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30:16 * Nero_wrk slaps past me for not properly documenting his work
31:30 <Nero_wrk> I get now why my GF has to spend 30% of her time documenting what she does in the remaining 70%
35:45 <Nero_wrk> is anyone here into miniature painting?
36:13 <Nero_wrk> Usually I wouldn't bother asking but looking at the demographics here, I would imagine my chances higher than average
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14:53 <Nero_wrk> What is it with pcb material suppliers and their habbit of not giving units
15:06 <Nero_wrk> 'Thickness available: 0.03, 0.04, 0.05 ...'
15:13 <K> they're hobbits
15:28 <K> those prolly be them freedom units, Nero_wrk
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47:34 <rust_collector> miniature paining? like small model figures and such?
48:18 <K> maybe painting on poststamps and matchboxes
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03:07 <watcher> Hi
05:00 <Kuschelpony> Hello
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51:37 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o steve30
51:55 <steve30> I'm back from outside in the hot sun
53:35 <steve30> i seemed to have escaped getting sunburned
53:58 <steve30> My Sony murder-weapon-grade camcorder got hot enough to fry an egg though :)
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13:42 * jaymax scrambles it
13:47 <steve30> i should get some dinner
14:06 <jaymax> How about some fried eggs?
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02:11 <Nothing\> hey ho fambly
02:31 <Nothing\> phew what a morning
04:07 <Nothing\> that's weird. When I plug my phone into my computer and it beeps to indicate a successful usb mating ritual has been performed, it steals window focus from whatever from doing. But no other window or anything comes up to take that focus. So I'm not entirely sure where it's going.
04:23 <Nothing\> argh antoher mosquito bite on my leg
04:49 <Nothing\> went for a walk through the park at 2am and the damn mosquitos just ate up my legs
05:33 <Nothing\> guess you guys are dead huh
05:41 <Nothing\> maybe i'll play smash bros then
05:57 <Nothing\> or actually i need to call lawyer and my doctor
06:08 <Kuschelpony> good daqy
06:13 <Nothing\> hey Kuschelpony
06:18 <Nothing\> how's it going buddy?
06:54 <Kuschelpony> should slowly sleep, its late evening
07:19 <Kuschelpony> have at least packed one big box to sent as postage tomorrow, a bit more gear for my holiday weekend
07:28 <Nothing\> oooh wow they sell 1tb microsd cards now?
07:31 <Nothing\> or is this a scam?
07:54 <Nothing\> i would normally think this is a scam but it's on newegg and they usually seem legit to me. I've certainly never had any problems.
08:32 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, oh i know i just got up. I'm still tired but there are things to be done and fun to be had lol.
08:39 <Kuschelpony> also, im istening to the perhaps most epic guitar solo ever
08:47 <Nothing\> oh well yeah
08:51 <Kuschelpony> cant sleep anyway :)
10:19 <Nothing\> epic music's just gonna get your catecholamines flowing (serotinon, dopamine, adrenaline etc) basically all of the stimulatory type neurotransmitters that make you feel good. Your brain usually releases them when you do something that helps survival like eating a good meal or having sex, but it also applies to good music too for some reason lol.
10:38 <Nothing\> the upshot though is that the aftermath of this is relaxation
10:40 <arch> guys
10:44 <Nothing\> arch
10:46 <Nothing\> dude
10:47 <Nothing\> buddy
10:53 <Nothing\> how's it going?
10:59 <arch> there's a huge thunderstorm going on, and every time a large one goes off, my monitor goes dark for a second
11:02 <arch> what's causing that
11:08 <Nothing\> oh weird
11:10 <Nothing\> emp?
11:16 <Kuschelpony> yes
11:18 <arch> not a surge right? cuz then my pc would be shutting off
11:21 <Nothing\> i'd unplug it if i were you
11:37 <Nothing\> even though i don't know how well thta would help against an EMP
11:39 <Nothing\> but that's weird
12:00 <Kuschelpony> from my experience, most computer cables or sockets get the screening and local grounding wrong, so any spike in the air can disrupt the data stream
12:01 <arch> large thunder goes off* i mean, my monitor goes off for a split second
12:01 <Nothing\> part of FCC guidelines is that a product must be able to continue operating despite EM interference
12:05 <arch> ahh
12:09 <Nothing\> unless that's EM from OTHER products
13:09 <Nothing\> it's printed on like every radio based consumer product "this product conforms to FCC guideline blah blha blah: This product shall not produce harmful electromagnetic radiation that will damage or interfere with the operation of other products...
13:18 <Nothing\> and then the part i mentioned is the second bit
13:43 <Kuschelpony> sorry that i was suing the G-Word, replace it with local bonding
13:44 <Nothing\> i wonder if they put those on stun guns lol
14:20 <Nothing\> arch: for some reason I'm imagining you using like a 21in CRT display lol
14:30 <Nothing\> or maybe dual 21in CRTs
14:45 <Nothing\> remember those days, when being in a small room with a computer was like being in a room with a space heater?
15:00 <Nothing\> i'm sure it was worse with tube computers lol
15:13 <arch> welp, i have unplugged my laptop from the wall, and that has my raid1 backup mirror for this desktop
15:36 <Nothing\> right on, good luck with that. Though I'm sure it'll be fine.
15:44 <Nothing\> but yeah, that's damn unsettling to say the least.
16:31 <Nothing\> for what it's worth, my landlord refuses to install any GFCI outlets near any water sources despite it being mandatory because they don't understand what a GFCI outlet is.
17:34 <Kuschelpony> uhm... give them a practical lesson... :)
17:35 <Nothing\> and this is a big property management group renting townhouses. Not some guy who thought cramming 8 people into his old house at $2000 a pop (it happens all the time here) is a good way to make money.
18:14 <Nothing\> in reality the laws are usually on the side of the tennant, so even if they just stop paying rent and refuse to leave, there's very little the landlord can do until many many months after. Unless it's a serious issue.
18:26 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, yeah and a lawsuit to boot
18:31 <Nothing\> i've considered it
18:42 <Nothing\> i don't want to sacrifice my kitties though
18:48 <Nothing\> (i'm not doing it!)
18:51 <Nothing\> =P
18:56 <Nothing\> i'm kidding, of course
19:13 <Nothing\> maybe use a screwdriver or something and claim it was sentient
19:19 <Kuschelpony> mmh i meant more like on a steak
19:28 <Nothing\> oh, yeah that haha
19:39 <Nothing\> talk about 0 to 100 in under a second, huh?
19:41 <Nothing\> :P
19:43 <Kuschelpony> hmm cant remember if it was on EEVblog or another forum where this was recently mentioned
21:37 <Nothing\> what the hell, a 400gb microsd card? that doesn't even sound real
21:56 <Nothing\> but it's SanDisk and on NewEgg, so there's nothing janky.
22:19 <Nothing\> they've got a 1tb one too that's tempting, but $190
22:38 <Nothing\> gotta replace the card in my Nintendo Switch cuz the 128 got filled up.
24:11 Nick: Onus is now known as Breathe
24:24 <Nothing\> I've been buying more digital downloads lately because it's just more convenient. I don't have to go to the store and hope they have it. I don't have to get up to change the game every time (the horror!) There's no liability of losing the game. Plus the Nintendo Switch has hands down the WORST tasting physical games of any console ever.
24:49 <Nothing\> Breathe, good advice, I think I'll do that
24:51 * Nothing\ breathes
25:03 <Breathe> No, no
25:03 <Nothing\> HOLY CRAP I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M DYING ANYMORE!
25:04 <Breathe> Harder
25:08 <Nothing\> where has this been all my life?
25:45 <Nothing\> here i've just been letting my lungs absorb oxygen by natural convection currents bringing fresh air in and just absorbing it by diffusion
26:00 <Nothing\> if only i had frog skin
26:22 <Nothing\> actualyl wait, frogs breathe through their skin, right?
26:50 <Nothing\> so then why do they have a nose, and they obviously breathe to croak and fill up that balloon thingy on their neck
27:08 <DHess_US> Technically your lungs don't absorb from the air. The air diffuses into the water in the lungs, and the gases diffuse into the lungs from the water.
31:15 <Breathe> Nothing\, unfortunately you've fallen for the classic blunder
31:18 <Breathe> Breathing is a trap
31:24 <Breathe> Everyone who has ever breathed has died.
33:28 <Nothing\> https://i.postimg.cc/D248JRjR/20220717-151831.jpg
33:35 <Nothing\> breathe some of that
33:52 <Nothing\> lol jk i'm not one of those hippie dippie types, i hate those types tbh
33:56 * Ampera kisses Nothing\
34:00 <Nothing\> IT'S NATURAL SO IT'S SAFE
34:06 <Breathe> Hahahaha, I don't like weed tbh
34:08 * Nothing\ tackle hugs Ampera <3
34:20 <Breathe> If I were to do any drugs again, I would probably do mescaline.
34:22 <Ampera> how are you do Nothing\?
34:25 <Nothing\> Breathe, see, not everyone's into it. But some people seem to think they should be.
34:28 <Ampera> drugs are gay
34:30 <Nothing\> it pisses me off
34:44 <Ampera> you're not gay, therefore you are not allowed to use drugs
34:54 <Breathe> I'm not going to pretend as if psychadelics are some amazing spiritual experience.
35:01 <Breathe> But, they are very interesting substances.
35:08 <Breathe> Haven't done drugs in many years, though.
35:32 <Kuschelpony> breathing is harmless, just avoid the reactive oxygen
35:37 <Breathe> Lmao
35:51 <Nothing\> Breathe, i was honestly thinking the best thing for me at this point might be a shamanic experience with psilocin or mescaline or lsd, a typical psychedelic. Preferably LSD because of its duration, though I've never tried mescaline. But I'm wary of such attempts too because I know they can destroy your psyche as easily as they can rebuild it.
36:10 <Breathe> Nothing\, mescaline can get pretty heavy, have you ever had it before?
36:12 <Nothing\> Ampera, i'm doing great btw thanks. I had a great poop this morning because i accidentally doubled up on my laxatives lol.
36:20 <Nothing\> Breathe, unfortunately not
36:34 <Nothing\> although when i used those drugs it was more to get high than for utilitarian purposes
36:42 <rust2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKPViUoatqw
36:42 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Focus - Happy Nightmare (Mescaline)
36:44 <Nothing\> lol lady salvia kicked my ass for that
36:54 <Breathe> I have found that lsd and mushrooms are generally pretty lighthearted experiences even at high doses, however mescaline was most similar to oral DMT for me.
37:11 <Breathe> Was a very heavy experience.
37:28 <Nothing\> actually she was oblivious to the presence of a literal nothing like me (compared to her) but the experience was exceedingly unpleasant to say the least. But I'm glad I still got insights despite the fact that I was just trying to get fucked up.
37:48 <Nothing\> Breathe, i've only ever smoked 5-meo-dmt
37:52 <Breathe> Hahaha, I used to do DMT semi-recreationally
38:20 <Breathe> I.e not the hippy shit where they pretend they're contacting other dimensions and it's got to be a sacred experience, etc.
38:50 <Breathe> Frankly, I found it enjoyable, but it's definitely jolting.
39:29 <Nothing\> and never at breakthrough doses. When you smoke it it makes your chest really tight and makes it hard to breathe. I don't know if you get that with DMT orally, but i've heard it reported from smoked DMT as well. But it made me afraid to smoke more than a small dose because feeling like I was slowly asphyxiating to death while experiencing 5meo/dmt-space sounds like hell to me. Assuming you even remember you have lungs.
39:52 <Breathe> Hm, I didn't get breathing difficulty.
40:02 <Breathe> I did lose reality every time, though.
40:07 <Nothing\> ah must have been some sort of lung irritation from smoking it then
40:10 <Breathe> Dissolved into fractals.
