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07:28 <Avatar> are weapon cords mostly useless now
07:35 <Mekkis> no.
07:42 <Avatar> if you can't change to another weapon without untying the weapon cord from the dropped weapon, what good is it?
07:50 <Mekkis> you never could
07:52 <Avatar> still a move action to pick a weapon up
09:08 <Mekkis> defence against disarm
09:18 <Avatar> yeah that's it 
09:26 <Avatar> but even when disarmed, it's usually dropped at your feet right
09:51 <Avatar> it's not even clear if it's a move action that doesn't provoke
09:53 <Choupon> i was playing bg2
09:58 <Avatar> with the cord
10:02 <Mekkis> unless the disarmer has a free hand
10:02 <Choupon> and oh my god 3rd edition is so much simpler
10:20 <Avatar> don't you need a feat for that kind of thing
10:27 <Mekkis> don't think so
11:40 <Mekkis> If
11:40 <Mekkis> you successfully disarm your opponent without using a
11:40 <Mekkis> weapon, you may automatically pick up the item dropped.
11:48 <Mekkis> p199 crb
13:14 <Avatar> check it out
16:06 <spider21b> hows 5e?
16:45 <spider21b> 3rd???
17:40 <spider21b> 3rd was ok i mean orental adventures was epic
34:55 <Choupon> oh cool
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40:56 <mib_kjl7w0> irc.austnet.org
41:03 <Mekkis> yes
41:15 <mib_kjl7w0> I have no idea what im doing
41:52 <Avatar> what are you trying to do
42:45 <mib_kjl7w0> Well the pathfinder society website said to use this mibbit thing to sit in on games and stuff? I have no experience in using whatever this site is
43:07 <Avatar> we organise to run games in here
43:11 <Avatar> have you registered on the site
43:16 <mib_kjl7w0> Yes
43:20 <mib_kjl7w0> No char yet tho
43:29 <Avatar> then you'll start getting invites to games that you can sign up for
44:06 <mib_kjl7w0> Are there any games playing right now that i can like listen in on or something like that? Get a feel of how it all goes down.
44:23 <Avatar> not right now
44:28 <Avatar> http://pathfindersocietyonline.com/gettingstarted/online-player/
45:00 <mib_kjl7w0> Thanks, I'll that out the link
49:46 <Avatar> it's better to play in a game to try it than it is to watch a game 
50:07 <Avatar> watching tends to be dull, the reality of playing isn't dull at all
52:03 <mib_kjl7w0> I know, but i don't want to be a burden by not knowing wtf i should be doing/ how things work
52:52 <Avatar> you learn that as you go
53:43 <Avatar> type /nick (nickname) to change your nickname
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07:44 <Damalon01> yo
21:53 <Avatar> yo
38:44 <Choupon> mwwwwaaahahahahhahahhahahahahahaaaa
40:53 <Choupon> way of the wicked eh? sounds like an evil campaign
32:07 <Steven> suuuuuuuup
32:41 <Steven> i just loaded and unloaded a motercycle by myself.
33:06 <Steven> i am fuckin worn out.
33:34 <Steven> so modded that creature up.
33:41 <Steven> ran it for them, lasted 3 rounds!
33:53 <Steven> by doubling its hit points.
34:29 <Steven> and then one of my players got hit by something, and it was to their dump stat and they threw a fucking bitch like nobodies business.
37:57 <Steven> they got a -2 to attacks and a -2 to Charisma(his dump stat)
38:18 <Steven> and was literally like, somebody just kill my character right now its fucking worthless
38:29 <Steven> all the while till only needing to not roll a nat 1
38:45 <Damalon01> was it a permanent penalty?
38:48 <Steven> like... wtf... didnt even wait for combat to be over.
38:58 <Steven> or for someone to make a heal check or anything.
39:13 <Avatar> how would that make his character worthless
39:28 <Avatar> his dump stat is dumped for a reason, and -2 to attacks isn't going to kill anybody
39:43 <Steven> It was permanent for as long as the condition lasted which was removable via regeneration, greater resto, wish or miracle.
