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// #d&d — 2015-06-19

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02:54:42 <Steven1> alright time to build a throw away character
02:54:48 <Steven1> !rand m f
02:54:53 <Steven1> !rng m f
02:54:53 <diebot> Steven1, m
02:55:19 <Steven> yo
02:56:20 <Steven1> !throw 2d6; 2d8; 2d8
02:56:20 <diebot> Steven1, 2d6: [2d6=5,3] 8; 2d8: [2d8=2,3] 5; 2d8: [2d8=2,1] 3
02:56:34 <Steven> one of the players got sick today... didnt get to play.
03:04:16 <Steven> on the plus side though... red beans and rice
03:18:15 <Steven1> !throw 5d6
03:18:15 <diebot> Steven1, 5d6: [5d6=4,3,4,5,1] 17
03:21:12 <Ulzef> Heya people of the land of internerds
03:21:33 <Steven1> what up
03:24:44 <Ulzef> WTF GARG they release a new aditional resources and don't include the monster summoners book GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRR
03:29:56 <Steven1> sup
03:30:30 <Steven> made a ranger/monk
03:30:54 <Steven1> 300g to spend on consumibles
03:31:02 <Steven1> can include partial charged wands.... what to get what to get.
03:31:10 <Steven> should be decent
03:31:28 <Steven> by level 3 i'll have 7 feats.
03:31:32 <Ulzef> PAIZO ARE JERKS. the can ban the base summoner and make you go the unleashed one before the PDF of the book is even availible to non-subscribers but they update and dont include monster summoners hand book.
03:34:01 <Ulzef> then you could go 2 levels of fighter and have 10 by 5 :O
03:37:59 <Avatar> double dare you to make a post saying that
03:38:33 <Ulzef> i may have said worse to gitch
03:40:07 <Ulzef> i may have suggested they were to busy inbreeding to do there jobs in less polite words.
03:41:36 <Avatar> I can't do a female character
03:41:52 <Ulzef> i may have a character that i wanted to start very sortly that is very reliant on that book
03:44:26 <Steven1> its all the same to me.
03:45:26 <Steven1> time to find a trait for a ranger that fits in.
03:50:13 <Avatar`> ranger/monk is a very strange combination of character
03:50:23 <Avatar> a partially charged wand
03:50:47 <Avatar> just can't roleplay a girl very well
03:51:04 <Steven1> I have some tissues here.
03:51:19 <Avatar> had to do it with my witch and it was tough as nails
03:52:45 <Ulzef> they did not put Cohorts in there ether and thats a month old i at least expected them to say everything was banne from it with maybe a couple of exceptions. felt like they did a shoody job with it. almost like hey we have been busy with paizo con and havn't updated this since apiril lets put something out
03:55:23 <Ulzef> i wouldn't take you tissues Steven1 you might need them next time you need to GM non-core games
03:55:47 <Steven1> They are probably still reviewing it.
03:55:56 <Steven1> Its paizocon/gencon season.
03:56:12 <Steven1> very little gets done in terms of sactioning new content during this time of the year
03:56:36 <Ulzef> yeah i know and i get shitty about it each year
03:56:38 <Steven1> Its a huge pain in the ass.
03:57:34 <Steven1> I liked how they made paizocon happen on memorial weekend... a lot less crunch then last year.
03:58:12 <Avatar> what up
03:58:45 <Ulzef> eh as someone who does not get to go i sorta wish it was still in July I had planned on getting there one day and would have liked to see a 4th of july while visiting
04:03:45 <Steven1> i bought a clw wand w/ 13 charge
04:03:47 <Steven1> charges
04:05:39 <Avatar> bit dull
04:05:54 <Avatar> of all the partially charged wands to buy
04:06:22 <Steven1> Limited to core
04:06:27 <Steven1> and im a ranger.
04:07:53 <Avatar> are you saying core doesn't have a lot of great spells
04:08:10 <Avatar> clw is the one wand you want fully charged
04:09:05 <Steven1> eatin pot pie
04:09:47 <Steven1> imagine a bunch of idiots getting drunk and playing with stuff that explodes.
04:09:57 <Steven1> and you have it.
04:10:26 <Steven1> Core Rangers dont have a lot of spells to choose from.
04:10:47 <Avatar> you can probably pick just about any other range spell and it will be a better choice for a partially changed wand than that
04:10:51 <Avatar> ranger*
04:11:14 <Ulzef> yeah i like fireworks though and i hear you guys do it well on 4th of july
04:11:18 <Steven1> like.... endure elements?
