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08:32 <LordGeir> Geesh Louise... I can NOT find the pin out for the Sharp LCD panel I posted yesterday. Grrrmff
08:56 <LordGeir> Datasheet no problem, but none of them contain a pinout
15:23 <MrMobodies> Hello
15:44 <rust1> hey-o
15:47 <LordGeir> Evening :)
16:12 <LordGeir> MrMobodies: The UPS I picked up yesterday was completely dead (the batteries)
16:20 <MrMobodies> A little better today. Yesterdays weather was like swamp condiitons
16:22 <MrMobodies> oooh
16:30 <MrMobodies> that's a shamge
16:39 <MrMobodies> oh sorry the batteries
16:42 <MrMobodies> does it power on though?
16:54 <LordGeir> Took it apart today and checked them and they were under 8.5V both
17:10 <MrMobodies> were they bulging on the sideS?
17:14 <LordGeir> Powers on, and I have the batteries on reconditioning now with a charger
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17:31 <rust1> what sort of battery?
17:33 <MrMobodies> they'd possibly recovery if they haven't bulged
17:41 <LordGeir> Nah, no bulging or anything. Completely fine, except dead
17:50 <MrMobodies> I think it was 2x 12v 7a
17:56 <LordGeir> rust1: 12V 7Ah lead acid batts (2x)
17:57 <MrMobodies> in series
18:00 <rust1> lead , ok
18:05 <LordGeir> Jupp, series
18:19 <rust1> yeah, you can probably get them going to some degree again
18:57 <LordGeir> The charger I got (cost an arm and a leg once) is awesome at saving batteries, as long as they're above 6V
19:06 <MrMobodies> ohh
19:09 <MrMobodies> what model is it?
19:28 <LordGeir> If not, I can get new batteries for 299kr a piece
20:07 <MrMobodies> I had one battery fail which I ulled out a month ago in one of my ups
20:21 <rust1> I have to keep an old charger around, because the modern ones just saw "nope, i do not think this is a battery" so I have to let them simmer for a bit on the old charger first, then the new charger works
20:23 <LordGeir> I think it's sold by Hamron now
20:28 <MrMobodies> It would cut off but be fine on lower loads. All the sides were bulging
20:39 <rust1> ctek?
21:02 <MrMobodies> better than burst charging them in parallel
21:18 <LordGeir> I can't for the life of me remember what the true name is, because it's rebranded as Hamron
21:36 <rust1> oh well, as long as it works
22:03 <LordGeir> If I had powered it on and tried charging the batts using the built in circuit (with them being that low), they would have cooked
22:24 <MrMobodies> like this one?
22:25 <MrMobodies> https://manuals.plus/hamron/012459-battery-charger-manual
22:26 <EEVBot> [url] HAMRON 012459 Battery Charger Instruction Manual - Manuals+ | manuals.plus
22:44 <MrMobodies> oh that's 12/24 no 6v
23:15 <LordGeir> I was 99% sure they hadn't seen power in many moons, so that's why I didn't want to charge it in place
23:22 <LordGeir> MrMobodies: That's the one!
24:46 <MrMobodies> 25a that's goof
24:50 <MrMobodies> *good
25:27 <steve30> i feel a bit better now i've had some fish and chips
25:39 <rust1> aww. I could use that
26:16 <MrMobodies> 800 amps in a 24 hours
27:32 <MrMobodies> Steve, was it like a swamp in your area yesterday?
27:41 <MrMobodies> with all the humidity
27:43 <LordGeir> I covers every need I have, but like rust1, I always keep an old school charger around for those odd ball cases where nothing is recognized
28:00 <MrMobodies> I have an old charger for round cells
28:09 <steve30> Well, I got wet when I went out in the rain
28:28 <MrMobodies> it only dribbled a little then got hot again
28:36 <MrMobodies> hardly any airflow
28:51 <MrMobodies> in this side of Camrbirdgeshire
32:16 <arch> i need to make a USB powered SLA battery charger
33:17 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/wZDRQRS.jpg
33:30 <MrMobodies> I use the round cells allot
33:38 <arch> probably can use a 24V synchronous buck converter in inverting config, and put a opamp or something for the constant current comparator
34:58 <arch> https://i.imgur.com/WUOX5Uz.png
35:13 <arch> replace the zener with a TL431 and bob's your uncle
35:29 <arch> tl431 section i mean
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42:10 <rust1> MrMobodies I am re downloading your windows. I put together a machine it can run on. now I just have to see what this macrium thing is, when it is done getting the files
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46:25 <rust1> the swiss flag looks like something is missing, imo...(immunk�rpermangelkrankheit)
46:33 <MrMobodies> aaah
47:06 <MrMobodies> Version 8, you don't need to enter an email address if there is no broadband access to install
47:22 <MrMobodies> I'd just select "free" edition
47:48 <rust1> yes, I am just getting the files, then unplugging the internet, then I will see what happens
49:57 <rust1> it seems like the networking thing on this machine needs a driver, to get its full speed. so it takes a little while, because I really so not want to install drivers on this temporary install
51:28 <rust1> as usual, this is a sort of oddball machine, it started as an acer g3-605.
52:09 <rust1> most of it still is, it just has a different case, and graphics cars
52:59 <rust1> should be plenty good enough to run windows on, without any gaming stuff happening, I think
57:26 <MrMobodies> that sould be ample
57:27 <MrMobodies> https://icecat.biz/en/p/acer/dt.sqyeg.332/predator-pcs-workstations-g3-605-28573330.html
57:28 <EEVBot> [url] Specs Acer Predator G3-605 i7-4790 Tower Intel® Core™ i7 8 GB DDR3L-SDRAM 1000 GB Hybrid-HDD Windows 8.1 PC Black, Orange PCs/Workstations (DT.SQYEG.332) | icecat.biz
57:33 <MrMobodies> that ge-605
57:49 <MrMobodies> oh
57:57 <MrMobodies> I expect it to perform well
58:08 <MrMobodies> I have been using that on a Duo Cores
58:29 <MrMobodies> I turned off superfetch service "SYSMAIN"
58:59 <rust1> oh, right. I think I tried that on something, and it did seem to work well
59:01 <MrMobodies> can speed things up at the expense of extra and hard disk bandwith with cache
59:06 <MrMobodies> aaah
59:38 <MrMobodies> the macrium v8 seems to have everything of the v7 but looks a bit bloated and unclear in some parts
59:47 <rust1> I think someone here mentioned it, so I tried it. but I do nto remember what machien it was on, lol
00:52 <MrMobodies> what's you plan
01:12 <MrMobodies> are young to run it in a virtual machine or extract it directly to a sata drive from the Macrum or use a rescue pendrive
01:58 <rust1> my plan, is that now the download is done, so I will unplug the internet, then extract to a second drive
02:57 <MrMobodies> aaah
03:30 <MrMobodies> when I said about installing Mactum I mean't about it bring up that registration when it senses a broadband connection
03:47 <MrMobodies> sorry if I didn't explain it well
04:11 <MrMobodies> but it only does that during the install when a broadband connection is present on v8
05:56 <MrMobodies> interesting board
05:58 <MrMobodies> https://images.esellerpro.com/2131/I/139/201/lrgscaleP1310839.JPG
06:23 <MrMobodies> I like how it seems there are proper spacing where the heatsink holes are
07:05 <MrMobodies> I have seen many boards where no space is left where the bolts could crush them
07:40 <MrMobodies> Oh I see, many normal capacitors
08:11 <MrMobodies> aaah 5 pin power connector
08:47 <MrMobodies> oh sorry 12 pin silly me
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10:51 <rust1> it is an odd power thing, yes.
12:50 <MrMobodies> any problems with it or is looking familiar?
