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43:30 <Avatar`> where is ulzef
50:14 <Ulzef> brunius there is a melbourne based one that was at pax as well cant remember there name though
57:07 <Steven1> cant decide if i want to go warpriest7/hellknight or something different
22:03 <Steven1> maybe Brawler/hellknight
35:24 <Ulzef> warpriest/hellknight or warpriest/hellknight sigs
59:23 <Steven1> im liking brawler more then warpriest for this
19:20 <Mekkis> !spell crushing despair
19:21 <diebot> Mekkis, CRUSHING DESPAIR enchantment (compulsion[mind-affecting, emotion]) bard 3, sorcerer/wizard 4, witch 4, bloodrager 4 1 standard action Range: 30 ft.  Comp: V, S, M Duration: 1 min./level Save: Will negates SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
19:21 <diebot> An invisible cone of despair causes great sadness in the subjects. Each affected creature takes a -2 penalty on attack rolls, saving throws, ability checks, skill checks, and weapon damage rolls. Crushing despair counters and dispels good hope.
22:15 <Mekkis> !spell consecrete
22:15 <diebot> Mekkis, CONSECRATE evocation ([good]) cleric/oracle 2, inquisitor 2 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)  Comp: V, S, M (a vial of holy water and 25 gp worth of silver dust), DF Duration: 2 hours/level Save: none SR:noSource: PFRPG Core
22:15 <diebot> This spell blesses an area with positive energy. The DC to resist positive channeled energy within this area gains a +3 sacred bonus. Every undead creature entering a consecrated area suffers minor disruption, suffering a -1 penalty on attack rolls, damage rolls, and saves. Undead cannot be created within or summoned into a consecrated area. If the
22:15 <diebot> consecrated area contains an altar, shrine, or other permanent fixture dedicated to your deity, pantheon, or aligned higher power, the modifiers given above are doubled (+6 sacred bonus to positive channeled energy DCs, -2 penalties for undead in the area). You cannot consecrate an area with a similar fixture of a deity other than your own patron.
22:15 <diebot> Instead, the consecrate spell curses the area, cutting off its connection with the associated deity or power. This secondary function, if used, does not also grant the bonuses and penalties relating to undead, as given above. Consecrate counters and dispels desecrate.
22:53 <Mekkis> !item bladed belt
22:55 <diebot> Mekkis, BLADED BELT [faint transmutation] CL:1 belt 2000gp, 3lb
22:55 <diebot> Rather than being made of one continuous line of material, this belt consists of many bits of tanned leather joined together by thick metal studs. On command, the belt's wearer can transform the belt into a single masterwork slashing and/or piercing melee weapon of her choice. As long as she is holding the weapon, she can also revert it back to
22:55 <diebot> belt form with a command. Furthermore, the belt can be enchanted like a piercing and slashing melee weapon, using the cost of the belt as the cost of the masterwork item. Source: Ultimate Equipment
26:59 <Steven1> Was a decent enough movie.
54:42 <Steven1> alright time to build a throw away character
54:48 <Steven1> !rand m f
54:53 <Steven1> !rng m f
54:53 <diebot> Steven1, m
56:20 <Steven1> !throw 2d6; 2d8; 2d8
56:20 <diebot> Steven1, 2d6: [2d6=5,3] 8; 2d8: [2d8=2,3] 5; 2d8: [2d8=2,1] 3
09:29 <Mekkis> !spell cure disease
09:29 <diebot> Mekkis, REMOVE DISEASE conjuration (healing[]) cleric/oracle 3, druid 3, ranger 3, alchemist 3, witch 3, inquisitor 3, alchemist 3, witch 3, inquisitor 3 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: Fortitude negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: PFRPG Core
09:29 <diebot> Remove disease can cure all diseases from which the subject is suffering. You must make a caster level check (1d20 + caster level) against the DC of each disease affecting the target. Success means that the disease is cured. The spell also kills some hazards and parasites, including green slime and others. Since the spell's duration is
09:29 <diebot> instantaneous, it does not prevent reinfection after a new exposure to the same disease at a later date.