40:24 <Nothing\> actually i read an interesting thing the other day. I obviously take it with a grain of salt, but it's relevant.
40:28 <Breathe> It's possible there were contaminants, a lot of the DMT we get in australia is uh
40:31 <Breathe> 'home cooked'
40:37 <Breathe> And not very well extracted.
40:49 <Nothing\> That whole idea of how the Mazatec shamans used to believed every recreational compound has its own spirit in it etc
41:22 <Nothing\> i read (on reddit mind you) that they believed putting fire to these plants was disrespectful and angered the spirits, hence why salvia is so unpleasant when smoked.
41:45 <Nothing\> But i haven't exactly read a lot of reports (when i read them that is) about people using the quid method with salvia
41:48 <Breathe> Fair enough, well if you're spiritual about it I have no judgement.
41:53 <Breathe> I just enjoy the altered cognition.
42:00 <Nothing\> dunno how you could even use the quid method with the dried out crap you get at the store
42:19 <Nothing\> tbh i just wanted escape
42:23 <Nothing\> want/wanted
42:28 <Nothing\> suicide without death, i call it
42:36 <Breathe> Hahaha, hey fair man, and ego death is very interesting.
42:47 <Nothing\> <-- methadone addict and ex street opiate user
42:51 <Breathe> Once you do actually recover your fa-
43:00 <Nothing\> never heroin thankfull, i stuck to pharms but still that was bad enough.
43:02 <Breathe> Oh no way, yeah I had some very heavy abuse problems as a young man.
43:13 <Breathe> Same sort of thing.
43:20 <Nothing\> at least i didn't have the risk of fentanyl or anything. And fentanyl was only JUST starting to come on the scene when i went on methadone
43:40 <Nothing\> i've been working on tapering but it's demoralizing to realize it's gonna take 6 years to do
43:48 <Breathe> Oh you're still on methadone?
43:51 <Nothing\> IF i work at it consistently and perfectly
43:54 <Nothing\> yeah
44:05 <Nothing\> and clonazepam
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44:22 <Breathe> It can be difficult to get off opiates for some people, I think it's down to personal brain uh....structure
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44:34 <Breathe> I was never really that addicted to opiates, even when I was.
44:42 <Nothing\> so they're feeding off of eachother in terms of the withdrawals. I get the slightest WDs from one, and feel like i'm just as bad with the other, regardless of how much I've had.
44:50 <Breathe> I just decided to stop one day and that was it.
44:53 <Nothing\> Breathe, you dodged a huge bullet
45:06 <Breathe> Well, I got addicted to other things that weren't so easy to quit.
45:11 <Nothing\> Breathe, heh i discovered i could get high (without tolerance) on poppy seeds you buy at the store
45:16 <Breathe> But that's why I think it's down to predisposition.
45:23 <Breathe> HAHAHAHA
45:45 <Nothing\> Breathe, i'm sorry to hear that. But in my case I"ve found that fighting addiction causes you to grow more than perhaps anything else in life. At least anything I've been through.
45:46 <Breathe> Yeah before they started cracking down on washing the seeds to remove the latex, but, I was addicted to morphine and oxycodone
45:57 <Nothing\> Breathe, funniest part about the poppy seeds. I learned that from the Mythbusters
46:15 <Nothing\> their episode about whether poppy seeds will cause a "false" positive for opiates on a drug test
46:41 <Breathe> Oh they will, of course. I have no attraction to opiates themselves, though, so I can't see the
46:42 <Breathe> Appeal
46:48 <Nothing\> i figured if they cause a positive result, there must be SOME amount of opiates in them so if I got enough together I could get high on it
46:53 <Breathe> I was physically addicted but not mentally, you know?
47:17 <Nothing\> oh i see. That's sometimes the worst place to be. All you want to do is quit but your body won't let you.
47:21 <Breathe> Or, well I realise it's all in the brain, but I had no desire to use after cessation
47:24 <Nothing\> I'm kind of like that with pot.
47:42 <Breathe> Just, throwing up, hot and cold flushes, etc
47:47 <Breathe> Very uncomfortable.
48:16 <Nothing\> i don't want to smoke anymore. But every time I stop I get so sick from the methadone, I guess, I dunno. I stop eating entirely for about 4 or 5 days which wreaks havok on my stomach. Can't sleep more than an hour a night.
48:34 <Nothing\> i mean i know it's "just pot" but when you've addicted to other stuff, it plays off of that too.
48:38 <Breathe> This is going to sound like some hippy supplement bullshit
48:45 <Breathe> Have you tried supplementing with NAC?
48:52 <Nothing\> NAC?
49:00 <Breathe> N-Acteyl Cysteine
49:15 <Nothing\> isn't that an antidote for apap toxicity?
49:36 <Nothing\> or is it for benzodiazepines, I can never remember
49:44 <Nothing\> i know it's an antidote for something
49:53 <Nothing\> but that's interesting. I've never heard it used in any other context
50:03 <Breathe> It's a derivative of L-Cysteine but it's shown promise in a lot of studies to do with physical addictions in general.
50:10 <Breathe> Including nicotine, for example.
50:13 <Breathe> But opiates also.
50:18 <Nothing\> interesting
50:21 <Nothing\> well, it can't hurt
50:30 <Breathe> It can if you're on SSRI's.
50:34 <Nothing\> well, it can but oh well what have i got to lose
50:42 <Nothing\> haha so it's serotonergic?
50:53 <Nothing\> welllucky for me i don't touch that stuff
51:26 <Nothing\> i'll have to read up on it because this is actually the second time this week i've heard of it used that way
51:56 <Breathe> Nothing\, no, I don't believe so.
52:33 <Breathe> I use it to lessen the effects of hangovers, actually, and I was going to offer it to my girlfriend for that purpose, but upon checking interactions
52:47 <Breathe> It showed some danger, so we elected not to.
53:18 <Breathe> I will state that from my personal experience it's like being hungover at 20 rather than 30, at least for me.
53:26 <Breathe> Few hours in bed and you're up and about.
53:57 <rust2> just stop getting sober, and it will be ok
54:02 <Nothing\> interesting. Well it sounds promising from what you say. So I'm definitely going to pursue it some more.
54:11 <Nothing\> rust2, oh man, if only
54:30 <Nothing\> unfortunately the human body has a habit of adapting to everything we do to it for some reason
54:38 <Nothing\> (survival, i know =P)
54:55 <steve30> i should probably have a coffee
55:03 <rust2> YES!
55:09 * Nothing\ shares his coffee with steve30 
55:11 <rust2> coffee would be good
55:17 <Nothing\> this'll get you through until you can get some of your own
55:22 <Nothing\> rust2, isn't it like...
55:33 <Nothing\> 10pm there
55:39 <rust2> uh, yes
55:55 <Nothing\> huh i always figured you were a bit more ahead of me
56:10 <Nothing\> btw rust2 did you see how big my baby's getting?
56:12 <Nothing\> i'm so proud
56:14 <Nothing\> lol
56:19 <rust2> yep,
56:25 <rust2> looks green
56:26 <Nothing\> we got so much rain the last day
56:30 <Nothing\> lol it smells green
56:45 <Nothing\> although i don't think either of my neighbours care
57:04 <Nothing\> technically as per my lease agreement i'm not supposed to grow or smoke but nobody cares about that
57:23 <Nothing\> the landlord even said you can smoke if you want as long as nobody minds
57:38 <Breathe> Lmao
57:48 <Breathe> You're not aus, are you?
57:48 <rust2> I wonder if I should get some lunch
57:48 <Nothing\> Breathe, it's federally legal here btw :P
57:51 <Nothing\> lol no
57:52 <Breathe> Or canberra.
57:53 <Nothing\> canada
57:57 <Nothing\> canberra huh
58:01 <Breathe> Ahhhhh that's nice.
58:08 <Nothing\> looks like your voyager guys are gonna be out of work soon
58:12 <rust2> that is open for discussion, i think
58:19 <Breathe> That explains why we're awake at the same time, I work on EST.
58:25 <Breathe> I believe that's toronto time.
58:28 <Nothing\> ah right on
58:33 <Nothing\> yup, i'm just an hour from toronto
58:49 <Nothing\> toronto, ottawa, dc, whole east coast
58:51 <Nothing\> as the name implies
58:52 <Nothing\> heh
59:05 <Nothing\> so are you originally canadian?
59:11 <Nothing\> or just working for canadians?
59:14 <Ampera> fuckin canadians
59:16 <Breathe> Oh, no, I work for a company in NY.
59:17 <Ampera> they ruined canadia
59:21 <Ampera> EWWWWW
59:21 <Ampera> NY
59:24 <Ampera> FUCK NEW YORK
59:28 <Ampera> AND ALL THE FUCKERS WHO LIVE THERE
59:30 <Ampera> ASSHOLES
59:38 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol did you know we burnt down the white house once
59:42 <Breathe> Yes, yes, I know, but the capital though
59:54 <Nothing\> canada invaded DC and razed the whitehouse to the ground
59:57 <Ampera> Nothing\, if you mean the british, then yes.
00:02 <Nothing\> well yeah
00:05 <Nothing\> british canada
00:08 <Nothing\> :P
00:11 <Ampera> Breathe, the capital of NY?
00:21 <Breathe> Yes, new york, new york
00:28 <Nothing\> i haven't looked into it yet, but apparently there used to be a spanish canada
00:29 <Ampera> you're gonna make me fucking strangle you
00:35 <Ampera> holy shit
00:40 <Nothing\> Ampera, that's that new york blood in you
00:43 <Nothing\> it makes you angry
00:49 <Ampera> ey fuck you man
01:06 <Breathe> Ampera, we don't have the kinds of cyber jobs I want to do in australia.
01:06 <Ampera> Nothing\, I was born in New England
01:09 <Nothing\> just close your eyes and think of seinfeld
01:19 <Nothing\> Ampera, the best England
01:23 <Ampera> Breathe, NYC is barely New York. It has almost nothing in common with the rest of the state
01:34 <Breathe> Red team shit here is like non existant unless you follow a CEO home and break into their house
01:37 <Nothing\> i bet new england's got gorgeous scenery
01:43 <Nothing\> so long as you stay away from boston
01:57 <Ampera> Breathe, yeah, because who the fuck wants to break into australia
02:06 <Nothing\> Ampera, Japan
02:08 <Ampera> australians can be dealt with by saying "fite me cunt"
02:10 <Ampera> gets em every time
02:10 <Breathe> HAHAHAHA, that's
02:13 <Breathe> True though
02:19 <Breathe> Hahahaha
02:22 * electrohead waves and stuff
02:41 * Ampera gives electrohead a New York salute
02:48 <Nothing\> but yeah thinking off the top of my head, what exactly has Aus got for resources?
02:51 <Ampera> coal
02:54 <Nothing\> the oldest fossils in the world
02:55 <Ampera> a fuck ton of coal
02:56 <Breathe> Russian hackers are like "Vladimir, this bank has paid the ransom in something called 'dollaridoos'"
03:01 <Nothing\> an Opal mine in Coober Peedy
03:06 <steve30> I had a headache yesterday, and also had one when i woke up, but I had some paracetamol and it went, and hasn't returned
03:06 <Nothing\> probably lots of salt
03:14 <Nothing\> lots of alkali metals from the sands
03:16 <Breathe> o/ hey electrohead
03:18 * electrohead beers Breathe
03:22 <Breathe> Nice to see you again
03:49 <Breathe> Apologies about lack of responsiveness earlier, I was working.
03:50 <Nothing\> steve30, that sucks man. Are you a regular coffee drinker? or otherwise a consumer of caffeine?