12:59 <rust1> 6% done extracting
13:04 <MrMobodies> aah wonderful
13:06 <rust1> we will see
13:16 <MrMobodies> Joke: try that with Acronis
14:04 <MrMobodies> Apparently I read you could extract directly in Acronis prior to 2012
14:11 <rust1> I have never really used this kind of tool. most of the time, I mount the image, and just copy it over
14:39 <MrMobodies> well what's so nice about it, it is free
14:50 <MrMobodies> I was given a trial of it unlocked
14:52 <MrMobodies> back in 2018
15:12 <MrMobodies> and I paid for the workstation which was £60 pepertual
15:23 <MrMobodies> plus £10 a year for any upgrade
15:42 <MrMobodies> before that i used Ghost 11.5
15:51 <MrMobodies> but wouldn't make efi partition bootable
16:11 <MrMobodies> I never thought they'd make it free like that
17:10 <rust1> so, just to make it clear... when the windows is ready, you want me to still not connect to internet, or is that just for the macrron install part?
17:33 <MrMobodies> well without it at first
17:36 <MrMobodies> if you don't mind
17:40 <MrMobodies> I did remove the license keys
17:49 <rust1> sure, I just want to make sure
18:09 <MrMobodies> in pc settings it says "no license" but you never know they might still produce that key (I don't trust Micrsoft)
18:10 <rust1> if it was windows or macrumum you was talking about
18:21 <MrMobodies> oh Macrium (during install)
18:26 <MrMobodies> of the program I mean
18:31 <rust1> yes
18:33 <MrMobodies> and on windows (licensing)
18:38 <MrMobodies> just incase it brings up the old key
18:42 <rust1> ok, it says it is done. we will see
18:43 <MrMobodies> (my paranoia
19:34 <rust1> ok, that looks like windows-ish files are there, now reboot
22:54 <MrMobodies> is it "settng up new devices?"
23:02 <MrMobodies> or just hang on the circle
23:11 <rust1> it did that. now it is doing something
23:47 <rust1> "administrator, welcone"
23:54 <rust1> and desktop now
24:05 <MrMobodies> any new account should look like that
24:22 <MrMobodies> without the insulting patronising animation thng
24:30 <MrMobodies> disabled from group policy editor
24:42 <rust1> Ok, I need to move this around a bit, I am too old to sit on the floor, lol
26:04 <MrMobodies> I use to sit on the floor comfortably belly down now I find I cna't do that anymore
26:10 <MrMobodies> only belly up when I am working
27:09 <LordGeir> I used to be so comfortable on the floor; Then I got fat...
27:38 <MrMobodies> maybe I should exercise more
27:41 <MrMobodies> I am bit over weight
28:32 <rust1> heh, you are not the only one
28:53 <rust1> I am not that super fat, but... more than enough.
29:16 <MrMobodies> when it gets cooler I have bins to take out and water the garden
29:16 <rust1> I think I was 112kg the other day, iIrc
29:55 <rust1> I thought they banned watering the garden. maybe it is only in some areas
31:11 <MrMobodies> not at the moment
31:18 <MrMobodies> but they have written up that they should
31:34 <MrMobodies> I think there should be an exception for those who are growing their own food
31:37 <MrMobodies> in green houses
31:44 <MrMobodies> I know farmers have this exemption
32:42 <MrMobodies> any unpleasantness witht hat copy of Windows 10 yet?
32:42 <rust1> yes, growing food should be ok. making the lawn look better than the neighbors, not so much
33:00 <MrMobodies> anything like plants that serve no purpose
33:06 <MrMobodies> with food
33:09 <rust1> not yet. I did not really do anythng either.
33:28 <rust1> I made a little table it can sit on
33:32 <MrMobodies> aah wonderful
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38:38 <Ampera> mhm, I think i have found the problem with the washing machine
39:02 <Ampera> when you take the motor off the drain pump, and shake it, you can hear it being full of water
39:27 <rust1> what is the symptoms?
39:51 <rust1> does not drain?
41:22 <rust1> but, I am not sure what sort of motor your have, but I think the rotor part is just magnets, and the windings are in the housing, sort of, I do not think i tis uncommon for those to be full of water
42:06 <Ampera> rust1 drains when it wants to
42:13 <rust1> aha
42:13 <Ampera> at the moment, very much does not drain
42:33 <Ampera> well, it made a nice clunk when I turned it on
42:40 <Ampera> so either it's full of water, or it's full of dirt
42:44 <Ampera> either way, it's full of something not good
43:24 <rust1> MrMobodies what is edexter?
43:33 <MrMobodies> oooh
43:38 <MrMobodies> right click
43:44 <MrMobodies> leads to the host file
43:52 <MrMobodies> when turned on it disconnects website quickly
43:58 <MrMobodies> that are in the host file
44:01 <MrMobodies> 127.0.0.1
44:07 <rust1> you have included some stuff here, virtualbox, and google earth, and stuff.
44:11 <rust1> oh, ok.
44:17 <MrMobodies> used for spammy adhosts 20 years ago
44:39 <MrMobodies> it has options to put a symbol for whatever iframe it hides behind the
44:54 <rust1> itunes?
45:01 <MrMobodies> I put some essentials on there that i might use
45:05 <MrMobodies> an old copy from 2017
45:08 <MrMobodies> to use with the
45:12 <MrMobodies> an old tool called
45:18 <MrMobodies> SHAIRPORT
45:24 <MrMobodies> emulates speakers
45:34 <MrMobodies> and can be bound to a sound card
45:40 <MrMobodies> SHAIR4PORT i think
46:29 <MrMobodies> I thinks it's russian thouggh
47:05 <MrMobodies> google earth withotu the annoying ARROWS on streetview
47:51 <MrMobodies> aah found it
47:52 <MrMobodies> https://sourceforge.net/projects/shairport4w/
47:53 <EEVBot> [url] Shairport4w download | SourceForge.net | sourceforge.net
48:00 <MrMobodies> that's what i use that particiular version of Itunes for
48:20 <MrMobodies> after that they changed it so it doesn't recognise the emulated speakers
48:47 <MrMobodies> https://s.getwinpcsoft.com/screenshots/5578/5578522_1.jpg
48:56 <MrMobodies> can also use it to record
49:19 <MrMobodies> I installed latest chrome with no extensions
49:28 <MrMobodies> on the quicklaunch right
49:57 <MrMobodies> and next to it Vivaldi with extensions and preloaded with my blocklist... oh actually that is a network blocklist
51:07 <MrMobodies> there't other stuff on there
51:10 <MrMobodies> Irfanview
51:20 <MrMobodies> infrarecorder
51:48 <MrMobodies> Startmenu maintenance... Gmsmartcontrol and some reg shortcuts to restore the sizes and the colours if it defaults
52:02 <MrMobodies> and videolan and classic media player
52:41 <MrMobodies> oh Uniextract to help with mass zip and some installers
53:29 <MrMobodies> what I forgot to put on there is process monitor and there's something else that I'll include
53:49 <MrMobodies> is it quick?
54:00 <MrMobodies> I left Windows defender
54:04 <MrMobodies> but that can be removed manually
54:12 <MrMobodies> and it will disappear from "PC settings"
54:34 <rust_collector> well, it starts up pretty quick, I did not do much yet, I am inside eating dinner now
54:52 <MrMobodies> okay
55:29 <rust_collector> it starts pretty quick, even from an oooold spinning drive, so it can not be that bad
56:50 <MrMobodies> no "apps" to update in the background
56:57 <MrMobodies> Superfetch is switched off
57:17 <MrMobodies> and Search indexer is on but don't search anywhere until paths are added
57:52 <MrMobodies> I mean it doesn't search until path are added or plugins for programs that use it
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54:25 <Nothing\> man wtf, the page on IBM about the flight computer they made for the space shuttle has like 1 paragraph of information about it.
54:59 <Nothing\> you'd think the manufacturer's site would have more information than any other resource. At least that would be the common sense expectation.