10:01 <Mekkis> !spell delay disease
10:01 <diebot> Mekkis, DELAY DISEASE conjuration (healing[]) alchemist 2, cleric/oracle 2, druid 2, inquisitor 2, paladin 2, ranger 2, witch 1 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S, DF Duration: 1 day Save: Fortitude negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: Advanced Race Guide
10:01 <diebot> The target becomes temporarily immune to disease. Any disease to which it is exposed during the spell's duration does not affect the target until the spell's duration has expired. If the target is currently infected with a disease, you must make a caster level check against the disease's DC to suspend it for the duration of the spell; otherwise,
10:01 <diebot> that disease affects the target normally. Delay disease does not cure any damage a disease may have already done.
18:15 <Steven1> !throw 5d6
18:15 <diebot> Steven1, 5d6: [5d6=4,3,4,5,1] 17
21:12 <Ulzef> Heya people of the land of internerds
21:33 <Steven1> what up
21:50 <Steven1> hey
24:44 <Ulzef> WTF GARG they release a new aditional resources and don't include the monster summoners book GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRR
28:49 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: Sat 27th 10am || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
28:49 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Wed Jun 10 22:01:13 2015
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29:56 <Steven1> sup
31:32 <Ulzef> PAIZO ARE JERKS. the can ban the base summoner and make you go the unleashed one before the PDF of the book is even availible to non-subscribers but they update and dont include monster summoners hand book. 
33:41 <Mekkis> !spell soften earth and stone
33:42 <diebot> Mekkis, SOFTEN EARTH AND STONE transmutation ([earth]) druid 2 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)  Comp: V, S, DF Duration: instantaneous Save: none SR:noSource: PFRPG Core
33:42 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/soften_earth_and_stone.html
37:59 <Avatar> double dare you to make a post saying that
38:33 <Ulzef> i may have said worse to gitch
40:07 <Ulzef> i may have suggested they were to busy inbreeding to do there jobs in less polite words.
41:15 <Steven1> suuuuuuuuup
41:36 <Avatar> I can't do a female character
41:52 <Ulzef> i may have a character that i wanted to start very sortly that is very reliant on that book
42:59 <Tashes> clouds
44:26 <Steven1> its all the same to me.
45:26 <Steven1> time to find a trait for a ranger that fits in.
46:22 <Steven1> not where im at... clear beautiful night
50:47 <Avatar> just can't roleplay a girl very well
51:04 <Steven1> I have some tissues here.
51:19 <Avatar> had to do it with my witch and it was tough as nails
52:45 <Ulzef> they did not put Cohorts in there ether and thats a month old i at least expected them to say everything was banne from it with maybe a couple of exceptions. felt like they did a shoody job with it. almost like hey we have been busy with paizo con and havn't updated this since apiril lets put something out
55:23 <Ulzef> i wouldn't take you tissues Steven1 you might need them next time you need to GM non-core games 
55:47 <Steven1> They are probably still reviewing it.
55:56 <Steven1> Its paizocon/gencon season.
56:12 <Steven1> very little gets done in terms of sactioning new content during this time of the year
56:36 <Ulzef> yeah i know and i get shitty about it each year
56:38 <Steven1> Its a huge pain in the ass.
57:34 <Steven1> I liked how they made paizocon happen on memorial weekend... a lot less crunch then last year.
58:12 <Avatar> what up
58:45 <Ulzef> eh as someone who does not get to go i sorta wish it was still in July I had planned on getting there one day and would have liked to see a 4th of july while visiting
02:14 <Avatar> do you mean the one that's always been there
06:02 <Avatar> nobody knows
09:05 <Steven1> eatin pot pie
09:47 <Steven1> imagine a bunch of idiots getting drunk and playing with stuff that explodes.
09:57 <Steven1> and you have it.
11:14 <Ulzef> yeah i like fireworks though and i hear you guys do it well on 4th of july
17:25 <Mekkis> an attack action?
17:33 <Mekkis> It's a standard action used to make an attack.
