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00:06:43 <xm> i didnt notice shugenja was here
00:06:49 <xm> he hasnt been in here for at least 3 years
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00:09:29 <Warren1984> hi all
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00:10:00 <xm> ey waz
00:10:00 <Warren1984> hey xm
00:10:00 <xm> what did you get up to today?
00:10:00 <Warren1984> study
00:10:00 <xm> how many days a week
00:10:00 <Warren1984> cooking at swanview
00:10:33 <xm> ey waz
00:10:39 <Warren1984> hey xm
00:10:40 <xm> what did you get up to today?
00:10:45 <Warren1984> study
00:10:55 <xm> how many days a week
00:10:56 <Warren1984> cooking at swanview
00:11:00 <Warren1984> chores
00:11:00 <Warren1984> just 1 day a week
00:11:00 <Warren1984> I study everyday
00:11:00 <Warren1984> study is hard for me because of my short term memory
00:11:00 <xm> it's only 1 day a week?
00:11:03 <Warren1984> chores
00:11:08 <Warren1984> just 1 day a week
00:11:15 <Warren1984> I study everyday
00:11:42 <Warren1984> study is hard for me because of my short term memory
00:11:58 <xm> it's only 1 day a week?
00:12:00 <xm> i thought you were doing min 3
00:12:00 <Warren1984> I tape record all the lectures then listen to them again
00:12:09 <xm> i thought you were doing min 3
00:12:54 <Warren1984> I tape record all the lectures then listen to them again
00:13:00 <xm> you should be confident by now?
00:13:00 <Warren1984> nuh it's 2 days a week
00:13:00 <Warren1984> and each day is 7.5 hours long
00:13:00 <Warren1984> not to mention I get home and have to listen to it all again
00:13:00 <Warren1984> to re-inforce my memory
00:13:06 <xm> you should be confident by now?
00:13:09 <Warren1984> nuh it's 2 days a week
00:13:23 <Warren1984> and each day is 7.5 hours long
00:13:43 <Warren1984> not to mention I get home and have to listen to it all again
00:13:55 <Warren1984> to re-inforce my memory
00:14:00 <Warren1984> then I need to listen to it the next day
00:14:04 <Warren1984> then I need to listen to it the next day
00:16:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/the-verdict-recap-sydney-terror-attack-mental-health-anti-abortion-campaigner-troy-newman/story-fn948wjf-1227562598810
00:16:44 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/the-verdict-recap-sydney-terror-attack-mental-health-anti-abortion-campaigner-troy-newman/story-fn948wjf-1227562598810
00:17:00 <xm> most courses spread it over 3-4 days
00:17:00 <Warren1984> “It started in 1980s with unskilled Muslim migration to Western Sydney, large parts of suburbs have welfare dependency problems and it pains me to say in Western Sydney there is a Muslim problem. After Man Monis who came from Western Sydney, after the shooting last week, we have to recognise this is just not radical Islamic ideology, it is also people with too much time on their
00:17:00 <Warren1984> hands, too many opportunities to sit around in groups, bitching about western culture, bitching about the American President, bitching about the Australian Prime Minister, and getting up to no good. So, the best thing the Federal Government can do is get these people out to work. Break down the welfare dependency in Western Sydney and in many ways it is not just a question of stopping
00:17:00 <Warren1984> radicalisation, how do we promote normality, normalisation in Western Sydney so people are making a positive contribution to society.”
00:17:00 <xm> i would hate to study for 7.5 hour days
00:17:00 <xm> but there are some advantages. like freeing up the rest of the week
00:17:00 <Warren1984> yeah then listen to it again on the voice recorder
00:17:00 <xm> it is annoying to come in just for a 2 hour class
00:17:00 <xm> then go home
00:17:00 <Warren1984> you need to gel the info while fresh
00:17:00 <xm> which tafe are you at again?
00:17:03 <xm> most courses spread it over 3-4 days
00:17:04 <Warren1984> “It started in 1980s with unskilled Muslim migration to Western Sydney, large parts of suburbs have welfare dependency problems and it pains me to say in Western Sydney there is a Muslim problem. After Man Monis who came from Western Sydney, after the shooting last week, we have to recognise this is just not radical Islamic ideology, it is also people with too much time on their
00:17:04 <Warren1984> hands, too many opportunities to sit around in groups, bitching about western culture, bitching about the American President, bitching about the Australian Prime Minister, and getting up to no good. So, the best thing the Federal Government can do is get these people out to work. Break down the welfare dependency in Western Sydney and in many ways it is not just a question of stopping
00:17:04 <Warren1984> radicalisation, how do we promote normality, normalisation in Western Sydney so people are making a positive contribution to society.”
00:17:14 <xm> i would hate to study for 7.5 hour days
00:17:28 <xm> but there are some advantages. like freeing up the rest of the week
00:17:32 <Warren1984> yeah then listen to it again on the voice recorder
00:17:37 <xm> it is annoying to come in just for a 2 hour class
00:17:40 <xm> then go home
00:17:47 <Warren1984> you need to gel the info while fresh
00:17:57 <xm> which tafe are you at again?
00:18:00 <xm> midland or east perth?
00:18:00 <xm> midland?
00:18:00 <Warren1984> a 4 hour morning class should be enough
00:18:00 <Warren1984> midland
00:18:00 <Warren1984> then going to thornlie next year most likely
00:18:02 <xm> midland or east perth?
00:18:04 <xm> midland?
00:18:07 <Warren1984> a 4 hour morning class should be enough
00:18:12 <Warren1984> midland
00:18:32 <Warren1984> then going to thornlie next year most likely
00:21:00 <Warren1984> because a 4 hour morning class could be listened to after class then you would still have time to do your house chores
00:21:05 <Warren1984> because a 4 hour morning class could be listened to after class then you would still have time to do your house chores
00:40:00 <Warren1984> it's a 2 year course
00:40:00 <Warren1984> I mean 1 year
00:40:48 <Warren1984> it's a 2 year course
00:40:54 <Warren1984> I mean 1 year
00:41:00 <Warren1984> but I part time is 2 years
00:41:00 <Warren1984> when I master the electronics of this then it will be easy for the computer tech course
00:41:12 <Warren1984> but I part time is 2 years
00:41:46 <Warren1984> when I master the electronics of this then it will be easy for the computer tech course
00:42:00 <Warren1984> because part of being a computer tech is knowing dc/ac theory
00:42:00 <Warren1984> you need to find short curcuits etc
00:42:00 <Warren1984> If you have knowledge of electronics, you can fix things for cheap
00:42:18 <Warren1984> because part of being a computer tech is knowing dc/ac theory
00:42:34 <Warren1984> you need to find short curcuits etc
00:42:57 <Warren1984> If you have knowledge of electronics, you can fix things for cheap
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00:48:00 <Warren1984> hey doctor
00:48:19 <Warren1984> hey doctor
00:48:38 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o DoC
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01:03:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI1PS_kgmqk
01:03:47 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI1PS_kgmqk
01:09:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS8KQvh35cQ
01:09:10 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS8KQvh35cQ
01:24:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOym-AXeVQk
01:24:30 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOym-AXeVQk
01:43:00 <xm> nite all
01:43:20 <xm> nite all
01:44:01 Quit: xm ([email protected]) Quit: 31/10/2015. Most important day of the year.
02:12:00 <doctor> hey waz
02:12:33 <doctor> hey waz
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05:53:00 <simple> glenn argghhh
05:53:00 <simple> i lost my usb stick with all my music on it
05:54:00 <simple> no more drugs or grog for me
05:54:00 <simple> if i can lose that
05:54:00 <simple> lucky its all on my hdd
05:55:00 <simple> all my ascii
05:55:00 <simple> techno songs
05:55:00 <simple> phew
05:55:00 <simple> oh ok
05:55:00 <simple> when then
05:56:00 <simple> i dont hold grudges
05:56:00 <simple> be adults
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09:11:00 <chillin> morning
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09:11:35 <chillin> morning
09:14:00 <chillin> hi Glenn
09:14:04 <Glenn> Hi!
09:14:43 <chillin> hi Glenn
09:16:00 <chillin> need coffee cbf walking to shops
09:16:31 <chillin> need coffee cbf walking to shops
09:17:00 <chillin> manic depression sucks
09:17:39 <chillin> manic depression sucks
09:19:00 <chillin> i dont want be high or drunk nemore
09:19:31 <chillin> i dont want be high or drunk nemore
09:20:00 <chillin> but i need company still
09:20:00 <chillin> its fucked
09:20:00 <chillin> situation
09:20:21 <chillin> but i need company still
09:20:31 <chillin> its fucked
09:20:35 <chillin> situation
09:22:00 <chillin> i gave up for 2 months 5 months ago
09:22:42 <chillin> i gave up for 2 months 5 months ago
09:32:00 <Tigger_> chris, are the only 'friends' you have drug dealers?
09:32:55 <Tigger_> chris, are the only 'friends' you have drug dealers?
09:36:00 <Marttin> Its a shame you are from melb
09:36:39 <Marttin> Its a shame you are from melb
09:37:00 <Marttin> The friendly people in pd lies in perth
09:37:00 <Marttin> By friendly I mean real life meetings
09:37:12 <Marttin> The friendly people in pd lies in perth
09:37:25 <Marttin> By friendly I mean real life meetings
09:42:00 <chillin> only friend i sorta have not on drugs is jen
09:42:19 <chillin> only friend i sorta have not on drugs is jen
09:48:00 <Tigger_> time to get rid of all your friends
09:48:55 <Tigger_> time to get rid of all your friends
09:50:00 <chillin> yep
09:50:00 <chillin> they end up driving me crazy then i take it out of ppl i love
09:50:00 <chillin> on
09:50:30 <chillin> yep
09:50:49 <chillin> they end up driving me crazy then i take it out of ppl i love
09:50:56 <chillin> on
09:51:00 <chillin> cuppa tea is nice
09:51:15 <chillin> cuppa tea is nice
09:53:00 <chillin> got months tabaccoo
09:53:00 <chillin> all i need is more food
09:53:30 <chillin> got months tabaccoo
09:53:37 <chillin> all i need is more food
09:56:00 <Tigger_> throw the tobacco away
09:56:08 <Tigger_> throw the tobacco away
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10:50:00 <Tigger_> good morning Abortion
10:50:00 <Abortion> Hello Tigger_
10:50:00 <Abortion> I am playing eugenics master in Fallout Shelter
10:50:05 <Tigger_> good morning Abortion
10:50:15 <Abortion> Hello Tigger_
10:50:58 <Abortion> I am playing eugenics master in Fallout Shelter
10:51:00 <Tigger_> what does the eugenics master do?
