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00:04:59 <Warren1984> Jen
00:05:15 <anotherirc3r> heya Warren :)
00:05:48 <Warren1984> hey doctor
00:05:50 <Warren1984> Marttin
00:05:51 <Warren1984> ajnin
00:05:56 <Warren1984> erlich
00:15:53 <Marttin> Hi warren
00:26:12 <Marttin> Jen, brett has been asking for you, yesterday and today
00:27:40 <anotherirc3r> yay?
00:31:55 <Marttin> Yep
00:32:15 <Marttin> Try to be on earlier tomorrow to satisfy him
00:35:23 <anotherirc3r> pass
00:35:29 <anotherirc3r> he'll live
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00:39:48 <Marttin> Warren1984 www.cnet.com/news/stephen-hawking-says-we-should-be-more-frightened-of-capitalism-than-robots/
00:41:14 <Marttin> Thats why people on d$p shouldnt be thinking on killing themselvs but to make the big business property of the state
00:47:22 <Warren1984> Marttin it's the limitations of certain personality types
00:47:37 <Warren1984> ESTJ's are good for society because they value society
00:47:54 <Warren1984> however they are materialistic and prefer instant gratification
00:48:11 <Warren1984> which means they think there deserve more than others
00:48:16 <Warren1984> imagine seaguls
00:48:36 <Warren1984> the bully seagul will want everything
00:48:50 <Warren1984> and hurt the other seaguls at not matter what cost
00:49:06 <Warren1984> just because it thinks it's superior to other seaguls
00:49:07 <Marttin> Warren, the only personality type that shall not be welcomed in the world are the ones that would ruin lives to get more
00:49:19 <Warren1984> the same can be true for any animal including humans
00:49:50 <Warren1984> Marttin the problem is more deep seated than that
00:50:31 <Warren1984> If you have ISTJs and ESTJs who value society, however they will be unhappy if they were poor, what can you do?
00:50:44 <Warren1984> If you make them poor then they won't value society
00:50:54 <Marttin> No one needs to be poor warren
00:50:55 <Warren1984> and civilization would crumble
00:51:15 <Warren1984> but those who are rich are rich because they make others poor
00:51:38 <Warren1984> they use and bully others to get what they want
00:51:41 <Warren1984> sociopaths
00:52:00 <Warren1984> they think they are the leader of the pack of wolves
00:52:06 <Warren1984> and deserve all the good stuff
00:52:24 <Warren1984> that is why the earth is a fucked up place to live
00:52:37 <Warren1984> and other factors are involved
00:52:47 <Marttin> Im not sure how wolves work
00:52:58 <Warren1984> survival of the fittest
00:53:06 <Warren1984> is the leader of the pack
00:53:32 <Marttin> But humans can use intelligence, a majority can defeat a tyrannic leader if they want, it only requires thinking and talk
00:54:15 <Warren1984> but not everyone is intelligent
00:54:33 <Warren1984> and those who are intelligent do not value society
00:54:49 <Marttin> So one wolf fucks every wolverine while the others stay furious simply looking at him instead of attacking all together?
00:55:07 <Warren1984> take an ENTJ as an example and compare them to ESTJ
00:55:24 <Warren1984> the ENTJ is intellectual and a high achiever
00:55:38 <Warren1984> the ESTJ is a high achiever but not intellectual
00:55:47 <Warren1984> now the ENTJs don't value society
00:55:53 <Warren1984> for example
00:56:22 <Marttin> 4 out of 5 russians were farmers on 1915 that didnt know how to write, but they realized they desserved more and went for it
00:56:26 <Warren1984> ENTJs don't back down when threatened, take their anger out on others
00:56:40 <Marttin> Do you know anyone who cannot read or write right now?
00:56:49 <Warren1984> a few
00:57:05 <Warren1984> Marttin here is a good example
00:57:17 <Warren1984> I could be a very intelligent dictator
00:57:24 <Warren1984> now take the police as an example
00:57:37 <Warren1984> most police are generally ESTJ or ISTJ
00:57:57 <Warren1984> now both value society and expect others to obey the law
00:58:13 <Warren1984> they keep society civilized
00:58:34 <Warren1984> however they want material things in return for their efforts
00:58:35 <Marttin> Personality types cant be worked out? To change them?
00:58:41 <Warren1984> no
00:59:00 <Warren1984> why do you think there are so many corrupt cops in the world?
00:59:29 <Warren1984> because they are materialistic
00:59:31 <Marttin> Because they grew up like that
00:59:38 <Warren1984> no
00:59:38 <Marttin> Well, that too
00:59:41 <Warren1984> materialism
01:00:01 <Warren1984> as the bible says "the love of money is the root cause of all kinds of evil"
01:00:21 <Marttin> Some people turns out buddhist monk or something at the age of 40
01:00:55 <Warren1984> but do you expect cops to value society and keep us civilized?
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01:01:32 <Marttin> No, i expect citizens to make sure their cops do ot, or otherwise they are going to put them on jail
01:01:36 <Warren1984> do you value nurses to keep you alive and serve you in hospital?
01:01:56 <Warren1984> yeah Marttin it doesn't work like that though
01:02:15 <Marttin> If the cops are corrupted, the politics are, if the politics are corrupted, there is no democracy and the people must take over that goverment
01:02:53 <Warren1984> exactly
01:03:06 <Warren1984> but it's to do with the love of money
01:03:27 <Marttin> And personal values
01:03:39 Nick: Osskkaarr is now known as breaker
01:04:45 <Marttin> If the vast majority finds despicable the fact that one would take others money for his own, the materialist type would be more concerned about doing it
01:05:10 <Marttin> And if he knows in case of doing it the punishment will be enourmous even more
01:11:19 Nick: breaker is now known as Osskkaarr
01:26:39 <Tigger_> past middnight, time to press F8 in CherryTree
01:34:18 <Warren1984> yes Tigger_
01:34:26 <Warren1984> did you complete all the SOPs?
01:34:38 <Warren1984> and then bind them together
01:34:50 <Tigger_> no, I will finish the chocolate icecream SOP tomorrow
01:34:58 <Tigger_> I still have some research to do
01:35:19 <Tigger_> also I have to do up a new bread making SOP for the breville breadmaker
01:37:18 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you know what I hate at TAFE
01:37:35 <Tigger_> the sarcasm?
01:37:47 <Warren1984> is most people are relaxed and I am at my most energetic in the morning
01:38:06 <Warren1984> after having 5 no-doz and energy drinks
01:38:15 <Warren1984> I just like to get my chores out of the way
01:38:27 <Warren1984> and then sit down and talk on here
01:38:59 <Warren1984> I could have fun after my chores
01:39:07 <Warren1984> like watching DVDs
01:39:31 <Warren1984> I hate coming back from TAFE and needing to spend all that time re-listening to all of it
01:39:40 <Warren1984> just because my short term memory is bad
01:40:20 <Tigger_> this is a quandry
01:40:34 <Tigger_> does it work?
01:43:54 <Warren1984> quandry?
01:45:06 <Tigger_> quandary, rather
01:48:40 <Warren1984> could be Tigger_
01:49:34 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what would clip clop do if someone tried to discharge a capacitor on his balls?
01:49:53 <Warren1984> would he give them free dentist work
01:50:30 <Warren1984> would he kick them in the chest and stop their heart
01:52:01 <Warren1984> clip clop would be good for CPR
01:52:03 <Tigger_> probably stomp your stinker into a pulp
01:52:11 <Warren1984> lol Tigger_
01:52:31 <Warren1984> aren't tasers huge capicitors
01:53:51 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTIwWGWICCU
01:53:52 <progressive> [ How To Make a 330 volt Taser for under $5 - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
01:57:04 <Tigger_> invent a robot to rob banks
01:58:38 <Tigger_> then you don't have to actually be there in person to rob the banks
01:58:50 <Warren1984> I wonder why terrorists have never bombed something electrical
01:59:03 <Tigger_> too stupid, they're not very smart
01:59:15 <Warren1984> it sounds cool when that capacitor charges up don't you think?
01:59:53 <Tigger_> what you do is invent a robot that goes inside the bank to rob it, then it takes the money out to a drone that flies off with it, and the robot having done its job self destructs, leaving no evidence
02:04:51 <Tigger_> oh and the drone flies to your van waiting in the forest where you've been operating it by remote control, nobody can see you or track the drone there
02:10:54 <Warren1984> Tigger_ remember this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J95LsygVMaQ
02:10:55 <progressive> [ ANIMAL ATTACK - Horse Attacks Guy in Retaliation (MOST DARING) - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
02:11:23 <Tigger_> if you had a horse would you rob banks?
02:12:26 <Warren1984> yeah
02:12:40 <doctor> hey waz
02:13:00 <Tigger_> the police would never expect it, and you could ride your horse through the forest where police cars can't go
02:13:47 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmWftommtzs
02:13:48 <progressive> [ Gay, A Very Itchy Horse - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
02:14:29 <Warren1984> nite
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02:17:30 <Tigger_> night too
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08:04:00 <tisk> glenn is scum
08:05:00 <tisk> glenn is scum
08:05:01 <tisk> glenn is scum
08:05:02 <tisk> glenn is scum
08:05:03 <tisk> glenn is scum
08:06:00 <tisk> my shit back together will be when i get told the truth
08:06:00 <tisk> fucken scum
08:06:19 <tisk> my shit back together will be when i get told the truth
08:06:21 <tisk> my shit back together will be when i get told the truth
08:06:22 <tisk> my shit back together will be when i get told the truth
08:06:52 <tisk> fucken scum
08:06:53 <tisk> fucken scum
08:06:54 <tisk> fucken scum
08:06:55 <tisk> fucken scum
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08:20:26 Nick: Arbition is now known as Abortion
08:21:00 <tisk> opps sorry guys
08:21:30 <tisk> opps sorry guys
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08:26:00 <tisk> :) my bathroom light is gonna get fixed
08:26:00 <tisk> :)
08:26:37 <tisk> :) my bathroom light is gonna get fixed
08:26:39 <tisk> :)
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09:47:00 <Abortion> wat
09:47:39 <Abortion> wat
09:54:00 <tisk> so bored
09:54:00 <tisk> lols
09:54:07 <tisk> so bored
09:54:09 <tisk> lols
10:11:00 <Warren1984> hey all
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10:12:05 <Warren1984> hey all
10:14:00 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
10:14:20 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
10:17:00 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
10:17:00 <Warren1984> got TAFE just now
10:17:00 <Tigger_> got your lunch packed?
10:17:00 <Warren1984> nuh going to have some chips there
10:17:00 <Warren1984> because they make it exactly like yours
10:17:06 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
10:17:10 <Warren1984> got TAFE just now
10:17:28 <Tigger_> got your lunch packed?
10:17:48 <Warren1984> nuh going to have some chips there
10:18:00 <Tigger_> how much do they cost?
10:18:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ has clip clop planned a suicidal bombing in revenge for the loss of his fellow horses at the last Melbourne Cup?
10:18:00 <Warren1984> $5 for a large
10:18:00 <Warren1984> $6 for wedges
10:18:03 <Warren1984> because they make it exactly like yours
10:18:26 <Tigger_> how much do they cost?
10:18:51 <Warren1984> Tigger_ has clip clop planned a suicidal bombing in revenge for the loss of his fellow horses at the last Melbourne Cup?
10:18:58 <Warren1984> $5 for a large
10:19:00 <Tigger_> I worked out that for $7 worth of potatoes I can make $120 worth of McDonalds style fries
10:19:00 <Warren1984> that is good
10:19:00 <Tigger_> yes, big savings if you know what to do
10:19:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ has clip clop planned a suicidal bombing in revenge for the loss of his fellow horses at the last Melbourne Cup?
10:19:04 <Warren1984> $6 for wedges
10:19:16 <Tigger_> I worked out that for $7 worth of potatoes I can make $120 worth of McDonalds style fries
10:19:38 <Warren1984> that is good
10:19:54 <Tigger_> yes, big savings if you know what to do
10:20:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ has clip clop planned a suicidal bombing in revenge for the loss of his fellow horses at the last Melbourne Cup?