55:13 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
55:16 <Ampera> how are you doing fren?
55:39 <Nothing\> then again, even NASA's page on the Voyager crafts only had 1 paragraph for maybe 10 different parts of it. But they at least pointed me to what i needed to read about
55:43 <Nothing\> heya Ampera!
55:48 * Nothing\ tackle-hugs Ampera 
55:57 <Ampera> how are you do fren?
56:01 <Nothing\> i'm doing well, managed to poop good again this morning so, no pain.
56:09 <Nothing\> how about you?
56:16 <Nothing\> i also learned to type super fast :P
56:23 <Ampera> oh, finally?
56:28 <Nothing\> re: responding to your question in 5 seconds
56:31 <Nothing\> lol finally
56:35 <Nothing\> dude you forget
56:38 <Ampera> I'm recovering from fixing a washing machine sorta kinda
56:44 * Nothing\ uses his "stuck up" voice
56:47 <Nothing\> i use dvorak
56:49 <Ampera> and am also trying to beat lxc into submission
56:58 <Nothing\> the fastest way to type EVER in the history of manity
57:05 <Nothing\> wait
57:07 <Nothing\> manitee
57:09 <Nothing\> lol
57:21 <Nothing\> somebody needs to name a manitee hugh right now
57:41 <Nothing\> lol talk about an ADD moment
57:50 <Nothing\> lxc?
57:55 <Nothing\> sounds like an API
57:56 * LordGeir wonders if anyone here knows what AGC code 999 was?
57:56 <Ampera> linux containers
58:03 <Nothing\> ah i wasn't far off
58:07 <Ampera> LordGeir, it means you have 6 months to live
58:09 <Nothing\> something nerdy programming :P
58:18 <LordGeir> :)
58:24 <Nothing\> LordGeir, AGC sounds vaguely familiar
58:39 <LordGeir> Apollo Guidance Computer
58:44 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i just remembered installing a compiler or something for BrainFuck a few months ago
58:51 <Nothing\> i should try making something in it
58:51 <LordGeir> The computer that landed Eagle
59:03 <Nothing\> oh right, that's why it sounds familiar
59:16 <Nothing\> i watched as much of that curious marc series on it as i could. It was a loooong series.
59:46 <LordGeir> When they were just about to land, the question (as they were called) asked 999, which was: "Are you sure you want to land on the moon?"
59:47 <Nothing\> that's the unfortunate thing about channels like him, or The Signal Path. The videos are so full of content, there's just too much to watch.
00:02 <Nothing\> and i haven't the attention span to sit through an 80 minute video about mm waves anymore
01:20 <Nothing\> LordGeir, heh i actually played with a (sim?)/emulator of apollo's DSKY and AGC
01:33 <Nothing\> about the verb/noun structure of the commands and a few basic commands
01:38 <Nothing\> but i never got further than that
01:48 <Nothing\> (ADD again grr)
02:05 <LordGeir> Cool! I was thinking about downloading the code and giving it a once over
02:19 <rust1> it needs an update by now
02:27 <Nothing\> go for it dude
02:31 <LordGeir> It's amazing that they did that in '69 and haven't done since
02:33 <Nothing\> what have you got to lose
02:50 <rust1> I hope someone rewrites it in python, so we will never get it working again
03:26 <Nothing\> lol i really hate python just because it seems useless as a scripting language
03:33 <Nothing\> not useless per se, but limited
03:55 <LordGeir> Python is actually one of the better languages for machine learning and algorithms
03:56 <Nothing\> but when i thinking scripted language, i can't help but think of VBasic or something
04:08 <Nothing\> i don't think it was scripted but that's the general sense i have
04:14 <Nothing\> that python is like a modern VB
04:14 <LordGeir> Oh God... VBScript :(
04:18 <Nothing\> that was it
04:20 <Nothing\> VBScript
04:22 <Nothing\> thank you
04:29 <Nothing\> haha i completely forgot that existed
04:30 <rust1> now you did it...
04:51 <Nothing\> yeah VBScript i associate with viruses
05:03 <Nothing\> or malware anyways, because that's the only application i've ever seen it used in
05:04 <LordGeir> Same
05:22 <LordGeir> Seems like 90+% was written in VBScript
05:23 <Nothing\> also it didn't seem to last very long. Maybe 10 years tops.
06:13 <Nothing\> lol a guy once offered me a programming gig writing some automotive software for him when we got talking at our regular telemarketing job, this was like 20 years ago btw.
06:26 <rust1> https://imgur.com/a/DqcL9el
06:26 <EEVBot> [url] Imgur: The magic of the Internet | imgur.com
06:31 <Nothing\> i was newly engaged and a father to be so i needed the extra scratch
06:36 <rust1> ding dong ping pong
07:15 <rust1> 1024x768 always looks great
07:24 <Nothing\> and it was sort of laid back, we were friendsly so it was basically just gonna be me working at his place on his computer, I guess working remotely wasn't a thing yet i dunno.
08:54 <Nothing\> anyways we decide to just hang out one day and have him give me a rundown of the job etc. So he comes by my place to pick me up. I go over there etc. And he's got a 6 pack there for me. Nice, I think. And happily drink it. He sorta went over the project which seemed to be just some simple VB program that I don't even know wtf it did or what company would take it seriously. But I didn't know that much back then.
09:08 <LordGeir> 20 or so years ago I worked for a web host in Norway, and they were hosting tens of thousands of sites on dozens of servers; All on a 10 Mbit line :O
09:46 <Nothing\> I noticed a large rainbow pride flag in his living room, which for 2003 was odd. Being gay was still considered a bad thing so I was kind of wary but willing to be open-minded.
10:07 <Nothing\> i never knew a gay person so i didn't really know what to expect
11:00 <Nothing\> so we watched Cube while i drank my 6 pack and when the 6 pack was done he offered to take me to the liquor store and get me whatever I wanted. And being 19 I was all over that offer, not realizing the underlying intention.
11:16 <Nothing\> but probably luckily for me, the liquor stores were closed as it was a sunday afternoon.
11:54 <Nothing\> then when we were back at his place, I'm sitting there watching a movie or something and the son of a bitch starts trying to give me a back rub
12:07 <Nothing\> meanwhile he KNOWS I'm engaged... to a woman.
12:38 <Nothing\> so i tell him to screw off and go into the bathroom, where I find the biggest friggin bottle of xanax i've ever seen with somebody else's name on it.
12:47 <Nothing\> which xanax makes a fine daterape drug btw.
13:27 <Nothing\> but it's also a good get you really fucked up drug too, so i pocketed the bottle and left. Never to return. Harboring homophobia for years afterwards.
14:10 <Nothing\> it wasn't until I spent a decade or so in an IRC community about drugs that was full of LGBT people that I became good friends with them and opened up to them and realized they're not all like that.
14:23 <Nothing\> Some of my best friends were LGBT
15:10 <Ampera> the implication that I am not your best friend
15:11 <Ampera> :?
15:13 <Nothing\> and it was remarkable because being IRC, you can't see if the person's male, female, looks male, looks female etc. So you only have how they talk to go by and when it came down to that, everybody was pretty much indistinguishable from one another.
15:14 <Ampera> er, :/
15:21 <Nothing\> Ampera, honestly right now you are
15:24 <Nothing\> believe it or not
15:27 <Ampera> >.>
15:29 <Ampera> I regret asking
15:32 <Nothing\> being that you're my only friend
15:39 <Ampera> >.>
15:51 <Nothing\> well i shouldn't say that, the meaning of friend has kind of become muddied thanks to facebook
16:00 <Nothing\> i guess i consider a bunch of you guys friends
16:12 <Nothing\> i'm only reluctant because i feel like a real friend should be in real life
16:16 <Ampera> I've never used facebook
16:18 <rust1> well, you thought I was female, so...
