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06:45:33 <Mekkis> that's interesting
06:45:50 <Mekkis> Someone used my email address to sign up to warhorn
06:49:20 <Brunius|M-> Was it you
06:57:26 <Avatar> haha
07:01:23 <Mekkis> nope
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07:36:00 <phythor> hi
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07:51:19 <Yiroep> That may be a new record. Less than a minute.
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10:51:52 <Hexamony> I'm working on a progression plan for my character. Abilities, feats, skills.. what else happens?
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11:26:52 <Hexamony> Progression ideas for my Halfling Archaeologist, roughly up to level 4: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aij1-bgxkBOIdFIzYVIyYlZLVVBVancyUUEzLWN2S0E&usp=sharing
11:34:40 <Hexamony> As a Bard, do I need ranks in UMD?
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11:47:26 <Andros414> rawrg'
11:48:23 <Hexamony> Indeed.
11:52:31 <Andros414> managed to find time to get on my laptop at work. still have to do a couple more adjustments to mIRC, but it'll do for now. :)
11:52:58 <Hexamony> What do you do for a living, and what kind of adjustments? I've been using mIRC for.. well, a really long time.
11:53:59 <Andros414> it's nothing special, just have to adjust my settings. my usb didn't have the file I use on my home computer, so I'll get that later tonight.
11:54:11 * Hexamony nods.
11:54:15 <Andros414> I manage a game store (pathfinder, MTG, yugioh, pokemon, etc).
11:54:25 <Hexamony> Ah, fun?
11:55:17 <Hexamony> Now I get how you have discount connections for gaming products. :)
11:55:31 <Andros414> yup. :3
11:56:01 <Hexamony> Don't you get any kind of alerts about upcoming products?
12:00:21 <Andros414> for some things.
12:00:36 * Hexamony nods.
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14:04:09 <Steven> yo sup.
14:12:43 <Andros414> hey steven
14:12:52 <Andros414> just thought of something....
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14:13:01 <s_gmusic|Work> >.>
14:13:35 <Steven> need some ice?
14:13:59 <s_gmusic|Work> nah, I'm good
14:15:06 <Steven> so your idea.
14:17:46 <s_gmusic|Work> my idea was the realization I could change my nick to |Work for this computer.
14:27:40 <Hexamony> Hm, Online Play has VCs and VLs.
14:28:19 <s_gmusic|Work> yup
14:29:07 <Hexamony> I'm assuming Online Play covers Video Chat and PbPs.
14:29:27 <Steven> yup
14:29:29 <s_gmusic|Work> yeah, it's how they play here
14:30:00 <Hexamony> Yeah. I'd like to make more connections with the PbP side of PFS play.
14:30:28 <Steven> hit the forum
14:30:58 <Hexamony> Yeah, already getting into stuff on Myth-Weaver, but I actually meant being able to real-chat about PbP stuff. :)
14:36:30 <s_gmusic|Work> swapping comps.
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15:27:11 <Hexamony> Hmm..
15:31:55 <s_gmusic> and back
15:33:06 <Hexamony> Welcome back.
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16:11:17 <Damalon01> hi all
16:11:37 <Avatar> yo
16:14:13 <Damalon01> imma lookin forward to playing PFS tomorrow morning
16:14:20 <Damalon01> been like a month
16:16:23 <Avatar> my bad
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16:17:36 <Hexamony> Hello.
16:17:48 <Avatar> yo
16:18:20 <Avatar> yeah I had to play among the living and among the gods and we be goblins too and then I took a week's break
16:18:24 <Hexamony> I'm not sure if you saw the link, but I worked up a progression plan for my Archaeologist Bard.
16:18:38 <Hexamony> Had to, eh?
16:18:43 <Avatar> what link
16:18:53 <Avatar> yeah GMs gotta play sometime
16:18:56 <Hexamony> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aij1-bgxkBOIdFIzYVIyYlZLVVBVancyUUEzLWN2S0E&usp=sharing
16:19:28 <Avatar> wow even skills
16:19:54 <Hexamony> Yeah. I wasn't sure what I should keep maxed out, what should get a rank here or there, and such.