03:57 <electrohead> all good :p
03:59 <electrohead> also - https://arxiv.org/abs/2207.07413
04:00 <EEVBot> [Title] - [2207.07413] SATAn: Air-Gap Exfiltration Attack via Radio Signals From SATA Cables
04:01 <Ampera> I've lived in New York most of my life and have only been to NYC twice.
04:07 <electrohead> always something old yet new :)
04:17 <Ampera> It's a terrible city full of terrible people. None of the infrastructure is maintained, and they tax you to death anyways
04:35 <Ampera> It's always under construction, and there's a bum literally every other corner
04:43 <Ampera> pidgeons absolutely everywhere
04:51 <Nothing\> if you don't drink enough caffeine if your body's used to it, it can cause a splitting headache as it causes the blood vessels in the meninges, the lining around your brain, to dilate, which puts pressure on the surrounding tissues, causing the headache.
05:04 <Ampera> Nothing\, that's never happened to me
05:17 <Ampera> I frequently go on/off caffeine, and have never had a withdrawal
05:26 <Nothing\> that's why they put a small amount of caffeine in some headache relief medicines. The caffeine constricts the blood vessels and relieves the pressure.
05:58 <Breathe> Yeah, caffeine's wonderful
05:59 <steve30> Nothing\, I drink coffee regularly
06:06 <Nothing\> But the thing is, if you're addicted to caffeine, simply not consuming it can cause a rebound effect whereby the blood vessels in your meninges will dilate and cause you pain just the same as most other headaches.
06:06 <Breathe> He says, slowly developing cardiac issues
06:48 <Breathe> electrohead, man I have seen some insane shit from ben gurion
06:54 <Nothing\> steve30, ah so it's possible you could have just not drank enough coffee. Even if you were drinking it, it may not have been enough. But I don't want to make any assumptions about how much coffee you had yesterday.
06:55 <Ampera> Breathe, what part of upside downy soft land do you live in?
07:09 <Breathe> Currently, new south wales
07:14 <Ampera> ew
07:15 <Nothing\> at the same time if you drink coffee regularly I'd expect throughout the day you probably had some coffee anyways so that would/should have helped
07:17 <Ampera> the blandest of all the states
07:22 <steve30> I have a bit of tinitus this afternoon though as I've been stood next to some very loud speakers at a town centre sportball event
07:28 <Breathe> Lmao
07:29 <Nothing\> but i'm just thinking aloud. You'll have to excuse the unsolicited advice steve30
07:40 <Breathe> Ampera, I'm originally from queensland, so it seems like that's worse
07:54 <Nothing\> ah man i've tinnitus for years so bad lol i can hear it over traffic
07:56 <Ampera> It's all boganville as far as I am concerned.
08:07 <Ampera> you guys make our houses look good :P
08:13 <Nothing\> thankfully it's just become part of the background noise of everything and I don't notice it unless I pay attention to it.
08:13 <Breathe> Oh lah di da canberra
08:16 <steve30> I usually have at least a couple. Don't know if that's what caused yesterday's headache though
08:20 <Ampera> cymru?
08:33 <Nothing\> steve30, interestingly enough, aspirin can cause tinnitus in large doses
08:43 <Ampera> canberra sounds like washington DC without the rampant crime and poverty
08:56 <Ampera> meaning, washington DC without the only thing that makes it remarkable
08:56 <Breathe> Ampera, oh wales
08:57 <steve30> I've never had aspirin. I've always been a paracetamol/ibuprofen person
09:10 <Breathe> Wait hold on, don't you lads have a native language that sounds like a stroke
09:11 <Ampera> canberra -> cambria -> cymru
09:18 <Ampera> you lads?
09:21 <Ampera> I'm not welsh
09:35 <Nothing\> i have no idea how or why. But in overdose amounts, aspirin is ototoxic, or toxic to the ears. But I'm not sure of what structures it's toxic to or what it does specifically. I just know that itt will permanently damage your hearing and cause tinnitus.
09:36 <Ampera> damn I wish I was, the sex standards are WAY lower there
09:42 <Breathe> wait
09:45 <Breathe> Sex standards?
09:47 <Breathe> Lmfao
09:49 <Breathe> What?
09:51 <Ampera> livestock standards
10:17 <Nothing\> Ampera, oh did you see my baby recently?
10:18 <Ampera> It's not called dogging in wales, it's called sheeping.
10:24 <rust2> oh, you should look up new zealand
10:28 <Ampera> Nothing\, this question scares me
10:31 <Nothing\> she (fingers crossed) is really coming along nicely
10:34 <Breathe> Nothing\, a lot of meds are ototoxic, I was surprised
10:34 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol my plant
10:40 <electrohead> https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/commit/1e70e82baa91
10:44 <EEVBot> [Title] - stream_libarchive: workaround various types of locale braindeath · mpv-player/mpv@1e70e82 · GitHub
10:47 <Nothing\> Breathe, really? Could you name a few, now i'm curious.
10:49 <electrohead> the very last paragraph, fucking rofl
10:55 <Breathe> Although I think the buzzing in my ears is due to my childhood metalhead phase.
11:00 <Nothing\> Ampera, https://i.postimg.cc/D248JRjR/20220717-151831.jpg
11:02 <Nothing\> lol
11:08 <Ampera> da good kush
11:10 <Nothing\> the thing's like doubled in size in less than a week
11:18 <Nothing\> and it actually smells the part
11:20 <Ampera> yeah, it's growing like a weed
11:24 <Breathe> Nothing\, gentamicin for one
11:28 <Nothing\> Ampera, haha yeah
11:33 <Breathe> Actually a fair few more uncommon antibiotics
11:37 <rust2> that guy has a point
11:42 <Nothing\> Breathe, that sounds like a chemotherapeutic agent
11:49 <Nothing\> which i know a lot of THOSE drugs are ototoxic
12:07 <Nothing\> but that's just a given that chemotherapy drugs would be cytotoxic, period.
12:17 <Breathe> Nothing\, they use it for pneumonia
12:23 <Nothing\> speaking of, have you ever heard of cis-platin?
12:29 <Breathe> I have not.
12:39 <Nothing\> Breathe, i was gonna say alternatively it sounds like an antibiotic which you also mentioned apparently heh
13:10 <Nothing\> Breathe, ah it's an interesting compound. As the name implies it's a simple organo(i think)platinum compound that's used for chemo
13:23 <Nothing\> but being that it's made out of platinum, it can't be cheap
13:46 <Nothing\> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisplatin
13:47 <EEVBot> [Title] - Cisplatin - Wikipedia
13:53 <Nothing\> not even organo
14:12 <Breathe> Nothing\, is your baby the tomato plants?
14:27 <Breathe> The uh
14:30 <Breathe> ....Tomato
14:32 <Breathe> Plants
14:46 <Nothing\> tom ate your toes?
15:16 <Breathe> Tom needs to learn to respect personal space
15:16 <Nothing\> lol i remember as a kid hearing that pot plants look like tomato plants
15:30 <Breathe> They don't much but they're good to companion plant tbh
15:37 <Breathe> The smell is a sure give away though.
15:42 <Nothing\> i also remember reading in one of those anti-drug pamphlets that burning pot smells like burning rope
15:46 <Breathe> It's more for like, your neighbour being nosy.
15:55 <Nothing\> which you know whomever wrote that has never smelled burning pot in their life
15:58 <Nothing\> they're just like
16:13 <Nothing\> "well, pot is hemp, and hemp makes ropes, so burning pot must smell like burning ropes"
16:23 <Breathe> Weed smells so much better unburnt.
16:28 <Nothing\> YES
16:33 <Nothing\> i was just saying this the other day
16:39 <Nothing\> i don't like the smell of the smoke
16:43 <Breathe> I'd unironically use that shit in one of those oil humidifiers
16:52 <Nothing\> i won't even smoke in my room because i don't want to stick it up
16:52 <Breathe> It's prettty g
17:04 <Nothing\> Breathe, lol they have car air fresheners that smell like cannabis
17:13 <Nothing\> which, why not just have ones that smell like a distillery
17:46 <Nothing\> that's the thing, since it's legal here they've been coming down really hard on people for driving while smoking
18:02 <Nothing\> but they have no way to prove they were stoned at the time except maybe a blood test.
18:23 <Nothing\> But I've seen it happen so many times where somebody tests positive in a urine sample and that's enough to convict them
18:37 <Nothing\> you know, because it only ever shows up in your piss while you're high
18:40 * Nothing\ rolls eyes
18:54 * Ampera rolls dice
19:14 <Nothing\> Ampera, i'd really like to find a good stackbuilder type game on pc
19:21 <Ampera> stackbuilder?
19:26 <Nothing\> yeah like umm
19:35 <Nothing\> i guess magic the gathering, though i never played that
19:41 <Ampera> oh
19:41 <Ampera> ew
19:42 <Nothing\> or pokemon, again never played it
19:46 <Nothing\> but they have other elements
19:50 <Ampera> deckbuilding you mean
19:56 <Nothing\> yes, thank you
20:00 <Nothing\> and sorry
20:05 <Nothing\> still fuzzy headed
20:25 <Nothing\> but yeah i've played a couple that weren't so heavy on the card stuff but still used it as PART of the mechanics to a great effect.
20:34 <Nothing\> so i've been trying to find other games like that
20:54 <electrohead> heh, I just discovered something amazing
20:58 <electrohead> for mpv:
21:02 <Nothing\> electrohead, it's called a penis
21:02 <electrohead> mpv --vo=tct <file_name>
21:16 <Nothing\> protip: if you pull on it over and over again it'll spit in your face
21:25 <electrohead> https://0xznc01.pw:2600/public/2022-07-18-162028_1920x1080_scrot.png
21:35 <electrohead> playing videos in CLI land <3
21:45 <Nothing\> electrohead, is it a coincidence that that's called ...scrot.jpg?
21:46 <Nothing\> lol
21:54 <Ampera> scrot is a program
21:55 <Nothing\> and CLI land
21:58 <Ampera> you windows troglodyte
22:01 <Nothing\> i mean come on, so tempting
22:17 <electrohead> rally?
22:18 <electrohead> really*
22:22 <Ampera> electrohead, yunosixel
22:23 <Nothing\> Ampera, did you know that Robert Fripp wrote the intro music for windows vista
22:34 <Nothing\> which is probably the best thing about it
22:37 <Ampera> Nothing\, that'd explain why it's the least understood version of windows
22:40 <Nothing\> the fact that he wrote it
22:46 <electrohead> I took a screenshot, you goofballs
22:49 <Nothing\> not the song itself
22:54 <Ampera> electrohead, SIXEL BIOTCH >:(
22:59 <electrohead> nein!
23:02 <Ampera> YES
23:04 <Breathe> Nothing\, yeah I have some friends from canada. They do like the THC.
23:04 <Nothing\> electrohead, lol potatovision
23:13 <Breathe> I used to enjoy it, I can't anymore reallly.
23:16 <Ampera> I don't have friends from canada, only mortal enemies
23:21 <Breathe> Hahahaha
23:21 <Nothing\> Breathe, the shops are friggin everywhere lol
23:26 * electrohead tosses an empty beer can at both Ampera and Nothing\
23:27 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol
23:35 <Breathe> Nothing\, oh business is booming for sure.
23:37 * Ampera chucks an empty beer bottle at electrohead 
23:42 <Ampera> SEE? I CAN BE A PARENT TOO!
23:46 <electrohead> lol
23:50 <Nothing\> Breathe, it is and it isn't because there's so much unregulated competition
23:54 <Breathe> I won't comment any further on canada because some of the uh
23:59 <Nothing\> unregulated in terms of who opens up a store where
23:59 <Breathe> Some of the other stuff I don't like.
24:05 <Breathe> But I don't want to make it political.
