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08:32 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/RobertCMahon/status/1554909470131507200
08:33 <EEVBot> [Twitter] Robert Mahon (@RobertCMahon): Still not sure how I will fit this video into my sediment transport lectures this year but I WILL make it happen. https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1554909442067509248/pu/vid/480x854/RiNWYTnTKYCNn8_u.mp4?tag=12 | 1453 RTs | 14540 ♥s | Posted: 2022-08-03 - 19:18:01UTC
14:59 <electrohead> http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=458120
15:00 <EEVBot> [url] Winamp & Shoutcast Forums | forums.winamp.com
15:08 <electrohead> apparently winamp is still being updated
15:10 <electrohead> heh
15:30 <rust1> you will never get rid of winamp
17:24 <T3sl4> in soviet russia, the llama whips your ass!
19:37 <T3sl4> DHess_US: there's a dam cow in the way
21:18 <K> whould you call me crazy if i said i am considering using cat5 for rs485? one pair for diff and other pair for gnd ?
21:22 <DHess_US> damn cows
21:32 <DHess_US> K, nothing wrong with that.
21:53 <DHess_US> There are better cables, but cat5 will work fine.
22:43 <K> cat5 is nicely crimpable into rj45, without soldering xlrs
23:10 <K> and id rather have two rj45 sockets on a device than mishmash
24:02 <electrohead> I've done something similar in the past with cat5 cable
24:07 <electrohead> if it works, it works
24:09 <electrohead> lol
24:42 <Ampera> I'd use winamp if it had a Linux version
24:47 <Ampera> it doesn't, so I don't care
25:19 <electrohead> mpv all the way
25:21 <rust1> xmms is pretty close, and can use the same "skins"
25:31 <electrohead> oh shit, I remember xmms
25:43 <rust1> or xmms2. not sure
25:50 <Ampera> Audacious is the modern version
25:52 <Ampera> it's
25:54 <Ampera> ehhh
25:58 <Ampera> UI is kinda janky
26:06 <K> u y have to be decadent deviants? why not use vlc like a normal person?
26:24 <Ampera> I do
26:27 <rust1> because mpv exists
26:30 <Ampera> since its UI is slightly less janky
26:44 <Ampera> I even use VLC on my car, occasionally
27:35 <K> ok
27:55 <K> not completely out of the woods, but ok
28:14 <rust1> I like trees, this is fine
28:53 <electrohead> https://i.redd.it/jojvxdl2jof91.jpg
28:55 <EEVBot> [reddit] [OC] A red statue of Putin riding a tank has been installed in a playground in New York City. to r/pics | 4610 points (93.0%) | 233 comments | Posted by starkt442 | Created at 2022-08-04 - 07:09:02EDT | https://redd.it/wfyfyt
31:58 <rust1> I have thought about having posters of hitler and putin, and some other buddies, in the background of a video, and just not mention it at all. I wonder if anyone would notice, or comment on that
33:59 <DHess_US> K, cat5 isn't the only cable which can use rj45s.
34:36 <K> i dont see me crimping the connector with the double twisted pair i have for rs485 now
34:42 <DHess_US> There is dual pair cable which has individually shielded pairs.
35:14 <K> this is more about convenience of being able to size the cable on the spot
35:39 <K> becase as practice shows, clients cant measure for shit
35:41 <DHess_US> Sure, there is nothing wrong with it. cat5 was not common back when RS-485 was commonly used.
36:07 <K> it might have less noise imunity, i'd assume
36:18 <DHess_US> I'm just saying RS-485 was not designed when cat5, or any cat cable, was available.
36:26 <K> otoh it is balanced and should not matter that much
36:30 <K> yeah
36:51 <K> RS standards are ancient
37:28 * electrohead RS232's all over K
37:38 <K> u nasty boy
37:45 <electrohead> <3
38:21 <Ampera> you people need help
38:23 <Ampera> or failing that, jesus
38:45 <K> we would prolly fail jesus
40:13 <rust1> too late to worry about that
40:56 Join: Nothing\ ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
41:34 <Nothing\> man i'm so pissed off
42:05 <rust1> stop that!
42:08 <Nothing\> went to finish this playthrough of Final Fantasy IV that i've spent hundreds of hours farming stuff in, only to find i missed an item that I won't have a chance to get until the end of my next playthrough
42:15 <Nothing\> rust1, indeed i should
42:20 <rust1> yes
43:00 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
43:03 <Ampera> how are you doing friend?
43:08 <rust1> but, now that you are here... how would you connect jesus to an rj45 connector, because I think that is what they were discussing here
55:58 <electrohead> https://old.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/wfu0do/political_ritual/
55:59 <EEVBot> [reddit] Political ritual? (https://v.redd.it/6joz2jt3oof91) to r/CrazyFuckingVideos | 221 points (93.0%) | 111 comments | Posted by antoinep33 | Created at 2022-08-04 - 02:37:38EDT
57:10 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
57:27 <Nothing\> Ampera, i'm surprisingly well. I was in a lot of pain this morning but it's abated, despite not pooping.
57:38 <Nothing\> had some inhumanly large farts. But that's par for the course.
57:57 <Nothing\> those always relieve the pain just as well though. Maybe even better cuz it's almost instant relief
58:28 <Nothing\> but man, when I put my hand in front of my butthole to feel my fart (don't tell me you've never done it!) it's so much it feels just like i'm blowing on my hand with my mouth lips
58:40 <Nothing\> and yeah oddly enough the air is cool, not warm
58:52 <Nothing\> and then my hand smells really bad for some reason
00:18 <Nothing\> Ampera, seriously though i'm alright i guess. Mentally out of sorts. Physically in agony like clockwork every day from 6am to 1am
00:21 <Nothing\> er 1pm
00:41 <Nothing\> and being in chronic pain is so much more than just the pain
00:52 <Nothing\> there's a huge, crippling psychological aspect to it
01:51 <Nothing\> when it's there, it's all you think about, when it's not, you just worry constantly about it coming back. You're incapacitated more often than not so you're basically useless and can't do anything. Which makes you feel all sorts of guilty.
02:01 <Nothing\> and of course stress makes it worse so it turns into a feedback loop
02:35 <Nothing\> i'm not complaining btw i'm more just saying it's given me a new appreciation for what people who endure worse, more chronic pain
02:36 <Ampera> sounds like a thing
02:50 <Nothing\> like this lady with all sorts of disorders I was reading about who was approved for assisted suicide
02:56 <Nothing\> she's not terminal, but the approved her
03:10 <Nothing\> only catch is, she has to drive 5 hours to do it. Meanwhile she can't even leave her bed.
