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00:41:01 <hsn993> my altium design very annoying some sheets are A3 and others A4 :)
01:32:08 <rust_collector> stop making annoying designs?
02:08:35 <Halcyon> *yawn*
02:08:53 <rust_collector> I agree
02:11:54 * Ampera grasps Halcyon firmly
02:12:53 <K> grab him by the ...
02:13:06 * Ampera grabs Halcyon by the birdy
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02:21:47 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
02:21:48 <Halcyon> :)
02:21:52 <Ampera> HALCYON
02:21:56 <Halcyon> Hello friend
02:21:56 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Halcyon!
02:22:01 <Ampera> lol
02:22:03 <Ampera> How are you doing?
02:22:06 <Halcyon> It's stupid o'clock here and I just got home from work
02:22:08 <Ampera> I haven't seen you in ages
02:22:24 <Ampera> oh man, 02:22
02:22:44 <Halcyon> Yeh I've been busy. I'm seconded to the Police operations centre working on this COVID-19 operation
02:22:53 <Halcyon> So yeh, it's.... interesting
02:22:55 <Ampera> rip
02:22:58 <Ampera> how's that been going
02:23:04 <Halcyon> *shrug* something different
02:23:10 <Halcyon> I just wish the hours weren't so shit
02:23:12 <Ampera> well I meant the operation
02:23:17 <rust_collector> any infected computers yet?
02:23:24 <Halcyon> Yeh not bad, heaps to do
02:23:28 <rust_collector> haaaa haaaaaa haaaaa
02:23:37 <Halcyon> Terrible rust_collector
02:23:46 <rust_collector> yes
02:23:56 <Halcyon> Most of it is logistics in relation to the quarantined people
02:24:15 <Halcyon> Organising accommodation and transport with Border Force and such
02:24:25 <Ampera> Halcyon, you have almost nobody counted infected down there
02:24:32 <Halcyon> I'm like the lowest ranking person in the room, which is a very odd feeling
02:25:00 <Halcyon> Yeh, in the grand scheme of things, we don't have many confirmed positive cases, but there are many more who are symptomatic and are being tested/quarantined
02:25:07 <Ampera> >75,000 cases in my state alone
02:25:25 <Ampera> over 186,000 in the USD in total
02:25:39 <Ampera> *-D
02:26:17 <Halcyon> https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
02:26:26 <Halcyon> Just under 5000 confirmed
02:26:31 <Halcyon> In the country
02:26:43 <Ampera> almost nobody
02:27:06 <Ampera> in other news my grandfather is in the ICU with pneumonia
02:27:25 <Halcyon> I think we've seen the peak already if we've had to guess.
02:27:40 <Halcyon> I think over the coming weeks, the number confirmed will drop week on week
02:27:50 <Halcyon> Oh no
02:27:53 <Halcyon> Poor Richard :(
02:27:55 <Halcyon> Is he OK?
02:28:05 <Ampera> The good news is he most likely does not have bat soup flu
02:28:14 <Halcyon> \o/
02:28:40 <Ampera> He had a malfunctioning renal valve, that much they do know, but it's simply complications with his kidney transplant.
02:29:21 <hsn993> Ampeeera
02:29:23 <Halcyon> I hope he gets better soon
02:29:58 <Ampera> hssssssn
02:30:03 <hsn993> how r u
02:30:06 <Ampera> Halcyon, things are looking good so far
02:30:13 <Halcyon> Good stuff
02:30:20 <Ampera> hsn993, ech, depressed, depraved, lonely, etc.
02:30:28 * Halcyon fondles Ampera
02:30:32 * hsn993 hugs ampera
02:30:42 <Halcyon> You can add titillated to the list now
02:31:09 <Ampera> no, not really
02:31:19 <Halcyon> Dammit
02:39:02 <steve30> hi Halcyon
02:39:35 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
02:39:37 <Halcyon> *licks*
02:40:09 <Halcyon> I should go to bed soon, it's almost 0300 here
02:40:11 <steve30> Air conditioning man finally got back to me
02:40:23 <Halcyon> Oh yeh?
02:41:28 <Halcyon> What was the outcome?
02:41:34 <steve30> Looking like £4000 to £5000 to do the 3 rooms depending on which type of system we go for.
02:51:54 <hsn993> bye
02:53:02 <hsn993> https://snipboard.io/TQ7v0f.jpg
02:54:01 <Halcyon> So fucking true hsn993
02:55:24 <steve30> I think I might go and cosy up in bed soon :)
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03:01:03 <Halcyon> Yeh I think it's well and truly my bed time
03:01:29 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/ExGeist/status/1245341550365704193
03:02:24 <Halcyon> DHess_US: I was waiting for someone to jump out or somethign
03:03:08 <DHess_US> Not that kind of post.
