// #d&d — 2014-03-10
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00:01:35 <Avatar> doesn't make sense to buy a bow over a light crossbow at the early levels
00:02:50 <Damalon01> i thought caster levels only helped with penetration checks, duration and effect while spell focus only adds to save Dc
00:04:36 <Damalon01> in fact a lot of the time i debate if +1 to save dc is worth a feat
00:05:14 <Damalon01> you only get so many feats after all
00:05:21 <Mekkis> Avatar, they generally do stack, but Magical Knack generally doesn't
00:08:39 <Avatar> !item handy haversack
00:08:40 <diebot> Avatar, HANDY HAVERSACK [moderate conjuration] CL:9 none 2000gp, 5lb
00:08:40 <diebot> A backpack of this sort appears to be well made, well used, and quite ordinary. It has two side pouches, each of which appears large enough to hold about a quart of material. In fact, each is like a bag of holding and can actually hold material of as much as 2 cubic feet in volume or 20 pounds in weight. The large central portion of the pack can
00:08:40 <diebot> contain up to 8 cubic feet or 80 pounds of material. Even when so filled, the backpack always weighs only 5 pounds. While such storage is useful enough, the pack has an even greater power. When the wearer reaches into it for a specific item, that item is always on top. Thus, no digging around and fumbling is ever necessary to find what a haversack
00:08:40 <diebot> contains. Retrieving any specific item from a haversack is a move action, but it does not provoke the attacks of opportunity that retrieving a stored item usually does. Source: Ultimate Equipment
00:08:47 <Avatar> bloody hell 2000
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00:11:34 <Avatar> don't think I can carry all this shiz
00:11:51 <Avatar> just the armor and weaps alone
00:12:15 <Avatar> side effect of that dramatic str decrease to pump up the cha
00:14:09 <Avatar> why
00:14:31 <Avatar> why doesn't magical knack stack
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00:14:47 <Avatar> Damalon01: I agree, but spell focus is a pre-req to everything else
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00:16:44 <Damalon01> yup
00:17:20 <Mekkis> because it has a hard limit of your character level
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00:17:49 <Mekkis> Magical knack can't cause your caster level to exceed your HD
00:18:16 <Damalon01> i think the game designers over reacted after the bad old days in 3.0, when spell power added to spell dc
00:18:31 <Avatar> that shouldn't matter though
00:18:39 <Avatar> I'd be capped now but not later
00:18:43 <Mekkis> this is still about your paladin?
00:19:00 <Avatar> no this is about one of my other characters that I have to finish level 1 retraining for
00:19:07 <Avatar> I think I have another one after this
00:19:32 <Avatar> or possibly just a regular retrain, I can't keep track
00:19:39 <Avatar> probably on a medium load no matter what I do I think
00:19:48 <Mekkis> are you going for the 'abuse high CL' stuff?
00:20:00 <Avatar> I guess so
00:20:05 <Avatar> just want a good optimised blaster
00:20:32 <Mekkis> what spells do you have in mind?
00:20:33 <Avatar> it's another almost done one
00:20:44 <Avatar> dunno, evocation focused
00:20:48 <Avatar> magic missile/fireball etc
00:21:03 <Avatar> admixture school
00:21:11 <Mekkis> wizard, not sorcerer?
00:21:38 <Avatar> yeah wizard
00:21:47 <Avatar> I have no interest in classes that get spells a level later than an alternate class
00:22:34 <Damalon01> hehehe
00:22:41 <Mekkis> so varisian tattoo?
00:23:04 <Mekkis> !item dust of illusion
00:23:05 <diebot> Mekkis, DUST OF ILLUSION [moderate illusion] CL:6 none 1200gp, 0lb
00:23:06 <diebot> This unremarkable powder resembles chalk dust or powdered graphite. When stared at, however, the dust changes color and form. A creature covered in dust of illusion is affected as if by a disguise self glamer, with the individual who sprinkles the dust envisioning the illusion desired. An unwilling target is allowed a DC 11 Reflex save to avoid the
00:23:06 <diebot> dust. The glamer lasts for 2 hours. Source: Ultimate Equipment
00:23:25 <Avatar> yeah mage's tattoo
00:23:39 <Mekkis> not called that
00:23:43 <Avatar> magical knack, mage's tattoo, spell specialization
00:23:55 <Avatar> somewhere there's been a rename
00:23:59 <Mekkis> nope
00:24:06 <Avatar> pretty sure
00:24:08 <Mekkis> on d20pfsrd it's listed as that
00:24:12 <Mekkis> nowhere else
00:24:18 <Avatar> yeah it used to be listed there as varisian tattoo
00:24:31 <Avatar> I know because I was going to give it to Cairo
00:25:25 <Mekkis> but the name hasn't changed
00:25:48 <Avatar> potatoes potartoes
00:25:50 <Mekkis> anyway, magical knack won't work
00:27:24 <Avatar> looks like it does yo?