03:28 <Ampera> society is amazing
03:37 <Ampera> we'll help you kill yourself if you can drive 5 hours
03:47 <Ampera> imagine being the friend come to pick you up for that one
03:55 <Nothing\> but i guess the ottawa clinic refused to do it so for some reason she had to go to another city. Which makes no sense because the whole health network is province-wide. It's all connected. So you'd think if you're approved for something in one county, you'd be approved in the whole province
03:56 <Ampera> or even asking for it
04:15 <Ampera> uh, hey yeah, I need a ride to a medical thing....
04:15 <Nothing\> Ampera, will probably be her husband or caretaker
04:24 <Nothing\> but yeah that'd be a hell of an ask heh
04:27 <Ampera> if it's her husband that's even worse
04:29 <Ampera> like
04:33 <Nothing\> i've actually seen a video of assisted suicide
04:38 <Ampera> literally driving your wife to the hospital to get killed
04:51 <Nothing\> i'm not sure if they edited it to seem that way, but it did seem like a very peaceful way to go
05:01 <Nothing\> the worst thing she experienced was the bitter taste of the drug
05:10 <Nothing\> sodium thiopental i believe, or something similar
05:24 <Nothing\> basically an overdose of barbiturates (heavy sedatives) to make you stop breathing
05:27 <Ampera> man, it's shit like this that reminds you being alive is not so bad >.>
05:46 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah reading her story made me grateful i'm not worse off
05:51 <Ampera> Now I wonder why they don't use that instead of lethal injection
05:56 <Nothing\> made me realize as bad as my pain is, it could be a LOT worse
05:58 <Ampera> which is a far more complicated process
06:31 <Nothing\> having gone through severe opiate withdrawal, i've had a taste of the unreal level of suffering the human body is capable of experience
06:33 <Nothing\> and mind
06:40 <Nothing\> frankly the liability terrifies me
06:57 <Nothing\> and even IF you do everything right, you could still end up like that
07:05 <Nothing\> maybe not from withdrawal, but any number of things
07:18 <Nothing\> withdrawal is nice because at least you know it's going to stop at some point
07:24 <Nothing\> you know the cause of it
07:36 <Nothing\> and if worst comes to worst, you take a dose and BOOM instant relief
07:37 <Ampera> "withdrawal is nice" Nothing\ - 2022
07:51 <Nothing\> Ampera, i should have said it has its benefits
08:03 <Nothing\> Ampera, although on that subject there is one thing i've always wondered.
08:38 <Nothing\> There are drugs like nalaxone which block opiate receptors and put a person into a state of opiate withdrawal
09:28 <Nothing\> which, even without being addicted i would imagine it would feel unpleasant just from blocking yoru natural endorphins from being able to bind to those receptors and do their job, ie management of regular aches and pains so they don't become intolerable, reward pathways, etc
10:12 <Nothing\> but i've always wondered, since it blocks the effect of endorphins. If you took the drug every day, perhaps starting at a low non-shitty feeling dose, and working your way up to a tolerance over the course of like a year
10:30 <Nothing\> if you suddenly stopped taking the drug, would the withdrawals feel like being high on opiates?
10:45 <Ampera> >.>
10:49 <Nothing\> it's kind of a pseudoscientific thought experiment deal but it's fun to think about
10:52 <Nothing\> interesting
11:22 <Nothing\> you always tend to think of withdrawal as a bad thing, but in this instance i've conceived of a scenario in which it MAY be a a good (feeling) thing
12:00 <electrohead> https://old.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/wfyhy2/orchestra_of_chaos/
12:01 <EEVBot> [reddit] Orchestra of Chaos ('WTF' flair) (https://v.redd.it/90zm2osljof91) to r/CrazyFuckingVideos | 181 points (96.0%) | 19 comments | Posted by One_percentile | Created at 2022-08-04 - 07:12:04EDT
12:03 <electrohead> lol
12:08 <Nothing\> but then i'd wager being on nalaxone and forcing your body into a permanent mild state of artificial withdrawal wouldn't feel too great
12:23 <Nothing\> ochestra of chaos
12:26 <Nothing\> you mean the universe?
12:39 <Nothing\> and by chaos i mean literal chaos, as in the technical definition
12:59 <Nothing\> like, a chaotic system where a tiny change to a tiny variable can have vast and unpredictable consequences
13:12 <Nothing\> even life is chaotic in that way
13:31 <Nothing\> going to the store, you stop to tie your shoes, then almost get hit by a car when you go to cross the road.
13:47 <Nothing\> alternatively if you didn't stop to tie your shoe, the car woulda killed you
13:50 <Nothing\> that sorta thing
14:49 <Nothing\> that's actually part of what led to my belief in god, or a god-like force too. Is just realizing how chaotic and touchy life can be in that we could destroy our lives in a moment without even realizing it. I just feel like there's gotta be somehing at least pushing us in the right direction to keep us from doing that.
14:58 <Nothing\> or to mitigate it at least
15:54 <Nothing\> ugh
16:07 <Nothing\> i realized just as i'm normally prescribed, i take 12 pills a day
16:20 <Nothing\> if you count the methadone as a pill
17:03 <Nothing\> lol and i also just realized like 1/3 is for my heart, 1/2 for anxiety and the rest is misc
17:17 <Nothing\> heart/stroke risk mitigation
17:34 <Nothing\> which taking those sorts of meds just makes me feel old
17:58 <Nothing\> lol i remember when i was little my grandmother used to call her pills her "candy"
18:19 <Nothing\> then i remember hearing all sorts of stories about kids overdosing because they literally thought the pills were candy
18:48 <Nothing\> which i dunno how you can make that mistake. Sure they LOOK like candy, but one bite and they're probably gonna spit it out.
18:58 <Nothing\> then again one bite could very well be a handfull
19:08 <rust_collector> so, you had a popular grandmother?
19:34 <Nothing\> i just remember an episode of rescue 911 where a little girl took all of her grandmother's digoxin. Which is a powerful medication that screws with your heart rhythm.
19:37 <rust_collector> all the kids visited her. oh, then they died
19:49 <Nothing\> rust_collector, lol they never took anything good usually
20:40 <Nothing\> wtf
21:01 <Nothing\> why is youtube recommending a video of stories about incest between step sibblings from some reddit or 4chan bullshit
21:02 <Ampera> hrm, Sam's Club has a samsung front loader going for 600 bucks delivered and installed
21:15 <Nothing\> frontloader?