10:51:00 <Abortion> Its not a specified thing, I'm just trying to get particular appearance traits
10:51:11 <Tigger_> what does the eugenics master do?
10:51:54 <Abortion> Its not a specified thing, I'm just trying to get particular appearance traits
10:52:00 <Tigger_> how is this achieved? selective breeding?
10:53:00 <Tigger_> how is this achieved? selective breeding?
10:53:00 <Abortion> yes
10:53:00 <Abortion> It's not a particularly complicated system, but I've exhausted most other gameplay avenues
10:53:00 <Tigger_> so you have awhile to wait to see if you get what you wanted?
10:53:00 <Abortion> about 5 or 6 hours per generation
10:53:00 <Tigger_> and do traits skip generations?
10:53:04 <Abortion> yes
10:53:35 <Abortion> It's not a particularly complicated system, but I've exhausted most other gameplay avenues
10:53:35 <Tigger_> so you have awhile to wait to see if you get what you wanted?
10:53:50 <Abortion> about 5 or 6 hours per generation
10:53:55 <Tigger_> and do traits skip generations?
10:54:00 <Abortion> I don't know
10:54:00 <Abortion> probably not
10:54:00 <Abortion> its a pretty simple modle
10:54:00 <Abortion> *model
10:54:00 <Tigger_> yes, I suppose it would be too much to ask a game to have dominant and recessive genes, or gene expression, and so on
10:54:00 <Abortion> Indeed
10:54:00 <Abortion> given that breeding is not the primary objective of the game
10:54:02 <Abortion> I don't know
10:54:04 <Abortion> probably not
10:54:08 <Abortion> its a pretty simple modle
10:54:11 <Abortion> *model
10:54:38 <Tigger_> yes, I suppose it would be too much to ask a game to have dominant and recessive genes, or gene expression, and so on
10:54:46 <Abortion> Indeed
10:54:59 <Abortion> given that breeding is not the primary objective of the game
10:55:00 <Abortion> Though it has got me thinking of making one, except making games is just another sink of time.
10:55:00 <Tigger_> have you made any games so far?
10:55:40 <Abortion> Though it has got me thinking of making one, except making games is just another sink of time.
10:55:52 <Tigger_> have you made any games so far?
10:56:00 <Abortion> Nothing beyond very trivial games
10:56:00 <Tigger_> what did you code them in?
10:56:00 <Abortion> Java
10:56:00 <Tigger_> not much call for Java games these days
10:56:00 <Abortion> If I did one now, I'd more likely use C#
10:56:02 <Abortion> Nothing beyond very trivial games
10:56:12 <Tigger_> what did you code them in?
10:56:17 <Abortion> Java
10:56:49 <Tigger_> not much call for Java games these days
10:56:50 <Abortion> If I did one now, I'd more likely use C#
10:57:00 <Abortion> well, Java is the basis of Android apps
10:57:00 <Abortion> but C# is just better
10:57:00 <Abortion> In terms of programming patterns
10:57:00 <Abortion> probably on par in terms of performance
10:57:00 <Tigger_> yes, though MS scuttled their XNA framework, which was very nice for C#
10:57:14 <Abortion> well, Java is the basis of Android apps
10:57:23 <Abortion> but C# is just better
10:57:37 <Abortion> In terms of programming patterns
10:57:45 <Abortion> probably on par in terms of performance
10:57:48 <Tigger_> yes, though MS scuttled their XNA framework, which was very nice for C#
10:58:00 <Tigger_> most Android games are done using middleware like Unity 3D though, rather than directly coding in Java
10:58:00 <Abortion> Not suprising I guess
10:58:00 <Tigger_> so they can compile to iOS, and whatever else
10:58:20 <Tigger_> most Android games are done using middleware like Unity 3D though, rather than directly coding in Java
10:58:31 <Abortion> Not suprising I guess
10:58:44 <Tigger_> so they can compile to iOS, and whatever else
10:59:00 <Tigger_> every day I tell myself to get back to coding my game, but motivation is lacking
10:59:00 <Abortion> Well, Blonde hair is finally becoming common enough to be able to use. Yeah Inbreeding is not a thing in this game either, you simply cannot reproduce with parents or siblings, but I think thats as far as it goes
10:59:30 <Tigger_> every day I tell myself to get back to coding my game, but motivation is lacking
10:59:43 <Abortion> Well, Blonde hair is finally becoming common enough to be able to use. Yeah Inbreeding is not a thing in this game either, you simply cannot reproduce with parents or siblings, but I think thats as far as it goes
11:00:00 <Tigger_> so you can't be a true amoral monster
11:00:43 <Tigger_> so you can't be a true amoral monster
11:01:00 <Abortion> haha
11:01:00 <Abortion> well inbreeding would lead to deformities anyway
11:01:00 <Abortion> defeating the purpose of Eugenics
11:01:00 <Tigger_> it would, but you could also reinforce particular traits if those traits were all you cared about
11:01:11 <Abortion> haha
11:01:19 <Abortion> well inbreeding would lead to deformities anyway
11:01:38 <Abortion> defeating the purpose of Eugenics
11:01:58 <Tigger_> it would, but you could also reinforce particular traits if those traits were all you cared about
11:02:00 <Abortion> Guess so
11:02:18 <Abortion> Guess so
11:03:00 <Tigger_> such as eusocial animals like termites and bees share 75% of each others genetics, so they're quite willing to die for the colony, since that's where their genetic investment lays
11:03:33 <Tigger_> such as eusocial animals like termites and bees share 75% of each others genetics, so they're quite willing to die for the colony, since that's where their genetic investment lays
11:04:00 <Tigger_> if you had eusocial breeding of humans you could have fearless (albeit deformed) warriors
11:04:16 <Tigger_> if you had eusocial breeding of humans you could have fearless (albeit deformed) warriors
11:05:00 <Abortion> Traits I'd be more interested in are Intelligence, Longevity, Athletisicm and surviability
11:05:00 <Tigger_> but would they be controllable?
11:05:00 <Tigger_> I'm thinking more real life than a game I suppose
11:05:00 <Abortion> I was too
11:05:18 <Abortion> Traits I'd be more interested in are Intelligence, Longevity, Athletisicm and surviability
11:05:33 <Tigger_> but would they be controllable?
11:05:48 <Tigger_> I'm thinking more real life than a game I suppose
11:05:54 <Abortion> I was too
11:06:00 <Abortion> I wouldn't invest too much in control.
11:06:00 <Abortion> Society already does a lot of that
11:06:00 <Abortion> its a bit chaotic, but its not entirely formless
11:06:03 <Abortion> I wouldn't invest too much in control.
11:06:23 <Abortion> Society already does a lot of that
11:06:43 <Abortion> its a bit chaotic, but its not entirely formless
11:07:00 <Abortion> I guess cooperation traits are something to keep track of though
11:07:00 <Abortion> So reducing Aggression would probably help
11:07:00 <Tigger_> one thing that has crossed my mind lately is that traditionally rural people are more non-conformist than city people (by individualism lost to weight of numbers), but social media like facebook brings the conformism to the country
11:07:08 <Abortion> I guess cooperation traits are something to keep track of though
11:07:20 <Abortion> So reducing Aggression would probably help
11:07:56 <Tigger_> one thing that has crossed my mind lately is that traditionally rural people are more non-conformist than city people (by individualism lost to weight of numbers), but social media like facebook brings the conformism to the country
11:08:00 <Abortion> mmm
11:08:00 <Abortion> Yes not everything is genetics
11:08:00 <Abortion> Environmental factors can play on genes
11:08:20 <Abortion> mmm
11:08:33 <Abortion> Yes not everything is genetics
11:08:52 <Abortion> Environmental factors can play on genes
11:09:00 <Abortion> I don't mean gene expression though
11:09:00 <Tigger_> like Siamese cat markings, the colder their environment when young the darker their points
11:09:07 <Abortion> I don't mean gene expression though
11:09:36 <Tigger_> like Siamese cat markings, the colder their environment when young the darker their points
11:11:00 <Abortion> I wonder how many couples have come out of Mensa
11:11:40 <Abortion> I wonder how many couples have come out of Mensa
11:12:00 <Abortion> (and correspondingly children)
11:12:08 <Abortion> (and correspondingly children)
11:14:00 <Tigger_> I don't know, I've never been to a meeting, and most 130+ IQ people don't seem to have a lot of interest in being members, so their membership is a fairly small subset of the 130+, so whatever trait that drives them to join would be even more dominant than their IQ
11:14:00 <Tigger_> maybe Mensa is for extroverted 130+, and the introverts don't like a crowd
11:14:00 <Abortion> Which begs the question, what has Mensa achieved? That might not be a bad thing
11:14:04 <Tigger_> I don't know, I've never been to a meeting, and most 130+ IQ people don't seem to have a lot of interest in being members, so their membership is a fairly small subset of the 130+, so whatever trait that drives them to join would be even more dominant than their IQ
11:14:55 <Tigger_> maybe Mensa is for extroverted 130+, and the introverts don't like a crowd
11:14:59 <Abortion> Which begs the question, what has Mensa achieved? That might not be a bad thing
11:16:00 <Abortion> If they have achieved nothing of interest, then yes, it won't result in anything particularly good
11:16:00 <Tigger_> I expect nothing much, spectacular achievement does require a high IQ, but a lot of other small things that are hard to define, but essential
11:16:16 <Abortion> If they have achieved nothing of interest, then yes, it won't result in anything particularly good
11:16:33 <Tigger_> I expect nothing much, spectacular achievement does require a high IQ, but a lot of other small things that are hard to define, but essential
11:17:00 <Tigger_> I have only met one person with a (claimed) 160 IQ, but having spent some time with him my estimation was more in the 120-130 range
11:17:00 <Abortion> I refuse to state or claim IQ
11:17:00 <Tigger_> why?
11:17:36 <Tigger_> I have only met one person with a (claimed) 160 IQ, but having spent some time with him my estimation was more in the 120-130 range
11:17:52 <Abortion> I refuse to state or claim IQ
11:17:57 <Tigger_> why?
