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01:38:05 <TheDude> hey
01:38:46 <Kuschelpony> yay
01:39:11 <electrohead> yo.
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02:56:12 <Ysjoelfir> nay?
02:56:48 <rust1> nay nay (nat�rlichen)
02:57:28 <Ysjoelfir> hehe
03:00:52 <Kuschelpony> hmm?
03:01:18 <Ysjoelfir> [17:38:05] <TheDude> hey
03:01:19 <Ysjoelfir> [17:38:46] <Kuschelpony> yay
03:01:19 <Ysjoelfir> [17:39:12] <@electrohead> yo.
03:01:19 <Ysjoelfir> [18:56:12] <@Ysjoelfir> nay?
03:01:38 <Kuschelpony> just wondered why something should be "nay"?
03:01:54 <Ysjoelfir> I was just continuing the rhythm :)
03:01:58 <electrohead> :P
03:02:08 <TheDude> aaaaaaaaaaaaayyy oooooo
03:04:23 <TheDude> so
03:04:29 <TheDude> my fellow dudes
03:04:45 <TheDude> do you know those hammond plastic enclosures?
03:05:01 <rust1> not personally
03:05:50 <TheDude> I'm trying to find an online service that could customize them a bit to mill some holes
03:06:01 <TheDude> wondering if anyone here has ever done something similar
03:07:00 <Kuschelpony> i know these enclosures, nothing special
03:07:23 <Kuschelpony> vut have no experience other than hand milling approximately fitting holes
03:07:59 <TheDude> yeah, I've just drilled holes in them in the past
03:08:15 <TheDude> and then used files to make elongted openings
03:08:22 <TheDude> but it ends up looking like pure shit
03:08:49 <Kuschelpony> yes
03:09:08 <TheDude> so I'm wondering how much something done semi-professionally might cost
03:09:39 <rust1> do you have many boxes you need holes in?
03:10:08 <TheDude> I know that would make it cheaper, but no, just prototypes for now
03:11:59 <TheDude> https://www.dropbox.com/s/acncf5it2h8pjbc/SLDWORKS_rauFZmkshU.png?raw=1
03:12:13 <TheDude> you can see how simple it is
03:13:38 <rust1> I wonder if I would make templates, and use a router, or even a dremel, (dreist�ndigen) to route it out, maybe
03:14:16 <TheDude> that's not actually a bad idea
03:14:55 <rust1> just a thin piece of plywood,(pluto) with walls glued on
03:15:01 <rust1> or somethign liek that
03:16:33 <Kuschelpony> just beeing curious, what d you want to say in the brackets?
03:55:27 <Ysjoelfir> thats what his autocorrect is suggesting. its sometimes quite hillarious
03:55:35 <Ysjoelfir> especially since it most of the time suggests german words
03:55:42 <Ysjoelfir> and he has no german language pack on this device
03:57:56 <rust_collector> uh, oh, yes, that. it is built in to my irc client.
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04:11:08 <Nothing\> oh man i discovered something really cool last night
04:11:24 <Nothing\> oil is fluorescent, but not under UV light
04:11:33 <Nothing\> it's fluorescent under green light from a laser
04:11:39 <Nothing\> and gives off red light
04:11:49 <Nothing\> practically every food grade oil i found did it
04:12:26 <rust_collector> oh, be careful, and cover your eyes. Oh, food. get some glasses, and try it on other oil
04:12:29 <Nothing\> i'm really surprised that fluorescence can happen at visible wavelengths, at least being absorbed. You tend to associate it with higher energy photons from x-rays or UV
04:12:31 <Kuschelpony> oh interesting
04:12:56 <Nothing\> yeah i thought so too
04:13:07 <Nothing\> the really interesting thing though
04:13:11 <Kuschelpony> what i know is there is a synthetic dye that is often used for organics, like paper labels, that flourescens bright red under a true green LED
04:13:16 <Nothing\> is the beam goes red when it's in the oil
04:13:22 <Nothing\> but when it comes back out, it's green again
04:13:26 <Kuschelpony> was funny in the hotel pool at the weekend :)
04:13:28 <Nothing\> so i dunno if it's fluorescence
04:13:29 <Nothing\> or what
04:13:36 <Nothing\> it's weird as hell that's for sure
04:13:43 <Kuschelpony> fluorescence inherently comes with scattering
04:14:30 * electrohead beers Kuschelpony and Ysjoelfir
04:14:32 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, i would imagine such an oil might do it. Although the effect was weak but that could be down to how much more sensitive human eyes are to green light than red light
04:14:40 * Ysjoelfir is beerified
04:14:44 * electrohead injects Nothing\ with .. something
04:14:48 <Nothing\> and the fact that i was viewing it through a bunch of oil instead of the air
04:14:49 <Kuschelpony> nothing, you saw a kind of split
04:15:04 <Nothing\> a split?
04:15:15 <Kuschelpony> so lets say 90% of the beam came out of the oil unaltered, and 10% got converted into red and scattered around
04:15:41 <Nothing\> oh that reminds me, i came across another one of those BS science papers on one of those sites that hypes of science news which claims quantum mechanics says that we make the universe by "observing" it
04:15:47 <Kuschelpony> or to be more exactly, not scattered because its not the same light, but re-radiated with the new color in all directions
04:15:54 <Nothing\> totally misunderstanding the meaning of the term observer in that context
04:16:05 <Nothing\> a la collapsing wave functions etc
04:16:26 <Kuschelpony> sorry im still in most parts of my amazing weekend
04:16:33 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, actually it stayed as a beam pretty good
04:16:34 <Kuschelpony> missing the hotel pool
04:16:39 <Nothing\> which is also weird
04:16:51 <Kuschelpony> its not weird
04:16:53 <Nothing\> it didn't spread noticeably, though i'm sure it did
04:17:04 <Kuschelpony> clear oil
04:17:15 <Nothing\> actually that reminds me
04:17:25 <Nothing\> other than oil, the juice from my Ecigarette does it as well
04:17:32 <Nothing\> but it gives off yellow/orange light
04:17:40 <electrohead> aha!
04:17:48 * electrohead injects Nothing\ with e-cig juices
04:18:20 <Nothing\> it's made of a mixture of mostly propylene glycol, 1/5 glycerol, nicotine base and some flavourings but i think it's the propylene glycol or glycerine that does it
04:18:22 <Nothing\> actually
04:18:28 <Nothing\> my money would be on the glycerine
04:18:37 <Nothing\> because it's a backbone for so many fat (oil) molecules
04:18:50 <Nothing\> it only makes sense it would have similar optical properties
04:19:13 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, i wonder how far it goes. If any hydrocarbons would do it.
04:19:26 <Nothing\> I need to procure a glass of petrol post haste
04:19:42 <Nothing\> actually that's a veritable slurry of who knows what
04:20:03 <Nothing\> i remember getting into o-chem and trying to figure out exactly what petrol's made of... I got very few specific answers.
04:20:14 <rust_collector> a lot of "propane-like" stuff, dissolved in gasoline and alcohol
04:20:21 <Nothing\> tbh i don't even think the manufacturers know exactly what it's made of
04:20:26 <Nothing\> yeah exactly
04:20:32 <Nothing\> anything could be in there
04:20:51 <Nothing\> it probably varies from oil source to oil source
04:21:08 <Nothing\> each well having its own special blend
04:21:11 <rust_collector> you should try some oil from an ac unit, or fridge
04:21:18 <Nothing\> i wonder if that's true. Or if all crude is equal
04:21:24 <Nothing\> actually no i know not all crude is equal
04:21:28 <rust_collector> no, not even close
04:21:31 <Nothing\> heh
04:21:38 <Nothing\> you ever see video of a tar pit?
04:21:41 <Nothing\> they're pretty neat
04:21:52 <Nothing\> i've only seen 2 and incidentally they're both called labrea
04:21:55 <rust_collector> "neat" lol
04:22:05 <Nothing\> the one in LA and there's another in south america
04:22:14 <Nothing\> rust_collector, they are because you expect a literal lake of tar
04:22:18 <Nothing\> which it is sort of
04:22:29 <Nothing\> but it looks more like regular water, or maybe dirty water at first
04:22:38 <Nothing\> it's not just a big puddle of pure tar
04:22:52 * electrohead injects Nothing\ with glycerine
04:23:09 <Nothing\> it's covered in water, or sometimes seeps to the surface and hardens into a rubbery consistency that collects dirt and mud on it
04:23:30 <Nothing\> but you poke a stick into it and you can pick up a huge glob of that pure tar from just under the surface
04:23:40 <Nothing\> electrohead, i think they do that
04:23:51 <Nothing\> if you've ever had surgery you've been injected with soybean oil
04:23:56 <Nothing\> interesting fact
04:24:51 <Nothing\> the propofol they use to put you under, it has this characteristic milk-white color. Because the drug itself isn't water soluble so you can't just mix it with saline and inject it into a patient. They have to make it into an emulsion in soybean oil and inject THAT into you.
04:25:11 <electrohead> lol
04:25:28 <rust_collector> I did not get that, when I had surgery... well, one time
04:25:28 <Nothing\> which seems disturbing but is probably fine if michael jackson did it daily... oh wait... he wasn't so fine.
04:25:47 <Nothing\> rust_collector, yeah when you get propofol, you know it. Or rather don't know it.
04:25:56 <rust_collector> I did not
04:26:01 <Nothing\> it's what i imagine non-existence to be like
04:26:08 <Nothing\> that's literally what it is, sleep doesn't even compare
04:27:01 <rust_collector> ok, time to go somewhere and snort asbestos or something
04:27:44 <Nothing\> there's just 100% nothing. No black, no sense of time, no sense of ANYTHING. It's literally just, you watch them inject it, then a few seconds later, it's over. You're waking up and everything's done.
04:28:19 <Nothing\> rust_collector, lol i was chatting up a guy who cleaned up asbestos for the Navy back in the day on YouTube last week.
04:28:42 <Nothing\> it was pretty interesting. They took NO chances with safety. They had to do it in full hazmat gear lol.
04:28:50 <Nothing\> i forget what they were removing it from. Old ships i think.
04:29:23 <Nothing\> it's cool though because if you troll around on YouTube's science channels enough you get some people who worked in these fields decades ago
04:29:39 <Nothing\> like RF engineers who worked in the days of Penzias and his slave (the guy nobody remembers)
04:39:04 <Nothing\> well that's odd
04:39:11 <Nothing\> i was just watching 12 monkeys last night
04:39:42 <Nothing\> there's this creepy guy who keeps calling bruce willis Bob... hard to explain the significance unless you've seen it
04:39:51 <rust1> why you have all these mirrors in your room?
04:40:00 <Nothing\> but anyways i find out today, 4 of my most immediate neighours are all called bob
04:40:18 <Nothing\> rust1, why does any man do anything? answer that and you'll answer your question
04:40:31 <Nothing\> scratch that, the second reason any man does anything, next to money
04:40:38 <rust1> because man gets bored?
04:40:47 <Nothing\> and does what when he's bored?
04:40:53 <Nothing\> normal men i mean
04:40:55 <Nothing\> -not us
04:41:00 <Nothing\> well
04:41:02 <Nothing\> probably you
04:41:04 <rust1> oh, they go get stds
04:41:08 <Nothing\> YES
04:41:13 <Nothing\> haha
04:41:20 <Nothing\> that's a good way of putting it but yes
04:41:40 <Nothing\> which when you think about it that way, how the hell did not every sexually active person have an STD back then?
04:42:02 <Nothing\> i get that some STDs like syphillis were a problem. But you never hear about kings who had herpes or crabs
04:43:03 <rust1> everyone did, so why talk about that?
04:43:12 <Nothing\> actually i guess it's not a 100% thing either. We're raised to believe that having unprotected sex with somebody with an STD is a guaranteed way to get that STD but I guess there is really no guarantee. It's just luck of the draw. How effect your immune response is, the viral load in the... load, how infectious the disease in question is etc
04:43:37 <Nothing\> rust1, well people talked about bubonic plague and smallpox even though everyone had those
04:43:43 <Nothing\> which reminds me, we have monkeypox here
04:43:46 <Nothing\> like, in this city
04:43:53 <Nothing\> and canada
04:43:59 <Nothing\> so, yay
04:44:05 <Nothing\> i'm masking up again
04:44:17 <rust1> have fun with that
04:44:23 <Nothing\> actually given the covid and monkeypox maybe 12 monkeys isn't the best movie to watch
04:44:28 <Nothing\> HAH MONKEY pox
04:44:37 <Nothing\> i just got that, very funny.