21:47 <Mekkis> !spell Ancestoral Regression
21:50 <diebot> Mekkis, ANCESTRAL REGRESSION transmutation (polymorph[]) alchemist 2, antipaladin 3, cleric/oracle 2, sorcerer/wizard 3, witch 2 1 standard action Range: touch willing drow touched Comp: V, S Duration: 24 hours (D) Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: Advanced Race Guide
21:50 <diebot> The target drow transforms into a surface elf. The drow loses her darkvision and light-blindness racial traits and gains the low-light vision racial trait in their place. The alignment and personality of the drow are not affected by the transformation, but the spell conceals her alignment as an undetectable alignment spell. The spell grants the
21:50 <diebot> target a +10 bonus on Disguise checks to pass as an elf, though she appears to be an elven analog of herself and can be recognized as such by other drow who know her.
23:15 <Steven1> avatar... name two skills.
23:17 <Mekkis> !item boots of the mire
23:18 <diebot> Mekkis, BOOTS OF THE MIRE [faint abjuration and transmutation] CL:5 feet 3500gp, 1lb
23:18 <diebot> These soft leather boots confer several powers upon the wearer. First, he is granted the power to walk on water in swampy environments, provided the water is no deeper than 5 feet-this effectively lets him move through swampy terrain and mud at no cost to his speed. He leaves no tracks or other signs of his passage as long as he's in swampy
23:18 <diebot> terrain, and never becomes uncomfortable or wet from rain, fog, or other forms of non-freezing precipitation. Finally, the boots grant him a +2 resistance bonus on all Fortitude saves made against poison and disease. Source: Ultimate Equipment
23:34 <Steven1> they tend to set off a lot of fireworks.
23:35 <Steven1> that a ranger/bard would reasonably have.
23:42 <Steven1> I don't enjoy it as much as i did when i was a kid.
24:04 <Steven1> after my lungs got wrecked it pretty much became one of the worst days of the year for me.
24:21 <Steven1> Also.... this thread is fuckin stupid.
24:35 <Steven1> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2scj5?Do-Pearls-of-Power-count-as-gems-for-the
24:52 <Steven1> I've recieved private messages stating i dont know what im talking about.
25:03 * Steven1 facepalm
25:09 <Ulzef> yeah
25:37 <Avatar> it's like vermin
25:39 <Avatar> that isn't news
25:42 <Avatar> you never know until you try
26:35 <Ulzef> how did you slot zero go btw?
26:48 <Avatar> two from melbourne signed up, shaun and ashley
26:51 <Mekkis> Avatar, pretty sure that trying is a good way toget you killed
27:06 <Mekkis> you should know that
27:06 <Avatar> michael evans apparently had to work and michael g didn't reply and later said oops had to work
27:14 <Avatar> ashley's character is too powerful
27:24 <Mekkis> you deigned to play on his table?
27:31 <Avatar> and the two paladins next to his devilman were also too tough
27:37 <Avatar> I ran a game
27:43 <Avatar> I don't really mind playing with him
27:43 <Ulzef> yeah i was not game to sign up to a game with ashley on it in my non con time
27:57 <Avatar> mekkis sometimes I reckon you don't like seeing that we have been having a conversation so you use diebot to bring up spells or items or feats to move the conversation further up
28:09 <Avatar> running for him is OK but I tend to softball as it is without bringing optimised characters to the table
28:21 <Avatar> whatever suits them though I guess
28:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, I'm surprised you think that I'm so naïve...
29:32 <Mekkis> Steven1, have you heard of any VCs getting replaced?
29:41 <Mekkis> one of my local players is asking
30:05 <Steven1> yes
30:29 <Mekkis> what was the process?
31:06 <Steven1> usually removal of vo status followed by a promotion of someone else.
31:08 <Mekkis> it's not an attack made as part of a full-round attack
31:36 <Mekkis> I mean, was it players complaining higher up?
31:39 <Mekkis> or...?
32:06 <Avatar> what is the faction mission they are talking about there
32:17 <Avatar> like what does it say
32:35 <Steven1> brocks policy is to Praise in public, punish in private
32:37 <Avatar> I hate it when they don't quote the rule they're talking about
32:53 <Steven1> so he doesnt make details of why people were removed public
33:28 <Mekkis> which really does make sense. But the question that he's asking is "how would he be removed"?
