, as tragic as it is.
11:53:00 <Nothing\> in any case i hope the guy got and accepted the help he needed
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18:53:10 <Halcyon> Evening all
19:01:28 * Halcyon blows gently into T3sl4's ear
19:05:32 <hsn> hello Halcyon
19:07:19 <Halcyon> Hey hsn
19:07:23 <Halcyon> It's been a while
19:10:13 <steve30> hi
19:10:39 <steve30> i need to go to the gym
19:14:43 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
19:15:46 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
19:20:30 <jaymacks> Imma include this one too https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/many-viral-ukraine-war-videos-flooding-social-media-are-fake
19:27:39 <hsn> i need to record fail events in eeprom memory and not sure how to do that relaibly .. they are events so i dont feel like i need a FileSystem inside the eeprom .. but also i need to make it sort of circular buffer and have it wear resistance
19:29:09 <hsn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system .. reading about this and that but i feel like i need to redesign the software as its dumb right now and can write over not so old data .. because of 1 corrupted log ..
19:30:11 <Halcyon> Like a copy-on-write type scenario?
19:53:56 <hsn> hmm
19:54:47 <K> hello no clouds
19:54:57 <Halcyon> Hello... fog?
19:55:27 <hsn> it was somthing like this: https://snipboard.io/dDHSt3.jpg .. where i just store structs or raw data encapsulated with crc + counter ..
19:55:58 <hsn> structs are fixed size . ie events are fixed size ..
19:56:17 <hsn> so i know all events start address logically ..
19:56:26 <hsn> hello Kotato
19:56:51 <K> aye.
19:57:24 <hsn> and i should insert new logs based on counters .. and at boot i scan the eeprom to know which one was the last log ..
19:57:36 <K> well, with some work you could make the records arbitrary length
19:57:40 <hsn> to achieve the circular buffer .. but now .. its fcked up ..
19:57:41 <K> just track the size of payload in the header
19:58:13 <K> yes, scanning is the only reliable way to determine where you should write next or what was the last one
19:58:46 <hsn> but, u see .. some data are not relaible .. or curropted, due to power loss or somthing .. and now the scanning is missing it up ..
19:59:11 <K> the the best you can do is read up to the last good known position
19:59:35 <hsn> and i was cheap on "counter thingy" where i said .. i will use 1 byte counter if the eeprom slot size / record size < 254
19:59:54 <K> ugh :/
20:00:21 <hsn> so its not like "uint32" or "uint64" where i just increase numbers .. no .. its cheap ass 1-2 bytes .. with some logic
20:00:27 <hsn> and damn that decision ..
20:00:28 <hsn> :D
20:00:41 <K> uint16 should have been nice yea
20:00:51 <K> stingy hsn
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20:01:00 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ysjoelfir
20:01:03 <hsn> he joined .. i dont exist
20:01:12 * hsn hides
20:01:18 <K> (in sand)
20:01:21 <Ysjoelfir> WHERE IS HSN!?
20:01:26 <K> dunno
20:01:45 <K> off somewhere, doing hsn things prolly
20:01:52 <K> as he does
20:02:52 * hsn makes grasshopper sound
20:03:27 * Halcyon licks Ysjoelfir
20:03:53 <Ysjoelfir> dang it!
20:03:56 <Ysjoelfir> also, hi hercion
20:04:01 <Halcyon> Hello :)
20:13:12 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6deNJPNDYk
20:21:37 * T3sl4 farts
20:37:24 <hsn> storms are a thing ?
20:37:43 <Halcyon> hsn apparently :P
20:48:36 <T3sl4> amazingly enough, sometimes something other than sand falls out of the sky
21:01:43 <Ysjoelfir> today our news agencies announced that 300.000 wind power generators were not controllable anymore. they suspect russian hackers.
21:03:19 <Halcyon> Why don't they just disrupt their interwebs?
21:03:36 <Halcyon> We cut off their money, do the same for their comms
21:08:07 <Ysjoelfir> I am still not so sure how many of those news are completely true
21:08:42 <Halcyon> According to our news they blew up Russian missile launchers today
21:25:55 <K> they have been blowin shit up for last 5 days now
21:26:09 <K> turkish made drones go brrrrrrr
21:26:36 <K> suposedly they are so small that aa can not get a good lock on them
21:30:08 <Halcyon> Need to throw nets at them
21:30:11 <Halcyon> Or twine
21:31:55 <Ysjoelfir> or a nuke
21:32:13 <Halcyon> Or train birds to attack
21:33:01 <T3sl4> or a twink
21:33:08 <Halcyon> Pfft
21:33:14 <Halcyon> Gays can't throw for shit
21:33:22 * T3sl4 throws steve30's fishnets at Halcyon
21:33:44 <Halcyon> Argh. Tangles
21:33:57 <T3sl4> what you don't shave? pfft
21:34:07 <Halcyon> You know I do ;-)
21:35:17 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGtLoTL3aQ8
21:35:22 <Halcyon> My kind of humour
21:35:47 <T3sl4> he loves his mum very much
21:46:23 <Halcyon> Nighty night y'all
21:46:30 <T3sl4> o/
22:38:02 <T3sl4> mmm, i got the hydration level just right on this pizza
22:38:21 * Ysjoelfir empties a glass of water onto T3sl4 's pizza
22:38:42 * T3sl4 touches it, transforming it into beer'
22:40:39 <T3sl4> hot peppers, onion and pepperoni
22:55:34 <Ysjoelfir> I have a hot power outlet strip which my boss wants to make as a product while I am trying my best to make him forget that
22:56:08 <T3sl4> "hot"?
22:57:05 <Ysjoelfir> yes, with a lot of cold and pre-cracked solder joints straight from the factory, as well as PE and N wires rubbing against the live busbar and so on
22:57:20 <T3sl4> :S
22:58:52 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/137Yqw8S8QWxSL2gkHqZDDKPi3zYdatDj?usp=sharing
22:58:54 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy
23:00:21 <T3sl4> yeah, that's not pretty
23:00:32 <T3sl4> i wonder if they could use the busbar to actually crimp the wire in place
23:00:43 <Ysjoelfir> they could, I have seen it being done
23:00:52 <T3sl4> haven't looked at enough of em to know if they ever do. probably takes special tooling
23:01:10 <Ysjoelfir> also welding could be an option and is often done in the more highend ones (Brennenstuhl eg.)
23:01:17 <T3sl4> nice
23:01:32 <T3sl4> hm, welding not just brazing?
23:02:14 <Ysjoelfir> those red and black wires for the 230V input to the USB part are roughly 0.4mm2 btw... and only single insuklation and rubbing against the busbars
23:02:18 <Ysjoelfir> yep, spot welding
23:04:00 <Ysjoelfir> but anyway: lunch break!
23:04:19 * T3sl4 empties a glass of beer on Ysjoelfir's lunch break
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23:35:11 <Ampera> I wonder if the EU is actually intending to fasttrack ukraine in
23:35:37 <Ampera> certainly, they better hurry up, otherwise they won't have a country to induct soon
23:59:27 <Ysjoelfir> I highly doubt it
23:59:44 <Ampera> seems a weird move to make too
23:59:44 <Ysjoelfir> also, why is there beer in my non existing lunchbox?
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