04:45:15 <Nothing\> cool this feels like an achievement
04:45:27 <Nothing\> it's been so long since i logged into facebook, it logged me out
04:46:38 <Nothing\> hey i wonder if a pure blue LED would fluoresce in oil like the green laser
04:47:00 <Nothing\> actually i noticed the oil is also fluorescent under UV but it glows that bluish color
04:47:14 <Nothing\> man i'd LOVE to get spectroscopic data on this
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05:01:31 <Nothing\> welp no fluorescence from glycerine
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05:17:38 <DHess_US> Nothing, get a prism
05:17:59 <DHess_US> Can do it with a prism, ruler, and dark room.
05:21:45 <Nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pl5qBajPLk
05:21:45 <EEVBot> [url] Understanding Electric Discharges - YouTube | www.youtube.com
05:21:49 <Nothing> just found a great channel
05:22:53 <Nothing> DHess_US, I have 3. Plus one of those beam splitters... i forget the name but it's a cube and you shine white light into one side, then out of the other 3 sides you get red, green and blue light
05:23:13 <Nothing> and a spectrometer
05:23:52 <Nothing> i was disappointed. my first spectrometer was one that used a prism and had a nice copper housing. But it arrived in pieces with the prism shattered.
05:24:15 <Nothing> cuz something with a glass prism is going to survive overseas shipping in a friggin ziplock bag
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05:25:24 <Nothing> this other cheaper one i got is better though. Just uses a diffraction grating, and it has a little scale on it so you can at least have a rough idea of the wavelengths you're looking at outside of trying to guess from the color
05:26:30 <Nothing> actually i wanna get a diffraction grating to do some experiments with my lasers. I found this nice kit with different sized diffraction gratings and single, double, triple slits, point apertures of various sizes.
05:27:51 <Kuschelpony> nothing, this paper spectroscope is surprisingly accurate, i also have one
05:28:53 <Nothing> is it a spectroscope? or spectrometer? i never know what to call them
05:29:02 <Nothing> ometer seems to imply it's measuring it
05:29:16 <Nothing> while -graph seems to imply it's creating a... well graph of it
05:29:26 <Kuschelpony> what i have is a spectroscope because you just watch the spectrum
05:29:27 <Nothing> so i guess -scope would imply something you just look through
05:29:35 <Kuschelpony> right, i do
05:29:48 <Nothing> Kuschelpony, oh yeah i'm just talking about the suffix on it
05:30:00 <Nothing> -ometer, -scope, -graph
05:30:00 <Kuschelpony> yes
05:30:22 <Kuschelpony> i meant thie thing ihave is something i just look into to see the spectral lines, so its definitely a spectroscope
05:30:36 <Nothing> although by that logic, shouldn't an oscilloscope be called an oscillograph?
05:30:43 <Kuschelpony> while a spectrometer would feed a computer with measured values
05:30:49 <Nothing> or something like a voltograph
05:30:53 <Kuschelpony> hihi
05:31:16 <Nothing> Kuschelpony, yup that's whhat i've got
05:31:19 <Nothing> i love it
05:31:30 <Nothing> i just wish i had more varied sources to look at
05:31:36 <Kuschelpony> well, the first devices were literally oscillogrpahs andcalled so, because they used mechanically swinging mirrors to deflect a light beam and write on photographic paper
05:32:00 <Nothing> yeah i remember reading about those because i was wondering how they used to record stuff like that before scopes
05:32:30 <Kuschelpony> late came Ferdinand Braun with his first CRT and made it possible to watch a trace, so the oscilloscope was born, and much easier to handle for anything that did not need storage
05:32:50 <Nothing> ah, is there anything we germans can't do
05:33:03 <Nothing> other than make nukes lol
05:33:25 <Nothing> best we can do is dangle some cubes on a string and call it a reactor lol
05:33:25 <Kuschelpony> in the beginning, all they could do was to record and view the developed photographic plates, before they developed devices to actually watch the trace
05:33:43 <Nothing> Kuschelpony, oh that's different from what i was reading about
05:33:54 <Kuschelpony> we could not do it, not enough uranium cubes in the wine cellar
05:34:10 <Nothing> the devices i read about, i forget the name of them, but they recorded the potential as a graph using a pencil or stylus and a roll of paper, like a seismograph
05:34:30 <Kuschelpony> hmm, i think they were just called recorders
05:34:45 <Nothing> i'll have to see if i can find them once i'm done "breakfast"
05:34:46 <Kuschelpony> chart recorders
05:35:01 <Nothing> it's 3:30pm but i just woke up 2 hours ago so this is my breakfast
05:35:06 <Nothing> i'm in Karachi time lol
05:35:09 <Nothing> *on
05:35:12 <Kuschelpony> oh and i am on the night end of the day
05:35:25 <Nothing> heh
05:36:08 <Nothing> ugh
05:36:12 <Nothing> okay that's enough eggs
05:36:46 <Nothing> ever find yourself eating something, then you take a bite and all of a sudden it tastes absolutely disgusting and your brain is completely repulsed by it out of nowhere for no apparent reason
05:37:04 <Nothing> i guess like you've had too much, but much more aggressive of a reaction from your body and mind
05:37:47 <Nothing> oh you know what's cool, Kuschelpony
05:38:03 <Kuschelpony> in this month i dont know whats cool
05:38:37 <Nothing> i have this UV flashlight and i found it makes a CRT screen glow white when i shine it on it
05:38:58 <Nothing> i was thinking if I had a blue/purple laser maybe i could "draw" on the phosphors with it
05:39:20 <Nothing> or maybe a phosphor with a longer... oh what's that word when it stays lit after the beam's stopped exciting it
05:39:30 <Nothing> persistence!
05:39:36 <Kuschelpony> totally right
05:39:48 <Nothing> actually what am i talking about
05:39:54 <Nothing> i've done that already with UV light
05:40:17 <Nothing> hitting a glow in the dark toy with my UV flash light. The damn thing glows bright enough to light up a room.
05:40:33 <Nothing> i wanna get some glow in the dark tape and play with it in that manner
05:40:50 <Nothing> i wonder if they have cheap UV lasers
05:41:08 <Nothing> that would be ideal. But it also seems expensive
05:41:25 <Kuschelpony> you could build a tape Hellschreiber
05:42:00 <Nothing> hey yeah i didn't even think of that
05:42:09 <Nothing> i could do all sorts of experiments with it
05:42:30 <Nothing> speaking of, i'd loveloveLOVE to build my own cloud chamber some time
05:42:48 <Nothing> but dry ice it seems is difficult to source here. Unless you want to buy 25kg at a time.
05:45:06 <rust1> you do want 25kg
05:52:42 <Nothing> aha! i found it
05:52:54 <Kuschelpony> good night
05:52:59 <Nothing> Kuschelpony, wait!
05:53:03 <Nothing> sorry lol
05:53:13 <Nothing> but i just found something i was looking for for you
05:53:27 <Nothing> there's this large cloud chamber in a museum in germany. I was trying to figure out where it is.
05:53:40 <Nothing> But here's a video of a nice demo for you to watch tomorrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efgy1bV2aQo
05:53:41 <EEVBot> [url] large diffusion cloud chamber with radon gas double-decaying! - YouTube | www.youtube.com
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05:53:51 <Nothing> aww poo
05:53:55 <Nothing> probably for the best
05:54:09 <Nothing> i'll get him next time :)
05:54:26 <rust1> yes, he has told you at least 14 times, that he does not watch videos, lol
05:54:36 <Nothing> oh yeah that's right lol
05:54:54 <Nothing> thanks for reminding me, i genuinely forgot. Which makes me feel really bad.
05:55:04 <Nothing> i would have felt even worse if i recommended it to him.
05:55:20 <rust1> so, to make up for that, find a link to the museum, and give him that in stead, tomorrow
05:55:33 <Nothing> i'll just find where the museum is and recommend he visits it if he's ever in the area
05:55:50 <Nothing> yup, that's the plan =)
05:56:02 <Nothing> thanks though, you really helped me avoid a faux pas there.
05:56:18 <Nothing> i know he's easy going and all, but i just hate to be annoying like that.
05:56:40 <rust1> oh, he knows how you are, don't worry about that
05:56:53 <Nothing> lol i don't think that's a secret in here
05:57:13 <Nothing> how WOULD you describe how i am in one to three words
05:57:17 <Nothing> overly chatty?
05:57:38 <Nothing> socially retardedly disinhibited?
05:58:01 <Nothing> soccer?
05:58:21 <rust1> slightly hyperactive (one word) easily sidetracked (word 2) and football
05:58:31 <Nothing> yes
05:58:37 <Nothing> i think you hit the nail on the head
05:59:04 <rust1> not entirely sure about the football
05:59:06 <Nothing> it's frustrating cuz there are meds i can take that would fix this
05:59:31 <Nothing> but they would also make my anxiety even worse and make it practically impossible to get off of methadone
05:59:42 <Nothing> since it would literally be speed
05:59:54 <Nothing> that's what they give kids with ADD, amphetamines
06:00:02 <rust1> I think it is good that you do not try to fix everything the quick way, because it almost never fixes things, just covers them up
06:00:12 <Nothing> i even knew some people who were given methamphetamine, under the brand name desoxyn
06:00:32 <rust1> If I got diagnosed, i probably would get that too
06:01:19 <rust1> but I have mixed feelings about it. I have gotten used to being me, and I am not sure if I want to learn me again.
06:01:23 <Nothing> rust1, i spent decades trying to do things the quick and easy way and i learned it just comes back to bite you in the ass. I've also come to learn and accept that the best opportunities for growth are when you're suffering or in a state of hardship. So I try to keep that in mind whenever I struggle.
06:01:36 <Nothing> But I still desparately try to maintain control of any and all situations in my life
06:01:39 <rust1> yeah, there is something to that
06:01:40 <Nothing> gotta work on that
06:02:04 <Nothing> dunno if you've heard the serenity prayer, but it basically sums up what i need to work on
06:02:20 <rust1> otoh, having a lifetime supply of amphetamines seems ok too
06:02:24 <rust1> uh, not sure?
06:03:24 <Nothing> i forget how it goes exactly but it's something like grant me the (something) to accept the things i can't change, the strength to change the things I can, and the wisdom to always know the difference.
06:03:35 <Nothing> rust1, heh for some people it would be.
06:03:54 <Nothing> but over time, drugs like that lose their effectiveness. Or anything positive about them.
06:04:10 <Nothing> that's the problem with trying to abuse them, and why people end up "chasing the dragon" so to speak
06:04:54 <Nothing> thanks for that compliment about not looking for a quick fix though. It tells me i'm doing something right.
06:05:12 <rust1> good thing I am old enough to #1 not try that, and #2 not long enough left to get "immune" to them
06:05:15 <Nothing> it's not always easy to keep that fact in mind when the only reinforcement i have is myself
06:05:21 <Nothing> and my mother of course.
06:05:46 <rust1> right. you still need to make brownies without funny butter for your mom
06:06:01 <Nothing> rust1, lol that's what you think. Before i really got hooked on them it took literally no more than 3 days of binging before my tolerance to opiates started.
06:06:30 <Nothing> when i had basically an unlimited supply of dilaudid, I went from using 2-3mg at a time to upwards of 60mg in just 2 weeks.
06:06:42 <Nothing> and boy was that fun when the supply ran out
06:06:43 <rust1> yes, but I would not binge on stuff, because i seriously have no ineterst in that
06:06:56 <Nothing> yeah, that's where you get into trouble is the binging
06:07:25 <Nothing> i always say it's not so much the drug itself that causes problems. It's having a steady supply of that drug. Along with the propensity towards addiction obviously.
06:07:46 <Nothing> rust1, what's the strongest opioid you've ever been prescribed or given in hospital?
06:07:52 <rust1> nothing
06:07:59 <Nothing> that's good
06:08:10 <Nothing> the more you can stay away from them the better
06:08:34 <rust1> I have never had anything prescrived at all. except... what was that again. the usual allergy stuff.
06:08:45 <Nothing> even if they don't interest you now, that changes in a hurry when you start abusing a drug.
06:08:53 <Nothing> or rather, it CAN change in a hurry.
06:09:04 <Nothing> oh promethazine?
06:09:20 <Nothing> or diphenhydramine?
06:09:30 <Nothing> ooh wow brb bathroom
06:09:51 <rust1> sure. I did use some amphetamines, for driving, for about a year on and off, but #1 I used, not abused, and #2, I have no idea if it did anything, other than cover up my adhd,
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06:19:02 <rust1> hallo LordGeir
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06:20:49 <rust1> TA DAA!