16:20:11 <Avatar> I don't like trap spotter
16:20:30 <Hexamony> As a novice player, I am open to suggestions. Why don't you like it?
16:20:31 <Avatar> feels like a waste to me when you can just be diligent and look for traps the normal way
16:20:47 <Hexamony> Ah, what's the normal way? Bug the GM every 10 feet? :)
16:21:01 <Avatar> go half way and use your brain :P
16:21:08 * Hexamony nods.
16:21:10 <Avatar> take a combat feat instead
16:21:18 <Hexamony> Like what?
16:21:52 <Avatar> I dunno, there's a big list there
16:21:53 <Hexamony> Also, am I off doing odd-numbered stats? Everything I see displays an even number selection, but something deep in my brain goes 'Start with odd'.
16:22:00 <Avatar> improved initiative if nothing else
16:22:06 * Hexamony nods.
16:22:16 <Avatar> what do you mean doing odd numbered stats
16:22:30 <Hexamony> Like Dex 15 instead of 14. So at level 4, ding, I now have a 16.
16:22:44 <Avatar> generally you want evens
16:23:00 <Avatar> con and maybe str are the exceptions
16:23:14 <Hexamony> Why though? You'd have to use 2 levels to reach the next bonus mod tier?
16:23:22 <Hexamony> 2 ability boost levels*
16:23:27 <Avatar> you're usually only going on one mod anyway
16:23:34 <Avatar> dex for you I think
16:23:36 <Hexamony> Ah.
16:23:38 * Hexamony nods.
16:23:56 <Avatar> you'll get a better balance array with odds if that's what you want
16:24:09 <Avatar> since you'll be spending less points
16:24:19 <Avatar> but that's usually not what people go for
16:24:34 <Hexamony> Well, this is an old idea that may be a hold-over from AD&D or old 3.0.
16:24:59 <Hexamony> Balance is good for Society games though, isn't it?
16:27:33 <Avatar> arguably not
16:28:02 <Hexamony> I may be confusing balance with the ability to be versatile in different groups.
16:28:08 <Avatar> what are you using str for
16:29:11 <Hexamony> I followed a stat suggestion from a Bard guide for archers. It suggested DEX>CHA>CON=STR>INT>WIS. Was that a typo? I thought it meant Con and Str should be the same.
16:29:53 <Avatar> you should know what your stats are for
16:29:59 <Hexamony> But yeah, once I get Weapon Finesse at 4, I likely wouldn't need Strength for anything. But can't bows get a Str rating?
16:30:13 <Avatar> yeah you can pick up a composite bow
16:30:19 <Avatar> not sure it's worth it for the points you've got in it
16:30:22 <Hexamony> I know Dex is for Bow, Cha is for Magic, Int is for Skills, and Wis is not to make fun of the warhammer carrying dwarf.
16:30:30 <Hexamony> Hm?
16:30:41 <Avatar> you're a halfling, so that's 5 points yeah
16:30:54 <Hexamony> Right.
16:31:04 <Avatar> you're better off dropping it to an 8 and then you have 7 extra points to put anywhere else
16:31:26 <Avatar> er, not 7
16:31:28 <Hexamony> What about the rare times I do find myself in melee?
16:31:30 <Avatar> 5
16:31:37 <Avatar> you'll have weapon finesse
16:32:14 <Avatar> I think your melee damage is always going to suck regardless because you're a bard who's built for ranged
16:32:18 <Hexamony> But not till level 4.
16:32:20 * Hexamony nods.
16:32:36 <Avatar> can you get it earlier than level 4
16:32:59 <Avatar> you'll want Lingering Performance
16:33:10 <Avatar> that'll let your archaeologist's luck last much much longer
16:33:14 <Hexamony> I'm using a Rogue's Talent to get it. If you could argue something better, I could get Weapon Finesse at 3, and save Rapid Shot for 6.
