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02:09:33 <Steven1> you shouldnt keep score with nature bro... it tends to win.
05:12:12 <Steven1> well... definently dont do the familiar thing you will lose it.
05:12:34 <Mekkis> (I have AMFed my familiar in the past...)
05:13:37 <Steven1> cool you got lucky.
05:14:29 <Alynn> I assume you gys are running a game right now?
05:14:35 <Mekkis> (also, it's a familiar tattoo, so it's not always out. When it is out, it's because I've made that assessment that it's probably safe. If it's getting targetted by magic stuff, it's probably safer in an AMF...
05:14:38 <Alynn> guys*
05:14:39 <Mekkis> Alynn, nope.
05:14:47 <Mekkis> So feel free to chime in
05:15:00 <Alynn> oh so just discussing tactics etc
05:15:23 <Steven1> yup, just shootin the shit.
05:16:02 <Alynn> *nods* fun
05:16:54 <Alynn> have not played in a pathfinder game in awhile myself
05:17:33 <Steven1> I think i'd probably do a contingancy to feeblemind the nearest hostile creature.
05:18:01 <Steven1> antimagic field can be walked out of, feeblemeind puts an end to the caster.
05:18:17 <Mekkis> contingency can't do that
05:18:23 <Alynn> last character I made for fun was an elf Archivist/Wizard/Mystic Theruge
05:20:07 <Steven1> why cant contingency do tht?
05:20:29 <Mekkis> The spell to be brought into effect by the contingency must be one that affects your person and be of a spell level no higher than one-third your caster level (rounded down, maximum 6th level).
05:21:09 <Steven1> always forget that line.
05:22:51 <Steven1> my only character that uses the spell uses it to recharge his spellstoring armor.
05:23:07 <Mekkis> contingency?
05:23:14 <Steven1> yup
05:23:32 <Steven1> 10d6 vampiric touch when something aattacks him.
05:23:46 <Steven1> that character is broken as shit anyways.
05:24:34 <Steven1> he hasnt been attacked for the last 5 levels.
05:24:47 <Mekkis> who? your wizard?
05:25:23 <Steven1> yup.
05:26:12 <Steven1> he hasnt actually been attacked since i was playing pathfinder society scenarios.
05:26:34 <Steven1> he has been in AoE spells.
05:26:40 <Mekkis> So, Limited Wish as a 7rh level spell?
05:26:47 <Steven1> but never targeted.
05:27:35 <Mekkis> 7th*
05:27:51 <Steven1> so yeah contingency amf will be alright.
05:27:59 <Steven1> just hope it doesnt get attacked.
05:28:19 <Avatar> yes welcome to d&d
05:28:23 <Steven1> familiars are expensive to replace.
05:28:27 <Mekkis> ?
05:28:34 <Avatar> limited wish
05:28:55 <Mekkis> I'd end up getting him raised
05:29:02 <Mekkis> he's impossible to replace.
05:29:52 <Steven1> fairy dragon?
05:29:57 <Mekkis> ja
05:30:04 <Steven1> pretty good familiar.
05:30:18 <Alynn> shiny
05:30:22 <Steven1> I would have gotten one, but my guy is pretty much LE
05:30:23 <Mekkis> +32 UMD or so
05:30:58 <Mekkis> the first guy I had who could have gotten him was Deceased, who is an Asmodeus worshipper
05:31:13 <Mekkis> My sorcerer hit 14th. Considering taking Limited Wish as his only 7th level spell
05:31:31 <Steven1> the last few games i played with him the GMs just assume i get an atonement. I do some pretty evil stuff.
05:32:40 <Steven1> I have an imp that i make do stupid shit... like float next to me carrying a bag of baked goods.
05:32:52 <Alynn> lol
05:33:19 <Steven1> and they must hand me baked goods whenever i call their name. Its never the same name twice and it always some sort of dessert items
05:33:25 <Steven1> Cookie hand me a danish
05:33:37 <Steven1> cake hand me some Baklavah
05:33:55 <Alynn> lol
05:34:07 <Steven1> and when he misbehaves i threaten to eat him.
05:34:10 <Steven1> at least i did.
05:34:27 <Steven1> at the end of last game i cast wish and lost 275lbs.
05:34:37 <Alynn> roflmao
05:34:44 <Steven1> because when you're sitting on 300k... theres nothing else to really do.
05:37:43 <Steven1> i still have to pick spells for level 18.
05:37:51 <Steven1> the choices are pretty meh.
05:39:08 <Steven1> my go to spell is 5th level so everything is pretty blah.
05:39:28 <Mekkis> Seems like Heneski's issues
05:39:42 <Mekkis> but his goto spell is level 3
05:40:12 <Alynn> I remember my magus beat the crap out of stuff with some touch attack ice spell
05:41:56 <Mekkis> I imagine that you've already got Time Stop and Wish?
05:41:59 <Steven1> well thats what a magus do.
05:42:17 <Steven1> yeah.
05:42:22 <Steven1> I dont use them though.
05:42:27 <Steven1> nobody can see me.
05:42:40 <Steven1> I'm rocking Mindblank+Invisibility.