39:52 <Avatar> I would have gotten a glass of water and splashed it in his face to cool him down
40:12 <Avatar> what level is this?
40:22 <Damalon01> ok so curable. well as long as it doesnt happen to often thats not a big deal. 
40:59 <Steven> it was cumulative for everytime it happened, and was fired vs touch at a +2 to the roll.
41:19 <Avatar> that would have stung
41:30 <Steven> so pretty easily to miss vs 14th level characters
42:21 <Damalon01> so the pcs are level 14? do they have a cleric?
54:16 <Steven> yeah
54:50 <Steven> one that when he channels gives +3 Channel Bonus to AC, +3 to charge attacks and Freedom of Movement for 3 Rouns.
54:52 <Steven> rounds.
56:57 <Steven> I've been pretty fucking unsatisfied with the campaign so far because they are cake walking through it and whenever something doesnt go their way 100% all i get is complaints about how its not fair.
59:32 <Steven> everyone has +25-35 to hit and do 120 damage a round average vs ACs in the mid to high 20s
00:12 <Steven> with Hps of around 150-175.
01:11 <Steven> so.... yeah, today i gave the enemies a surprise round and i received complaints... because heaven forbid they take any damage in a combat.
02:10 <Steven> oh and the only one i beat in initiative regularly is the arcanist because she only has a +7 initiative.
02:37 <Steven> I kinda wanna just kill em off and make them reroll characters with 10 point buys.
03:42 <Steven> at the end of today's session they were like lets play tomorrow, and i was like no, i'm not GMing tomorrow I get a fuckin break from this shit.
05:36 <Steven> packed my stuff up and left without talkin to them further
06:20 <Steven> i'm kinda hoping they get the message that i'm pissed at em, but if not, i'm just gonna start metagaming hard and killing people for no reason other then i am annoyed.
21:41 <Damalon01> man it sounds like youre right to be annoyed. Could you possibly just talk to em about how unsatisfied you are? I know that can be hard
23:38 <Damalon01> i was just gonn add that if they have a 14th level cleric they could easily cure the debuff you were talking about. Regenerate is on his list if im not mistaken. All hed have to do is prepare and cast it.
24:29 <Damalon01> Regenerate doesnt cost any expensive material components or anything
24:41 <Damalon01> not even a speed hump to their resources
27:01 <Avatar> going to be harder to talk to them if you put a surprise round on them when they shouldn't have had one
27:40 <Steven> yes... how horrible of me to make the enemies get to do something in a combat... seriously
27:56 <Steven> there were 3 combats today where the enemies didnt get to act before they died.
28:36 <Steven> they were like surrender! and the party was like get tossed /roll initative enemies dead before they could act.
29:34 <Avatar> The Talk needs to come before that kind of thing though
29:59 <Avatar> otherwise you get roundabout situations you can't resolve and you stay pissed off and metagame harder npcing that they don't appreciate
30:51 <Steven> i think most of it is i told them not to make OP characters and now we are at level 14
31:18 <Steven> and one person only rolls to see if he crit or rolled a nat 1
43:58 <Damalon01> Yah i sympathize. But as Avatar is trying to say, just manipulating the rules to increase the challenge might just create more aggravation.
44:32 <Steven> I think im just frustrated by whats happening in game and whats going on outside of game.
45:18 <Steven> I had to drive 2hours tonight to pick up my father, load a motor cycle by myself and then drive 2 hours back down and unload it because he stayed too long at the casino gambling and it got too cold to ride it back home.
45:48 <Steven> so im pretty much just frustrated at everything... oh... and when i finally got home... dog threw up on my bed.
46:00 <Steven> so yeah... stellar fucking day.
46:14 <Damalon01> yup
46:33 <Steven> and we've done 3 sessions in the last week.
46:45 <Damalon01> thats a lot of role playing
46:47 <Steven> so there has been no cool down period where i dont have to give a shit.
56:13 <Damalon01> alrighty im gonna wander off mirc for the night. laters.