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16:33:25 <Hexamony> Lingering performance? Where's that?
16:33:30 <Avatar> core rulebook
16:33:36 <Avatar> !feat lingering performance
16:33:38 <diebot> Avatar, LINGERING PERFORMANCE []Prereq: Bardic performance class feature. The effects of your bardic performance carry on, even after you have stopped performing.
16:33:39 <diebot> Benefit: The bonuses and penalties from your bardic performance continue for 2 rounds after you cease performing. Any other requirement, such as range or specific conditions, must still be met for the effect to continue. If you begin a new bardic performance during this time, the effects of the previous performance immediately cease. Source:
16:33:39 <diebot> APG
16:33:49 <Avatar> or APG
16:34:19 <Hexamony> But Archaeologist's Luck replaces Bardic Performance, so I technically won't have the pre-req.
16:34:32 <Avatar> archaeologist's luck counts as bardic performance
16:34:38 <Hexamony> Unless there's errata and clarifications I missed.
16:34:39 <Hexamony> Ah.
16:34:40 <Avatar> it's in the description of it
16:38:34 <Hexamony> I could go 8/18/12/13/10/16 or 8/18/12/14/10/15
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16:40:14 <Hexamony> So if I use Luck, I have 7 uses. Does maintaining it cost a use?
16:41:46 <Avatar> it only lasts 1 round unless you use lingering performance
16:41:52 <Avatar> in which case it lasts 3 rounds
16:41:56 <Avatar> so your 7 becomes 21
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16:42:17 <Hexamony> But the text says I can maintain it as a free action.
16:42:42 <Avatar> I think that still spends a use
16:43:05 <Hexamony> Okay, that's what I was asking.
16:43:27 <Hexamony> Hmm.
16:43:54 <Avatar> a number of rounds per day = to 4 + cha
16:44:32 * Hexamony nods.
16:49:49 <Hexamony> So which would you suggest: Int 13/Cha 16 or Int 14/Cha 15?
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17:07:05 <Avatar> can you go int 12
17:07:12 <Avatar> int 13 is utterly useless
17:07:28 <Hexamony> What would I do with 1 point?
17:07:31 <Avatar> unless you've got an int focused class, there's no reason at all to have an odd numbered int
17:07:43 <Avatar> con 13
17:07:46 <Avatar> at a minimum
17:07:55 <Avatar> that could save your life
17:08:13 <Hexamony> What does a Con 13 do differently from a 12?
17:08:21 <Avatar> you die at -13 hp instead of -12
17:08:25 <Hexamony> Ah.
17:08:32 <Avatar> that's not nothing
17:08:35 <Hexamony> Right.
17:08:49 <Avatar> if you're not using your str, lower that too
17:08:52 <Hexamony> What happens if I get an item that gives me +2 Int? Would I get skill points?
17:09:06 <Avatar> you won't get an item that gives you +2 int
17:09:16 <Hexamony> I figured you'd say that. :p
17:09:28 <Hexamony> I guess 8 SP is actually pretty good, isn't it?
17:09:35 <Avatar> if you did, it gives you your level in skill points (for one skill), a language and I think that's it
17:09:43 <Avatar> if you're a wizard it raises the DC of your spells
17:09:44 <Hexamony> I'm still used to 3.5, "Okay, you have 30 skill ranks to use.." @.@
17:10:03 <Avatar> you'll never have to worry about not having enough skills
17:10:10 <Avatar> well you will but not really
17:10:12 * Hexamony nods.
17:10:12 <Avatar> less than other classes
17:10:15 <Hexamony> Right
17:10:24 <Hexamony> And what about keeping certain skills maxed out?
17:10:35 <Avatar> dex
17:10:40 <Avatar> ranged weapon, weapon finesse
17:10:59 <Avatar> I've never had much luck with the charisma for a bard
17:11:08 * Hexamony nods.