33:51 <Avatar> right
33:57 <Mekkis> (but it is good to know that there is a precedent)
35:23 <Steven1> scarab sages, you need to recover a gemstone worth 400+100g/level
35:35 <Steven1> !throw 1d35
35:36 <diebot> Steven1, 1d35: [1d35=30] 30
35:38 <Steven1> sorry not gemstone, simply a gem.
36:06 <Steven1> !throw 1d35
36:07 <diebot> Steven1, 1d35: [1d35=12] 12
36:20 <Steven1> exact text being "Recover a gem worth at least 400 gp plus 100 gp per level you possess during an adventure."
37:23 <Steven1> I havent been removed so i dont know the exact process
37:51 <Mekkis> !spell vision
37:52 <diebot> Mekkis, VISION divination ([]) sorcerer/wizard 7, witch 7, shaman 7 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S, M (incense worth 250 gp), F (four pieces of ivory worth 50 gp each) Duration: see text Save:  SR:Source: PFRPG Core
37:52 <diebot> This spell functions like legend lore, except that it works more quickly and produces some strain on you. You pose a question about some person, place, or object, then cast the spell. If the person or object is at hand or if you are in the place in question, you receive a vision about it by succeeding on a caster level check (1d20 + 1 per caster
37:52 <diebot> level; maximum +25) against DC 20. If only detailed information on the person, place, or object is known, the DC is 25, and the information gained is incomplete. If only rumors are known, the DC is 30, and the information gained is vague. After this spell is complete, you are fatigued.
39:30 <Avatar> not sure what else could be meant by that
39:41 <Avatar> I'm sure pearl of power wasn't intended, but what other gems are there
39:51 <Avatar> to the point where you could determine price
42:22 <Ulzef> when do you suspect they will update aditional resources i really want stuff from monster summoners hand book
44:09 <Steven1> well time to read the forums and become depressed at the collective stupidity of our chosen hobby
44:20 <Avatar> jesus man it's not that bad
44:41 <Steven1> elemental gems
44:46 <Steven1> gem of brightness
44:48 <Steven1> its pretty bad.
44:54 <Steven1> demonsensing gem
44:58 <Steven1> Also stayin at my dads house to take care of his dogs.
45:09 <Steven1> he is off on a motor cycle vacation.
45:29 <Ulzef> i hate the "Table variation rule". one of these days someone is gonna get perma banned for "cheating" due to table variation 
45:36 <Steven1> Diamond of Demon Sensing
45:48 <Steven1> i like this house a lot more when im not coughing constantly.
46:11 <Steven1> has way more food then my place.
46:11 <Steven1> I love the table variation rule.  It allows me to be flexible as a GM
46:35 <Ulzef> but as a side note it does not say a "non-magical gem" and thats all i am gonna say
46:50 <Avatar> I don't know what any of those gems are. are they other wondrous items
46:57 <Steven1> ya know... avatar you were right... it doesnt look that bad today on the forum.
46:59 <Steven1> I agree It doesn't say a non-magical gem.
47:08 <Steven1> Yes they are all wonderous Items.
47:31 <Avatar> I am talking about non-wondrous items
48:02 <Steven1> Elemental Gems do not state what kind of gem they are made out of so i disqualify them because i'm unable to assign a value to the gem.
48:27 <Avatar> it's only once in a blue moon when it is depressing
48:44 <Avatar> like when mike brock makes a ruling that character sheets and chronicles can't be stored on electronic devices
48:44 <Avatar> just rule table variance on them
48:54 <Steven1> exactly.
48:54 <Avatar> hell, roll the dice !
49:10 <Steven1> sounds reasonable as well.
49:41 <Avatar> it seems like it's the kind of answer john could jump on
49:49 <Avatar> has it been waiting a week
50:12 <Avatar> I haven't been on the forums hardly at all recently because too busy with work
50:21 <Steven1> 5-6 days
50:59 <Avatar> that sounds like they made a mistake
51:12 <Steven1> i think its one of those things where brock doesnt want to comment because then people will be upset with the ruling he will force down the neck of half of the people.