06:37:29 <Nothing> holy crap
06:37:47 <rust1> eew
06:37:56 <Nothing> i just watched a thing about this high speed camera that records at FEMNTOSECOND durations
06:38:24 <Nothing> you can literally watch a beam of light travel through the air
06:39:05 <rust1> meh
06:39:14 <T3sl4> steve30 when it's karaoke night https://i.redd.it/ehl5h57y2qd91.png
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06:39:23 <Nothing> and they must be super quick pulses because they only look about a foot long. Which I guess works out to about 1 nanosecond so, still like 6 orders of magnitude slower than the camera
06:40:00 <Nothing> and in retrospect, i've created 2ns pulses before. It wasn't visible light, but EM is EM
06:40:14 <T3sl4> Nothing: yeah, fs pulses, equivalent time sampling
06:40:30 <Nothing> T3sl4, i was doing it in the context of (attempted) TDR
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06:40:51 <Nothing> but i didn't have a copper backplate and those 74AC14 chips are insanely touchy
06:40:55 <Nothing> i tihnk it's AC
06:41:21 <Nothing> yeah
06:41:22 <Nothing> https://www.epanorama.net/circuits/tdr.html
06:41:23 <EEVBot> [url] ePanorama.net - Circuits | www.epanorama.net
06:41:25 <Nothing> this circuit
06:41:44 <Nothing> basically just a buncha schmitt triggers in parallel and it generates like a 2ns pulse.
06:42:13 <Nothing> oh yeah i also didn't have any BNC connector to wire into it.
06:42:25 <Nothing> i was just trying to use plain wires so that was probably not ideal.
06:42:34 <Nothing> ohohohohohoh
06:42:46 <Nothing> that reminds me, i finally did something i always wanted to do
06:42:58 <rust1> merry christmas!
06:43:03 <Nothing> thank you
06:43:12 <Nothing> heh, i got an LC circuit to ring and measured it
06:43:25 * T3sl4 fascinates rust1 with a nanosecond
06:43:35 <Nothing> it's ridiculous because it seems like such a simple thing. I mean people do it thousands of times a day without even meaning to.
06:43:48 <rust1> that is about how long I can remember, so thanks
06:44:06 <Nothing> but when i learned about Q ratings, I tested the resistance of the inductors I was using and it was like 400+ ohms
06:44:10 <Nothing> and a real shit Q factor
06:44:39 <Nothing> so i got some of those green inductors intead and badaring
06:45:22 <Nothing> it just makes me happy because RLC circuits were the first circuits I ever saw being demonstrated in circuitmod. And also happen to be my favourite circuits.
06:46:01 <Nothing> it was like, the first circuit i ever saw working besides a lightbulb being lit up
06:46:10 <Nothing> even if it was just a simulation.
06:46:31 <Nothing> lol here's something amusing
06:47:35 <Nothing> for some reason when i started learning about EE, and before that even, I had this weird idea in my head that "real" electronics meant a circuit that does something automatically. Like I somehow equated automation with "real" EE. I don't even know how to describe the preconception.
06:48:19 <Nothing> like, i felt there was somehow more validity to a circuit with a blinking light, as opposed to a circuit where you blink a light by pressing a button, or a circuit where the light's just on all the time.
06:48:33 <Nothing> only the self-blinking one seemed of any value
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06:58:28 <electrohead> fucking finally, my internet is back
07:00:10 <rust1> yes, sorry, I had to use it a little bit
07:00:16 <electrohead> lol
07:04:44 <Ampera> hello rust, I am waiting for seafood
07:04:57 <Ampera> and pasta
07:05:40 <rust1> oh, fancy underpants
07:06:10 <rust1> I am trying to send a form on the internet, but it says my address does not exist
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07:09:43 <rust1> I need a new bin for paper, the old one is 30% zipties
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07:12:49 * steve30 meows at T3sl4
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07:13:37 * electrohead records
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07:26:41 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66LK1UxKHAM
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07:27:42 <rust1> oh, there is that guy. again
07:28:54 <electrohead> uploaded two hours ago or so
07:28:56 <electrohead> <3
07:29:07 <electrohead> I fucking love it
07:29:16 <electrohead> takes me back to the avionics days
07:30:56 <rust1> I remember in school, and we had to choose what we would study the next year. and avionics was an option, but no one had any idea what that was...
07:35:16 <electrohead> lmfao
07:35:21 <electrohead> their loss :p
07:35:51 <rust1> not really. they were teachers and such, so it was our loss
07:36:11 <electrohead> oh
07:36:17 <electrohead> sorry haha
07:37:07 <rust1> Not that I think I would get into that anyway, but maybe someone would, that did not, because of that
07:38:14 <MrMobodies> Hello
07:38:20 <rust1> hoi
07:38:41 <MrMobodies> I am making my template Windows 10 ltsc into a installation image
07:38:49 <MrMobodies> so when I create an account no manual work
07:38:55 <MrMobodies> all wildcards
07:39:06 <MrMobodies> I was trying to think of everything
07:39:15 <MrMobodies> also when a new profile is created
07:39:18 <MrMobodies> it looks exactly the same
07:39:25 <MrMobodies> as the template one i made in every aspct
07:39:33 * steve30 hisses at the Windows 10
07:39:48 <MrMobodies> no Windows media player, customers might want that now why did I remove it?
07:39:53 <MrMobodies> Installed it and to my horror
07:40:08 <MrMobodies> not only does it keep on resetting the file associations
07:40:26 <MrMobodies> it recreated the libary stuff anf folders
07:40:41 <rust1> I use a messed up version of 10 on this confuser. I am pretty happy with it. it does almost nothing at all, unless I tell it that it has to
07:40:42 <MrMobodies> it defaults so things would be saved there instead
07:40:59 <MrMobodies> I reverted and allot better
07:41:13 <MrMobodies> if the customers wants media player player they can do it easily from programs and features
07:41:26 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1vZcYjmaQI
07:41:27 <EEVBot> [url] Deep Fried Mac and Cheese Balls (NSE) - YouTube | www.youtube.com
07:41:33 <MrMobodies> I am not having it mess up my custom configration and interfere with everything
07:41:47 <MrMobodies> ohh steve30
07:41:57 <MrMobodies> I spent TWO YEARS tying to customize this edition
07:42:04 <MrMobodies> of frustration and anger
07:42:19 <MrMobodies> stripping modules and components out of registry
07:42:24 <MrMobodies> like the telemtry
07:42:34 <MrMobodies> and update reinforcement crap
07:42:44 <MrMobodies> now "click here to download update"
07:42:51 <MrMobodies> when click to install update, it can't
07:43:05 <MrMobodies> I mean the ones that
07:43:08 <MrMobodies> need to restart
07:43:16 <MrMobodies> so on select shutdown
07:43:27 <MrMobodies> "shutdown and install updates, shutdown, restart, etc"
07:43:35 <MrMobodies> with classichell start menu
07:43:39 <MrMobodies> isn't that nice?
07:43:51 <MrMobodies> with the control panel windows metics
07:43:56 <MrMobodies> I made the borders smaller
07:44:01 <MrMobodies> they look bloated
07:44:12 <rust1> I have not tried it, so I can not say, lol
07:44:13 <MrMobodies> they do default when setting stuff in "PC settings"
07:44:32 <MrMobodies> but I put in maintenance folder "Windows metrics" reg file to restore the sizes
07:44:59 <MrMobodies> my disc image has Office 2019, that i also spent time turning the annoying things off
07:45:23 <MrMobodies> "Microsoft tell me what you want me to do" and "share" I managed to hide
07:45:35 <MrMobodies> by create 60 empty tabs to move them to the right
07:45:55 <MrMobodies> so it doesn't distract me now more and it shortens the ribbon so things are easy to get to
07:46:16 <MrMobodies> the only media players i use are, "media classic player" and videolan
07:46:32 <MrMobodies> videolan at an advantage with video control stuff
07:46:42 <rust1> does 10 have the option to make it look like 98 or xp, like 7 had?
07:46:59 <MrMobodies> that is what I am already doing
07:47:07 <MrMobodies> except for the class theme
07:47:19 <MrMobodies> oooh the my LTSB 2016 one did
07:47:27 <MrMobodies> I think I showed you that last year
07:47:31 <MrMobodies> it is unstable though
07:47:36 <MrMobodies> the shell could crash
07:47:41 <rust1> maybe, I don't remember
07:47:45 <MrMobodies> oh
07:48:07 <MrMobodies> I'll sre if I can find some pictures
07:48:18 <MrMobodies> the machine not here at the moment I am doing my workshop up
07:48:20 <MrMobodies> and it is a mess
07:48:25 <MrMobodies> but this one I did my best
07:48:30 <rust1> But I some times used that on 7, but. I no longer use 7, so... and I can not say I have looked for it in 10
07:49:02 <MrMobodies> I'll do some pictures of this one
07:49:07 <MrMobodies> its for a customers
08:00:01 <MrMobodies> Okay
08:00:02 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/SQQPEX0
08:00:03 <EEVBot> [url] Windows 10 LTSC 2019 with profile alternations - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
08:00:20 <MrMobodies> Does that look a bit better than the defaults?
08:01:07 <MrMobodies> when I create a new profile now using a template profile, I don't have to go into registry and manually rename paths using wildcards
08:01:26 <MrMobodies> I don't have to set defaults that could take hours and hours
08:01:47 <MrMobodies> there are a few things I don't like
08:02:12 <MrMobodies> what do you think of the alterations?
08:04:05 <MrMobodies> Steve30, I did a lot more hissing trying to make it in a way I could barely use it.
08:04:09 <rust1> hmm, it is pretty hard to say. I do not remember what it usually looks like, but that (to me) looks pretty close to mine?
08:04:21 <MrMobodies> aaah that's nice
08:04:34 <MrMobodies> so I am not the only one who despises the defaults
08:04:51 <MrMobodies> with horrid "content" and "tile" views
08:05:09 <MrMobodies> and the search defaults where a lot of room is taken up with less details
08:05:13 <rust1> I am not sure, as I am not as "sensitive" to this stuff, as you are, but... let me see if I can take a few pics
08:05:30 <MrMobodies> when I look for things I prefer "list view"
08:05:42 <MrMobodies> so I can identify and get to things quick
08:06:03 <MrMobodies> I need to know, when the file was created, when it was modified, exactly where it is "PATH"
08:06:23 <MrMobodies> so those things I depend on when working
08:06:47 <MrMobodies> without classicshell you get BREADCRUMBS
08:07:02 <MrMobodies> in a 64bit open/save dialogue
08:07:13 <MrMobodies> it doesn't work the breadcrumbs show
08:08:16 <MrMobodies> so, "Administrator-documents > but which drive? oh actually that is the same in the folder
08:08:32 <MrMobodies> but it is better than "Libraries -> Documents"
08:08:39 <MrMobodies> tells me bugger all
08:09:00 <MrMobodies> quite a few customers said they lost all their work
08:09:03 <MrMobodies> so they come round
08:09:10 <MrMobodies> and it is right in front of them
08:09:14 <rust1> https://imgur.com/a/QNF8mNv
08:09:14 <EEVBot> [url] Imgur: The magic of the Internet | imgur.com
08:09:20 <MrMobodies> it's just tha they don't know where to look
08:09:35 <MrMobodies> the libraries feature was broken that's all
08:09:44 <MrMobodies> so it wasn't showing any content
08:09:57 <MrMobodies> but if the information was shown in front of them
08:10:02 <MrMobodies> they'd know
08:10:13 <MrMobodies> and the panic there were in
08:10:31 <MrMobodies> all because they did not know that tiny little bit of information or understanding that was hidden
08:10:51 <MrMobodies> so I removed the libraries feature in windows 7 (10 it could be hidden)
08:10:56 <MrMobodies> to prevent that happen again
08:10:57 <rust1> I am not sure, it all looks about the same to me, lol
08:11:15 <MrMobodies> do you see that horrible liberies pane?
08:11:22 <rust1> I dunno?
08:11:26 <MrMobodies> the one with the massive great big thing at the bottom
08:11:33 <MrMobodies> I'll get find it
08:11:37 <rust1> in what?
08:11:44 <MrMobodies> Windows 10
08:11:45 <MrMobodies> and 7
08:12:04 <MrMobodies> it use to be called "Virtual Folders" in Windows Vista
08:12:11 <MrMobodies> it does have a legitatment use
08:12:20 <MrMobodies> but not for the things I do
08:12:37 <MrMobodies> and when it breaks it#s more of a hinderance
08:12:42 <rust1> did you see my scrot?