17:11:11 <Avatar> I think you need full spell progression to take real advantage of that
17:11:21 <Avatar> I might be wrong
17:11:24 <Hexamony> What's that?
17:11:48 <Avatar> a new spell level every 2 levels
17:11:52 <Avatar> instead of every 3 or 4
17:11:56 <Hexamony> Ah.
17:13:29 <Hexamony> Now I remember why I like a little STR. Encumberance.
17:13:42 <Avatar> a handy haversack will fix that
17:13:45 <Avatar> everyone's got one
17:14:03 <Avatar> not at level 1, but soon
17:14:21 <Avatar> muleback cords in your shoulder slot are half price
17:14:22 <Hexamony> Heh, right.
17:14:30 <Hexamony> Muleback cords?
17:14:32 <Avatar> the haversack will save your life though since it doesn't provoke
17:14:40 <Brunius> sogreat
17:14:42 <Avatar> !item muleback cords
17:14:43 <diebot> Avatar, MULEBACK CORDS [faint transmutation] CL:3 shoulders 1000gp, 0.2lb
17:14:44 <diebot> These thick leather cords wrap around the wearer's biceps and shoulders. When worn, they make the wearer's muscles appear larger than normal. The wearer treats his Strength score as 8 higher than normal when determining his carrying capacity. This bonus does not apply to combat, breaking items, or any other Strength-related rolls, it only
17:14:44 <diebot> contributes to the amount of equipment or material the wearer can carry. Source: Ultimate Equipment
17:15:02 <Hexamony> Ahh.
17:15:13 <Brunius> !help
17:15:13 <Hexamony> That would be two things I need. The book, and the HL data package.
17:15:13 <diebot> Brunius, Commands include !throw, !save, !dist, !chargen, !feat, !spell, !item, !search, !define. Type ??command for more information, eg ??!throw .
17:15:28 <Hexamony> I saw your suggestion on one forum being UE to be the book to get.
17:16:48 <Hexamony> I read someone's Level 1 Chronicle sheet. Something like 500GP or more in loot. Was a motivator to try out Society.
17:18:01 <Hexamony> And UE for HL is another $10, of course.
17:18:30 <Avatar> UE is quite underrated
17:18:54 <Hexamony> For bonus language, which would get more traction in Society, Dwarven, Elven, or Gnome?
17:19:21 <Avatar> i'm told dwarven is best for next season
17:19:38 <Avatar> nobody likes gnomes ok
17:19:43 <Hexamony> Oh, I always like item books. Thankfully, I could probably borrow UE for when I GM, but still need $30 to get HL packages. Invaluable tool, but soo expensive.
17:19:44 <Hexamony> Heh.
17:19:54 <Avatar> mate you don't need the HL packages
17:20:04 <Avatar> how much are you spending on HL
17:20:13 <Hexamony> I already bought HL a couple years ago.
17:20:20 <Avatar> yeah how much for the packages
17:20:47 <Hexamony> $10 each for the Ultmate Trios. I already bought APG.
17:20:50 <Hexamony> A while ago.
17:21:48 <Avatar> $40
17:21:55 <Avatar> do yourself a favour and buy 4 more books
17:22:02 <Avatar> uninstall that garbage and let's learn how to play some pathfinder
17:22:28 <Hexamony> What would I use instead?
17:22:35 <Avatar> the books
17:22:53 <Hexamony> I meant in the way of digital character sheets.
17:23:09 <Hexamony> Which books cost $10 each?
17:23:21 <Avatar> all of them
17:23:29 <Hexamony> Oh, the PDFs?
17:23:54 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/products/btpy8rcd
17:23:55 <Avatar> yeah
17:24:19 <Avatar> digital character sheet: http://www.pfrpg.com.au/charsheets/Character%20Sheet%20Template%20(Pathfinder%20Society).txt
17:24:28 <Avatar> or you have your myth weavers one if that's enough
17:24:39 <Hexamony> Yeah. I like the MW sheets.