11:18:00 <Abortion> Essentially for the reason you just said
11:18:00 <Abortion> People lie, and having the number means little for interactions
11:18:00 <Abortion> Either you work well, are interesting, or are not
11:18:10 <Abortion> Essentially for the reason you just said
11:18:22 <Abortion> People lie, and having the number means little for interactions
11:18:31 <Abortion> Either you work well, are interesting, or are not
11:19:00 <Abortion> In a social context anyway
11:19:00 <Abortion> If it were for an activity where such merit had relevance, sure
11:19:00 <Tigger_> I played a game of Scrabble with him, each turn I flung the letters on the board in seconds, he literally took 10 minutes each turn, he was trying very hard, and in the end he beat me by 3 points in a game I didn't care about
11:19:14 <Abortion> In a social context anyway
11:19:30 <Abortion> If it were for an activity where such merit had relevance, sure
11:19:41 <Tigger_> I played a game of Scrabble with him, each turn I flung the letters on the board in seconds, he literally took 10 minutes each turn, he was trying very hard, and in the end he beat me by 3 points in a game I didn't care about
11:20:00 <Tigger_> so taking Scrabble as a very rough proxy for an IQ test, I just couldn't see 160 there
11:20:00 <Abortion> What that did just point out is that he pins his identity on his intelligence
11:20:28 <Tigger_> so taking Scrabble as a very rough proxy for an IQ test, I just couldn't see 160 there
11:20:49 <Abortion> What that did just point out is that he pins his identity on his intelligence
11:21:00 <Tigger_> yes, that was my strong feeling
11:21:00 <Abortion> Which is probably not a good social aspect either
11:21:00 <Abortion> Probably some performance anxiety too
11:21:00 <Tigger_> all that too
11:21:04 <Tigger_> yes, that was my strong feeling
11:21:14 <Abortion> Which is probably not a good social aspect either
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11:21:27 <Abortion> Probably some performance anxiety too
11:21:49 <Tigger_> all that too
11:22:00 <Tigger_> I wondered if he used his claimed IQ as an excuse for his lack of social skills
11:22:00 <Abortion> To himself, probably
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11:22:23 <Tigger_> I wondered if he used his claimed IQ as an excuse for his lack of social skills
11:22:44 <Abortion> To himself, probably
11:23:00 <Abortion> But if you actually want to get something done, you can't really excuse things, even to yourself
11:23:11 <Abortion> But if you actually want to get something done, you can't really excuse things, even to yourself
11:24:00 <Abortion> Having hanged around in a channel intended for ASD, its something that has occured to me. It's all well and good having a dx, but you'll still have issues regardless of the dx (for people who are trying to weigh up whether getting a dx is worth it)
11:24:00 <Tigger_> not getting things done might be due to lack of intelligence, but more often it's a lack of motivation, easily distracted, lack of work ethic, etc.
11:24:00 <Tigger_> dx?
11:24:00 <Abortion> diagnosis
11:24:00 <Tigger_> oh right
11:24:24 <Abortion> Having hanged around in a channel intended for ASD, its something that has occured to me. It's all well and good having a dx, but you'll still have issues regardless of the dx (for people who are trying to weigh up whether getting a dx is worth it)
11:24:34 <Tigger_> not getting things done might be due to lack of intelligence, but more often it's a lack of motivation, easily distracted, lack of work ethic, etc.
11:24:48 <Tigger_> dx?
11:24:51 <Abortion> diagnosis
11:24:55 <Tigger_> oh right
11:25:00 <Abortion> easily distracted and lack of work ethic are both factors of discipline, in my view
11:25:00 <Abortion> Something my mum tried to teach me, but I foolishly resisted
11:25:40 <Abortion> easily distracted and lack of work ethic are both factors of discipline, in my view
11:26:00 <Abortion> Something my mum tried to teach me, but I foolishly resisted
11:26:00 <Tigger_> self-discipline is a difficult thing when so many things are interesting
11:26:22 <Tigger_> self-discipline is a difficult thing when so many things are interesting
11:27:00 <Abortion> I guess if we brought Myers-Briggs into it, Perceptive vs Judgemental
11:27:00 <Abortion> J for actually choosing to stick to something
11:27:00 <Tigger_> I've never understood MBTI, in spite of warren carrying on about it for years
11:27:21 <Abortion> I guess if we brought Myers-Briggs into it, Perceptive vs Judgemental
11:27:32 <Abortion> J for actually choosing to stick to something
11:27:57 <Tigger_> I've never understood MBTI, in spite of warren carrying on about it for years
11:28:00 <Abortion> its a pretty rough system
11:28:00 <Tigger_> whereas I do get Five Factor
11:28:00 <Abortion> Haven't heard of that one
11:28:13 <Abortion> its a pretty rough system
11:28:24 <Tigger_> whereas I do get Five Factor
11:28:41 <Abortion> Haven't heard of that one
11:29:00 <Tigger_> MBTI is favoured by business, Five Factor more by academia
11:29:00 <Abortion> if its favoured by business, you know it's flawed :P
11:29:00 <Abortion> Business loves shortcuts
11:29:00 <Abortion> particularly HR
11:29:07 <Tigger_> MBTI is favoured by business, Five Factor more by academia
11:29:32 <Abortion> if its favoured by business, you know it's flawed :P
11:29:34 <Abortion> Business loves shortcuts
11:29:48 <Abortion> particularly HR
11:30:00 <Tigger_> the non-replicability of MBTI made me lose interest at the starting gate, 60% of people who re-do the test are a different type to the first time they did it
11:30:00 <Abortion> sounds about right
11:30:46 <Tigger_> the non-replicability of MBTI made me lose interest at the starting gate, 60% of people who re-do the test are a different type to the first time they did it
11:31:02 <Abortion> sounds about right
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11:33:00 <Tigger_> I'm also a little wary of psychology in general, it's the only intellectual subject that interests the lower classes, and the way they apply it tends to be to try and control you "I know the reason why you prefer Dr Pepper over Pepsi is because you were molested as a child."
11:33:00 <Abortion> I am wary of it more due to the fact that hypothesis testing is so hard, and thus basically never done
11:33:14 <Tigger_> I'm also a little wary of psychology in general, it's the only intellectual subject that interests the lower classes, and the way they apply it tends to be to try and control you "I know the reason why you prefer Dr Pepper over Pepsi is because you were molested as a child."
11:33:51 <Abortion> I am wary of it more due to the fact that hypothesis testing is so hard, and thus basically never done
11:34:00 <Abortion> Neuroscience is really what is hot at the moment
11:34:00 <Tigger_> not something I know much about at this point
11:34:17 <Abortion> Neuroscience is really what is hot at the moment
11:34:40 <Tigger_> not something I know much about at this point
11:35:00 <Abortion> As best I can tell, it involved brain imaging, probes etc
11:35:00 <Abortion> things you can actually quantify and measure without the filtering of peoples responses
11:35:00 <Tigger_> oh yes, I've run across a few articles about that sort of thing
11:35:03 <Abortion> As best I can tell, it involved brain imaging, probes etc
11:35:16 <Abortion> things you can actually quantify and measure without the filtering of peoples responses
11:35:58 <Tigger_> oh yes, I've run across a few articles about that sort of thing
11:36:00 <Abortion> It is certainly more rigorous than Psych
11:36:00 <Abortion> Given how low the bar is, thats not suprising
11:36:21 <Abortion> It is certainly more rigorous than Psych
11:36:50 <Abortion> Given how low the bar is, thats not suprising
11:37:00 <Abortion> on par with Economics really
11:37:00 <Abortion> seems like in Economics and Psych, it is more exceptions than the rule
11:37:06 <Abortion> on par with Economics really
11:37:47 <Abortion> seems like in Economics and Psych, it is more exceptions than the rule
11:38:00 <Tigger_> economics should not be considered a science, empiricism can't ever work with economics as there are too many factors in any economic system to isolate to prove a theorem. economics works well if considered as a set of a priory axioms though
11:38:17 <Tigger_> economics should not be considered a science, empiricism can't ever work with economics as there are too many factors in any economic system to isolate to prove a theorem. economics works well if considered as a set of a priory axioms though
11:39:00 <Abortion> I don't, I also don't consider Psychology a science
11:39:26 <Abortion> I don't, I also don't consider Psychology a science
11:40:00 <Tigger_> some things in psychology are fairly replicable, such as IQ testing, most of the rest is intuition, either enlightened intuition, or poor intuition
11:40:38 <Tigger_> some things in psychology are fairly replicable, such as IQ testing, most of the rest is intuition, either enlightened intuition, or poor intuition
11:44:00 <Tigger_> 'We have to recognise this is not just about radical ideology... It's people with too much time on their hands,' he said.
11:44:00 <Tigger_> 'There are too many opportunities to sit around in groups, bitching about western culture, bitching about the American President, bitching about the Australian Prime Minister, and getting up to no good.'
11:44:00 <Tigger_> Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3264760/Q-bogans-Twitter-slams-Karl-Stefanovic-s-new-panel-Verdict-petition-Mark-Latham-air-started-20-minutes.html#ixzz3o1jz8cvY
11:44:00 <Tigger_> Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
11:44:00 <Abortion> ew clipboard hijacking
11:44:41 <Tigger_> 'We have to recognise this is not just about radical ideology... It's people with too much time on their hands,' he said.
11:44:41 <Tigger_> 'There are too many opportunities to sit around in groups, bitching about western culture, bitching about the American President, bitching about the Australian Prime Minister, and getting up to no good.'
11:44:41 <Tigger_> Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3264760/Q-bogans-Twitter-slams-Karl-Stefanovic-s-new-panel-Verdict-petition-Mark-Latham-air-started-20-minutes.html#ixzz3o1jz8cvY
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11:45:00 <Tigger_> Latham thinks unemployment is the problem, the kid was 15, so unlikely to be employed in any case
11:45:01 <Abortion> ew clipboard hijacking
11:45:14 <Tigger_> Latham thinks unemployment is the problem, the kid was 15, so unlikely to be employed in any case
11:46:00 <Abortion> lol Latham
11:46:00 <Abortion> he's been disowned by practically everyone except the media
11:46:36 <Abortion> lol Latham
11:46:51 <Abortion> he's been disowned by practically everyone except the media
11:47:00 <Abortion> Reminds me of Richard Dawkins
11:47:35 <Abortion> Reminds me of Richard Dawkins
11:48:00 <Tigger_> my impression of him is that he's a very intelligent, but also quite unbalanced character. too smart to be in the Labor party, but too mad to cope anywhere else
11:48:00 <Tigger_> how so?