00:27:30 <Avatar> what suggests that it doesn't
00:28:44 <Mekkis> Magical Knack: You were raised, either wholly or in part,
00:28:44 <Mekkis> by a magical creature, either after it found you abandoned
00:28:44 <Mekkis> in the woods or because your parents often left you in the
00:28:44 <Mekkis> care of a magical minion. This constant exposure to magic
00:28:44 <Mekkis> has made its mysteries easy for you to understand, even
00:28:44 <Mekkis> when you turn your mind to other devotions and tasks. Pick
00:28:46 <Mekkis> a class when you gain this trait—your caster level in that
00:28:48 <Mekkis> class gains a +2 trait bonus as long as this bonus doesn’t raise your caster level above your current Hit Dice.
00:29:03 <Mekkis> apg p329
00:29:42 <Avatar> yeah but after level 2 it's all good
00:29:52 <Mekkis> you planning on multiclassing?
00:29:54 <Avatar> oh wait, is it for multiclassing
00:29:57 <Avatar> fuck
00:29:58 <Mekkis> yeah
00:30:11 <Mekkis> it allows a wizard 2 / fighter 2 to have a CL of 4
00:30:22 <Avatar> yeah I don't want to multiclass
00:30:22 <Mekkis> it does not let a wizard 4 get a CL of 6
00:30:26 <Avatar> I may as well be a goddamn sorcerer
00:31:00 <Avatar> well that's fortunate, I have magical lineage and pragmatic activator
00:31:04 <Mekkis> my most blasty character is a sorcerer
00:31:18 <Avatar> reduce metamagic by 1 on fireball, and use int for UMD
00:32:29 <Mekkis> not going Wayang Spellhunter as well?
00:33:01 <Avatar> I don't have that book
00:33:09 <Avatar> does that stack with magical lineage?
00:33:13 <Mekkis> it does
00:35:03 <Mekkis> do you really plan on using UMD?
00:35:15 <Avatar> dunno
00:35:24 <Avatar> I never plan on using it until I use it
00:36:45 <Avatar> reducing metamagic by 2 is pretty amazing though
00:37:20 <Mekkis> gifted adept?
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00:40:10 <Avatar> on the maybe list
00:41:35 <Mekkis> the most effective way of improving caster level would require UMD for a wizard
00:43:25 <Mekkis> but I suppose that for you, metamagicking fireballs is more important than pushing CL really, really high, right?
00:44:24 <Avatar> I have no idea
00:46:08 <Avatar> wait a sec I have bloody medium armor anyway !
00:46:29 <Avatar> do those penalties stack
00:46:41 <Avatar> for medium armor speed penalty + medium load
01:06:01 <Steven> brunius, cant make it to SS this next week.
01:06:07 <Steven> my mom just invited me to go on a road trip.
01:07:52 <Damalon01> bbllllaarg
01:09:53 <Avatar> ya
01:18:09 <Ballig> you take the highest one
02:14:21 <Mekkis> well.. TI83 can't. TI83+ can
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04:07:25 <Avatar> comment
04:11:43 <glacier> hi guys
04:11:46 <glacier> party hard guys
04:17:09 <Brunius> Avatar, please reschedule SS for the 23rd
04:32:23 <Avatar> rescheduled
04:52:57 <granny_boob_stroker> i love you guys
04:53:02 <granny_boob_stroker> partay hard guys!
04:53:04 <granny_boob_stroker> thanks guys
04:53:16 <granny_boob_stroker> good luck guys
04:53:20 <granny_boob_stroker> bye guys
04:53:26 <granny_boob_stroker> thanks again, guys
04:53:29 <granny_boob_stroker> ok guys
04:53:31 <granny_boob_stroker> bye guys
04:53:34 <granny_boob_stroker> cya guys
05:27:18 <Phly> hello
05:29:11 <Mekkis> hey
05:30:18 <Phly> Been a long time since i've been around here, maybe about two years
05:36:13 <roflcustard> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkeBgZcEZnQ
05:36:16 <diebot> roflcustard, How to take a Shit
06:08:27 <Mekkis> !item lion's shield
06:08:27 <diebot> Mekkis, LION'S SHIELD [moderate conjuration] CL:10 shield 9170gp, 15lb
06:08:28 <diebot> This +2 heavy steel shield is fashioned to appear to be a roaring lion's head. Three times per day as a free action, the lion's head can be commanded to attack (independently of the shield wearer), biting with the wielder's base attack bonus (including multiple attacks, if the wielder has them) and dealing 2d6 points of damage. This attack is in
06:08:28 <diebot> addition to any actions performed by the wielder. Source: Ultimate Equipment
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07:02:25 <roflcustard> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tatl1PBYim4
07:02:26 <diebot> roflcustard, Crazy Aboriginal VS Bogan
07:05:50 <Mekkis> Avatar, it always makes sense to avoid the crossbow - action economy
07:31:32 <Steven> so, i MIGHT be back in time for SS
07:31:43 <Steven> depends on what time we leave.