21:21 <Ampera> washing machine
21:24 <Nothing\> ah
21:32 <Nothing\> i was thinking likea forklift or something
21:32 <Ampera> rust_collector, any opinions on samsung washing machines?
21:38 <Ampera> I'd expect them to be mediocre but work
21:38 <Nothing\> maybe not forklift but you know
21:50 <Ampera> looks like a 2 year warranty, which is meh
21:50 <Nothing\> Ampera, honestly samsung isn't a name i think of when i think washing machine
21:54 <Ampera> why not
21:54 <Nothing\> i think maytag
21:57 <Ampera> they make tons of appliances
21:58 <Nothing\> or umm
22:03 <Nothing\> frigidaire?
22:04 <Ampera> fridges, washing machines, dryers, aircons
22:11 <Nothing\> maytag for sure though
22:14 <Nothing\> westinghouse
22:21 <Ampera> lol westinghouse
22:26 <Ampera> at least GE is an actual brand :P
22:30 <Nothing\> yeah, the Tesla thieves
22:33 <Nothing\> no wait
22:40 <Nothing\> westinghouse worked FOR tesla didn't they
22:45 <Nothing\> or with
22:46 <Nothing\> whatever
23:06 <Nothing\> Ampera, i just know LG is a shit brand for TVs
23:10 <Ampera> how so
23:24 <Nothing\> for one thing, the OS is a repurposed OS from Palm OS
23:24 <Ampera> LG is one of the most well liked brands for TVs, and one of the only manufacturers of large format OLED displays
23:26 <rust_collector> hmm, dunno, I have not tried samsung
23:30 <Ampera> so?
23:34 <Nothing\> so it's garbage
23:35 <Ampera> I've actually heard good things about it
23:40 <Ampera> but all smart TV stuff is garbage
23:43 <Ampera> so that doesn't make it special
23:47 <Nothing\> yes it does
23:53 <Nothing\> just because it's the norm doesn't make it okay
24:00 <Ampera> put it this way
24:00 <Nothing\> that's called umm
24:03 <Nothing\> that word
24:05 <Ampera> if that's your criteria than /all/ TVs suck
24:07 <Nothing\> complacency!
24:08 <Ampera> the whole lot of them
24:15 <Ampera> rust_collector, samsung is a brand I am kinda concerned about
24:26 <Ampera> they are capable of making decent stuff, and if you buy a samsung it's typically not an OEM design
24:38 <Ampera> but they also have a habit of making overbuilt garbage, or polished turds
24:52 <rust_collector> yeah. I probably would not buy one, but I do not KNOW
24:54 <Ampera> stuff with flashy lights on a mediocre design that's not as good as the generics that have been around for ages
25:03 <Ampera> 600 dollars is a very good deal for a washing machine too
25:11 <Ampera> especially with shipping, install, and haul away included
25:23 <rust_collector> we looked at a samsung cook top, but you had to have a samsung phone to use it, so...
25:30 <Ampera> wha
25:39 <Ampera> I've never used an electric stove for more than a couple days at a time
25:41 <Nothing\> Ampera, no my criteria is that it shows a bunch of ads and shit i don't care about for 10-15 seconds every time i turn it on, it automatically adjusts the brightness to dim the picture seemingly at random and there is NO option to turn that off, it's built in. They added white pixel elements to the RGB spectrum to make it a "4k" tv without actually being 4K. The apps for the god awful OS don't even work. And as I said,
25:41 <Nothing\> retooled palm os.
25:51 <Nothing\> just to name a few things
25:58 <Ampera> yes
26:01 <Ampera> that's all TVs
26:03 <electrohead> my parents just got a new stove recently, and it's a samsung stove. never knew samsung made stoves, heh
26:08 <Nothing\> Ampera, no it's not
26:16 <Ampera> WOLED making it 4k but not is something I've not heard
26:25 <Ampera> but all smart TVs are plastered with advertising, barely work, and have terrible UIs
26:27 <Ampera> this is not special
26:39 <Ampera> cheap or expensive
26:39 <Nothing\> again
26:41 <Nothing\> that's no excuse
26:47 <Ampera> did I say it was an excuse
26:48 <Nothing\> you're being complacent
26:55 <Ampera> no I'm not
26:57 <Ampera> I'm not buying a TV at all
26:59 <Nothing\> well you're giving an air of complacency right now
27:00 <Ampera> because they are all garbage
27:05 <Nothing\> saying "they're all garbage"
27:08 <Ampera> I am just saying LG is among the best of the garbage
27:13 <Ampera> because they are slightly less garbage
27:18 <Nothing\> not ime
27:19 <Ampera> and end up making most of the panels in TVs anyways
27:22 <rust_collector> lg is the good shit
27:33 <Nothing\> unelss they switched to android
27:35 <Ampera> LG is just another samsung really
27:44 <Nothing\> that's the only thing that would salvage this TV is if i put an android box on it
27:46 <Ampera> Samsung TV's have their own tizen crap on it
27:49 <Ampera> most cheap stuff is roku
27:54 <Ampera> oh great
28:01 <Ampera> now you're gonna go off about "android boxes" again
28:02 <Ampera> :P
28:28 <Nothing\> i mean
28:32 <rust_collector> nah, he is making a media machine out of the stuff he has stashed away
28:32 <Nothing\> if you really want me to, sure
28:52 * Ampera throws an nvidia shield TV at Nothing\ and watches him explode
29:15 <Nothing\> Ampera, why do you think everybody has the exact same needs and desires as you do?
29:57 <Nothing\> if i was interested in something besides an android box i'd be looking at something other than an android box
30:04 <Nothing\> maybe you're the one who should get an android box
30:19 <Ampera> because you're stubborn and don't want to bother understanding that an nvidia shield IS an android box
30:21 <Nothing\> i bet your server's garbage for gaming
30:27 <Nothing\> you need to get a proper gaming computer instead
30:34 <Ampera> it is, and I do have one
30:35 <Nothing\> with windows
30:36 <rust_collector> the best washing machines run on bsd, everyone knows that
30:40 <Ampera> I also have a machine with windows
30:40 <Nothing\> because linux doesn't support games
30:45 <Ampera> it does, but ok
30:52 <Nothing\> yeah but you don't need your server
30:57 <Nothing\> you should just sell it
31:04 <Nothing\> what do you need a server for
31:05 <Ampera> Nothing\, why do you not understand that an nvidia shield is an android box
31:12 <Ampera> this has baffled me ever since we had that discussion
31:15 <Nothing\> because i don't care about it
31:17 <Ampera> it's like you're upset that water isn't wet
31:22 <Nothing\> i've made up my mind about what i want
31:26 <Ampera> fine
31:30 <Nothing\> so i don't see why you're trying to tell me otherwise
31:31 <Ampera> but you're being pig-headed for no reason
31:39 <Nothing\> no, i've made up my mind
32:27 <Ampera> I don't give a shit about what you do or do not want. I'm trying to explain to you a thing that you are refusing to understand for no real reason
32:44 <Ampera> it's just obnoxious
32:54 <Nothing\> it just irks me when i have a project or idea all planned out and then people come along and tell me what THEY think I should do instead. To suit THEIR needs. While being completely oblivious to my own.