10:20:00 <Tigger_> he doesn't follow the Melbourne Cup anymore, as he feels it got too commercialised
10:20:24 <Tigger_> he doesn't follow the Melbourne Cup anymore, as he feels it got too commercialised
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13:37:00 <Warren1984> hi all
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13:38:00 <Warren1984> hi all
13:43:00 <Glenn> HI Warren1984
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13:44:00 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984, Glenn, anotherirc3r, shugenja
13:44:00 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
13:44:00 <Warren1984> Jen
13:44:00 <anotherirc3r> Tigger!
13:44:00 <Warren1984> Glenn
13:44:00 <Warren1984> shugenja
13:44:00 <anotherirc3r> heya Warren :)
13:44:15 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984, Glenn, anotherirc3r, shugenja
13:44:30 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
13:44:32 <Warren1984> Jen
13:44:33 <anotherirc3r> Tigger!
13:44:35 <Warren1984> Glenn
13:44:39 <Warren1984> shugenja
13:44:41 <anotherirc3r> heya Warren :)
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13:52:00 <shugenja> hey Jen, Warren, et al
13:52:00 <shugenja> yo Tigs
13:52:40 <shugenja> hey Jen, Warren, et al
13:52:55 <shugenja> yo Tigs
13:57:00 <tisk> glenn
13:57:00 <tisk> be an adult
13:57:00 <tisk> that cunt calls me junkie all the time
13:57:00 <tisk> do u fucken bann him
13:57:00 <tisk> grow the fuck up
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13:57:20 <tisk> glenn
13:57:26 <tisk> be an adult
13:57:39 <tisk> that cunt calls me junkie all the time
13:57:43 <tisk> do u fucken bann him
13:57:52 <tisk> grow the fuck up
13:58:00 <Abortion> The more you complain, the more we see you complain
13:58:26 <Abortion> The more you complain, the more we see you complain
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13:59:00 <shugenja_> sry abt my connexion
13:59:00 <shugenja_> hey Jen, Warren, et al
13:59:00 <shugenja_> yo Tigs
13:59:00 <shugenja_> yo Tisk
13:59:00 <anotherirc3r> heya shugenja
13:59:28 <shugenja_> sry abt my connexion
13:59:39 <shugenja_> hey Jen, Warren, et al
13:59:42 <shugenja_> yo Tigs
13:59:46 <shugenja_> yo Tisk
13:59:58 <anotherirc3r> heya shugenja
14:02:00 <shugenja_> bbl
14:02:52 <shugenja_> bbl
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14:21:00 <Warren1984> Jen do you think it's ok for me to not attend TAFE when they are doing something irrelvant
14:21:00 <Warren1984> like today went were learning how to cut and bend metal
14:21:00 <Warren1984> but in the real world you won't need to know how to do this to fix computers
14:21:16 <Warren1984> Jen do you think it's ok for me to not attend TAFE when they are doing something irrelvant
14:21:30 <Warren1984> like today went were learning how to cut and bend metal
14:21:50 <Warren1984> but in the real world you won't need to know how to do this to fix computers
14:22:00 <anotherirc3r> damn phone
14:22:00 <Warren1984> wb Jen
14:22:00 <Warren1984> Jen do you think it's ok for me to not attend TAFE when they are doing something irrelvant
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14:22:45 <anotherirc3r> damn phone
14:22:51 <Warren1984> wb Jen
14:23:00 <Warren1984> like today went were learning how to cut and bend metal
14:23:00 <Warren1984> but in the real world you won't need to know how to do this to fix computers
14:23:00 <anotherirc3r> if you're attending TAFE Warren you should go to all of the lessons
14:23:00 <anotherirc3r> can't hurt learning new things
14:23:00 <Abortion> Even if its not directly related, metalwork could still be useful
14:23:02 <Warren1984> Jen do you think it's ok for me to not attend TAFE when they are doing something irrelvant
14:23:10 <Warren1984> like today went were learning how to cut and bend metal
14:23:15 <Warren1984> but in the real world you won't need to know how to do this to fix computers
14:23:20 <anotherirc3r> if you're attending TAFE Warren you should go to all of the lessons
14:23:32 <anotherirc3r> can't hurt learning new things
14:23:41 <Abortion> Even if its not directly related, metalwork could still be useful
14:24:00 <Abortion> though arguably I think carpentry would be more useful
14:24:00 <Abortion> I'm thinking of doing some of that kind of stuff
14:24:00 <Warren1984> yeah you could be right Jen
14:24:00 <Warren1984> but so far the course has not talked about computers
14:24:15 <Abortion> though arguably I think carpentry would be more useful
14:24:28 <Abortion> I'm thinking of doing some of that kind of stuff
14:24:45 <Warren1984> yeah you could be right Jen
14:24:58 <Warren1984> but so far the course has not talked about computers
14:25:00 <Warren1984> and how to fix them
14:25:00 <Warren1984> it's been over 2 months now
14:25:00 <anotherirc3r> what's the name of the course?
14:25:10 <Warren1984> and how to fix them
14:25:22 <Warren1984> it's been over 2 months now
14:25:50 <anotherirc3r> what's the name of the course?
14:26:00 <Abortion> Have you done any soldering work?
14:26:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ said I should focus on 1st health & diet 2nd cooking and 3rd saving money
14:26:00 <Tigger_> yes indeed
14:26:00 <Warren1984> cert II in computer assembly and repair
14:26:00 <Abortion> So what have you done in these two months?
14:26:00 <Tigger_> but you may as well finish the course since you've paid for it
14:26:13 <Abortion> Have you done any soldering work?
14:26:13 <Warren1984> Tigger_ said I should focus on 1st health & diet 2nd cooking and 3rd saving money
14:26:25 <Tigger_> yes indeed
14:26:29 <Warren1984> cert II in computer assembly and repair
14:26:58 <Abortion> So what have you done in these two months?
14:27:00 <Warren1984> there must be subjective reasons for learning something esp if you are on the D$P
14:27:00 <Abortion> One thought that comes to mind is, there are no places assembling desktops anymore other than MSY, and frankly that requires no training.
14:27:00 <Warren1984> otherwise how do you build your self-confidence and set your priorities
14:27:00 <Abortion> Laptop manufacturing may well involve metal work
14:27:00 <Warren1984> that is done in China
14:27:03 <Tigger_> but you may as well finish the course since you've paid for it
14:27:19 <Warren1984> there must be subjective reasons for learning something esp if you are on the D$P
14:27:31 <Abortion> One thought that comes to mind is, there are no places assembling desktops anymore other than MSY, and frankly that requires no training.
14:27:47 <Warren1984> otherwise how do you build your self-confidence and set your priorities
14:27:52 <Abortion> Laptop manufacturing may well involve metal work
14:28:00 <Abortion> So what assembly would you even be doing?
14:28:00 <Warren1984> well we haven't done any yet
14:28:00 <Abortion> If you're repairing laptops, you may be remanufacturing hinges for laptops?
14:28:00 <Tigger_> Dell do their manufacturing in Malaysia
14:28:00 <Warren1984> but it's mainly about the hardware on computers
14:28:00 <Tigger_> it's pretty much monkey work, like building lego
14:28:00 <Warren1984> hinges for laptops
14:28:05 <Warren1984> that is done in China
14:28:18 <Abortion> So what assembly would you even be doing?
14:28:31 <Warren1984> well we haven't done any yet
14:28:37 <Abortion> If you're repairing laptops, you may be remanufacturing hinges for laptops?
14:28:40 <Tigger_> Dell do their manufacturing in Malaysia
14:28:42 <Warren1984> but it's mainly about the hardware on computers
14:29:00 <Tigger_> it's pretty much monkey work, like building lego
14:29:00 <Abortion> I could bash your ear off about that and that'd probably be more comprehensive
14:29:00 <Abortion> Have you looked at the curiculum Warren1984?
14:29:00 <Warren1984> yeah
14:29:03 <Warren1984> hinges for laptops
14:29:14 <Abortion> I could bash your ear off about that and that'd probably be more comprehensive
14:29:43 <Abortion> Have you looked at the curiculum Warren1984?
14:29:51 <Warren1984> yeah
14:30:00 <Abortion> Give us a summary of what is in there
14:30:00 <Warren1984> they added electronics qualification into the computer assembly and repair
14:30:00 <Tigger_> there are probably still TAFE courses in wagon wheel making and repair
14:30:00 <Abortion> So multimeter and a soldering iron
14:30:00 <Warren1984> yeah
14:30:00 <Abortion> Do they teach you about how to make filter circuits?
14:30:00 <Abortion> Power supply repair (I do mean repair and not replacement)
14:30:10 <Abortion> Give us a summary of what is in there
14:30:13 <Warren1984> they added electronics qualification into the computer assembly and repair
14:30:27 <Tigger_> there are probably still TAFE courses in wagon wheel making and repair
14:30:28 <Abortion> So multimeter and a soldering iron
14:30:39 <Warren1984> yeah
14:30:48 <Abortion> Do they teach you about how to make filter circuits?
14:30:59 <Abortion> Power supply repair (I do mean repair and not replacement)
14:31:00 <Warren1984> dunno
14:31:00 <Warren1984> what are filter circuits
14:31:00 <Abortion> Will you be using an oscilloscope to check the quality of power from a power supply?
14:31:00 <Warren1984> most likely yes
14:31:00 <Abortion> a circuit designed to suppress voltage spikes usually
14:31:31 <Warren1984> dunno
14:31:35 <Warren1984> what are filter circuits
14:31:40 <Abortion> Will you be using an oscilloscope to check the quality of power from a power supply?
14:31:56 <Warren1984> most likely yes
14:31:57 <Abortion> a circuit designed to suppress voltage spikes usually
14:32:00 <Abortion> In an audio context, to pass through a particular range of frequencies
14:32:00 <Abortion> in power supplies you're after mostly DC though
14:32:00 <Abortion> So they'd better teach you about Switch Mode Power Supplies then
14:32:26 <Abortion> In an audio context, to pass through a particular range of frequencies
14:32:28 <Abortion> in power supplies you're after mostly DC though
14:32:58 <Abortion> So they'd better teach you about Switch Mode Power Supplies then
14:33:00 <Abortion> because without knowing how they work, you won't be able to troubleshoot that segment properly
14:33:00 <Abortion> though lots of SMPS just use Integrated Circuits and a bunch of capacitors and inductors
14:33:00 <Abortion> Good start would be to read some Computer Power supply teardowns
14:33:16 <Abortion> because without knowing how they work, you won't be able to troubleshoot that segment properly
14:33:42 <Abortion> though lots of SMPS just use Integrated Circuits and a bunch of capacitors and inductors
14:34:00 <Abortion> This site is good, and this article is a good place to start http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/why-99-percent-of-power-supply-reviews-are-wrong/
14:34:00 <progressive> [ Why 99% of Power Supply Reviews Are Wrong - Hardware Secrets ] - www.hardwaresecrets.com
14:34:05 <Abortion> Good start would be to read some Computer Power supply teardowns
14:34:32 <Abortion> This site is good, and this article is a good place to start http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/why-99-percent-of-power-supply-reviews-are-wrong/
14:34:33 <progressive> [ Why 99% of Power Supply Reviews Are Wrong - Hardware Secrets ] - www.hardwaresecrets.com
14:36:00 <Abortion> Power supply design is a lot more involved though (and beyond me) but that should be a good start for understanding
14:36:35 <Abortion> Power supply design is a lot more involved though (and beyond me) but that should be a good start for understanding
14:37:00 <Tigger_> I know nothing about power supplies, I just hope that all PSUs in a given price range are roughly the same basic quality, and then I just select for features
14:37:34 <Tigger_> I know nothing about power supplies, I just hope that all PSUs in a given price range are roughly the same basic quality, and then I just select for features
14:38:00 <Abortion> As for getting a decent multimeter, there are a couple of places that have reviewed cheap ones, done by the kinds of people who hang around eevblog
14:38:00 <Abortion> Keep an eye on Hack A Day, every now an then a useful article comes through
14:38:29 <Abortion> As for getting a decent multimeter, there are a couple of places that have reviewed cheap ones, done by the kinds of people who hang around eevblog
14:39:00 <Abortion> I usually watch out for power supplies done by Seasonic
14:39:00 <Abortion> Seasonic have the best name in computer power supplies
14:39:04 <Abortion> Keep an eye on Hack A Day, every now an then a useful article comes through
14:39:45 <Abortion> I usually watch out for power supplies done by Seasonic
14:40:00 <Tigger_> I'll keep that in mind
14:40:00 <Abortion> but don't advertise much, they tend to contract manufacturing for other companies
14:40:00 <Abortion> such as Antec
14:40:00 <Tigger_> so buy Antec and get Seasonic?