08:12:53 <MrMobodies> and they ruined the appearance by making the bottom status bar too big
08:17:36 <rust1> https://i.imgur.com/fDbiCPS.png
08:18:20 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/6nKL2E5
08:18:21 <EEVBot> [url] Windows media player recreating library folders - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
08:18:30 <MrMobodies> I am sorry it looks like they rid of the bottom pane
08:18:30 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/6nKL2E5
08:18:31 <EEVBot> [url] Windows media player recreating library folders - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
08:18:36 <MrMobodies> https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/20library.png?trim=1,1&bg-color=000&pad=1,1
08:19:24 <MrMobodies> aaah look at our arrangement
08:20:11 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/GEIHHxI.png
08:20:23 <MrMobodies> I use the classicshell
08:20:30 <rust1> I do too
08:20:30 <MrMobodies> to give me back the basic startment
08:20:45 <MrMobodies> and hide the > in the "location bar"
08:20:51 <MrMobodies> where it says "THIS PC"
08:21:01 <MrMobodies> so it shows the full path at all the times without clicking on it
08:21:11 <MrMobodies> I could get very confused when I am doing file copying
08:21:27 <MrMobodies> especially sometimes where I remembered drive letter being hidden
08:21:41 <MrMobodies> I am between file copying hard drives
08:21:47 <MrMobodies> *between
08:21:53 <MrMobodies> oooh
08:22:01 <MrMobodies> "this pc" at the bottom
08:22:19 <MrMobodies> where it says "workgroup"
08:23:05 <MrMobodies> that is the pane I am talking about present in Windows 7 libraries and "Devices and Printers"
08:23:17 <MrMobodies> 1/4 space taken up
08:24:06 <MrMobodies> as you can see
08:24:07 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/QgcF9Uf.jpg
08:24:15 <rust1> I am so glad i never use windows for anything. I just use my browser and irc client, lol
08:24:16 <MrMobodies> all in list view
08:24:34 <MrMobodies> unfortunately I need to use it in order to help customers
08:24:55 <rust1> I "use" it too, but just to start my browser and irc
08:24:58 <MrMobodies> and then I end up altering their OS so they can they see and understand what htey are doing
08:25:09 <MrMobodies> I mean the views and defaults
08:25:33 <MrMobodies> so Classicsell puts a little icon on the top let of the window
08:25:37 <MrMobodies> which is nice
08:25:42 <MrMobodies> I can double click to close
08:25:48 <MrMobodies> I think you could but not visible
08:26:04 <MrMobodies> "no Apps in APPS" on that classicshell startmenu
08:26:21 <MrMobodies> Shutdown shows a basic dialogue like the one in Windows 2000
08:27:05 <rust1> mine is a bit less fancy there, if I click shut down, it just shuts down, lol
08:27:06 <MrMobodies> oh also on startup I made it
08:27:11 <MrMobodies> so it gives me 5 seconds
08:27:16 <MrMobodies> so I can go into safe mode
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08:30:13 <MrMobodies> Classic shutdown:
08:30:14 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/2ea4vZH.jpg
08:30:19 <MrMobodies> Just the way I want it
08:31:25 <MrMobodies> aah you know the breadcrumb thing
08:31:26 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/4zSWDIW
08:31:27 <EEVBot> [url] Breadcrumb PATH stupidity - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
08:31:43 <MrMobodies> Isn't that stupid?
08:32:06 <MrMobodies> there is plenty of room that is bloated with the breadcrumbs but still enough space to show what drive it is
08:32:19 <MrMobodies> I might have a pendrive in there
08:32:32 <MrMobodies> well actuall the left pane shows it on that occasion
08:32:40 <MrMobodies> but not always there on every occasion
08:33:12 <MrMobodies> and as you can see
08:33:31 <MrMobodies> Windows media player has recreated thos library folders
08:33:48 <MrMobodies> I am going to bother, I am just going to restore the disc image
08:36:46 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/fDGCCQU.jpg
08:37:20 <MrMobodies> if only I can find a way of making show the full url but it is only for that dialogue
08:37:41 <MrMobodies> but do you think it is some improvement though?
08:37:46 <MrMobodies> over the normal defaults?
08:38:04 <MrMobodies> if anybody wants to give that one a go
08:38:19 <rust1> I do not know the defaults, so... no idea...
08:38:20 <MrMobodies> I don't mind, I making a disc image copy
08:38:41 <MrMobodies> but is 17gb in size
08:38:46 <MrMobodies> I that's with the office 2019
08:38:54 <MrMobodies> maybe much smaller uninstalled
08:39:06 <MrMobodies> but i'd have to find a way to remove the leys
08:39:13 <MrMobodies> *keys
08:39:22 <MrMobodies> it shouldn't active but I found it could
08:39:52 <MrMobodies> I normally put the key before connecting it up for the next customer
08:39:56 <MrMobodies> to activate it
08:40:19 <MrMobodies> the defaults are, rust, do a search what do you see?
08:41:09 <rust1> ok, give this to me with tiny spoons. search in the start menu?
08:41:55 <MrMobodies> like this
08:41:56 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/GjV7GJC.png
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08:42:17 <MrMobodies> in that view I set I can see clearly
08:42:45 <MrMobodies> without the appearance getting in the way
08:42:52 <MrMobodies> it's quite straight forward
08:43:00 <MrMobodies> jpg images *.jpg
08:43:05 <MrMobodies> pdf *.pdf
08:43:30 <MrMobodies> oh and hold ctrl down beforing clicking to open result in separate window
08:43:50 <MrMobodies> so it's nice and easy in way that is easy for me
08:44:44 <MrMobodies> but that is how I want it to look with every new profile and stay like that
08:44:57 <MrMobodies> I have to set i once
08:45:10 <MrMobodies> that is in a key called hkey_user
08:45:17 <MrMobodies> MUIbags
08:45:28 <MrMobodies> and the keys above tracks every folder open
08:45:45 <MrMobodies> and a subkey "ALLFOLDERS" under it if it is there
08:45:59 <MrMobodies> copy the last key with window setting
08:46:01 <MrMobodies> into allfolders
08:46:07 <MrMobodies> and next time it preserves it
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08:46:22 <MrMobodies> which is nice but a lot messing about
08:46:42 <MrMobodies> how does your search look?
08:46:49 <MrMobodies> I believe it would be in "content view"
08:47:17 <MrMobodies> and when selection "detail view" only fewer fields and "folder" instead of "path"
08:48:48 <rust1> https://imgur.com/a/ug2evuy
08:48:48 <EEVBot> [url] Imgur: The magic of the Internet | imgur.com
08:49:08 <rust1> heh, I did a search for search, lol
08:49:30 <MrMobodies> lot a better though
08:49:39 <MrMobodies> than that wretched "content view"
08:49:57 <MrMobodies> oohh nice
08:50:10 <MrMobodies> I see you hid the libraries thing too
08:50:18 <MrMobodies> The "Quick Access" couldn't be hidden
08:50:35 <MrMobodies> so like the "Libraries" in windows 7 that also couldnt be hidden
08:50:46 <MrMobodies> I manually removed from the registry
08:50:55 <rust1> eh, I never really tried either. i do not care
08:51:05 <MrMobodies> for me it's in the way
08:51:12 <rust1> yep,
08:51:14 <MrMobodies> if I can hide it, move it down fine
08:51:24 <MrMobodies> they maybe useful for certain things
08:51:31 <MrMobodies> but now stuck in the way all the time
08:51:33 <MrMobodies> for me
08:51:54 <rust1> I "never" use almost everything windows come with, so, meh
08:52:10 <MrMobodies> oooh notice
08:53:29 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/BbrqL4u.png
08:53:34 <MrMobodies> that thing at the botton
08:53:44 <rust1> oh
08:53:47 <MrMobodies> I think that is the new status bar
08:54:10 <MrMobodies> oh not it's "details pane"
08:55:04 <rust1> I can right click that, and select smaller, but that does not do very much
08:55:11 * Halcyon prods electrohead
08:55:22 <MrMobodies> I suppose when I work with it all the time could be the sensitivity
08:56:24 <MrMobodies> but if when my image is complete, all hardware removed, license keys, and user data history
08:57:00 <MrMobodies> you can try my copy whoever is confident enough
08:57:05 <MrMobodies> whatever confidence is left
08:57:24 <MrMobodies> but every step of the way I feel everything is working against me
08:57:27 <rust1> Hmm, I can probably dig out some machine to try it on
08:57:40 <MrMobodies> like what what happened just now with Windows media player default stuff out of it's remot
08:57:43 <MrMobodies> ooh
08:58:01 <MrMobodies> What I do I'd make to versions
08:58:07 <MrMobodies> one with office and one without
08:58:10 <MrMobodies> so it reduces the size
08:58:16 <rust1> yes, that is an idea
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08:58:29 <MrMobodies> I get the keys from Softkeys
08:58:40 <steve30> hey Halcyon
08:58:41 <MrMobodies> for friends I buy for it for for them free
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08:58:48 <MrMobodies> because there is no guarantee
08:59:02 <MrMobodies> that that volume licensor is going to short change in future
08:59:14 <MrMobodies> that's the only risk
08:59:30 <MrMobodies> so I might gift a few who can't afford it
08:59:47 <MrMobodies> I think sometimes it can go between £5 to £15
08:59:51 <MrMobodies> with that seller
09:00:12 <rust1> well, I am going back inside. time for lunch.
09:00:29 <MrMobodies> for argument sake, I am considering of buying you key if you are happy
09:00:35 <MrMobodies> then you can go and spread the wrod
09:00:37 <MrMobodies> *word
09:01:24 <MrMobodies> if someone was to give me a copy of windows 10 Home or Pro, I'd bin out
09:01:28 <MrMobodies> that's how I feel about it
09:02:50 <MrMobodies> RustCollector, I'd recommend a solid state drive of at least 200mbs
09:02:59 <MrMobodies> and Macrium disc imager free to extract
09:03:02 <MrMobodies> what I could do
09:03:16 <MrMobodies> I could send you an 128gb X300 in the post preloaded with it
09:03:53 <MrMobodies> don't connect to broadband but once you get it working I'll order that key
09:04:01 <MrMobodies> and once in then you can connect it up
09:04:14 <MrMobodies> sounds like a good plan for when it is finished
09:05:52 <rust_collector> I think I have an ssd somewhere. can I use the key for pro on that?
09:06:10 <MrMobodies> nope it is LTSC
09:06:25 <MrMobodies> Softkeys.uk sell them
09:06:37 <rust_collector> ok, I am not very familiar with this stuff. I will look that up
09:06:44 <MrMobodies> I'll order you one when the time comes
09:07:11 <MrMobodies> the reason I'll order it because if the seller cancels your key
09:07:17 <MrMobodies> then you are not going to blame me
09:07:28 <rust_collector> ltsc is enterprise?, just a long term version?
09:07:35 <MrMobodies> https://softkeys.uk/collections/windows/products/windows-10-home-product-key-32-64-bit-retail-version-2
09:07:36 <EEVBot> [url] Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019 Product Key License Digital - Instant | softkeys.uk
09:07:44 <MrMobodies> ignore the URL it says home but is LTSC
09:07:56 <MrMobodies> it is
09:08:28 <rust_collector> right, I will go have a look, and see if I don't have an enterprise key somewhere, but not today
09:08:47 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/8xdIR8N.png
09:09:02 <MrMobodies> Classic shell "Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019"
09:09:02 <rust_collector> that is, if a regular enterprise key is ok for this?
09:09:11 <MrMobodies> I am not sure
09:09:23 <MrMobodies> they are different thought
09:09:30 <MrMobodies> normal enterprise is "current channel"
09:09:32 <MrMobodies> as a service
09:09:43 <MrMobodies> ltsc is different because the feature set is suppose to stay the same
09:09:50 <MrMobodies> like with Windows7 and prior to that
09:10:04 <MrMobodies> and they just maintain and or add features and support later when desired
09:10:21 <MrMobodies> now the build number is going to be the same
09:10:36 <rust_collector> well, we will see.
