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00:59 <Breathe> I'm
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01:06 <Breathe> Still laughing a little about that.
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02:10 <Breathe> electrohead, I mean they could have done better with the bursts and compensation
02:25 <Breathe> but for a home rigged unit, presumably, that's not too bad, actually.
02:59 <Breathe> I am still waiting on those neato energy packed lithium air batteries.
03:36 <Breathe> I was looking at powering a tiny microcontroller with a nuclear battery
03:43 <Breathe> And then I was like, no wait, you're drunk
03:46 <Breathe> Don't buy that
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05:14 <Breathe> Like drip charge to the actual battery.
05:21 <Breathe> Anyway.
05:51 <Breathe> I think those new uh
06:00 <Breathe> bioreactor things are pretty cool.
12:10 <Breathe> Oh it's too late in australia.
12:36 <Breathe> Bouncer.
12:43 <Ampera> throw me a version
12:51 <Ampera> lol, empty version
12:55 <Breathe> Innit
12:56 <Breathe> Lmao
13:05 <Breathe> I swear, it's mirc
13:12 <Ampera> you can see my full irc stack if you want
13:18 <Ampera> I hide basically nothing
13:24 <Breathe> I don't care, I just wanted to figure out the time
13:29 <Ampera> I run about 3 1/2 clients and a ZNC
13:36 <Breathe> Yeh, I figured.
13:46 <Breathe> No, I just wanted to know the time.
14:09 <Ampera> don't you own a clock?
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58:48 <jaymax> Why own a clock? Just shove a stick into the ground and watch the shadow.
00:52 <electrohead> lol
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17:01 <K> i read it as "why clown a cock" and was thoroughly confused
21:23 <DHess_US> Two microcontrollers were using the same clown clock when one asked the other, "Is the time funny?"
27:37 <electrohead> K: yeah me too lol
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58:58 * arch pokes T3sl4 in the eyes and nyuk-nyuks menacingly
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02:18 * electrohead films
02:50 <jaymax> Oh, wise guy eh???
03:00 <arch> nyuk nyuk nyuk!
03:20 <arch> can o peas
03:22 * jaymax slaps head from behind
03:53 * arch pours hot water through a raw chicken and gives jaymax a bowl of chicken soup
04:30 * jaymax adds a little bat liver.
04:53 <arch> *corona intensifies*
18:41 * electrohead adds rice
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23:00 * jaymax barley's it up
34:07 * DHess_US slaps the top of the raw chicken.
34:15 <DHess_US> You can get so many diseases from this bad boy.
36:05 <DHess_US> Obligatory, https://youtu.be/ph_vE5_T7mQ
36:06 <EEVBot> [url] Absolute Genius - YouTube | youtu.be
45:00 <DHess_US> Ocean covers 2/3rds of the Earth, right?
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32:53 <electrohead> https://unit42.paloaltonetworks.com/digium-phones-web-shell/
32:55 <EEVBot> [url] Digium Phones Under Attack: Insight Into the Web Shell Implant | unit42.paloaltonetworks.com
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35:50 <Nothing\> yay all of my seeds i planted sprouted
36:40 <Nothing\> except i damaged the one because i planted another one in it after one of them sprouted because i figured if one sprouted, but the other 2 haven't then they probably won't. But I guess late bloomer is a bit more of a literal phrase than i realized.
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47:01 <Ampera> eevbot ping
47:04 <Ampera> !ping
47:04 <EEVBot> Ampera: Pong!
48:13 <jaymax> Pesto!
48:26 <jaymax> https://chat.chinwag.im/files/9fb98b9b-f562-4e4c-967a-dd477f97f5cc/NjwK9vA2Qsalt6va_BQLZQ.jpg
49:34 <steve30> hi
49:59 <jaymax> Hey steve30 how's that heat wave?
50:09 <steve30> tepid today
50:23 <coppice> jaymax: that's so last few days
50:40 <jaymax> Good to hear, then.
51:07 * steve30 feels like crap
51:17 <coppice> jaymax: Its 15C outside right now
51:19 <steve30> I don't know whether to attempt some food or not
52:08 * jaymax slides over some homemade thyme pesto and a slice of sourdough bread.
03:19 <Nothing\> steve30, HOT ENOUGH FOR YA?!
03:27 <Nothing\> lol sorry, i just couldn't resist
03:36 <Nothing\> you too coppice
03:48 <Nothing\> are you also roasting like a christmas goose?
04:59 <steve30> i popped out to the shops to buy some chocolate cookies earlier
05:06 <steve30> so i'm just nibbling on those
05:10 <Nothing\> they've got the same type of weather in vancouver atm, and here actually although i'm blissfully unaware with my air con. But I saw in vancouver, the city has misting stations set up all over the place, where people can just stand in front of a spigot and literally get a face full of mist. I just hope they don't run all the time as I had initially imagined.
05:17 <Nothing\> steve30, you have air con?
05:22 <steve30> I can't bring myself to eat more than just nibbling
05:28 <Nothing\> i wouldn't imagine many brits have
05:41 <Nothing\> maybe further south, i dunno
05:48 <steve30> I do, had it put in in 2020
05:57 <steve30> but its not common in houses
05:58 <Nothing\> the isle of wight or something
05:59 <Nothing\> heh
06:15 <Nothing\> steve30, yeah i wouldn't imagine it is. And i bet central air is just unheard of.