14:40:00 <Abortion> who for the last couple of years have thus carried good power supplies
14:40:00 <Abortion> Not always, but they do some of Antec's power supplies
14:40:03 <Abortion> Seasonic have the best name in computer power supplies
14:40:14 <Tigger_> I'll keep that in mind
14:40:17 <Abortion> but don't advertise much, they tend to contract manufacturing for other companies
14:40:19 <Abortion> such as Antec
14:40:31 <Tigger_> so buy Antec and get Seasonic?
14:40:35 <Abortion> who for the last couple of years have thus carried good power supplies
14:40:57 <Abortion> Not always, but they do some of Antec's power supplies
14:41:00 <Abortion> I have a True Power New that still seems to be going strong
14:41:00 <Abortion> that range is no longer available, but the current True Power Classic, from my reading, is also done by Seasonic
14:41:00 <Abortion> I say a, I actually got another two at work
14:41:00 <Tigger_> what I have in this machine is: OCZ Fatalt1ty 550W Modular PSU
14:41:15 <Abortion> I have a True Power New that still seems to be going strong
14:41:30 <Abortion> that range is no longer available, but the current True Power Classic, from my reading, is also done by Seasonic
14:41:50 <Abortion> I say a, I actually got another two at work
14:42:06 <Tigger_> what I have in this machine is: OCZ Fatalt1ty 550W Modular PSU
14:43:00 <Abortion> done by Sirtec according to http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/psu_manufacturers "The Impervio units and some Sirtec models are excellent."
14:43:00 <Abortion> That list isn't comprehensive
14:43:00 <Abortion> but I keep it handy
14:43:07 <Abortion> done by Sirtec according to http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/psu_manufacturers "The Impervio units and some Sirtec models are excellent."
14:43:27 <Abortion> That list isn't comprehensive
14:43:30 <Abortion> but I keep it handy
14:44:00 <Tigger_> Fatal1ty 400W, 550W, 750W – Sirtec
14:44:00 <Tigger_> OCZ used FSP as its OEM manufacturer for a long time. Their PSUs were of questionable quality, being based on the Epsilon model. However, they have taken a big step forward since acquiring PC Power & Cooling in 2007. The Impervio units and some Sirtec models are excellent.
14:44:28 <Tigger_> Fatal1ty 400W, 550W, 750W – Sirtec
14:44:57 <Tigger_> OCZ used FSP as its OEM manufacturer for a long time. Their PSUs were of questionable quality, being based on the Epsilon model. However, they have taken a big step forward since acquiring PC Power & Cooling in 2007. The Impervio units and some Sirtec models are excellent.
14:45:00 <Tigger_> well it hasn't given me any issues after two years
14:45:00 <Abortion> Thats good
14:45:00 <Warren1984> guess I better go back to TAFE then and not be afraid of learning something new
14:45:00 <Warren1984> cya later people
14:45:13 <Tigger_> well it hasn't given me any issues after two years
14:45:22 <Abortion> Thats good
14:45:40 <Warren1984> guess I better go back to TAFE then and not be afraid of learning something new
14:45:47 <Warren1984> cya later people
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14:46:00 <Tigger_> the machine has been faultless in every way actually, I only bought parts that were well reviewed
14:46:58 <Tigger_> the machine has been faultless in every way actually, I only bought parts that were well reviewed
14:47:00 <Tigger_> so reviews aren't entirely useless, particularly that even if they don't know much, I know even less
14:47:28 <Tigger_> so reviews aren't entirely useless, particularly that even if they don't know much, I know even less
14:55:00 <Abortion> Motherboards are one of the few things that are hard to get reliability of. CPU is safe, most RAM is safe, PSU is easily torn down and reviewed. Hard drives/SSD vary lots over time but there is usually something safe.
14:55:44 <Abortion> Motherboards are one of the few things that are hard to get reliability of. CPU is safe, most RAM is safe, PSU is easily torn down and reviewed. Hard drives/SSD vary lots over time but there is usually something safe.
14:56:00 <Abortion> Graphics cards have some brands which are dodgy and others which are reliable
14:56:30 <Abortion> Graphics cards have some brands which are dodgy and others which are reliable
14:57:00 <Abortion> Asus and Zotac/Sapphire are well regarded. Gigabyte has had some issue with cards around 4 years ago, cheap you're got no idea
14:57:00 <Abortion> Thermals are usually the thing
14:57:00 <Tigger_> well I know to stay away from Kingston SSDs, thanks to their bait and switch tactics. but Intel, Crucial, and Samsung are supposed to be quite consistent
14:57:16 <Abortion> Asus and Zotac/Sapphire are well regarded. Gigabyte has had some issue with cards around 4 years ago, cheap you're got no idea
14:57:30 <Abortion> Thermals are usually the thing
14:57:35 <Tigger_> well I know to stay away from Kingston SSDs, thanks to their bait and switch tactics. but Intel, Crucial, and Samsung are supposed to be quite consistent
14:58:00 <Abortion> Samsung make good SSD hardware, but have had a couple of firmware botches
14:58:00 <Abortion> Intel has always put lots of effort into their firmware
14:58:00 <Abortion> and generally pick good hardware
14:58:00 <Abortion> Dunno about crucial really
14:58:00 <Abortion> The days of early Sandforce are over at least...
14:58:18 <Abortion> Samsung make good SSD hardware, but have had a couple of firmware botches
14:58:35 <Abortion> Intel has always put lots of effort into their firmware
14:58:41 <Abortion> and generally pick good hardware
14:58:52 <Abortion> Dunno about crucial really
14:59:00 <Tigger_> Sandforce?
14:59:00 <Abortion> It was a generation of SSD controllers used by a lot of manufacturers which was plagued with issues
14:59:00 <Tigger_> oh right
14:59:00 <Tigger_> how long ago? I only started using SSDs two years ago
14:59:00 <Abortion> idk if there is a new generation, but I haven't heard of such a wide scale fuck up in more recent times
14:59:05 <Abortion> The days of early Sandforce are over at least...
14:59:16 <Tigger_> Sandforce?
14:59:39 <Abortion> It was a generation of SSD controllers used by a lot of manufacturers which was plagued with issues
14:59:48 <Tigger_> oh right
15:00:00 <Abortion> you're on the border I thnk
15:00:00 <Abortion> could be either way
15:00:00 <Abortion> if it reviewed well though, they probably knew if it was Sandforce
15:00:00 <Tigger_> my first SSD was Intel
15:00:00 <Abortion> That would be rock solid
15:00:00 <Abortion> oh hang on
15:00:01 <Tigger_> how long ago? I only started using SSDs two years ago
15:00:04 <Abortion> idk if there is a new generation, but I haven't heard of such a wide scale fuck up in more recent times
15:00:23 <Abortion> you're on the border I thnk
15:00:23 <Abortion> could be either way
15:00:34 <Abortion> if it reviewed well though, they probably knew if it was Sandforce
15:00:37 <Tigger_> my first SSD was Intel
15:00:49 <Abortion> That would be rock solid
15:00:57 <Abortion> oh hang on
15:01:00 <Tigger_> it has been, I only recently upgraded due to me outgrowing the 120Gb capacity
15:01:00 <Abortion> I think you might have hit on the Intel that used Sandforce, but Intel did extra firmware work and lots of testing, so its probably mitigated
15:01:00 <Tigger_> it was a 530 series model
15:01:18 <Tigger_> it has been, I only recently upgraded due to me outgrowing the 120Gb capacity
15:01:29 <Abortion> I think you might have hit on the Intel that used Sandforce, but Intel did extra firmware work and lots of testing, so its probably mitigated
15:02:00 <Tigger_> which had been around a fair while before I bought it
15:02:00 <Abortion> yep thats a sandforce
15:02:00 <Abortion> But yeah, Intel didn't rush to market
15:02:00 <Abortion> so they went through half decent Quality Control
15:02:03 <Tigger_> it was a 530 series model
15:02:25 <Tigger_> which had been around a fair while before I bought it
15:02:36 <Abortion> yep thats a sandforce
15:02:42 <Abortion> But yeah, Intel didn't rush to market
15:02:52 <Abortion> so they went through half decent Quality Control
15:04:00 <Tigger_> yes, it is the Sandforce controller
15:04:00 <Abortion> One of the few that did use Sandforce and didn't rush it
15:04:00 <Abortion> Sandforce was mostly used by bandwagonning manufacturers just looking to push out a product
15:04:11 <Tigger_> yes, it is the Sandforce controller
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15:04:34 <Abortion> One of the few that did use Sandforce and didn't rush it
15:04:53 <Abortion> Sandforce was mostly used by bandwagonning manufacturers just looking to push out a product
15:06:00 <Abortion> I think those days are over, SSDs are now well established
15:06:00 <Tigger_> I hope so
15:06:33 <Abortion> I think those days are over, SSDs are now well established
15:06:41 <Tigger_> I hope so
15:08:00 <Tigger_> apparently it did affect the Intel 520 range, but not so much the 530s (mine)
15:08:00 <Abortion> Intel is acutally a safe bet in anything. You pay more (always) but they put in the yards in making sure their stuff works
15:08:18 <Tigger_> apparently it did affect the Intel 520 range, but not so much the 530s (mine)
15:08:36 <Abortion> Intel is acutally a safe bet in anything. You pay more (always) but they put in the yards in making sure their stuff works
15:09:00 <Abortion> The only exception I can think of is in their wireless cards, in which Atheros beats them
15:09:00 <Tigger_> actually it was in 2011 that all this blew up, I built this machine in 2013, so the 530 series had probably long been fixed if there ever was an issue
15:09:00 <Abortion> yeah probably
15:09:00 <Tigger_> late 2013 too
15:09:14 <Abortion> The only exception I can think of is in their wireless cards, in which Atheros beats them
15:09:29 <Tigger_> actually it was in 2011 that all this blew up, I built this machine in 2013, so the 530 series had probably long been fixed if there ever was an issue
15:09:51 <Abortion> yeah probably
15:09:59 <Tigger_> late 2013 too
15:10:00 <Abortion> If you've been updating the firmware, it'd be fixed
15:10:00 <Abortion> I'm sure lots of the other ones never got a firmware update
15:10:00 <Tigger_> I did firmware updates of everything back when I first built it, I don't recall an SSD firmware update, but there were a few for the motherboard
15:10:08 <Abortion> If you've been updating the firmware, it'd be fixed
15:10:34 <Abortion> I'm sure lots of the other ones never got a firmware update
15:10:59 <Tigger_> I did firmware updates of everything back when I first built it, I don't recall an SSD firmware update, but there were a few for the motherboard
15:11:00 <Abortion> Intel motherboards were a good choice, but alas they don't bother with desktop motherboards anymore
15:11:00 <Tigger_> I haven't seen any Intel motherboards at the usual places
15:11:28 <Abortion> Intel motherboards were a good choice, but alas they don't bother with desktop motherboards anymore
15:12:00 <Abortion> I don't think there have been any for the last 3 processor generations
15:12:00 <Abortion> Oh apparently they did do a couple of Haswell ones
15:12:00 <Abortion> but yeah it was basically over
15:12:02 <Tigger_> I haven't seen any Intel motherboards at the usual places
15:12:22 <Abortion> I don't think there have been any for the last 3 processor generations
15:12:55 <Abortion> Oh apparently they did do a couple of Haswell ones
15:13:02 <Abortion> but yeah it was basically over
15:14:00 <Tigger_> like IBM selling off their consumer divisions, like Thinkpad laptops, their well regarded hard drives, etc.
15:14:46 <Tigger_> like IBM selling off their consumer divisions, like Thinkpad laptops, their well regarded hard drives, etc.