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22:06 <MP85> Hello anyone about?
23:17 <MP85> I found this Site link from Pathfinder Online: PFRPG.com.. is it still active?
32:26 <Avatar> yep
32:45 <Avatar> register yourself on the site
32:54 <Avatar> you'll start getting invites to games
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54:38 <Avatar> OK
00:59 <Mekkis> ummm
01:06 <Mekkis> it's not pfrpg.com
01:12 <Mekkis> it's got a .au
02:45 <Avatar> I feel like I need a guide to work out what to buy for my paladin
02:55 <Avatar> I have a litlte over 4000gp now and still using base equipment
03:10 <Avatar> I've got a wishlist of stuff to buy but no idea what to get first
03:13 <Mekkis> You mounted?
03:22 <Avatar> no I don't want a mount
03:38 <Mekkis> what's your strength?
03:45 <Avatar> 14
03:53 <Mekkis> wow
03:59 <Mekkis> archer paladin?
04:13 <Avatar> 14 12 16 12 7 18
04:23 <Mekkis> wow...
04:29 <Mekkis> that's... disjointed
04:32 <Goya> Darn aussies. ;) 
05:46 <Avatar> m/w composite longbow, m/w full plate, haversack, +1 greatsword, headband of str +2
05:52 <Avatar> are the main options
06:00 <Mekkis> where did you find the headband?!
06:12 <Avatar> belt :P
06:37 <Mekkis> sorry, still a little shocked at the 14 str... I'm assuming you have power attack?
06:48 <Avatar> ofc
07:01 <Mekkis> you're at least an awesome race, like gnome?
07:10 <Mekkis> (those stats make sense for a gnome)
07:25 <Avatar> the low str is made up for by the high cha
07:27 <Mekkis> (with racial +con +cha -str)
07:40 <Mekkis> hey... that .au is expensive you know
07:44 <Avatar> When an oathbound paladin reach 4th level, she can spend two uses of her lay on hands ability to gain an extra use of smite evil that day.
07:55 <Avatar> human
08:02 <Avatar> I will never play a gnome
08:38 <Mekkis> and 16 con...
08:54 <Avatar> yes I have become a con fan
08:59 <Mekkis> well... I would get the full plate and enhance the greatsword
09:00 <Avatar> esp front-lining
10:10 <Mekkis> and try to find some way or another to increase your to-hit.
10:54 <Avatar> what does a masterwork transformation cost
11:02 <Avatar> my lucerne hammer is just a regular lucerne hammer
12:35 <Goya> Just register a .com then. ;) 
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14:27 <Mekkis> patriotism ain't cheap
14:51 <Mekkis> costs about $AU10 a year :S
15:53 <Goya> That's about the same as a .com
16:31 <Avatar> I am tempted to just get half-plate rather than full plate
16:37 <Avatar> 900gp difference is significant
16:56 <Goya> I dunno about the cost in AU - though I assume roughly the same. 
21:46 <Mekkis> +1 ac difference is a lot more significant.
22:06 <Mekkis> just like +1 to-hit and damage is a lot more significant than +1hp/level.
23:25 <Avatar> I might hold off the armour upgrade for now then
24:11 <Mekkis> 4000gp should be able to get the armour and the +1 of a weapon, and a second masterwork weapon.
25:10 <Avatar> I think encumberance is always going to be a problem I can't help
25:50 <Mekkis> that's another reason why your str and con are the wrong way around/
26:01 <Avatar> unless I pick up muleback cords
26:09 <Avatar> a 16 con would not help
26:20 <Mekkis> no. at 16 str would
26:23 <Avatar> er, str
26:24 <Mekkis> !capacity 14
26:26 <diebot> Mekkis, 58 if medium, 43.5 if small.
26:27 <Mekkis> !capacity 16
26:27 <diebot> Mekkis, 76 if medium, 57.0 if small.
26:37 <Avatar> that still isn't enough
26:42 <Mekkis> 152lb isn't enough?