06:43 <Nothing\> which is basically like a furnace. But instead of a furnace you have a giant air con unit that works for your whole house
06:44 <steve30> We tend to have hot water based central heating here
06:55 <Nothing\> connects to your vents just the same as a furnace. Controlled by your thermostat
07:50 <Nothing\> and outside you have this big box with a fan and a heat exchanger on it that's about got the same footprint as a fridge, but is only maybe 2-3 feet high. With most of that height being because they're suspended about a foot off the ground for some reason
08:10 <Nothing\> i just remember in the summer as akid I used to put my face into the fan and talk like darth vader
08:15 <Nothing\> or throw stuff into it
08:24 <Nothing\> water, small rocks, etc
09:00 <Nothing\> steve30, ugh i had hot water heat in my one apartment and it was horrible
09:30 <Nothing\> not very warm at all, i had to supplement it with my oven and/or space heater
10:05 * steve30 has loaded up on sleeping pills in the hope of nodding off for a while
10:15 <Nothing\> diphenhydramine?
10:21 <steve30> yup
10:28 <Nothing\> those aren't the greatest for sleep
10:45 <Nothing\> btw be warned, it is associated with increased risk of dementia with regular use
11:14 <Nothing\> obviously in older people, but it could very well put you at greater risk when you're older if you take it at your age. Though the verdict's still out on that, I say better safe than sorry.
11:25 <Nothing\> But I see nothing wrong with taking 25mg every so often
11:31 <Nothing\> even 50mg if needbe
11:50 <Nothing\> steve30, truth be told i actually "got high" on them when i was a teenager
12:17 <Nothing\> which by get high, i mean i literally poisoned myself with them to induce a hallucinogenic state which felt pretty much like a fever dream.
12:21 <Nothing\> and was just as fun
12:59 <Nothing\> took 19 of them as i recall. it was decades ago.
13:41 <Nothing\> it's just confusing because it gives you REAL hallucations. Not just visual disturbance like trippy patterns and morphing shapes etc.
13:54 <steve30> last time i really overdid it on them i just got an incredibly dry mouth and struggled to go to the toilet
14:39 <Nothing\> no, you'll see a friend randomly materialize into your room, who you'll then proceed to have a 5-10 minute conversation with. Even doing things like sharing food, sharing cigarettes, or even bumming a cigarette off of them. With no idea that anything is even amiss. You don't even remember you took anything.
15:00 <Nothing\> it's scary because there's 0 control. I read a story of a guy who burnt his house down and lost his cat on the stuff
15:19 <Nothing\> steve30, yeah that's bad news man
15:32 <Nothing\> seriously keep it to 2, you won't get better results in terms of sleep if you take more
15:36 <Nothing\> just more side effects like that
15:46 <Nothing\> but if the difficulty urinating happens again, a few tips
16:12 <Nothing\> sitting helps a great deal, I used to find it helped if I did something to take my mind off of it like reading but that stopped working with time.
17:22 <Nothing\> But what works for me now every time, because i have urinary retention from other things, is I do this breathing thing where i'll exhale a bit, and just hold my breath as long as i can. Until my body's panicking for fresh air. And something about the adrenaline release causes my inner urinary sphincter to relax (presumably)
17:58 <Nothing\> i just know that sphincter exists only in men, it's not consciously controlled and the relaxation of it (being a smooth muscle) has to do with adrenaline in some manner.
18:26 <Nothing\> this is just speculative though. Aside from the fact that it works literally 100% of the time no matter how bad it's ever gotten.
18:51 <Nothing\> it's just unfortunate I had to endure around a dozen catheters before figuring it out. I even had one in for 3 days.
19:39 <Nothing\> but after having a full bladder for 16 hours and not being able to do anything about it, and the situation just getting worse, I would go into the ER and literally beg them for one. It was that bad.
20:19 <Nothing\> not to mention, that's a scary situation to be in. Especially when, in my case, I was tripping really hard on a drug similar to ketamine
21:32 <Nothing\> but now i have the problem because of being on methadone. It causes smooth muscle paralysis so it can also cause difficulty urinating and some other related symptoms to smooth muscle paralysis. Like difficulty swallowing. At least once a day something goes "down the wrong tube"
22:18 <Nothing\> i'm just waiting for the day I get aspiration pneumonia. Which incidentally, was the finaly proverbial nail in my grandfather's coffin. Thoughg he was in hospital for something else and was on his way out either way.
22:22 <Nothing\> rip
26:18 <steve30> i want to go out tomorrow but i don't know if i'll manage
27:00 * Ampera throws some cumin at Nothing\ 
51:07 <Nothing\> lol Ampera that's weird
51:40 <Nothing\> my mum just showed me a picture of that festival in india where they throw colored powders at eachother and it was a group of people throwing turmeric at eachother
51:49 <Nothing\> which is related to cumin somehow
52:09 <Nothing\> i'm not sure how though, maybe different part of the same plant. Like mace and nutmeg.