33:00 <Ampera> I AM NOT DOING THIS
33:02 <Nothing\> not that that's what you're doing now. by any means.
33:05 <Ampera> You gaslighting fuck
33:05 <Nothing\> lol
33:07 <Nothing\> jynx
33:14 <Ampera> Imma fucking smack you so hard
33:44 <Nothing\> how's it gaslighting though? like i'm genuinely asking.
34:17 <Nothing\> and by it, i mean the specifci situation of me having an idea in mind, you making a suggestion, and then, well, you saw what happened. No need rehashing it.
34:40 <Nothing\> i'm not trying to be contradictory or difficult i'm just honestly curious.
34:54 <Ampera> Beacuse you're accusing me of trying to push something on you
34:57 <Ampera> when I'm not
35:05 <Nothing\> gaslighting's one of those things i hear about it, i understand it, but i couldn't exactly define it if you asked me to. You know what i mean?
35:15 <Nothing\> but I am always worried that i may do it without realizing sometimes.
35:20 <Nothing\> i wouldn't be surprised if i do.
35:26 <Ampera> Gaslighting effectively means trying to convince someone that black is white
35:31 <Nothing\> there is a side of me that would gladly do that to anyone, sadly.
36:00 <Nothing\> wish there wasn't. But I guess part of being healthy is finding a balance between all of the different aspects of your personality, be they good or bad.
36:34 <Ampera> like, all I wanted to know is why you didn't want an nvidia shield
36:35 <Ampera> that was all
36:48 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah that was the idea i had for it is basically abusing somebody and then brainwashing them into thinking they deserve the abuse, or they're doing something to cause it, or it's otherwise just their fault in some way.
36:49 <Ampera> because it's genuinely one of the best options for Android TV out there
37:01 <Ampera> It's a word people bend to mean whatever they want really
37:04 <Ampera> it's like calling someone a nazi
37:23 <Nothing\> Ampera, see from my point of view it felt like you were trying to force me into conforming to your ideas or whatever
37:28 <Nothing\> what suits YOU rather than me
37:38 <Nothing\> which let's face it, that IS a big problem with a lot of people. But not you.
37:41 <Nothing\> not you by a long shot.
38:00 <Nothing\> but being the touchy person I am, unfortunately that's the twisted way I interpret these sorts of interactions.
38:06 <Ampera> I wasn't, which is why it was quite obnoxious for you to treat me like I was
38:16 <Ampera> I just wanted to know why you didn't want it, because it seemed to fit your requirements
38:23 <Nothing\> i'm really sorry, Ampera
38:24 <Ampera> otherwise I can't make a different suggestion
38:28 <Nothing\> sincerely i am
38:39 <Nothing\> and i know words don't help, but time will
38:46 <Nothing\> and i'll see to it that it does
38:50 <Nothing\> or at least do my best to
39:09 <Nothing\> i'm no fortune teller after all and i don't want to make any promises i don't know i can keep.
39:20 <Nothing\> but i can certainly promise to try
39:35 <Ampera> it's fine
39:48 <Nothing\> and these little talks and you pointing it out when i get like that really helps, too. Although I hate that people end up in such a position. It's not fair to them.
40:24 <Nothing\> Ampera, well i'm grateful you're one of the few people who tolerates and perhaps even understands (to a degree) these outbursts i have
40:32 <Nothing\> i've burned SO Many bridges with them
40:47 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
40:49 <Nothing\> i have no dentist because i accused him of defrauding my insurance
40:57 <Ampera> you're the one who usually ends up getting butthurt and blocking me for a while
41:12 <Ampera> if anything it's you being the one who seems to tolerate me
42:03 <Nothing\> but i mean let's face it, when a dentist does a set of crown $1000 a piece (out of pocket) which are supposed to last 5-20 years, and they fall out in less than 6 months. When I've had over a dozen other fillings that have also fallen out after less than a year. It kind of rings some alarm bells.
42:49 <Nothing\> Ampera, i like to block people because ignoring the situation is my way of coping. I just "nip it in the bud" end the conflict asap, and then cut off all ties until I've relaxed
43:24 <Nothing\> i guess it's two pronged in that it gives ME a chance to settle down and be more reasonable. But it also helps me to just forget the problem even exists and move past it.
43:26 <Ampera> I block people if they are so excessively annoying that I wouldn't be able to deal with the channel otherwise
43:32 <Ampera> besides that, I've never blocked a person out of hate or anger.
43:37 <Ampera> not even Halcyon
43:43 <Nothing\> oh i don't do it out of hate or anger
43:56 <Nothing\> more as a pre-emptive thing. De-escelate the situation before it gets out of hand
44:08 <Nothing\> because i know if i keep talking to them, it'll just get wores and worse
44:44 <Nothing\> it's like if i get into an argument with my mum, if it's about something trivial, the second i realize that I just tell her to stop everything and there's no point in continuing.
44:54 <Nothing\> but then she just gets pissed off because she wants to speak her mind
45:15 <Nothing\> when in reality letting her do that would only piss me off more, which would make me lash out, and feedback loops would ensue
45:46 <Ampera> you gonna answer my question though?
45:50 <Ampera> why don't you want an nvidia shield
45:59 <Nothing\> we've been bickering a lot lately. Just a lot of petty trivial stuff. But I think that's down to the fact that we've lived together for about 5 years and spend almost every waking moment together. We're probably just naturally getting on eachother's nerves
47:11 <Nothing\> Ampera, 100% honest answer, because i know nothing about them and have no motivation and hence no desire to learn anything about them. Even if they would benefit me in the best possible way, the lack of motivation just overtakes any desire to put any sort of effort into this. Or really anything in general.
47:28 <Nothing\> i dunno why that was so hard for me to say. Pride I guess.
47:41 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
47:43 <Ampera> I've done the same
47:56 <Nothing\> i figured you could relate
47:57 <Ampera> but my confusion is why ask for suggestions if you don't actually want any
48:01 <Nothing\> anyone who's been depressed can
48:14 <Nothing\> i don't think i asked for suggestions did i?
