// #d&d — 2015-12-02
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00:01:04 <Steven1> I dont rule it as mind affecting
00:02:55 <Mekkis> I imagined that
00:03:09 <Steven1> alright, prepped for tomorrow.
00:04:52 <Mekkis> I'm trying to work out what would happen in Act 7 of Eot10 if the PCs retreat, rest, and try again.
00:05:21 <Mekkis> I would imagine that the NPCs would take measures to deal with them...?
00:10:23 <Steven1> have fun.
00:11:25 <Steven1> bad things happen... time doesnt stop moving.
00:13:25 <Mekkis> yeah
00:13:47 <Mekkis> so you think they should arrive at Act 8 after It Has Happened?
00:14:19 <Steven1> i tend to find anymore then 3 classes makes things weird
00:14:58 <Steven1> yes.
00:15:25 <Mekkis> shit man. Okay...
00:18:38 <Mekkis> so what? They arrive in the courtyard to find it full of a crowd of peasants trying to break down the door to the keep under the direction of the judge?
00:51:32 <Mekkis> I'm trying to see the downside to multiclassing in 5e
01:00:28 <Mekkis> (FYI, this isn't hypothetical)
02:52:11 <Brunius> Mekkis, sure
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03:53:41 <Steven1> depending on how long they rest they find the courtyard with just a few people in it gathering bodies and heads for burial.
03:55:06 <Coopdawg> Hello?
04:40:52 <Mekkis> true, but probably less sustainable
04:41:05 <Mekkis> you need to hassle me every time it goes down
04:44:38 <Mekkis> What do you think, Avatar
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04:46:09 <Avatar> so after taking a break from pathfinder, it's dawned on me there is some really toxic crap on the messageboards
04:47:05 <Steven1> i had to run the blackrose connection tonight cold(ish)
04:48:26 <Steven1> well... i didnt have to but that is what everyone signed up for.
04:48:32 <Avatar> I don't know what act 7 is
04:49:23 <Steven1> and they had no GM.
04:50:14 <Steven1> had to GM again.
04:50:48 <Steven1> Nothing but OP characters. I managed to drop somebody to half health with two attacks.
04:50:58 <Steven1> both max damage.
04:51:10 <Steven1> then the creatures all died.
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04:53:36 <Steven1> none of the other creature in the scenaro managed to do damage.
04:54:51 Brunius is now known as Brunius1
04:56:26 <Mekkis> pm
05:01:57 <Mekkis> how did it go?
05:02:18 <Mekkis> I played it with someone running it cold, and was disappointed.
05:02:19 <Steven1> le sigh....
05:02:52 <Steven1> They were very ill prepared to play that scenario because instead of bringing their super kn based characters they brought their combat based characters.
05:03:11 <Steven1> and then they struggled.
05:04:27 <Steven1> but still managed to get it done under the time threshold because they got lesser restoration cast on them every day and just pulled triple research shifts.
05:04:48 <Steven1> took them 3 days to do the investigation even without being able to make the checks worth shit.
05:05:31 <Steven1> with this GM slot it finishes out my Faction Card on my Dark Archive Character.
05:06:09 <Steven1> except of course convincing someone to join the DA because nobody is ever willing to switch factions
05:10:34 <Steven1> Free scroll every mission
05:11:57 <Steven1> which teir did you play in mekkis?
05:14:47 <Steven1> my new favorite creature. Devil Mnemor.
05:15:34 <Steven1> I'll take a full attack... 2 claws w/ PA +9 for 1d6+4, Probocis +10 Touch(Memory Siphon)
05:17:08 <Steven1> memory siphon hits somebody with Memory Lapse no save.
05:17:43 <Steven1> AH SHIT DAVE HE SPOTTED US... Touch Attack... no he didnt.
05:25:27 <Steven1> my favorite part of the scenario was the influencing of the dimension that you go to. I never let them fail the checks, but if they didnt get high enough it didnt come out the way they wanted.