52:09 <jaymax> Nothing\: incline the headboard to avoid reflux causing aspiration pneumonias
52:23 <Nothing\> jaymax, i'm standing when it happens
52:37 <Nothing\> unless i'm in a centrifuge you can't get more inclined than that
52:43 <jaymax> Its worse if asleep tho
52:53 <Nothing\> yeah but i only get it when i'm awake
53:37 <jaymax> Tilt chin down when swallowing fluids, too.
53:45 <Nothing\> hey, how do i get an ide in python?
54:00 <Nothing\> like, i know the language itself comes with some sort of ide but all i keep finding are shells
54:13 <jaymax> Step one, toss scorpion SCSI
54:16 <Nothing\> which, sure i could write a script and run it from the shell
54:24 <Nothing\> toss what?
54:38 <Nothing\> i know those words but that doesn't make any sense
54:52 <Nothing\> i just want to know how to use the ide that comes with python by default
55:03 <Nothing\> as in how to open it
55:05 <Nothing\> what it's called
55:06 <jaymax> Oops, toss all Seagate barracuda SCSI drives
55:08 <Nothing\> etc
55:20 <Nothing\> lol
56:15 <Nothing\> okay found it
56:40 <Ampera> Nothing\, how are you doing fren?
56:42 <Nothing\> apparently from the shell you have to open a new file then it opens it in the ide
56:47 <Nothing\> i'm doing alright
56:52 <Nothing\> you?
57:03 <Ampera> J'amie la vie
00:20 <Ampera> I am kinda feeling pretty alright.
00:36 <Ampera> I was chatting with that Breathe guy, electrohead's friend, and he's really fucking cool
00:39 <Ampera> we talked for hours
00:52 <Ampera> kinda lightened up my day.
05:53 <jaymax> Why ruin that by talking to Canucks then?
06:09 <Ampera> Because I am doing so good, even you fucks can't bring me down :D
06:26 <jaymax> Sweet
07:26 * jaymax goes find someone else to day-ruin
08:57 <jaymax> But before I go, enjoy some flowers.
09:07 <jaymax> https://chat.chinwag.im/files/32d61e54-866b-4ce3-b934-1c4a06150a3f/ASfMmxbwR_GwTAfYh6YyHg.jpg
09:24 <Ampera> <3
09:27 <Ampera> nice colour
09:39 <jaymax> Thanks!
30:01 <electrohead> lol
30:03 <electrohead> o/
30:21 <electrohead> so, I'm officially done for the day
30:25 <electrohead> fucking yay
30:38 <electrohead> been going and going since 8 am, organizing, cleaning, yard work, etc
30:44 <electrohead> it's hot as balls out
34:26 <Ysjoelfir> its pretty nice and cool already
34:32 <Ysjoelfir> even though its just 0030
36:38 * electrohead hugs the Ysjoelfir
37:35 * Ysjoelfir heads the electro
39:29 * Ysjoelfir fills electrohead with grey terracotta that has an item name of grAy_terracotta
40:47 <electrohead> lol
40:58 <electrohead> I haven't been on the minecraft server in two days or so
41:03 <Ysjoelfir> :O
41:14 <Ysjoelfir> shame on you
41:17 <electrohead> I have friends coming here tonight, from pennsylvania
41:26 <electrohead> been busy all day today cleaning and stuff
41:28 <electrohead> :D
41:34 <Ysjoelfir> eww, friends
41:39 <electrohead> :/
41:41 <Ysjoelfir> we just had a nice lady visiting
41:41 <electrohead> lol
42:11 <electrohead> oh, I actually wanted to talk to you about something
42:34 <electrohead> so, there's a thing called the flipper zero - https://flipperzero.one/
42:35 <EEVBot> [url] Flipper Zero — Portable Multi-tool Device for Geeks | flipperzero.one
42:40 <electrohead> currently, they aren't shipping to the US
42:54 <electrohead> now, germany is on the list of countries the ship to
43:05 <Ysjoelfir> yes, I can do that
43:07 <electrohead> so like, was wondering if I could purchase said thing when I have the money, and send to you?
43:23 <electrohead> I'll pay for shipping to me, as welll
43:26 <electrohead> well*
43:40 <electrohead> I actually found them on ebay.. heh
43:51 <electrohead> the price is way over what it is, on the website
43:54 <electrohead> (of course)
45:05 <Ysjoelfir> obviously^^
45:16 <electrohead> :P
09:14 * Ampera hugs electrohead 
11:43 <Ampera> dude, Breathe is fucking awesome
11:50 <Ampera> idk if he told you or if you saw me mention, but we talked for hours earlier
12:05 <Ampera> He wanted to know more about me than I think I got out of him, but we really hit it off.
35:25 <Ysjoelfir> electrohead, it just keeps going xD
35:27 <Ysjoelfir> https://snipboard.io/xZdWv6.jpg
35:27 <EEVBot> [url] Upload and share screenshots and images - print screen online | Snipboard.io | snipboard.io
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35:47 <Ysjoelfir> I am the small red dot on that sliver on the top right
50:22 <electrohead> Ampera: well that's cool
51:39 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: yeah shit was lagging so bad hahaha
58:20 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead?