04:11:21 <Steven1> or jump
04:11:23 <Avatar> yes
04:12:00 <Steven1> OR... i could purchase a wand that keeps me fighting after being in the slogfest that is nearly every book one of an AP
04:13:36 <Steven1> the spell selection is great if i could afford some of the wands of 2nd level spells
04:14:03 <Steven1> like rangers get resist energy as a 1st level spell.
04:14:18 <Steven1> pretty great, but i dont want to spend 90g a charge on it when a scroll is cheaper.
04:14:42 <Steven1> nevermind its not.
04:14:49 <Steven1> its 150 fr a 2nd level scroll
04:15:46 <Steven1> gonna pick up a scroll of entangle though.
04:18:05 <Steven1> once i get some more gold i can purchase some more utility items. I'd rather have a weapon for every situation.
04:21:47 <Mekkis> !spell Ancestoral Regression
04:21:50 <diebot> Mekkis, ANCESTRAL REGRESSION transmutation (polymorph[]) alchemist 2, antipaladin 3, cleric/oracle 2, sorcerer/wizard 3, witch 2 1 standard action Range: touch willing drow touched Comp: V, S Duration: 24 hours (D) Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: Advanced Race Guide
04:21:50 <diebot> The target drow transforms into a surface elf. The drow loses her darkvision and light-blindness racial traits and gains the low-light vision racial trait in their place. The alignment and personality of the drow are not affected by the transformation, but the spell conceals her alignment as an undetectable alignment spell. The spell grants the
04:21:50 <diebot> target a +10 bonus on Disguise checks to pass as an elf, though she appears to be an elven analog of herself and can be recognized as such by other drow who know her.
04:22:50 <Steven1> alrighty... goin to sleep. gotta actually do stuff tomorrow.
04:23:15 <Steven1> avatar... name two skills.
04:23:17 <Mekkis> !item boots of the mire
04:23:18 <diebot> Mekkis, BOOTS OF THE MIRE [faint abjuration and transmutation] CL:5 feet 3500gp, 1lb
04:23:18 <diebot> These soft leather boots confer several powers upon the wearer. First, he is granted the power to walk on water in swampy environments, provided the water is no deeper than 5 feet-this effectively lets him move through swampy terrain and mud at no cost to his speed. He leaves no tracks or other signs of his passage as long as he's in swampy
04:23:18 <diebot> terrain, and never becomes uncomfortable or wet from rain, fog, or other forms of non-freezing precipitation. Finally, the boots grant him a +2 resistance bonus on all Fortitude saves made against poison and disease. Source: Ultimate Equipment
04:23:34 <Steven1> they tend to set off a lot of fireworks.
04:23:35 <Steven1> that a ranger/bard would reasonably have.
04:23:42 <Steven1> I don't enjoy it as much as i did when i was a kid.
04:24:04 <Steven1> after my lungs got wrecked it pretty much became one of the worst days of the year for me.
04:24:21 <Steven1> Also.... this thread is fuckin stupid.
04:24:35 <Steven1> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2scj5?Do-Pearls-of-Power-count-as-gems-for-the
04:24:52 <Steven1> I've recieved private messages stating i dont know what im talking about.
04:25:03 * Steven1 facepalm
04:27:57 <Avatar> mekkis sometimes I reckon you don't like seeing that we have been having a conversation so you use diebot to bring up spells or items or feats to move the conversation further up
04:28:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, I'm surprised you think that I'm so naïve...
04:29:32 <Mekkis> Steven1, have you heard of any VCs getting replaced?
04:29:41 <Mekkis> one of my local players is asking
04:30:05 <Steven1> yes
04:30:29 <Mekkis> what was the process?
04:31:06 <Steven1> usually removal of vo status followed by a promotion of someone else.
04:31:36 <Mekkis> I mean, was it players complaining higher up?
04:31:39 <Mekkis> or...?
04:32:06 <Avatar> what is the faction mission they are talking about there
04:32:17 <Avatar> like what does it say
04:32:35 <Steven1> brocks policy is to Praise in public, punish in private
04:32:37 <Avatar> I hate it when they don't quote the rule they're talking about
04:32:53 <Steven1> so he doesnt make details of why people were removed public
04:33:28 <Mekkis> which really does make sense. But the question that he's asking is "how would he be removed"?