03:03:10 <DHess_US> Unfortunately.
03:03:47 <DHess_US> I wasn't able to confirm it though but I assume NYC is trying to control information.
03:03:56 <Halcyon> Look, the deaths are sad, but I don't see the point of dwelling on them. This isn't the first time this has happened and it won't be the last.
03:04:42 <DHess_US> It will be the first time it was documented so well.
03:04:48 <Halcyon> True
03:05:43 * steve30 wraps Halcyon up in a cosy duvet
03:06:13 <Halcyon> :)
03:06:21 <Halcyon> I'm off guys. Goodnight
03:16:52 <K> nn
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04:12:30 <DHess_US> Plus there has been a whole generation since 9/11
04:14:01 <Ampera> steve30, that's some expensive fucking aircon
04:14:34 <Ampera> That better be a full split heat pump with backup heater
04:14:43 <Ampera> For 3 rooms
04:15:19 <Ampera> Over here that would be a grand tops for window units
04:24:54 <rust_collector> i do not think window units are used much in england-land
04:37:41 <coppice_> steve30: is that based on a single large air con, or separate ones for the 3 rooms? Either way, its quite a lot of money, unless you need a lot of work for a complex installation
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05:07:48 <MrMobodies> Hello
05:43:28 <Lemon> hi peeps
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06:08:59 <Ampera> hi ThunderSqueak how are you doing
06:09:40 <ThunderSqueak> ok, I am just staying home
06:09:54 <ThunderSqueak> waiting for a few deliveries
06:10:20 <Ampera> I discovered that I'm actually getting paid this week and not next week, and as a result I have more money than I know what to do with
06:10:23 <Ampera> which is weird to me
06:10:56 <ThunderSqueak> buy supplies
06:11:01 <Ampera> for what
06:11:23 <ThunderSqueak> just in case things get bad with infected people <.<
06:11:33 <Ampera> I already have a ton of food, and have tons of money for food
06:11:43 <Lemon> buy test equipement !
06:11:46 <Ampera> and I'm not expecting the world to collapse that hard
06:11:56 <Lemon> Im looking more and more at a second gpsdo ://///
06:12:25 <Ampera> I have like 6 cans of corned beef hash, 6 cans of potato, a couple of cans of fruit, a big pot of chicken and rice, the bones from the chicken for soup, a ton of barley, a load of fish and miso, along with soba
06:12:32 <ThunderSqueak> hmm then buy an analog discovery II and a decent FPGA board and have fun?
06:13:30 <Ampera> I've never done FPGA stuff, but that's A. jumping the gun in terms of my skills, B. a money pit to add to my pile of money pits
06:14:06 <Ampera> Because of the newly minted 2T, it's actually a terrible terrible idea to sit on them, and investing it is about as stupid, so I kinda have to spend it too
06:14:16 <Ampera> *on them -> on it
06:14:44 <Ampera> though investing in oil might not be a bad idea right now, as prices are at an all time stupid low
06:25:22 <MrMobodies> I went out for my walk today like I do everyday, brought some newspapers, sat down on a bench and a car approached me.
06:25:53 <Ampera> hopefully you were luckier than my mom was as a child, and it wasn't a completely naked man asking for directions
06:26:41 <MrMobodies> Police siren and "We're fining people for this.", I said "I am on my own" "Go home, or walk or I'd have to fine you, sitting down is non essential."
06:26:58 <Ampera> wow
06:27:09 <MrMobodies> Yes, they are checking up on people.
06:27:14 <Ampera> where do you live again?
06:27:20 <MrMobodies> it was an undecover police officer
06:27:30 <MrMobodies> Cambrigdeshire, Coates
06:27:36 <MrMobodies> nice little village
06:27:52 <Ampera> so he told you off for not having a sitting license
06:27:53 <Ampera> gg
06:28:08 <MrMobodies> yes, to do with the corona outbreak
06:28:41 <MrMobodies> I have read that they also been fining people on they way to buy bikes and easter eggs
06:28:56 <Ampera> That doesn't go here, so long as you're not congregating, they don't care
06:29:30 <MrMobodies> I was surprised that they would doing that. Days ago, lots of people on their owbn on the green, doing their own thing.