09:10:53 <rust_collector> time for lunch, it is 1.10 here
09:11:10 <MrMobodies> blob:https://imgur.com/619cb584-01fe-4f39-851a-4eb60de7eef0
09:11:14 <MrMobodies> ooh
09:11:30 <MrMobodies> Version 1809 build 17763.107
09:11:35 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/uZU8qn2.png
09:12:19 <rust_collector> and, I should "warn" you, it is not worth sending stuff to me, as I am a total idiot when it comes to windows. but it it will start and run offline, I would be happy to install and have a look at it
09:12:48 <rust_collector> but, I will have a look at what keys I have here, I might find one
09:17:35 * electrohead prods Halcyon
09:18:37 <Ampera> https://i.imgur.com/3kn8XtM.png
09:18:39 <Ampera> new server box
09:18:47 <Ampera> my old servers were costing me too much to run
09:18:56 <Ampera> this should take maybe 1/5th the power at idle
09:19:22 <rust_collector> I do not see any boxes. well, except the cpu comes in one
09:19:23 <electrohead> oooo
09:19:25 <electrohead> sexy
09:26:22 <MrMobodies> Rustcollector okay, when I am finished with finalizing it I'll send you it. It should be very easy to use with all the alterations
09:26:52 <MrMobodies> next month solar panels are coming
09:27:04 <MrMobodies> so that I means I could start watching television normally
09:27:07 <Ampera> hello MrMobodies how are you doing
09:27:37 <MrMobodies> okay I am preparing my copy of windows 10 ltsc my final copy
09:27:40 <MrMobodies> and automated
09:27:46 <MrMobodies> for customers
09:27:56 <MrMobodies> it took me about 3 days so far
09:28:27 <MrMobodies> I had to put the wildcards back in as mant programs in the user profiles don't seem to use them
09:28:56 <MrMobodies> when a new profile it created only takes about 30 seconds
09:29:06 <MrMobodies> not 5 minutes and a silly animation
09:29:18 <MrMobodies> and it look exactly the way I want it
09:29:30 <Ampera> I'm excited to be building a new PC
09:29:33 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/SQQPEX0
09:29:34 <EEVBot> [url] Windows 10 LTSC 2019 with profile alternations - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
09:29:38 <Ampera> I haven't built one in a couple years
09:29:42 <MrMobodies> I know the excitement
09:29:46 <MrMobodies> back in 2007
09:29:47 <Ampera> last two machines I've bought were OEM
09:29:51 <MrMobodies> my biggest excitement
09:30:13 <MrMobodies> 8 SCsi 320gb 32gb DRIVES
09:30:17 <MrMobodies> oops caps
09:30:34 <MrMobodies> one megaraid enterprise controller
09:30:47 <MrMobodies> dual xeon 3ghz and 8gb ram
09:30:58 <MrMobodies> and a large coolermaster stacker case
09:31:03 <MrMobodies> which I still have
09:31:29 <MrMobodies> when I get them in the case from OEMS
09:31:35 <MrMobodies> I don't find it as fun
09:31:40 <MrMobodies> but at least I know it is going to work
09:32:10 <MrMobodies> I'm going to send RustCollect a copy of that to see if he liked it
09:32:44 <MrMobodies> and if he does I'll buy him a key
09:38:41 <rust_collector> naaah, don't buy me a key. I am not windowsy enough. I will give it a try, but I really do not use windows for anything
09:39:18 <MrMobodies> I am not surprised with the way it turned out to be
09:39:33 <MrMobodies> you can see why I make all those changes
09:40:03 <MrMobodies> I know they are little things
09:40:15 <MrMobodies> but I believe the little things make up the big things
09:40:51 <MrMobodies> if I am iniundated by garbage and hinderance in the way then that could delay and hinder the bigs things
09:42:12 <MrMobodies> oh and the history is also cleared
09:42:21 <MrMobodies> there is no history well not much
09:42:30 <MrMobodies> because I could be working on some many things
09:42:40 <MrMobodies> I don't need and want them showing up
09:51:06 * Halcyon hugs Ampera
09:51:12 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
09:51:17 <Ampera> did you see my new order of toys?
09:51:22 <Halcyon> I did not
09:51:30 <Ampera> https://i.imgur.com/3kn8XtM.png
09:51:40 <Ampera> new server box
09:51:52 <Halcyon> Oh neat
09:52:02 <Ampera> my current servers are costing too much to run
09:52:09 <Ampera> so I'm making the smart decision to invest in cheaper gear
09:52:17 <Halcyon> I thought electricity was cheap?
09:52:31 <Ampera> you also thought gas was cheap
09:52:33 <Ampera> think again, thot
09:52:46 <Ampera> electricity is cheap-er
09:52:52 <Ampera> it's still not free
09:53:08 <Halcyon> I was just saying to electrohead this morning, your petrol is more expensive than ours at the moment, which is upside down
09:53:15 <Ampera> 42.6kWh/day is almost 300 USD per month
09:53:28 <Halcyon> OUCH!\
09:53:31 <Ampera> ours is around 1.10USD/liter
09:54:01 <Ampera> this all being said, we don't have rolling blackouts and conserve energy warnings like california and texas
09:54:07 <Ampera> so we can actually enjoy having electricity
09:54:10 <Halcyon> Heh fair
09:55:01 <MrMobodies> 42KW a DAY!
09:55:17 <MrMobodies> last yea before december
09:55:35 <Ampera> about half of that is aircon
09:55:35 <MrMobodies> about under 2kwh
09:55:40 <MrMobodies> aaaah
09:55:42 <Ampera> the other half is servers
09:55:47 <MrMobodies> that's a point much hotter over there
09:55:53 <Ampera> no actually
09:55:57 <MrMobodies> need to keep those servers cool
09:55:59 <Ampera> we don't get 104F over here :P
09:56:34 <MrMobodies> well get about 30c in the summer but soon 40c is going to be become normal
09:56:40 <electrohead> it hit like 105 F the one day, last week
09:56:47 <electrohead> was fucking hot as balls out there
09:56:50 <MrMobodies> so there will be a case for air conditioners and solar panels to fund it un the UK
09:57:04 <MrMobodies> for those who have that sort of investment money
09:57:24 <Ampera> The good news is this is an upgrade anyways
09:57:28 <MrMobodies> but I believe there maybe incentives soon if the economy picks up
09:57:32 <Ampera> even though I have a fraction of the cores, I still have like twice the performance
09:57:33 * electrohead hugs Ampera
09:57:39 <Ampera> and I have hopes that the E cores are gonna be good for efficiency
09:57:50 <MrMobodies> yes, that is how I felt before Christmas
09:57:51 <rust_collector> if it comes to the point that people "need" air conditioning, they will tax it, a lot
09:58:15 <MrMobodies> switching a lot of my things off and not using my lovelt Alteon Acenic networks cards, 4 I puled out
09:58:32 <MrMobodies> I notice a drop in performance with the Pfsense
09:58:42 <MrMobodies> using Intel PT GB
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09:58:51 <MrMobodies> quite a saddening moment
09:59:10 <MrMobodies> and high usage with things like youtube
09:59:21 <MrMobodies> when the Alteons don't seem to take up much cpu time
09:59:31 <MrMobodies> and that speedtest
09:59:48 <MrMobodies> but then I switched from a quad core Xeon
09:59:53 <MrMobodies> 2.5ghz
10:00:07 <rust_collector> hmm, speedtest.
10:00:08 <MrMobodies> to a lousy duo core 2.3 ghz clock down to 1.8
10:00:30 <MrMobodies> and with the hex port and everything going 50 to 80% constant cou tume
10:01:01 <MrMobodies> but I got an I7 down the pub and found some newer Intel stuff don't seem to bog it down
10:01:09 <MrMobodies> I mean network controllers
10:01:34 <MrMobodies> I think one of them dual ports I got,
10:02:12 <MrMobodies> Silicom 6 port https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165532784247
10:02:13 <EEVBot> [url] Silicom PE2G6I35-CX Six-Port Copper Gigabit Ethernet PCI-e Server Adapter | eBay | www.ebay.co.uk
10:02:36 <rust_collector> have any of you had issues with youtube not starting videos, since... oh, I think thursday? some times they start, some times, they just keep "loading"
10:02:42 <MrMobodies> Intel i350AM4 and Intel i350AM2 controllers
10:02:44 <Ampera> rust_collector, yes
10:02:45 <Ampera> I have
10:02:51 <MrMobodies> ooh
10:02:52 <Ampera> it's like the player just breaks itself
10:02:57 <MrMobodies> did you see the spinners?
10:02:58 <Ampera> I F5 a few times and it unbreaks itself
10:03:04 <Ampera> MrMobodies, the detroit ones?
10:03:13 <MrMobodies> the one on the youtube player
10:03:20 <rust_collector> yes, it tends to start after some tries
10:03:23 <MrMobodies> the white thing that spins around
10:03:30 <rust_collector> yep
10:03:38 <MrMobodies> I don't why that use to really irritate me in 2018
10:03:41 <MrMobodies> and I hid it
10:04:02 <MrMobodies> I remember before that it said loading on the bottom left, I can't remember but when that came on
10:04:32 <rust_collector> now I ran a speedtest, just because you mentioned it, and my speeds are also lower than usual?
10:04:59 <rust_collector> I guess someone hacked me again.
10:05:01 <MrMobodies> ooh can't fnd it
10:05:02 <MrMobodies> https://pastebin.com/sCrFH1Rc
10:05:03 <EEVBot> [url] Web UI annoyances Suggestions/page dimming overlays/spinners/animated skeleton placeholder blocklist - Pastebin.com | pastebin.com
10:05:07 <MrMobodies> it's in there somewhere
10:05:33 * electrohead logs out of rust_collector's computer
10:05:42 <MrMobodies> youtube-nocookie.com##.ytp-spinner
10:05:48 <MrMobodies> oops
10:06:00 <MrMobodies> Youtube.com##.ytp-spinner
10:06:00 <rust_collector> HAH! good luck electrohead you might get in, but you can never leave
10:06:07 <electrohead> lol
10:06:11 <MrMobodies> to hid the spinner thing
10:06:27 <MrMobodies> Imagine me wriggling my finger in your face, woudn't that annoy you?
10:06:32 <MrMobodies> I find it the same thing
10:06:37 <MrMobodies> as that spinner
10:06:49 <MrMobodies> and the play and pause thign that flases un the middle
10:07:00 <MrMobodies> I do a lot of pausing and seeking you see
10:07:16 <rust_collector> well, I am ok with the spinner, as long as it shows me that it is doing something. But when it is not really doing something, it is just annoying
10:07:34 <MrMobodies> I have had those on Patreon
10:07:35 <electrohead> I use mpv to play all media, so no idea about the website issue
10:07:41 <MrMobodies> do absolutey nothing when it hanged
10:07:45 <MrMobodies> it is a fake loading spinner
10:07:59 <MrMobodies> but if it did't go around and around and around
10:08:02 <MrMobodies> and went round ince
10:08:07 <MrMobodies> with a loading percent
10:08:14 <MrMobodies> that would be nicer for ne
10:08:30 <MrMobodies> less visually irritating and it tells me the real loading progress
10:08:56 <rust_collector> well, I am ok with the spinner, as long as it shows me that it is doing something. But when it is not really doing something, it is just annoying
10:09:04 <MrMobodies> than seeing what is like somethign that wriggles excessively and appears a lot
10:09:10 <rust_collector> heh, oops
10:10:11 <rust_collector> I wonder if I should complain to my isp a bit. my speeds are lower than usual
10:10:13 <MrMobodies> joke: Preloader spnner -> transitional overlay -> Loader -> Spinner
10:10:20 <MrMobodies> is it
10:10:24 <MrMobodies> ADSL?
10:10:31 <MrMobodies> or fttp
10:10:49 <rust_collector> it is some internet, that comes in strands of glass, they say
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10:11:15 <MrMobodies> fttp
10:11:28 <MrMobodies> no copper inbetween
10:12:03 <rust_collector> I usually get 48x down, and 503 up, but now it is 472 and 383.82
10:12:10 <rust_collector> no copper
10:12:45 <MrMobodies> about 5 times more than one vdsl line I have
10:12:58 <MrMobodies> oh no 5 times more put together
10:13:07 * Ampera launches heavy artillery, destroying every garden gnome in a 10 mile radius
10:13:17 <Ampera> FUCK the gnomes
10:13:19 <MrMobodies> Joke: It should be me complaining not you
10:13:19 <Ampera> they can get FUCKED
10:13:38 <rust_collector> yes, you should. and they can, and.. uhm
10:13:42 <rust_collector> yes
10:13:45 <MrMobodies> They are beating the drum on FTTP and it's still isn't in many places
10:14:55 <MrMobodies> watch out for the little elf's
10:15:02 <MrMobodies> they might trip you up
10:15:07 <MrMobodies> on the way to the artillery
10:15:16 <rust_collector> I have been pretty happy with this. they even have customer service that does something, when I call them
10:15:39 <rust_collector> seems unusual, lol
10:16:04 <MrMobodies> My ISP has customers services that are very quick and effective
10:16:13 <MrMobodies> the problems it that behind the scenes
10:16:26 <MrMobodies> there are some greedy people wandering around
10:16:41 <MrMobodies> adding things to the bill that I didn't agree to
10:17:02 <MrMobodies> and those nice sounding people become piggy in middle.
10:17:09 <MrMobodies> and then I have play by the contract
10:17:20 <MrMobodies> what I can do to leave
10:17:27 <MrMobodies> sometimes they back down
10:27:37 <rust_collector> time to clean the desk, I think.
10:28:30 <rust_collector> all the blood is starting to look like someone smeared shit all over it.
10:31:03 <rust_collector> heh, i miss the old days, where we got much higher quality virgins to sacrify
10:32:08 <steve30> I've finally got round to writing to the council regarding the government's Council Tax Rebates, which I am still yet to see a penny of, despite the local paper saying that they have all been paid.
10:33:10 <rust_collector> good
10:33:27 <rust_collector> hmm, do you have council-less areas there?
10:38:49 <Not_Something\> steve30, nothing like writing your MP to get things happening, huh?