59:50 <electrohead> tired
00:05 <electrohead> thinking about taking a nap, before said friends get here tonight
01:58 <electrohead> you?
02:13 <Ampera> I am doing pretty good
02:23 <Ampera> thinking about my life, the future, and just how I want to be I guess
02:33 <Ampera> Breathe and I kinda talked a lot about that
02:38 <Ampera> so it's had me thinking and feeling all day
08:27 <electrohead> well get shit figured out, and press on.
08:29 <electrohead> :p
08:54 <Ampera> you say that like it's obvious
11:09 <electrohead> lol
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23:21 * Halcyon cuddles Ampera
26:22 * Halcyon cuddles harder
29:17 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
29:18 <Ampera> <3
29:20 <Ampera> <3 <3 <3
29:25 <Halcyon> That's better :)
29:26 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon?
29:28 <Halcyon> I'm feeling needy today
29:32 <Halcyon> Yeh I'm good
29:34 <Halcyon> How are you?
29:39 <Ampera> Just today?
29:42 <Ampera> I am okay enough
29:44 <Halcyon> More than usual
29:52 <Ampera> good enough to actually feel some slight sensations of happiness.
30:00 <Ampera> I don't get to experience that very often, so I'm trying to enjoy it.
30:01 <Halcyon> Oh that's positive
30:06 <Ampera> Yes
30:08 <Ampera> don't ruin it
30:09 <Halcyon> BRB, I missed a spot shaving...
30:42 <Ampera> I still need to make an appointment with the nice people with lasers.
31:04 <Halcyon> For your butt?
31:32 <Ampera> my face
31:57 <T3sl4> hmm, i put some horseradish on my hummus
32:01 <T3sl4> seems good
32:09 * Ampera puts some horses in T3sl4's hummer
32:15 <Ampera> CAUSE WE ALL KNOW THEY DON"T GOT ANY
32:15 <Halcyon> Mmmmm horse shavings
32:16 <Ampera> WOOOOO
32:18 * Ampera sneezes
32:42 * T3sl4 grates Halcyon on Ampera's personality
32:54 <Halcyon> I'll be back later, I got to go do some errands and go to the shops.
32:57 <Ampera> I have a personality?
33:25 <Ampera> I think you mean a perspicacity
33:52 <T3sl4> yes. it's coarse, irritating, and it gets everywhere
34:03 <Ampera> like a diaper
34:15 <Ampera> obscure reference you won't get :P
34:35 * electrohead pokes the Halcyon
34:46 * Ampera kisses the electrohead
34:49 <Ampera> how are you doing fren?
34:54 <Ampera> do you have your frens with you?
34:59 * T3sl4 put Amperiapers on electrohead
35:07 <Ampera> no
35:08 <Ampera> stop
35:14 <Ampera> this is a fetish I don't need nor deserve
35:40 * T3sl4 awakens something in Ampera
35:54 * Ampera goes back to sleep
36:07 <Ampera> and I was being actually feeling okay and kinda happy
36:10 <Ampera> and you had to ruin it for me
36:11 <Ampera> like a diaper
40:10 * Halcyon licks electrohead 
40:59 * T3sl4 plinks black raspberries at Halcyon
41:07 <Halcyon> Mmm juicy
41:14 <T3sl4> i had a walk earlier
41:23 <Halcyon> How is your raspberry bush doing?
42:22 <T3sl4> there's a thicket of em by the road, pretty neglected this year. lots of dry ones on the vines already
42:36 <Halcyon> I'm surprised the birbs don't eat them
43:40 <T3sl4> still had a full handful :)
44:01 <T3sl4> there's plenty of birds but they must just not to eat that much
44:22 <T3sl4> or they don't know about them because they're bird brains
44:40 <Ampera> Halcyon I thought you went to da shops
44:54 <Halcyon> I was, but then I had to jump back on to check something and got distracted
45:16 * Ampera plinks huckleberries at T3sl4
45:34 <Ampera> Halcyon you have the attention span of an average bridge
46:05 <Halcyon> Well I love you guys, I could just ignore you if you like?
46:28 <Ampera> you do tho
46:32 <Ampera> by doing things like going to the store
46:38 <Ampera> and not spending every waking moment on IRC like I do
46:40 <Ampera> :<
46:43 <Halcyon> *smirk*
47:02 <Ampera> like a diaper
47:14 <Halcyon> I'm trying to decide what to do for dinner...
47:18 <Halcyon> So many options
47:24 <Ampera> ginger garlic chicken thighs with rice
47:50 <Halcyon> Mmmm I like those things
48:04 <Ampera> I had some earlier
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01:52 <jaymax> Halcyon: I did this (pesto and sourdough bread was from scratch): https://chat.chinwag.im/files/9fb98b9b-f562-4e4c-967a-dd477f97f5cc/NjwK9vA2Qsalt6va_BQLZQ.jpg
02:29 <jaymax> BTW I really like the hardy flavour of spelt pasta.
04:04 <jaymax> You probably won't have a bunch of cheap fresh thyme around but https://localchefoliver.com/thyme-pesto/
04:07 <EEVBot> [url] Thyme Pesto – Local Chef Oliver | localchefoliver.com
04:23 <DHess_US> Hardy flavor pasta is too much of a mystery for me.