17:24:44 <Avatar> 4 more books is nothing to sneeze at
17:24:58 <Avatar> if you are throwing money into the fire, paypal some my way
17:25:18 <Hexamony> Eh. I'm fairly broke right now. I would actually see if my group would help me, or wait till I had money again. I'm merely daydreaming of disposable income uses.
17:25:47 <Avatar> you are broke because HL is eating your wallet I think
17:26:12 <Hexamony> Nah. I spent this money on HL like two or three years ago. I was a student, low-rent, and so had some money to spread around.
17:26:35 <Avatar> how old are you
17:26:44 <Hexamony> And I have a VL in my group, so I really wouldn't need to buy any books as long as I game for him.
17:26:50 <Hexamony> Early 30s. x.x
17:26:55 <Avatar> I'm 31
17:27:12 <Avatar> do you have a mortgage
17:27:25 <Hexamony> Nope. Still doing the low-rent living situation.. with my parents..
17:27:34 <Avatar> yeah HL is eating your spare change and for what
17:27:57 <Hexamony> How is eating my spare change when I haven't spent anything on it in two years?
17:31:01 <Avatar> you are about to spend 30
17:31:07 <Avatar> you have already lost 10 to it
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17:33:10 <Brunius> sup Ballig
17:33:12 * Hexamony nods, "I don't have many other small-cost interests right now, but I would have to drag my laptop around to games if I actually invested more in HL right now."
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17:35:01 <Hexamony> Let's see.. back to Kemp.. Is Abundant Ammontion a good spell? I haven't figured out what I'd replace Charm Perosn with.
17:35:19 <Brunius> !spell Abundant Ammunition
17:35:21 <diebot> Brunius, ABUNDANT AMMUNITION conjuration (summoning[]) bard 1, cleric 1, ranger 1, sorcerer/wizard 1 1 standard action Range: one container touched Comp: V, S, M/DF (a single piece of ammunition) Duration: 1 minute/level Save: none SR:noSource: Ultimate Combat
17:35:21 <diebot> When cast on a container such as a quiver or a pouch that contains nonmagical ammunition or shuriken (including masterwork ammunition or shuriken), at the start of each round this spell replaces any ammunition taken from the container the round before. The ammunition taken from the container the round before vanishes. If, after casting this spell,
17:35:22 <diebot> you cast a spell that enhances projectiles, such as align weapon or greater magic weapon, on the same container, all projectiles this spell conjures are affected by that spell.
17:35:37 <Brunius> You can't make full attacks with it
17:35:42 <Brunius> Well
17:35:44 <Brunius> Not as easily
17:35:55 <Brunius> Pretty sure not at all with a musket
17:35:58 <Brunius> maybe with a pistol
17:36:16 <Hexamony> My character would be using a shortbow.
17:36:24 <Brunius> Probably alright then
17:36:29 <Mekkis> arrows are cheap
17:36:32 <Brunius> If you're a wizard I wouldn't think it's worth it
17:36:32 <Avatar> some people love abundant
17:36:38 <Brunius> Because yeah, arrows are cheap
17:36:41 <Avatar> you can make full attacks
17:36:43 <Mekkis> not worth a spell
17:36:44 <Hexamony> Bard.
17:36:50 <Avatar> that spell lasts mins/lvl
17:36:57 <Hexamony> Okay, so I have to replace both spells, and stop reading that guide. :p
17:36:59 <Avatar> I think it's only useful for gunslingers?
17:37:04 <Mekkis> consider &gravity bow instead
17:37:12 <Hexamony> Gravity bow?