16:25 <Nothing\> rust1, just for a second lol
16:33 <Nothing\> because you said something incredibly confusing
16:49 <rust1> that is my reason for being
16:58 <Nothing\> also it wouldn't be the first time i've talked to someone for ages only to find they're the opposite gender of what i thought
17:08 <Nothing\> rust1, raisin detra
17:30 <rust1> oh, you know hungarian. awesome
17:32 <rust1> you too!
17:33 <Nothing\> okay i gotta eat these bacon and eggs now
17:42 <Nothing\> rust1, lol actually I DO know some hungarian
17:54 <rust1> magyar posta
18:01 <Ampera> Nothing\, it's a rookie mistake, read internet rule 30 and try again
18:06 <Nothing\> my great uncle was hungarian and him and my aunt used to talk to their dogs in hungarian
18:22 <Ampera> rust1, I once had a video card delivered by that guy
18:33 <Nothing\> i'm not sure if it's hungarian or german, but she used to call me and the other kids "schutzule"
18:41 <Nothing\> shut-sul-ah
19:01 <Nothing\> or with the dogs she'd always say ULE! to get them off the couch
19:10 <Nothing\> er sorry
19:14 <Nothing\> the "chesterfield"
19:21 <Nothing\> lol
19:35 <Nothing\> she's the only person i've ever known to call couches chesterfields
20:17 <Nothing\> it was sad though. Before he died, my great uncle had a bunch of serious strokes that destroyed his language center. So he completely forgot how to speak English and could only speak Hungarian.
20:33 <Nothing\> that was actually my first exposure to the effects of a stroke. Watching his decline.
21:03 <Nothing\> Then the same for my aunt, she had a damn stroke when i was visiting her once but the stubborn frau she is, she wouldn't go to the hospital
21:10 <Nothing\> and yeah she was german
21:30 <rust1> you need some Szentgy�rgy
21:33 <Nothing\> heh i've already been initiated. I had my first stroke before i was 30
21:40 <Nothing\> syzygy?
21:56 <Nothing\> I don't know what sound that big square with FFFD in it means
22:18 <rust1> probably an o with dots on top
23:13 <rust1> https://ddr-rezepte.net/palatschinken-szentgyoergy/
23:13 <EEVBot> [url] Palatschinken "Szentgyörgy" » DDR-Rezept » einfach & genial! | ddr-rezepte.net
24:07 <Nothing\> i think i've had some scenty orgies before
24:14 <Nothing\> :P
24:39 <Nothing\> pancakes?
24:45 <Nothing\> that's what it translates as
25:15 <Nothing\> it goes on to give the recipe for it
25:40 <Nothing\> i thought you were gonna say some non-english word that should belong in english like shaudenfraude
25:45 <Nothing\> freude?
26:20 <rust1> pancake, yes. with stuff
27:29 <rust1> I think that szhdkdfghedfi is a place name
27:40 <MrMobodies> just finished watering the garden
27:50 <MrMobodies> oh I don't mean the garden
27:54 <MrMobodies> I mean the my crops
28:09 <rust1> hehe, yes... mmhmmm.
28:11 <MrMobodies> some potatoes in the back
28:18 <MrMobodies> a small greenhouse
28:33 <MrMobodies> and some massive root like things
28:37 <MrMobodies> corjets
28:40 <rust1> greenhouses need a LOT of water to grow
28:42 <MrMobodies> and onions
28:53 <MrMobodies> well the plants are small in there
28:57 <MrMobodies> they are in pots
29:01 <MrMobodies> herbs
29:04 <MrMobodies> used in the curry
29:15 <MrMobodies> and there a few large pots on he ground
29:29 <MrMobodies> but it is about 2m by 3 meters I think
29:33 <MrMobodies> it's not big
29:39 <MrMobodies> it came with the house
29:44 <MrMobodies> oh and some lettuce
29:54 <MrMobodies> I'll take some pictures tomorrow
30:06 <rust1> you can grow a lot in there, even if there is not a lot of space
30:07 <MrMobodies> hows the windows 10 thing getting along
30:08 <MrMobodies> oh
30:16 <MrMobodies> well lots of room and beds
30:19 <MrMobodies> my dad built
30:29 <MrMobodies> corjets and there is another one
30:37 <MrMobodies> actually they take a lot of water
30:41 <MrMobodies> so many leaves
30:46 <MrMobodies> and many of them
31:13 <rust1> I did look around the install a bit. I am not very annoyed by anything yet, I will try to use it a bit, but not today
31:24 <MrMobodies> let me know if you want a key
31:29 <MrMobodies> and Ill gift it to you
31:43 <MrMobodies> so you can connect it up
32:03 <MrMobodies> what I should have done
32:10 <MrMobodies> installed a key onto one of mine stuff
32:16 <MrMobodies> then give it out
32:22 <rust1> well, there is no real point. if you can, give that to Ysjoelfir in stead, he can test this stuff much better than I can
32:25 <MrMobodies> I put it on a customers laptop you see
32:33 <MrMobodies> okay
32:47 <MrMobodies> it's not perfect but its to the way I like it
32:55 <MrMobodies> the best I can get it to behave
33:00 <rust1> I do not use windows enough that it is worth buying me a license for it
33:19 <MrMobodies> after they betrayed everyone in 2016 I am not surprised
33:29 <MrMobodies> and the way the treated non tablet users in 2012
33:58 <MrMobodies> I mean the forced updates to windows 10
34:08 <DHess_US> rust1, what I do is buy a grey market license from the EU.
34:22 <MrMobodies> I had many customers who had boot up problems because of it
34:29 <rust1> the first new computer I bought, came with linux, so I have just stayed with that. there are a few places i use windows, but that is just to get some program started
34:38 <MrMobodies> it was to do with the bootloader
34:50 <MrMobodies> aaah
34:55 <MrMobodies> yes
35:18 <rust1> DHess_US I have plenty of licenses, but this is the ltsc(?) version, so needs a real license, I guess
35:37 <DHess_US> Oh? https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key
35:37 <EEVBot> [url] Attention Required! | Cloudflare | www.kinguin.net
35:46 <MrMobodies> yes, I can get one for atually it has gone up to £17
35:54 <DHess_US> That *is* a real license.
35:59 <MrMobodies> sometimes the seller sells it for £5
36:07 <MrMobodies> a volume license
36:12 <MrMobodies> that is the catch
36:21 <rust1> I have real ones. but only up to pro
36:25 <MrMobodies> the volumer licensor can abuse their position and cancel your key
36:32 <MrMobodies> I get them from
36:46 <MrMobodies> https://softkeys.uk/collections/windows/products/windows-10-home-product-key-32-64-bit-retail-version-2
36:47 <EEVBot> [url] Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019 Product Key License Digital - Instant | softkeys.uk
36:57 <MrMobodies> I had them two years now
37:03 <MrMobodies> and have not been let down yet
37:10 <MrMobodies> but I am still skeptical
37:29 <MrMobodies> the iso image is direct from microsoft
37:37 <MrMobodies> so I was pleased about that
37:51 <Nothing\> man you know what i just remembered? tangrams
38:05 <DHess_US> I thing I don't like about it is that since I am in the US, I can't use a prepaid card for it. I have to use my bank card.
38:26 <Nothing\> those puzzles where you get a few triangles and squares and trapezoids and you have to tile them to fit a specific shape
38:31 <Nothing\> or just make a square out of them
38:36 <DHess_US> The US no longer allows the use of prepaid cards for purchases outside the US. They want to know exactly who is spending money.
38:56 <MrMobodies> you mean that softkeys website
39:01 <MrMobodies> I pay using Paypal
39:02 <Nothing\> DHess_US, that explains why i could never set up an ebay account using one
39:19 <MrMobodies> aaah
39:19 <Nothing\> but still not why ebay never let me (in the past anyways) set up an account with my debit/credit card
39:29 <MrMobodies> and they want to know who is taking the money?