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08:21:51 <Mekkis> http://satwcomic.com/what-comes-around-goes-around
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08:28:49 <pissinabottle> hi
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08:29:25 <s_gmusic> idunno.
08:29:46 <s_gmusic> tired and trying to frankenstein together a way to run apple apps on my android tablet
08:30:15 <Steven> i cant wait till my wizard becomes a VC
08:30:51 <Steven> Venture Captain Ahtuz, Signifier of Cheliax, Gluttonous Necromancer of Geb.
08:31:31 <s_gmusic> heh.
08:32:03 <s_gmusic> I only wanted to get VC on a character for the new character thing.
08:34:49 <Steven> well that boon is not related to being the VC.
08:35:26 <s_gmusic> did I misread it?
08:36:42 <s_gmusic> the protege thing reads like it's part of the vc boon
08:36:46 <Steven> oh damn it is.
08:36:51 <Steven> well aint that a bitch and a half.
08:38:20 <s_gmusic> :(
08:38:42 <Steven> well my suggestion is to GM it.
08:38:59 <Steven> my VC bought the lodge
08:39:57 <Steven> its really quite broken
08:42:49 <Steven> i got mine for 17 Prestige
08:43:34 <s_gmusic> how'd you manage to reduce it by 8?
08:44:23 <Steven> boon
08:44:43 <s_gmusic> another one? I know having the title makes it 25 instead of 50.
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08:45:17 <Steven> yup another one
08:45:32 <s_gmusic> oh well
08:46:21 <Avatar> steven
08:46:26 <Avatar> what is a good reach weap
08:46:31 <Avatar> I think I need to abandon this greatsword
08:47:36 <Steven> last adventure i got 2 Lookouts and a Foreign Contact
08:47:59 <Steven> lookouts kept guard while i slept
08:48:15 <Steven> two rolls at 1d20+16 Perception
08:48:24 <Steven> i was not surprised during combat
08:49:17 <Steven> pretty awesome 4PP
08:49:55 <Mekkis> Avatar, best reach weapon is the Faulchard, but is it worth the $10 it costs?
08:51:11 <Mekkis> otherwise, Bardiche
08:51:42 <Steven> alright goin to sleep
08:52:07 <Mekkis> Lucerne hammer and Guisarme aren't bad either
08:52:10 <Mekkis> nor is lance.
08:52:31 <Mekkis> but definitely Falchard (if you want to spend $10 and Exotic Proficiency)
08:52:35 <Avatar> not fauchard for sure
08:52:43 <Avatar> for the book
08:52:50 <Mekkis> then Bardiche
08:53:12 <Mekkis> 19-20/x2 is better than x3 under most circumstances
08:53:29 <Avatar> it only has slashing
08:53:35 <Mekkis> so?
08:53:37 <Avatar> horsechopper has slashing/piercing
08:53:39 <Avatar> and trip
08:53:45 <Mekkis> it has 19-20/x2
08:53:59 <Mekkis> trip doesn't really mean anything, you knwo
08:54:43 <Mekkis> if I were you, I'd take bardiche as the main weapon, and have a lucerne hammer or lance as backup
08:54:52 <Avatar> greatsword + lucerne hammer should still work
08:54:56 <Avatar> ok that sounds like a plan
08:55:57 <Mekkis> because generally if you're critting them, x2 or x3 will kill them regardless
08:56:37 <s_gmusic> g'night
08:56:45 <Avatar> there's no bludgeoning reach weapon
08:56:50 <Mekkis> yes there is
08:56:54 <Mekkis> the Lucerne Hammer
08:57:07 <Avatar> bludgeoning only I meant
08:57:22 <Mekkis> it's bludgeoning or piercing
08:57:28 <Mekkis> choose it when you use it
08:59:01 <Mekkis> what character is this?
08:59:10 <Mekkis> I've been playing my level 1 druid...
08:59:19 <Mekkis> man he is ineffective
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09:00:35 <Mekkis> he's taken a class option that I've never seen any druids take
09:01:03 <Avatar> Judas, my sczarni paladin
09:01:14 <Avatar> I think he is ready to go after these weapons are done
09:02:22 <Mekkis> have you ever seen a druid who took an inquisition?
09:02:32 <Mekkis> rather than a domain or animal companion?
09:04:04 <Avatar> no
09:04:22 <Avatar> I think I've only ever seen one other druid who took a domain rather than an animal companion
09:05:43 <Mekkis> Darvesh?