17:37:33 <Mekkis> !spell gravity bow
17:37:34 <diebot> Mekkis, GRAVITY BOW transmutation ([]) ranger 1, sorcerer/wizard 1 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 minute/level (D) Save: SR:Source: APG
17:37:34 <diebot> Gravity bow significantly increases the weight and density of arrows or bolts fired from your bow or crossbow the instant before they strike their target and then return them to normal a few moments later. Any arrow fired from a bow or crossbow you are carrying when the spell is cast deals damage as if one size larger than it actually is. For
17:37:35 <diebot> instance, an arrow fired from a Medium longbow normally deals 1d8 points of damage, but it would instead deal 2d6 points of damage if fired from a gravity bow (see page 145 of the Core Rulebook for more information). Only you can benefit from this spell. If anyone else uses your bow to make an attack the arrows deal damage as normal for their size.
17:38:05 <Hexamony> Ah, not a Bard spell.
17:38:57 <Avatar> you could carry scrolls of it
17:39:04 <Avatar> get your friendly neighbourhood wizard to cast it
17:39:19 <Hexamony> Can't I use scrolls?
17:39:25 <Avatar> not wizard ones
17:39:29 <Avatar> unless you've got great UMD
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17:40:08 <Hexamony> +7 to start.
17:41:17 <Avatar> you need like 26
17:41:27 <Hexamony> Ah.
17:41:34 <Avatar> on the dice, that is
17:41:35 <Hexamony> What about when using CLW wands?
17:41:40 <Avatar> so you could do it with a roll of 19 !
17:41:51 <Avatar> bards can cast CLW, so no UMD
17:42:25 <Hexamony> Oh, okay.
17:43:35 <Hexamony> So how about Spark and Saving Finale instead?
17:44:18 <Avatar> saving finale is your friend
17:44:33 <Avatar> friends 4 lyfe
17:44:52 <Avatar> I think I saved my party in a deadly encounter just with saving finale
17:44:58 <Avatar> in a tier 5-9
17:45:06 <Hexamony> Ah, wait.. does this work with Archaeologist's Luck?
17:45:10 <Avatar> yes
17:45:19 <Avatar> anything that says bardic performance, uses your archaeologist's luck
17:45:20 <Avatar> every time
17:45:29 <Hexamony> Right, just trying to figure something else..
17:45:33 <Hexamony> something out*
17:46:49 <Hexamony> Ah, okay. A.Luck as a Swift Action, then Saving Finale as an Immediate Action. In case I don't actually have it going when someone flubers.
17:49:46 <Mekkis> why not liberating command
17:49:52 <Mekkis> !spell liberating command
17:49:54 <diebot> Mekkis, LIBERATING COMMAND transmutation ([]) bard 1, cleric 1, druid 1, paladin 1, ranger 1, sorcerer/wizard 1 1 immediate action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature Comp: V Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: Ultimate Combat
17:49:54 <diebot> If the target is bound, grappled, or otherwise restrained, he may make an Escape Artist check to escape as an immediate action. He gains a competence bonus on this check equal to twice your caster level (maximum +20). This spell has no effect if the target could not get free by using the Escape Artist skill (for example, if he were under the
17:49:54 <diebot> effects of a hold person spell or paralyzed by Strength damage).
17:50:01 <Mekkis> it's a lifesaver
17:50:25 <Hexamony> Cause I didn't know about it. :)
17:51:31 <Hexamony> Saving Finale and Liberating Command kind of fit the fluff of my character, too.
17:51:51 <Mekkis> it's in Ultimate Combat now?
17:51:54 <Mekkis> wow
17:52:43 <Hexamony> Should I keep Point-Blank Shot as my Level 1 feat, or change to several other good options?
17:52:53 <Mekkis> yes
17:52:56 <Hexamony> Also need to pick another trait.
17:53:12 <Hexamony> Yes keep, or yes change? :p
17:53:19 <Mekkis> yes
17:53:25 <Hexamony> >.<
17:54:39 <Mekkis> Attuned to the Ancestors
17:54:45 <Mekkis> take that trait
17:55:12 <Hexamony> I was quite interested in this character being of Grand Lodge.