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05:27:31 <Steven1> like one of them wished for a specific type of weapon that would have been a +2 weapon, so DC14 i think. They rolled a 4, so instead of a +2 weapon sized for them it was a Tiny Sized weapon.
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05:42:35 <Avatar> hello? you have one minute to answer
06:03:47 <Brunius> bloody steve
07:30:53 <Mekkis> Steven1, have you looked at 5e?
07:32:14 <Mekkis> (Or Avatar...)
07:57:25 <Mekkis> Steven1, Should I really run it that way?
08:14:47 <Mekkis> what caused the revelation?
08:20:23 <Brunius> `op
08:25:10 <Mekkis> hey Brunius!
08:25:18 <Brunius> hey Mekk
08:30:12 <Mekkis> how have things been?
08:30:30 <Mekkis> Any plans on travel around December-January?
08:34:44 <Brunius> Just got back from Canberra (helping grandparents move), I'll be back up there from the 14th-20th, then off cruising the tropics until the 3rd of January
08:37:01 <Mekkis> What?
08:37:13 <Mekkis> You're in Canberra 14th to 20th of December?
08:37:29 <Brunius> Yes
08:37:30 <Mekkis> Why aren't we meeting up?
08:37:36 <Brunius> Because I'm slack
08:37:39 <Mekkis> Also, what tropics?
08:37:45 <Mekkis> Brisbane perchance?
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08:38:05 <Brunius> Off on a cruise ship, I'm not sure exactly which ports it's hitting
08:38:12 <Brunius> Just a vague idea that they're probably tropical
08:38:16 <Mekkis> ah, fair enough
08:38:19 <Avatar> not really
08:38:31 <Avatar> I think I glanced at it ages ago
08:38:36 <Mekkis> You're not heading from Canberra to Melbourne on the 20th are you?
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08:40:02 <Brunius> No, probably a greyhound to sydney
08:40:14 <Brunius> I know it's to sydney, don't know if we've decided on how to get there yet
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08:42:30 <Mekkis> I am
08:42:59 <Mekkis> So, are you free any time that you're here?
08:43:00 <Avatar> there was a thread a player made where his GM forced him to multiclass into a shitty build and he wanted advice on how to make it a less shitty build
08:43:20 <Mekkis> what?
08:43:29 <Avatar> some people just gave him build advice, other people were just saying the GM is a dick, tell him to f off
08:44:13 <Avatar> I asked for more of an explanation of why the GM said that, and I was getting told that that's not in question, the player just wants build advice and it's not for us to question it
08:44:37 <Brunius> Probably, it's far enough away that I don't think we've got anything specific planned
08:44:39 <Avatar> that went back and forth for a bit, and then liz courts acted as moderator and basically agreed, he just wants build advice, any other posts are unhelpful
08:44:45 <Mekkis> I dislike it when players refer to their characters as 'builds'
08:44:59 <Avatar> this was just about the build
08:45:07 <Mekkis> I know
08:45:51 <Mekkis> I think I played high tier
08:46:08 <Mekkis> I used my thing to cast Holy Sword :)
09:10:42 <Mekkis> pity you're not here on the 13th.
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09:19:27 <Avatar> what's going on brunius
09:19:31 <Avatar> you don't call you don't write
09:21:38 <Brunius> I moved
09:21:45 <Mekkis> What? where to?
09:21:55 <Mekkis> All this News!
09:22:02 <Brunius> then Win7 was like "Nah not gonna work" and in the switch to Win10 I stopped starting IRC regularly
09:22:14 <Brunius> Just about 20minutes east
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09:22:36 <Mekkis> What are you doing, not writing your IRC client?
09:22:45 <Brunius> pmuch
09:23:18 <Brunius> At some point in that I started using linux for my coding and discovered just how dumb windows is
09:23:44 <Mekkis> So, why aren't you running linux then?
09:24:05 <Brunius> I'm using it on my laptop, but my desktop is mainly for gaming, which for the moment means mostly Windows
09:24:29 <Mekkis> and your IRC isn't on your laptop?
