// #d&d — 2015-06-21
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01:16:28 <Mekkis> Avatar, would you let PCs in your game buy or make Quicklime?
01:20:45 <Avatar> what's that
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01:29:13 <steven> hey hey
01:34:43 <Ulzef> hello people
01:42:57 <Mekkis> Calcium Oxide
01:45:19 <Avatar> no I doubt it
01:47:40 <Avatar> ulzef
01:47:48 <Avatar> + steven
01:47:55 <steven> what up playa!
01:48:00 <Avatar> playin'
01:52:59 <steven> I took a power nap... its powered me into feeling like shit.
02:04:19 <steven> and here i thought we were going to talk.
02:04:29 <steven> i guess ill just go play some path of exile.
02:07:19 <steven> i might get to play Council of Thieves tomorrow.
02:07:25 <steven> would be pretty fuckin sweet
02:08:32 <steven> start playin my Ranger/Monk....
02:10:03 <steven> my goal with the character is basically to be able to use anything as a weapon
02:11:25 <steven> so 2nd level goin monk pick up improved unarmed strike, and Catch Offguard.
02:14:08 <steven> so avatar that game you playing. Looks a lot like a metroid type game.
02:22:33 <Brunius> Mekkis: Any idea how long PF on the 27th is gonna be?
02:47:36 <Mekkis> It will finish not after 1330, Brunius. Do you require it to finish earlier?
02:47:54 <Brunius> nope
02:51:53 <Mekkis> Bloody hell. Another blackout
02:55:19 <Steven> yo
02:56:07 <Brunius> You should protest outside parliament
02:56:13 <Brunius> That's how things get done in canberra right
02:56:34 <Steven> one of the players got sick today... didnt get to play.
03:04:16 <Steven> on the plus side though... red beans and rice
03:06:55 <steven> i really dislike my dads neighbors.
03:07:11 <steven> midnight and they are out dicking around with their shitty cars making a bunch of noise
03:09:33 <Mekkis> Brunius, yeah... except...
03:09:50 <Mekkis> In Canberra you can't go anywhere without a car.
03:09:59 <Mekkis> And my car's in a secure garage.
03:10:09 <Mekkis> And the garage's doors require power to open
03:11:50 <steven> shitty titties
03:15:50 <steven> im bored as fuck.
03:30:30 <Steven> made a ranger/monk
03:30:54 <Steven1> 300g to spend on consumibles
03:31:02 <Steven1> can include partial charged wands.... what to get what to get.
03:31:10 <Steven> should be decent
03:31:28 <Steven> by level 3 i'll have 7 feats.
03:34:01 <Ulzef> then you could go 2 levels of fighter and have 10 by 5 :O
03:50:13 <Avatar`> ranger/monk is a very strange combination of character
03:50:23 <Avatar> a partially charged wand
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04:03:45 <Steven1> i bought a clw wand w/ 13 charge
04:03:47 <Steven1> charges
04:05:39 <Avatar> bit dull
04:05:54 <Avatar> of all the partially charged wands to buy
04:06:22 <Steven1> Limited to core
04:06:27 <Steven1> and im a ranger.
04:07:53 <Avatar> are you saying core doesn't have a lot of great spells
04:08:10 <Avatar> clw is the one wand you want fully charged
04:10:26 <Steven1> Core Rangers dont have a lot of spells to choose from.
04:10:47 <Avatar> you can probably pick just about any other range spell and it will be a better choice for a partially changed wand than that
04:10:51 <Avatar> ranger*
04:11:18 <Steven1> like.... endure elements?
04:11:21 <Steven1> or jump
04:11:23 <Avatar> yes
04:12:00 <Steven1> OR... i could purchase a wand that keeps me fighting after being in the slogfest that is nearly every book one of an AP
04:13:36 <Steven1> the spell selection is great if i could afford some of the wands of 2nd level spells
04:14:03 <Steven1> like rangers get resist energy as a 1st level spell.
04:14:18 <Steven1> pretty great, but i dont want to spend 90g a charge on it when a scroll is cheaper.
04:14:42 <Steven1> nevermind its not.
04:14:49 <Steven1> its 150 fr a 2nd level scroll
04:15:46 <Steven1> gonna pick up a scroll of entangle though.
04:18:05 <Steven1> once i get some more gold i can purchase some more utility items. I'd rather have a weapon for every situation.
04:22:50 <Steven1> alrighty... goin to sleep. gotta actually do stuff tomorrow.