05:00 <jaymax> As in, the robust taste of fiber.
05:20 <jaymax> (since I'm misusing engrish angain)
05:45 <jaymax> Other pestos: https://www.myrecipes.com/ingredients/pesto-recipes-without-basil
05:47 <EEVBot> [url] 8 Pesto Recipes (That Don't Involve Basil) | MyRecipes | www.myrecipes.com
08:07 * Ampera stabs jaymax with a tree tap, and tries to extract shitty maple syrup out of his veins
08:13 <Ampera> (this would work much better if you were from vermont)
09:02 <jaymax> If by shitty you mean pseudo-liposuction, yeah that'd be shitty alright. :^D
09:06 <Halcyon> That looks good jaymax
09:10 <Halcyon> Needs chilli though
09:11 <Ampera> HALCYON
09:13 <Ampera> GO TO THE STORE
09:16 <Halcyon> Meh
09:20 <Ampera> :P
09:23 <jaymax> Halcyon: shit yes
09:25 <Ampera> you're such a tease
09:42 <Ampera> man are modern smartphones amazingly shitty at the simplest things
09:54 <Ampera> like keeping their radios on while connected to wlan so they can accept calls
10:03 * Halcyon brushes up against Ampera "accidentally" on purpose.
10:12 <Ampera> idk, my grandfather's done something to his phone and it goes straight to voicemail
10:22 <Halcyon> Call forward?
10:26 <Ampera> I think it's just turning off its radios for some reason
10:28 <Ampera> huh?
10:33 * jaymax doesn't always adds chillies but when he does, it tends to end in a rump fire.
10:44 <Halcyon> Go to the phone app, then settings and check the call forwarding settings
10:55 <Ampera> he's 120 miles away from me you slut :P
11:04 <Halcyon> Get him to do it clown
11:37 <Ampera> I couldn't get him to figure out a can opener over the phone, nevermind the phone itself while he's using the thing
11:52 <Halcyon> Can you get Teamviewer for Android?
12:30 <Ampera> 20 GOTO 10
12:58 <Ampera> the phone works, it just decides to turn its radios off randomly
13:08 <jaymax> There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza....
13:09 <Ampera> it shouldn't take me intervening for it to do this
13:23 <Halcyon> Tell him to put it in the bin then
13:31 <Ampera> I'll put you in the bin :P
13:38 <Halcyon> You love me dirty
13:40 <Ampera> They're all like this
13:44 <Ampera> my phone does the same thing for no reason
13:53 <Halcyon> Weird
13:54 <Ampera> it will just forget that it's a cellphone
13:58 <Ampera> it's android
14:11 <Ampera> I've never understood it, the power management is just bizarre
14:14 <Halcyon> Do you guys use Wifi calling over there?
14:19 <Ampera> No, it's very unstable
14:31 <Ampera> 802.11 really isn't a great option for calling too, if you're moving around the houes
14:37 <Halcyon> I was going to say, turn that shit off and force it to use cell. I've had issues with that too.
14:42 <Ampera> It's off
14:46 <jaymax> My father "forwarded" emails by printing the email, scanning the printout, and attaching the scan in a new email. Until the day he died.
14:51 <Ampera> also, that phone is remarkable stable with VoWIFI
15:23 <Ampera> jaymax, did he get murdered by a possee formed by all the people he ever emailed?
15:58 <jaymax> Nah, unless that posse is alcoholism and high blood pressure.
16:11 <Ampera> No, but that sounds like my parents
16:24 <jaymax> alcoholism?
16:31 <Ampera> and high blood pressure sooner or later here
16:48 <Ampera> my dad especially treats himself like shit
16:53 <jaymax> Yeah. That shit sucks. Also crappy combo.
17:01 <Ampera> though his alcoholism is acceptable, because it's impossible for him to get drunk
17:09 <Ampera> I've never seen it happen, no matter how much he's had to drink
17:14 <jaymax> Considering blood pressure drugs enhaces the drunkenness
17:27 <Ampera> My mom can get drunk from being sober
17:28 <Ampera> seriously
17:48 <Ampera> She had previously been at the point where it was not possible to tell drunk from sober
18:02 <jaymax> A real Jim Lahey of a mother then?
18:08 <Ampera> who?
18:17 <jaymax> Trailer Park Boys.
18:18 <Ampera> She'd act plastered after a single light beer.
18:36 <jaymax> Well, it'd be accurate for blood pressure drugs.
18:44 <Ampera> Nevermind when she brought out the jack and coke and jagermeister
18:59 <Ampera> afaik neither of them are on any regular medication
19:09 <jaymax> One beer gets me buzzed, and I'm a tank of a person.
19:14 <Ampera> unless you count the fake bullshit pills my dad occasionally buys off facebook to solve X issue
19:40 <jaymax> Mmmhmm
19:44 <Ampera> I do not drink. I could if I really wanted to (21 is just the age to purchase in my state, I can still make it or find other ways to get it legally), but it just does not appeal
20:45 * jaymax brewed his own at 17. Legal drinking age is 19.