24:05 <Nothing\> so you get a shop on every block
24:07 <Ampera> all the racists child murderers?
24:23 <Nothing\> okay brpee
24:24 <Ampera> how the RCMP harasses the native population on a regular basis?
24:34 <Breathe> Well, no, like how bestiality was technically legal until 2012.
24:37 <steve30> We had Icelandic people in Rotherham today. I'm surprised they didn't melt in the heat.
24:38 <Breathe> And things like that.
24:45 <Ampera> bestiality is technically legal if you don't get caught
25:34 <electrohead> "You know why they have a cock on a weather vane? Cause if they had a cunt, the wind would blow right through it."
25:43 <Breathe> Lmao
25:49 <steve30> hehe
26:01 <Breathe> Oh electro
26:15 <Breathe> I'm doing some designs up for a thing
26:28 <Ampera> it better be a giant minecraft penis
26:32 <Ampera> or I'm gonna be mighty disappointed in you
26:36 <electrohead> lol
26:45 <Breathe> I already built the gold monolith
26:57 <electrohead> Breathe: what kind of thing, other than a penis?
27:40 <Breathe> Well, it's a stupid side project but the gov won't let me have an unregistered airgun for fucking around so I'm doing a beefier coilgun.
28:02 <Breathe> I do have a gun license, but it's like
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28:09 <Breathe> Come on.
28:13 <Breathe> You know?
28:23 <electrohead> ahh, a coil gun, heh
28:35 <Breathe> Well, yeah it's not going to be
28:40 <Breathe> Very powerful exactly.
29:05 <Breathe> But I've got a 3D printer that can handle the high temp materials.
29:17 <Breathe> And it's like, well technically it's legal
29:25 <electrohead> lol
29:48 <Breathe> And, legal in NSW, too, which
29:53 <Breathe> Almost nothing is.
30:14 <Breathe> Plus it's got to look all weird because anything that resembles a gun is treated as a firearm here.
30:57 <Breathe> electrohead, I know, not a very interesting project initially, but check it out right
31:33 <electrohead> it sounds fun, though
32:52 <Ampera> lol, registered airgun
32:58 <Ampera> such a concept does not exist here :D
33:01 <Breathe> Yeah, dumb, right?
33:08 <Breathe> But, so electrohead
33:16 <Ampera> We have no restrictions on air guns besides a minimum age of 16 for ownership
33:34 <Breathe> I was thinking ferric cored rounds, but set in some chunky ass plastic
34:00 <Breathe> I will admit I have not done any of the math on that bit.
35:03 <Breathe> But I think it should work.
35:25 <Breathe> And then you could shoot each other, it might hurt a little but it won't be too bad.
35:49 <Breathe> Obviously charging time between shots will be prohibitive
36:33 <Breathe> Or, you know, they could just make airsoft legal, but that'll never happen
36:37 <steve30> i think i'll go to bed
37:46 <Breathe> Well, it is very early.
38:51 * electrohead shrugs
38:58 <electrohead> I'm not a huge gun nut in general
39:07 <electrohead> but, coil guns are pretty cool
39:17 <electrohead> (I know, that makes me not-american, heh)
43:58 <Breathe> Haha, nah I don't think guns should be toys.
44:04 <Breathe> Airsoft, yeah.
44:08 <Breathe> Those are toys.
44:34 <Breathe> Paintball guns, also toys.
44:39 <Breathe> Hurts a bit I guess.
44:53 <Breathe> electrohead, I don't understand american gun culture, but.
45:08 <Breathe> It seem excessive to ban all things that resemble firearms.
45:23 * electrohead shrugs
45:25 <Breathe> Even if they're essentially harmless.
45:36 * electrohead beers Breathe again
45:51 <Breathe> Why thank you, don't mind if I do.
46:09 <Breathe> electrohead, how's your day been, by the way?
46:45 <Breathe> Been a hell of a day on my end, I took this freelance project in my free time before work for network monitoring and incident response
47:08 <Breathe> And eventually it became clear the guy who advertised the contract was legitimately mentally ill.
47:35 <electrohead> eh, it's going. just sipping some beers and trying to become motivated
48:38 <Breathe> So I had to explain to this guy every single detail of the report I gave him, and explain why his neighbours (who he told me he suspected had hacked his computer about 3/4 of the way through the monitoring) couldn't afford the exploits required to gain access to all of his devices.
49:22 <Breathe> And he still didn't believe it.
50:47 <Breathe> And, yeah I'm half fuckin dead man.
52:31 <Ampera> firearms are great, they kill children and scare people
52:34 <Ampera> hrm
52:40 <Ampera> actually, now that I put it like that, they're not that great
53:51 <electrohead> "my precious gun excuse"
53:52 <electrohead> ...
53:59 * electrohead walks away
54:02 <Ampera> well yeah
54:06 <Ampera> you can fuck a gun, you can't fuck a child
55:22 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
56:21 <Breathe> Aw.
56:27 <electrohead> you made nothing leave
56:27 <Breathe> The canadian left, I liked that one.
56:29 <electrohead> lol
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59:09 <jaymax> Old muskets don't count as guns here in canoeland. Well, legally. There'll always be some idiot who'll scream otherwise.
20:00 * electrohead beers jaymax
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40:06 <Nothing\> I have several dollars to spend on any components I want on aliexpress. What should I buy?
40:16 <Nothing\> any suggestion is valid
40:50 <Nothing\> so long as it's an electrical or electronic component or hardware module of some sort
41:59 <electrohead> Nothing\: RP2040 pico W dev boards?
42:29 <Nothing\> electrohead, i'd love to but i've always had trouble figuring out how to program devboards or even the chips themselves
42:42 <Nothing\> it's like one of those things i'm cursed with or something
43:12 <electrohead> well, time to get cracking?
43:19 <Nothing\> even my arduino it took me weeks to get it to work because it was a knockoff so i needed a ch340/341 driver but didn't find out until... well, weeks later
43:49 <Nothing\> plus i have a enough MCUs and embedded systems to keep me busy learning them for quite a while as it is
44:03 <electrohead> not to be a dick: get a linux box set up, and you won't need to worry about drivers as much, for said UARTs to work
44:25 <electrohead> :p
45:07 <Nothing\> here it is
45:08 <Nothing\> https://i.ibb.co/c3TWcx4/MCUs-and-CPUs-2.jpg
45:21 <Nothing\> i mean, it's nothing to write home about but it's enough to keep me busy a while
45:47 <electrohead> what all projects have you done so far?
46:20 <Nothing\> lol just making a hello world for the W65C816
46:27 <electrohead> that's it?
46:29 <Nothing\> then i forgot how to upload programs to it
46:36 <Nothing\> and lost the documentation
46:40 <Nothing\> and can't seem to find it
46:41 * electrohead uploads Nothing\ to the cloud
46:43 <Nothing\> anywhere
46:48 <Nothing\> online or otherwise
46:50 <Nothing\> lol
47:11 <Nothing\> and the IDE it comes with is so old, it doesn't even support a scroll wheel, so....
47:43 <Nothing\> yeah i dunno what it is with me
48:00 <Nothing\> it seems it should be easier than this to at least upload a program to a devboard
48:01 <electrohead> well shit, get to it
48:07 <Nothing\> even my ATTiny
48:08 <electrohead> plenty enough of documentation online
48:10 <electrohead> :p
48:17 <Nothing\> which i'm not sure if that's in there or not
48:28 <Nothing\> oh yeah, the chip is but not the board
48:52 <electrohead> so look up IC part numbers, and start there?
49:39 <Nothing\> aye i have a whole binder of datasheets for every chip in that first devboard for the 65816
50:03 <Nothing\> and a programming guide for the chip
50:10 <electrohead> well that's how you'll find out how to flash/program stuff :p
50:18 <Nothing\> heh let's hope so
50:28 <Nothing\> because ime stuff like that just tells you about how to program it
50:45 <Nothing\> but doesn't actually explain how to use the software
50:57 <Nothing\> in terms of programming and uploading etc
51:24 <Nothing\> just, for anything in general
51:34 <Nothing\> maybe i'm just not reading enough of it
51:39 * Nothing\ shrugs
51:56 <electrohead> what all have you done with the arduino nanos?
53:01 <Nothing\> struggled with a lot of broken libraries
53:02 <Nothing\> lol
53:41 * electrohead shrugs
53:42 <electrohead> lol
54:20 <Nothing\> arduinos always felt impure anyways
54:36 <electrohead> well what about the r.pi?
54:44 <electrohead> that's straight forward, getting linux up and running
55:26 <electrohead> if anything, use the r.pi as your linux box.
55:36 <electrohead> then use that to mess with/program everything else
55:39 <electrohead> :p
56:45 <Nothing\> heh it's on the bucketlist somewhere
56:58 <electrohead> well get that shit done
57:02 * electrohead nods
57:05 * electrohead sips his beer
09:44 <steve30> i don't seem sleepy enough to go to sleep
11:42 * electrohead beers steve30
11:48 <electrohead> stop over for more.
11:54 <electrohead> I'll get you to fall asleep
11:57 <electrohead> :P
15:43 <electrohead> Nothing\: you could totally fuck with the tiny85
15:47 <electrohead> those are fun to play with
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17:13 <Halcyon> Morning
17:58 * Halcyon hugs Ampera
18:05 <Halcyon> and Ysjoelfir
19:12 <steve30> hi
20:12 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
21:11 <steve30> Halcyon, I survived today's high temperature
21:24 * electrohead beers Halcyon
21:29 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
21:33 * Ampera pets steve30 
21:52 * electrohead films
22:37 * steve30 winds electrohead up in DVCAM tape
23:05 <Halcyon> Did you go to the waterpark steve30 ?
23:17 <Halcyon> I'm doing OK Ampera, I'm really sore though
23:23 <steve30> I went into town all afternoon for a sportsball related event
23:32 <Halcyon> Silly sportsball
23:32 <Ampera> you're as sorey as a canadian, Halcyon
23:54 * electrohead gets wrapped
24:04 * Halcyon licks electrohead while he can't fight back
24:19 * electrohead bites random things
24:24 <Halcyon> Hahaha
25:24 <Halcyon> I bought a tablet
25:43 * Ampera throws a pack of alka-seltzer at Halcyon 
27:24 <steve30> There were a lot of icelandic people in town today
27:37 <Halcyon> Maybe they were escaping the cold?
27:43 <Ampera> cold is great
27:45 <Ampera> <3
28:06 <Halcyon> I'm so over it.
28:11 <Halcyon> Stupid winter
28:21 <steve30> Got some good video footage though
28:48 <Halcyon> You going to upload it Steve?
29:05 <steve30> I'll do a youtube video after the next event next week
29:23 <electrohead> Halcyon: which one did you get?
30:52 <Halcyon> https://supernote.com/products/supernote?variant=40709925208255
30:54 <EEVBot> [Title] - Supernote A5 X & A6 X – Ratta Supernote
32:05 <steve30> What OS?
32:14 <Halcyon> It's based on Android
32:24 <Halcyon> But it's a cut down version of it
32:39 <gremlinz> heyoooooo
32:41 <Halcyon> You don't get the full Play store like on the Boox devices
32:45 <Halcyon> Hey Gremz
32:47 <Ampera> pretty slow
33:08 <Ampera> like, slower than I'd want to pay for that price
33:15 <gremlinz> low rams
33:22 <Halcyon> Doesn't need to be fast or have a buttload of memory
33:35 <Ampera> yeah but then charge me less than serious tablet money
33:36 <Halcyon> Low power and efficiency is what those devices are built for
33:50 <Halcyon> Most of the money goes into the display itself. They aren't cheap.