39:47 <Nothing\> which is a debit card, but acts just like a credit card in that you can charge things to it online etc. Just no line of credit outside of what's on your bank account(s)
40:18 <Nothing\> but for some reason at least several years ago last time i tried, eBay never accepted mine. Maybe it's changed in recent years but I'm in no hurry to get an ebay account.
40:53 <Nothing\> I just found an American 5 radio this morning for $160 that i KNOW i would have bought if i had an account. I don't need that kind of financial liability.
41:49 <DHess_US> Nothing\, it has to do with the "know your customer" laws. Anonymous payments are not allowed across the border in the US anymore. They say it is to prevent money laundering and funding terrorists, but it is used to track purchases.
41:49 <Nothing\> speaking of finances, i read in the news that some lucky jerkoff won $1.2 BILLION in some Mega Millions lottery.
42:11 <Nothing\> i'd say it must be nice, but there are some real horror stories about winning the lottery
42:27 <Nothing\> all sorts of people come out of the woodwork to try and scam you or milk you for everything you've got
43:02 <Nothing\> DHess_US, that makes a lot of sense actually. People could easily skirt sanctions for one thing.
43:13 <Nothing\> or easier
43:18 <Nothing\> easierly? lol
43:28 <DHess_US> Wouldn't make any difference for sanctions.
43:52 <DHess_US> The prohibition is based on knowing who the person in the US is, not who the person outside the US.
45:07 <Nothing\> ah
45:42 <Nothing\> heh speaking of which, i guess the US just found that Huawei wanted to install a bunch of cell towers near military installations that would have the capability to interfere with nuclear missile launches and other operations
46:58 <Nothing\> and I guess the Chinese government offered to build some grand garden in DC with pagodas and stuff. Very lavish and beautiful. But when the government looked into it, they found the pagodas happened to be at the highest or one of the highest points of the city and were prime locations for spying on key federal buildings like the Capitol and Whitehouse.
47:41 <Nothing\> it's funny because Huawei was banned in Canada in recent years due to concerns that they could end up spying
48:03 <Nothing\> which sure, it's fine when other Western countries spy on us. But far be it for anyone else to do it.
58:00 <Nothing\> i never realized the logo for HAL Laboratories is a dog nursing 3 eggs...
58:02 <Nothing\> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_Laboratory#/media/File:HAL_Laboratory_Logo.svg
58:03 <EEVBot> Nothing\: Error fetching section "/media/File:HAL_Laboratory_Logo.svg" for page "HAL Laboratory".
58:28 <Nothing\> or is it brooding them?
58:41 <Nothing\> either way it's weird
58:53 <Nothing\> i bet the eggs are full of bees
59:21 <rust1> flies and other things that can spread disease
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33:51 <Ampera> hopefully this is the last goddamn time I have to reboot that server
33:53 <Ampera> for a little while anyways
33:58 <Ampera> just installed new fans
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34:26 <Nothing\> Ampera, did i ever show you the server cpu amazon's selling
34:34 <Nothing\> i had to have
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34:49 <Nothing\> https://www.amazon.ca/EPYC-7742-Tetrahexaconta-core-Core-Processor/dp/B07XGB7S36
34:50 <EEVBot> [url] AMD EPYC (2nd Gen) 7742 Tetrahexaconta-core (64 Core) 2.25 GHz Processor - Retail Pack - 256 MB Cache - 3.40 GHz Overclocking Speed - 7 nm - Socket SP3-225 W - 128 Threads : Amazon.ca: Electronics | www.amazon.ca
34:59 <Ampera> ok
35:02 <Nothing\> yeah actually this sounds familiar now
35:04 <Ampera> what's special about it
35:06 <Ampera> and no you didn't
35:09 <Nothing\> ah
35:12 <Nothing\> it's on amazon
35:16 <Nothing\> and it's crap, as you'd expect
35:21 <Ampera> what's crap about it
35:33 <Nothing\> the only review has one star because the guy spent thousands of dollars because it didn't work in a board it was meant to work in
36:14 <Nothing\> it seems to me if you're buying something that costs thousands of dollars, a janky site like amazon isn't the best place
36:19 <Nothing\> maybe just buy it from the manufacturer
36:28 <Ampera> I mean it's not actually sold by amazon
36:31 <Ampera> it's an independent seller on amazon
36:35 <Nothing\> exactly
36:43 <Nothing\> so it could be anyone and of any quality
36:46 <Nothing\> which it usually is
36:49 <Nothing\> and was
36:56 <Ampera> I need to show you the packaging my i9 came in, one sec
37:00 <Nothing\> plus it's marked up
37:05 <Nothing\> lol overdone?
37:33 <Nothing\> i remember when CPUs just came in a box with a plastic clamshell in it and a foam pad for the pins
37:46 <Nothing\> when BGA was an oddity
37:50 <Ampera> https://imgur.com/a/kmyZrNt
37:50 <Nothing\> at least to me
37:50 <EEVBot> [url] Imgur: The magic of the Internet | imgur.com
38:10 <Ampera> it's pretty neat
38:18 <Nothing\> lol are they selling you a chip or a friggin wafer?
38:23 <Ampera> yes
38:35 <Nothing\> that is pretty cool, i'll give you that
39:09 <Nothing\> but what would be cooler is if for the sake of authenticity. Instead of a hologram, glue the die of a lesser chip to the box
39:55 <Nothing\> although it'd probably just look like a mirror to the naked eye
40:15 <Nothing\> i guess you could etch some cool design into inferior wafers
40:20 <Nothing\> ones that couldn't cut the mustard
40:38 * Nothing\ shrugs
40:38 <EEVBot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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52:53 <rust_collector> AHA!
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53:13 <Ampera> that was not, in fact, the last goddamn time
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23:24 * Halcyon cuddles Ampera
23:28 <Halcyon> Welcome home electrohead
25:06 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
25:12 <Ampera> how are you do fren?
25:30 <Halcyon> Yeh not too bad, a bit tired. Went to sleep way too late last night.
25:33 <Halcyon> How are you?
25:46 <Ampera> have been having a 3 day long battle with my new server
25:53 <Ampera> and a washing machine
26:07 <Halcyon> Oh?
26:12 <Ampera> I've been fixing things non-stop since saturday afternoon
26:46 <Ampera> I'm no longer using FreeBSD on my server, instead I've switched to Debian and LXC
26:55 <Ampera> something I've been considering for a while
27:20 <Halcyon> Oh I see
27:21 <Ampera> Figuring out LXC's stupidities has taken up a decent amount of my time, particularly since the documentation for LXC is absolute dogshit
27:59 <Halcyon> Sounds like you have more patience than I have
28:00 <Ampera> lemme get you a picture of my new server's inside
28:02 <Ampera> I do
28:08 <Ampera> never let it be said I am not patient
28:08 <Halcyon> I'd love to see your insides
28:09 <Halcyon> :P
28:28 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855640889610993664/1003067223721648278/20220730_183024.jpg
28:40 <Ampera> The three fans on the right have since been replaced with Noctua fans (as of like an hour ago)
28:53 <Halcyon> Much quieter?
28:57 <Ampera> and more airflow
29:02 <Halcyon> Nice
29:09 <Ampera> noise wasn't really a concern, I primarily just wanted decent fans with decent airflow
29:14 <Ampera> those fans came with this case, and are an unknown variable
29:15 <Halcyon> I see
29:29 <Ampera> I've currently got 60TB of storage in this machine
30:12 <Halcyon> I've been toying with the idea of building another NAS. Not that I'm urgently running low on space, but I'm about 70% of the way there.