09:06:27 <Mekkis> I now have a druid with an inquisition
09:08:35 <Mekkis> Just one year after the Windows 8 launch, Microsoft issued a free update to address some of the gripes. The system now lets people run more than two apps side by side, for instance, and its Internet Explorer browser lets people open more than 10 tabs without automatically closing older ones.
09:10:17 <Avatar> not sure if that was his name
09:10:19 <Avatar> david? I think
09:11:30 <Avatar> !item silversheen
09:11:30 <diebot> Avatar, SILVERSHEEN [faint transmutation] CL:5 none 250gp, 0lb
09:11:30 <diebot> This shimmering paste-like substance can be applied to a weapon as a standard action. It gives the weapon the properties of alchemical silver for 1 hour, replacing the properties of any other special material it might have. One vial coats a single melee weapon or 20 units of ammunition. Source: Ultimate Equipment
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09:33:06 <Avatar> I've got 14 10 16 12 8 18 for my paladin who already has a strong will save
09:33:12 <Avatar> might change that 8 to a 7 to bump dex 10 to 12
09:42:46 <Avatar> !spell hero's defiance
09:42:48 <diebot> Avatar, HERO'S DEFIANCE conjuration (healing[]) paladin 1 1 immediate action Range: personal you Comp: V Duration: instantaneous Save: SR:Source: APG
09:42:48 <diebot> The instant before you are reduced to 0 or fewer hit points, you can expend a use of your lay on hands ability to heal yourself as if you had used lay on hands, plus an additional 1d6 hit points. If this healing brings your hit point total above 0 hit points, you do not fall, and may continue to act. If you have no more uses of lay on hands this
09:42:48 <diebot> spell has no effect.
09:44:47 <Avatar> haha
09:44:53 <Avatar> pretty bad
09:48:26 <Brunius|M> Best spell
09:51:38 <Avatar> how come crossbows are a lot cheaper than bows
09:55:32 <Avatar> trying to work out what magical knack helps for a paladin
09:55:39 <Avatar> I don't know the spells well enough
09:55:43 <Avatar> or magical knack well enough
09:57:10 <Avatar> !spell weapons against evil
09:57:11 <diebot> Avatar, WEAPONS AGAINST EVIL transmutation ([]) cleric 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one weapon/level, no two of which can be more than 20 ft. apart Comp: V, DF Duration: 1 round/level Save: Fortitude negates (object) SR:yes (object)Source: Faiths Of Purity
09:57:11 <diebot> The weapons this spell affects each shine with pale light that dimly illuminates a 5-foot square. These weapons also ignore the DR of evil creatures that have DR 5 or lower as long as it is not DR/epic.
09:57:54 <Avatar> faiths of purity is a pretty good book
10:03:44 <Brunius|M> What does magical knack do?
10:03:54 <Avatar> +2 caster level
10:04:51 <Avatar> doesn't make sense to buy a bow over a light crossbow at the early levels
10:07:01 <Avatar> not really sure what that affects
10:07:15 <Avatar> damage dice, rounds/level ?
10:11:56 <Avatar> !item handy haversack
10:11:56 <diebot> Avatar, HANDY HAVERSACK [moderate conjuration] CL:9 none 2000gp, 5lb
10:11:57 <diebot> A backpack of this sort appears to be well made, well used, and quite ordinary. It has two side pouches, each of which appears large enough to hold about a quart of material. In fact, each is like a bag of holding and can actually hold material of as much as 2 cubic feet in volume or 20 pounds in weight. The large central portion of the pack can
10:11:57 <diebot> contain up to 8 cubic feet or 80 pounds of material. Even when so filled, the backpack always weighs only 5 pounds. While such storage is useful enough, the pack has an even greater power. When the wearer reaches into it for a specific item, that item is always on top. Thus, no digging around and fumbling is ever necessary to find what a haversack
10:11:57 <diebot> contains. Retrieving any specific item from a haversack is a move action, but it does not provoke the attacks of opportunity that retrieving a stored item usually does. Source: Ultimate Equipment
10:12:04 <Avatar> bloody hell 2000
10:14:51 <Avatar> don't think I can carry all this shiz
10:15:08 <Avatar> just the armor and weaps alone
10:15:32 <Avatar> side effect of that dramatic str decrease to pump up the cha
10:18:53 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=473
10:19:10 <Avatar> should be ready to go now, finally
10:22:56 <Avatar> probably on a medium load no matter what I do I think
10:49:25 <Avatar> wait a sec I have bloody medium armor anyway !