48:22 <Nothing\> i mean i could have and not remembered
48:54 <Nothing\> it's not something i would ask for suggestions about because i don't care enough about it to follow up on any
49:02 <Nothing\> which is why i wonder if i did or not
49:16 <Nothing\> it's not out of the question, just unusual if i did.
49:35 <Nothing\> but it doesn't matter
49:48 <rust1> I thin k you asked about android boxes for the tv, or something, but...not sure what you asked about about them
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51:11 <Ampera> Nothing\, you did, you said your momo wanted an android box
51:18 <Ampera> and if we had any ideas about what to get
51:23 <Ampera> *momo -> mom
51:24 <Ampera> lol
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08:02 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah both of us would like one
08:24 <Nothing\> actually i guess i don't really NEED one, but she does. She's using an old blu-ray for streaming netflix.
08:37 <Ampera> Shield TV is really the best option out there. It's decently powerful, but still cheap enough to be reasonable
08:58 <Ampera> As I gather, its version of Android TV is fairly vanilla, and its support record is fairly good.
09:02 <Nothing\> and half of the flash drives full of movies i give her say they're corrupt (on her blu-ray only)
09:18 <Nothing\> Ampera, well since it's the only brand i know it'll probably be the first one i look ta
09:31 <Nothing\> and/or the only
10:17 <Nothing\> man i'm too addicted to Smash Bros
10:35 <Nothing\> except it just makes me want to play all sorts of OTHER Nintendo franchises.
11:04 <Nothing\> the game itself is actually quite tedious after some time. You fight a battle, then another, and another, and another.
11:17 <Nothing\> Which is fine if you have friends to play with. But I haven't.
12:52 * Nothing\ sighs
12:54 <Nothing\> anhedonia sucks
13:04 <Nothing\> you get anhedonia much Ampera?
13:06 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FReojp5L4c
13:07 <EEVBot> [url] I Made My Own Fart Pedal - YouTube | www.youtube.com
13:08 <electrohead> this is awesome.
13:09 <Nothing\> being depressed and all
13:26 <electrohead> Nothing\: watch/listen to that, it will brighten your day up xD
13:27 <Ampera> Nothing\, yes
13:33 <Ampera> though I am not presently depressed
13:43 <Nothing\> that is, anhedonia is a lack of ability to derive pleasure, fun, joy or entertainment from aynthing
13:54 <Nothing\> electrohead, i can't listen to music
13:56 <Nothing\> sorry
14:09 <Nothing\> i'd love to though
14:59 <electrohead> why can't you listen to music?
17:06 <LordGeir> Windows XP running on an old Pentium 1.8GHz with 512MB RAM and 80GB HDD.....
17:12 <LordGeir> Molasses....
17:22 <Nothing\> i get earworms that torture me for weeks or months on end, electrohead
17:24 <Nothing\> 24/7
17:26 <Nothing\> literally
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18:56 <electrohead> uh, ok
18:58 <electrohead> lol
19:03 <Nothing\> yeah it's a mental health thing
19:07 <Nothing\> even my shrink doesn't get it
19:09 <Nothing\> but it is what it is
19:17 <Nothing\> unfortunate because i used to love playing piano until it happened
19:21 <Nothing\> i used to love music
19:30 <Nothing\> i still do, but any time i listen to i pay for it.
28:06 <Nothing\> man, this omnicalculator.com is a great site. Not only does it have calculators for just about everything, especially EE stuff. But it actually explains how the formula and the math works in an article with the calculator.
29:06 <Nothing\> i just wish i knew wtf 1/2pisqrt(lc) was. if that's supposed to be 1/(etcetcetc) or 0.5 * etcetcetc
29:31 <Nothing\> because 2pi is a regularly used constant, too. Tau
29:41 <Nothing\> which frankly, tau shoulda been pi
29:59 <LordGeir> In basic math, it means 1 divided by 2π
30:08 <LordGeir> Etc
31:50 <Nothing\> LordGeir, what differentiates it from being a reciprocal instead?
32:14 <Nothing\> i guess the lack of brackets
32:24 <Nothing\> if there were brackets then it'd be the reciprocal
32:33 <Nothing\> but ugh, plain text is NOT how to explain math
32:51 <LordGeir> I agree 100% on that last one!
33:09 <Nothing\> LordGeir, it can be done but only with great attention to detail and some awkwardness
33:33 <Nothing\> it's even worse when you're trying to figure out how to say them in yoru head
33:53 <Nothing\> i still don't know how to properly "pronounce" calculus problems. Especially integrals.
34:04 <LordGeir> Like the one you posted in text: 1 OVER 2π * sqrt(lc)
34:49 <Nothing\> LordGeir, i just do away with all of that and multiply the whole lot by 6.28
35:49 <Nothing\> like say for capacitive reactance, I'd just do 1/(6.28FC)
36:03 <Nothing\> so much easier than 2pifc
36:29 <Nothing\> or likewise for temperature conversions instead of doing 5/9 i just multiply it by 0.8
36:36 <Nothing\> same thing, easier to grok
37:09 <Nothing\> the 6.28 thing only becomes a problem when i need more precisions than 2 decimal places
37:47 <LordGeir> Also; 1/2π "could" be One half π (1.57) or 1 Divided by 2π (0.318)
37:52 <Nothing\> speaking of, i still need to wrap my head around significant figures
38:08 <LordGeir> ½ (the correct ascii symbol for one half) is much easier to read
38:32 <Nothing\> when i do math the figures i use are all over the place. I mean I try to keep them rouhly the same but when you're working across like a dozen orders of magnitude it's hard to decide which figures are significant or not
38:44 <Nothing\> LordGeir, yeah but not easier to type
39:04 <Nothing\> otherwise i agree, i'd totally use that
39:06 <Nothing\> except
39:31 <Nothing\> it doesn't account for every other fraction, which you'd still have to write the traditional way. So it seems like delaying the inevitable.
40:11 <LordGeir> Nothing\: How many decimals of PI do you remember in your head, without looking it up?
42:01 <Nothing\> LordGeir, 30 because it's actually my email address lol
42:21 <Nothing\> only with the first 3 replaced with a c because google wouldn't let me start an email with a number
42:25 <LordGeir> Haha, nice :)
42:29 <LordGeir> 3.141592653589 - That's as far as I bother using, when I need precision
42:32 <Nothing\> frankly though i wish i'd done root 2
42:36 <Nothing\> i like root 2 better now
42:46 <Nothing\> i used to know somewhere > 50 digits of pi
42:57 <Nothing\> my friend and i had a friendly contest to see who could memorize the most
43:11 <Nothing\> and tehre's this "pi song' i listened to constantly to help me remember
43:36 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDiSYp_51iY
43:37 <EEVBot> [url] The Pi Song - YouTube | www.youtube.com
43:51 <Nothing\> it's not the whole song. I forget what it's called. But it's catchy and a fun way to learn it.