04:24:35 <Steven1> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2scj5?Do-Pearls-of-Power-count-as-gems-for-the
04:24:52 <Steven1> I've recieved private messages stating i dont know what im talking about.
04:25:03 * Steven1 facepalm
04:32:06 <Avatar> what is the faction mission they are talking about there
04:32:17 <Avatar> like what does it say
04:32:37 <Avatar> I hate it when they don't quote the rule they're talking about
04:35:23 <Steven1> scarab sages, you need to recover a gemstone worth 400+100g/level
04:35:38 <Steven1> sorry not gemstone, simply a gem.
04:36:20 <Steven1> exact text being "Recover a gem worth at least 400 gp plus 100 gp per level you possess during an adventure."
04:37:15 <Mekkis> oh no
04:39:30 <Avatar> not sure what else could be meant by that
04:39:41 <Avatar> I'm sure pearl of power wasn't intended, but what other gems are there
04:39:51 <Avatar> to the point where you could determine price
04:44:41 <Steven1> elemental gems
04:44:46 <Steven1> gem of brightness
04:44:54 <Steven1> demonsensing gem
04:45:29 <Ulzef> i hate the "Table variation rule". one of these days someone is gonna get perma banned for "cheating" due to table variation
04:45:36 <Steven1> Diamond of Demon Sensing
04:46:11 <Steven1> I love the table variation rule. It allows me to be flexible as a GM
04:46:35 <Ulzef> but as a side note it does not say a "non-magical gem" and thats all i am gonna say
04:46:50 <Avatar> I don't know what any of those gems are. are they other wondrous items
04:46:59 <Steven1> I agree It doesn't say a non-magical gem.
04:47:00 <Mekkis> I can see it working
04:47:08 <Steven1> Yes they are all wonderous Items.
04:47:31 <Avatar> I am talking about non-wondrous items
04:48:02 <Steven1> Elemental Gems do not state what kind of gem they are made out of so i disqualify them because i'm unable to assign a value to the gem.
04:48:16 <steven> yup
04:48:28 <steven> so ive decided to download path of exile
04:48:35 <steven> so i can waste some time on that.
04:48:44 <Avatar> just rule table variance on them
04:48:54 <Steven1> exactly.
04:48:54 <Avatar> hell, roll the dice !
04:49:10 <Steven1> sounds reasonable as well.
04:49:41 <Avatar> it seems like it's the kind of answer john could jump on
04:49:49 <Avatar> has it been waiting a week
04:50:12 <Avatar> I haven't been on the forums hardly at all recently because too busy with work
04:50:21 <Steven1> 5-6 days
04:50:59 <Avatar> that sounds like they made a mistake
04:51:01 <steven> and while i wait for that im reading the new playtest document
04:51:12 <Steven1> i think its one of those things where brock doesnt want to comment because then people will be upset with the ruling he will force down the neck of half of the people.
04:51:36 <Avatar> how can they
04:51:48 <Avatar> either wondrous items are okay or they're not
04:51:55 <Mekkis> new playtest document?
04:52:04 <Avatar> the intent of that is a bit dumb to complain about
04:52:54 <steven> http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/ultimateIntrigue
04:53:09 <Steven1> become some of us feel that the magic is making the item worth that much not the gemstone.
04:53:38 <Mekkis> is it PFS legal?
04:54:16 <Steven1> like a first level pearl of power means you can mark that faction goal off your character sheet up to 6th level. making it much less of a challenge.
04:54:25 <Avatar> if the intent was that the gemstone is meant to be a story based thing rather than a random wondrous item you can buy for two dorra then that's the be all end all of it
04:54:54 <Steven1> could it be intended to be that easy? sure
04:55:26 <Avatar> but who's going to say boo hoo you guys are dicks that a pearl of power doesn't work for that mission
04:55:34 <Steven1> but i personally dont think the scarab sages care about a pearl so common a wizard could make one of them in a day.
04:55:34 <Avatar> fuckin' nobody!
04:55:39 <Avatar> yeah exactly
04:55:57 <steven> yes
04:56:42 <Steven1> but anyways... yeah ive gotten personal messages telling me im wrong about a gem being a stone... which... i never fucking said it wa a stone.
04:57:12 <Ulzef> just saying but pearls of power require caster level 17
04:58:01 <Mekkis> Not as bad as the Take Ten 'ruling'
04:58:10 <Avatar> what's the take 10 ruling
04:58:22 <Mekkis> "We're not ruling on this"
04:58:30 <Steven1> and i've also gotten one that said limestone is effectively a pearl... and i told him ill trade him straight across.