21:30 <Ampera> Legal drinking age is how ever old for it to not kill you
21:41 <jaymax> Cheap beer kits could be had at grocery stores, in the land of no booze allowed at grocery stores.
22:05 * Ampera gives jaymax a nice, kosher, block of dried compressed hops
22:21 * jaymax shudders
22:46 * jaymax is not an IPA kind of guy.
22:59 <jaymax> More like browns, bitters, and reds.
23:06 <Ampera> like I fucking know
23:11 <Ampera> it's all bad smelling piss water to me
23:12 <jaymax> Hehhe
23:22 <jaymax> Malt is the underlying deal.
23:35 <jaymax> hops is for the flowering flavopur shit.
24:09 <jaymax> Cheap beer kits is all malt extract, aside from the yeast packet.
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32:30 * Halcyon urinates all over Ampera
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39:04 * electrohead films
39:14 <electrohead> Halcyon: I just got your message not long ago
39:20 <electrohead> I mean, it was there, just didn't check that phone
39:41 <electrohead> and, hrmm
39:47 <electrohead> !giphy golden shower
39:47 <EEVBot> electrohead: https://media1.giphy.com/media/SVi1970AIDmXqkSmvi/giphy.gif?cid=28c3c3c888e64fd06c7bcb7af8c566bfecdd18a7d7d8ebbe&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
40:00 <electrohead> uhh, ok
40:02 <electrohead> lol
16:49 * Halcyon hugs electrohead 
17:00 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4HOfm5lDhg
17:01 <EEVBot> [url] PASTA ALLA VODKA RECIPE | Easy Pasta with Vodka Sauce - YouTube | www.youtube.com
17:04 <Halcyon> I'm making that tonight
19:40 <Halcyon> electrohead, your package will have landed in the US by now. Just waiting for the next scan event
20:18 <Halcyon> https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=EJ295217898AU
20:23 <Halcyon> It's on USPS's system now
52:17 <electrohead> oooo
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54:44 <steve30> hi
53:26 <Halcyon> Hello steve30
54:12 <steve30> i'm tired
54:17 <steve30> but i have to go out later
54:58 * Halcyon hugs Steve
55:09 <steve30> at least i'll be able to buy some food
05:04 <Halcyon> Why wouldn't you?
06:00 <steve30> i'm hungry and hardly have any food in so going out is a good excuse to buy soe
06:01 <steve30> *some
06:33 <Halcyon> I'm making vodka pasta later
07:01 <steve30> that sounds strange
07:16 <steve30> i think i'lll treat myself to a sausage roll when i go out
07:21 <Halcyon> It looks delicious, it's a creamy, tomatoey, cheesy pasta
07:28 <Halcyon> https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/10872257?s=400&u=2f8fb1b6c88290dc32542ce6bdb09dfd98d9e950&v=4
07:31 <Halcyon> Not that
07:36 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4HOfm5lDhg
07:36 <EEVBot> [url] PASTA ALLA VODKA RECIPE | Easy Pasta with Vodka Sauce - YouTube | www.youtube.com
07:37 <Halcyon> That
08:03 <steve30> You aren't eating the cute guy for dinner then? :p
08:08 <Halcyon> Hah, I wish
08:15 <Halcyon> Pasta it is
10:07 <Halcyon> Hahah I'm just watching the magpies out the window
10:18 <Halcyon> There is a young one laying on its back, playing dead
11:16 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqSbDcks_uA
11:17 <EEVBot> [url] Woman Gives Toys to a Wild Magpie — and He Invites His Friends Over to Play | The Dodo Wild Hearts - YouTube | www.youtube.com
11:25 <Halcyon> They are very playful, clever birds
18:20 * Halcyon licks electrohead 
23:34 * steve30 watches the davestream
31:19 <Halcyon> I'm watching Big Clive
31:36 <steve30> Dave is talking about how to get girls :p
31:46 <Halcyon> Oh gawd
31:58 <Halcyon> He did write that dating book once
32:19 <Halcyon> https://www.amazon.com.au/Art-Internet-Dating-David-Jones-ebook/dp/B004MDLVAO
32:19 <EEVBot> [url] The Art of Internet Dating eBook : Jones, David: Amazon.com.au: Kindle Store | www.amazon.com.au
33:15 <Halcyon> I should buy a copy, I bet you it's about IRC etc... it says it's more of a technical book
34:47 <Halcyon> Actually, I found a PDF copy
35:52 <steve30> i have a copy somewhere
38:21 <Halcyon> https://tmpfiles.org/dl/353530/david_jones_-_the_art_of_internet_dating.pdf
38:24 <Halcyon> There you go
41:34 <Halcyon> The cyberers
41:34 <Halcyon> Are just after cyber sex. You will find them lurking in seedy chat
41:34 <Halcyon> rooms, and they’ll usually send you a chat request saying, “wanna
41:34 <Halcyon> cyber?”