10:38:55 Nick: Not_Something\ is now known as Nothing\
10:39:16 <Nothing\> well i guess council isn't quite your MP but still
10:39:30 <rust_collector> is Nothing\ done making brownies for mom yet?
10:39:38 <Nothing\> apparently it's the typical British thing to do, but we do it all the time here.
10:39:53 <Nothing\> lol that'd probably not be good for her rust_collector
10:39:56 <Nothing\> but i get what you're saying
10:39:57 <rust_collector> arrgh!
10:39:58 <Nothing\> hehe
10:40:21 <Nothing\> plus i don't think she'd want the brownies i'm bakin right now
10:40:28 <Nothing\> and i don't mean because they're full of pot
10:40:35 <rust_collector> not sure if it is her, or your cooking that is the problem, lol
10:40:37 <Nothing\> (it's a poo joke)
10:40:57 <Nothing\> both of us are diabetic lol
10:41:07 <rust_collector> that is not allowed
10:41:11 <rust_collector> stop that
10:41:13 <Nothing\> i mean we can have sweets but, not an entire batch of brownies between both of us
10:42:05 <Nothing\> lately i've taken up a campaign of throwing out all of the stale candies from past easters and christmases etc that i would normally never eat if not for the feeling of obligation of not wanting to waste food
10:42:20 <Nothing\> but i figure it's not worth sacrificing my health for that. Kind of defeats the purpose.
10:42:29 <Nothing\> plus i've lost many fillings to stale candies.
10:42:33 <rust_collector> well, you have to make her something tomorrow. it is the law, or something
10:42:51 <Nothing\> i would but she doesn't like being cooked for
10:42:56 <Nothing\> maybe i'll see what i can do
10:42:57 <rust_collector> meh, if you are not supposed to have them, just don't have them
10:43:01 <Nothing\> even if it's just some frozen wings
10:43:12 <Nothing\> save her having to make supper for herself for a change
10:43:14 <rust_collector> you can thaw some wings for her, lol
10:43:24 <Nothing\> after decades of making food for other people
10:43:42 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
10:43:56 <Nothing\> she's the sorta person where she almost won't even make supper for herself unless she knows i'll eat some too. She feels selfish if she makes something just for herself.
10:44:23 <Nothing\> I've helped her get better though since I got sick though because I can't eat supper period, so she's forced to make meals for herself heh.
10:44:44 <rust_collector> If the wife does not want anything, I usually do not bother making anything either. It is boring making proper food for just me
10:45:05 <Nothing\> i hate cooking
10:45:13 <Nothing\> and the cleaning afterwards
10:45:30 <rust_collector> I sort of like cooking, but cooking for one is not really fun
10:45:55 <Nothing\> everything's better when you share it with someone you love
10:46:08 <rust_collector> yeah, or even just the wife
10:46:17 <Nothing\> (especially if they enjoy it too)
10:46:23 <rust_collector> or maybe a dog
10:46:26 <Nothing\> lol rust_collector
10:46:58 <Nothing\> could be your time traveling best friend from the past who you get to amaze with every day things
10:47:07 <Nothing\> (imaginary friend)
10:47:08 <Nothing\> lol
10:47:16 <Nothing\> freudian slip much
10:47:20 <rust_collector> yes, he is pretty cool too
10:48:08 <steve30> rust_collector, everywhere here is covered by some kind of council
10:48:17 <rust_collector> ok.
10:48:23 <Nothing\> lol i found a channel on youtube where they show indian villagers modern technology and stuff and I always said it was like watching people from the past time travel to the future and seeing what it's like
10:48:38 <Nothing\> in reality i question whether they're really isolated villagers
10:48:46 <Nothing\> the whole thing's probably a scam
10:49:21 <rust_collector> they are not isolated as such, they are just not in the same world as you are
10:50:09 <Nothing\> it would be so easy to fake, and cheaper than going to isolated indian villages and trying to find some people who are willing to travel with you to your studio to shoot these videos every day instead of doing their subsistance farming or whatever it is they do to survive.
10:50:25 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i dunno, they didn't even know we landed on the moon.
10:50:28 <Nothing\> supposedly
10:50:51 <rust_collector> well... that is not important, for most people, really
10:50:54 <Nothing\> like these people were made out to be like some semi-uncontacted tribe
10:51:03 <Nothing\> no, it wasn't for them that's for sure
10:51:11 <Nothing\> but the one guy definitely thought about such things.
10:51:47 <Nothing\> he came off as more thoughtful than the others. Like when they were shown siri, he started asking her for advice on growing crops and practical things like that once he figured out it wasn't a person he was talking to.
10:52:08 <rust_collector> there is a big-ish guy, wearing a funny hat, and a curtain, he is pretty cool, and the somewhat older guy, in a suit. he knows a bit of the world
10:52:19 <Nothing\> whereas the other 2 guys just got shy because they don't talk to women so well
10:52:41 <Nothing\> he wears a hat and curtains?
10:53:27 <Nothing\> ooh this laxative's turning my bowels into a bubbling cauldron of fermentation
10:53:55 <rust_collector> https://youtu.be/O-qlUBLKt_4?t=31 that guy. the one before him, some times has a suit, I think
10:53:56 <EEVBot> [url] Tribal People React to Johnny Cash Hurt - YouTube | youtu.be
10:53:58 <Nothing\> not painful just a lot of gurgle gurgle and what i refer to as "internal flatulence"
10:54:13 <Nothing\> rust_collector, oh yeah that's the channel
10:54:22 <Nothing\> i forgot it's different people sometimes
10:55:19 <Nothing\> usually they have the old guy, babu, the young guy who looks about 15, and another guy who yeha does wear a little hat almost like a shriner's cap made of some sort of fur. I dunno.
10:55:49 <Nothing\> ah yeah i've never seen the big guy before
10:56:15 <Nothing\> huh yeah i've never seen any of these
10:56:24 <Nothing\> i wonder if this even IS the same channel or just a rip-off.
10:56:40 <Nothing\> it doesn't feel like the same, even the the format and idea is identical
11:02:44 <rust_collector> eh, who knows, there could be 200 channels like that
11:06:35 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
11:06:40 <Ampera> how are you doing fren?
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11:09:50 * Ampera kisses arch
11:17:43 <steve30> I'm just writing a letter to the paper
11:21:29 <steve30> People are once again calling for gays to be segregated into their own little space in the city centre, while at the same time, calling for a Gay Pride event, because apparently we haven't had one this year, even though I went to it last week.
11:45:50 * T3sl4 tongues Ampera
11:51:51 <electrohead> https://gfycat.com/thornyclassiciberianemeraldlizard
11:51:51 <EEVBot> [url] Cute GIF by The Guvnor | Gfycat | gfycat.com
11:53:02 * T3sl4 snuggles electrohead
11:54:26 * steve30 ponders coffee
11:55:04 * electrohead gets snuggled
12:01:28 <electrohead> lmfao - https://old.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/w7w4i2/quick_nap_at_the_bar/
12:01:31 <EEVBot> [reddit] Quick nap at the bar (https://v.redd.it/6fj742u2ssd91) to r/Unexpected | 37194 points (89.0%) | 1393 comments | Posted by Toomad316 | Created at 2022-07-25 - 14:18:23EDT
12:15:19 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
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12:49:25 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://imgur.com/gallery/ciaUhaS
12:49:26 <EEVBot> [url] Is Birb. - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
12:51:46 <Halcyon> Awww cute
12:52:02 <Halcyon> It's like a flying peach
12:52:36 * electrohead tosses a peach at Halcyon
12:52:43 <Halcyon> Aww hello :)
12:52:46 <Halcyon> How did you sleep?
12:52:59 <electrohead> haven't slept yet, heh
12:53:05 <Halcyon> Hah what have you been doing/
12:53:05 <electrohead> just laying here watching videos
12:53:11 <Halcyon> Hahah
13:19:18 <MrMobodies> Hello
13:19:35 <MrMobodies> Just feeling exhuasted after spending many hours
13:19:52 <MrMobodies> I have fixed the search issue on new profiles
13:20:02 <MrMobodies> create new profile from the template
13:20:28 <MrMobodies> go into registry, find where the bags are or key "allfolders"
13:20:35 <MrMobodies> expand the ones above
13:20:50 <MrMobodies> go into user profile, do a search and see it come up wrongly
13:21:01 <MrMobodies> exit rerun registey editor
13:21:10 <MrMobodies> and see the next number up in the folder bags
13:21:25 <MrMobodies> add it to the allfolder\shell key
13:22:13 <MrMobodies> delete/overwrite the default folders from the template, mount the ntuser.dat, apply registry to replace known physical paths with wildcards
13:22:21 <MrMobodies> unmount create new profile and it works
13:22:29 <MrMobodies> isn't that nice?
13:22:34 <MrMobodies> last issue fixed
13:23:03 <MrMobodies> I am doing my final disc image for the customer
13:23:53 <MrMobodies> and then I am going copy it to another sdd, remove accounts, uninstall drivers and turn it into something I can copy over with little work
13:24:04 <MrMobodies> oh and remove the keys
13:24:45 <MrMobodies> No more profile hell
13:25:11 <MrMobodies> when I create account like for like it's all there set
13:25:25 <MrMobodies> the only work is finding the drivers
13:27:46 <MrMobodies> I was suppose to all that last year but I was already tired with removing crap from the operating system
13:28:08 <MrMobodies> it wasn't worth doing until I was satisfied it was all gone
13:28:44 <MrMobodies> It an Lenovo Idealpad 330
13:29:14 <MrMobodies> the person who brought it to me which his owned
13:29:26 <MrMobodies> said he paid over £600 in 2018
13:29:45 <MrMobodies> and he asked "is it a pile of sh*t" I said you can tell customers that
13:30:13 <MrMobodies> if I did that they'd walk out the door
13:30:18 <MrMobodies> instead I like to explain in detail
13:31:23 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/HEV9ovp.jpg
13:31:42 <MrMobodies> This one has a known overheating issue
13:31:51 <MrMobodies> I ripped out some of the dustgrills
13:32:04 <MrMobodies> and put some feet underneath to allow more airflow
13:32:31 <MrMobodies> works lovelly known when it had the mechanical hard drive and that windows 10 home
13:32:36 <MrMobodies> unusable
14:07:30 <MrMobodies> Rustcollector, I think I have a an idea, I could try and make a bootable macrium reflect pendrive
14:07:51 <MrMobodies> find a tool to compress it
14:08:04 <MrMobodies> arrange some thing for you to download it
14:08:17 <MrMobodies> then you use the tool to extract to an empty pendrive
14:08:39 <MrMobodies> it will boot up with macrium free and select image and extract to your ssd
14:09:08 <MrMobodies> Next is to create two versions
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14:49:11 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Zsjoelfir
14:49:24 * Halcyon hugs Zsjoelfir
14:49:49 * Zsjoelfir gives Halcyon a very wet hug back
14:49:58 <Halcyon> You been in the bathroom again? :P
14:50:54 <Zsjoelfir> no. well, yes, but this time successfull and without accidents. but of course I perfectly managed to just start my way to work (on the motorcycle) when it started raining like hell. the moment I arrived it stopped.
14:58:39 <Halcyon> Always the way
14:59:29 <Zsjoelfir> isn't it?
14:59:38 <Zsjoelfir> but still, it was a very pleasant ride. I enjoyed it
15:00:07 <Zsjoelfir> The old BMW handles very well, even on the slippery streets after not having had rain for weeks
15:01:07 <steve30> i want to go out this afternoon but i think i'll be too tired
15:01:26 <Zsjoelfir> naww :(
15:01:29 * Zsjoelfir hugs steve30
15:01:41 * Zsjoelfir hugs steve30 again for good measure and asks Halcyon to join
15:01:53 <Halcyon> YAY
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15:07:58 <Zsjoelfir> uuuh, a norwegian!
15:34:57 <Halcyon> \o/
15:35:25 <Zsjoelfir> yes! look at that nice, promising "bb.online.NO"!
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15:46:28 <Zsjoelfir> Halcyon, what are you up to? tell me, I want to be a little bit distracted to not hyperfocus on my work right now
15:47:07 <Halcyon> Currently in a MS Teams meeting, just listening.... Also waiting for my stationary order to arrive. I bought a new shredder
16:01:01 <Zsjoelfir> aah, nice. I ordered a pack of 300g/m³ paper yesterday.
16:01:26 <Halcyon> That's basically cardboard isn't it?
16:01:35 <Zsjoelfir> yep
16:29:44 <Halcyon> Oooh I got my e-ink tablet today
16:35:47 <steve30> is it good?