04:58:38 <Steven1> ulzef theres a faq on that.
04:58:39 <Steven1> http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9n8m
04:59:14 <Steven1> he gives me pearls and ill give him limestone... he didnt respond back.
05:03:03 <Ulzef> better than the take 10 ruling Jena hit me with in hinojin mekkis
05:03:24 <Ulzef> think it was hinojin anyway
05:03:49 <Ulzef> the if you take 10 on perception everywhere you will become fatigued
05:04:00 <Steven1> think its time to make some dinner.
05:04:56 <steven> well thats good... looks like there will NOT be an Extra vigilante talent feat.
05:05:22 <steven> because damn some of these are broken as shit
05:05:38 <Mekkis> oh yeah
05:05:39 <Mekkis> that
05:19:30 <Mekkis> bloody hell.
05:24:04 <Steven1> yup... pretty boring night.
05:30:59 <Avatar> yeah I bet you can see a mix of chow yun fat and aragorn if the mechanics work just right
05:31:58 <Mekkis> either take the unarmed ranger style or the zen archer monk....
05:35:12 <Mekkis> balls!
06:16:41 <Mekkis> is it really necessary>
06:18:13 <steven> aprantly yes
06:20:23 <Brunius> so the new beta bar venue is right next to swinny
06:23:42 <Mekkis> the class? or the fact that Paizo needs to churn out more sourcebooks?
06:24:59 <Mekkis> What do you call a mask that covers from the nose downwards?
06:43:38 <steven> iunno
07:08:22 <steven> and the second is.... a mask
07:08:32 <Avatar> what is the beta bar
07:29:32 <Avatar> you guys seen this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/legendarygames/legendary-planet-adventure-path
07:35:16 <Avatar> there actually isn't that many backers but somehow they've gotten to $21k?
07:35:18 <Avatar> does that add up?
07:36:57 <Mekkis> sure, any more specific terms?
07:42:17 <Mekkis> steven, want some magic trivia?
07:43:47 <steven> im sure there is a specific term, but i cant think of it at the moment
07:43:57 <steven> and no... i dont want to deal with any more magic shit today.
07:44:05 <Mekkis> As in the game
07:44:36 <Avatar> why can't paizo just stop selling things :(
07:46:10 <steven> because they are a business
07:51:40 <Mekkis> Why can't Paizo start selling more of the right things :P
07:52:12 <Avatar> what are the right things
07:52:18 <Avatar> errata?
07:52:27 <Mekkis> Scenarios
07:52:49 <Avatar> well you got me there
07:53:02 <Avatar> I guess the writers are busier than the designers
07:55:07 <Mekkis> I mean, Paizo used to pretty much exclusively release APs
07:55:39 <Mekkis> What actually is the definition of a "low-magic" game?
07:57:13 <steven> basically magic items are fairly rare
07:57:29 <steven> you'd get a +1 weapon at 7th level or so
07:58:34 <steven> get injured in a fight spend a week or two getting healed up in town
07:58:57 <steven> rather then burning a wand of CLW
08:06:04 <Mekkis> mmm
08:07:01 <Mekkis> So in this 'low magic' 3.5e game, it seems that some of the PCs are very much into killing things in order to get XP
08:10:00 <Mekkis> Is it normal for a group of level 5-6 characters to think that taking on a group of CR12 creatures is a good idea?
08:10:41 <steven> who knows.
08:10:46 <steven> depends on their point buy.
08:11:07 <steven> like if they got to roll for stats and got a bunch of 18s they might be able to do that.
08:12:09 <Mekkis> 28 point buy (roughly equivalent to Pathfinder's 20)
08:14:00 <steven> then there is the whole thing of is it a group of cr 12 creatures or a bunch o creatures that add up to being CR12
08:14:13 <Mekkis> there were four CR12 creatures.
08:14:27 <steven> yeah fuck that shit...
08:14:27 <Mekkis> We took out two of them, and the other two ran off to get reinforcements
08:15:47 <steven> like i wouldnt want to play with that encounter when i was level 4
08:16:43 <steven> probably wouldnt want to get invovled till i was level 8 at the earliest
08:16:54 <Mekkis> oh, and it reminds me on one of the issues with 3.5e: XP tables.
08:17:37 <Mekkis> how the amount of XP you get is based on how your level compares to the CR of the enemy
08:18:30 <Mekkis> For a fifth-level character, defeating a CR12 monster, you get 18000XP / size of party.
08:18:49 <Mekkis> For a sixth-level character, defeating the same monster, you get 14400XP / size of party.