32:00 <DHess_US> I bought a bunch of these and have not been happy, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KFCRF1A/
32:01 <EEVBot> [url] Amazon.com: Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM, Heavy Duty Cooling Fan, 4-Pin, 3000 RPM (140mm, Black) : Electronics | www.amazon.com
32:08 <Ampera> I might try to buy a SAS expander at some point, and save a slot
32:15 <DHess_US> poorly balanced so they make more noise than they should.
32:33 <Ampera> I currently have a 16 lane SAS card, and an 8 lane SAS card, but I have 20 drive bays
33:02 <Ampera> DHess_US, interesting. Noctua has a pretty significant reputation as the people who get things right
33:07 <Ampera> the seasonic of cooling
33:17 <DHess_US> I think their reputation is all words.
33:28 <Ampera> I'm quite happy with the ones I have, they're very quiet, and do a good job
33:31 <Ampera> airflow is decent
33:46 <Ampera> have you ruled out just having gotten a bad batch?
33:47 <DHess_US> I have used faster tubeaxial fans which were both quieter and more powerful.
33:56 <DHess_US> What, all of them?
34:14 <Ampera> well, if you have a significant quantity, that would answer my intentionally general question
34:52 <Ampera> I have three of https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BEZZBFO which are their airflow optimized units
34:53 <EEVBot> [url] Amazon.com: Noctua NF-S12A PWM, Premium Quiet Fan, 4-Pin (120mm, Brown) : Electronics | www.amazon.com
34:57 <DHess_US> I have three. They are way out of balance compared to industrial fans that I have used in the past.
35:34 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
36:03 <Ampera> Anyways, this Adaptec controller is really nice, but I have an entire other LSI controller just sitting there for 4 drives
36:10 <DHess_US> I deliberately set the PWM controller to run them at slightly different speeds so they do not injection lock making the noise and vibration worse.
36:25 <Ampera> the only annoying thing about SAS expanders is they seem to only make ones that take up PCIe slots. Looks like a common suggestion is to use a mining riser and to just bodge it
36:27 <Ampera> which is fine by me
36:30 <DHess_US> I have old Areca controllers.
36:47 <DHess_US> A 4 port, an 8 port, and a 12 port.
37:01 <DHess_US> I really like the firmware on them.
37:02 <Ampera> This board has quite a lot of PCIe for a consumer board, so it'd be nice to put that to use for NVMe
37:30 <Ampera> or 10GbE if I ever end up using that again
37:59 <DHess_US> When I built my workstation last year, I had to look specifically for a board with 3 fast PCIe slots to support RAID, network, and graphics. Most consumer boards now only have two maximum.
38:31 <DHess_US> When I built my phenom 2 workstation 10 years ago, boards like that were much more common and less expensive.
38:43 <Ampera> This ASUS board has 4 16x (physical) PCIe slots
38:51 <DHess_US> I think what changed is that crossfire and SLI are no longer used.
39:04 <Ampera> one is 16x actual, and the other three are 4x. They seem to bifrucate across PCIe versions to make up the difference
39:22 <Ampera> Aye, and fewer people really make use of expansion cards in general
39:42 <Ampera> nobody has sounds cards, dedicated network cards (as much), TV cards, and thunderbolt's made this all even more irrelevant
40:03 <Ampera> being able to stick 4 actual PCIe cards in and use them at half way decent speeds is pretty good though
40:37 <Ampera> ASUS also sells a quad m.2 expansion board for the 16x slot, which works off bifrucation (eliminating the need fo an expensive switch)
40:56 <Ampera> I could quite easily stick 7 m.2 SSDs in this machine (there's 3 already)
45:06 <DHess_US> Most boards now have 2 PCIE with either 8/8 or 8/4. What I got is 8/8/4
45:22 <DHess_US> Which is good enough, but I figured I needed 3 slots.
45:47 <DHess_US> sorry, most are 16/4
45:52 <Ampera> That's something I'll kinda miss about my outgoing proliant. It has I think 13 PCIe slots, half 16x half 8x
46:04 <Ampera> All PCIe 2.0, but still that's a lot of PCIe
46:11 <DHess_US> Of course you can get lots and lots of slots with a threadripper or epyc.
46:59 <DHess_US> And then mine also has enough 3 x PCIex1
47:05 <DHess_US> err, another
48:35 <electrohead> \o/
51:18 <Ampera> hey electrohead how are you doing
51:47 <electrohead> hey man
51:53 <electrohead> good here, just got home from PA
52:00 <electrohead> what about you?
53:38 <jaymax> In bed
53:59 <jaymax> Work tomorrow, then off for a week.
54:00 <Ampera> just had a big server building blowout
54:03 <Ampera> and am still working on server stuff
54:27 <jaymax> Everything must go?
55:16 <Ampera> jaymax, yes actually, if you want a big 1000W HP branded space heater, it's yours for the right price
55:26 <electrohead> lol
55:34 <jaymax> Oooooo
56:06 <jaymax> Does it come with an ASIC miner?
56:15 <electrohead> Ampera: what's the full specs of it, out of curiosity?
56:22 <Halcyon> Sorry was in a meeting. What did I miss?
56:30 * electrohead hugs Halcyon's face
56:38 <Halcyon> Aww :-)
56:43 <jaymax> Talking big supplies
56:52 <Halcyon> Bigger the better
57:34 <jaymax> Until it reams the breaker panel
57:55 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://twitter.com/pcb_Johnny/status/1554039734833258497
57:55 <EEVBot> [Twitter] PCBBUY-Regina (@pcb_Johnny): Our customer's cute duck PCB ⏎ Two- color solder mask. ⏎ Please click here and quote: https://pcbbuy.com/online_pcb_quote.html?c=S106 https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1554039559729475584/pu/vid/1280x720/Oe4DcmOKe2NTXcxk.mp4?tag=12 | 2 RTs | 34 ♥s | Posted: 2022-08-01 - 09:42:00UTC
58:01 <Halcyon> I want a Goose button
58:30 <Ampera> electrohead, i9-12900k, 64GB DDR4-3600, 3x1TB NVMe SSD, 60TB spinning rust (mostly HGST UltraStars), 6x4 SAS-II lanes across two controllers, 4x broadcom GbE, 1x 2.5 realtek GbE (meh)
58:39 <T3sl4> cute
58:41 <Ampera> 750W seasonic PSU
59:19 <Ampera> Despite only having 8 cores, it's twice as powerful as the 52 I had before, and takes around 1/5th the power
59:28 <Ampera> er, 16 cores
59:34 <Ampera> 8+8
59:57 <electrohead> nice, what's the lowest price you would take?
00:10 <Ampera> oh, you were asking about the server I'm selling
00:21 <electrohead> oh, yeah
00:23 <electrohead> lol
00:41 <electrohead> but, nice specs for the new server as well :p
01:01 <Ampera> That's a Proliant DL580G7, 4xE7-4870, 128GB ECC DDR3, 4x300GB 10K SAS, and the sleds for 4 more LFF SAS drives
01:13 <Ampera> 4x1GbE, and like 13 PCie slots (comes with the second PCie backplane)
01:18 <Ampera> it has 4x1200W PSUs
01:53 <Ampera> I'm also selling a https://www.supermicro.com/products/archive/motherboard/x8dt3-ln4f (top SKU with onboard SAS and lights out), with dual X5680's and 48GB of ECC DDR3
01:54 <EEVBot> [url] X8DT3-LN4F | Motherboards | Products - Super Micro Computer, Inc. | www.supermicro.com
02:05 <electrohead> 4 PSUs? damn lol
02:06 <Ampera> just the motherboard, CPUs, and RAM (comes with some heatsinks without fans)
02:16 <Ampera> yeah, is it any wonder I'm trying to get rid of it
02:27 <electrohead> I see :p
02:39 <Ampera> I actually ran it off a 240V subpanel I built to split up a 50A stove outlet into dual 15A 240V dual phase circuits
03:11 <Ampera> The supermicro board is probably closer to something you might want. It's feasibly ran on a plebian PSU and a somewhat normal server case
03:41 <Ampera> I'd let that go for 200USD+shipping if you're interested
04:02 <Ampera> The proliant I will probably try to sell local because it weighs a million fucking pounds]
04:26 <Ampera> although, I /am/ coming to see you in a month, so it might be something I'd be convinced to bring with me >.>
06:59 <electrohead> hrmm
07:12 <electrohead> well, I'd have to come up with some money, if I would decide on that
07:54 <Ampera> The proliant would be more, I'd probably want to offload it for somewhere near 600-800 bucks.