26:51 <Avatar> 75lb
26:57 <Avatar> what's 152
27:11 <Mekkis> if you're wearing heavy armour, a medium load is insignificant
27:22 <Avatar> well I'm on a medium load now anyway
27:38 <Avatar> isn't there a -3 ACP
27:54 <Mekkis> it doesn't stack with the -6 from the full plate
28:02 <Avatar> oh
38:13 <Mekkis> no.
38:23 <Mekkis> That's the difference between getting a .com and a .com.au
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15:11 <Avatar> are weapon cords mostly useless now
15:19 <Mekkis> no.
15:25 <Avatar> if you can't change to another weapon without untying the weapon cord from the dropped weapon, what good is it?
15:33 <Mekkis> you never could
15:35 <Avatar> still a move action to pick a weapon up
16:51 <Mekkis> defence against disarm
17:01 <Avatar> yeah that's it 
17:09 <Avatar> but even when disarmed, it's usually dropped at your feet right
17:34 <Avatar> it's not even clear if it's a move action that doesn't provoke
17:41 <Avatar> with the cord
17:45 <Mekkis> unless the disarmer has a free hand
18:03 <Avatar> don't you need a feat for that kind of thing
18:10 <Mekkis> don't think so
19:23 <Mekkis> If
19:23 <Mekkis> you successfully disarm your opponent without using a
19:23 <Mekkis> weapon, you may automatically pick up the item dropped.
19:31 <Mekkis> p199 crb
20:57 <Avatar> check it out
42:38 <Choupon> oh cool
48:39 <mib_kjl7w0> irc.austnet.org
48:46 <Mekkis> yes
48:58 <mib_kjl7w0> I have no idea what im doing
49:35 <Avatar> what are you trying to do
50:28 <mib_kjl7w0> Well the pathfinder society website said to use this mibbit thing to sit in on games and stuff? I have no experience in using whatever this site is
50:50 <Avatar> we organise to run games in here
50:54 <Avatar> have you registered on the site
50:59 <mib_kjl7w0> Yes
51:03 <mib_kjl7w0> No char yet tho
51:12 <Avatar> then you'll start getting invites to games that you can sign up for
51:50 <mib_kjl7w0> Are there any games playing right now that i can like listen in on or something like that? Get a feel of how it all goes down.
52:06 <Avatar> not right now
52:11 <Avatar> http://pathfindersocietyonline.com/gettingstarted/online-player/
52:43 <mib_kjl7w0> Thanks, I'll that out the link
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55:28 <spider21b> hi
56:44 <Mekkis> hi
56:59 <spider21b> how is everything mekkis?
57:01 <Avatar> don't think you would have enjoyed yesterday's game anyway spider
57:06 <Avatar> not really your style
57:13 <spider21b> why do you say that?
57:28 <Avatar> can't really say without spoilers
57:29 <Avatar> it's better to play in a game to try it than it is to watch a game 
57:34 <Avatar> just don't think you would have enjoyed it
57:42 <spider21b> gotcha
57:50 <Avatar> watching tends to be dull, the reality of playing isn't dull at all
57:57 <spider21b> how was the game thou avatar, any ptks?
58:10 <Avatar> played out pretty well
58:19 <Avatar> I think with 5 people the game would have suffered 
58:25 <Avatar> had that perfect level of difficulty
58:29 <spider21b> nods
59:46 <mib_kjl7w0> I know, but i don't want to be a burden by not knowing wtf i should be doing/ how things work
00:35 <Avatar> you learn that as you go
01:26 <Avatar> type /nick (nickname) to change your nickname
07:25 <Avatar> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2457728/free-game-alert-eas-giving-away-the-sims-2-after-ending-support-for-the-game.html
08:38 <Mekkis> !item bracelet of bargaining
08:41 <diebot> Mekkis, BRACELET OF BARGAINING [moderate divination] CL:7 wrists 14500gp, 0lb
08:42 <diebot> This heavy gold band can be worn openly as a display of wealth or concealed beneath a sleeve. It grants its wearer a +5 competence bonus on Bluff, Diplomacy, and Sense Motive checks. Whenever the wearer shakes hands with another creature In order to seal a deal or a promise, she can immediately sense whether deceit is involved (Will save DC 16
08:42 <diebot> negates), though the wearer cannot determine the exact nature of the deception. Source: Ultimate Equipment
11:57 <spider21b> huh?