33:53 <Ampera> the problem is the A35 is old, not necessarily efficient
34:07 <Ampera> You can get far faster efficient CPUs for really not that much money
34:17 <Ampera> 4xA35 really seems like a let down for a product like that
34:21 <Halcyon> I'm sure the next version will have a newer CPU
34:32 * gremlinz makes a paper plane and flys it into electrohead's direction
34:43 <Halcyon> Ampera, actually this was one of the fastest devices, just shy of the reMarkable
35:02 <Halcyon> The lag between the pen and the display was something like 24ms
35:38 <Ampera> that's the display, not the CPU
35:46 <Halcyon> It's a combination
36:00 <Halcyon> There are really two main manufacturers of the panels, Wacom and Sony
36:14 <Halcyon> I'm sure there are some Chinese ones too but most tend to use those
36:32 <Halcyon> But the response and speed vary a lot depending on specs of the device, like *a lot*
37:35 <Halcyon> But yeh, reasonable enough price for the specs and features, hopefully I'll be happy with it
37:43 <Ampera> A35 is kinda a weird chip for this
37:53 <Ampera> but it looks like it's just a cut down A53
38:09 * steve30 suggests a piece of paper instead
38:31 <arch> can FR1 pcbs be etched?
38:31 <Halcyon> That's what I'm trying to get rid of Steve... all this bits of paper and unorganised notes everywhere
38:38 <Halcyon> Plus I don't want to carry around a big notebook
38:41 <arch> FR1 are laminated paper pcbs btw
38:46 <arch> not sure if they will get soggy
39:00 * steve30 passes Halcyon the stapler
39:14 <Halcyon> I have to carry a stapler around too? :P
40:59 <arch> you know what...let me stick a piece in water overnight and see if it gets soggy
41:13 * Ampera gives Halcyon a bum bag
41:19 <Halcyon> Hahah
43:19 * electrohead flies himself in gremlinz
43:32 <electrohead> Halcyon: ahh, you got the supernote, afterall
43:34 <electrohead> :p
43:38 <Halcyon> I did
50:17 * steve30 meows at his empty coffee cup
50:34 <Halcyon> I need coffee
50:45 <gremlinz> me 3
50:55 * gremlinz looks at electrohead
51:09 <electrohead> EEVBot: give coffee to gremlinz
51:09 * EEVBot drowns gremlinz in coffee
51:28 <Ampera> I need sleep
51:44 <gremlinz> just the way you like me, wet.
51:55 <electrohead> lol
52:19 <gremlinz> i'm bored
52:37 <Ampera> gremlinz, do you got ut99?
53:17 <Ampera> could also try to get a Xonotic instance going
53:23 <Ampera> even if it's just an ad-hoc one
54:18 <gremlinz> nope, but i've played Xon b4
54:38 <Ampera> electrohead, xonotic?
54:46 <Ampera> I'll throw together a quick and dirty server
55:23 <gremlinz> updating
57:56 <T3sl4> buh
58:03 <Ampera> T3zz4?
58:07 <Ampera> A xonotic?
58:17 * T3sl4 stabs Ampera with a pizzasword
58:30 * Ampera defends from T3sl4 with a diet shield
58:43 <T3sl4> D:
58:54 <Ampera> I need to -fat
00:11 <T3sl4> if it helps, it was a rapizzaier
01:00 <electrohead> xonotic sounds good, but I'm about to go grill some chicken, shortly
01:03 <Ampera> brb, znc reboot
01:17 <T3sl4> you sound good
01:38 <Halcyon> Mmmm chimkin
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02:50 <electrohead> T3sl4: you do, too
03:09 * T3sl4 plucks Halcyon
04:52 <Halcyon> :)
06:27 <jaymax> > electrohead beers jaymax
06:27 * jaymax discovers a lukewarm beer
06:27 * jaymax drinks anyway
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06:45 <Ampera> blech
06:49 <Ampera> FreeBSD jails took a dump
06:58 * Halcyon dumps on Ampera
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07:14 <Ampera> shut down jail, refuses to release vnet interfaces, have to recreate interface, then readd to bridge, then put up
07:16 <jaymax> Ampera gets eaten by a grue
07:23 Quit: Ampera ([email protected]) Changing hosts
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10:55 * electrohead films
11:15 * steve30 coffees
11:42 * gremlinz haz corfee
12:28 * Halcyon goes to get coffee
12:35 * jaymax checks the time
12:45 <jaymax> Nope, not midnight yet.
12:56 * jaymax give gremlinz coffee
13:27 * gremlinz bes corfeed
14:11 <jaymax> Highest robusta. You're welcome.😄
16:40 * electrohead looks at the robust jaymax
17:32 * jaymax shakes it
23:34 <gremlinz> i feel i want to take my alienware lappy apart give a it a good clean reapply thermal pastes etc, but it'll be a goddam mission
24:05 <Ampera> ew, alienware
24:31 <Halcyon> Just for shits an giggles gremlinz or does it need it?
24:31 <gremlinz> ew, cabbage
24:34 <Halcyon> *and
25:11 <gremlinz> a bit of both i guess
25:17 * steve30 feels more relaxed now he is coffeed
25:53 <gremlinz> it's corfeed steve30
26:47 <Halcyon> I should get my Apple IIe going again
27:38 <gremlinz> dang, old skool
28:11 <gremlinz> i got a commodore 64 i could bust out
28:47 <gremlinz> are we shootin Ampera?
29:06 <Ampera> electrohead has to eat, like a fuckin NERD
29:23 <Ampera> let me see if I can set something up tho
29:27 <Halcyon> I have a C64 somewhere too, I could fire up IRC on it
34:46 * electrohead steals Halcyon's C64
39:00 <electrohead> chicken is on the grill.
39:03 <electrohead> rice is about done.
39:05 <electrohead> yays.
44:07 <Ampera> electrohead, gremlinz Ampera's Xonotic Server
44:09 <Ampera> invite whoever
45:45 <Ampera> wtf is this
45:51 <Ampera> there's an update banner that appears in-game for me
46:36 <gremlinz> indeed
46:43 <Ampera> and I'm on the latest version too
46:51 <Ampera> as per my package manager, but xonotic reports an earlier one
47:58 Quit: Some_Person ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
47:59 <gremlinz> i dun see ur server
49:54 <Ampera> xonotic is always a pain in the ass like this
53:03 <Ampera> gremlinz, do you get a reset connection off http://ipv4.amperaa.net:26000/
53:25 <Ampera> actually, gremlinz, try now
55:02 <gremlinz> ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
55:19 <Ampera> yeah it looks like it might be working now
55:19 <gremlinz> also no go in game
55:26 <Ampera> let me restart the server then, one sec
57:26 <Ampera> gremlinz, try now
58:36 <gremlinz> Still named Ampera* ?
58:39 <Ampera> yes
58:44 <gremlinz> nup don't see
58:54 <Ampera> xonotic is such a pain in the ass, I don't get it
59:18 <jaymax> https://chat.chinwag.im/files/ce5eaf8a-279a-43bf-a124-6bfb5e1d3148/0ZWkVgyAT9atAMdf3lijdQ.jpg
59:20 <gremlinz> i *did* have an instance of it, but i think i deleted it
00:39 <Ampera> gremlinz, look now
00:41 <Ampera> I changed the port
00:47 * jaymax also pets the steve30 
00:50 <Ampera> maybe my ISP really does block the fucking quake port for some reason
01:12 * steve30 purrs at jaymax 
01:50 * jaymax chirps
02:38 <gremlinz> nope
04:14 <Ampera> and what's even worse is direct connect is broken on Xonotic too
04:22 <Ampera> has been for ages
16:54 * Halcyon pokes Ampera's port
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20:46 <Ampera> gremlinz, one last time, try now
25:52 <gremlinz> nope
26:31 <Ampera> yeah then I give up. I'm doing everything right, Xonotic is just refusing to work
26:39 <Ampera> I'll debug it some other time
26:46 <MrMobodies> Hello
26:52 <Ampera> hello MrMobodies
27:02 <MrMobodies> Very hot weather
27:10 <MrMobodies> I am exhausted from the heat
27:32 <gremlinz> nps
27:43 <gremlinz> i'll give it a shot
27:44 <MrMobodies> it was my birthday last week and as part of my birthday the pub owner allowed me to play with his speakers
27:51 <MrMobodies> the liked it so muh
27:54 <MrMobodies> they turned it into a disco
28:11 <MrMobodies> g5xKkjc
28:12 <MrMobodies> oops
28:21 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/g5xKkjc
28:22 <EEVBot> [Title] - DJ Night with improved disco sound - Album on Imgur
28:39 <MrMobodies> I built an extension thing to make it easier when they get the big speakers out
28:44 <MrMobodies> apparently that was a burned
28:47 <MrMobodies> burden
29:01 <MrMobodies> I was showing them with the sound retreival on and off
29:15 <MrMobodies> and word of mouth and they came pouring when it was meant to shut at 10
29:18 <MrMobodies> 10pm
29:28 <MrMobodies> they ended up closing at 12:30 midnight
29:53 <MrMobodies> I had a lot setbacks at first
30:00 <MrMobodies> the father brought in the wrong amp
30:18 <MrMobodies> it split the bass so he had to go 40 miles to pick the correct one
30:32 <MrMobodies> but it was 28c that night
30:37 <MrMobodies> I brought in a power fan
31:19 <MrMobodies> but they enjoyed singing on the mic, kind of ruined it and they wanted it so loud
31:33 <MrMobodies> I went home deaf for a couple of hours
31:56 <MrMobodies> it is going to be about 42c tomorrow in this area
32:29 <MrMobodies> well it's been a long time since I enjoyed much
32:56 <MrMobodies> one of the cables were broken so I bodged somethong
32:57 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/UmFCUAV.jpg
33:51 <MrMobodies> I am not really a DJ but they had no staff to run it, they were all serving behind the bar
34:25 <MrMobodies> and i was struggling to take requests as it was so loud
35:12 <MrMobodies> sorry to change the subject but noticed hosting lan games with Quake and someone has an Alienware laptop
38:44 * T3sl4 puts a hex on Ampera
40:57 <electrohead> Ampera: what server and port?
41:23 <MrMobodies> aah port testing?
42:23 <electrohead> nah, for playing xonotic
42:39 <MrMobodies> ooh wonderfull
43:02 <MrMobodies> I wish I could join you but I have switch my main stuff on and we used the air conditioner for about 4 hours
43:10 <MrMobodies> and the energu bills are high but
43:16 <MrMobodies> next month
43:21 <electrohead> ahh
43:23 <MrMobodies> we're having solar panels fitted
43:25 <electrohead> Ampera: nvm, I see it
43:26 <MrMobodies> with batteries
43:28 <MrMobodies> 10kw batteries
43:43 <MrMobodies> so I can not only go back and switch everything on and i can run more things
44:05 <MrMobodies> I have to use those energy saving plugs
44:11 <MrMobodies> with the wireless remote
44:22 <MrMobodies> just so I can save a bit of standby current
44:32 <MrMobodies> that's how bad it is
44:58 <MrMobodies> and the energy bills are going to go higher in September but by then it is not going matter
45:07 <MrMobodies> with the solar panels installed
45:21 <MrMobodies> just looked above
45:35 <MrMobodies> sorry Ampera that your ISP mayble blocking the gaming port
45:45 <MrMobodies> I'd be furious if mine did that
46:14 <MrMobodies> I remember it worked perfectly last year when I joined yours
49:13 <Halcyon> If you call them, will they unblock it?