05:42:49 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/winds_of_vengeance.html
05:42:58 <Alynn> I remember back when I first was playing as my magus I was asking for tips on how to play him better
05:43:00 <Steven1> the blaster of the group has that one.
05:43:15 <Alynn> and another player went behind my back and remade him as a sorceror
05:43:31 <Alynn> and basically insisted I play it instead x_x
05:44:24 <Mekkis> Overwhelming Presence
05:44:31 <Steven1> Banned school.
05:44:42 <Mekkis> Ride the Lightning
05:45:09 <Steven1> yeah that should be good.
05:45:16 <Mekkis> Sounds cool
05:45:17 <Mekkis> :P
05:45:29 <Mekkis> My summoner used it
05:45:38 <Mekkis> against Karzog
05:46:04 <Alynn> speaking of summoner is their an archetype that allows more offensive spells for it?
05:46:36 <Steven1> god i loved the karzog fight. I ran it... challenged everyone.
05:47:13 <Steven1> alynn the summoner is basically a specialized wizard.
05:47:17 <Mekkis> you could be a horrible person and use Cursed Earth
05:47:33 <Mekkis> Alynn, why does a summoner need any offensive spells?
05:47:35 <Steven1> oh i already have that spell... like i said... my character is evil.
05:48:18 <Mekkis> Are you actually playing your character at all?
05:49:05 <Steven1> yeah.
05:49:12 <Steven1> I've got 2 more games to play with him.
05:49:24 <Steven1> Shattered Star part 6 and Race for the Runecarved Key
05:49:37 <Steven1> where i will ruin some poor GMs day.
05:50:27 <Steven1> nah, im just joking. I'll make them a deal. I wont Suffocate anything for the first 4 rounds of combat so long as im not attacked.
05:51:39 <Steven1> of course that assumes they can even see my always flying always invisible mind blanked character that looks like a lich.
05:55:16 <Steven1> ride the lightning and Soul Bind.
05:55:55 <Mekkis> Curse Magnimar?
05:57:13 <Alynn> I don't have a summoner XD
05:57:32 <Steven1> nah... if i curse it they cant make me money.
05:57:35 <Alynn> I was just curious if there was away to do so
05:58:05 <Steven1> basically alynn a summoner's offensive spells are just to shit out a bunch of creatures.
05:58:39 <Alynn> yeah I know but I was wondering if there was an archetype that grants them more wizard/sorceror base spells
05:58:44 <Alynn> out of curiousity
05:58:50 <Steven1> not really.
05:59:13 <Alynn> thanks for anwsering just randomly curious
05:59:25 <Steven1> plus the summoner got hit pretty hard with the nerf bat with unchained
05:59:33 <Steven1> which was completely justified imo.
05:59:39 <Alynn> oh?
05:59:44 <Mekkis> Summoners shouldn't have Snowball
05:59:50 <Mekkis> (then again, noone should)
06:00:18 <Alynn> lol
06:00:39 <Alynn> I am some how reminded of an amusing tactic I used in a boss fight
06:01:07 <Steven1> snowball is such a bullshit spell.
06:01:20 <Alynn> aqueous orb then snared the boss and then used shocking grasp on my sword and stuck my blade in my aqueous orb XD
06:01:41 <Steven1> aqueous orb pretty OP spell as well.
06:01:49 <Alynn> its one of my faves
06:03:30 <Steven1> i remember a fight where one of our players cast an enlarged/widened i dont remember which aqueous orb.
06:04:12 <Alynn> <3
06:04:35 <Alynn> I was playing a Musetouched Eladrin Magus who used mostly water based element spells
06:05:34 <Mekkis> Looks like my 13th level feats will be Quicken Spell and Seeking spell
06:06:57 <Steven1> AHHHHH YEAH!
06:07:05 <Steven1> quicken pretty good stuff.
06:07:41 <Avatar> oh
06:07:45 <Avatar> limited wish as a 7th level spell choice
06:07:53 <Avatar> I thought you were asking if limited wish is 7th level
06:11:56 <Steven1> mmmmm chili
06:30:22 <Mekkis> Seelking OK?
06:45:31 <Steven1> meh
06:45:38 <Steven1> I'm not a fan of it.
06:47:18 <Mekkis> I'm using a lot of ranged touch spells and have been missing
06:48:20 <Steven1> weapon focus ray
06:49:45 <Steven1> seeking spell wont really help with missing ranged touch attacks.
06:55:39 <Mekkis> why not?
06:57:07 <Steven1> all it does is negate cover/concealment which can be gotten by with other means.
06:57:25 <Steven1> like truesight can get around concealment
06:57:38 <Steven1> positioning can get around cover.
07:02:41 <Avatar> like trying to keep score with a GM
07:08:53 <Mekkis> and all my missing is due to cover
07:30:33 <Steven1> then you need better battlefield placement
07:52:34 <Jamroar> What's uo guys?