10:49:46 <Avatar> do those penalties stack
10:49:58 <Avatar> for medium armor speed penalty + medium load
11:21:25 <Ballig> you take the highest one
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14:01:56 <Damalon01> you only get so many feats after all
14:02:01 <Mekkis> Avatar, they generally do stack, but Magical Knack generally doesn't
14:10:52 <Avatar> why
14:11:13 <Avatar> why doesn't magical knack stack
14:11:29 <Avatar> Damalon01: I agree, but spell focus is a pre-req to everything else
14:13:26 <Damalon01> yup
14:14:01 <Mekkis> because it has a hard limit of your character level
14:14:31 <Mekkis> Magical knack can't cause your caster level to exceed your HD
14:14:59 <Damalon01> i think the game designers over reacted after the bad old days in 3.0, when spell power added to spell dc
14:15:13 <Avatar> that shouldn't matter though
14:15:21 <Avatar> I'd be capped now but not later
14:15:25 <Mekkis> this is still about your paladin?
14:15:42 <Avatar> no this is about one of my other characters that I have to finish level 1 retraining for
14:15:50 <Avatar> I think I have another one after this
14:16:14 <Avatar> or possibly just a regular retrain, I can't keep track
14:16:30 <Mekkis> are you going for the 'abuse high CL' stuff?
14:16:42 <Avatar> I guess so
14:16:47 <Avatar> just want a good optimised blaster
14:17:14 <Mekkis> what spells do you have in mind?
14:17:16 <Avatar> it's another almost done one
14:17:26 <Avatar> dunno, evocation focused
14:17:31 <Avatar> magic missile/fireball etc
14:17:46 <Avatar> admixture school
14:17:53 <Mekkis> wizard, not sorcerer?
14:18:20 <Avatar> yeah wizard
14:18:30 <Avatar> I have no interest in classes that get spells a level later than an alternate class
14:19:17 <Damalon01> hehehe
14:19:23 <Mekkis> so varisian tattoo?
14:20:07 <Avatar> yeah mage's tattoo
14:20:21 <Mekkis> not called that
14:20:25 <Avatar> magical knack, mage's tattoo, spell specialization
14:20:37 <Avatar> somewhere there's been a rename
14:20:41 <Mekkis> nope
14:20:48 <Avatar> pretty sure
14:20:50 <Mekkis> on d20pfsrd it's listed as that
14:20:54 <Mekkis> nowhere else
14:21:00 <Avatar> yeah it used to be listed there as varisian tattoo
14:21:13 <Avatar> I know because I was going to give it to Cairo
14:22:07 <Mekkis> but the name hasn't changed
14:22:30 <Avatar> potatoes potartoes
14:22:31 <Mekkis> anyway, magical knack won't work
14:24:06 <Avatar> looks like it does yo?
14:24:12 <Avatar> what suggests that it doesn't
14:25:25 <Mekkis> Magical Knack: You were raised, either wholly or in part,
14:25:25 <Mekkis> by a magical creature, either after it found you abandoned
14:25:25 <Mekkis> in the woods or because your parents often left you in the
14:25:25 <Mekkis> care of a magical minion. This constant exposure to magic
14:25:25 <Mekkis> has made its mysteries easy for you to understand, even
14:25:25 <Mekkis> when you turn your mind to other devotions and tasks. Pick
14:25:25 <Mekkis> a class when you gain this trait—your caster level in that
14:25:25 <Mekkis> class gains a +2 trait bonus as long as this bonus doesn’t raise your caster level above your current Hit Dice.
14:25:45 <Mekkis> apg p329
14:26:25 <Avatar> yeah but after level 2 it's all good
14:26:33 <Mekkis> you planning on multiclassing?
14:26:37 <Avatar> oh wait, is it for multiclassing
14:26:39 <Avatar> fuck
14:26:40 <Mekkis> yeah
14:26:53 <Mekkis> it allows a wizard 2 / fighter 2 to have a CL of 4
14:27:04 <Avatar> yeah I don't want to multiclass
14:27:04 <Mekkis> it does not let a wizard 4 get a CL of 6
14:27:08 <Avatar> I may as well be a goddamn sorcerer
14:27:43 <Avatar> well that's fortunate, I have magical lineage and pragmatic activator
14:27:46 <Mekkis> my most blasty character is a sorcerer
14:28:00 <Avatar> reduce metamagic by 1 on fireball, and use int for UMD
14:29:11 <Mekkis> not going Wayang Spellhunter as well?
14:29:43 <Avatar> I don't have that book
14:29:52 <Avatar> does that stack with magical lineage?
14:29:55 <Mekkis> it does
14:31:44 <Mekkis> do you really plan on using UMD?
14:31:58 <Avatar> dunno
14:32:06 <Avatar> I never plan on using it until I use it
14:33:27 <Avatar> reducing metamagic by 2 is pretty amazing though
14:34:02 <Mekkis> gifted adept?
14:36:52 <Avatar> on the maybe list
14:38:17 <Mekkis> the most effective way of improving caster level would require UMD for a wizard
14:40:07 <Mekkis> but I suppose that for you, metamagicking fireballs is more important than pushing CL really, really high, right?