51:36 <Avatar> how can they
51:48 <Avatar> either wondrous items are okay or they're not
52:04 <Avatar> the intent of that is a bit dumb to complain about
52:06 <Steven1> yeah it sucks when people bother him to make a ruling that doesnt need to be made.
53:09 <Steven1> become some of us feel that the magic is making the item worth that much not the gemstone.
53:42 <Avatar> they should be making grey area rulings
53:48 <Avatar> if they feel forced to make one 
53:55 <Avatar> so then we have some idea rather than no idea
54:13 <Avatar> otherwise that encourages behaviours of "do what you want while you can get away with it"
54:16 <Steven1> like a first level pearl of power means you can mark that faction goal off your character sheet up to 6th level.  making it much less of a challenge.
54:25 <Avatar> if the intent was that the gemstone is meant to be a story based thing rather than a random wondrous item you can buy for two dorra then that's the be all end all of it
54:54 <Steven1> could it be intended to be that easy? sure
55:26 <Avatar> but who's going to say boo hoo you guys are dicks that a pearl of power doesn't work for that mission
55:34 <Steven1> but i personally dont think the scarab sages care about a pearl so common a wizard could make one of them in a day.
55:34 <Avatar> fuckin' nobody!
55:39 <Avatar> yeah exactly
56:42 <Steven1> but anyways... yeah ive gotten personal messages telling me im wrong about a gem being a stone... which... i never fucking said it wa a stone.
57:12 <Ulzef> just saying but pearls of power require caster level 17
57:35 <Ulzef> really like this new cleric archtype
58:01 <Mekkis> Not as bad as the Take Ten 'ruling'
58:10 <Avatar> what's the take 10 ruling
58:22 <Mekkis> "We're not ruling on this"
58:30 <Steven1> and i've also gotten one that said limestone is effectively a pearl... and i told him ill trade him straight across.
58:38 <Steven1> ulzef theres a faq on that.
58:39 <Steven1> http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9n8m
59:14 <Steven1> he gives me pearls and ill give him limestone... he didnt respond back.
59:29 <Steven1> grey area rulings dont work to fix things.
59:37 <Avatar> because they never make them.
59:46 <Steven1> because they dont work.
59:54 <Avatar> do you have a specific case for that
00:19 <Steven1> table variation
00:31 <Avatar> you think table variation doesn't work?
00:42 <Avatar> table variation is the best example of how it does work
01:41 <Steven1> and when a problem arises people demand an answer other then table variation.
02:41 <Steven1> I think table variation is how to solve problems.  Dont like a gm's ruling. dont play with that GM.
03:03 <Ulzef> better than the take 10 ruling Jena hit me with in hinojin mekkis
03:06 <Steven1> but table variation is the thing i get more complaints about then anything else.
03:24 <Ulzef> think it was hinojin anyway
03:33 <Avatar> example
03:49 <Ulzef> the if you take 10 on perception everywhere you will become fatigued
04:00 <Steven1> think its time to make some dinner.
04:12 <Steven1> an example of a complaint i've recieved?
04:44 <Avatar> yeah
05:15 <Steven1> I keep the complaints i recieve confidential outside of mediation
05:38 <Mekkis> oh yeah
05:39 <Mekkis> that
06:04 <Avatar> you don't have to tell us who made the complaint
07:48 <Avatar> disable device
07:51 <Avatar> acrobatics
09:04 <Steven1> lookin for one thats not easily identifiable... fuck i've got a lot of emails.
10:28 <Steven1> 852 emails dealing with pathfinder lol
15:09 <Mekkis> Ulzef, they've said that there's going to be a longer turnover
16:02 <Steven1> changing skill focus.
22:33 <Mekkis> Good to know that there's another way to get a flying mount.
22:38 <Mekkis> at first level
23:49 <Mekkis> (although none of Cohorts and Companions is PFS legal yet)
24:04 <Steven1> yup... pretty boring night.