08:26 <Ampera> but in all honesty, I'm trying to find someone who isn't bright enough to do the math and realize that it's worth more dead than alive
08:34 <Ampera> (not you)
11:02 <electrohead> lmfao
11:10 <electrohead> yeah I was jut curious what specs and price
16:10 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlhVK-eMPKA
16:11 <EEVBot> [url] Steak Boiled in Mayonnaise (NSE) - YouTube | www.youtube.com
16:13 <electrohead> o.o
19:01 <Halcyon> That looks fucking rank
20:19 <Ampera> electrohead, Halcyon, you guys and I are forming a crack team to find out who this motherfucker is, and wipe him off the face of the earth
20:31 <Halcyon> Mmm?
20:48 <Ampera> the steak in mayonnaise guy
20:53 <Halcyon> Oh
21:59 <Halcyon> Damn, he has that stupid domain privacy on his domain
22:08 <Ampera> lol
22:24 <jaymax> Looks like something I'd do. That's how you get beef stroganoff right?
22:32 <electrohead> lol
22:41 <Halcyon> Yeh but you don't cook the beefs in the cream
22:51 <electrohead> I don't blame him for having domain privacy :
22:53 <electrohead> :p *
23:07 <Halcyon> No, neither do I :P
23:32 <Halcyon> I just make up false addresses for mine
24:16 <Ampera> I am starting to really enjoy LXC. Now that I've gotten all of the pain of initial setup out of the way, it's a surprisingly efficient and easy jail platform
25:34 <electrohead> I never fucked with LXC yet
25:47 <Ampera> electrohead, I may write an actual manual on how to do it
25:54 <Ampera> because the existing documentation is fucking abhorrent
25:58 <electrohead> heh
25:59 <Ampera> it's windows service quality
26:07 <Ampera> I've had less trouble configuring IIS
26:16 <electrohead> yeah I have a few docker containers, libvirt, and virtualbox
26:29 <Ampera> so you do use lxc, most likely
26:30 <electrohead> mainly docker containers though
26:35 <Ampera> as afaik docker's default backend is lxc
26:41 <electrohead> hrmm
26:43 * electrohead looks
26:56 <Ampera> lxc is broadly equivalent to the concept of FreeBSD jails
27:02 <Ampera> just harder in some places, easier than others
27:11 <electrohead> ahh ok
27:21 <Ampera> things like defining mounts and uid/gid allocation just don't really exist on FreeBSD
27:42 * electrohead beers rust_collector
28:11 * rust_collector is wet, and slightly sticky
30:24 <rust_collector> i think I will see if I can find a non-chinese datasheet. this does not work at 3.30am
35:17 <electrohead> heh
35:21 <electrohead> datasheet for what?
35:59 <rust_collector> meh, it is just a transistor. a mosfet. anctually, it says it is a super mosfet, lol
37:07 <rust_collector> ssw80r240s I think I will use 2 of those for my little load thingie
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03:43 Nick: gremlinz is now known as test01
11:27 Nick: test01 is now known as gremlinz
28:38 <Halcyon> At a glance I read that as "Genitals"
28:51 <rust_collector> test01
35:45 <Halcyon> https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/home/interiors/up-in-flames-woman-slammed-for-kmart-seagrass-light-hack/news-story/d3dd7bf8548d0e7f90837d4a77e961bf
35:52 <Halcyon> See, this is why we can't have nice things
36:05 <Halcyon> And we need warning labels on things that say "Hot things are hot"
37:13 <Ampera> although, if that was an LED bulb it'd probably be fine
37:34 <Ampera> what's effectively a few watts radiated heat probably wouldn't cause too much trouble
37:38 <Halcyon> Probably, but even they can get pretty hot without sufficient airflow
37:49 <Ampera> depends on the bulb
37:54 <Halcyon> It does
37:55 <rust_collector> and a second label, saying reading can cause wear to your eyes. and a third, saying the stickers could have sharp edges, so wear a helmet
38:10 <Halcyon> rust_collector, exactly
38:13 * Ampera murders rust_collector to death with a warning sticker
38:33 <rust_collector> if it is one of those american warnings, I can see that happening
39:01 <Halcyon> It's not just America or Canada, this shit is happening everywhere, because society is full of morons
39:33 <Ampera> obviously just get rid of society
39:44 <Halcyon> I agree with Ampera
40:06 <Ampera> reject society, embrace monke
40:10 <rust_collector> I just remember the warnings printed on a small "swimming pool" and the american warnings was more like a book. the swedish was something like " do not let your kids drown alone"
40:52 <Halcyon> It's just that no one can accept responsibility for their own actions or inactions these days. Always got to point the finger.
41:13 <rust_collector> it is important to be there, and show support, when someone drowns
41:31 <Halcyon> rust_collector, yeh, got to record it and upload it to Tiktok. Otherwise, how would anyone know
41:44 <rust_collector> right!
58:36 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/blursedimages/comments/wdrgck/blursed_doom_running_in_a_nopal/
58:36 <EEVBot> [reddit] blursed doom running in a nopal (https://i.redd.it/7o301kk6v5f91.jpg) to r/blursedimages | 10494 points (96.0%) | 53 comments | Posted by Herc_Hansen_ | Created at 2022-08-01 - 20:23:05UTC
12:05 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/mycology/comments/wcxlkf/jiggly/
12:05 <EEVBot> [reddit] Jiggly (https://v.redd.it/97j13jam40f91) to r/mycology | 43 points (94.0%) | 4 comments | Posted by thepsycholeech | Created at 2022-07-31 - 20:05:33UTC
14:54 * Halcyon jiggles towards T3sl4 
15:08 <T3sl4> careful, there isn't mush room
15:13 <Halcyon> Snap :P
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10:44 <Halcyon> https://twitter.com/segamstim/status/1554240560990343168
10:45 <EEVBot> [Twitter] SegaMasterTim Redux (@segamstim): Graphics quality options 🥔 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZCAThQaAAAbZrh.png | 13 RTs | 88 ♥s | Posted: 2022-08-01 - 23:00:00UTC
50:23 <K> hello dictionaries
50:45 <rust1> hey!
59:29 <Halcyon> Evening :-)
12:33 * electrohead pokes Halcyon
12:43 <Halcyon> YAY!
13:33 <K> GET POKED!
13:38 <electrohead> lol
13:40 <electrohead> hey guys
13:47 <Halcyon> What's doing electrohead? Did you miss us?
14:06 <electrohead> I think I did
14:08 <electrohead> :p
14:13 <Halcyon> Hahah
31:54 <electrohead> I may pass back out
32:33 <Halcyon> Aww
44:45 <LordGeir> Mornin' folks =)
44:57 <Halcyon> Howdy
46:19 <K> get folked
48:51 <steve30> hi
49:05 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
51:26 <electrohead> mernin's
58:58 <Halcyon> I probably should update the software on my pfsense box
59:07 <rust1> YES!
59:19 <Halcyon> Few versions behind now
59:20 <rust1> that is a great idea! do it!!!
59:29 <Halcyon> I'll drop out for a bit shortly..