14:41:06 <Avatar> I have no idea
14:44:14 <Mekkis> are you sold on wizard, or will you look at something else, if it's better at what you're trying?
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14:45:05 <Mekkis> are you sold on wizard, or will you look at something else, if it's better at what you're trying?
14:45:59 <Avatar> pretty sure nothing is better than wizard
14:46:05 <Avatar> this was meant to be an arcanist
14:46:12 <Avatar> sorcerer isn't an option
14:46:17 <Mekkis> why?
14:46:24 <Avatar> I want higher level spells asap
14:46:38 <Mekkis> in order to achieve...?
14:46:51 <Avatar> the use of higher level spells
14:47:04 <Mekkis> to blast better?
14:47:04 <Avatar> that's the top priority for the character, even above blasting
14:47:14 <Avatar> general spell use
14:47:53 <Mekkis> okay
14:54:46 <Mekkis> possibility of cleric or druid
14:55:09 <Avatar> I already have a cleric and a druid
14:55:17 <Avatar> both of which can be retrained
14:55:48 <Avatar> I want to make a shaman out of the druid if I can work out if the damn synergy fits
14:55:59 <Avatar> nobody knows and I'm sure once the ACG comes out, nobody will still know
14:56:15 <Mekkis> Aasimar. Fire domain. Preferred spell. Consecreted spell.
14:56:36 <Mekkis> spontaneously cast maximised fireballs using 3rd level slots
14:57:41 <Mekkis> alternatively, oracle, but that has delayed spell progression
15:00:27 <Avatar> nah has to be a wizard
15:00:40 <Avatar> I want to optimise as a one trick pony, but I don't actually want him to be a one trick pony
15:00:47 <Avatar> I want the arcane spells
15:01:02 <Avatar> the only real possible alternative is arcanist
15:01:21 <Avatar> it's not impossible that the character won't be played until the ACG comes out in august
15:01:37 <Mekkis> tattooed sorcerer?
15:01:50 <Mekkis> you get varisian tattoo for free then
15:02:10 <Avatar> does a tattooed sorcerer get full spell progression
15:02:29 <Mekkis> standard as arcanist/sorcerer
15:02:55 <Avatar> yeah you're right, arcanist has to be out too then
15:03:07 <Avatar> that might've been part of the reason for ditching it
15:04:16 <Mekkis> so, what will you be abusing? Fireball? Scorching Ray?
15:04:18 <Mekkis> something else?
15:04:24 <Avatar> fireball
15:04:52 <Mekkis> so. You're looking at damage and DC
15:05:18 <Mekkis> I'm assuming you'll choose a good race
15:05:20 <Mekkis> like gnome?
15:05:55 <Avatar> gnome isn't a good race
15:06:00 <Mekkis> Pyromaniac Gnomes with this racial trait are treated as one level higher when casting spells with the fire descriptor, using granted powers of the Fire domain, using the bloodline powers of the fire elemental bloodline or the revelations of the oracle's flame mystery, and determining the damage of alchemist bombs that deal fire damage (this ability does not give gnomes early access to level-based powers; it only affects the powers they could use without
15:06:00 <Mekkis> this ability). Gnomes with Charisma scores of 11 or higher also gain the following spell-like abilities: 1/day—dancing lights, flare, prestidigitation, produce flame. The caster level for these effects is equal to the gnome's level; the DCs are Charisma-based. This racial trait replaces gnome magic and illusion resistance.
15:06:10 <Avatar> this is a half-elf, I could go elf or human
15:06:44 <Avatar> that does sound good
15:06:46 <Avatar> except it's a gnome
15:07:16 <Mekkis> you racist bastard
15:08:19 <Avatar> yes I am racist against gnomes
15:08:33 <Avatar> if it makes you feel any better I don't wish genocide on them, yet
15:08:49 <Mekkis> that's not good Equity and Diversity in the Pathfinder Society
15:10:01 <Avatar> in real life I'm not in the society
15:10:31 <Mekkis> then you should try roleplaying a gnome
15:14:40 <Avatar> no I am racist
15:14:55 <Mekkis> like mort
15:15:17 <Avatar> sure
15:15:23 <Avatar> doesn't she like gnomes
15:15:36 <Avatar> that seems out of character
15:16:08 <Mekkis> she keeps talking about punting them
15:16:22 <Avatar> not like mort then
15:16:28 <Avatar> I can separate reality from fiction
15:16:48 <Mekkis> she's played Eot10 you know
15:17:56 <Avatar> what does that have to do with gnomes
15:18:10 <Mekkis> nothing
15:19:48 <Brunius> Don't you also talk about burning Lemures?
15:19:57 <Mekkis> me'?\
15:19:59 <Mekkis> no
15:20:20 <Mekkis> so. Who still uses XP?