15:15:00 <Abortion> I'm tempted to say ASUS is a reliable motherboard manufacturer, but I've heard many people say otherwise. So in terms of Motherboards, reliability varies by both time and manufacturer
15:15:00 <Abortion> I still bought thinkpads anyway
15:15:00 <Abortion> lol like their deathstar hard drives?
15:15:00 <Abortion> But yes, they went to Hitachi
15:15:08 <Abortion> I'm tempted to say ASUS is a reliable motherboard manufacturer, but I've heard many people say otherwise. So in terms of Motherboards, reliability varies by both time and manufacturer
15:15:27 <Abortion> I still bought thinkpads anyway
15:15:43 <Abortion> lol like their deathstar hard drives?
15:15:53 <Abortion> But yes, they went to Hitachi
15:16:00 <Abortion> who, now under WD, are still well regarded
15:16:00 <Abortion> The Thinkpad hasn't survived quite so well imo. They do a good job, but I've still had niggled
15:16:00 <Abortion> *niggles
15:16:09 <Abortion> who, now under WD, are still well regarded
15:16:51 <Abortion> The Thinkpad hasn't survived quite so well imo. They do a good job, but I've still had niggled
15:16:54 <Abortion> *niggles
15:17:00 <Abortion> Still, better than buying a HP random which they pack with specs and pay no regard to design
15:17:00 <Abortion> Cheap laptops inevitably pack up
15:17:00 <Abortion> mostly due to heat issues
15:17:25 <Abortion> Still, better than buying a HP random which they pack with specs and pay no regard to design
15:17:45 <Abortion> Cheap laptops inevitably pack up
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15:17:54 <Abortion> mostly due to heat issues
15:18:00 <Abortion> Followed by crappy power supplies
15:18:33 <Abortion> Followed by crappy power supplies
15:21:00 <Tigger_> this motherboard is ASUS
15:21:39 <Tigger_> this motherboard is ASUS
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15:24:00 <Tigger_> my current laptop is ASUS, I bought it because it was an i7 with 8Gb ram marked way down to $800. the keyboard had to be replaced after two years, which I expected, the hard drive was eventually swapped for a hybrid. It has been alright
15:24:00 <Tigger_> my laptop before that was a Toshiba, which was really good for its time
15:24:15 <Tigger_> my current laptop is ASUS, I bought it because it was an i7 with 8Gb ram marked way down to $800. the keyboard had to be replaced after two years, which I expected, the hard drive was eventually swapped for a hybrid. It has been alright
15:24:37 <Tigger_> my laptop before that was a Toshiba, which was really good for its time
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18:02:49 <anotherirc3r> heya shugenja
18:11:13 <shugenja> hey :)
18:11:26 <shugenja> nice rain
18:11:38 <anotherirc3r> awwww.. no rain here
18:11:44 <anotherirc3r> i'd love it to rain
18:11:49 <shugenja> awww damn
18:12:39 <shugenja> i see a kinesiologist tomorrow
18:12:49 <shugenja> i've had 1 session so far
18:12:52 <anotherirc3r> what is that?
18:13:11 <shugenja> basically, a nervous system doctor
18:13:31 <shugenja> he advertises as a chiro but there's no manipulation
18:13:57 <shugenja> very soft, subtle and based on theory
18:15:06 <shugenja> anyway, the clic in my hip went away annd transferred to my knee, where it was originally after my injury
18:15:10 <shugenja> clic/click
18:16:02 <shugenja> no pain, tho
18:21:46 <anotherirc3r> oh, wow..
18:21:52 <anotherirc3r> that is a worry
18:22:23 <Tigger_> how do they transfer a click?
18:22:41 <shugenja> idk
18:23:01 <shugenja> but he showed me how he does it with an appointment prior to my treatment
18:24:35 <shugenja> here's his website with a short video on the basics: http://www.newtownfamilychiropractic.com.au/faqs/
18:24:36 <progressive> [ FAQ's — Newtown Family Chiropractic ] - www.newtownfamilychiropractic.com.au
18:24:57 <shugenja> derp
18:25:02 <shugenja> scratch that
18:25:30 <shugenja> here we go: http://www.newtownfamilychiropractic.com.au/your-first-visit/
18:25:31 <progressive> [ Your First Visit — Newtown Family Chiropractic ] - www.newtownfamilychiropractic.com.au
18:25:39 <shugenja> short video
18:35:41 <ajnin> helo all
18:35:44 <ajnin> hello all
18:36:29 <anotherirc3r> ajnin!
18:37:47 <Tigger_> shugenja, how did you hurt your knee?
18:39:00 <ajnin> anotherirc3r!!!
18:39:05 <ajnin> i fouind sand in my pockets
18:39:25 <ajnin> and then released I used these shorts as bathers the other week when I was at the beach
18:44:10 <anotherirc3r> lol
18:44:16 <anotherirc3r> that would have been interesting
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18:44:57 <Warren1984> hi all
18:45:08 <Warren1984> almost finished my tool holder
18:45:26 <Warren1984> good that I went back
18:45:32 <anotherirc3r> heya Warren :)
18:45:34 <Warren1984> needed quiet a bit of help those
18:45:37 <Warren1984> though
18:45:37 <anotherirc3r> glad to hear!
18:45:39 <Warren1984> hey Jen
18:45:56 <anotherirc3r> good on you :)
18:46:02 <Warren1984> it's like I tend to worry doing something new
18:46:15 <Warren1984> and I have these paranoid thoughts in my head
18:47:11 <Warren1984> I fear not liking ESTJs and they are materialistic and want to control me
18:47:17 <Warren1984> it's a weird sort of fear
18:47:27 <ajnin> anotherirc3r whats going on today
18:47:35 <ajnin> Warren1984 got a picture man ?
18:51:59 <anotherirc3r> not much ajnin. was just getting dinner ready
18:52:01 <anotherirc3r> yourself?
18:53:11 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/nikolai-lukashenko-is-belaruss-dictator-in-waiting/story-fnh81p7g-1227567802925
18:53:12 <progressive> [ Belarus: Is Nikolai Lukashenko the next president? ] - www.news.com.au
18:53:32 <Warren1984> picture of what ajnin
18:55:31 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/claims-plane-wreckage-found-in-the-philippines-could-be-mh370/story-fnizu68q-1227566602264
18:55:31 <progressive> [ MH370: Plane wreckage found in the Philippines, Sugbay Island, Tawi Tawi ] - www.news.com.au
18:58:32 <ajnin> dinner
18:58:44 <ajnin> cbf
18:59:00 <ajnin> i want pizza
18:59:01 <ajnin> lo
18:59:02 <ajnin> l
18:59:10 <Marttin> I would like to know if really 80% of belarussians voted for him
19:00:33 <Marttin> Sounds a bit over the top, but knowing that 70% of russians voted for communism to continue being its system on 1991, and watching the debacle during these years, 10% more doesnt sounds imposible
19:01:54 <anotherirc3r> lol
19:01:56 <anotherirc3r> get pizza then
19:04:57 Topic Is: Feminist mangina, anti-racist moaner, and known drug pig Sam De Brito dead: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3268939/Author-columnist-Sam-Brito-dead-North-Bondi-home-aged-46.html | Scientist warns men to be wary of gay yowies: https://youtu.be/7hMipbxQwOU?t=177
19:04:57 Set By: (Tigger_) on: Mon Oct 12 19:59:47 2015
19:05:21 <anotherirc3r> i had pizza last night
19:05:27 <anotherirc3r> meatlovers from my brother's pizza shop
19:05:30 <anotherirc3r> yay for free pizza
19:06:01 <Tigger_> do they slip meat into the vegetarian pizzas?
19:06:11 <anotherirc3r> haha no
19:06:26 <Tigger_> did you ask?
19:07:00 <anotherirc3r> why would i?!
19:07:08 <Tigger_> to uncover secrets
19:10:58 <anotherirc3r> hurry up dinner
19:11:00 <anotherirc3r> hungryyyyy
19:14:30 <Warren1984> I would make an omelette but got a roast coming up for dinner
19:14:40 <anotherirc3r> yum!
19:14:44 <anotherirc3r> much better dinner
19:14:52 <Warren1984> does your brother have a pizza shop
19:15:03 <anotherirc3r> well.. he's 2IC
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19:28:48 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: what did you learn today?
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19:41:55 <shugenja> Tigger_: pardon my delayed response;;; i came down from a high wall and my knee got hurt.
19:42:20 <Tigger_> were you skateboarding?
19:42:26 <shugenja> august of 2013
19:42:27 <shugenja> no
19:43:26 <Tigger_> I broke my knee in 2011, it's perfectly good now though
19:43:39 <shugenja> very good
19:45:05 <Warren1984> [16:28] <%Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: what did you learn today? <- no theory, we just learnt to make a toolbox
19:45:05 <Tigger_> just lucky
19:45:41 <Warren1984> did clip clop knock it back in place for you Tigger_
19:45:53 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: they teach woodworking in electonics class?
19:46:02 <Tigger_> just a lot of walking seemed to do the trick
19:46:04 <Warren1984> at first I thought oh fuck, what has this got to do with computers
19:46:23 <Warren1984> don't think they do woodworking
19:46:36 <Warren1984> the thing I fear about doing TAFE is being poor
19:46:44 <Warren1984> I mean at the moment I am fine
19:46:50 <Warren1984> because I live with my parents
19:47:02 <Warren1984> but I am doing something with an uncertain future
19:47:09 <Warren1984> will there be a job at the end?
19:47:40 <Warren1984> Is all of what I am learning i.e. a metal toolbox relevant to computer assembly and repair?
19:48:06 <Warren1984> I want to do the Cert IV however, is there a point?
19:48:33 <Warren1984> tomorrow we are going through our test results
19:48:40 <Warren1984> hopefully I passed
19:48:48 <Warren1984> going to finish off our toolboxes
19:49:01 <Warren1984> the welder was unique
19:49:10 <Warren1984> how it put them together
19:49:16 <Warren1984> with very little spark
19:50:43 <Tigger_> I told you at the start there's no work in computer repair
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19:51:19 <Mx_Trump> lololllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
19:51:27 <Tigger_> lol
19:52:34 <Warren1984> gives me a bit of confidence though, learning something new
19:52:52 <Warren1984> like Jen said "what do you have to lose by learning something new"
19:53:01 <Warren1984> or somewhere along those lines
19:53:29 <anotherirc3r> yes
19:53:30 <Tigger_> plenty
19:53:40 <anotherirc3r> lol do not
19:53:43 <Tigger_> you could lose a hand by learning how to make bombs in your garage
19:57:47 <Warren1984> bombs?
19:58:18 <Tigger_> yes, so don't learn how to make bombs
20:00:07 <Monsignor_Martinez> <Tigger_> I told you at the start there's no work in computer repair <--- There is also very little fault-finding and repair at the electronic component level
20:01:09 <Monsignor_Martinez> Computer technicians do not need oscilloscopes, logic analysers or soldering irons
20:01:17 <Monsignor_Martinez> the only tool they need is a screwdriver
20:02:00 <normal> msy
20:02:00 <normal> Tigger_
20:02:00 <normal> i gonna get one delivere
20:02:00 <normal> d
20:02:00 <normal> and 10 disks
20:02:42 <Monsignor_Martinez> if a PC fails to boot past BIOS, they don't carefully probe the voltages at every test point on the monitor, isolate the defective component and have it replaced
20:02:46 <Mx_Trump> who is Monsignor_Martinez?