04:33:57 <Mekkis> (but it is good to know that there is a precedent)
04:35:23 <Steven1> scarab sages, you need to recover a gemstone worth 400+100g/level
04:35:35 <Steven1> !throw 1d35
04:35:36 <diebot> Steven1, 1d35: [1d35=30] 30
04:35:38 <Steven1> sorry not gemstone, simply a gem.
04:36:06 <Steven1> !throw 1d35
04:36:07 <diebot> Steven1, 1d35: [1d35=12] 12
04:36:20 <Steven1> exact text being "Recover a gem worth at least 400 gp plus 100 gp per level you possess during an adventure."
04:37:23 <Steven1> I havent been removed so i dont know the exact process
04:39:30 <Avatar> not sure what else could be meant by that
04:39:41 <Avatar> I'm sure pearl of power wasn't intended, but what other gems are there
04:39:51 <Avatar> to the point where you could determine price
04:44:41 <Steven1> elemental gems
04:44:46 <Steven1> gem of brightness
04:44:54 <Steven1> demonsensing gem
04:45:29 <Ulzef> i hate the "Table variation rule". one of these days someone is gonna get perma banned for "cheating" due to table variation
04:45:36 <Steven1> Diamond of Demon Sensing
04:46:11 <Steven1> I love the table variation rule. It allows me to be flexible as a GM
04:46:35 <Ulzef> but as a side note it does not say a "non-magical gem" and thats all i am gonna say
04:46:50 <Avatar> I don't know what any of those gems are. are they other wondrous items
04:46:59 <Steven1> I agree It doesn't say a non-magical gem.
04:47:00 <Mekkis> I can see it working
04:47:08 <Steven1> Yes they are all wonderous Items.
04:47:31 <Avatar> I am talking about non-wondrous items
04:48:02 <Steven1> Elemental Gems do not state what kind of gem they are made out of so i disqualify them because i'm unable to assign a value to the gem.
04:48:44 <Avatar> just rule table variance on them
04:48:54 <Steven1> exactly.
04:48:54 <Avatar> hell, roll the dice !
04:49:10 <Steven1> sounds reasonable as well.
04:49:41 <Avatar> it seems like it's the kind of answer john could jump on
04:49:49 <Avatar> has it been waiting a week
04:50:12 <Avatar> I haven't been on the forums hardly at all recently because too busy with work
04:50:21 <Steven1> 5-6 days
04:50:59 <Avatar> that sounds like they made a mistake
04:51:12 <Steven1> i think its one of those things where brock doesnt want to comment because then people will be upset with the ruling he will force down the neck of half of the people.
04:51:36 <Avatar> how can they
04:51:48 <Avatar> either wondrous items are okay or they're not
04:52:04 <Avatar> the intent of that is a bit dumb to complain about
04:53:09 <Steven1> become some of us feel that the magic is making the item worth that much not the gemstone.
04:54:16 <Steven1> like a first level pearl of power means you can mark that faction goal off your character sheet up to 6th level. making it much less of a challenge.
04:54:25 <Avatar> if the intent was that the gemstone is meant to be a story based thing rather than a random wondrous item you can buy for two dorra then that's the be all end all of it
04:54:54 <Steven1> could it be intended to be that easy? sure
04:55:26 <Avatar> but who's going to say boo hoo you guys are dicks that a pearl of power doesn't work for that mission
04:55:34 <Steven1> but i personally dont think the scarab sages care about a pearl so common a wizard could make one of them in a day.
04:55:34 <Avatar> fuckin' nobody!
04:55:39 <Avatar> yeah exactly
04:56:42 <Steven1> but anyways... yeah ive gotten personal messages telling me im wrong about a gem being a stone... which... i never fucking said it wa a stone.
04:57:12 <Ulzef> just saying but pearls of power require caster level 17
04:58:01 <Mekkis> Not as bad as the Take Ten 'ruling'
04:58:10 <Avatar> what's the take 10 ruling
04:58:22 <Mekkis> "We're not ruling on this"
04:58:30 <Steven1> and i've also gotten one that said limestone is effectively a pearl... and i told him ill trade him straight across.
04:58:38 <Steven1> ulzef theres a faq on that.
04:58:39 <Steven1> http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9n8m
04:59:14 <Steven1> he gives me pearls and ill give him limestone... he didnt respond back.
05:00:31 <Avatar> you think table variation doesn't work?
05:00:42 <Avatar> table variation is the best example of how it does work
05:01:41 <Steven1> and when a problem arises people demand an answer other then table variation.
05:02:41 <Steven1> I think table variation is how to solve problems. Dont like a gm's ruling. dont play with that GM.