50:41 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/6nshN7J.jpeg
50:55 <Ampera> MrMobodies, it's not. It's just Xonotic being trash
50:59 <Halcyon> Mine blocks 80, 443, 25 ,135, 137-139 and 11211 inbound by default, but you can turn that off in the customer portal
51:02 <Ampera> I am using the FreeBSD port, so maybe it just sucks
51:06 <MrMobodies> oh that's a relief
51:13 <Ampera> my ISP only blocks SMTP outbound
51:23 <Ampera> I've yet to find another port it blocks
51:31 <electrohead> Ampera: I tried joining
51:42 <Ampera> did I leave it running?
51:48 <electrohead> maybe?
51:50 <Ampera> I thought I didn't
51:54 <electrohead> oh
51:56 <electrohead> ok
52:05 <Ampera> no, and it wasn't appearing on the public list either
52:12 <Ampera> and xonotic on the arch repos is broken on top of that too
52:16 <Ampera> and on the FreeBSD repos
52:19 <Ampera> :/
52:26 <Ampera> I'll debug it later
52:28 <arch> your face is broken
52:40 <Ampera> arch, your life is broken
52:46 <arch> =')
52:52 <electrohead> it is? I'm on arch, and it runs just fine
53:03 <Ampera> electrohead, do you have a nice update nag banner?
53:22 <electrohead> uhh
53:24 <electrohead> no cluse
53:26 <Ampera> mine is stuck on 9.8.2 despite the package version being 0.8.5
53:26 <electrohead> clue*
53:42 <Ampera> and there's a floating nag banner that I had to block using a hosts entry to even see shit
53:48 <Ampera> so idfk what that's about
54:12 <Ampera> the server on FreeBSD seems to be on the same version
54:15 <Ampera> idk what the package version is on that
54:25 <Ampera> as I said, I'll debug it when I have the time to
54:30 <electrohead> yeah it says the server is 0.8.2
54:37 <MrMobodies> when I get the solar panels up I'll be happy to join your games
54:46 <electrohead> I typed your host/port in, clicked join, and I'm the only person there
54:46 <Ampera> electrohead, what server
54:48 <MrMobodies> the stuff I am using now is very slow
54:50 <Ampera> what
54:53 <MrMobodies> for that sort of thing
54:59 <electrohead> ipv4.amperaa.net:26000
55:01 <Ampera> I can't even type it in, the piece of shit lags to death
55:09 <Ampera> that's baffling
56:33 <Ampera> I couldn't even get connect working
56:44 <electrohead> "xonotic-glx" is what I use to start it up
57:11 <Ampera> I use the sdl version, I'd found both to be equally broken at times
57:19 <electrohead> and, it runs smooth as fuck for me
58:13 <Halcyon> That chicken video amuses me more than it should
58:13 <Halcyon> This one is more for T3sl4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C08MqV10AbI
58:13 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Mercedes Benz vs Jaguar commercial "Battle"
58:13 <T3sl4> me
58:13 <T3sl4> ...ow?
58:13 <Halcyon> :)
59:46 <Ampera> I'll figure it all out later
59:50 <Ampera> heading to bed, gnite
00:44 <Halcyon> Night Ampera
01:34 <electrohead> damn ok
01:41 <electrohead> it says I'm still connected, lol
02:48 <electrohead> I disconnected
03:27 <MrMobodies> it seems to work perfect when I joined last year
03:32 <MrMobodies> oh good night
03:55 <MrMobodies> I did have a bit of high latency due to the distance
04:01 <MrMobodies> but it was playable
04:04 <MrMobodies> and consistent
04:36 <MrMobodies> I got my other VOIP telephone number
04:41 <MrMobodies> joke: I am not happy with it
04:45 <DHess_US> Can't stop laughing, https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWMh5t7yZ3_S5WOvkFVS_QuRbGKYXvBszj2cibyDXO2AN8NrafELydimu2XQO8FwfNZEpOTdlaV3b0d-ATMyu7HEmvoyT6hgRfaSvW8iuszR4FfSXD-gY7lAcs7YUNMeWLw7BpNOFYmWAHLlmt_BXVtkHZaOmMKJdjkRJS9fJ8RZ_CpjY8RKGpCf37/w321-h400/m17.gif
04:52 <MrMobodies> it has 3 sixes in there
05:02 <MrMobodies> oops six's
05:06 <MrMobodies> ooooh
06:46 <MrMobodies> I see it now
06:49 <MrMobodies> the machine
07:05 <MrMobodies> Vivaldi was stopping the GIf image and it wouldn#'t save it
07:45 <MrMobodies> I see, the machine got it all backwards
08:29 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHGaW8lBlSk
08:30 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Kylie Minogue - Get Outta My Way (Official Video)
08:31 <Halcyon> Such a good song
08:35 * Halcyon turns it up
09:00 <MrMobodies> it's cooling down a bit so I am going to eat
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40:06 <electrohead> I tried playing xonitic on public servers ..
40:08 <electrohead> heh
40:19 <electrohead> being essentially new to it, I got my ass handed to me
40:27 <electrohead> spawn killing almost 100% of the time
40:30 <electrohead> fuck all that
41:32 <gremlinz> spawn campers == 0 skill
43:24 * Halcyon spawns all over electrohead 
44:32 Quit: weissbier ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
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46:45 <electrohead> I think one dude was using a mod or something
46:55 <electrohead> one shot one kill, and completely accurate
48:56 <electrohead> welp, here's one of a few
48:58 <electrohead> https://github.com/Dehyrf/xonotic_game_mod_menu
48:59 <EEVBot> [Title] - GitHub - Dehyrf/xonotic_game_mod_menu: A script that runs in the Xonotic game terminal to give weapons, ammo, health, god mode, etc. to players using it.
52:29 * Halcyon pokes electrohead 
52:34 <Halcyon> I'm handling your package :P
54:05 <Halcyon> Bargain, the shops had packs of Mi Goreng noodles for $2.50 for 5.
55:29 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
57:11 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
57:23 <Ampera> how are you doing my carefree, halcyon friend?
00:02 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/search?q=honest+us+citizen+here%2C+I+don%27t+get+why
00:32 <Halcyon> What's that all about DHess_US ?
00:48 <DHess_US> The bots Twitter doesn't have.
00:59 <Halcyon> I see
01:11 <DHess_US> I wonder if they run a deduplication process.
02:07 <electrohead> I never understood twitter
02:17 <electrohead> in my honest opinion, it's a bit fucking stupid
03:03 <DHess_US> It is, but most people like fucking stupid.
03:33 <electrohead> Lol
03:41 <Halcyon> Have you heard of Tailscale electrohead ?
04:59 * Halcyon cuddles Ampera for longer than is "normal"
05:16 <Halcyon> I'm doing well, just put some beef stew in the slow cooker, now just.... sitting.
05:29 <Ampera> that is good
05:40 <Halcyon> How are you my odd American friend
05:41 <Halcyon> ?
05:54 <electrohead> I have now
05:55 <Ampera> I am slowly enjoying an emotional breakdown I guess
05:56 <electrohead> :p
06:06 <Halcyon> Oh? What's the matter? Anything specific?
06:12 <Halcyon> Hahah, just wondering what it's about and what it does different to say OpenVPN
06:42 <Ampera> j'deteste la vie
06:47 <electrohead> "The easiest, most secure way to use WireGuard and 2FA. "
06:54 <Halcyon> Why does everything have to be "mesh" these days. *rolls eyes*
06:56 <Ampera> just suffering the same old things
07:02 <T3sl4> nice comment https://imgur.com/gallery/Xil2SEe/comment/2249198957
07:03 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
07:08 <Halcyon> I don't speak French so I had to translate
07:11 <Halcyon> *hugs*
07:19 <Ampera> honestly I feel like I'm in pain every day, but seem to have enough strength to set it aside and work past it until it eventually spills over
07:23 <Ampera> and the I start again
07:32 <Ampera> I don't speak french either
07:34 <Halcyon> Hahaha
07:36 <Halcyon> I don't pretend to understand the nuances to your life, but to me, you seem to be doing pretty darn well for someone of your age.
07:39 <Ampera> j'deteste la vie just happens to be my catchphrase
07:45 <Halcyon> Sooooo many people are deadbeats well into their 30s
07:57 <Ampera> yeah it sucks
08:06 <Ampera> it makes me feel bad for feeling bad
08:15 <Ampera> like I have everything going right, except I still feel miserable
08:19 <jaymax> How the heck are you supposed to install this thing offline (no pip sourcing) from a command line (no docker/kubernetes)? https://github.com/jpmens/mqttwarn
08:21 <EEVBot> [Title] - GitHub - jpmens/mqttwarn: Subscribe to MQTT topics (with wildcards) and notify pluggable services
08:22 <jaymax> What ever happened to the `./configure && make && make inastall` philosophy? Why do I need to have a computer directly on the internet or using some massive containter project only for the sake of installing a sub-2MB tool?
08:23 <Ampera> so just more reason to blame myself
08:50 <Halcyon> Well, I can't answer that... I suppose the appropriate question is: "What would make you happy?"
08:54 <Halcyon> (And don't say die)
09:29 <Ampera> I mean I can answer that with a non-answer, to just stop being miserable all the time
09:51 <Halcyon> Well sure, if it's as simple as that.... but I feel you would have already tried that?
10:07 <Ampera> but honestly, to simply be able to accept who I am, and be able to interact with society where I don't feel like a complete interloper
10:27 <Halcyon> Since when do you want to interact with people? People suck
10:49 <Ampera> idk, it's so strange to hate my body so much like this
11:01 <Ampera> it shouldn't matter, but for the life of me I can't make it not
11:09 <Halcyon> :(
12:27 <Halcyon> I wish you were here
12:34 <Ampera> lol you keep saying that
12:43 <Halcyon> Mostly because I want to give you a big hug for reals
12:46 <Ampera> idk what difference that would make, besides me having to lock my trousers shut
12:55 <Halcyon> And you can help me with some projects
12:59 <Halcyon> Bahahaha I wouldn't :P
14:14 <Ampera> idk, I think it's just a gradual process of me stopping to scream until I finally work my way into a place where it doesn't hurt as bad
14:29 <jaymax> Wow, I just realized I know little more about Ampera than being a wagie from Buffalo who drives a Subaru and is a twat about Linux and Thinkpads. ;^D
14:45 <Ampera> I'm not from Buffalo, so you got that wrong
14:46 <Halcyon> He's from New York state :P
14:48 <Ampera> never even been near Buffalo
14:56 <Ampera> Halcyon, Buffalo is in New York
14:59 <Ampera> just the entirely wrong side
15:04 <Halcyon> Also Linux and Thinkpad's rule jaymax
15:12 <jaymax> Of course.
15:20 <Halcyon> Ampera: Tell me about your Surface Pro... First impressions?
15:21 <Ampera> jaymax, tl;dr, gender dysphoria
15:24 <jaymax> But Ampera made it a whole level more pedantic
15:33 <Halcyon> I've been thinking of a similar tablet for cooking and such
15:35 <Ampera> Halcyon, I like it.
15:44 <jaymax> Ah
15:49 <Ampera> It's a nice large screen, sharp, crisp, smooth
15:57 <Halcyon> Windows 11?
16:00 <Ampera> keyboard is nice, I think they put carbon fiber in them now, so there's basically no deck flex
16:07 <Halcyon> Oh interesting
16:09 <jaymax> Did I ever talk about the time I cut out one of my balls?
16:10 <Ampera> Yes, but apparently Linux is available with support for everything but the cameras
16:19 <Ampera> jaymax, nope
16:25 <Halcyon> jaymax, um... no I did not believe you did. What the hell!?
16:27 <Ampera> that sounds like a Nothing\ story
16:36 <Halcyon> Bahahaha I know just what you mean Ampera
16:48 <Ampera> The most mutilationy thing I've done to myself is take hormones for a year or two so far
17:24 <Ampera> Halcyon, the SP8 is made out of aluminum now instead of magnesium. It's a heavier tablet, because it's larger (13" instead of 12"), but it feels less dense
17:29 <jaymax> Well, there is a reason why I'm crazy and at that time, I was struggling in part of what gender roles mean.