20:03:00 <Tigger_> I remember when a blank bluray disc was $30 each
20:03:00 <Tigger_> not that long ago either
20:03:14 <Monsignor_Martinez> monitor=motherboard
20:04:00 <normal> well its 86$ for 1tb hdd
20:04:00 <normal> or 86$ for burner
20:05:00 <normal> 40$ gets as big as hdd
20:05:00 <normal> if the blurays work on ps3
20:05:00 <normal> im sold
20:06:00 <Tigger_> ah so you've got a jailbroken ps3, good idea
20:06:00 <normal> nah not that
20:06:00 <normal> just if i can do full blu ray rips
20:06:00 <normal> etc
20:07:00 <normal> and ps3 plays the bluray movies
20:07:00 <normal> copys
20:08:00 <Tigger_> oh I see
20:08:00 <Tigger_> yes, probably
20:08:00 <Tigger_> I'd look into a PS3 modchip though, to try and play copied games
20:08:00 <normal> i want it mainlly so can do blu ghost
20:09:00 <normal> of full installed windows
20:09:00 <normal> like 2 disks and wow and windows is installed
20:09:00 <normal> :)
20:09:17 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: this is what you can do with a Cert IV in electronics..... http://www.seek.com.au/job/29606742?pos=4&type=standard&engineConfig=control&tier=no_tier&whereid=1009
20:09:20 <progressive> [ Junior Door Service Technician Job in Perth - SEEK ] - www.seek.com.au
20:10:00 <normal> jen is sexiest woman on irc
20:10:00 <normal> opps
20:10:01 <Monsignor_Martinez> that wouldn't be a bad job for you
20:12:00 <normal> fried coffee is making me tired
20:12:33 <Monsignor_Martinez> Here is another good job: http://www.seek.com.au/job/29517483?pos=14&type=standout&engineConfig=control&tier=no_tier&whereid=1009
20:12:36 <progressive> [ Project Technician Job in Perth - SEEK ] - www.seek.com.au
20:13:00 <normal> and its exspresso nescafe
20:13:00 <normal> so stronger
20:13:00 <normal> lols
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20:13:11 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o doctor
20:13:31 <Monsignor_Martinez> hmmm actually no
20:13:42 <Monsignor_Martinez> they want someone with an Open Registered Cabling License
20:14:00 <normal> coffee puts me to sleep
20:14:00 <normal> weed wakes me up
20:14:30 <Monsignor_Martinez> and the only way to get one of those is to work for a company that is prepared to sponsor you for a cabling license
20:15:00 <normal> i had few drugs latelly
20:15:00 <normal> only one worked
20:15:00 <normal> was weed
20:15:00 <normal> radio host liked my song this morning
20:15:21 <Monsignor_Martinez> but companies like that will not hire you unless you already have a cabling license
20:15:30 <Monsignor_Martinez> my brain hurts
20:16:00 <normal> thats alright
20:16:00 <Tigger_> did he play it on the radio?
20:16:00 <normal> dont know
20:16:00 <normal> i tried add him as friend
20:16:00 <Tigger_> what station?
20:16:00 <normal> joy fm
20:17:56 <Tigger_> these days each component is so cheap it's not worth the wages to find out what's wrong with it, just replacing it is the most cost effective solution, and if the machine is old, then replacing the machine is the most cost effective solution
20:18:08 <anotherirc3r> no idea Brett
20:18:12 <anotherirc3r> Tigger: who is Monsignor_Martinez?
20:18:37 <Tigger_> no idea
20:18:44 <anotherirc3r> okay
20:18:52 <Tigger_> for all I know he is Monsignor_Martinez
20:19:07 <Mx_Trump> lol anotherirc3r antenna has gone up - fresh meat
20:19:57 <anotherirc3r> you asked before
20:20:00 <Tigger_> that's the fag station
20:20:00 <normal> lol
20:20:00 <Tigger_> you won't impress any girls by getting your music played there
20:20:00 <normal> my top friend on fb
20:20:00 <normal> is from kiss fm
20:20:00 <Tigger_> get your music on a straight station, with girl listeners
20:20:03 <anotherirc3r> are you after fresh meat?
20:20:10 <Monsignor_Martinez> anotherirc3r has Warren1984
20:20:16 <Tigger_> Mx_Trump is always after fresh meat
20:20:41 <anotherirc3r> shoosh Monsignor_Martinez
20:21:00 <normal> i still learning
20:21:00 <normal> i not superstar
20:21:00 <normal> i make bass
20:21:00 <normal> but its only outlet to realease tension
20:24:21 <Warren1984> just read your message Monsignor_Martinez
20:24:29 <Warren1984> I'll have a look now
20:24:37 <Tigger_> well time to go shopping, must buy icecream ingredients, bbl
20:25:34 <anotherirc3r> get me some icecream too please
20:27:01 <Warren1984> me too Tigger_
20:27:20 <Warren1984> we all want ice
20:27:23 <Warren1984> icecream
20:28:56 <anotherirc3r> magnum plz
20:30:40 <Warren1984> I had a few magnums lately
20:30:45 <Warren1984> didn't taste that good
20:31:09 <Warren1984> the chocolate was really rich
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20:35:17 <anotherirc3r> awww.. i want a magnum now
20:36:00 <normal> my grandad played 5 instruments i think trumpet trumbone string bass piano
20:36:00 <normal> and um
20:37:00 <normal> need weed to wake up
20:37:00 <normal> coffee puts me to sleep
20:48:41 <Warren1984> I like the white Magnum
20:49:47 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/mh17-report-2015-families-warned-of-its-distressing-nature-as-it-could-change-the-way-we-fly/story-fnizu68q-1227567931141
20:49:48 <progressive> [ MH17 report 2015: Dutch Safety Board to hand down final report ] - www.news.com.au
20:50:35 <Warren1984> finally we have a conclusion
20:53:31 <Marttin> I bet the rightist sector felt blessed after knowing they killed a bunch of AIDS fags
20:55:00 <doctor> coffee does that to me in the morning
20:55:00 <doctor> makes me more tired
20:55:00 <ajnin> weird
20:55:00 <ajnin> I dont drink it
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20:55:19 <Lish> Cheeseburger time kids
20:55:27 <Mx_Trump> pic
20:55:44 <Warren1984> Russia
20:55:54 <Warren1984> 1st take over part of Ukraine
20:56:00 <ajnin> so I cant say
20:56:00 <ajnin> but i have abused caffenee over hte years
20:56:00 <ajnin> fucking V red bull coke all that shit
20:56:00 <ajnin> i can drink it b4 bed and still go to sleep
20:56:00 <ajnin> but who knows if I am getting a lower quility of sleep then if I did not do it
20:56:00 <ajnin> but dont drink that anymore
20:56:00 <ajnin> so it does not matter
20:56:05 <Warren1984> 2nd shoot down a commercial airplane
20:56:24 <Warren1984> 3rd launch missles from ships over Iraq and Iran airspace
20:56:35 <Marttin> from the part of ukrania that didnt want to join rusia, novorusia
20:56:38 <Warren1984> 4th enter turkish airspace
20:56:48 <Warren1984> 5th help Assad
20:56:49 <Lish> http://imgur.com/ijV5YSj
20:56:50 <progressive> [ Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ] - imgur.com
20:57:13 <Warren1984> Russia is clearly calling for another cold war
20:57:25 <Marttin> Cold, in any case warm
20:57:28 <Warren1984> oh and deny the fact that they didn't shoot down MH17
20:58:36 <Warren1984> A reconstruction of the Boeing 777’s cockpit and front cabin area is understood to prove beyond doubt, a BUK-missile system caused the tragedy.
20:58:52 <Marttin> Im not sure if it was putin who gave the missiles to the separatist or those stealed them from him
20:59:17 <Marttin> Stole
20:59:24 <Warren1984> clearly the Russian's
20:59:49 <Warren1984> because why did they stop Ukraine officals to look at the sign
20:59:58 <Warren1984> all the Russians did was remove the BUK
21:00:00 <Tigger_> the most caffeine I've had is in chocolate and coca cola, and it puts me to sleep, my theory is that a small amount triggers a compensatory overreaction in the body
21:00:08 <Warren1984> to pretend it wasn't their fault
21:00:18 <Warren1984> that is the real reason behind it
21:00:58 <Warren1984> The ability to fly over conflict zones in commercial passenger jets is also expected to be strictly forbidden in the aftermath of MH17.
21:01:28 <Warren1984> even if it wasn't Russia
21:01:36 <Warren1984> who started the war?
21:01:38 <Warren1984> Russia
21:01:58 <Warren1984> and why did a commerical aircraft fly over a warzone
21:02:16 <Warren1984> Malaysia airlines might go bankrupt
21:02:17 <Marttin> I have a different hypothesis, ukraine new goverment gives a missile to the fascist fighters, and those throw down a civil plane to. Criminalize rusia and the new republics, so they can justify a new war
21:02:18 <Lish> How come sometimes you act normal warren
21:02:44 <Warren1984> I dunno Lish
21:02:50 <Lish> Ok continue
21:04:31 <Marttin> who started the war? Now referendums must have falled from international laws https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination
21:04:57 <Marttin> Crimea shall be whatever kiev-whasington says!
21:05:13 <Warren1984> Although the airspace was technically open to commercial passenger jets, concerns had previously been raised about safety and a number of airlines had taken the decision to avoid the area.
21:06:00 <ajnin> good night all
21:09:31 <Warren1984> Other airlines including Qantas had taken the decision to avoid the area, despite the additional fuel costs of an estimated $28,000 per trip.
21:12:56 <Warren1984> Imagine if the Russian's remotely controlled MH370 and shot it out of the sky with a submarine
21:13:04 <Warren1984> Or even the American's
21:13:21 <Warren1984> they could have used a sub at San Deiago
21:13:26 <Warren1984> however you spell it
21:13:44 <Marttin> Diego
21:13:52 <Marttin> a bit far isnt it? XD
21:14:55 <Warren1984> well the person involved may have had a good plan
21:15:01 <Marttin> Mx_trump, you arent in nerdhacks anymore?
21:15:19 <anotherirc3r> umm.. he is
21:15:29 <Warren1984> they wanted it to go 8 hours on into the Indian Ocean because the black boxes only record the last 2 hours
21:15:33 <anotherirc3r> http://fuckoffjesus.tumblr.com/page/2
21:15:33 <progressive> [ Fuck off, Jesus! ] - fuckoffjesus.tumblr.com
21:15:51 <Marttin> Ah, its +secret
21:16:31 <Warren1984> lol Jen
21:20:36 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vwNcNOTVzY
21:20:37 <progressive> [ Kanye West - Gold Digger ft. Jamie Foxx - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
21:21:24 <Mx_Trump> yes Marttin
21:26:12 <Lish> Preseason Betty?
21:26:56 Join: Glenn ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
21:37:00 <Lish> Losers
21:37:00 <erlich> Monsignor_Martinez: did i tell you i sold out and have gone the path of electrical engineering? i kinda miss programming now though
21:37:00 <erlich> electrical engineering stuff is very tedious, little room for creativity
21:37:09 <erlich> Monsignor_Martinez: did i tell you i sold out and have gone the path of electrical engineering? i kinda miss programming now though
21:37:28 <erlich> electrical engineering stuff is very tedious, little room for creativity
21:38:00 <Warren1984> woodwork is fun but the tools are expensive
21:38:08 <Warren1984> woodwork is fun but the tools are expensive
21:40:00 <wolframhart> Hard yakka
21:40:00 <wolframhart> Just got out of the office
21:44:00 <Mx_Trump> loolollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
21:44:00 <doctor> bomb the ground!
21:44:00 <Marttin> Ah, mongsiñor is ethanol
21:44:00 <Marttin> I actually though he was xm
21:44:09 <doctor> bomb the ground!
21:44:29 <Marttin> Ah, mongsiñor is ethanol
21:44:36 <Marttin> I actually though he was xm
21:45:00 <Tigger_> my laptop has finished its great work
21:45:00 <Tigger_> morning Mx_Trump
21:45:00 <Mx_Trump> morning boys and pigs
21:45:00 <wolframhart> What work
21:45:00 <anotherirc3r> it is??
21:45:00 <Marttin> And I was kind like, wtf is the gook doing talkingbto himself, he is ready to be locked
21:45:00 <anotherirc3r> i thought it was xm too
21:45:00 <erlich> ROFL
21:45:00 <Lish> I thought it was marttin
21:45:14 <anotherirc3r> it is??