11:48:15 <Tigger_> my impression of him is that he's a very intelligent, but also quite unbalanced character. too smart to be in the Labor party, but too mad to cope anywhere else
11:48:23 <Tigger_> how so?
11:49:00 <Abortion> Same reasons really. He is intelligent, but he can't control himself
11:49:00 <Abortion> Media loves that shit
11:49:00 <Abortion> smart guy goes bonkers
11:49:15 <Abortion> Same reasons really. He is intelligent, but he can't control himself
11:49:23 <Abortion> Media loves that shit
11:49:29 <Abortion> smart guy goes bonkers
11:50:00 <Abortion> Also he jumps to conclusions in fields outside of his own expertise
11:50:31 <Abortion> Also he jumps to conclusions in fields outside of his own expertise
11:51:00 <Tigger_> Dawkins' is an example of someone who misapplies the methodology of his field of expertise to fields where that methodology can't work
11:51:32 <Tigger_> Dawkins' is an example of someone who misapplies the methodology of his field of expertise to fields where that methodology can't work
11:53:00 <Tigger_> such as he believes that theology must be rubbish because it does not employ the scientific method of performing tests and getting results, but the same criticism applies to philosophy, so he's not just attacking religion, but all of philosophy too
11:53:32 <Tigger_> such as he believes that theology must be rubbish because it does not employ the scientific method of performing tests and getting results, but the same criticism applies to philosophy, so he's not just attacking religion, but all of philosophy too
11:55:00 <Abortion> Most atheist academics are in philosphy for this reason
11:55:00 <Abortion> But the media loves him, so we keep seeing hsi face
11:55:35 <Abortion> Most atheist academics are in philosphy for this reason
11:55:53 <Abortion> But the media loves him, so we keep seeing hsi face
11:57:00 <Abortion> Dawkins has made a bunch of money too, so there is that
11:57:00 <Tigger_> I was quite entertained by the entire Elevatorgate incident, and the schism between New Atheism and Atheism+, one of the great popcorn moments of our era
11:57:23 <Abortion> Dawkins has made a bunch of money too, so there is that
11:57:28 <Tigger_> I was quite entertained by the entire Elevatorgate incident, and the schism between New Atheism and Atheism+, one of the great popcorn moments of our era
11:58:00 <Abortion> I guess, Gamergate had more substance than that
11:58:00 <Abortion> really quite petty
11:58:20 <Abortion> I guess, Gamergate had more substance than that
11:58:35 <Abortion> really quite petty
11:59:00 <Abortion> I also make a point of not reading loads of atheist stuff
11:59:00 <Abortion> I don't think it really serves a purpose asides from being a big circlejerk
11:59:00 <Abortion> I can come to my own conculsions, thank you
11:59:00 <Tigger_> Gamergate was very instructive in many ways, such as this is the first time that the Cultural Marxist march through the institutions has been stopped dead in its tracks, every other cultural edifice has given up without a fight
11:59:11 <Abortion> I also make a point of not reading loads of atheist stuff
11:59:34 <Abortion> I don't think it really serves a purpose asides from being a big circlejerk
11:59:40 <Abortion> I can come to my own conculsions, thank you
11:59:48 <Tigger_> Gamergate was very instructive in many ways, such as this is the first time that the Cultural Marxist march through the institutions has been stopped dead in its tracks, every other cultural edifice has given up without a fight
12:00:00 <Abortion> I don't really know enough about Marxism to comment
12:01:00 <Tigger_> this isn't classical Marxism, but Cultural Marxism from the Frankfurt School onwards, it's really a heresy from Marxism
12:01:02 <Abortion> I don't really know enough about Marxism to comment
12:01:56 <Tigger_> this isn't classical Marxism, but Cultural Marxism from the Frankfurt School onwards, it's really a heresy from Marxism
12:02:00 <Abortion> still know nothing about it
12:02:00 <Tigger_> well SJWs are a manifestation of Cultural Marxism
12:02:00 <Abortion> I figured that
12:02:00 <Abortion> but without knowing what it is, I'm going to err on the side of caution
12:02:10 <Abortion> still know nothing about it
12:02:30 <Tigger_> well SJWs are a manifestation of Cultural Marxism
12:02:42 <Abortion> I figured that
12:02:56 <Abortion> but without knowing what it is, I'm going to err on the side of caution
12:03:00 <Abortion> I really only know about the outer shell
12:03:00 <Abortion> I stay the hell away from SJW stuff
12:03:11 <Abortion> I really only know about the outer shell
12:03:22 <Abortion> I stay the hell away from SJW stuff
12:04:00 <Abortion> When Gamergate broke, I knew it was something I didn't want to read about. The only thing I know about it was reviewers paid in prostitutes or something, and that there was a shitstorm
12:04:16 <Abortion> When Gamergate broke, I knew it was something I didn't want to read about. The only thing I know about it was reviewers paid in prostitutes or something, and that there was a shitstorm
12:05:00 <Tigger_> Marxism concerns itself with economics and class issues, Cultural Marxism largely ignores economics (even being pro-capitalist in some cases), while focusing on identity politics of women, racial and sexual minorities, etc. their aim is not to replace the system but commandeer the system
12:05:29 <Tigger_> Marxism concerns itself with economics and class issues, Cultural Marxism largely ignores economics (even being pro-capitalist in some cases), while focusing on identity politics of women, racial and sexual minorities, etc. their aim is not to replace the system but commandeer the system
12:06:00 <Tigger_> I consider Libertarianism to be largely a stumbling backwards into Cultural Marxism
12:06:45 <Tigger_> I consider Libertarianism to be largely a stumbling backwards into Cultural Marxism
12:07:00 <Abortion> all shit I don't care about. It is like Trans people. You can identify as you like, I'll accept you, until it gets to the point of sexual attraction. To me thats the end of the story.
12:07:16 <Abortion> all shit I don't care about. It is like Trans people. You can identify as you like, I'll accept you, until it gets to the point of sexual attraction. To me thats the end of the story.
12:08:00 <Tigger_> most people have never met a trans person, and wouldn't even know what one was if they were not constantly told about them, so transphobia is akin to yowie-phobia
12:08:00 <Abortion> I have
12:08:00 <Tigger_> how did that happen?
12:08:00 <Abortion> Though that was before he changed to a she
12:08:28 <Tigger_> most people have never met a trans person, and wouldn't even know what one was if they were not constantly told about them, so transphobia is akin to yowie-phobia
12:08:45 <Abortion> I have
12:08:53 <Tigger_> how did that happen?
12:09:00 <Abortion> wait
12:09:00 <Abortion> no actually I did meet a current one
12:09:00 <Abortion> but yeah, I'm happy to talk to them, they're people. If they want me to be attracted to them, sorry
12:09:00 <Tigger_> I've only met one that changed his mind and went back to being a man. he was watching the football when I met him, so he seemed to have accepted being a man again without too much difficulty
12:09:00 <Abortion> even if it is a bit weird seeing someone as a female with an obviously male voice
12:09:02 <Abortion> Though that was before he changed to a she
12:09:09 <Abortion> wait
12:09:14 <Abortion> no actually I did meet a current one
12:09:38 <Abortion> but yeah, I'm happy to talk to them, they're people. If they want me to be attracted to them, sorry
12:09:50 <Tigger_> I've only met one that changed his mind and went back to being a man. he was watching the football when I met him, so he seemed to have accepted being a man again without too much difficulty
12:10:00 <Tigger_> the older they change the more implausible they are, that's why there's a push to get them transitioning before puberty has finished with them
12:10:02 <Abortion> even if it is a bit weird seeing someone as a female with an obviously male voice
12:10:52 <Tigger_> the older they change the more implausible they are, that's why there's a push to get them transitioning before puberty has finished with them
12:11:00 <Abortion> the people I'm talking about would be in early 20s
12:11:00 <Tigger_> so even that is too late for a convincing transition
12:11:12 <Abortion> the people I'm talking about would be in early 20s
12:11:34 <Tigger_> so even that is too late for a convincing transition
12:12:00 <Abortion> On an unrelated note, I reckon the topless girl behind the bar at a strip bar thing was a lesbian. There was a performer on stage and she was staring at her for quite some time before she noticed I was waiting to order a drink
12:12:00 <Abortion> that was amusing
12:12:09 <Abortion> On an unrelated note, I reckon the topless girl behind the bar at a strip bar thing was a lesbian. There was a performer on stage and she was staring at her for quite some time before she noticed I was waiting to order a drink
12:12:13 <Abortion> that was amusing
12:13:00 <Tigger_> I've never been into a place like that
12:13:00 <Tigger_> but it might've been envy
12:13:00 <Abortion> I never asked
12:13:00 <Abortion> don't care really
12:13:34 <Tigger_> I've never been into a place like that
12:13:39 <Tigger_> but it might've been envy
12:13:48 <Abortion> I never asked
12:13:52 <Abortion> don't care really
12:14:00 <Abortion> the apparent disconnect amused me
12:14:00 <Tigger_> lesbians often have longer left hand ring fingers than index fingers, so look for that
12:14:04 <Abortion> the apparent disconnect amused me
12:14:34 <Tigger_> lesbians often have longer left hand ring fingers than index fingers, so look for that
12:15:00 <Abortion> I think the exposure to testosterone in the womb contributing to that has at least one contrary study
12:15:00 <Abortion> Instead they found it affected facial structure
12:15:04 <Abortion> I think the exposure to testosterone in the womb contributing to that has at least one contrary study
12:15:30 <Abortion> Instead they found it affected facial structure
12:16:00 <Tigger_> I don't know the lesbian facial structure, but the male gayface is pretty obvious
12:16:06 <Tigger_> I don't know the lesbian facial structure, but the male gayface is pretty obvious
12:17:00 <Abortion> I'm not convinced there is one, not by structure anyway. Given that gay males tend to care about appearance, they lean towards doing particular things. Sometimes. One friend of mine who is verifyably gay is pretty masculine
12:17:00 <Tigger_> there was a study that showed most people can identify a gay male from the most neutral of photos
12:17:00 <Abortion> Was it repeated?