03:56 <Mekkis> !spell liveoak
03:59 <diebot> Mekkis, LIVEOAK transmutation ([]) druid 6, shaman 7 10 minutes Range: touch tree touched Comp: V, S Duration: 1 day/level Save: none SR:noSource: PFRPG Core
04:00 <diebot> This spell turns an oak tree into a protector or guardian. The spell can only be cast on a single tree at a time; while liveoak is in effect, you can't cast it again on another tree. Liveoak must be cast on a healthy, Huge oak. A triggering phrase of up to one word per caster level is placed on the targeted oak. The liveoak spell triggers the tree
04:00 <diebot> into animating as a treant. If liveoak is dispelled, the tree takes root immediately wherever it happens to be. If released by you, the tree tries to return to its original location before taking root.
07:41 <Tashes> It must have been in my blind spot
30:00 <Brunius> Have you fellas seen heroforge?
30:00 <Brunius> https://www.heroforge.com/
47:25 <Mekkis> wow! I found someone who had the screws for my phone!!!
47:35 <Mekkis> #winning
08:59 <Mekkis> Brunius, I've heard of it. What is it?
29:32 <Avatar> you guys seen this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/legendarygames/legendary-planet-adventure-path
34:31 <Mekkis> moin
34:40 <Mekkis> Saw Jurassic World...
35:16 <Avatar> there actually isn't that many backers but somehow they've gotten to $21k?
35:18 <Avatar> does that add up?
46:38 <Mekkis> !item blessed book
46:41 <diebot> Mekkis, BLESSED BOOK [moderate transmutation] CL:7 none 12500gp, 1lb
46:41 <diebot> This well-made tome is always of small size, typically no more than 12 inches tall, 8 inches wide, and 1 inch thick. All such books are durable, waterproof, bound with iron overlaid with silver, and locked. A wizard can fill the 1,000 pages of a blessed book with spells without paying the material cost. This book is never found as randomly
46:41 <diebot> generated treasure with spells already inscribed in it. Source: Ultimate Equipment
55:35 <Mekkis> Avatar, the 27th is a Saturday.
57:31 <Mekkis> it's so predictable
01:26 <Brunius> silly avatar
03:15 <Avatar> you didn't notice it
03:29 <Avatar> one could say it was actually your fault
05:39 <Brunius> One could
05:41 <Brunius> `op
11:24 <Brunius> It's a web-based model creator and integrated 3D printing service
16:56 <Mekkis> I did notice it
17:09 <Mekkis> Also, you forgot to give me ops when I ran it last
17:10 <Mekkis> :s
28:34 <Avatar> I meant it was actually brunius' fault
28:53 <Brunius> avatar loves passing the blame
52:21 <Mekkis> Brunius, you should have opped me !
52:30 <Brunius> tbh I forgot I had ops
53:07 <Mekkis> just give me ops and I'll overlook it
55:01 <Mekkis> site doesn't work without JS
29:19 <Steven1> Was a decent enough movie.
18:07 <steven> sup
25:29 <Avatar> mekkis: who's getting replaced?
59:51 <Mekkis> it's so predictable
11:27 <Avatar> the dinosaurs win, right
11:34 <Avatar> I knew it
20:10 <Mekkis> I like how they've defined Attack Action in Melee Tactics Toolbox. Hopefully that will put the Vital Strikers to bed
23:23 <Avatar> where's this
32:14 <steven> its in the melee tactics toolbox
40:25 <***> Buffer Playback...
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42:08 <Avatar> what is that
42:14 <Avatar> no, where is that
42:20 <Steven1> elemental gems
42:26 <Steven1> gem of brightness
42:34 <Steven1> demonsensing gem
43:08 <Ulzef> i hate the "Table variation rule". one of these days someone is gonna get perma banned for "cheating" due to table variation 
43:16 <Steven1> Diamond of Demon Sensing
43:50 <Steven1> I love the table variation rule.  It allows me to be flexible as a GM
44:14 <Ulzef> but as a side note it does not say a "non-magical gem" and thats all i am gonna say
44:29 <Avatar> I don't know what any of those gems are. are they other wondrous items
44:38 <Steven1> I agree It doesn't say a non-magical gem.