21:45:28 <Marttin> And I was kind like, wtf is the gook doing talkingbto himself, he is ready to be locked
21:45:34 <anotherirc3r> i thought it was xm too
21:45:36 <erlich> ROFL
21:45:46 <Lish> I thought it was marttin
21:46:00 <Tigger_> ripping the 500 CDs
21:46:00 <breaker> *** Monsignor_Martinez has also used the nicknames: Ethanol DinduAteMyBaby Dindu
21:46:00 <Lish> Oh ethanol
21:46:00 <erlich> two clues Monsignor_Martinez was Ethanol: electronics, verbose, Monsignor is a reference to Catholicism (ok, that bit might be coincidental)
21:46:00 <Lish> What happened to this guy, he was gone for so long
21:46:00 <Lish> I missed his moody attitude
21:46:00 <Mx_Trump> Marttin he is practicing his english
21:46:09 <breaker> *** Monsignor_Martinez has also used the nicknames: Ethanol DinduAteMyBaby Dindu
21:46:21 <Lish> Oh ethanol
21:46:23 <erlich> two clues Monsignor_Martinez was Ethanol: electronics, verbose, Monsignor is a reference to Catholicism (ok, that bit might be coincidental)
21:46:32 <Lish> What happened to this guy, he was gone for so long
21:46:37 <Lish> I missed his moody attitude
21:46:37 <Mx_Trump> Marttin he is practicing his english
21:47:00 <Tigger_> it came to a mere 120Gb
21:47:00 <anotherirc3r> can't be Marttin.. he types too well
21:47:33 <anotherirc3r> can't be Marttin.. he types too well
21:48:00 <erlich> * ALERT *
21:48:00 <erlich> I HAVE CHEEZELS
21:48:00 <Lish> Omg
21:48:00 <erlich> and pistachio nuts
21:48:00 <Lish> You just reminded me I had them
21:48:00 <Lish> But I think my husband ate them
21:48:00 <erlich> time for a divorce
21:48:00 <Warren1984> hey doctor
21:48:10 <erlich> * ALERT *
21:48:14 <erlich> I HAVE CHEEZELS
21:48:25 <Lish> Omg
21:48:27 <erlich> and pistachio nuts
21:48:31 <Lish> You just reminded me I had them
21:48:36 <Lish> But I think my husband ate them
21:48:41 <erlich> time for a divorce
21:48:48 <Warren1984> hey doctor
21:49:00 <erlich> Lish: you need to keep tabs on all this. write notes about all the times he has wronged you. then when it's court time for divorce the courts will look at you more favourably
21:49:00 <Warren1984> do they have anything else other than 3 hr reports of the MH17
21:49:31 <erlich> Lish: you need to keep tabs on all this. write notes about all the times he has wronged you. then when it's court time for divorce the courts will look at you more favourably
21:49:31 <Warren1984> do they have anything else other than 3 hr reports of the MH17
21:50:00 <Tigger_> didn't there used to be 300Gb iPods?
21:50:00 <wolframhart> Thats a lot
21:50:00 <erlich> "I bought him a 5k computer and in gratitude he ate all my cheezels!!!"
21:50:00 <erlich> ive got stevia coke here, there's a lot of sugar in it still
21:50:12 <erlich> "I bought him a 5k computer and in gratitude he ate all my cheezels!!!"
21:50:55 <erlich> ive got stevia coke here, there's a lot of sugar in it still
21:51:00 <wolframhart> Id. Rather dl
21:51:00 <Tigger_> ah no, 160Gb
21:51:00 <wolframhart> Unless stuff is so rare
21:51:00 <Tigger_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod_Classic
21:51:00 <progressive> [WIKIPEDIA] IPod Classic | "The iPod Classic (stylized and marketed as iPod classic and formerly just iPod) was a portable media player created and formerly marketed by Apple Inc. The final generation had the largest storage size of any mobile Apple device, with 160 GB of storage.There were six generations of the iPod classic..."
21:51:00 <wolframhart> Wonder how big it was
21:53:00 <Tigger_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ipodclassic80gb.jpg looks small enough
21:53:00 <progressive> KeyError: u'extract' (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/willie/modules/wikipedia.py", line 89, in mw_snippet)
21:53:00 <Tigger_> of course you can get 128Gb SD cards now
21:53:00 <Tigger_> 256Gb actually
21:54:00 <Tigger_> wrong again, 512Gb
21:54:00 <Lish> That's a good idea xm
21:54:00 <Lish> Stevia Coke, yuck
21:54:00 <Lish> I never tried it but it doesn't sound good lol
21:54:41 <Lish> That's a good idea xm
21:54:46 <Lish> Stevia Coke, yuck
21:54:54 <Lish> I never tried it but it doesn't sound good lol
21:55:00 <erlich> you might as well go full coke
21:55:00 <Tigger_> back
21:55:18 <erlich> you might as well go full coke
21:56:00 <Tigger_> I now have everything to make chocolate icecream
21:56:00 <anotherirc3r> wb
21:56:00 <doctor> hey waz
21:56:05 <Tigger_> back
21:56:49 <Tigger_> I now have everything to make chocolate icecream
21:56:55 <anotherirc3r> wb
21:56:57 <doctor> hey waz
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21:57:00 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o xm
22:03:00 <Warren1984> wb xm
22:03:00 <Warren1984> http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/oct/13/mh17-crash-report-ukraine-live-updates
22:03:00 <progressive> [ MH17 crash report: victims' relatives told Buk missile hit plane - live updates | World news | The Guardian ] - www.theguardian.com
22:03:00 <Warren1984> starts at 19:15
22:03:00 <xm> tah waz
22:03:00 <Tigger_> has there been any more about that plane found in the Phillipines jungle?
22:03:23 <Warren1984> wb xm
22:03:26 <Warren1984> http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/oct/13/mh17-crash-report-ukraine-live-updates
22:03:26 <progressive> [ MH17 crash report: victims' relatives told Buk missile hit plane - live updates | World news | The Guardian ] - www.theguardian.com
22:03:39 <Warren1984> starts at 19:15
22:03:48 <xm> tah waz
22:03:55 <Tigger_> has there been any more about that plane found in the Phillipines jungle?
22:04:00 <normal> ls #1
22:04:00 <Lish> Zzzz
22:04:00 <normal> bash #1 kernel restart
22:04:00 <Warren1984> nuh that was disproved
22:04:21 <Warren1984> nuh that was disproved
22:05:00 <normal> lolz
22:05:00 <Lish> I had 3 cans of Coke today
22:05:00 <Tigger_> hello Lish
22:05:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/claims-plane-wreckage-found-in-the-philippines-could-be-mh370/story-fnizu68q-1227566602264
22:05:00 <progressive> [ MH370: Plane wreckage found in the Philippines, Sugbay Island, Tawi Tawi ] - www.news.com.au
22:05:00 <Tigger_> real coke or coke zero?
22:05:00 <Mx_Trump> Warren1984 what happened with the philipines wreckage?
22:05:42 <Mx_Trump> Warren1984 what happened with the philipines wreckage?
22:06:00 <Lish> Real
22:06:00 <Tigger_> I had four cans of coke zero
22:06:00 <Lish> I'm heals thirsty
22:06:00 <Tigger_> I probably won't have any for about a week
22:06:00 <Lish> Heaps
22:06:00 <Warren1984> Russia attacking the ISIS in Syria is a distraction from the MH17
22:06:01 Nick: xm is now known as xm_
22:06:52 <Warren1984> Russia attacking the ISIS in Syria is a distraction from the MH17
22:07:00 <Tigger_> real coke tastes amazing on a hot day, especially with some chips
22:07:00 <Tigger_> “The residents on the island hunt birds for food and build their houses on the water. They don’t watch television and as such they have no knowledge of the outside world,” Mr Omar told Astro Awani.
22:07:00 <Tigger_> was there a plane there at all?
22:07:09 <Tigger_> was there a plane there at all?
22:08:00 <Tigger_> the mystery deepens
22:08:00 <Tigger_> anyway, I got my new breadmaker today, I've been reading the instruction book
22:08:00 <Lish> Yeah I dunno why I'm so thirsty
22:08:00 <Lish> Oh cool going to make bread tomorrow
22:09:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ are you going to discharge capacitors on people at the salad bar in sizzle
22:09:00 <Warren1984> sizzler
22:09:00 <Tigger_> yeah I'll have to go out and purchase some bread mix
22:09:00 <Tigger_> it's a pretty cool, heavy duty looking machine
22:09:00 <Mx_Trump> Warren1984 why isnt jen going to your birthday?
22:10:00 <Warren1984> because she hates me
22:10:00 <Warren1984> no
22:10:00 <Warren1984> but they tried to get the west to focus on that
22:10:00 <Warren1984> and forget the MH17
22:10:00 <Tigger_> I wonder if smut is an example of a zero profit condition: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-13/playboy-to-stop-publishing-nude-photos/6851352
22:10:00 <progressive> [ Playboy to stop publishing 'passé' nude photos - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
22:10:23 <Warren1984> no
22:10:35 <Warren1984> but they tried to get the west to focus on that
22:10:40 <Warren1984> and forget the MH17
22:10:46 <Tigger_> I wonder if smut is an example of a zero profit condition: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-13/playboy-to-stop-publishing-nude-photos/6851352
22:10:46 <progressive> [ Playboy to stop publishing 'passé' nude photos - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ] - www.abc.net.au
22:11:00 <Mx_Trump> why does she hate you?
22:11:00 <Warren1984> 4 mins until the report starts
22:11:00 <Warren1984> it's live ATM
22:11:18 <Warren1984> 4 mins until the report starts
22:11:22 <Warren1984> it's live ATM
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22:17:00 <Warren1984> it's started but says futher coverage expected
22:17:18 <Warren1984> it's started but says futher coverage expected
22:23:00 <Tigger_> Authorities in the Philippines have ruled out suggestions that plane wreckage reportedly found on an island in the south of the country is of missing Malaysia Airlines plane MH370.
22:23:00 <Tigger_> A resident, Jamil Omar, had reported to police on the weekend that his teenage nephew had found aircraft wreckage, with the Malaysian flag painted on its side, crashed on Sugbay Island in Tawi Tawi.
22:23:00 <Tigger_> ​Mr Omar's nephew, who was hunting for birds with his friends at the time, also reported that inside the wreckage there were human bones, including a skeleton in the pilot's chair with the seatbelt still fastened, The Straits Times reported.
22:23:00 <Tigger_> Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/plane-wreck-in-philippines-containing-skeleton-not-mh370-authorities-say-20151012-gk7j71.html#ixzz3oRipYVbQ
22:23:00 <Tigger_> Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook
22:23:00 <progressive> [ Plane wreck in Philippines 'containing skeleton' not MH370, authorities say ] - www.smh.com.au
22:23:00 <Tigger_> probably just a light aircraft
22:23:15 <Tigger_> Authorities in the Philippines have ruled out suggestions that plane wreckage reportedly found on an island in the south of the country is of missing Malaysia Airlines plane MH370.
22:23:15 <Tigger_> A resident, Jamil Omar, had reported to police on the weekend that his teenage nephew had found aircraft wreckage, with the Malaysian flag painted on its side, crashed on Sugbay Island in Tawi Tawi.
22:23:15 <Tigger_> ​Mr Omar's nephew, who was hunting for birds with his friends at the time, also reported that inside the wreckage there were human bones, including a skeleton in the pilot's chair with the seatbelt still fastened, The Straits Times reported.
22:23:16 <Tigger_> Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/plane-wreck-in-philippines-containing-skeleton-not-mh370-authorities-say-20151012-gk7j71.html#ixzz3oRipYVbQ
22:23:21 <Tigger_> Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook
22:23:23 <progressive> [ Plane wreck in Philippines 'containing skeleton' not MH370, authorities say ] - www.smh.com.au
22:23:39 <Tigger_> probably just a light aircraft
22:25:00 <Tigger_> Chinese men now smoke one-third of all the world's cigarettes, and a third of all young men in China are doomed to eventually die from the habit, scientists in China and Britain have concluded.
22:25:00 <Tigger_> Their study, published last week in The Lancet, estimated that two-thirds of all males in China smoked, more were still taking up the habit and more were starting as teenagers, which adds risk.
22:25:00 <Tigger_> Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/chinese-men-smoking-onethird-of-all-the-worlds-cigarettes-20151012-gk7i1l.html#ixzz3oRjIPKWJ
22:25:00 <Tigger_> Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook
22:25:00 <progressive> [ Chinese men smoking one-third of all the world's cigarettes ] - www.smh.com.au
22:25:00 <Tigger_> this is how we'll defeat them
22:25:09 <Tigger_> Chinese men now smoke one-third of all the world's cigarettes, and a third of all young men in China are doomed to eventually die from the habit, scientists in China and Britain have concluded.