07:52:36 <Jamroar> up*
08:40:39 <Mekkis> !scroll contingency
08:40:40 <diebot> Mekkis, CONTINGENCY: level: 6 CL: 11 Price: 3150
08:40:49 <Mekkis> !scroll antimagic field
08:40:50 <diebot> Mekkis, ANTIMAGIC FIELD: level: 6 CL: 11 Price: 1650
08:40:54 <Mekkis> !spell contingency
08:40:54 <diebot> Mekkis, CONTINGENCY evocation ([]) sorcerer/wizard 6 at least 10 minutes; see text Range: personal you Comp: V, S, M (quicksilver and an eyelash of a spell-using creature), F (ivory statuette of you worth 1,500 gp) Duration: 1 day/level (D) or until discharged Save: SR:Source: PFRPG Core
08:40:55 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/contingency.html
08:40:56 <Mekkis> oops
08:41:05 <Mekkis> Looks like I stuffed up the formula
08:41:19 <Mekkis> so Steven1: how much should it be?
09:04:51 <Steven1> what formula?
09:04:55 <Steven1> what you talkin bout willis?
09:10:58 <Mekkis> Steven1, using SLA in grapple. Does it require a concentration check?
09:11:06 <Steven1> yes
09:11:21 <Mekkis> where does it say that/
09:11:22 <Mekkis> ¿
09:11:22 <Steven1> they require a concentration check to cast defensively
09:11:40 <Mekkis> but not to just cast. (like casting a spell does?)
09:12:20 <Steven1> give me a momment to crack my books.
09:12:23 <Steven1> i gotta finish up this email
09:22:18 <Steven1> alright, let me go find the page for ya.
09:26:49 <Alynn> so whats up everyone?
09:27:07 <Steven1> page 567
09:27:09 <Steven1> A grappled character who attempts to cast a spell or
09:27:09 <Steven1> use a spell-like ability must make a concentration check(DC
09:27:10 <Steven1> 10 + grappler’s CMB+ spell level, see page 206), or lose the
09:27:10 <Steven1> spell.
09:28:53 <Steven1> thats the newest version of the CRB.
09:29:19 <Mekkis> just shows my CRB's outdated
09:29:29 <Mekkis> thanks
09:31:01 <Mekkis> Page 567—In the Grappled condition, in the f irst
09:31:01 <Mekkis> paragraph, in the f ifth sentence, change “cast a spell
09:31:01 <Mekkis> must make” to “cast a spell or use a spell-like ability
09:31:01 <Mekkis> must make”.
09:35:57 <Steven1> its why i like having them all electronic
09:36:17 <Steven1> when they update the book i just download the most recent version.
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10:49:26 Topic for #d&d is: AEDT (UTC+11:00) || Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au || https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/pathfinder-society-online-collective
10:49:26 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Nov 30 19:02:39 2015
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11:32:41 <Steven1> you shouldnt keep score with nature bro... it tends to win.
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11:57:58 <Mekkis> !heh
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14:27:23 <Mekkis> What should my next character be?
14:27:39 <Mekkis> I was thinking perhaps a libertarian, or a communist
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16:18:01 <Steven1> the cipher in pillars of eternity are just so freaking overpowered.
16:25:49 <Avatar> like trying to keep score with a GM
18:55:13 <MekkisScreen> !item Witching Gown
18:55:15 <diebot> MekkisScreen, WITCHING GOWN [moderate abjuration] CL:7 body 35000gp, 1lb
18:55:15 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/witching_gown.html
18:56:50 <MekkisScreen> !item Cauldron of the Dead
18:56:50 <diebot> MekkisScreen, CAULDRON OF THE DEAD [faint transmutation] CL:5 none 30000gp, 35lb
18:56:50 <diebot> This cauldron of dark iron is large enough to accommodate a single Medium creature. When filled with a mixture of water and rare herbs, the cauldron transforms any dead body placed in it into a zombie as if animated by an animate dead spell. Each corpse animated uses up 25 gp in materials per Hit Die, and the cauldron can animate one corpse per
18:56:50 <diebot> round. The user of the cauldron commands the undead so created-up to 12 HD worth, unless the user can cast the animate dead spell, in which case that spell's limit is used; animating more beyond this limit causes earlier specimens to become uncontrolled. Source: Ultimate Equipment
18:59:31 <MekkisScreen> !spell magic vestment
18:59:32 <diebot> MekkisScreen, MAGIC VESTMENT transmutation ([]) cleric/oracle 3, inquisitor 3, shaman 3 1 standard action Range: touch armor or shield touched Comp: V, S, DF Duration: 1 hour/level Save: Will negates (harmless, object) SR:yes (harmless, object)Source: PFRPG Core
18:59:32 <diebot> You imbue a suit of armor or a shield with an enhancement bonus of +1 per four caster levels (maximum +5 at 20th level). An outfit of regular clothing counts as armor that grants no AC bonus for the purpose of this spell.
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20:36:54 <MekkisScreen> !hp 13d6m3
20:36:55 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 93
20:37:02 <MekkisScreen> !hp 13d8m2
20:37:02 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 94
20:37:18 <MekkisScreen> !hp 13d8m1
20:37:18 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 81
21:21:10 <Mekkis> !heh
23:37:59 <Mekkis> So. Succeeded in not getting killed in a bushfire.
23:38:07 <Mekkis> Mekkis 1, Australia 0.