17:55:42 <Mekkis> why?
17:55:50 <Mekkis> it's a boring faction
17:56:15 <Hexamony> It fits thematically mostly.
17:56:49 <Mekkis> what's the theme? a Grand Lodge shrill?
17:57:19 <Hexamony> A curious explorer, eager to discover new things, unearth old secrets, and write about them in his adventure novels.
17:57:37 <Mekkis> most factions would fit that in
17:57:44 <Avatar> grand lodge isn't a much fun faction
17:57:59 <Hexamony> I'm picking up on that vibe. :p
17:58:10 <Mekkis> Unearthing old secrets is very osirion
17:58:10 <Hexamony> I'll research the factions more thoroughly tomorrow.
17:58:14 <Avatar> my grand lodge character worked only because ulzef managed to convince my character to defect
17:58:18 <Avatar> into his faction
17:58:36 <Avatar> IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM
17:58:53 <Mekkis> what? the slip over there?
17:59:26 <Avatar> yea
17:59:33 <Avatar> did you get my message earlier mekis
17:59:38 <Avatar> on whatsapp
17:59:54 <Mekkis> what is whatsapp?
18:00:03 <Avatar> the messenger app
18:00:07 <Avatar> you have it on your phone apparently
18:00:16 <Mekkis> what?
18:00:21 <Mekkis> no I don't
18:00:21 <Avatar> ya
18:00:26 <Hexamony> Thanks for the advice and such. I'm off to bed now.
18:00:36 <Avatar> gg
18:01:21 <Mekkis> I have skype on my phone
18:01:29 <Avatar> and whatsapp
18:02:02 <Mekkis> nope
18:02:18 <Mekkis> is it even available for my phone?
18:04:00 <Avatar> you're listed
18:04:13 <Mekkis> no I'm not
18:04:16 <Avatar> did you put your sim card into someone else's phone
18:04:22 <Avatar> I assure you you are
18:04:24 <Mekkis> no
18:04:32 <Mekkis> delist me
18:04:38 <Avatar> I can't delist you, it's your account
18:04:54 <Avatar> that would be like asking me to deactivate your facebook account
18:05:23 <Mekkis> I have a facebook account?!
18:05:30 <Avatar> the status is Immer bei der Arbeit
18:05:35 <Avatar> is that german
18:05:45 <Mekkis> seems like it
18:05:51 <Avatar> I mean this sounds like you
18:05:59 <Mekkis> you've got the wrong guy
18:06:08 <Avatar> so you got the message, basically
18:06:26 <Mekkis> regardless, my phone does not support it
18:06:33 <Avatar> ok
18:06:52 <Mekkis> and really, why do I need another instant messaging service?
18:07:06 <Avatar> whatsapp is the best out there at the moment
18:07:11 <Mekkis> isn't IRC, email, skype and steam enough?
18:07:22 <Mekkis> plus sms
18:07:44 <Avatar> IRC is for IRC, email is for the old schlonkies who can't figure anything out, skype is for voice and your default PC messenger, steam is for gaming
18:07:50 <Avatar> whatsapp is for your phone/sms
18:08:03 <Avatar> sms if for the young schlonkies who can't figure anything out
18:08:07 <Avatar> sms is*
18:08:08 <Mekkis> skype is integrated on my phone
18:09:00 <Avatar> that's great for your voice and default PC messaging
18:09:55 <Mekkis> http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/general/24068052
18:10:26 <Avatar> yeah so at some point you had it
18:10:37 <Mekkis> or someone else did
18:10:40 <Avatar> have you changed phone numbers
18:10:48 <Mekkis> maybe
18:11:10 <Avatar> y/n
18:11:12 <Mekkis> I have a german number
18:11:23 <Avatar> it's not a german number
18:11:25 <Avatar> +61
18:11:46 <Mekkis> ignore it
18:11:54 <Mekkis> I don't have whatsapp.