44:31 <Nothing\> Although I read that using 29 or 30 decimal places of pi is enough precision to calculate the diameter of the universe to within the width of a hydrogen atom
45:04 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDiSYp_51iY
45:05 <EEVBot> [url] The Pi Song - YouTube | www.youtube.com
45:10 <Nothing\> oh wait, i already posted it
45:15 <Nothing\> sorry, i nodded off and forgot
45:29 <Nothing\> got up early for the clinic today so i'm sleepy
45:46 <Nothing\> for the clinic and because of my usual morning pain
47:07 <LordGeir> I wish I knew what being sleepy was :/
47:43 <Nothing\> LordGeir, it's okay for what it's worth i'm only sleepy because i take literally oodles of heavily sedating medications.
47:55 <Nothing\> literally enough methadone to kill a man
48:04 <Nothing\> clonazepam, cannabis
48:23 <Nothing\> i used to take seroquel which is basically like the new thorazine
48:38 <Nothing\> heavily sedating antipsychotic medication
49:10 <Nothing\> though the name is a bit of a misnomer as it treats other things besides psychosis. I feel like just being on them is a stigma because of the name.
49:32 <Nothing\> i guess technically they're called neuroleptics but nobody's gonna know wtf you mean by that.
49:52 <Nothing\> but yeah back to cool numbers
49:56 <Nothing\> root 2 > pi
50:02 <Nothing\> in terms of coolness, i mean
52:51 <LordGeir> I have been on some of the heavier ones myself, but that is only because I suffer from PTSD (recently diagnosed), severe depression and a rare deviant form of "ADHD", but it's not AD (attention deficit) it's actually Hyper Attention Hyper Active
53:27 <LordGeir> My brain never shuts off, it takes some seriously powerful meds to knock me out
53:39 <Nothing\> LordGeir, i'm sorry you had a rough past. I've been through some tough things but I don't believe I ever went through anything traumatic enough to cause PTSD
53:48 <Nothing\> no rape or anything at least
53:51 <Nothing\> thankfully
54:58 <LordGeir> I've never been abused or anything, but I was insanely bullied in all of my school years, plus I was mentally "abused" by my ex fiancee
55:13 <LordGeir> I take meds just to get a few hours "sleep" each night
55:49 <Nothing\> LordGeir, i have the same problem though. My brain is always going full steam. Which is why i need the sedating drugs. But then I end up either being exhausted, groggy, foggy, and just useless.
55:50 <LordGeir> They gave me double doses of nitrazepam and I didn't even notice I had taken it
57:13 <Nothing\> LordGeir, seroquel worked wonders for me with my sleep. I was able to take a low dose, about 25-50mg consistently for almost 10 years and still get more or less the same effectiveness from it. And it would almost always make me fall asleep for a good 10 hours or so. Plus I could control what time I went to bed. I just took my dose an hour before i wanted to be in bed.
57:44 <Nothing\> a lot of people say seroquel's a bad drug with horrible side effects. But those people were put on like 500-600mg a day. Which I couldn't even imagine that.
57:55 <Nothing\> just 100mg made me sleep 16 hours
58:18 <Nothing\> LordGeir, but the single best thing i've ever done to help my insomnia was earplugs
58:19 <LordGeir> That's something I don't get about myself; I don't feel the effects of the meds they give me. The only one that really does something, is a fairly lightweight zopiclone
58:57 <LordGeir> I was on 100mg of Seroquel, but I refused to go any higher
59:49 <Nothing\> ugh zopiclone
00:08 <Nothing\> lol last time i had that i somehow ate the whole bottle of 28x 7.5mg in one night
00:11 <LordGeir> I also use earplugs at times, but I think I need to get some more "medical" ones, because the ones I get on the pharmacy only works 2-4 days, then I get very sore ear canals
00:14 <Nothing\> on top of a bottle of mouthwash, apparently
00:20 <Nothing\> and who knows what else
00:53 <Nothing\> all i remember is taking a couple zopiclones in the evening. Next thing I know it's 7am and I'm waking up in a white room in 4 point restraints and no clue why
02:45 <Antarez> every time i woke up like that i had a pretty good idea why
08:02 <Nothing\> lol yeah i could hazard a guess but i wanted specifics
08:20 <Ampera> Meal ideas people
08:23 <Ampera> something that reheats well
08:23 <Nothing\> i wound up going back later to read the ER report. They wanted to charged me fucking $70 to make a copy of 4 pages.
08:30 <Nothing\> Ampera, hard tack
08:32 <Nothing\> musli
08:34 <Nothing\> um
08:41 <Ampera> I need to start cooking more of my own food, and I need to do it so it's easy to reheat after work
08:46 <Nothing\> pine cone tea
08:46 <Ampera> cause I keep eating out, and I hate it
08:50 * Ampera deletes Nothing\ 
09:03 <Nothing\> newspaper casserole
09:06 <Ampera> I'm gonna do stroganov, and I want to do enchiladas
09:20 <Ampera> I can do meatloaf
09:23 <Nothing\> only stroganov i've ever had is hamburger helper
09:31 <Ampera> I'd be making real stroganov
09:38 <Nothing\> btw i don't eat hamburger helper anymore
09:41 <Nothing\> can't abide by the stuff
09:42 <Ampera> I have it on occasion
09:45 <Ampera> it's a good lazymeal
09:46 <Nothing\> it's all my ex ever mad
09:51 <Ampera> lol
09:53 <Nothing\> and we've been divorced like 16 years
10:07 <Nothing\> so i've had a long time to get used to it again
17:51 <LordGeir> My fav "lazymeal" is Mac&Cheese. But I make it from scratch, so it's not all that lazy
19:39 <Ampera> I want to avoid too much pasta
19:42 <Ampera> as pasta is easy to get sick of
41:29 * electrohead hugs Ampera's face with virtual things
42:36 <Nothing\> Ampera, did i tell you i've been playing around making geometry art?
47:27 <Nothing\> here it is
47:28 <Nothing\> https://i.ibb.co/r6hhkqD/Geometry-Drawing.jpg
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03:45 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o steve30
11:33 <rust_collector> Nothing\ i still think i have to see some of your other weirdo drawings
29:04 * arch is sick of Ampera 
52:45 <electrohead> arch: are you sick and tired of being sick and tired?