17:30 <Ampera> similar overall texture though
17:40 <electrohead> lol
18:16 <Halcyon> jaymax, this seems to be a "common" theme among intellectuals.
18:22 <Ampera> lol
18:33 <Halcyon> I think T3sl4 is the straightest acting smart guy I know
18:40 <Halcyon> And even then...
18:46 <Ampera> bullshit
18:49 <Ampera> he doesn't act straight at all
19:01 <jaymax> That event led to 16+ years of anyipsychotics, but depite being stuck in my own head too much....
19:16 <Halcyon> He acts straight, he's just a prick tease
19:26 * T3sl4 licks Ampera
19:26 <Ampera> for me, it hasn't really been a struggle with gender roles specifically
19:29 <Ampera> but I guess it's all part of it
19:45 <jaymax> ....I've learned that being a cynical bastard about what others thing of you is the shittiest stupid thing to ever consider.
20:17 <jaymax> wait, reword:
20:19 <Halcyon> jaymax, can I just clarify.... how many testicles do you currently possess?
20:24 <Ampera> lol
20:45 <jaymax> ....I've learned that fearing what others thing of you is the shittiest stupid thing to ever consider.
20:49 <jaymax> Halcyon: One
21:00 <T3sl4> one ball? literally hitler!
21:01 * jaymax didn't start with three
21:01 <Halcyon> OK, so you were actually successful
21:04 <Ampera> jaymax, I can sympathize with that
21:09 <jaymax> Sure why not?
21:15 <Halcyon> Just asking?
21:21 <Halcyon> You might have stopped part way through?
21:29 <Ampera> a lot of the struggle personally of the question of if I should attempt a transition is just dealing with how other people treat me
21:31 <Halcyon> But what you said above is absolutely correct
21:42 <Ampera> but really I've realized that it's not how about other people see me, it's always been about how I see myself.
22:00 <Halcyon> That kind of shit is rife, especially in the gay community. We expect that only those with muscles and huge penises are desirable.
22:05 <Halcyon> In reality, that's not the case
22:22 <jaymax> Halcyon: my "Sure why not?" was for T3sl4 but to your question: the blood loss stopped me at one.
22:25 <Ampera> yeah, you can be like Halcyon and be an absolute pencilweight
22:44 <Halcyon> pencilweight?
22:44 <jaymax> Cutting a nerve is not an easy task BTW
22:55 <T3sl4> i can't imagine
23:03 <Ampera> I can, just barely.
23:23 <Ampera> at a point where you just feel so numb, until you destroy yourself and you feel it all
23:30 <Ampera> it's never happened to me, but I can imagine it
23:53 <Ampera> not sure how close I've ever gotten to doing something stupid, but I've managed to stay far enough away to help me this far
24:14 <Ampera> idk, I think the thing for me is that I feel like I want to be with someone, but I just can't the way I am
24:20 <Ampera> it's something almost nobody can understand
24:36 <Ampera> people never think about how they'd see themselves in a relationship, but for me, I just can't fit in the way that I am
24:38 <T3sl4> be comfortable with yourself before getting comfortable with others? sorta thing
24:41 <Halcyon> You realise though Ampera, I like you because of the way you are (even though you're a stubborn asshole sometimes).
24:59 <Halcyon> If you were different, you'd probably blend in with every other cockspank
25:09 <Ampera> Halcyon, so long as you realize the more I act like I hate someone the more I secretly like them
25:22 <Ampera> I think the most important thing for any person is to be unique
25:24 <Halcyon> I do now
25:27 <Ampera> otherwise what is the point of living
26:04 <Halcyon> Most people aren't unique though. So many people just try to be carbon copies of others, everything from the way they speak to the way they dress... with varying degrees of success
26:35 <Ampera> T3sl4, jaymax, basically, I've summed it up like this: Being gay is about how you feel attracted to someone. If you're straight, doing it with another man just doesn't work out in your mind. If you're gay, the same for a woman
26:43 <jaymax> Ampera: this might be a bad take but I do sympathize with going through a transition because of chaging you others treat you. The potential bad take part is the "how I see myself" reason is often an itch that cannot be properly scratched, much like the Joan Rivers problem. Going from "I'm living a lie" to "I'm living an elaborate lie".
26:52 <Halcyon> As Moss says "I like being weird. Weird's all I've got."
27:00 <jaymax> ^
27:04 <Ampera> For me, it's about how I am. Relationships are a 2 part question, and I think how you see yourself in it is just as important as how you see the other person
27:19 <jaymax> Fair
27:26 <Ampera> jaymax, that's a damn good statement
27:32 <Ampera> and really that's what I've realized a long time ago
27:39 <Ampera> that my only option is to suffer, or to just lie to myself
27:43 <jaymax> It does reflect back in self esteem on how others treat you.
27:47 <T3sl4> also if you just don't like people, you might be ace or whatever :P
27:52 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
27:58 <jaymax> And back out to the world, too.
28:05 <Ampera> I absolutely have a sexual attraction towards people
28:07 <Ampera> I'm bisexual
28:13 <Ampera> but it's only from a female perspective
28:27 <T3sl4> oh, neat
28:38 <Ampera> the insinuation being that the primary difference between male and female is perspective of sexuality
28:52 <Ampera> The reason why gender roles even exist is because the bleed over that sexuality has into society
28:53 <Halcyon> I just like peen. I don't like to over-complicate things :P
29:05 <T3sl4> Halcyon: so you'd go for femcock? :P
29:15 <Halcyon> Mmm, no
29:27 <Halcyon> I dislike boobs. They cancel each other out.
29:36 <Ampera> I could see myself happy with either a man or a woman.
29:38 <T3sl4> hm
29:55 <Ampera> I like both body types, and enjoy dickies just as much as tiddies
30:18 <Halcyon> I do like a good ass too. It's not something I can describe, but I know it when I see it
30:20 <Ampera> so long as the tiddies are on me and the dickies stay in me, not on me
30:40 <Ampera> it's rare that I like ass. I think I like hair and faces the most
30:53 <Halcyon> I like hair, in the right places
30:55 <Ampera> just overall body shape
30:55 <Halcyon> Not in the ass
30:59 <T3sl4> lol
31:08 * T3sl4 rubs his beard all over Halcyon's ass
31:09 * Ampera unleashes a welcome mat for Halcyon 
31:25 <Halcyon> My biggest attraction is towards people with nice teeth and nice fingernails.
31:43 <Ampera> welp I'm out
31:47 <T3sl4> i mean, to be fair, hair /in/ ass would be a lot like beach sex... sand gets everywhere, unpleasant etc
32:02 <Halcyon> T3sl4, been there, done that, you're right... it's not nice.
32:07 <Halcyon> I was finding sand for days
32:20 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
32:36 <Ampera> (that was in relation to what Halcyon said, I am still here)
32:38 <Ampera> but thx
32:40 <jaymax> The weirdest hangup I have about transition (especially considering what I done to myself ages ago) is the desire to alter phsysiology for what is in effect gender expression. I mean, the statement "gender is a social construct" doesn't imply that physicality matters in gender choice. It seems like a rabbithole to me.
32:42 * Ampera kisses T3sl4 
32:52 * T3sl4 beards Ampera's face
33:00 <Ampera> jaymax, that's why I've made the connection to sexuality
33:28 <T3sl4> jaymax: that's a good point, that probably a lot miss
33:52 <T3sl4> but also, because society is still very concerned with sex, perhaps a lot are trying to fit into that, which is still very shallow and physical
34:02 <Ampera> I think that's what grinds so much when people see transgenderism as just gay 2: electric boogaloo
34:06 <jaymax> Indeed. It's something I've rarely mention to anyone, and given how charged the topic gets, I get even more hesitant to mention it.
34:12 <Ampera> idk
34:27 <Halcyon> Ampera, you still on Signal?
34:32 <Ampera> Halcyon, why
34:41 <Halcyon> Going to send you a pic
34:44 <Halcyon> (not of my cock)
34:45 <Ampera> yeah I'm still on it
34:45 <T3sl4> ooer
34:48 <T3sl4> aw
35:33 <Halcyon> My mate took that in the city yesterday
35:40 <Halcyon> Most people don't give a fuck
35:52 <Ampera> no I'm aware
35:55 <Ampera> I have people in my life like that
36:08 <Ampera> idk, I think I just hope I can do a better job I guess :P
36:17 <Halcyon> Bahahaha
36:20 <Halcyon> I'm sure you could
36:38 <Halcyon> Start with the hair
36:43 <Ampera> done
36:50 <Halcyon> Like.... all of it :P
36:52 <Ampera> done
36:58 <Halcyon> *smirks*
37:03 <Ampera> no really, my hair already looks good
37:12 <Halcyon> I haven't seen your hair recently
37:18 <Ampera> it's as thick as armor, but it's probably the better looking part of me
37:25 <Halcyon> Thick hair is good :)
37:30 <Halcyon> Nice hair is important
37:32 <Ampera> I've been teetering on getting them to laser off my beard
37:43 <Halcyon> A mate of mine laser'd his ass
37:48 <Halcyon> Not sure if I'd go that far
37:54 <Ampera> rest of my body kinda doesn't have a lot of hair
38:04 <Ampera> that's probably the HRT's doing
38:16 <Halcyon> Maybe, maybe not
38:30 <Ampera> idk, I guess I'm just gonna keep trying to power through
38:44 <Ampera> it all just makes my life so much more complicated, and makes it harder to focus on the things I want to focus on
38:57 <jaymax> Halcyon: asshair is probably the only thing i'd have lasered off
39:00 <Ampera> I can never really have a day where I don't have the feeling in the back of my mind that it's not right
39:06 <jaymax> cleaner wipes
39:11 <Ampera> lol
39:19 <Halcyon> I just Veet/shave
39:34 <Ampera> I shave my body hair like once every two weeks or so
39:41 <Ampera> that's about how long it takes to grow back noticeably
39:45 <Halcyon> Mine is every few months
39:47 <Ampera> about a month or two for it to reach max length
39:57 * jaymax tugs at them when they're long enough to do so
40:12 <Halcyon> If your hair is long enough to get stuck in your foreskin, it's too long
40:38 <Ampera> one thing I really need to do is lose weight
40:44 <Ampera> like 20-40lbs of it
40:48 <jaymax> foreskin getting stick in asshair? I'd say so!
41:03 <Halcyon> Not ass hair jaymax
41:04 <Ampera> I'm not particularly fat, but male vs female fat patterns, imo, get more distinctive the fatter you are
41:07 <Ampera> and it'd be nice to be thin
41:07 <jaymax> hehe
41:42 <Ampera> my head hair can indeed reach my foreskin if I look down
42:11 <Halcyon> Be careful, can be like a Chinese finger trap :P
42:17 <Ampera> welp
42:21 <Ampera> I think I like this tablet
42:28 <Ampera> way nicer than my ideapad
42:32 <jaymax> Didn't that happen to Brian Warner?
42:41 <Halcyon> No idea who that is
42:46 <jaymax> (aka Marilyn Manson)? lol
42:54 <Halcyon> Oh I don't know?
43:00 <Ampera> and btw, jaymax, if you'd ever want to talk 1:1 in a more private setting, I'd be up for it.
43:18 <Ampera> I always appreciate understanding people's different perspectives, it helps me better understand my own position
43:22 <Ampera> all up to you, of course
43:33 <jaymax> Old joke that he had a couple ribs removed so he could suck his own cock
43:47 <Halcyon> I would have thought he was cut anyway
44:45 <jaymax> Ampera: I appreciate the offer - I'm likely not going deeper in thoughts more that what I did the past half-hour.