09:24:38 <Mekkis> you in second or third year?
09:24:40 Brunius is now known as Brunius1
09:24:45 <Brunius> just finished first
09:24:55 <Mekkis> ah, cool
09:25:00 <Mekkis> Got work experience lined up?
09:25:21 <Brunius> Not yet, I'm planning on slotting that in between either second and third year or third and fourth
09:37:49 <Mekkis> How about Thursday 17th?
09:37:57 <Mekkis> evening
10:53:50 <Relaxer> Thanksgiving this week...
11:22:02 <Relaxer> Well, he did come in looking for advice on his character.
11:22:24 <Relaxer> Other questions are aside the point.
11:23:27 <Relaxer> If it was asked in here i would demand to know more information on what happened, but then again this is a much different culture then the paizo boards.
13:34:25 <Steven1> yeah, its on the bookshelf with the pathfinder stuff.
15:17:07 <Steven> mesaged you mekkis
15:17:38 <Steven> messaged^
17:15:35 <Avatar> right, the culture on paizo boards is toxic if they think a GM trying to make a player do that without explanation is okay
17:26:04 <Relaxer> If a player did something in one of my games that drastically impacted his chracter i might force him to take a class.
17:27:04 <Relaxer> It would haave to be pretty insane though.
17:29:56 <Avatar> that's fine, but you have an explanation for it
17:30:13 <Avatar> these guys are saying don't ask him for an explanation, only offer build ideas and nothing else
17:30:38 <Avatar> like get some humanity people
17:42:12 <Avatar> not here
17:57:30 <Mekkis> thanks Steven
18:16:24 <Mekkis> Does Tonya do anything on the boards?
18:19:27 <Avatar> I think she's more involved than mike
18:23:57 <Avatar> what's most important is that she doesn't seem to be as cynical as mike
18:24:32 <Relaxer> give her a year.
18:35:16 <Avatar> ha
19:10:15 <bardocker> hi
19:28:12 <Relaxer> I have decided on the next character i am going to make.
19:28:26 <Relaxer> for any game i get invited to.
19:29:25 <Relaxer> Halfling Hunter with a Rhino Animal companion that will always be refered to as Tank Dog.
19:40:33 <Avatar> 27510-378
19:44:21 <Relaxer> i dont make new characters for pfs. It will be a year before there are enoughs scenarios to warrent another character
19:58:01 <Avatar> you make a lot of characters
20:03:05 <Relaxer> I get asked to make characters for stuff.
20:04:27 <Relaxer> i have 30 characters in pfs, and about 15 in APs.
20:06:17 <Relaxer> I just built the character for the next ap i am going to play in, whatever it is.
20:26:38 Topic for #d&d is: AEDT (UTC+11:00) || Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au || https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/pathfinder-society-online-collective
20:26:38 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Nov 30 19:02:39 2015
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20:30:37 <Relaxer> Gonna rock me some turkey this thursday.
20:31:01 <Relaxer> and get some cactus cooler
20:49:46 <Avatar> mate I've heard it all before
21:25:01 <Relaxer> I doubt it. There are a lot of words and combinations of those words... You've not been alive long enough to heard it all before.
21:32:00 <Avatar> I've heard it all before
21:41:53 <Steven1> yo mekkis, do you know a fast way to strip a password from a .rar
21:43:44 <Mekkis> depends
21:43:47 <Mekkis> do you know the password?
21:47:09 <Steven1> I remember part of it.
22:33:26 <spider21b> hi
22:39:55 <Relaxer> I doubt it. There are a lot of words and combinations of those words... You've not been alive long enough to heard it all before.
22:49:52 <Relaxer> if you want avatar, i will make a character for you.
22:54:19 <Relaxer> how about a Paladin Psychic Dragon Disciple?