34:28 <Avatar> pretty good item
46:27 <Choupon> mwwwwaaahahahahhahahhahahahahahaaaa
48:36 <Choupon> way of the wicked eh? sounds like an evil campaign
29:50 <MP85> Hello anyone about?
31:01 <MP85> I found this Site link from Pathfinder Online: PFRPG.com.. is it still active?
40:10 <Avatar> yep
40:28 <Avatar> register yourself on the site
40:38 <Avatar> you'll start getting invites to games
08:43 <Mekkis> ummm
08:50 <Mekkis> it's not pfrpg.com
08:56 <Mekkis> it's got a .au
12:15 <Goya> Darn aussies. ;) 
15:24 <Mekkis> hey... that .au is expensive you know
20:18 <Goya> Just register a .com then. ;) 
22:11 <Mekkis> patriotism ain't cheap
22:35 <Mekkis> costs about $AU10 a year :S
23:36 <Goya> That's about the same as a .com
24:40 <Goya> I dunno about the cost in AU - though I assume roughly the same. 
45:57 <Mekkis> no.
46:08 <Mekkis> That's the difference between getting a .com and a .com.au
49:34 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: Sat 2nd 10am || SS: TBA || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
49:34 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sat Jul 26 14:18:31 2014
49:34 <***> Buffer Playback...
49:34 <***> Playback Complete.
49:34 <Steven> OH MY GOD HOW!?!
49:49 <Steven> how did she know i was having a bad night and i would love to give her drunk ass a ride back home.
50:37 <Steven> ill see you guys in a bit.  I am going to go pick sam up from some party she is at where she is 'literally fall down drunk because i just fell down'
03:12 <spider21b> hi
04:28 <Mekkis> hi
04:43 <spider21b> how is everything mekkis?
04:45 <Avatar> don't think you would have enjoyed yesterday's game anyway spider
04:50 <Avatar> not really your style
04:57 <spider21b> why do you say that?
05:12 <Avatar> can't really say without spoilers
05:18 <Avatar> just don't think you would have enjoyed it
05:26 <spider21b> gotcha
05:41 <spider21b> how was the game thou avatar, any ptks?
05:53 <Avatar> played out pretty well
06:03 <Avatar> I think with 5 people the game would have suffered 
06:09 <Avatar> had that perfect level of difficulty
06:13 <spider21b> nods
19:26 <Steven> okay that wasnt horrible
42:33 <Mekkis> My Laphroaig was under siege by a tower of VB. It was devastating!
42:57 <Steven> what vb?
43:23 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sat Jul 26 14:10:44 2014
43:27 <Mekkis> Cans of VB!
44:05 <Mekkis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Bitter
46:01 <Mekkis> http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/victoria-bitter/7580/
46:57 <Steven> well so long as it was fun.
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15:09 <Avatar> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2457728/free-game-alert-eas-giving-away-the-sims-2-after-ending-support-for-the-game.html
16:23 <Mekkis> !item bracelet of bargaining
16:25 <diebot> Mekkis, BRACELET OF BARGAINING [moderate divination] CL:7 wrists 14500gp, 0lb
16:26 <diebot> This heavy gold band can be worn openly as a display of wealth or concealed beneath a sleeve. It grants its wearer a +5 competence bonus on Bluff, Diplomacy, and Sense Motive checks. Whenever the wearer shakes hands with another creature In order to seal a deal or a promise, she can immediately sense whether deceit is involved (Will save DC 16
16:26 <diebot> negates), though the wearer cannot determine the exact nature of the deception. Source: Ultimate Equipment
19:41 <spider21b> huh?
42:12 <Avatar> pretty good item
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