41:36 <Halcyon> Hahahah
41:47 <Halcyon> "Cyber" has such a different meaning now
44:43 <Halcyon> Oh he has a GLBT section
44:46 <Halcyon> Good on him
59:44 * steve30 thinks Halcyon should try and take Dave out on a date :p
59:51 <Halcyon> Ew no
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11:05 * Halcyon offers steve30 an ASCII rose from Dave's book —<—@
13:49 <steve30> :)
14:33 <Halcyon> "Most people are not amused when they just jump on the Net quickly to read their email only to find that they have a 2MB image file as an attachment that takes 20 minutes to download!"
14:45 <Halcyon> Oh this book is a fascinating trip down memory lane
36:38 * steve30 is hungry
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07:52 <TheDude> hi
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14:11 <SWMBO> Get off the internet and come to bed.
14:47 <SWMBO> Now.
15:49 <SWMBO> I'm not going to tell you again.
18:56 <TheDude> lol
19:24 <TheDude> weird aussies going to bed at 1 in the afternoon
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31:16 <rust1> hmm, what is weird about that? good night
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42:40 <Ampera> hey TheDude and rust1
42:43 <Ampera> how are you people
42:52 <rust1> slow
43:16 <Ampera> well yes, you drive ladas and trabants, they're gonna be slow
43:39 <TheDude> hello Ampera
43:48 <rust1> I do not drive, I am on vacation. I plan to not drive an inch for 3 weeks
43:51 <TheDude> ordered my trabant
44:06 <TheDude> need to wait 12 more years for my order to be produced
44:41 <Ampera> hrm
44:45 <Ampera> and what about the GR86?
44:54 <TheDude> hopefully next year :D
45:03 <Ampera> why not buy a WRX? You can have one tomorrow!
45:05 <rust1> he realized it was dull and boring.
45:07 <TheDude> but speaking of trabants
45:09 <Ampera> (jk)
45:29 <TheDude> they did actually have a 13 year waiting period from ordering to delivery in the eastern bloc
45:38 <TheDude> not even fucking kidding here
46:27 <TheDude> I'm not entirely sure I could have a WRX tomorrow if I wanted one
46:42 <Ampera> I'm not sure either.
46:50 <Ampera> If I could, it's likely it'd be an automatic too
46:53 <Ampera> because people are fucking masochists
47:02 <Ampera> sadists or whatever
47:03 <Ampera> idfk
47:23 <TheDude> ???
47:24 <Ampera> I like my Impreza. Sure it could use a bit more power, but what's a good nugget if you can't drive a slow car fast :D
48:00 <TheDude> why are you making such a big fuss about driving a manual?
48:10 <TheDude> it's the fucking norm in most parts of this planet
48:11 <rust1> I tend to be much more agressive, in a slow car. if I have a quick car, I just roll around
48:20 <Ampera> TheDude, because they are insanely rare here.
48:37 <Ampera> I do not know a single person who owns a car with a manual transmission.
48:46 <Ampera> with the exception of electrohead I think
48:52 <TheDude> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
49:19 <Ampera> also, big fuss? So you think being only able to get a WRX as an auto isn't a big deal?
49:29 <Ampera> You can get them manual, but probably not off the showroom floor
49:44 <TheDude> just checked the local subie site
49:52 <TheDude> they don't even offer WRX
50:14 <rust1> a wrx auto seems sort of backwards, imo? (IMMUNK�RPERMANGELKRANKHEIT)
50:22 <TheDude> you can have an impreza, but only with a shitty CVT
50:39 <Ampera> rust1, it is, but because there are a seriously lot of people who would buy an WRX, but can't drive a manual
50:42 <Ampera> (here)
50:51 <Ampera> They sell more than you'd think
51:02 <TheDude> that's just fucking sad :D
51:13 <Ampera> My circle of people I know is weird.
51:20 <Ampera> I only know one person who can't drive a manual
51:27 <Ampera> and I am the only person I know in my area that has one
51:46 <Ampera> I guess the logical conclusion there is I only know one person, myself, who can't drive the car I own :D
52:37 <TheDude> at this point I'm kinda convinced you're fucking yourself over with your own mindset
53:13 <TheDude> you keep convincing yourself that driving a manual is some extremely complex and difficult task, when it's really not
53:17 * rust1 coffees hard
53:30 <TheDude> and even though you're doing it, you continue to tell yourself that it's hard
53:36 <TheDude> it's fucking not :D
54:09 <Ampera> TheDude, I'm not saying it's hard
54:12 <Ampera> when did I say it's hard?
54:16 <Ampera> I love doing it, and have 0 problems with it
54:22 <Ampera> I am saying OTHER people find it hard
54:29 <TheDude> Ampera> I guess the logical conclusion there is I only know one person, myself, who can't drive the car I own :D
54:33 <Ampera> to the point that they would refuse to buy a manual car outright.
54:35 <Ampera> That was a joke.
54:52 <TheDude> ah, I see
54:54 <Ampera> because I was remarking about how I only know a single person who can't drive a manual car, out of all the people I know
55:01 <Ampera> and I also know one person who actually owns one
55:07 <rust1> but automatics are black magic, I am topl, so it is probably safer to use a manual
55:11 <Ampera> therefore, I must be that person :P
55:37 <rust1> and topl means told, today
55:56 <TheDude> I've tried many things so far
56:35 <Ampera> I learned on an auto, and then taught myself how to drive a manual.