16:37:48 <Halcyon> Yeh actually, it's not bad
16:38:22 <Halcyon> A few little "chinglish" features, but overall it feels quite refined. Very responsive to write on, probably one of the fastest e-ink displays I've used
16:41:09 <Halcyon> Feature-wise it's a little limited with this current software release, but there are improvements on the roadmap. For example, you can only sync with one calendar. Personally I'd like it to sync with both my Google Workspace and work Microsoft calendars on the one device
16:42:06 <steve30> On the subject of writing, i should probably get a new fountain pen sometime
16:44:45 <Halcyon> I like pens
16:45:35 <steve30> Is that pens as in the writing implement, or pens as in you missed out the letter 'i'?
16:45:55 <Halcyon> Both :P
16:46:18 <steve30> I wonder if I can write on Halcyon's new tablet with a penis
16:46:44 <Halcyon> Nah, needs to be an EMR pen
16:46:56 <Halcyon> It's a Wacom display
16:58:34 * Halcyon pokes steve30 with his pen
16:58:54 <steve30> mmm, ink
17:03:46 <Halcyon> Oooh new Big Clive video
17:11:17 <T3sl4> oh hey, i recognized characteristics of something and looked it up pretty easily https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melilotus_albus
17:11:18 <EEVBot> [wikipedia] Melilotus albus | "Melilotus albus, known as honey clover, white melilot (UK), Bokhara clover (Australia), white sweetclover (USA), and sweet clover, is a nitrogen-fixing legume in the family Fabaceae. Melilotus albus is considered a valuable honey plant and source of nectar and is often grown for forage. Its characteristic sweet odor, intensified by drying, is derived from coumarin.Melilotus albus is of Eurasian origin but can now be found […]"
17:11:57 <Halcyon> Mmmm bees
17:12:05 <Halcyon> I like bees as long as they don't buzz around me
17:12:13 * T3sl4 bumbles Halcyon
17:12:17 <Halcyon> Shoo
17:12:36 <Halcyon> Bees, snakes and spiders.... I like them all, just not near me
17:12:41 <Halcyon> Wasps can fuck off
17:13:01 <T3sl4> hm, do they have bumblebees down there?
17:13:07 <T3sl4> looks like no
17:13:50 <Halcyon> We have some ridiculous number of native bee but not the typical bumblebee I don't think
17:14:15 <T3sl4> bumbles are fat and fuzzy and cute and mind their own business
17:14:16 <Halcyon> I think some of the ones around here in the mountainous areas are non-stinging bees
17:14:34 <Halcyon> That being said, I've never been stung by a bee
17:14:42 <Halcyon> I've been stung twice by an asshole wasp
17:15:08 <Halcyon> And both times I was minding my own business, didn't even know I was anywhere near it
17:15:10 <T3sl4> i don't know that i've seen a lot of regular bees around here, probably a few carpenter bees, definitely some holes in trees/trunks by them
17:15:19 <T3sl4> asshole wasps are assholes
17:15:30 <Halcyon> They are
17:15:38 <Halcyon> I sprayed the nest with WD-40 pretty soon after that
17:15:42 <Halcyon> (They don't like that)
17:15:51 <T3sl4> they earned it tho
17:16:28 <Halcyon> I need to plant more bee-attracting plants near my place
17:16:37 <Halcyon> With the bees also comes the nectar birds
17:16:39 <steve30> I got stung by a bee a couple of years ago
17:16:53 <steve30> Or it could have been a wasp. I don't know.
17:17:04 <Halcyon> Bees leave a stinger typically
17:17:11 <Halcyon> Wasps just leave a hole
17:17:20 <T3sl4> surprised i haven't seen much for wasps gathering nectar, there's plenty of mint family things around here
17:17:56 <Halcyon> I haven't seen wasps around here for a while, but any signs of their nest and I'll get rid of it. They have the entire bush to live in, they don't need to come near me
17:18:13 <T3sl4> there's a parkling lot nearby that plants a lot of lambs ear, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/0_Stachys_byzantina_-_Yvoire_%282%29.JPG the flowers smell exactly of pineapple
17:18:24 <steve30> I was on the bike and somehow said insect got trapped under my shirt
17:18:25 <Halcyon> Ooooh
17:18:30 <T3sl4> steve30: ouch
17:19:07 <Halcyon> Hmmmm, it's getting late, I wonder if my stationary order will still arrive today
17:19:09 <steve30> ooh, a furry plant
17:19:21 <T3sl4> there's also a patch of strawberries running wild on that lot, though they didn't grow much this year, low rain or fertilizer i'm guessing
17:20:55 <Halcyon> That reminds me, I should crack out the old DOS SimFarm some day soon
17:21:01 <Halcyon> I used to love that game
17:21:10 * T3sl4 sims Halcyon's ant
17:21:28 <Halcyon> Never played SimAnt
17:22:23 <steve30> i should probably go to bed soon
17:22:48 <Halcyon> You keep odd hours steve30
17:23:09 <T3sl4> hey, that's my job
17:24:00 * steve30 curls up on T3sl4's duvet
17:24:42 * T3sl4 patpats the AC machine
17:28:46 <Halcyon> https://twitter.com/ChickyThoughts/status/1442140683612131332/photo/1
17:28:46 <EEVBot> [Twitter] Chicken Thoughts (@ChickyThoughts): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAODShZVIAss4De.jpg | 564 RTs | 3548 ♥s | Posted: 2021-09-26 - 14:55:07UTC
17:29:40 <steve30> meow
17:30:35 * T3sl4 swats at Halcyon's feathers
17:31:14 <Halcyon> https://twitter.com/ChickyThoughts/status/1373319448233443331/photo/1
17:31:14 <EEVBot> [Twitter] Chicken Thoughts (@ChickyThoughts): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew8CwniW8AEGbN9.jpg | 972 RTs | 5214 ♥s | Posted: 2021-03-20 - 17:04:06UTC
17:31:18 <Halcyon> Bahahah
17:33:13 <T3sl4> now that's vile
17:36:29 <T3sl4> hm, y'know, it's funny that all the patches of, like, raspberry and burdock and etc, they're biennials
17:37:04 <T3sl4> the stems or canes or whatever seem persistent enough that they could be perennial, but in fact they're constantly dying back and germinating
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17:38:49 <T3sl4> which also means eating actually 100% of the raspberries would kill the patch
17:39:42 <T3sl4> seems like there's enough dried out (uneaten) or duff ones (late flowers, poorly pollinated?) that they're fine though :P
17:39:51 <T3sl4> or, no one eats burdock, so it's fine :P
17:44:39 <Zsjoelfir> what even is burdock?
17:47:19 <T3sl4> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctium_lappa you've probably seen it around
17:47:19 <EEVBot> [wikipedia] Arctium lappa | "Arctium lappa, commonly called greater burdock, gobō (牛蒡/ゴボウ), edible burdock, lappa, beggar's buttons, thorny burr, or happy major is a Eurasian species of plants in the family Asteraceae, cultivated in gardens for its root used as a vegetable. It has become an invasive weed of high-nitrogen soils in North America, Australia, and other regions."
17:47:59 <K> hello through hole packages
17:48:05 <T3sl4> tho i think the kind around here is usually the "minor" version
17:48:12 <T3sl4> hello capacitors
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17:50:32 <Halcyon> Don't they make tea from Burdock
17:50:33 <Halcyon> ?
17:50:41 <Halcyon> Or like a tonic-type beverage?
17:50:59 <T3sl4> ya
17:52:33 <K> https://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/91303/hosta-(tardiana-group)-halcyon/details
17:52:33 <EEVBot> [url] Hosta (Tardiana Group) &s;Halcyon&s; | plantain lily &s;Halcyon&s; Herbaceous Perennial/RHS Gardening | www.rhs.org.uk
17:52:51 <T3sl4> :D
17:52:52 <K> for some reason i know there was a plant with "halcyon" in the name
17:53:01 <K> i knew
17:57:12 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/vTtd2yG
17:57:12 <EEVBot> [url] Armo scritches - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
17:57:42 <Halcyon> You can SEE the fur coming off
17:58:58 * T3sl4 sneezes on Halcyon
17:59:39 * Halcyon rubs his itchy eyes
17:59:52 <T3sl4> armo is a fuzzy bebe
18:07:42 <Zsjoelfir> I have seen that plant T3sl4. its pretty pretty. and big. good to know that is edible
18:23:53 <Zsjoelfir> hm. found a strange part in our product here. a BCR521E6327HTSA1. I didn't even know that existed. It seems pretty superfluous to me
18:25:29 <K> what does "pre-biased" mean here?
18:25:37 <K> is that the strange part?
18:27:04 <Halcyon> Seems like an odd term, even for me
18:28:25 <K> according to the internets, it means it has series resistor for base, and one between base and emitter
18:28:49 <K> 1k for the part above
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18:31:29 <K> not quite sure what those could be used for in Zsjoelfir's hardware though
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18:33:08 <Zsjoelfir> exactly that. its a pretty basic BJT with 2 resistors inside.
18:33:40 <Zsjoelfir> costs 6 times as much as a comparable transistor without resistors in it, and resistors are basically free. I don't get the point.
18:42:51 <K> internal resistors are not even that well matched
18:42:54 <K> wierd.
18:43:53 <electrohead> o/
18:43:59 <K> headelectro
18:44:34 <Halcyon> Morning electrohead
18:44:36 * Halcyon pours a wine
18:45:15 <electrohead> yooo
18:45:19 * electrohead yawns
18:49:33 <Zsjoelfir> exactly that, K
18:50:05 <Zsjoelfir> well. there are substitutes to the thing, so... I don't bother reverse engineering WHY they used that. I just accept that they did and replace it with another one of those weirdos
18:50:08 <Zsjoelfir> also, hi mr head
18:50:15 * electrohead matches K up with a prostitute
18:50:30 <Halcyon> electrohead, you know what I forgot to send you?
18:50:30 <K> nah im good electrohead
18:50:37 <Halcyon> Some fucking coffee from here
18:54:01 <electrohead> K: lol
18:54:20 <electrohead> you just seem like the type of dude, that would love the occasional green stuff around your nose
18:54:40 <Halcyon> Who me? Or K ?
18:54:48 <electrohead> K
18:54:50 <electrohead> lol
18:54:53 <Halcyon> K seems innocent
18:54:55 <K> nah, i dont do drugs
18:55:10 <electrohead> Halcyon: and, oh it's all good, I have plenty of good coffee here
18:55:24 <K> unless you count tea and coffee as a drug
18:55:28 <electrohead> K: was referring to a joke about STD's :p
18:55:39 <K> ugh, goes over my head
18:55:54 <Halcyon> electrohead, is it instant coffee?
18:56:02 <electrohead> eww, fuck no
18:56:07 <K> instant eew
18:56:07 <Halcyon> Good boy
18:56:18 <Halcyon> Instant is not coffee, it's lies
18:56:34 <K> some older folk here like it
18:56:43 <electrohead> if you ever sent me instant coffee, I would sell everything I owned just to fly over there and severe your fiber line
18:56:58 <electrohead> sever*
18:56:58 <Halcyon> Bahaha I was going to send you locally roasted and ground beans dickhead
18:57:03 <Halcyon> As if I would touch instant
18:57:07 <electrohead> lol
18:59:28 <K> electrodick
18:59:56 * electrohead hugs K
19:00:08 <electrohead> zappity zap zap
19:00:19 <Halcyon> I expected you to vibrate
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19:00:39 <electrohead> me personality vibrartes all the time
19:00:43 <electrohead> vibrates*
19:00:45 * Halcyon hugs Kuschelpony
19:00:49 <electrohead> fuck, I can't type today
19:00:57 <Halcyon> Yeh, you are a bit retarded this morning
19:01:01 <Zsjoelfir> thats because of all the vibrariations, electrohead
19:01:06 <Halcyon> Have you had caffeine yet?
19:01:39 <K> cofee-nein
19:02:37 <Kuschelpony> hello you all
19:02:58 <Zsjoelfir> hi you one
19:03:20 <electrohead> not retarded, just fucked in the head a bit today, that's all. experienced some weird ass dreams, woke up in a panic, and I feel just .. off
19:03:53 * electrohead shoves coffee beans up Halcyon's nose, and slaps his chest
19:03:57 <electrohead> bean rockets!
19:06:01 <Halcyon> Hahahah you tool
19:09:59 <electrohead> no you're a tool!
19:10:01 <electrohead> lol
19:11:09 <Halcyon> Hahah
19:11:17 <Halcyon> This redders is going to my head
19:12:22 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDzWbBHspuo
19:12:22 <EEVBot> [url] Cheeky Redders - YouTube | www.youtube.com
19:12:25 <Halcyon> You'd like this guy electrohead
19:12:30 <Halcyon> He does your kind of musics
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19:13:51 <electrohead> I'd totally try that wine
19:14:09 <Halcyon> He does some pretty damn good cooking videos actually
19:14:25 <electrohead> yeah I remember this guy
19:14:43 <electrohead> I wonder if he has a job though, with the hand and neck/head tattoos
19:15:06 <Halcyon> Youtube and writing/music is his fulltime job now
19:15:11 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1kTod15A_E
19:15:12 <EEVBot> [url] The Curried Sausages DEMAND! - YouTube | www.youtube.com
19:15:17 <Halcyon> Good way to learn AU English though :P
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19:20:12 <Kuschelpony> https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/1657720409629-png.304133/
19:20:48 <electrohead> I'd totally try that
19:21:15 <Halcyon> The curried saussos?