05:03:03 <Ulzef> better than the take 10 ruling Jena hit me with in hinojin mekkis
05:03:06 <Steven1> but table variation is the thing i get more complaints about then anything else.
05:03:24 <Ulzef> think it was hinojin anyway
05:03:33 <Avatar> example
05:03:49 <Ulzef> the if you take 10 on perception everywhere you will become fatigued
05:04:00 <Steven1> think its time to make some dinner.
05:04:12 <Steven1> an example of a complaint i've recieved?
05:04:44 <Avatar> yeah
05:05:15 <Steven1> I keep the complaints i recieve confidential outside of mediation
05:05:38 <Mekkis> oh yeah
05:05:39 <Mekkis> that
05:06:04 <Avatar> you don't have to tell us who made the complaint
05:07:48 <Avatar> disable device
05:07:51 <Avatar> acrobatics
05:09:04 <Steven1> lookin for one thats not easily identifiable... fuck i've got a lot of emails.
05:10:28 <Steven1> 852 emails dealing with pathfinder lol
05:16:02 <Steven1> changing skill focus.
05:24:04 <Steven1> yup... pretty boring night.
05:30:59 <Avatar> yeah I bet you can see a mix of chow yun fat and aragorn if the mechanics work just right
05:31:58 <Mekkis> either take the unarmed ranger style or the zen archer monk....
05:35:12 <Mekkis> balls!
06:20:23 <Brunius> so the new beta bar venue is right next to swinny
07:08:32 <Avatar> what is the beta bar
07:29:32 <Avatar> you guys seen this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/legendarygames/legendary-planet-adventure-path
07:34:31 <Mekkis> moin
07:34:40 <Mekkis> Saw Jurassic World...
07:35:16 <Avatar> there actually isn't that many backers but somehow they've gotten to $21k?
07:35:18 <Avatar> does that add up?
07:46:38 <Mekkis> !item blessed book
07:46:41 <diebot> Mekkis, BLESSED BOOK [moderate transmutation] CL:7 none 12500gp, 1lb
07:46:41 <diebot> This well-made tome is always of small size, typically no more than 12 inches tall, 8 inches wide, and 1 inch thick. All such books are durable, waterproof, bound with iron overlaid with silver, and locked. A wizard can fill the 1,000 pages of a blessed book with spells without paying the material cost. This book is never found as randomly
07:46:41 <diebot> generated treasure with spells already inscribed in it. Source: Ultimate Equipment
08:45:10 <Brunius> `op
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09:21:51 <Mekkis> Steven1, wand of delay poison
09:38:46 <Mekkis> Avatar, probably someone very altruistic
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11:39:58 <Steven1> 7 people pledged 400 2 people pledged 500
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12:29:19 <Steven1> Was a decent enough movie.
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16:52:57 <Steven> yo
16:54:12 <Steven> one of the players got sick today... didnt get to play.
17:01:54 <Steven> on the plus side though... red beans and rice
17:25:29 <Avatar> mekkis: who's getting replaced?
17:28:08 <Steven> made a ranger/monk
17:28:47 <Steven> should be decent
17:29:05 <Steven> by level 3 i'll have 7 feats.
17:31:39 <Ulzef> then you could go 2 levels of fighter and have 10 by 5 :O
17:39:43 <Avatar> where is steven
17:39:50 <Avatar> that only adds up to $3100
17:40:27 <Avatar> oh I see what's going on
17:41:04 <Avatar> you can add more to your pledge to get more books, so backers for the $20 pledge might actually be something like $85
17:41:38 <Avatar> I kind of only want to get matt's book
17:47:51 <Avatar`> ranger/monk is a very strange combination of character
17:47:55 Avatar` is now known as Avatar
17:59:51 <Mekkis> it's so predictable
18:11:27 <Avatar> the dinosaurs win, right
18:11:34 <Avatar> I knew it
18:44:38 <Mekkis> I can see it working
18:45:03 <Steven1> !throw 1d6
18:45:04 <diebot> Steven1, 1d6: [1d6=2] 2
18:58:55 <Mekkis> Noone yet. Unfortunately.
19:02:41 <Mekkis> Avatar, Matt Goodall?
19:28:37 <Avatar> yeah I bet you can see a mix of chow yun fat and aragorn if the mechanics work just right
19:29:35 <Mekkis> either take the unarmed ranger style or the zen archer monk....
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19:32:49 <Mekkis> balls!
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