06:30:10 <Lemon> its the same here
06:32:33 <MrMobodies> I am lot better today, I had orange juice and lemons, and my cough has nearly gone.
06:32:39 <MrMobodies> Now I am going to have some coffee
06:32:50 <Ampera> heh, coughee
06:39:05 <MrMobodies> ... sweets
06:39:07 <ThunderSqueak> there are some pretty big penalties here for violation of the stay at home order
06:39:11 <MrMobodies> Fudge from devon
06:39:31 <Ampera> Here the stay at home order applies to employers and employees
06:39:44 <Ampera> as a general rule you can still go outside, as far as I know there's been no order stating you can't
06:41:58 <MrMobodies> https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11286325/cops-patrol-lidl-car-park-and-fine-cyclist/
06:42:36 <MrMobodies> They say you can go for walks but threaten to fine for none essential things
06:42:48 <MrMobodies> but the sitting down was essential for my daily walk
06:42:51 <Ampera> it doesn't even make sense
06:43:11 <Ampera> fining and talking to you about it is far more dangerous and likely to spread disease than just letting you go on your merry way
06:43:21 <Ampera> the police in the UK are corrupt as all hell, the entire government is
06:43:27 <ThunderSqueak> 25,000usd fine and a criminal charge of reckless endangerment
06:43:51 <MrMobodies> I know of a cough medicine, that helps me not cough. Now they banned that on the NHS to save money, even if I wanted to pay privately through my GP.
06:44:10 <ThunderSqueak> get an opiate <.<
06:44:11 <Ampera> ThunderSqueak, what's the condition for violation
06:44:17 <ThunderSqueak> that will make you not cough
06:44:19 <ThunderSqueak> XD
06:44:27 <ThunderSqueak> used to be used for that
06:44:29 <Ampera> Heroin, the non-addictive cough remedy
06:45:01 <ThunderSqueak> ampera, being out and not being on the "essential personnel" list
06:45:08 <ThunderSqueak> we are on full lockdown
06:45:11 <Ampera> what if you need food
06:45:14 <Ampera> or medicine
06:45:17 <MrMobodies> that's interesting... no wonder why old people are taking it for other things than their pain
06:45:24 <Ampera> or to help an old relative
06:45:30 <ThunderSqueak> those are on the list
06:45:44 <ThunderSqueak> as valid reasons for travel
06:46:04 <MrMobodies> Well they say to self isolate... but when they need medicine, they'd have to get someone to go get it for them.
06:46:07 <ThunderSqueak> but, if you are constantly being caught "grocery shopping" you get fined apparently
06:46:28 <ThunderSqueak> not sure how it is being handled tbh
06:46:31 <MrMobodies> and all the uneaten stuff they throw out
06:47:38 <MrMobodies> they have limited in my local shop 2 tissue rolls per customer
06:47:53 <ThunderSqueak> last time I went to the shop there was no TP
06:48:02 <ThunderSqueak> week ago
06:48:16 <ThunderSqueak> not a huge deal, just one of those things
06:48:27 <MrMobodies> they were stocked well on bread today.
06:48:34 <MrMobodies> it is a little village shop
06:48:49 <MrMobodies> with a post office in there
06:49:13 <MrMobodies> but they seem stocked on many things supermarket grade food.
06:49:35 <MrMobodies> it is run by Indians a bit more expensive but I don't mind.
06:50:36 <ThunderSqueak> yeah, I went to the smaller grocer last time, almost no one there so it was nice
06:50:48 <ThunderSqueak> the fred meyers was packed when I drove by there
06:50:49 <MrMobodies> When I go into the big stores it is so busy, and sometimes they think I am a ghost and try to push trolley through me.
06:51:09 <ThunderSqueak> fred meyers being the larger grocery store here
06:51:50 <MrMobodies> Never heard of them before
06:51:51 <MrMobodies> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Meyer
06:51:59 <MrMobodies> 1931
06:52:12 <ThunderSqueak> yeah
06:53:06 <MrMobodies> In England there is Sainsbury's, Tesco's, Waitrose, Morrison, Co-Op and they sell the same things and under their own different names.
06:53:14 <ThunderSqueak> yeah
06:53:57 <MrMobodies> Joke: if you want bright yellow, eggs, really bright and distasteful, like you gone off eggs, go there.
06:54:47 <MrMobodies> Sometimes they sell a limited range of eggs, organic and the yolks are darker and taste nicer
06:55:03 <ThunderSqueak> ah
06:55:29 <MrMobodies> but I have been buying eggs from my neighbours, no chemicals, dark in colour, delicious.