19:21:30 <electrohead> yeah
19:21:37 <Halcyon> Yeh they are tasty
19:21:40 <Halcyon> I'd add chilli
19:25:23 <electrohead> and cheese
19:25:24 <electrohead> <3
19:29:22 <Halcyon> Hells yeh
19:29:56 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHccqUhLys8
19:29:57 <EEVBot> [url] New England Lobster Rolls - YouTube | www.youtube.com
19:29:59 <Halcyon> Mmmmm lobster
19:31:22 <K> eew.
19:31:35 <Halcyon> Not big on seafood?
19:31:39 <K> nope
19:31:44 <Halcyon> Fair enough
19:31:56 <K> i'd eat some sushi now and then, but that is not exactly seafood
19:32:11 <Halcyon> I assume sushi without the fish?
19:32:22 <Halcyon> Or sushimi (raw fish)
19:32:36 <K> no, in my book salmon is not a fish
19:32:41 <Halcyon> Hahah
19:32:42 <K> more like sea chicken
19:32:47 <Halcyon> What about tuna?
19:32:55 <K> which, coincidentally is not meat
19:32:59 <K> no tuna thanks
19:33:09 <Halcyon> Sea chicken. Hahahahaha
19:33:14 <Halcyon> Never heard that before
19:33:23 <K> i mean i'd eat it if nothing else is there
19:34:42 <Halcyon> I just make a smoked salmon, cheese and chilli toasted sandwich
19:35:58 <K> i hope you enjoy it
19:36:09 <Halcyon> I am
19:38:41 <electrohead> without the bread, that lobster looks so good
19:42:26 <electrohead> and, I'm going back to bed
19:42:31 * electrohead hugs all the peoples
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19:45:54 <Zsjoelfir> I think I never had Looobster
19:46:08 <Zsjoelfir> (please ornounce it that way, I thought it sounds nice)
19:46:13 <Zsjoelfir> *pronounce
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19:50:45 <MrMobodies> Hello
19:51:13 <MrMobodies> noticed the laptop came with this box that says "USB recovery media" which is nice they are giving means of recovery
19:51:21 <MrMobodies> it doesn't say what's on it but I know
19:51:27 <MrMobodies> Unfortunately it is WINDOWS 10 HOME
19:51:39 <MrMobodies> and I have made a recovery usb with bootabe Macroum Reflect
19:51:50 <MrMobodies> So I thought I'd put a warning on it
19:52:03 <MrMobodies> which is why it was given to me in the first place to sort out
19:52:05 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/YgWabho.jpg
19:53:36 <MrMobodies> "Original Windows 10 Home Recovery (Idealpad 320) Warning: CRAP, BLOATED and SLOW operating system."
19:54:22 <MrMobodies> that was his complaint which is when he brought it in mid 2018 and the last time he used it was in February 2019"
19:54:44 <MrMobodies> apparently he brought a better machine and wanted to throw this one away
19:55:11 <MrMobodies> but he was saddended that cost him £650 when the better one was about half price
19:55:44 <Halcyon> Free USB MrMobodies
19:56:05 <MrMobodies> that's why I am sadenned
19:56:14 <MrMobodies> a perfectly god usb stick WASTED
19:56:46 <Halcyon> Format it and use it for something else
19:56:48 <MrMobodies> but you never know, someone might demand for their HOME 10 and their stupid tiles.
19:57:13 <MrMobodies> it's also a nice rugged metal one
19:57:19 <MrMobodies> compared to the sandisk
19:57:30 <MrMobodies> I think it has 17gb free out of the 32gb
19:57:42 <MrMobodies> and mine compressed is about 17gb
19:57:48 <MrMobodies> without all the crap
19:57:58 <MrMobodies> and it include office 2019
19:58:04 <MrMobodies> and some goodies
19:58:19 <MrMobodies> that stay out of the way when no needed
19:58:46 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/SQQPEX0
19:58:46 <EEVBot> [url] Windows 10 LTSC 2019 with profile alternations - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
19:58:58 <MrMobodies> I am making a copy with no hardware and it's good to go
19:59:21 <MrMobodies> When I make a new profiles they are exactly what you see there
19:59:39 <MrMobodies> without that stupid patronising welcome "we're polishing your pc" introduction screen
19:59:50 <MrMobodies> and it only takes 2 minutes to copy the profile with chrome and vialdi in it
20:00:27 <MrMobodies> but it took me over 4 days of work to make the default profile perfect with the wildcard
20:00:36 <MrMobodies> doesn't remember history
20:00:52 <MrMobodies> telemetry turned off (recent turned off in office too)
20:03:26 <MrMobodies> There's still few a issues
20:03:33 <MrMobodies> Breadcrumb path stupidity:
20:03:34 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/8py4Syo.jpg
20:04:06 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/fDGCCQU.jpg
20:04:14 <MrMobodies> no drive letter
20:04:51 <MrMobodies> Classicshell hook doesn't seem to be able to show full urls with certain dialogues
20:08:24 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
20:12:03 <MrMobodies> Well I am going bed for a while
20:12:10 <MrMobodies> it took me 3 hours to clean out that registry
20:12:22 <MrMobodies> and the remains of the user profiles and stuff
20:12:43 <MrMobodies> it has been installed across many laptops over the past two years
20:33:42 <K> is this what pain looks like?
20:38:14 <Zsjoelfir> yes. lots of it
21:06:49 <Zsjoelfir> so, it is decided
21:07:08 <Zsjoelfir> tomorrows breakfast will be burgers.
21:07:12 <Ampera> BURGERS
21:07:15 <Ampera> BURGERS?
21:07:17 <Ampera> BURGERS!!!
21:07:20 * Ampera burgers Zsjoelfir
21:07:26 * Zsjoelfir is burgersed
21:07:40 * Zsjoelfir gifts Ampera a Looobster
21:07:51 <Ampera> Loob!
21:07:54 <Ampera> Loobster!
21:07:58 <Ampera> LOOOOOOOOBERSTESRS
21:08:13 <Ampera> mainiacs love lobsters.
21:09:37 <K> simmer down yall
21:09:38 Quit: LordGeir ([email protected]) Connection closed
21:09:58 <Ampera> simmer?
21:10:00 <Ampera> SIMMER?
21:10:03 <Ampera> SIMMER!!!!!
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21:10:06 <Ampera> BOIIIIIIL
21:13:19 <Zsjoelfir> ROARING!
21:14:11 <Ampera> WOOOOOO
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21:14:23 * K pulls the plug on Ampera
21:14:44 * Ampera releases all the boil over everyone
21:14:53 * K eats a cookie
21:16:19 <Ampera> nooooo!
21:16:24 <Ampera> that cookie contained my pornhub login!
21:17:20 <K> you log in into pornhub?
21:18:47 <Ampera> not anymore obviously
21:18:49 <Ampera> you ate my login
21:23:35 <K> it was horrible.
21:34:35 <Halcyon> electrohead, you slut
21:34:38 * Halcyon kisses Ampera
21:34:54 * Ampera kisses Halcyon
21:34:57 <Ampera> how are you doing fren?
21:35:00 <Halcyon> \o/
21:35:06 <Halcyon> I'm doing OK, getting tired
21:35:10 <Halcyon> How are you?
21:35:29 <Ampera> trying to wake up
21:35:35 <Halcyon> Have a tea
21:35:39 <Ampera> I am
21:40:42 <Halcyon> Fucking electrohead has gone back to bed hasn't he?
21:40:50 <Halcyon> Just when I need hm
21:40:51 <Halcyon> him
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22:03:34 <jfsimon1981> Hello,
22:03:36 <Ampera> in addition, you may want to ask this question on the forums
22:03:47 <Ampera> because we don't have direct insight on the state of EEVBlog products
22:03:51 <Ampera> we're just a discussion group
22:03:57 <jfsimon1981> I was looking for uSupply PCB or assembled units for sale, though i can only find the schematics
22:04:36 <jfsimon1981> Two questions, are PCB files available, and is a manufactured boards available on store somewhere ?
22:08:01 <K> i dont thing anyone alive here owns/knows much about uSupply
22:08:17 <K> i'd try forum
22:18:25 <Kuschelpony> im sorry to say the same
22:23:43 <jfsimon1981> ok
22:24:23 <Kuschelpony> but anyway, if you have any generic question or want to talk about electronics, physics and the rest of the world, feel welcome here
22:24:54 <jfsimon1981> yes
22:25:14 <jfsimon1981> i'm learning build pcb but also the economics of running a small business
22:25:37 <jfsimon1981> Diving into the electronic design and running a prototype build at the moment.
22:26:11 <jfsimon1981> The lab is 1 year old, still growing. It's electronic lab.
22:26:29 <Kuschelpony> nice
22:27:36 <Kuschelpony> i have occasionally an opportunity to mill pcboards on an LPKF protomat, its an pretty good alternative to etching if you can do with single side plus groundplane
22:30:32 <K> no optical alignment on protomat?
22:30:52 <K> like, for doing the other side too
22:32:07 <K> i am kinda in process of fixing up a 3018, small usb camera, moded flatcam and bcnc to do that with less hassle
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22:32:16 <Kuschelpony> on that old one it was supposed to be mechnaically aligned
22:32:29 <K> albeit not looking to actually mill out the tracks, just scratch the mask and then etch
22:32:37 <Kuschelpony> years before the inexpensive mini cameras came
22:32:41 <K> ah.
22:32:56 <Kuschelpony> its in the WinNT4 era
22:32:57 <K> id guess you could do ok with dowel pins
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22:33:19 <Kuschelpony> thats already included, but for them you have to use a fullsize board with pre-drilled hole
22:33:24 <K> ah.
22:33:52 <K> the pins are fixed and not adjustable eh
22:34:03 <Kuschelpony> if you dont use this, you can mill any leftover patch of a few cm size when
22:34:08 <Kuschelpony> yes
22:34:41 <K> id make a alu plate with threaded dowel pin pattern, 10x10 grid
22:34:55 <K> but eh, that prolly is too much work
22:35:26 <Kuschelpony> i had some minor success with aligning the reference point by eye to drilled holes, but cant really align the board in the angle tu turn both sides paralell to ech other
22:35:39 <Kuschelpony> instead i am milling single sided plus wire bridges
22:35:46 <Kuschelpony> or SMD 0Ohm resistors
22:36:12 <K> at this point in time reason for doing your own pcbs at home is "because i fucking want to, that's why", and not any monetary/delay question
22:36:31 <Kuschelpony> maybe in future years, when i have cleaned up the workshop at home, i might buy a china CNC and add an dremel as spindle
22:37:01 <K> the new sainsmart 3020 looks quite good
22:37:21 <Kuschelpony> oh well it makes a positive time difference when yu have the boiard within two hours, and it is cheaper if you have kilos of leftover PCB material
22:37:36 <Kuschelpony> mh i thought more about a smallsize one in the hope its more precise
22:37:37 <K> albeit more expensive than their 3018 models
22:37:47 <Kuschelpony> do rarely a board larger than 100*80
22:37:59 <Kuschelpony> perhaps never again
22:38:17 <K> can allways do two and stich!
22:40:06 <Kuschelpony> yep
22:40:40 <Kuschelpony> but as i do anything in SMD except very occasional retro projects, its a patchwork of interconnected boards anyway
22:43:38 <Kuschelpony> it makes me worry that we already have summer and i still did not finish any of the last winter projects
22:44:42 <K> welp.
22:44:48 <K> about same here
22:47:49 <Kuschelpony> other parts of life got priority, taking any occassion to go out for the sh... few events i have
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23:32:52 <Kuschelpony> a: what should be wrong on this photo, i see nothing?
23:33:05 <Kuschelpony> b: that you should see a heat shrink tube...
23:46:10 <electrohead> Halcyon: I need you too <3
23:46:13 <electrohead> lol
23:46:18 * electrohead hugs K
23:46:38 <K> wth with all the touching
23:47:04 * K sprays electrohead
23:47:22 <electrohead> that better be anti-fungal spray!
23:47:34 <electrohead> lol
23:47:37 <electrohead> howdy
23:48:06 <K> it is macroflex
23:49:06 <electrohead> good enough :p
23:50:41 <electrohead> how goes it?
23:51:57 <K> fucking javascript
23:52:51 <electrohead> ew
23:53:01 <electrohead> give it a good fucking for me, as well
23:59:11 <rust1> MORNING!!!