54:12 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWIADZKU9dw
54:13 <EEVBot> [url] Flyleaf - I'm So Sick - YouTube | www.youtube.com
17:20 <Nothing\> you know a game's a winner when you grow sick of it in literally less than 10 seconds.
17:38 <Nothing\> fucking "jump knight" i shoulda known from the generic title
18:11 <rust_collector> nah, you just need to play it some more, to really "get" it
18:15 <Nothing\> BLANK knight is about as common a name for games as it was to use the word Space in the name of a game in the 70s and 80s
18:43 <Nothing\> i think that would require brain damage rust_collector
19:02 <rust_collector> that is... an option
19:24 <rust_collector> a slight lobotomy could help
20:02 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
23:54 <T3sl4> i'd rather have a bottle in front of me
24:02 <T3sl4> or, how does that go? maybe it's both
25:35 <LordGeir> I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomi ;)
25:40 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVf533H1FiA
25:40 <T3sl4> ayyy
25:40 <EEVBot> [url] Body Count - Street Lobotomy (1994) - YouTube | www.youtube.com
26:16 <T3sl4> rust_collector: sounds like anthrax, but heavier
26:39 <rust_collector> sort of, I guess
27:29 <T3sl4> i don't think they got any radio play back then, well, with a song like that they wouldn't lol, but it's solid metal
28:11 * electrohead blares metal
28:25 <rust_collector> Oh, they did, a little bit, but the previous album was probably more known, but maybe not so much on the bigger radio stations
28:26 <electrohead> body count.
28:28 <electrohead> heh
29:20 <rust_collector> not complicated, but... it is sort of catchy, like a pop metal sort of thing
29:25 <T3sl4> probably korn, nonpoint, etc are the oldest [racially]black metal bands i know
29:33 <electrohead> "I love to smoke crack"
29:42 <electrohead> yeah so the music is good, the lyrics .. ehhh
29:44 <electrohead> lol
29:59 <T3sl4> yeah i mean, it's basically a rap song, doing all the vulgar things a rap song does
30:03 <T3sl4> but it thrashes
30:10 <rust_collector> you have to think also, he did nto go hunting cops much either
30:57 <rust_collector> most of their songs are a bit anti-whatever, as seen from the wrong side
32:05 <rust_collector> but I like their little "samples" of old black sabbath, and such, that they mix in here and there
33:09 <electrohead> yeah it thrashes for sure
33:11 <electrohead> <3
33:30 <T3sl4> good metal is always anti-something
33:38 <electrohead> then again, lyrically speaking - hrmm, let's look at the lyrics of most death metal songs
33:40 <electrohead> heh
34:08 <rust_collector> yes, maybe that is why I stay on the black metal side of things...
34:40 <T3sl4> fewer words to understand means more vodka for the brain
35:29 <T3sl4> if they're using words at all, which is sometimes hard to tell
35:42 <LordGeir> This won't make sense to non-Norwegians, but rust_collector will get it: Det er bedre med en dram i timen enn en time i Drammen
35:53 <rust_collector> yup
35:59 <steve30> hi
36:07 <T3sl4> i gather it rhymes, but beyond that idk :P
36:27 * T3sl4 scritches steve30
37:08 <steve30> *purr*
37:36 * electrohead films the scritches
38:42 * jaymax scritches the film
39:19 <jaymax> Hope you like tinsel, electrohead
39:22 * T3sl4 steve30s the scritches
39:54 * jaymax T3sl4's the steve30
40:13 <jaymax> !fart
40:13 * EEVBot unleashes the demons upon everyone
40:29 <electrohead> jaymax: lol
40:44 <electrohead> !beer jaymax
40:45 * EEVBot pings a beer can off of jaymax's head
40:50 <electrohead> sowwies.
40:56 * jaymax pongs
41:20 <jaymax> Thanks for the pre-dent beer
41:21 * T3sl4 fries up some "beer can" in a jamaican accent
59:33 <electrohead> lol
09:09 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/wCgrm73.jpeg
14:31 <rust_collector> uh, okay
14:34 <rust_collector> https://youtu.be/iQN8HoqMQVI
14:36 <EEVBot> [url] I Kamp Med Kvitekrist - YouTube | youtu.be
17:01 <T3sl4> nice
20:04 <rust_collector> well, you sort of asked for it
50:52 <electrohead> T3sl4: pepper filling is done.
50:54 <electrohead> \o/
51:04 <electrohead> tastes so amazing, especially with the habanero cheddar cheese
51:07 * electrohead sends you some
51:08 <T3sl4> i'll fill you
51:37 <rust_collector> stop eating the filling
51:47 <electrohead> well that's what she said.
51:54 * electrohead beers T3sl4 as well
51:59 * steve30 coffees
52:05 <electrohead> rust_collector: I'd beer you, but you'd probably send it somewhere else lol
52:14 <electrohead> !coffee steve30
52:14 * EEVBot drowns steve30 in coffee
52:17 <rust_collector> yesss
53:15 <rust_collector> I wonder how an old black powder cannon would work, to shoot beer cans
09:23 <electrohead> hrmm
09:26 <electrohead> that sounds fun
09:31 <electrohead> rust_collector: do it, and make a video
09:33 <electrohead> <3
10:49 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
13:17 <rust_collector> I need my hitler and putin posters to have in the background, before I make any videos
27:55 Quit: dogwo ([email protected]) EOF from client
33:57 <electrohead> no.
35:00 <T3sl4> oh nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMzo9zjkuHc
35:01 <EEVBot> [url] Primitive Technology: Trebuchet - YouTube | www.youtube.com
39:00 <rust_collector> didn't he quit?