12:17:29 <Abortion> I'm not convinced there is one, not by structure anyway. Given that gay males tend to care about appearance, they lean towards doing particular things. Sometimes. One friend of mine who is verifyably gay is pretty masculine
12:17:44 <Tigger_> there was a study that showed most people can identify a gay male from the most neutral of photos
12:17:56 <Abortion> Was it repeated?
12:18:00 <Tigger_> I sort of did a test of my own when I showed a friend an episode of Modern Family, which she had not seen before, and asked her which did she think was the real life gay, Cameron or Mitchell, and she correctly guessed it was Mitchell
12:18:00 <Abortion> a rather small sample size
12:18:00 <Tigger_> yes, in this case
12:18:22 <Tigger_> I sort of did a test of my own when I showed a friend an episode of Modern Family, which she had not seen before, and asked her which did she think was the real life gay, Cameron or Mitchell, and she correctly guessed it was Mitchell
12:18:39 <Abortion> a rather small sample size
12:18:45 <Tigger_> yes, in this case
12:19:00 <Tigger_> but I anecdotally hear that most people guess that it's Mitchell who is truly gay, even though Cameron camps it up more
12:19:00 <Abortion> I've heard of a contrary study
12:19:00 <Abortion> Yay psychology
12:19:19 <Tigger_> but I anecdotally hear that most people guess that it's Mitchell who is truly gay, even though Cameron camps it up more
12:19:19 <Abortion> I've heard of a contrary study
12:19:23 <Abortion> Yay psychology
12:21:00 <Abortion> I see there was an 80% accurate gaydar study in 2012, but a no gadar study September this year
12:21:00 <Tigger_> but if they insist that they're born this way, then it is to be expected that there are signifiers that impart this to others
12:21:19 <Abortion> I see there was an 80% accurate gaydar study in 2012, but a no gadar study September this year
12:21:35 <Tigger_> but if they insist that they're born this way, then it is to be expected that there are signifiers that impart this to others
12:22:00 <Abortion> Just because there are actually measurable attributes, doesn't mean we know the measure
12:22:00 <Abortion> instinct is hardly perfect
12:22:05 <Abortion> Just because there are actually measurable attributes, doesn't mean we know the measure
12:22:27 <Abortion> instinct is hardly perfect
12:24:00 <Abortion> Alternately, if we know the measure, doesn't mean we can do it without tooling
12:24:00 <Tigger_> no it's not perfect, and never can be, but generalities are generally true
12:24:33 <Abortion> Alternately, if we know the measure, doesn't mean we can do it without tooling
12:24:47 <Tigger_> no it's not perfect, and never can be, but generalities are generally true
12:25:00 <Abortion> That statement sounds like a truisnm
12:25:00 <Abortion> *trusim
12:25:00 <Tigger_> what may be incorrect for an individual can be correct for a group
12:25:10 <Abortion> That statement sounds like a truisnm
12:25:13 <Abortion> *trusim
12:25:50 <Tigger_> what may be incorrect for an individual can be correct for a group
12:26:00 <Abortion> "can be" and "are" are not equivalent
12:26:00 <Tigger_> my favourite irony is the Russian actor Ivan Okhlobystin who hates gays, sports a flaming gayface himself: http://www.theplace2.ru/archive/ivan_okhlobystin/img/f_4b9b8eee0677d.jpg
12:26:00 <Abortion> It is also dependant on the generality being correct
12:26:19 <Abortion> "can be" and "are" are not equivalent
12:26:38 <Tigger_> my favourite irony is the Russian actor Ivan Okhlobystin who hates gays, sports a flaming gayface himself: http://www.theplace2.ru/archive/ivan_okhlobystin/img/f_4b9b8eee0677d.jpg
12:26:49 <Abortion> It is also dependant on the generality being correct
12:27:00 <Abortion> Makes me think of Conservative Americans who have been caught hiring gay prostitutes
12:27:25 <Abortion> Makes me think of Conservative Americans who have been caught hiring gay prostitutes
12:28:00 <Abortion> Hmm, lunch time
12:28:00 <Tigger_> I think of it in terms of marketing "Our studies show that married women between the ages of 30-40 like this brand of soap", sure plenty of exceptions can be found, but meanwhile you can make a lot of money with such a generalisation
12:28:16 <Abortion> Hmm, lunch time
12:28:27 <Tigger_> I think of it in terms of marketing "Our studies show that married women between the ages of 30-40 like this brand of soap", sure plenty of exceptions can be found, but meanwhile you can make a lot of money with such a generalisation
12:30:00 <Abortion> Thats fair, I was nitpicking on the wording with can be and are
12:30:00 <Abortion> However the generalisation does need to be correct
12:30:00 <Abortion> many generalisations have been shown to be otherwise
12:30:11 <Abortion> Thats fair, I was nitpicking on the wording with can be and are
12:30:26 <Abortion> However the generalisation does need to be correct
12:30:33 <Abortion> many generalisations have been shown to be otherwise
12:31:00 <Tigger_> most stereotypes can be considered a form of popular sociology
12:31:00 <Abortion> Big data is helping with correct generalisations (as per your soap example)
12:31:19 <Tigger_> most stereotypes can be considered a form of popular sociology
12:31:48 <Abortion> Big data is helping with correct generalisations (as per your soap example)
12:32:00 <Abortion> Did you hear about the Target Algorithm which correctly picked a teenage girl was pregnant based on her shopping habits? Father was pissed when he saw the type of material, and contacted Target. Couple months later, he rings back and apologises as his Daugher was actually pregnant
12:32:00 <Abortion> and just didn't tell him
12:32:42 <Abortion> Did you hear about the Target Algorithm which correctly picked a teenage girl was pregnant based on her shopping habits? Father was pissed when he saw the type of material, and contacted Target. Couple months later, he rings back and apologises as his Daugher was actually pregnant
12:33:00 <Abortion> and just didn't tell him
12:33:00 <Tigger_> no I didn't know about that one
12:33:00 <Abortion> Type of advertising material I should say
12:33:00 <Tigger_> but clearly Amazon could do with such data analysis, they know exactly what sort of books I buy, yet they deluge me with very random ads for things I've never shown the slightest interest in
12:33:03 <Tigger_> no I didn't know about that one
12:33:28 <Abortion> Type of advertising material I should say
12:33:54 <Tigger_> but clearly Amazon could do with such data analysis, they know exactly what sort of books I buy, yet they deluge me with very random ads for things I've never shown the slightest interest in
12:35:00 <Abortion> Yeah, its a ruse
12:35:00 <Abortion> or it can be
12:35:43 <Abortion> Yeah, its a ruse
12:35:47 <Abortion> or it can be
12:36:00 <Abortion> It is stated that in response to the pregnant thing, Target were more surreptitious, in order to avoid creeping out customers
12:36:00 <Abortion> I heard about the NPR radio app yesterday, it does the same, but more honestly includes stuff that doesn't match, in an attempt to not completely narrow your targeting (allowing you to escape it to an extent(
12:36:15 <Abortion> It is stated that in response to the pregnant thing, Target were more surreptitious, in order to avoid creeping out customers
12:37:00 <Abortion> I heard about the NPR radio app yesterday, it does the same, but more honestly includes stuff that doesn't match, in an attempt to not completely narrow your targeting (allowing you to escape it to an extent(
12:37:00 <Abortion> Google has been accused of targeting searches too
12:37:00 <Tigger_> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp quite interesting
12:37:00 <Abortion> People have critisicsed it as it strengthens confirmation bias when searching for a controversial issue
12:37:36 <Abortion> Google has been accused of targeting searches too
12:37:36 <Tigger_> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&hp quite interesting
12:37:58 <Abortion> People have critisicsed it as it strengthens confirmation bias when searching for a controversial issue
12:38:00 <Abortion> Less likely to see opposing view points
12:38:00 <Tigger_> google hasn't done terribly well with me, I search solar rooftop panels once, and get six months of sidebar ads for solar panels
12:38:00 <Abortion> My guess there is, whatever else you search for just isn't as saleable
12:38:12 <Abortion> Less likely to see opposing view points
12:38:31 <Tigger_> google hasn't done terribly well with me, I search solar rooftop panels once, and get six months of sidebar ads for solar panels
12:39:00 <Abortion> My guess there is, whatever else you search for just isn't as saleable
12:39:00 <Abortion> Ads rarely catch my interest as well
12:39:00 <Abortion> the very few times I have clicked, I end up with something that doesn't suit what I was after anyway
12:39:35 <Abortion> Ads rarely catch my interest as well
12:39:50 <Abortion> the very few times I have clicked, I end up with something that doesn't suit what I was after anyway
12:40:00 <Abortion> Not purchased, but I can see very quickly on the marketing page
12:40:00 <Tigger_> anything to do with travel searches will flag you for travel related ads too
12:40:03 <Abortion> Not purchased, but I can see very quickly on the marketing page
12:40:29 <Tigger_> anything to do with travel searches will flag you for travel related ads too
12:41:00 <Abortion> Have you ever checked http://www.google.com/ads/preferences?
12:41:00 <Abortion> It tells you explicitly what google things you are
12:41:29 <Abortion> Have you ever checked http://www.google.com/ads/preferences?