10:12 * steve30 is noodling
10:25 <Halcyon> Oooh
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28:00 <Halcyon_> There we go
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28:20 <rust1> POP!
58:22 <Halcyon> https://odysee.com/@eevblog:7/eevblog-1489-mystery-teardown!:0
58:22 <EEVBot> [url] EEVblog 1489 - Mystery Teardown! | odysee.com
58:25 <Halcyon> How did I miss this video?
59:20 <K> it was hidden from you
01:00 <Halcyon> It looks expensive
14:57 <rust1> maybe that is why it was hidden from you
28:19 <steve30> i looked forward to that video but haven't got round to watching it yet
28:23 <steve30> maybe i'll watch it today
29:06 * steve30 was just making a todo list for this weekends alphabet-soupings
49:31 * steve30 coffees
09:16 <Ampera> good morning
09:21 * Ampera teas
16:49 <LordGeir> Damn... UPS batteries are completely dead. Even my old dumbass charger that charges everything won't give them even a mA of current
17:36 <rust1> knock them around a bit, and let it sit there and try a bit more
17:41 <Ampera> I have a new variety of tea, Barry's Gold Blend
17:52 <Ampera> is pretty good
19:35 <LordGeir> I gave 'em some nice whacks and even tried dumping 10A straight into them, but no dice.
19:50 <LordGeir> One goes to 8.7V and the other 9.9V
20:24 <rust1> and the new charger does not want to do anything?
21:14 <LordGeir> That one recognizes them and at least tries to charge them, but the old one does nothing. Not even a whisk on the needle when connected
21:39 * electrohead caffeines
22:00 <rust1> some times it takes a long time, I wonder if it is breaking thru a layer of crap, so until it gets a nice hole, it has nowhere to send its energy
22:33 <LordGeir> I suspected that too, so I let it try to recondition overnight. Still same though
22:39 <rust1> oh
23:27 <rust1> take them outside, and give them 250A with the welder. that should make something happen.
23:32 <Ampera> throw it into the tumble dryer
23:43 <Ampera> percussive maintenance
23:48 <rust1> uh, use earhole pluggers
23:50 <Ampera> and a newly resurfaced tumble dryer too
24:07 <LordGeir> :P
24:50 <LordGeir> I could hook them up to my brand new house generator. That should do the trick. (7kW 3 phase 240V)
25:14 <Ampera> 3 phase?
25:14 <rust1> you can always try to get 3 phases into a battery, if you like
25:16 <Ampera> that's verboten here
25:37 <Ampera> you need to be an extra special someone special to be allowed to use 3 phase power here
25:51 <Ampera> you have to, because who knows who might try to start a motor otherwise
26:09 <LordGeir> All home electricity in Norway is 3 phase 240V into the house, then it's turned to single phase in the breaker cabinet
26:12 <rust1> we are different here. we got 3 phases, but no ground, until about 30 years ago
26:26 <Ampera> all houses in the US have 2 phase 240V
27:40 <LordGeir> It took me almost a year to find a generator that could produce >6kW 3 phase 240V
28:38 <LordGeir> All in all, the electrician, parts and the generator cost me just under 35000kr (~2900GBP)
28:50 <Ampera> that sounds amazingly cheap
28:54 <LordGeir> But at least I have power no matter what happens
29:15 <Ampera> here most electricians won't even sneeze on you for under 2 grand
29:29 <rust1> I was wondering if I should use this thing, so I can have a tiny little lm317 based power supply, running off 3 phase, just because https://ibb.co/SwB5WC1
29:29 <EEVBot> [url] 16594396522617907344781232362318 — ImgBB | ibb.co
31:19 <LordGeir> The electrician wasn't bad. Total there was south of 13000kr and the special part that is required was 8500kr or something, leaving 4500kr for the job (420GBP)
32:21 <LordGeir> rust1: That'd be a cool project!
40:22 <rust1> yes, maybe some day
05:29 <rust1> I wonder if I have to find some super-mega magnet,(magnetabsto) so I can get all the metal out of my fingers. it is sort of annoying
06:28 <LordGeir> Stop by Unilabs on Farmandstredet and ask them to engage the MRI machine and it's super magnets :P
06:39 <rust1> my ex neighbor used to work on that stuff
07:04 <rust1> interesting guy.
07:21 <LordGeir> I bet he had some stories about the stuff he worked on
08:41 <rust1> he did not talk much about it, really. he did give me a bag full of tiny model houses. that was nice.
09:10 <rust1> I did not even know, until I was...i guess 20
09:39 <K> get modeled!
10:44 <rust1> it was a bit weird, because he always knew everything... smart guy
11:27 <rust1> and, he had a thing for falling off the roof, into a pile of snow, so you woudl only see 2 legs
17:48 <K> that is not a national passtime?
24:47 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera, sticks a https://i.imgur.com/uzM3LLw.jpeg on his back
25:00 <Ampera> :D
25:03 <Ampera> how are you doing T3sl4?
25:19 <T3sl4> not bad Ampsy
27:06 <K> apmpsy, the teletoobie that got left in the parking lot
27:47 * Ampera beats K mercilessly with an extra long potato
27:48 <T3sl4> knock out drunk and covered in its own vomit?
28:25 <K> aye potats.
28:37 <K> potats gonn have a good harvest this year, it looks like
28:42 <T3sl4> that's good
29:18 <K> was quite a lot of rain and sun at the right times
02:25 <LordGeir> Got my package from Elfa Distrelec today; https://imgur.com/a/5ofJZdK
02:25 <EEVBot> [url] Nice packaging... - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
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03:00 <LordGeir> Two relatively large boxes, and the total components could have fit in a 1/3 of the smallest box
03:13 <K> more boxes for the box god
41:20 <MrMobodies> Hello
41:32 <MrMobodies> I have a question
41:40 <MrMobodies> oh window stuck
43:09 <MrMobodies> does this man's expression look like he think he's going to heaven?
43:20 <MrMobodies> https://static.independent.co.uk/2022/08/02/10/e036b7489d4bb43cc0a00cbd69311993Y29udGVudHNlYXJjaGFwaSwxNjU5NTE2NDI3-2.68131669.jpg
43:36 <MrMobodies> from this article
43:36 <MrMobodies> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/mps-msps-jackson-carlaw-liz-truss-scottish-labour-b2136282.html
43:37 <EEVBot> [url] Sunak can win next general election, say Scottish Tory MPs and MSPs | The Independent | www.independent.co.uk
43:41 <MrMobodies> at the local pubhouse
43:47 <MrMobodies> you take out a packet of crisp
44:02 <MrMobodies> and many of the dogs they bring in would look at you
44:04 <MrMobodies> just like that
44:58 <MrMobodies> and they want and more and more and they are never satisfied but show the same look when begging for crisps of whatever they see
45:31 <rust_collector> yes, maybe he is a dog
45:34 <Ampera> hello MrMobodies how are you doing
45:39 <MrMobodies> okay
45:43 <MrMobodies> I just woke up
45:45 <MrMobodies> good sleep
45:55 <MrMobodies> temperature is 27c but comfortable and low humidity
45:58 <MrMobodies> very windy too
46:24 <MrMobodies> so that's nice after many days swamp like conditions
50:22 <rust_collector> 13c and rain here
50:43 <rust_collector> I hope we will have some thunder tonight, so I can eat ice cream
51:22 <LordGeir> 12.7C and rain here too
51:37 <LordGeir> Forecast is for thunder from 17 pr there abouts
51:39 <MrMobodies> the ice cream vans stops out the pub every couple of times a week
51:53 <MrMobodies> but last week I didn't know what I wanted
52:05 <rust_collector> here too. and there are 3 of them, I think
53:25 <MrMobodies> there are two, one african who seems clean
53:38 <MrMobodies> and one Indian who's van was absolutely filthy
56:41 <K> gives the falvour and crunchies
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