18:12:07 <Avatar> Immer bei der Arbeit
18:12:07 <Mekkis> I can't get whatsapp on my phone
18:12:25 <Mekkis> I wouldn't get whatsapp even if I could.
18:13:22 <Mekkis> anyway, doesn't whatsapp only receive messages when your phone's connected to a data network?
18:17:31 <Mekkis> Brunius, tanks?
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18:55:34 <Blumiere> WhastApp does only use network data
18:56:06 <Blumiere> but in a lot of countries in south america and europe the network costs, or roaming costs for sms are so high that it's better to have a messaging app that uses data
18:56:11 <Blumiere> wifi for daaaaays
18:57:05 <Mekkis> Blumiere, sure, but if you don't remain connected to the data network, you don't receive the messages
18:57:43 <Blumiere> yeah
18:57:57 <Blumiere> dunno where you are, but I would struggle to go somewhere I don't get data service
18:58:01 <Blumiere> every country is different
18:58:09 <Mekkis> Blumiere, I can connect to the data network
18:58:24 <Mekkis> but it wastes battery, and I only have a limited amount of data per month
18:58:33 <Mekkis> so I only connect when I need it
18:58:49 <Mekkis> I'm not going to remain connected on the off chance that Avatar's too cheap to SMS me.
18:58:50 <Blumiere> ahh OK
18:59:11 <Blumiere> I just take data for granted, I've never gone over quota and just use it willy nilly
18:59:38 <Mekkis> I treat voice/SMS that way
18:59:50 <Mekkis> but on my plan, I only get 200mb a month
19:00:52 <Blumiere> oh yeah, you'd wanna be careful with that
19:01:01 <Blumiere> I have 3gb
19:01:14 <Mekkis> you probably have Android, right?
19:02:09 <Blumiere> iOS
19:02:28 <Mekkis> which does remain connected as much as possible, in order to tell Apple where you are, who you're with, what your heart rate is, etc?
19:02:35 <Blumiere> went from a Nexus to the iPhone 5S when my work bought it for me
19:02:46 <Blumiere> yeah, I am but part of the machine
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19:37:52 <s_gmusic> I wonder if there's a charge for international texting...
19:38:13 <Blumiere> I reckon there is, but that would change country to country
19:38:16 <Blumiere> and network to network
19:38:27 <Mekkis> yeah. about 30c
19:43:07 <s_gmusic> for us$10 a month, I can have unlimited international texting, otherwise it's us$0.20 per text
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19:57:46 <Ell> anyone use CA?
19:59:58 <Mekkis> yes
20:00:30 <Brunius> y
20:01:06 <Ell> how does it work?
20:05:58 <s_gmusic> CA?
20:16:29 <Mekkis> you connect to the GM
20:16:40 <Mekkis> and the GM displays what the GM intends you to see
20:16:51 <Mekkis> Brunius, is SS tomorrow?
20:17:10 <Brunius> It's Sunday
20:17:14 <Mekkis> oh
20:17:20 <Mekkis> in that case I can stay later
20:17:32 <Brunius> Speaking of SS, though, I need to set up that tunnel again
20:17:34 <Mekkis> tanks, Brunius?
20:17:49 <Brunius> looks like I lost the key in the format+reinstall shenanigans
20:17:58 <Mekkis> ssh nl.ti4200.info -R4000:127.0.0.1:4001
20:20:07 <Brunius> looks like I've forgotten my password
20:20:10 <Brunius> so great at this
20:24:36 <Mekkis> that's probably because I never gave you one
20:25:02 <s_gmusic> heh
20:25:12 <Mekkis> can you give me your RSA public key?
20:25:40 <Mekkis> Just p and q, don't need anything else
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20:36:16 <Mekkis> Brunius?
20:40:02 <Brunius> sec
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22:08:38 <Ell> with CA, it opens on the username, etc. is that to connect with the GM or your own
22:13:24 <Mekkis> your username
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23:11:37 <Avatar> very helpful
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