44:47 <Steven1> Yes they are all wonderous Items.
45:10 <Avatar> I am talking about non-wondrous items
45:41 <Steven1> Elemental Gems do not state what kind of gem they are made out of so i disqualify them because i'm unable to assign a value to the gem.
46:24 <Avatar> just rule table variance on them
46:33 <Steven1> exactly.
46:34 <Avatar> hell, roll the dice !
46:49 <Steven1> sounds reasonable as well.
47:21 <Avatar> it seems like it's the kind of answer john could jump on
47:28 <Avatar> has it been waiting a week
47:51 <Avatar> I haven't been on the forums hardly at all recently because too busy with work
48:01 <Steven1> 5-6 days
48:39 <Avatar> that sounds like they made a mistake
48:51 <Steven1> i think its one of those things where brock doesnt want to comment because then people will be upset with the ruling he will force down the neck of half of the people.
49:15 <Avatar> how can they
49:27 <Avatar> either wondrous items are okay or they're not
49:43 <Avatar> the intent of that is a bit dumb to complain about
50:48 <Steven1> become some of us feel that the magic is making the item worth that much not the gemstone.
51:56 <Steven1> like a first level pearl of power means you can mark that faction goal off your character sheet up to 6th level.  making it much less of a challenge.
52:04 <Avatar> if the intent was that the gemstone is meant to be a story based thing rather than a random wondrous item you can buy for two dorra then that's the be all end all of it
52:34 <Steven1> could it be intended to be that easy? sure
53:06 <Avatar> but who's going to say boo hoo you guys are dicks that a pearl of power doesn't work for that mission
53:13 <Steven1> but i personally dont think the scarab sages care about a pearl so common a wizard could make one of them in a day.
53:14 <Avatar> fuckin' nobody!
53:19 <Avatar> yeah exactly
54:21 <Steven1> but anyways... yeah ive gotten personal messages telling me im wrong about a gem being a stone... which... i never fucking said it wa a stone.
54:51 <Ulzef> just saying but pearls of power require caster level 17
55:40 <Mekkis> Not as bad as the Take Ten 'ruling'
55:50 <Avatar> what's the take 10 ruling
56:02 <Mekkis> "We're not ruling on this"
56:10 <Steven1> and i've also gotten one that said limestone is effectively a pearl... and i told him ill trade him straight across.
56:17 <Steven1> ulzef theres a faq on that.
56:19 <Steven1> http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9n8m
56:53 <Steven1> he gives me pearls and ill give him limestone... he didnt respond back.
58:55 <Mekkis> Noone yet. Unfortunately.
00:43 <Ulzef> better than the take 10 ruling Jena hit me with in hinojin mekkis
01:03 <Ulzef> think it was hinojin anyway
01:29 <Ulzef> the if you take 10 on perception everywhere you will become fatigued
01:40 <Steven1> think its time to make some dinner.
03:17 <Mekkis> oh yeah
03:18 <Mekkis> that
10:17 <Steven1> sup
21:43 <Steven1> yup... pretty boring night.
54:27 <Tashes> Ballig i like your shiny new website link to open external irc client 
27:12 <Avatar> you guys seen this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/legendarygames/legendary-planet-adventure-path
32:56 <Avatar> there actually isn't that many backers but somehow they've gotten to $21k?
32:58 <Avatar> does that add up?
34:36 <Steven1> yo
38:40 <Avatar> Steven1
38:46 <Steven1> sup mang
40:39 <Steven1> ...
40:46 <Steven1> waitin
41:29 <Avatar> bein cold
41:54 <Steven1> nah i feel fantastic
44:39 <Steven1> so whatcha up to?
18:48 <Avatar> I was getting some milk so I could have breakfast
18:57 <Avatar> but now I am back and about to make some breakfast
21:47 <Steven1> i made lasagna
24:07 <Steven1> its baking
35:12 <Mekkis> Avatar, probably someone very altruistic
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