08:18:57 <Mekkis> Makes the DM's job harder
08:26:34 <Mekkis>
08:26:57 <Mekkis> One thing that I do know is that I probably should be absolutely sure of having the ability to run.
08:45:10 <Brunius> `op
09:21:21 <Avatar> oh god the XP tables.
09:21:48 <Avatar> it probably is normal for some people to try take on CR 12 bad guys at level 5 if they munchkin it
09:21:51 <Mekkis> Steven1, wand of delay poison
09:38:46 <Mekkis> Avatar, probably someone very altruistic
11:18:51 <Mekkis> Avatar, would you let PCs in your game buy or make Quicklime?
11:23:09 <Avatar> what's that
11:39:58 <Steven1> 7 people pledged 400 2 people pledged 500
11:45:21 <Mekkis> Calcium Oxide
11:47:43 <Avatar> no I doubt it
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15:26:49 <steven> hey hey
15:32:19 <Ulzef> hello people
15:45:15 <Avatar> ulzef
15:45:24 <Avatar> + steven
15:45:31 <steven> what up playa!
15:45:36 <Avatar> playin'
15:50:35 <steven> I took a power nap... its powered me into feeling like shit.
16:01:55 <steven> and here i thought we were going to talk.
16:02:05 <steven> i guess ill just go play some path of exile.
16:04:55 <steven> i might get to play Council of Thieves tomorrow.
16:05:00 <steven> would be pretty fuckin sweet
16:06:08 <steven> start playin my Ranger/Monk....
16:07:39 <steven> my goal with the character is basically to be able to use anything as a weapon
16:09:01 <steven> so 2nd level goin monk pick up improved unarmed strike, and Catch Offguard.
16:11:43 <steven> so avatar that game you playing. Looks a lot like a metroid type game.
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16:20:08 <Brunius> Mekkis: Any idea how long PF on the 27th is gonna be?
16:45:11 <Mekkis> It will finish not after 1330, Brunius. Do you require it to finish earlier?
16:45:30 <Brunius> nope
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16:49:27 <Mekkis> Bloody hell. Another blackout
16:53:44 <Brunius> You should protest outside parliament
16:53:50 <Brunius> That's how things get done in canberra right
17:04:30 <steven> i really dislike my dads neighbors.
17:04:47 <steven> midnight and they are out dicking around with their shitty cars making a bunch of noise
17:07:08 <Mekkis> Brunius, yeah... except...
17:07:25 <Mekkis> In Canberra you can't go anywhere without a car.
17:07:34 <Mekkis> And my car's in a secure garage.
17:07:44 <Mekkis> And the garage's doors require power to open
17:09:26 <steven> shitty titties
17:39:43 <Avatar> where is steven
17:39:50 <Avatar> that only adds up to $3100
17:40:27 <Avatar> oh I see what's going on
17:41:04 <Avatar> you can add more to your pledge to get more books, so backers for the $20 pledge might actually be something like $85
17:41:38 <Avatar> I kind of only want to get matt's book
18:29:27 <Mekkis> Avatar, Quicklime was available to the ancient greeks
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18:45:03 <Steven1> !throw 1d6
18:45:04 <diebot> Steven1, 1d6: [1d6=2] 2
19:02:41 <Mekkis> Avatar, Matt Goodall?
19:39:27 <Avatar> steven: it's brilliant
19:39:39 <Avatar> it rips off a lot of metroid
19:46:56 <Ulzef> mek you know when paizocon aus details will be up on warhorn
19:54:42 <steven> nice mang nice
19:54:51 <steven> I've been playing a decent amount of path of exile
20:11:17 <steven> dads neighbors are arguing loudly in the street
20:11:59 <steven> about the guy working on his car and making a bunch of noise... because you know... yelling is much quieter
20:14:57 <steven> alright... had enough. If you guys never hear from me again. Its because i was shot by a meth addict.
20:17:29 <steven> sweet.
20:18:49 <steven> just walked outside, "Can you guys keep it down it 320am and I'm tired." They appologized walked back in their house and are quiet.
20:32:56 <Mekkis> Ulzef, no, I don't...
20:32:59 <Mekkis> Are they?
20:57:54 <steven> have a good night guys, im going to go catch an hour or two worth of sleep
21:07:21 <Ulzef> you mean they won't? how would you book sessions then?
21:07:39 <Ulzef> i wanna check games and gm's to decide if it is worth the trip
22:36:52 <Mekkis> Ulzef, I won't know when it's on warhorn before you do.
22:37:01 <Mekkis> Unless I can get info out of Phil
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