06:55:47 <MrMobodies> they feed the hens their scrap food
06:56:01 <ThunderSqueak> ah
06:56:53 <MrMobodies> I was told by someone years ago who bred hens that they feed the mass ones what he referred to as, "fat pellets"
06:56:56 <ThunderSqueak> since starting isolation, I have actually lost 10lb
06:57:17 <MrMobodies> in one way it is a good thing, I am not spending any money at that pub
06:57:35 <MrMobodies> at witnessing the horrors of people gambling away at those machines
06:58:13 <ThunderSqueak> hmm
06:58:41 <MrMobodies> they got some gambling machines there and it makes some become emotional when they loose their money
06:59:36 <MrMobodies> they have some advice there about gambling addiction
07:00:11 <MrMobodies> I said to the bar man, if you want to solve this problem, buy the machines outright and make them free. So you don't put in any money and it don't give it any.
07:03:21 <ThunderSqueak> heh
07:03:36 <ThunderSqueak> put in arcade cabinets like joust or frogger or qbert instead
07:07:49 <MrMobodies> Someone put in £60, and they were all proud when they got out £20.
07:08:21 <MrMobodies> Bar man says but you put in £60" she said "Well, I don't think like that."
07:08:29 <MrMobodies> that was a couple of months ago
07:09:20 <MrMobodies> Bell fruit machines with the money slots where the lights around it change colour.
07:09:58 <MrMobodies> I found a bit funny when they put colour changing leds around the money slots.
07:11:26 <coppice_> fruit machines - get your 5 a day
07:12:56 <MrMobodies> An educational doctor use to say a lot "An apple a day keeps the doctor away."
07:13:16 <MrMobodies> "but you're still here"
07:15:46 <Ampera> apparently my work gave everyone really really nice yeti mugs
07:15:59 <Ampera> we made a big deal recently so I guess they're celebrating
07:19:23 <MrMobodies> the big deal...
07:19:50 <MrMobodies> a friend I spoke to had to close their company down but he was celebrating at home with cheese and biscuits with red wine.
07:20:24 <MrMobodies> they are only allowed to dispatch teams for emergency call outs.
07:21:01 <MrMobodies> but I think he said he wasn't illegable for the 80% bail out from the government.
07:26:16 <MrMobodies> yeti mugs
07:26:19 <MrMobodies> https://www.amazon.com/s?k=yeti+mugs
07:26:32 <MrMobodies> they seem expensive over £20 in the tuk
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09:58:31 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Mladen 😛: @eevblog https://t.co/cBs6H7KP6a
10:18:40 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: More than 256,000 Australians have been tested so far, not bad for a country of 25M. Was surprised at that figure. https://t.co/AqDJXxoN6u
10:29:49 <MrMobodies> I have a couple of routers given to me when I moved with the new ISP. They are Thomson Technicolor DWA OWA120. No option to set syslog but my biggest concern, it exposes port 80 on the wan side which is why I am not using it until I find a way of decypting the config. Not on Routerpassview at the moment.
10:45:52 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Wow, petrol dipped to as low as 50c here in Australia. Too bad it only has about a 6 month shelf life.
10:54:39 <MrMobodies> So pleased... found an answer from a similar router
10:54:40 <MrMobodies> https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/technicolor-tg589vac-owners-thread.18696356/page-5
12:09:28 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I Can't Stop Watching Contagion | Folding Ideas https://t.co/VgO0liU4YJ
13:02:50 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: $11,000sqm Yeah, nah. https://t.co/F2SfzJjq3I
13:11:43 <steve30> Ampera, that quote is for proper split systems
13:13:56 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Encouraging https://t.co/OM7RX0XDW1
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13:42:48 <steve30> I just got a youtube ad for a lawnmower which has cloud-computing
14:04:38 <MrMobodies> I found this and i hope it is just a design choice, not a something Ebay are changing.
14:05:03 <MrMobodies> http://www.ebaystores.co.uk/stockmustgo/Computing
14:06:11 <MrMobodies> this one https://www.mowbotix.com/mowers/
14:18:23 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: BEWARE of governments and other actors using the current crisis to try and ban cash. Don't fall for it.
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19:53:09 <steve30> hi
20:08:30 <hsn> hello there, K!
20:08:44 <hsn> hi hello there, steve30!
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23:29:50 <Ampera> steve30, yeah but is it a reversible split
23:43:21 <steve30> it does heating as well
23:48:39 <coppice_> steev30: a lot of those automated lawnmowers seem to use wifi and cloud computing
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