15:20:41 <Brunius> my father
15:21:07 <Brunius> I think largely because he's in linux most of the time and hasn't got around to borrowing a key for 7 from work yet
15:33:24 <Mekkis> what sort of laptop can I get for $500 these days
15:33:56 <Avatar> which one is phly again
15:49:28 <Avatar> http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/12/portals-physics-engine-rebuilt-in-25kb-on-a-graphing-calculator/
15:52:50 <Mekkis> first sentence is WRONG
15:53:27 <Mekkis> TI83, TI84 can easily run applications with 100k of code
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15:57:16 <Avatar> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/e-g/gauntlet-inheritor-s-gauntlet
15:57:27 <Avatar> is that a good enough reason to abandon reach and go with a greatsword
16:03:36 <Avatar> comment
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17:09:07 <Mekkis> Avatar, it always makes sense to avoid the crossbow - action economy
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17:32:18 <Mekkis> Avatar, that depends. Do you really want to worship Iomodae?
17:32:35 <Avatar> even if you never plan to use it and it costs too much
17:32:42 <Avatar> for a bow
17:32:56 <Avatar> I want to get a composite longbow later
17:33:10 <Avatar> but I only have about 1300gp to spend for all my shiz
17:33:19 <Avatar> I don't know where to start
17:33:46 <Avatar> masterwork weapons, full plate, haversack?
17:34:09 <Avatar> I figure I will get a crossbow now and sell it later when I can afford a masterwork composite longbow +3
17:34:21 <Avatar> no not really
17:34:36 <Avatar> I will if the abilites are good though
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17:36:08 <Avatar> fuck I just realised I had another reason for worshipping iomedae, I want to pick up oath of vengeance
17:36:32 <Avatar> the greatsword is looking much better now
17:36:47 <Avatar> ug
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18:20:47 <Mekkis> !spell darkness
18:20:53 <diebot> Mekkis, DARKNESS evocation ([darkness]) bard 2, cleric 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, inquisitor 2, antipaladin 2, magus 2 1 standard action Range: touch object touched Comp: V, M/DF (bat fur and a piece of coal) Duration: 1 min./level Save: none SR:noSource: PFRPG Core
18:20:53 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/darkness.html
18:25:32 <Avatar> ??????
18:32:06 <pissinabottle> hi
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18:58:09 <Avatar> greatsword + lucerne hammer should still work
18:58:54 <Avatar> can't remember why I chose magical lineage on fireball
19:14:47 <Avatar> !item silversheen
19:14:47 <diebot> Avatar, SILVERSHEEN [faint transmutation] CL:5 none 250gp, 0lb
19:14:47 <diebot> This shimmering paste-like substance can be applied to a weapon as a standard action. It gives the weapon the properties of alchemical silver for 1 hour, replacing the properties of any other special material it might have. One vial coats a single melee weapon or 20 units of ammunition. Source: Ultimate Equipment
19:36:21 <Avatar> I've got 14 10 16 12 8 18 for my paladin who already has a strong will save
19:36:29 <Avatar> might change that 8 to a 7 to bump dex 10 to 12
19:43:53 <Mekkis> I'm making a druid/witch specialised in summoning
19:46:04 <Avatar> !spell hero's defiance
19:46:05 <diebot> Avatar, HERO'S DEFIANCE conjuration (healing[]) paladin 1 1 immediate action Range: personal you Comp: V Duration: instantaneous Save: SR:Source: APG
19:46:05 <diebot> The instant before you are reduced to 0 or fewer hit points, you can expend a use of your lay on hands ability to heal yourself as if you had used lay on hands, plus an additional 1d6 hit points. If this healing brings your hit point total above 0 hit points, you do not fall, and may continue to act. If you have no more uses of lay on hands this
19:46:05 <diebot> spell has no effect.
19:51:44 <Brunius|M> Best spell
19:54:33 <Avatar> what about my reach/greatsword dilemma
19:58:50 <Avatar> trying to work out what magical knack helps for a paladin
19:58:55 <Avatar> I don't know the spells well enough
19:59:00 <Avatar> or magical knack well enough
19:59:35 <Mekkis> !spell share memory
19:59:35 <diebot> Mekkis, SHARE MEMORY divination ([]) bard 2, sorcerer/wizard 2, witch 2 1 standard action Range: touch you and one creature touched Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates SR:yesSource: Ultimate Magic
19:59:36 <diebot> You momentarily link your mind with the target and share a single memory of no longer than 1 minute. You can show the target one of your memories, show the target one of its own memories, or view one of the target's memories.
20:00:27 <Avatar> !spell weapons against evil
20:00:28 <diebot> Avatar, WEAPONS AGAINST EVIL transmutation ([]) cleric 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one weapon/level, no two of which can be more than 20 ft. apart Comp: V, DF Duration: 1 round/level Save: Fortitude negates (object) SR:yes (object)Source: Faiths Of Purity
20:00:28 <diebot> The weapons this spell affects each shine with pale light that dimly illuminates a 5-foot square. These weapons also ignore the DR of evil creatures that have DR 5 or lower as long as it is not DR/epic.