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01:37 <electrohead> he totally didn't
01:42 <electrohead> also - https://old.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/wgaqb3/weatherman_discovers_his_monitor_has_a_touch/
01:45 <EEVBot> [reddit] Weatherman discovers his monitor has a touch screen... immediately turns into a kid. (':snoo_hearteyes: Wholesome Moments :snoo_simple_smile:' flair) (https://v.redd.it/dp7414os5rf91) to r/MadeMeSmile | 65823 points (98.0%) | 694 comments | Posted by shaka_sulu | Created at 2022-08-04 - 16:01:21EDT
03:37 Quit: Some_Person ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
24:29 * electrohead wonderes around
44:45 <electrohead> wonders*
44:57 <electrohead> took me 20 minutes to notice the typo
45:43 <rust_collector> oooh! I have been sitting here for 20 minutes, trying to figure out what you meant
46:32 <rust_collector> and, when I type meant into a search engine, I get
46:34 <rust_collector> t
46:38 <rust_collector> lol
47:16 <rust_collector> can also be 1.teaspoon, 2. teaspoonful, 3. top quark
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07:23 <electrohead> lol
07:25 <electrohead> :p
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53:31 <arch> hello fellow degenerates
43:52 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
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12:11 * Halcyon_ licks the room
12:20 * Halcyon_ pokes electrohead 
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07:13 * Halcyon licks electrohead for good measure
07:47 <Halcyon> You're a quiet bunch today
28:53 <steve30> hi
36:51 * steve30 coffees
39:31 <Halcyon> steve30: https://twitter.com/NoContextBrits/status/1555161439253712896
39:32 <EEVBot> [Twitter] No Context Brits (@NoContextBrits): The first rule of naming something, never ask the British public. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZULFcBX0AEgbHk.jpg | 2092 RTs | 23524 ♥s | Posted: 2022-08-04 - 11:59:15UTC
39:34 <Halcyon> Is that for real?
40:17 <steve30> That sounds like the kind of name where they DID ask the public
40:22 <Halcyon> Aww damn it's not :(
40:24 <Halcyon> Shame
41:01 <Halcyon> It's like some of the Sydney Ferries... they asked the public. One was called "Boaty McBoatface"
41:10 <Halcyon> I think they then renamed it not long after that
41:35 <Halcyon> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-30/ferry-mcferryface-to-be-renamed-to-may-gibbs/9375688
41:36 <EEVBot> [url] Ferry McFerryface gets name change amid questions over popular vote - ABC News | www.abc.net.au
41:45 <Halcyon> McFerryface I'm sorry
42:09 <steve30> i think boaty mcboatface was an english one
42:17 <Halcyon> Yes I think you're right
51:32 <K> hello ramens
08:03 * jaymax adds some egg
09:27 <K> yah
09:38 * K had a nice ramen yesterday
09:51 <K> with egg and meats and everything
16:38 * LordGeir ponders which project to start
26:39 <K> the biggun
27:51 <Halcyon> Stop it you guys. Now I want noodles
34:55 * steve30 has M&S southern fried chicken
45:31 * Ampera shoots Halcyon 
45:35 * Ampera hugs him as he dies
45:50 <Halcyon> Amperrrrra
45:51 <Halcyon> Love meeee
46:01 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
46:10 <Halcyon> I'm doing good, how are you?
46:17 <Ampera> tired
46:27 <Ampera> I have a new tea to try
46:28 <Halcyon> Didn't sleep so well ?
46:31 <Halcyon> Oh?
46:33 <Ampera> I slept fine
46:38 <Ampera> no problems sleeping
46:40 <Ampera> idk why I'm tired
46:45 <Ampera> It's mixed berry black tea, from Twinings
46:46 <Halcyon> It's Friday
46:53 <Halcyon> I love berry teas
55:01 <LordGeir> Forest Fruit and Strawberry/Kiwi are my favorite berry teas
05:08 <Halcyon> I'll be back soon
05:23 <Halcyon> Actually Ampera....
05:45 * steve30 needs coffee
05:52 <Halcyon> Have you had much to do with BTRFS ?
22:51 <Ampera> Halcyon, sorta
23:01 <Ampera> I sorta know how it compares to ZFS, and I use ZFS a lot
23:16 <Ampera> Basically it's ZFS for people who can't use ZFS. It has one or two benefits, and a few downsides
23:24 <Ampera> its real world stability is still an open question
26:47 <Halcyon> Do you know much about converting an existing BTRFS volume to a RAID after the fact?
27:07 <Halcyon> So single disk to say a RAID 0 or 1
27:40 <Ampera> I mean you can do it the traditional way
27:44 <Ampera> copy off/copy on
28:08 <Halcyon> Of course
28:35 <Ampera> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Using_Btrfs_with_Multiple_Devices
28:36 <EEVBot> [url] Using Btrfs with Multiple Devices - btrfs Wiki | btrfs.wiki.kernel.org
28:38 <Ampera> looks like you can
28:43 <Ampera> this is something ZFS can't quite do so well
28:51 <Ampera> afaik anyways
29:11 <Halcyon> I'll have a read
32:09 <steve30> One of my poundland Alkaline batteries has leaked in my vintage casio calculator
32:09 <Ampera> afaik parity RAID is not yet stable in btrfs
32:15 <Ampera> but this may be old info, do your own research
33:13 <Halcyon> Copy
33:17 <Halcyon> Will do
33:53 <Halcyon> Oh no steve30
34:02 <Halcyon> Did you rescue it in time?
34:50 <steve30> yeah, no damage
35:00 <Halcyon> Good stuff
35:13 <steve30> You can tell its an old calculator; It consumes a whopping 0.0004W
35:25 <Halcyon> Lookout :P
35:46 <Halcyon> The internal resistance of some batteries is probably still more
36:04 <jaymax> https://chat.chinwag.im/files/17dcf00c-43d0-4ba0-9c7a-482ae19d1730/vgpAt-hDSFizLm-9EixW-Q.jpg
36:10 <jaymax> Oh hey steve30
36:22 <steve30> meow
36:25 <Halcyon> Is that your kittles jaymax ?
36:59 <jaymax> Not mine
37:09 <jaymax> https://chat.chinwag.im/files/282f9342-296d-4ed4-863e-23d3ee0bd02c/udGa4W82T4KgA3ChFaWkMQ.jpg
38:51 <steve30> hehe, the other battery in this calculator is still 1.5V
41:08 * steve30 purrs at Halcyon 
41:25 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) Connection closed
42:40 * steve30 purrs at jaymax instead
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24:23 * jaymax rubs steve30 's ears
26:15 <jaymax> https://chat.chinwag.im/files/8d441be0-c458-42e3-bdde-34b6f0ad2f91/8rCyiexeS56ggRCH5X8T6A.jpg
26:20 <jaymax> ^ Samantha coming out of her nap
27:00 <jaymax> (the fluffy boy from before was Binky Bob)
29:22 <steve30> meow
30:14 <jaymax> :^3
53:05 <Ampera> caaaaaaaats
53:07 * Ampera pets jaymax 
55:39 * jaymax rolls over to show the belly
56:13 * Ampera goes in for the kill, like all cats have always suspected might happen
56:48 * jaymax ends up with one fewer life
57:17 * jaymax pounces away
58:58 <LordGeir> I love cats. They always land on their feet. But the craziest animal is the squirrel; They can fall from 100ft and run off almost before they hit the ground :o
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