44:54 <Ampera> no problem
45:17 <Halcyon> I should hang my washing out
45:19 <Halcyon> *sigh*
45:25 <Ampera> I think I'm gonna try to get to sleep
45:33 <Ampera> I'll still be sorta-kinda here for the next 30-60 minutes
45:40 <Halcyon> Same
46:59 * T3sl4 dissociates Ampera a lil
54:14 <jaymax> Oh, one thing I'll add to my story: the shit I put myself through half-a-lifetime ago was that coming-of-age trying to find your place in the world existential crisis that every 17-21 year old will experience in some degree.
54:37 <jaymax> Probably obvious from before but noting it just in case.
57:34 <jaymax> The after-school-special-esque book/film "It's kind of a funny story" made me realize how common it is, and now see early 20-somethings absorbed in games and social media as people still struggling to find purpose.
58:00 <DHess_US> I wish Segan had lived to see the first results from the James Webb Telescope.
00:34 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.imgur.com/Q9k7Epk.jpeg
01:34 <jaymax> LMAO
02:07 <jaymax> Wait until you turn 40 T3sl4
02:32 * T3sl4 piles jaymax
04:14 <jaymax> Hmm, my first prostate exam was a few years ago because of a couple risk factors
09:51 <T3sl4> colonoscopy yet?
11:45 <jaymax> Yes
12:06 <jaymax> Other reasons than age, again.
12:46 <T3sl4> oof
12:50 <T3sl4> but, good to have it checked
12:56 <T3sl4> (both of em)
13:05 <T3sl4> in other news, https://imgur.com/gallery/W5z76ZK
13:06 <EEVBot> [Title] - Life of Smudge - Day 405 - Album on Imgur
13:15 * jaymax is a diagnostic nightmare since the pneumonias swiss cheesed the lungs 15 years ago
13:38 <T3sl4> also oof
13:54 <T3sl4> is that something that makes lasting biochemical (blood tests etc) things tho?
14:31 <Halcyon> These beans made me farty
18:49 <jaymax> Other than the most-effective antipsychotic at the time brought on heavy acid reflux and trashed my immunoglobulins (theoretically - that drug is known to wipe out white blood cells but what happened to me slowly was unexpected to understate it), the bulk of the testing went away after switching and marginal tests mean nothing important.
20:52 <T3sl4> neuro drugs are still a very weird matter, poor specificity, lots of nasty side effects
22:02 <jaymax> I was born with weak lungs and am slightly anemic independent of good iron stores. Probably an oxygen connection between the two but it's not an important thing prognosis-wise nor one treatable, either.
22:47 <jaymax> Yeah I have an unpopular opinion about psychotropics
24:15 <jaymax> Best as a short term remedy to pick apart underlying issues on a better foundation, but the common practice is to dose people into death.
27:58 <jaymax> Also, once I stopped taking them (followed by people in that slow process I purposefully made slower), I eventually needed to start a blood pressure regimen.
27:58 <jaymax> A dulled mood is a way to manage blood pressure - or on the flip side - a high blood pressure is predominantly stress represented physically.
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49:34 * Halcyon hugs T3sl4 
51:10 * electrohead yawns and films
57:28 <Halcyon> Morning sunshine :)
57:34 <Halcyon> What you doing up?
58:40 <Halcyon> Hey electrohead, I saw this dog at the shops today: https://imgur.com/a/GrRuvSx
58:41 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
58:49 <Halcyon> He has the most apathetic look I've seen
59:03 <Halcyon> No fucks given at all
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02:26 <Zsjoelfir> the 'nings.
02:30 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Zsjoelfir
02:47 <Halcyon> Hello Zsjoelfir
03:47 <electrohead> Lol
03:57 <electrohead> and, I fell asleep early, so now I'm awake early
04:04 <Halcyon> Silly :P
04:41 <Halcyon> Phil and are going shopping for your beers tomorrow.
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05:06 <Zsjoelfir> hi Hercion
07:51 <electrohead> oh?
08:51 <Halcyon> What kind do you like? I know nothing about beer
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22:18 <electrohead> I'm mainly into IPA's
22:29 <electrohead> however, they can get expensive
22:32 <electrohead> heh
53:14 <Zsjoelfir> EEVBot convert 2.5 imperial tons to metric tons
53:14 <EEVBot> Zsjoelfir: The result is Invalid metric tons
53:20 <Zsjoelfir> perfect, thanks EEVBot
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11:23 <steve30> hi
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16:25 <Halcyon> Hahaha
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22:26 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon's keyboard
58:49 * Halcyon hands electrohead a class of Big Clive's carbonated wine
58:50 <Halcyon> https://odysee.com/@bigclivedotcom:0d/how-much-co2-can-cheap-wine-absorb:4
58:51 <EEVBot> [Title] - How much CO2 can cheap wine absorb?
58:54 <Halcyon> *gass
58:57 <Halcyon> *glass
59:59 <K> hello vinyls
00:07 <Halcyon> Hello foam
01:42 * K percolates
13:10 <Nero_wrk> monin
19:47 * DogWomble engages in a poeer to peer greeting exchange
24:01 * Halcyon pokes electrohead awake
26:44 <DogWomble> are you poking people again?
27:35 <Halcyon> Always
27:38 <Nero_wrk> Man latex is such a mess sometimes
28:24 <Nero_wrk> can't compile my files -> make backup and remove half of the file (the part I typed since I compiled last) -> Can compile -> restore the backupa and compile -> No issues
28:59 <K> latex can be a rather hot pile of doodoo
29:09 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
29:22 <DogWomble> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJazOY6jrzQ
29:22 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: LEGO CHEESE STEAK / Lego in real life - Stop Motion Cooking ＆ ASMR
29:30 <Nero_wrk> if only my university provided a template for InDesign
29:33 <DogWomble> somebody spent far too much time making that
42:24 <Halcyon> Could have done without the masticating noises at the end
44:50 <K> don't be such a prude
45:21 <Halcyon> I just don't want to hear people chewing
45:52 <K> what about slupring the soup ?
46:49 <Halcyon> I don't like it either. But I can tolerate it if they are in Japan
06:02 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Mri4Q06kTZQ
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14:34 <watcher> Hello emoo's
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25:20 <DogWomble> that really needs to be put to yakkety sax
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46:31 <Halcyon> electrohead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRnBb7493Xo
46:32 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: SMOKED BEEF (Better & Easier than Brisket?)
46:36 <Halcyon> Beefs
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47:26 * K beefs Halcyon
48:00 <Halcyon> \o/
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33:28 * Ampera kisses Ha
33:32 <Ampera> buh
33:41 <Ampera> no good flaky fuck :/
35:22 <K> potty mouth
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37:37 <Ampera> K ey fuck you man
39:27 * K spanks Ampera
39:37 <K> with a big wooden spoon
41:54 <steve30> hi
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48:18 * Ampera hugs steve30 
48:22 <Ampera> how are you doing steve friend?
49:07 <steve30> i woke up
49:11 <steve30> now i'm having coffee
01:03 <steve30> today I have to edit the video of Saturday's Rwanda protest
01:33 <Ampera> I'm still waking up
01:43 <steve30> I did it in Long GOP mode which is not very editable, so I think i'll have to transcode them into something else
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21:19 <Ampera> hey Zsjoelfir I'm on your client :D
21:41 <Ampera> hexchat on windows kept trying to take a dump, so now I am on AdiIRC
21:45 <Ampera> it's okay looking
21:51 <Zsjoelfir> Is that so? :D
21:52 <Zsjoelfir> ah
22:02 <Zsjoelfir> yeah, I like it quite a bit, it worked flawless for me ever since
23:35 <Ampera> how are you doing Zsjoelfir
24:28 <Zsjoelfir> shitty. headache of doom because of this stupid heat
25:16 <Ampera> huh
25:28 <Ampera> I've never gotten a headache from heat, are you sure you're not going through heat stroke?
29:34 <K> yeah
30:18 <Ampera> Like, if you're feeling light headed in the heat, it could be seriously dangerous
30:23 <Ampera> drink cool water if you can
38:50 <Zsjoelfir> I am completely certain t hat it is a heatstroke, as I always get those if temperature is over 30C
39:21 <Zsjoelfir> and I have been drinking since this morning already like..... 3 to 4 liters
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43:40 <K> blood pressure going cray-cray
44:03 <Zsjoelfir> nah, thats roughly ok
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49:32 * steve30 sausages
53:42 * Ampera hugs Zsjoelfir with an ice pack
53:47 <Ampera> hope you feel better later
54:14 <Zsjoelfir> I will. its always that way
54:17 <Zsjoelfir> thanks :)
57:11 <electrohead> o/
57:20 <rust2> oioioioioooo
57:37 <Kuschelpony> whinny?
58:02 <rust2> hey!
59:24 <Ampera> good morning friends
59:33 <rust2> moooornings
00:55 <Ampera> how are you are you rust2
01:50 <rust2> oh, it is morning. it is a horrible time
02:07 <rust2> just trying to start my brain
03:09 * steve30 pets Zsjoelfir 
03:40 * Zsjoelfir enjoys the pettiveness
08:26 <steve30> These ridiculously big files out of my new camcorder really make me like my old DV tape cameras :)
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28:48 <Zsjoelfir> how big is ridiculous big?
29:34 * Ampera holds hands outstretched
29:36 <Ampera> Thiiiiiiis big.
29:43 <Zsjoelfir> woah!
29:48 <Ampera> yeah, big
30:42 <steve30> For Intraframe, 200Mbps. For LongGOP, 100Mbps
31:19 <Ampera> what camera do you have again?
31:25 <Ampera> my 4k30 handycam tops out at 100mbps
31:26 <steve30> Panasonic HC-X2000
31:54 <Ampera> how much did you pay for it
32:05 <Ampera> if you say < 1000USD equivalent I am going to cry slightly
32:31 <steve30> It 200Mbps at 4K. Then various HD modes ranging from 200Mbps h264 Intra 422 10bit, down to AVCHD <20Mbps 420 8 bit.
32:43 <Ampera> nice
32:55 <Ampera> It looks like a really nice camera
33:13 <steve30> I paid about £1200. Managed to get a good deal on a refurbished one from panasonic's ebay shop.
33:20 <Ampera> still
33:23 <Ampera> that's a steal
33:28 <Ampera> I paid 1000 bucks new for my AX-53
33:47 <Ampera> Is it fixed lens? What's the battery life like? SD media?
34:02 <steve30> Those Sony's are tempting, but I'm somewhat reliant on manual controls and audio inputs
34:21 <steve30> Fixed lens. Battery is good for about 5 hours. 2x SDXC slots.
35:08 <steve30> The major flaw is that the aperture closes down significantly when zoomed in, but that is someone normal on a camera at that price point/size.
35:46 <Ampera> Similar battery life to mine, and mine is fixed lens.
35:57 <Ampera> I do agree, the complete lack of any manual controls on the handycam is its biggest flaw
36:13 <Ampera> Does it have active stabilization? That's probably my handycam's coolest feature
38:00 <steve30> Yes, and its very good
38:21 <steve30> I've a suspicion it might not be as good as the Sony, but its good enough for me.
43:05 <steve30> OK, It seems to key to using these h264 files in Kdenlive is to transcode them into DnxHD
52:58 <electrohead> o/
53:37 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
53:48 <Ampera> steve30, That's bizarre, but a common theme.
54:09 <Ampera> h264 really is not conducive to editing by its very nature, It seems weird that kdenlive would be incapable of using it though
54:18 <Ampera> well, outside the fact that kdenlive is unstable garbage :P
54:59 <steve30> Kdenlive reads them fine, in fact, it will read anything
55:08 <steve30> Its just too slow to edit them.
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