12:41:38 <Abortion> It tells you explicitly what google things you are
12:42:00 <Abortion> In my case it has two interests, Android Apps (which is partially correct) and Reggaeton, way off
12:42:00 <Tigger_> identifying the pregnant woman might actually be a lot easier, since there are very specific needs. the rest of the time people tend to be a bit hazier
12:42:00 <Tigger_> I'll have a look
12:42:00 <Abortion> It doesn't need to determine my age range though, as I'm pretty sure google explicitly has my birthdate
12:42:08 <Abortion> In my case it has two interests, Android Apps (which is partially correct) and Reggaeton, way off
12:42:10 <Tigger_> identifying the pregnant woman might actually be a lot easier, since there are very specific needs. the rest of the time people tend to be a bit hazier
12:42:19 <Tigger_> I'll have a look
12:42:44 <Abortion> It doesn't need to determine my age range though, as I'm pretty sure google explicitly has my birthdate
12:43:00 <Tigger_> heh, I just found mine, it's pretty crazy
12:43:00 <Tigger_> says I'm keen on sports news
12:43:00 <Tigger_> full list;
12:43:00 <Tigger_> Your interests
12:43:00 <Tigger_> Action & Adventure Films
12:43:00 <Tigger_> Adventure Games
12:43:00 <Tigger_> Classic Films
12:43:00 <Tigger_> Electric & Plug-In Vehicles
12:43:00 <Tigger_> Film & TV Production
12:43:00 <Tigger_> Laptops & Notebooks
12:43:00 <Tigger_> Live Comedy
12:43:00 <Tigger_> Pets & Animals
12:43:00 <Tigger_> Product Reviews & Price Comparisons
12:43:00 <Tigger_> Reference
12:43:12 <Tigger_> heh, I just found mine, it's pretty crazy
12:43:18 <Tigger_> says I'm keen on sports news
12:43:46 <Tigger_> full list;
12:43:48 <Tigger_> Your interests
12:43:48 <Tigger_> Action & Adventure Films
12:43:48 <Tigger_> Adventure Games
12:43:48 <Tigger_> Classic Films
12:43:48 <Tigger_> Electric & Plug-In Vehicles
12:43:49 <Tigger_> Film & TV Production
12:43:53 <Tigger_> Laptops & Notebooks
12:43:55 <Tigger_> Live Comedy
12:43:57 <Tigger_> Pets & Animals
12:43:59 <Tigger_> Product Reviews & Price Comparisons
12:44:00 <Tigger_> Service Providers
12:44:00 <Tigger_> Smart Phones
12:44:00 <Tigger_> Social Networks
12:44:00 <Tigger_> Sports News
12:44:00 <Tigger_> I'm not a member of any social network
12:44:00 <Abortion> Well from what you've said here, films is dead on
12:44:00 <Tigger_> but films, yes
12:44:00 <Abortion> I reckon social networks includes news about it
12:44:00 <Abortion> that is, things people have found because of it
12:44:00 <Abortion> which is interesting stuff, because that is big data
12:44:00 <Tigger_> electric and plug in vehicles? I have no idea why they'd think that
12:44:01 <Tigger_> Reference
12:44:03 <Tigger_> Service Providers
12:44:05 <Tigger_> Smart Phones
12:44:07 <Tigger_> Social Networks
12:44:09 <Tigger_> Sports News
12:44:13 <Tigger_> I'm not a member of any social network
12:44:14 <Abortion> Well from what you've said here, films is dead on
12:44:23 <Tigger_> but films, yes
12:44:41 <Abortion> I reckon social networks includes news about it
12:44:47 <Abortion> that is, things people have found because of it
12:44:57 <Abortion> which is interesting stuff, because that is big data
12:45:00 <Tigger_> electric and plug in vehicles? I have no idea why they'd think that
12:45:00 <Tigger_> I have no interest in live comedy
12:45:00 <Tigger_> pets and animals, probably true from all the cat videos
12:45:00 <Abortion> lol
12:45:00 <Abortion> "Product Reviews & Price Comparisons"
12:45:00 <Tigger_> product reviews and price comparison, yes
12:45:00 <Abortion> I'm suprised it hasn't put me down for that
12:45:00 <Abortion> I've looked for reviews plenty of times
12:45:13 <Tigger_> I have no interest in live comedy
12:45:24 <Tigger_> pets and animals, probably true from all the cat videos
12:45:27 <Abortion> lol
12:45:37 <Abortion> "Product Reviews & Price Comparisons"
12:45:38 <Tigger_> product reviews and price comparison, yes
12:45:44 <Abortion> I'm suprised it hasn't put me down for that
12:45:53 <Abortion> I've looked for reviews plenty of times
12:46:00 <Tigger_> service providers, I've been with iinet for 5 years now, not looking to change
12:46:00 <Abortion> Well you're part of the TPG behemoth now
12:46:00 <Tigger_> yes, sadly
12:46:00 <Abortion> as if iiBorg wasn't already big lol
12:46:00 <Tigger_> I thought it was odd that I was tagged as being into adventure games, I'm more into arcade games
12:46:03 <Tigger_> service providers, I've been with iinet for 5 years now, not looking to change
12:46:27 <Abortion> Well you're part of the TPG behemoth now
12:46:33 <Tigger_> yes, sadly
12:46:39 <Abortion> as if iiBorg wasn't already big lol
12:47:00 <Tigger_> a for sports news, not even once
12:47:00 <Abortion> which is atypical for this IRC network
12:47:00 <Abortion> every other channel, foooooootball
12:47:02 <Tigger_> I thought it was odd that I was tagged as being into adventure games, I'm more into arcade games
12:47:38 <Tigger_> a for sports news, not even once
12:47:50 <Abortion> which is atypical for this IRC network
12:47:56 <Abortion> every other channel, foooooootball
12:48:00 <Tigger_> I don't even know what the different types of football are
12:48:21 <Tigger_> I don't even know what the different types of football are
12:49:00 <Abortion> careful now, you might run afowl of https://xkcd.com/1480/
12:49:00 <Abortion> also lol sportsball in the img alt text
12:49:18 <Abortion> careful now, you might run afowl of https://xkcd.com/1480/
12:49:26 <Abortion> also lol sportsball in the img alt text
12:50:00 <Abortion> I'm not a huge sports fan, but I do like watching Soccer Own Goals. The reactions are hilarious
12:50:55 <Abortion> I'm not a huge sports fan, but I do like watching Soccer Own Goals. The reactions are hilarious
12:51:00 <Tigger_> I can understand sports on an international level, like the Olympics, but supporting a football team where the players are bought and sold, I don't understand how the victory of such a team confers meaning
12:51:00 <Abortion> yeah never say that to my boss
12:51:00 <Tigger_> why not?
12:51:00 <Abortion> Well unless you want to alienate him
12:51:20 <Tigger_> I can understand sports on an international level, like the Olympics, but supporting a football team where the players are bought and sold, I don't understand how the victory of such a team confers meaning
12:51:32 <Abortion> yeah never say that to my boss
12:51:40 <Tigger_> why not?
12:51:52 <Abortion> Well unless you want to alienate him
12:52:00 <Abortion> He follows it pretty keenly
12:52:00 <Tigger_> I find all this very strange, normal people are stranger than I am
12:52:00 <Abortion> Yes, brings into question the definition
12:52:03 <Abortion> He follows it pretty keenly
12:52:26 <Tigger_> I find all this very strange, normal people are stranger than I am
12:52:55 <Abortion> Yes, brings into question the definition
12:53:00 <Abortion> Probably more correct to refer to the majority
12:53:00 <Abortion> rather than "normal"
12:53:04 <Abortion> Probably more correct to refer to the majority
12:53:10 <Abortion> rather than "normal"
12:54:00 <Tigger_> I can understand how it came to be though, with Hegel's theory of alienation, that due to high specialisation with division of labour, that people are not able to easily talk to others from different professions, so an artificial common interest has to be created to become a social glue
12:54:00 <Abortion> I would agree with that
12:54:31 <Tigger_> I can understand how it came to be though, with Hegel's theory of alienation, that due to high specialisation with division of labour, that people are not able to easily talk to others from different professions, so an artificial common interest has to be created to become a social glue
12:55:00 <Abortion> its particularly prevalent in country towns
12:55:00 <Abortion> Everyone follows the local sports team or your weird
12:55:00 <Abortion> *you're
12:55:00 <Abortion> (probably got my ie-ei wrong too)
12:55:00 <Tigger_> in that context it makes more sense, since the players are more likely to be locals, so it's a community thing
12:55:02 <Abortion> I would agree with that
12:55:18 <Abortion> its particularly prevalent in country towns
12:55:27 <Abortion> Everyone follows the local sports team or your weird
12:55:32 <Abortion> *you're
12:55:58 <Abortion> (probably got my ie-ei wrong too)
12:56:00 <Tigger_> in that context it makes more sense, since the players are more likely to be locals, so it's a community thing
12:56:00 <Tigger_> but the big teams are made up of players from all over, few of whom had anything to do with the area in which the team is based
12:56:00 <Abortion> its an extension of abstraction I think. It still serves for the conversational point
12:56:50 <Tigger_> but the big teams are made up of players from all over, few of whom had anything to do with the area in which the team is based
12:56:52 <Abortion> its an extension of abstraction I think. It still serves for the conversational point
12:57:00 <Abortion> The only difference is the local team you can actually talk to the players
12:57:00 <Tigger_> again that makes more sense to me
12:57:00 <Tigger_> that you'd support someone you'd personally know
12:57:00 <Abortion> I'm going to make another guess
12:57:10 <Abortion> The only difference is the local team you can actually talk to the players
12:57:21 <Tigger_> again that makes more sense to me
12:57:30 <Tigger_> that you'd support someone you'd personally know
12:57:43 <Abortion> I'm going to make another guess
12:58:00 <Abortion> In such a dense city, where people interact with people from all over, if there were that many local teams, you'd not be able to come to an accord on your team preferences because you're probably from a different local team
12:58:40 <Abortion> In such a dense city, where people interact with people from all over, if there were that many local teams, you'd not be able to come to an accord on your team preferences because you're probably from a different local team
12:59:00 <Abortion> that is a guess though
12:59:00 <Tigger_> I have no idea
12:59:00 <Abortion> Melbourne for example has 10 teams, so they're already pretty divided
12:59:00 <Abortion> well, around 10
12:59:30 <Abortion> that is a guess though
12:59:41 <Tigger_> I have no idea
12:59:52 <Abortion> Melbourne for example has 10 teams, so they're already pretty divided
13:00:00 <Tigger_> I still remember my first thoughts about sports teams, I was about 5 or 6, and learned that they had to play these games next year, and the year after that. I decided this was futility, as it does not settle the question for once and for all, who is the best team
13:00:01 <Abortion> well, around 10
13:00:51 <Tigger_> I still remember my first thoughts about sports teams, I was about 5 or 6, and learned that they had to play these games next year, and the year after that. I decided this was futility, as it does not settle the question for once and for all, who is the best team
13:02:00 <Tigger_> at least when a bloke rides a motorbike through a flaming hoop over a tank full of sharks, you know something has definitely been achieved
13:02:10 <Tigger_> at least when a bloke rides a motorbike through a flaming hoop over a tank full of sharks, you know something has definitely been achieved
13:17:00 <chillin> hi
13:17:00 <chillin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgTP4u3rvEc
13:17:00 <chillin> thats what i feel
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13:17:33 <chillin> hi
13:17:38 <chillin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgTP4u3rvEc
13:17:48 <chillin> thats what i feel
13:18:00 <chillin> and u torement me
13:18:00 <chillin> im trying make music as beautiful as someone
13:18:07 <chillin> and u torement me
13:18:57 <chillin> im trying make music as beautiful as someone
13:19:00 <chillin> thats why i have to make so many tracks
13:19:00 <chillin> causes its impossible
13:19:07 <chillin> thats why i have to make so many tracks
13:19:16 <chillin> causes its impossible
13:21:00 <chillin> then u do this
13:21:00 <chillin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj8N4bbMsAs
13:21:42 <chillin> then u do this
13:21:43 <chillin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj8N4bbMsAs
13:27:00 <chillin> wooohoooo
13:27:00 <chillin> push the little crazyziez and end up cut
13:27:06 <chillin> wooohoooo
13:27:45 <chillin> push the little crazyziez and end up cut
13:27:50 <chillin> push the little crazyziez and end up cut
13:28:00 <Tigger_> The Night Moon is really good
13:28:00 <chillin> yep
13:28:17 <Tigger_> The Night Moon is really good
13:28:21 <chillin> yep
13:29:00 <chillin> kick kat paddie wag slag slog flog log blog moggie soggy woggy was he writ
13:29:00 <chillin> shit
13:29:14 <chillin> kick kat paddie wag slag slog flog log blog moggie soggy woggy was he writ
13:29:33 <chillin> shit
13:30:00 <chillin> willy was he wozzle write might like right wrong in song from
13:30:40 <chillin> willy was he wozzle write might like right wrong in song from
13:31:00 <chillin> ding dang dong slong thong wrong hole soul grips as trips pavement slips
13:32:00 <chillin> ding dang dong slong thong wrong hole soul grips as trips pavement slips
13:32:00 <chillin> bored
13:33:00 <Tigger_> ready to do ya is good too
13:33:00 <Tigger_> hi jen
13:33:00 <chillin> hi jen
13:33:02 <chillin> bored
13:33:09 <Tigger_> ready to do ya is good too
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13:33:15 <Tigger_> hi jen
13:33:17 <chillin> hi jen
13:34:00 <chillin> 4@13>3--9;3---
13:34:00 <anotherirc3r> heya Tigger!