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23:01:30 <Avatar> no mate I don't need a character
23:01:35 <Avatar> I am sure you would make one for me
23:01:36 <Avatar> at least one
23:04:47 <Mekkis> I'm looking at trying some Extreme Multiclassing
23:05:24 <Mekkis> Steven1, unlike zip, Rar uses pretty good encryption.
23:05:36 <Mekkis> !hp 13d6m3
23:05:37 <diebot> Mekkis, 93
23:05:44 <Steven1> yeah i know... it real annoying.
23:06:16 <Mekkis> you could attempt something like scripting unrar to attempt a list of password
23:06:20 <Mekkis> but it's not easy
23:07:11 <Mekkis> Hmmm... My sorcerer just hit 13th level. Suggestions for a feat?
23:15:55 <Relaxer> It would be an awesome character.
23:21:39 <Steven1> i think im just going to buckledown and respend the money to get this document sent to me.
23:22:07 <Steven1> goodbye 30 bucks.
23:22:28 <Mekkis> ?
23:22:35 <Mekkis> what document?
23:24:13 <Steven1> It has to do with my certification, I passworded it because people got onto my computer at the shop and were dickin around one day bout a year and a half back.
23:24:43 <Mekkis> ah.
23:25:48 <Mekkis> What's the point of Shadow Step? Isn't it just a Bad Version of Dimension Door?
23:28:41 <Mekkis> looks like I'll take Antithetical Constraint. It sounds fun
23:28:58 <Steven1> its an illusion spell not a conjuration spell.
23:29:09 <Steven1> other then that its the same thing.
23:29:44 <Mekkis> and you can't take your friends along, and it requires somatic components
23:30:30 <Mekkis> except that I need to take dimensional anchor :(
23:40:07 <Mekkis> !item staff of the master
23:40:08 <diebot> Mekkis, STAFF OF THE MASTER [moderate necromancy] CL:8 none 30000gp, 5lb
23:40:09 <diebot> Often given as gifts to apprentices upon reaching the rank of master, these staves come in eight different varieties, one for each school of magic. This particular staff is for the school of necromancy. Aside from acting as a +1/+1 quarterstaff, this staff allows use of the following spells: • Ray of enfeeblement (1 charge) • Spectral hand (1
23:40:09 <diebot> charge) • Vampiric touch (2 charges) In addition, this staff can be used to cast spells using any metamagic feats known by the wielder without increasing the spell's level. This consumes a number of charges equal to the number of spell levels increased by the feat. No more than one feat can be applied to a spell cast by the wielder in this way.
23:40:09 <diebot> Using the staff for this purpose does not increase the casting time of the spell. Source: Ultimate Equipment
23:40:20 <a> there any active irc channels for pathfinder?
23:40:34 <Mekkis> hmm
23:40:39 <Mekkis> Quickened Dominate Person sounds fun
23:45:54 <Steven1> meh.
23:46:12 <Mekkis> main issue with Dominate Person is its casting time
23:46:47 <Steven1> my main issue with dominate spells is that it usually completely ruins the fun for one person.
23:48:35 <Mekkis> I'm talking as a PC, not as an NPC
23:50:01 <Steven1> my list is pretty much no dominate stuff and no confusions stuff.
23:50:15 <Steven1> other then that i pretty much bbuild whatever.
23:52:15 <Steven1> but every time as a GM i've dominated somebody, the table fun just nosedives.
23:52:56 <Mekkis> would you fault a GM who rules that all dazing effects are mind-affecting?
23:53:37 <Steven1> as a player i've used control undead... and then i dick around with my actual character and play my undead instead of my actual character.
23:53:57 <Steven1> but again, it was pretty boring.
23:54:22 <Steven1> daze does not list that it is a mind affecting condition.
23:55:10 <Steven1> dazed just says the creature is unable to act normally.
23:55:27 <Mekkis> Would you fault a GM who ruled otherwise?
23:56:31 <Steven1> i'd inform them of the condition and that Raw it is not a mind affecting condition. Then I'd continue on with my day.
23:56:55 <Mekkis> fair enough
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