20:01:11 <Avatar> faiths of purity is a pretty good book
20:07:02 <Brunius|M> What does magical knack do?
20:07:12 <Avatar> +2 caster level
20:07:40 <Avatar> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/religion-traits/magic-is-life-god-of-magic
20:07:42 <Avatar> holy shit
20:10:18 <Avatar> not really sure what that affects
20:10:32 <Avatar> damage dice, rounds/level ?
20:22:10 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=473
20:22:27 <Avatar> should be ready to go now, finally
20:41:12 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> anyone here selling a book called experimental methods by Les kirkup?
20:41:26 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> thanks guys
20:45:14 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> party hard guys
20:45:22 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> keep u[ the good work guys
20:45:24 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> thanks guys
20:45:28 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> bye guys
20:45:32 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> have fun guys
20:45:53 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> and if u ever need me in your clan, please let me know ok guys?
20:45:56 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> thanks guys
20:46:09 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> ill be first in line, guys
20:46:11 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> thanks guys
20:46:17 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> seeya guys
20:46:21 <Mekkis> !spell ghostbane dirge
20:46:22 <diebot> Mekkis, GHOSTBANE DIRGE transmutation ([]) bard 2, cleric 2, inquisitor 2, paladin 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one incorporeal creature Comp: V, S, M/DF (an old reed from a wind instrument) Duration: 1 round/level Save: Will negates SR:yesSource: APG
20:46:23 <diebot> The target coalesces into a semi-physical form for a short period of time. While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects.
20:46:24 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> take care guys
20:46:32 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> hoo roo guys
20:46:36 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> thanks guys
20:46:50 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> ok guys
20:46:56 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> im about to go ok guys?
20:46:58 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> thanks guys
20:47:01 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> bye guys
20:47:08 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> thanks again, guys
20:47:18 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> cya guys
20:48:10 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> hopr u guys dont mind me sitting here for another hour while i wait for my lunch to cook
20:48:15 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> thanks guys
20:48:25 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> ill wait here quietly ok guys?
20:48:32 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> thanks heaps guys
20:48:36 <MatureAgeTafeStudent> .
20:53:05 <Mekkis> What is it with the massive number of skillless Pathfinders?
20:59:36 <Avatar> what
20:59:48 <Steven> not that spectacular.
21:05:04 <Avatar> not if you're never unconscious, I guess!
21:06:46 <Steven> autostabalize and +2 vs death effects
21:07:04 <Avatar> that is a life-saving trait
21:08:17 <Avatar> you don't explain yourself very much Mekkis
21:12:49 <Mekkis> we have a party, with ints of 7, 8, 8 and 10
21:14:18 <Mekkis> so yeah, a lot of really combat-focused characters with no skill to speak of
21:14:26 <Mekkis> !item gem of brightness
21:14:27 <diebot> Mekkis, GEM OF BRIGHTNESS [moderate evocation] CL:6 none 13000gp, 0lb
21:14:28 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/gem_of_brightness.html
21:20:49 <Avatar> PFS?
21:23:34 <Mekkis> yeah
21:33:13 <Mekkis> so many big stupid fighters
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22:18:45 <Avatar> 2+int
22:18:58 <Avatar> you're the one who's saying always choose hp for favoured class points
22:36:53 <TafeStudent> hello/good morning/aloha/greetings/saluatations, guys!
22:37:08 <TafeStudent> id like to apply for a position
22:37:18 <TafeStudent> within your organistaion/clan
22:37:37 <TafeStudent> I enclose my resume for your persual...
22:37:39 <TafeStudent> thanks guys
22:37:49 <TafeStudent> ta
22:37:51 <TafeStudent> guys
22:38:12 <TafeStudent> bye
22:38:14 <TafeStudent> guys
22:39:13 <AngryMidget> what are the kingdom classifications of bacteria?
22:40:53 <Mekkis> AngryirishMidget, what's the link to your resume?
22:43:08 <AngryirishMidget> you dont think im that obtuse do you?
22:43:37 <Brunius> `op
22:44:05 <Brunius> `deop
22:44:33 <Mekkis> !capacity 10
22:44:34 <diebot> Mekkis, 33 if medium, 24.75 if small.
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23:21:51 <Avatar> do bonuses to caster level from different sources stack
23:22:13 <Mekkis> I'm also the one saying put more than 9 int
23:34:48 <Damalon01> i think so Avatar
23:38:12 <Avatar> seems a bit absurd
23:38:39 <Avatar> could take spell specialization and mage's tattoo for +2 and +1
23:38:52 <Avatar> 3 feats worth with spell focus as well
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