13:34:00 <anotherirc3r> heya Chris
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13:34:00 <anotherirc3r> i didn't try anything?
13:34:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
13:34:26 <chillin> @>--;---
13:34:26 <anotherirc3r> heya Tigger!
13:34:33 <anotherirc3r> heya Chris
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13:34:55 <anotherirc3r> i didn't try anything?
13:34:56 <anotherirc3r> lol
13:35:00 <Tigger_> a likely story, you were probably trying to take over
13:35:47 <Tigger_> a likely story, you were probably trying to take over
13:36:00 <chillin> it does that to me
13:36:00 <chillin> but not this channel
13:36:07 <chillin> it does that to me
13:36:19 <chillin> but not this channel
13:37:00 <chillin> anotherirc3r what u doing
13:37:00 <chillin> its nice day
13:37:00 <chillin> wish u were here
13:37:00 <anotherirc3r> oh.. shhh Tigger! i was trying to be subtle about it
13:37:14 <chillin> anotherirc3r what u doing
13:37:18 <chillin> its nice day
13:37:29 <chillin> wish u were here
13:37:36 <anotherirc3r> oh.. shhh Tigger! i was trying to be subtle about it
13:39:00 <Tigger_> I purchased a new breadmaker this morning, when it is delivered I shall attempt to make a lentil dahl in a bread bowl, for the bread to soak up the dahl
13:40:00 <anotherirc3r> chillin, i am about to go across the road to get a coffee and some groceries
13:40:00 <anotherirc3r> i'm exciting like that
13:40:00 <Tigger_> do you have a Woolworths/Coles across the road?
13:40:00 <anotherirc3r> Tigger, you want to make all of us some bread? how kind of you!
13:40:01 <Tigger_> I purchased a new breadmaker this morning, when it is delivered I shall attempt to make a lentil dahl in a bread bowl, for the bread to soak up the dahl
13:40:38 <anotherirc3r> chillin, i am about to go across the road to get a coffee and some groceries
13:40:41 <anotherirc3r> i'm exciting like that
13:40:57 <Tigger_> do you have a Woolworths/Coles across the road?
13:41:00 <anotherirc3r> Tigger, you want to make all of us some bread? how kind of you!
13:41:00 <Tigger_> I could do
13:41:00 <anotherirc3r> nah. just an IGA, health food shop, cafe
13:41:00 <anotherirc3r> well.. there's heaps of shops
13:41:00 <Tigger_> it's great when it's still hot, and the butter melts in
13:41:00 <Tigger_> very convenient
13:41:00 <Tigger_> however I would still insist that they deliver
13:41:10 <Tigger_> I could do
13:41:18 <anotherirc3r> nah. just an IGA, health food shop, cafe
13:41:22 <anotherirc3r> well.. there's heaps of shops
13:41:28 <Tigger_> it's great when it's still hot, and the butter melts in
13:41:35 <Tigger_> very convenient
13:41:46 <Tigger_> however I would still insist that they deliver
13:44:00 <anotherirc3r> lol of course
13:44:32 <anotherirc3r> lol of course
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14:02:29 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
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14:13:00 <anotherirc3r> i think i should become a tradie. they sound like they are having so much fun
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14:14:00 <anotherirc3r> k bbs
14:14:01 <anotherirc3r> i think i should become a tradie. they sound like they are having so much fun
14:14:03 <anotherirc3r> k bbs
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14:15:00 <Osskkaarr> lol you? a tradie?
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14:15:48 <Osskkaarr> lol you? a tradie?
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14:16:00 <Osskkaarr> Yeah.. A tradie at getting the drinks.
14:16:58 <Osskkaarr> Yeah.. A tradie at getting the drinks.
14:18:00 <Osskkaarr> And then get you up on the ladder with a nail gun, start there and don't stop till it's finished.
14:18:30 <Osskkaarr> And then get you up on the ladder with a nail gun, start there and don't stop till it's finished.
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15:53:00 <Abortion> Tigger_: Hey when you download books, what format do you get them in?
15:53:00 <Tigger_> I try to get mobi, but epub is more common, so they have to be converted
15:53:21 <Abortion> Tigger_: Hey when you download books, what format do you get them in?
15:53:57 <Tigger_> I try to get mobi, but epub is more common, so they have to be converted
15:59:00 <Tigger_> I just looked, even the new model Kindles still do not support epub, and probably never will, obviously not an issue for Kobo
15:59:38 <Tigger_> I just looked, even the new model Kindles still do not support epub, and probably never will, obviously not an issue for Kobo
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16:38:03 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
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16:58:00 <Warren1984> `topic
16:58:29 <Warren1984> `topic
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16:59:00 <ajnin> hi
16:59:17 <ajnin> hi
17:00:00 <Abortion> what does mobi have over epub?
17:00:57 <Abortion> what does mobi have over epub?
17:01:00 <Abortion> I was thinking epub, but the important part is they are both intended for text reflow, unlike some shitty PDFs I've seen
17:01:18 <Abortion> I was thinking epub, but the important part is they are both intended for text reflow, unlike some shitty PDFs I've seen
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18:03:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what you up to?
18:03:51 <Warren1984> Tigger_ what you up to?
18:16:00 <Tigger_> <Abortion> what does mobi have over epub?
18:16:00 <Tigger_> <Abortion> I was thinking epub, but the important part is they are both intended for text reflow, unlike some shitty PDFs I've seen
18:16:00 <Tigger_> nothing much that I'm aware of, just that mobi is the kindle's native format, whereas kindle can't read epub
18:16:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, very soon I'm going to poison the weeds growing near the driveway
18:16:17 <Tigger_> <Abortion> what does mobi have over epub?
18:16:17 <Tigger_> <Abortion> I was thinking epub, but the important part is they are both intended for text reflow, unlike some shitty PDFs I've seen
18:16:42 <Tigger_> nothing much that I'm aware of, just that mobi is the kindle's native format, whereas kindle can't read epub
18:17:00 <Warren1984> It's better to pull them
18:17:01 <Tigger_> Warren1984, very soon I'm going to poison the weeds growing near the driveway
18:17:29 <Warren1984> It's better to pull them
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18:26:00 <Tigger_> why?
18:26:00 <Tigger_> hurt your back bending down to pull them all the time
18:26:41 <Tigger_> why?
18:26:52 <Tigger_> hurt your back bending down to pull them all the time
18:28:00 <Warren1984> get rid of the root
18:28:48 <Warren1984> get rid of the root
18:30:00 <Tigger_> if you poison it it'll kill the root too
18:30:06 <Tigger_> if you poison it it'll kill the root too
18:51:00 <Warren1984> yeah I didn't think of that
18:52:00 <Warren1984> but if you have buffalo grass it will kill it
18:52:00 <Warren1984> because buffalo grass is a weed type of grass
18:52:00 <Warren1984> bbl
18:52:01 <Warren1984> yeah I didn't think of that
18:52:19 <Warren1984> but if you have buffalo grass it will kill it
18:52:33 <Warren1984> because buffalo grass is a weed type of grass
18:52:36 <Warren1984> bbl
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18:58:00 <chillin> hello
18:58:59 <chillin> hello
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19:07:00 <Lish> Hi
19:07:42 <Lish> Hi
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19:12:00 <Tigger_> hi Lish
19:12:47 <Tigger_> hi Lish
19:17:00 <Lish> What's happening
19:17:32 <Lish> What's happening
19:22:00 <Tigger_> I purchased a bread making machine today
19:22:00 <Lish> Oh cool
19:22:40 <Tigger_> I purchased a bread making machine today
19:22:54 <Lish> Oh cool
19:23:00 <Tigger_> this one: http://www.breville.com.au/the-custom-loaf-protm.html
19:23:00 <Lish> Oh yeah nice
19:23:29 <Tigger_> this one: http://www.breville.com.au/the-custom-loaf-protm.html
19:24:00 <Lish> My dad got a bread maker the other week
19:24:00 <Tigger_> has he been having fun with it?
19:24:00 <Lish> Yeah
19:24:00 <Tigger_> the bread sure is good
19:24:00 <Tigger_> what model did he get?
19:24:00 <Lish> I dunno
19:24:03 <Lish> Oh yeah nice
19:24:09 <Lish> My dad got a bread maker the other week
19:24:20 <Tigger_> has he been having fun with it?