22:25:09 <Tigger_> Their study, published last week in The Lancet, estimated that two-thirds of all males in China smoked, more were still taking up the habit and more were starting as teenagers, which adds risk.
22:25:09 <Tigger_> Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/chinese-men-smoking-onethird-of-all-the-worlds-cigarettes-20151012-gk7i1l.html#ixzz3oRjIPKWJ
22:25:09 <Tigger_> Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook
22:25:13 <progressive> [ Chinese men smoking one-third of all the world's cigarettes ] - www.smh.com.au
22:25:28 <Tigger_> this is how we'll defeat them
22:29:00 <Warren1984> not sure Mx_Trump
22:30:00 <Warren1984> why do we need to defeat the Chinese
22:30:00 <Tigger_> why not?
22:30:44 <Warren1984> why do we need to defeat the Chinese
22:31:00 <xm_> im not surprised it's huge but 1/3rd of ALL and just for men is pretty significant
22:31:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHcnO_zVf_Q
22:31:00 <progressive> [ LIVE: Dutch Safety Board to announce final report on MH17 - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
22:31:01 <Tigger_> why not?
22:31:29 <xm_> im not surprised it's huge but 1/3rd of ALL and just for men is pretty significant
22:31:39 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHcnO_zVf_Q
22:31:40 <progressive> [ LIVE: Dutch Safety Board to announce final report on MH17 - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
22:32:00 <Warren1984> xm to make more females in China
22:32:00 <Tigger_> smoking is highly correlated with mental illness, maybe they're all mad
22:32:07 <Warren1984> xm to make more females in China
22:32:43 <Tigger_> smoking is highly correlated with mental illness, maybe they're all mad
22:34:00 <ajnin> anotherirc3r hold the fucking phone!!!
22:34:00 <ajnin> anotherirc3r your brother has a pizza shop
22:34:00 <anotherirc3r> he is 2IC
22:34:00 <anotherirc3r> of the shop
22:34:00 <Tigger_> what is 2IC?
22:34:27 <ajnin> anotherirc3r hold the fucking phone!!!
22:34:34 <ajnin> anotherirc3r your brother has a pizza shop
22:34:43 <anotherirc3r> he is 2IC
22:34:44 <anotherirc3r> of the shop
22:35:00 <ajnin> 2nd in charge
22:35:00 <ajnin> anotherirc3r does he like it
22:35:00 <anotherirc3r> yup
22:35:00 <anotherirc3r> he definitely does
22:35:00 <Warren1984> I want Pizza from Jen's bro
22:35:00 <ajnin> i would love to be a pizza maker... it would be harder than it looks
22:35:00 <ajnin> summer pizza making would be a cunt
22:35:00 <ajnin> i would not want to be a driver
22:35:00 <ajnin> being a driver is good when your younger
22:35:03 <Tigger_> what is 2IC?
22:35:08 <ajnin> 2nd in charge
22:35:15 <ajnin> anotherirc3r does he like it
22:35:24 <anotherirc3r> yup
22:35:27 <anotherirc3r> he definitely does
22:35:28 <Warren1984> I want Pizza from Jen's bro
22:35:36 <ajnin> i would love to be a pizza maker... it would be harder than it looks
22:35:46 <ajnin> summer pizza making would be a cunt
22:35:50 <ajnin> i would not want to be a driver
22:36:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is 2nd place not good enough when comparing your pizzas to Jen's brothers
22:36:00 <anotherirc3r> i used to do that!
22:36:00 <anotherirc3r> got called 'sweetie' and 'love' all the time
22:36:00 <anotherirc3r> from the old guys
22:36:00 <anotherirc3r> do i look like a little girl?!
22:36:00 <ajnin> anotherirc3r in the VP ?
22:36:00 <anotherirc3r> YES!
22:36:00 <ajnin> hahaa RESPECT
22:36:00 <Tigger_> I'm sure my pizzas are better
22:36:00 <ajnin> i would be scared to do it if I was a girl
22:36:00 <xm_> <LOLLLLLLLLLLLL> Losers
22:36:00 <xm_> <xm_> skips why arent you in #pd
22:36:00 <xm_> <xm_> we miss you
22:36:00 <xm_> <LOLLLLLLLLLLLL> Because im too superior for that channel
22:36:00 <ajnin> my mate did it for like 10 years
22:36:00 <ajnin> and the fucking stories
22:36:02 <ajnin> being a driver is good when your younger
22:36:07 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is 2nd place not good enough when comparing your pizzas to Jen's brothers
22:36:09 <anotherirc3r> i used to do that!
22:36:19 <anotherirc3r> got called 'sweetie' and 'love' all the time
22:36:22 <anotherirc3r> from the old guys
22:36:26 <anotherirc3r> do i look like a little girl?!
22:36:29 <ajnin> anotherirc3r in the VP ?
22:36:32 <anotherirc3r> YES!
22:36:46 <ajnin> hahaa RESPECT
22:36:54 <Tigger_> I'm sure my pizzas are better
22:36:55 <ajnin> i would be scared to do it if I was a girl
22:36:59 <xm_> <LOLLLLLLLLLLLL> Losers
22:36:59 <xm_> <xm_> skips why arent you in #pd
22:36:59 <xm_> <xm_> we miss you
22:36:59 <xm_> <LOLLLLLLLLLLLL> Because im too superior for that channel
22:37:00 <xm_> ^phantom^ is the manager of a pizza/cafe too
22:37:00 <ajnin> the only good thing was he knew all the bong heads lol
22:37:00 <ajnin> and could always score
22:37:00 <ajnin> back in the day
22:37:00 <ajnin> but then he quit the job
22:37:01 <ajnin> my mate did it for like 10 years
22:37:05 <ajnin> and the fucking stories
22:37:20 <xm_> ^phantom^ is the manager of a pizza/cafe too
22:37:37 <ajnin> the only good thing was he knew all the bong heads lol
22:37:43 <ajnin> and could always score
22:37:48 <ajnin> back in the day
22:38:00 <ajnin> but then he quit the job
22:38:00 <ajnin> and now he works at the air port
22:38:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
22:38:00 <anotherirc3r> i only did it when my brother actually owned a pizza store
22:38:00 <anotherirc3r> he didn't have anyone
22:38:00 <anotherirc3r> so i offred
22:38:00 <anotherirc3r> offered*
22:38:00 <xm_> i constantly get thoughts about working an ordinary job. the paycut might be worth it
22:38:00 <ajnin> when I was 18 I needed a job
22:38:00 <ajnin> there was a drivers wanted at my pizza shop
22:38:00 <ajnin> so I gave him my details
22:38:00 <ajnin> no shit
22:38:09 <ajnin> and now he works at the air port
22:38:13 <anotherirc3r> lol
22:38:22 <anotherirc3r> i only did it when my brother actually owned a pizza store
22:38:25 <anotherirc3r> he didn't have anyone
22:38:28 <anotherirc3r> so i offred
22:38:30 <anotherirc3r> offered*
22:38:40 <xm_> i constantly get thoughts about working an ordinary job. the paycut might be worth it
22:38:43 <ajnin> when I was 18 I needed a job
22:38:56 <ajnin> there was a drivers wanted at my pizza shop
22:39:00 <ajnin> so I gave him my details
22:39:00 <Tigger_> what do they get paid?
22:39:00 <ajnin> about 9 months later he calls and asks if I can start that night
22:39:00 <ajnin> LOL
22:39:00 <Tigger_> that sure is sudden
22:39:00 <ajnin> i already had a job by then loading trucks
22:39:00 <ajnin> so I told him no
22:39:00 <xm_> lol
22:39:00 <ajnin> Tigger_ I am guessing his driver told him to fuck off or something
22:39:00 <xm_> ajnin, you should have said yes but never turn up
22:39:00 <Warren1984> I think I worked out how the combination of extroverted intuition and introverted sensing work... it's about comparing yourself with others, however since it's an introverted form of sensing it's a subjective reasoning about competition. Not everyone will agree of who or what is 1st place.
22:39:00 <ajnin> also.. loading trucks is a sweet job if your young, storng and like staing up late
22:39:03 <ajnin> no shit
22:39:09 <Tigger_> what do they get paid?
22:39:12 <ajnin> about 9 months later he calls and asks if I can start that night
22:39:14 <ajnin> LOL
22:39:19 <Tigger_> that sure is sudden
22:39:22 <ajnin> i already had a job by then loading trucks
22:39:29 <ajnin> so I told him no
22:39:38 <xm_> lol
22:39:40 <ajnin> Tigger_ I am guessing his driver told him to fuck off or something
22:39:50 <xm_> ajnin, you should have said yes but never turn up
22:39:51 <Warren1984> I think I worked out how the combination of extroverted intuition and introverted sensing work... it's about comparing yourself with others, however since it's an introverted form of sensing it's a subjective reasoning about competition. Not everyone will agree of who or what is 1st place.
22:39:56 <ajnin> also.. loading trucks is a sweet job if your young, storng and like staing up late
22:40:00 <ajnin> xm_ HAHAHAHA
22:40:00 <xm_> how pressured are jobs in factories?
22:40:00 <ajnin> xm_ be like... yea.. ill be there in 10....
22:40:00 <ajnin> i worked in fatories
22:40:00 <Tigger_> I imagine there'd be a lot of pressure "You work 20 hours a day, or back to Malaysia with you"
22:40:17 <ajnin> xm_ HAHAHAHA
22:40:27 <xm_> how pressured are jobs in factories?
22:40:27 <ajnin> xm_ be like... yea.. ill be there in 10....
22:41:00 <ajnin> i worked in fatories
22:41:00 <xm_> a good job will be in a large warehouse where you can take your time
22:41:00 <ajnin> I had lots of shit jobs b4 I got my good jobs
22:41:00 <xm_> Tigger_, have you seen those reports on 711?
22:41:00 <xm_> all those indians are getting ripped off
22:41:00 <ajnin> poor ccunts
22:41:00 <Tigger_> yeah I read a bit about that
22:41:00 <Tigger_> in no way surprising
22:41:02 <Tigger_> I imagine there'd be a lot of pressure "You work 20 hours a day, or back to Malaysia with you"
22:41:08 <xm_> a good job will be in a large warehouse where you can take your time
22:41:10 <ajnin> I had lots of shit jobs b4 I got my good jobs
22:41:17 <xm_> Tigger_, have you seen those reports on 711?
22:41:23 <xm_> all those indians are getting ripped off
22:41:27 <ajnin> poor ccunts
22:41:31 <Tigger_> yeah I read a bit about that
22:41:37 <Tigger_> in no way surprising
22:42:00 <xm_> i wouldnt even do that to an indian
22:42:15 <xm_> i wouldnt even do that to an indian
22:46:00 <Lish> My phone and iPad won't connect to App Store and I want to read a book
22:46:00 <Lish> How annoying
22:46:00 <Tigger_> what book?
22:46:00 <Lish> I dunno
22:46:00 <Lish> Just wanted to browse
22:47:00 <Tigger_> just browse torrents under the books section
22:47:00 <Lish> On my iPad?
22:48:00 <Lish> Don't think so
22:48:00 <Tigger_> why not?
22:48:00 <Tigger_> there you go: https://kat.cr/books/
22:48:00 <ajnin> yea
22:48:00 <ajnin> its the true scum bags
22:48:57 <ajnin> yea
22:49:00 <Mx_Trump> lol
22:49:00 <Mx_Trump> Lish is a loser
22:49:00 <Lish> I'm cool
22:49:00 <Lish> Going to watch ted talk instead
22:49:00 <Warren1984> tomorrow we will find out the truth about who shot down the MH17
22:49:00 <ajnin> anyways
22:49:00 <ajnin> good night
22:49:00 <ajnin> WAY WAY past my bed time
22:49:00 <xm_> i might sleep early soon too
22:49:00 <xm_> even though it's not even 8 yet
22:49:00 <Tigger_> night ajnin
22:49:04 <ajnin> its the true scum bags
22:49:08 <ajnin> anyways
22:49:10 <ajnin> good night
22:49:15 <ajnin> WAY WAY past my bed time
22:49:30 <xm_> i might sleep early soon too
22:49:35 <xm_> even though it's not even 8 yet
22:49:44 <Tigger_> night ajnin
22:50:00 <Warren1984> It would be a BUK missle supplied by the Russian's
22:50:00 <Warren1984> can tell you that already
22:51:00 <Mx_Trump> it might have been the buk missile that was aimed at tarryns stinker and missed its target
22:55:00 <Tigger_> it was Tarryn who hijacked MH370
22:55:00 <xm> her job as a flight hostess is a cover?