56:37 <TheDude> manual is what I normally drive, I've driven automatics with torque converters, dual clutch and CVT
56:51 <Ampera> It's not hard, it's just hard if you have most people tell you what to do
56:55 <TheDude> and only dual clutch ones seemed kinda alright to my taste
57:00 <Ampera> because most people are terrible at explaining how a manual transmission actually works
57:09 <TheDude> and even those depend heavily on how the software is written for them
57:24 <rust1> you can tweak them to be pretty impressive
57:25 <Ampera> I learned on a normal slushbox auto kia
57:35 <Ampera> it was fine, you stamp on the go pedal to go, you stamp on the stop pedal to stop
57:49 <Ampera> If you expect more than that, you will be disappointed.
58:05 <TheDude> the newer VAG cars have a pretty decent DSG
58:14 <rust1> hehe
58:19 <Ampera> What I've found it does is it basically guarantees you end up riding your brakes.
58:21 <TheDude> they are calm when driven calmly
58:28 <Ampera> Everyone here speeds up fast and stops late
58:37 <TheDude> but figure out pretty quickly when you're in the mood for hooning a bit
58:56 <TheDude> and will keep the RPM high even when you're driving a bit slower while you're waiting to overtake someone
59:56 <TheDude> but it does come with the downside that when you decide to calm down again, it takes a while to get the message "oh, we're not hammering it anymore? okay, I'll shift up then"
00:49 <TheDude> torque converter autos are shite
01:07 <Ampera> How are DCT's at low speed?
01:10 <rust1> no, they are great, but for as different use
01:12 <TheDude> everything feels delayed
01:29 <Ampera> They suck if you know what you're doing. Most people here just don't care.
01:42 <Ampera> So long as it goes forward, and stops, it's fine, they'll find a way to drive you off the road either way.
01:49 <TheDude> but the worst offender of ALL aspects of driving is the CVT
02:32 <TheDude> it's downright fucking horrendous
02:57 <rust1> they tried programming cvts so they work well, but people did not like that, so they were reprogrammed to act more like a regular auto box
03:03 <TheDude> but I can see how it would be desirable for soccer moms driving to the supermarket
03:25 <TheDude> well, then there's the two types of CVT
03:37 <TheDude> the regular one where you have a steel belt transferring the power
03:44 <rust1> yep
03:44 <TheDude> and the eCVT that Toyota is doing
03:55 <TheDude> which is rather clever, I'll give them that, but not enjoyable at all
04:07 <rust1> you have the broken ones, and the not quite broken just yet one
04:28 <TheDude> the regular ones suffer from the non-linearity that comes with wear on the cones that drive the belt
04:50 <TheDude> because they're driven at constant speed, the same part of the cone is always grinding the belt
05:19 <TheDude> so you get grooves and all of a sudden it feels like it has somewhat fixed gear ratios
05:36 <rust1> they suffer because it is a great idea, that just does not really work.
05:47 <TheDude> you avoid that entirely with the eCVT
05:52 <rust1> the fendt tractors seem to do pretty ok
06:06 <rust1> not sure what system they use, but it is some kind of cvt
06:10 <TheDude> aren't those using hydraulic motors back to back?
06:27 <TheDude> one working as a pump, the other as a motor
06:32 <rust1> no, or, at least not all of them, they have cvt ones
06:54 <TheDude> and they use actuators to vary the depth of the stroke of the pump cylinders to vary the "gear" ratio
07:01 <rust1> floor it, and it will go to max power, and just keep feedingit more gear
07:41 <rust1> like they used to on early cvt cars, that people did not like
08:15 <TheDude> I think I found a youtube video explaining fendt's vario transmission
09:40 <TheDude> ah, it's a combination of what I was talking about earlier
09:41 <TheDude> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsgcrBeTslg
09:42 <EEVBot> [url] Variogetriebe Funktion Teil 5.mp4 - YouTube | www.youtube.com
09:55 <rust1> germans have always had a thing for hydraulic drive things...
10:20 <TheDude> this essentially works just like the eCVT, but the electric motors are replaced by hydraulic motors
10:52 <TheDude> where the speed ratio is adjusted with the pumping stroke adjustment I was talking about earlier
11:16 <TheDude> brilliant stuff for farm machinery
11:29 <TheDude> terrible stuff for driving feel in cars
16:03 <TheDude> okay, to summarize my ramblings: manual good, DCT tolerable, CVT and torque converter bad
21:23 <rust1> aha, oh, so it is more or less like the steering on cat dosers. interesting.
25:40 <TheDude> I love to occasionally nerd out about mechanical engineering, because I have many mech engineer friends :D
26:01 <TheDude> shit's interesting
44:49 <Ampera> I love transmissions
45:02 <Ampera> I am insanely interested by all the designs
45:09 <Ampera> and would love to drive all of them some day, hard and easy to drive
58:58 <TheDude> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mBgrsS5rDU
58:59 <EEVBot> [url] 156 How to shift an 18 speed transmission - YouTube | www.youtube.com
59:13 <TheDude> I want to try driving a truck some day
59:49 <Ampera> watch Smart Trucking, it's a great channel with an experienced trucker from Canada who's got a lot of great trucking stories.
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