22:55:00 <Tigger_> you could point 180 degrees in the wrong direction and still hit Tarryn's stinker
22:56:00 <Mx_Trump> i think we can rule out putin firing at tarryn stinker as no one would miss a target that large
23:03:06 Join: ^pHANTOM^ ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
23:07:59 Join: SoupNazi ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
23:08:00 <SoupNazi> why be a faggot and ban me that long
23:08:45 * SoupNazi slaps Tigger_ around a bit with a large trout
23:09:05 <SoupNazi> why be a faggot and ban me that long
23:10:00 <Tigger_> you answered your own question
23:10:00 <SoupNazi> cant understand you
23:10:16 <Tigger_> you answered your own question
23:10:34 <SoupNazi> cant understand you
23:11:00 <Tigger_> Woolworths sells Steam gift cards now
23:11:00 <SoupNazi> `info
23:11:00 <SoupNazi> Tigger_ mate theres no need to be a homosexual
23:11:47 <SoupNazi> `info
23:11:54 <SoupNazi> Tigger_ mate theres no need to be a homosexual
23:12:00 <Tigger_> have you tried gay sex?
23:12:16 <Tigger_> have you tried gay sex?
23:15:00 <shugenja> esuterik? is that you?
23:15:00 <Tigger_> no it's not esuterik
23:15:00 <SoupNazi> wtf
23:15:00 <SoupNazi> isnt that themayo
23:15:00 <SoupNazi> im SoupNazi
23:15:00 <SoupNazi> im norma
23:15:26 <shugenja> esuterik? is that you?
23:15:41 <Tigger_> no it's not esuterik
23:15:44 <SoupNazi> wtf
23:15:49 <SoupNazi> isnt that themayo
23:15:56 <SoupNazi> im SoupNazi
23:15:57 <SoupNazi> im norma
23:16:00 <SoupNazi> but im sick of people banning for no reason on here
23:16:00 <shugenja> nice to meet you, Norma.
23:16:00 <SoupNazi> banning was cool 20 yrs ago
23:16:00 <SoupNazi> normal
23:16:00 <SoupNazi> lol
23:16:00 <Tigger_> SoupNazi, if you're not gay, then you don't belong here
23:16:07 <SoupNazi> but im sick of people banning for no reason on here
23:16:20 <shugenja> nice to meet you, Norma.
23:16:20 <SoupNazi> banning was cool 20 yrs ago
23:16:27 <SoupNazi> normal
23:16:29 <SoupNazi> lol
23:16:58 <Tigger_> SoupNazi, if you're not gay, then you don't belong here
23:17:00 <SoupNazi> Tigger_ I told you to stop being a homosexual
23:17:00 <anotherirc3r> should i leave then?
23:17:00 <Tigger_> SoupNazi, I asked you have you tried gay sex?
23:17:40 <SoupNazi> Tigger_ I told you to stop being a homosexual
23:17:44 <anotherirc3r> should i leave then?
23:17:58 <Tigger_> SoupNazi, I asked you have you tried gay sex?
23:20:00 <SoupNazi> Tigger_ ive bashed gays
23:20:00 <SoupNazi> does that count
23:20:00 <Tigger_> because they wouldn't have sex with you?
23:20:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
23:20:24 <SoupNazi> Tigger_ ive bashed gays
23:20:26 <SoupNazi> does that count
23:20:42 <Tigger_> because they wouldn't have sex with you?
23:20:55 <anotherirc3r> lol
23:21:00 <Mx_Trump> exposed
23:21:00 <shugenja> haha
23:21:38 <Mx_Trump> exposed
23:21:41 <shugenja> haha
23:23:00 <SoupNazi> Tigger_ is proud of his homosexuality
23:23:43 <SoupNazi> Tigger_ is proud of his homosexuality
23:24:00 <Tigger_> you should be proud too
23:24:07 <Tigger_> you should be proud too
23:28:00 <Tigger_> SoupNazi, it is time that you announced to your parents that you want to be barebacked by your black boyfriend, all five of them. do not live in shame any longer
23:28:09 Join: SurlyDuff ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
23:28:36 <Tigger_> SoupNazi, it is time that you announced to your parents that you want to be barebacked by your black boyfriend, all five of them. do not live in shame any longer
23:29:00 <Mx_Trump> SoupNazi is very close with david mendlesohn
23:29:29 <Mx_Trump> SoupNazi is very close with david mendlesohn
23:29:54 Quit: Monsignor_Martinez ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
23:30:00 <Tigger_> SoupNazi has to pay for everything on dates though
23:30:00 <SoupNazi> Tigger_ mate hillarious
23:30:00 <SoupNazi> keep it coming
23:30:22 <Tigger_> SoupNazi has to pay for everything on dates though
23:30:25 <SoupNazi> Tigger_ mate hillarious
23:30:28 <SoupNazi> keep it coming
23:31:00 <SoupNazi> LOLLLLLLLLLLLL is a loser
23:31:21 <SoupNazi> LOLLLLLLLLLLLL is a loser
23:33:00 <Warren1984> is a BUK missle heat seeking?
23:33:00 <Warren1984> doesn't sound like it, if it hit the cockpit
23:33:00 <Mx_Trump> yes Warren1984
23:33:09 <Warren1984> is a BUK missle heat seeking?
23:33:32 <Warren1984> doesn't sound like it, if it hit the cockpit
23:33:52 <Mx_Trump> yes Warren1984
23:34:00 <Mx_Trump> the mystery isnt how it hit mh17, the mystery is how it missed tarryns stinker
23:34:00 <Tigger_> SoupNazi, why not become a stand up comedian specialising in observational humour: <SoupNazi> Have you ever noticed how you're always all out of lube just when the guy you just met five minutes ago wants to fist you. So you go ahead anyway and he gets stuck so then you're in the emergency room at 3 AM.
23:34:19 <Mx_Trump> the mystery isnt how it hit mh17, the mystery is how it missed tarryns stinker
23:34:54 <Tigger_> SoupNazi, why not become a stand up comedian specialising in observational humour: <SoupNazi> Have you ever noticed how you're always all out of lube just when the guy you just met five minutes ago wants to fist you. So you go ahead anyway and he gets stuck so then you're in the emergency room at 3 AM.
23:35:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ made me icecream yet CUNT?
23:35:00 <Warren1984> and Jen
23:35:00 <Warren1984> and everyone else
23:35:00 <Warren1984> XM is really hungry
23:35:00 <SoupNazi> Tigger_ you sound like you could be great mates with Matthew
23:35:24 <Warren1984> Tigger_ made me icecream yet CUNT?
23:35:28 <Warren1984> and Jen
23:35:31 <Warren1984> and everyone else
23:35:39 <Warren1984> XM is really hungry
23:35:45 <SoupNazi> Tigger_ you sound like you could be great mates with Matthew
23:36:00 <SoupNazi> or STI 'traders'
23:36:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I started making a red lentil dahl to go in a bread bowl, icecream after
23:36:00 <Tigger_> SoupNazi, did they reject you?
23:36:07 <SoupNazi> or STI 'traders'
23:36:17 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I started making a red lentil dahl to go in a bread bowl, icecream after
23:36:44 <Tigger_> SoupNazi, did they reject you?
23:38:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TdWUTHC49U
23:38:00 <progressive> [ Dutch Safety Board MH17 final report - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
23:38:00 <Tigger_> what was their conclusion?
23:38:07 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TdWUTHC49U
23:38:08 <progressive> [ Dutch Safety Board MH17 final report - YouTube ] - www.youtube.com
23:38:29 <Tigger_> what was their conclusion?
23:41:00 <Warren1984> well they already stated it was a Russian BUK missle
23:41:00 <Warren1984> just trying to get more detail
23:41:49 <Warren1984> well they already stated it was a Russian BUK missle
23:41:57 <Warren1984> just trying to get more detail
23:42:00 <Mx_Trump> Warren1984 what meds u on?
23:42:47 <Mx_Trump> Warren1984 what meds u on?
23:45:00 <Warren1984> same
23:45:59 <Warren1984> same
23:46:00 <xm_> hmm now im reminded to take my meds
23:46:17 <xm_> hmm now im reminded to take my meds
23:49:00 <SoupNazi> so everyone here is a homosexual on meds
23:49:47 <SoupNazi> so everyone here is a homosexual on meds
23:50:00 <Tigger_> yes, HIV antiviral medication
23:50:17 <Tigger_> yes, HIV antiviral medication
23:51:00 <anotherirc3r> hmmm.. how do i change the hibernation time on my laptop?
23:51:00 <anotherirc3r> i am trying to upload something
23:51:08 <anotherirc3r> hmmm.. how do i change the hibernation time on my laptop?
23:51:12 <anotherirc3r> i am trying to upload something
23:52:00 <Warren1984> xm I forgot to remind you to take yours
23:52:35 <Warren1984> xm I forgot to remind you to take yours
23:53:00 <Tigger_> anotherirc3r, Control Panel -> System and Security -> Power Options
23:53:00 <Warren1984> anotherirc3r how can I be more aware of people and time?
23:53:00 <Warren1984> like I talk to Tigger_ and seem to ignore others
23:53:00 <Tigger_> and then click Change Plan Settings
23:53:27 <Tigger_> anotherirc3r, Control Panel -> System and Security -> Power Options
23:53:37 <Warren1984> anotherirc3r how can I be more aware of people and time?
23:53:50 <Warren1984> like I talk to Tigger_ and seem to ignore others
23:53:52 <Tigger_> and then click Change Plan Settings
23:54:00 <Mx_Trump> anotherirc3r what are you changing your hibernation to?
23:54:00 <Tigger_> Kramer just said "I've discovered what I'm missing in my life, routine and structure."
23:54:00 <Warren1984> 1 reason why I find it hard to focus is there are too many people to talk to and be aware of
23:54:00 <Warren1984> in a group situation only 1 person talks at a time
23:54:19 <Mx_Trump> anotherirc3r what are you changing your hibernation to?
23:54:26 <Tigger_> Kramer just said "I've discovered what I'm missing in my life, routine and structure."
23:54:52 <Warren1984> 1 reason why I find it hard to focus is there are too many people to talk to and be aware of
23:55:00 <Warren1984> and they raise their hand to speak
23:55:00 <Warren1984> and you can focus on that 1 person
23:55:00 <Warren1984> and then another
23:55:00 <Warren1984> but on here it seems too hard
23:55:06 <Warren1984> in a group situation only 1 person talks at a time
23:55:15 <Warren1984> and they raise their hand to speak
23:55:23 <Warren1984> and you can focus on that 1 person
23:55:30 <Warren1984> and then another
23:55:36 <Warren1984> but on here it seems too hard
23:56:00 <Warren1984> I guess all parties are to blame
23:56:00 <Warren1984> Ukraine, Russia, Malaysia airlines
23:56:00 <anotherirc3r> thanks Tigger :)
23:56:09 <Warren1984> I guess all parties are to blame
23:56:24 <Warren1984> Ukraine, Russia, Malaysia airlines
23:56:33 <anotherirc3r> thanks Tigger :)
23:57:00 <Warren1984> I turned that off on my computer
23:57:00 <Warren1984> hibernation mode
23:57:00 <Warren1984> but when I go to bed I just push the screen closed
23:57:00 <Warren1984> keeps everything open but disconnects from the internet
23:57:21 <Warren1984> I turned that off on my computer
23:57:24 <Warren1984> hibernation mode
23:57:38 <Warren1984> but when I go to bed I just push the screen closed
23:57:50 <Warren1984> keeps everything open but disconnects from the internet
23:59:00 <anotherirc3r> okay that should hopefully work
23:59:08 <anotherirc3r> okay that should hopefully work