19:24:28 <Lish> Yeah
19:24:36 <Tigger_> the bread sure is good
19:24:48 <Tigger_> what model did he get?
19:25:00 <Lish> I dunno
19:25:00 <Lish> It might even be that one
19:25:00 <Tigger_> have you used it?
19:25:00 <Lish> Nope
19:25:00 <Lish> I just eat the bread sometimes
19:25:03 <Lish> It might even be that one
19:25:31 <Tigger_> have you used it?
19:25:37 <Lish> Nope
19:25:44 <Lish> I just eat the bread sometimes
19:26:00 <Tigger_> does he do fancy style breads, like with sun dried tomato and stuff?
19:26:00 <Lish> Yeah sometimes
19:26:24 <Tigger_> does he do fancy style breads, like with sun dried tomato and stuff?
19:26:59 <Lish> Yeah sometimes
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19:36:49 <Lish> I'm going to eat hundred and thousands biscuits soon
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19:38:57 <Tigger_> they still have them? take a photo
19:39:12 <Lish> Ok I will when I get them
19:39:17 <Tigger_> in the biscuit section I never get past the Tim Tams and Gaitys
19:39:59 <Lish> What are gaitys
19:40:45 <Tigger_> http://mariosworld.org/assets/images/forum_images/forums.mariosworld.org/G/gaiety_biscuits.png
19:40:49 <Tigger_> these ones
19:41:13 <Tigger_> one half chomped: https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7421/9303895749_357c2bd38b_b.jpg
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19:42:03 <Lish> Oh I don't like those
19:42:08 <anotherirc3r> what is in those?
19:42:51 <Tigger_> they're chocolate wafers
19:43:02 <Tigger_> but lish hates chocolate
19:43:54 <Tigger_> the prices have shot up skyhigh thanks to some international cocoa shortage, which is a bit depressing for TimTam and Gaiety fans
19:43:58 <anotherirc3r> she does?
19:44:15 <Tigger_> yep, lish hates chocolate almost as much as cats
19:44:32 <Lish> Hahaha
19:49:02 <Lish> I got lattice biscuits too
19:49:08 <Lish> And cinnamon donuts
19:49:33 <Tigger_> what are lattice biscuits?
19:50:08 <anotherirc3r> i'm eating chocolate weatons
19:50:27 <anotherirc3r> wheaten*
19:50:28 <anotherirc3r> hehe
19:50:36 <Lish> https://chillikebab.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/lattice_opened.jpg
19:50:55 <anotherirc3r> are they sweet?
19:51:10 <Lish> Yea
19:51:41 <Tigger_> I probably wouldn't like them
19:52:01 <Lish> Why
19:52:12 <anotherirc3r> they don't look it!
19:54:01 <Lish> They are good
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19:55:31 <Warren1984> hi all
19:55:45 <Tigger_> I see no point in biscuits that are not chocolate
19:55:47 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
19:56:03 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_ Jen
19:58:21 <anotherirc3r> heya Warren :)
20:04:12 <Lish> I thought that was yesterday
20:04:33 <Lish> Oh ignore
20:04:34 <Tigger_> actually I do like BBQ Shapes
20:06:33 <Lish> I like them too
20:09:41 <IvanTheBastard> hi friends
20:10:57 <Tigger_> hi ivan
20:11:09 <anotherirc3r> heya Ivan
20:11:18 <anotherirc3r> i want shapes now. i could eat the whole packet
20:11:48 <IvanTheBastard> whats going on?
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20:13:01 <Tigger_> usually when I do get a packet of BBQ shapes I eat the entire packet
20:13:11 <Tigger_> in one session, that is
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20:14:20 <Lish> I just randomly vomitted
20:14:21 <Lish> Cool
20:15:12 <IvanTheBastard> gay
20:15:20 <Tigger_> why?
20:15:29 <anotherirc3r> you okay?
20:15:38 <Lish> Yeah seem ok now
20:15:40 <Lish> Dunno
20:15:50 <Tigger_> I like the way you left the channel to go and vomit
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20:15:57 <Lish> Just all of a sudden felt sick
20:16:06 <Lish> And just vomited hahaha
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20:16:26 <anotherirc3r> that sucks :/
20:16:38 <Lish> Back to eating my biscuits now
20:17:56 <Lish> http://imgur.com/8AMneQn
20:18:20 <anotherirc3r> lol shouldn't you be careful?
20:19:36 <Lish> Nah haha I'll be fine
20:19:53 <Tigger_> wow, they sure bring back memories
20:20:02 <Lish> They are so good
20:20:24 <anotherirc3r> we have those tick tock biscuits
20:20:24 <Tigger_> I probably haven't had them since I was a kid
20:20:25 <anotherirc3r> i love those
20:20:50 <Tigger_> I don't know tick tock biscuits
20:21:11 <Lish> Yeah tick tocks are good too
20:21:24 <anotherirc3r> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/de/9a/43/de9a430d486a07c333d02bbf21f0ddc5.jpg
20:22:11 <Tigger_> oh yeah, I hated them
20:22:17 <Tigger_> because the yellow
20:25:43 <Tigger_> I also liked Golliwog biscuits, but they changed the name to something more politically correct
20:26:11 <IvanTheBastard> racially neutral biscuits
20:26:21 <Tigger_> they changed the name to Scalliwags
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20:28:30 <Tigger_> China is moving quickly towards just such a system, in a Big Brother-style plan that will see everyone given a grade between 350 and 950.
20:28:30 <Tigger_> If you buy nappies or recycle, you get extra points for showing you are responsible. If you play video games and spend too much on clothes, you lose points. Your friends matter, too. If they have a poor financial record, it reflects badly on you.
20:28:30 <Tigger_> A low score will have serious consequences, making you ineligible for certain jobs and restricting in borrowing money, claiming benefits or finding housing.
20:28:30 <Tigger_> The “social credit” system is an extension of your credit rating at the bank, only it goes far beyond financial status. And it takes in people left out of traditional systems: students, low-income households and those who have never borrowed.
20:28:34 <Tigger_> The idea has been developing since 2003, and China’s government hopes it will be able to give a score to every individual, legal entity and organisation in the country by the end of 2017. The rating, issued along with identity cards, will initially be based on business records, tax payments, social security payments and traffic violations.
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20:30:07 <Tigger_> http://imgur.com/gallery/xygc39y
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20:33:59 <Warren1984> my feet are so sore
20:34:10 <Warren1984> blisters from walking too much
20:34:21 <Warren1984> it's pays off though
20:34:43 <Warren1984> Jen I don't know if I already told you, but I am 50% of the way through my course
20:34:55 <Warren1984> so there is no point in pulling out now
20:35:26 <Warren1984> and once I master the electronics of computers, it should make it a breeze next year
20:36:24 <Tigger_> how come you walked so much?
20:36:31 <anotherirc3r> yay Warren!
20:36:33 <anotherirc3r> good on you :)
20:38:38 <elly> interesting fact of the day: for every 1000V the arc jumps by 1mm
20:38:49 <elly> so 11kV (most common) is about a cm
20:39:09 <elly> in normal conditions with air
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20:46:49 <Tigger_> Scandal in China over the museum with 40,000 fake artefacts
20:46:50 <Tigger_> Jibaozhai Museum in Hebei closes amid internet ridicule because nearly all its artefacts alleged to be forgeries
20:46:51 <Tigger_> http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2013/jul/17/jibaozhai-museum-closed-fakes-china
20:47:30 <Warren1984> Tigger_ should study electronics
20:47:36 <Warren1984> to repair stuff around his house
20:47:36 <Tigger_> why?
20:47:46 <Warren1984> like his pool pump
20:47:53 <Tigger_> I don't have a pool though
20:48:05 <Warren1984> I thought you had a pool on top of your roof
20:49:16 <Tigger_> I will have to get one
20:49:39 <Tigger_> with a fence around it to stop Clip Clop climbing up and jumping in
20:50:18 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/stephen-hawking-talked-women-television-and-artificial-intelligence-during-his-ama-on-reddit/story-fnjwnhzf-1227563607750
20:50:32 <Warren1984> what if he wants to cool off
20:50:52 <Warren1984> what if Jen puts a crocodile in the pool when you are sleeping
20:51:19 <anotherirc3r> yes.. that's exactly what i planned
20:51:45 <Warren1984> Tigger_ instead of replacing something around the house
20:52:01 <Warren1984> if you learned electronics it might only cost you a few dollars to fix
20:52:05 <Warren1984> and restore it
20:52:24 <Tigger_> there's no point in fixing electronics, new models have better features
20:53:00 <Warren1984> engineers and mechanics usually don't throw old stuff away
20:53:10 <Warren1984> they like to tinker around with it
20:53:20 <Warren1984> pull it apart etc
20:53:54 <Warren1984> what about aircond motors
20:54:10 <Warren1984> washing machines
20:54:57 <Tigger_> get a 5 year extended warranty
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21:00:00 <xm> Lish, so you have to dabble in it?
21:00:00 <xm> i feel so sorry for you
21:01:00 <Lish> Not really
21:01:00 <Lish> But we have testers in our team
21:01:00 <xm> i see
21:01:00 <Lish> Sometimes we have to help them
21:01:00 <Lish> Or review their cases
21:01:00 <xm> it's always a good sign when a company has full-time testers
21:01:00 <xm> it's a bad idea to rely on your devs if it's a big project
21:01:00 <xm> tomorrow is friday
21:01:00 <xm> aint that fancy
21:01:00 <Lish> We have heaps of testers
21:02:00 <Lish> In our company
21:02:00 <Lish> Maybe 40+
21:02:00 <xm> crikey
21:02:00 <xm> that's a lot
21:02:00 <xm> just in your local division?
21:02:00 <Lish> Yeah
21:02:00 <Lish> We have more all over the world
21:02:00 <Lish> Probably half as many testers to devs
21:02:00 <Lish> Some with analysts
21:02:00 <xm> how many employees do you have in your local division alone?
21:02:00 <xm> maybe you can give skips a job in the networking department after all!
21:03:00 <xm> get skips to fix your printer toner
21:03:00 <Lish> Business and technology we have around 1000
21:03:00 <xm> that's an interesting ratio. 2:1 for devs to testers
21:03:00 <xm> i dont know much about how people go about testing but i thought it'd be 5:1
21:04:00 <Lish> Nah
21:04:00 <xm> i know at one point testers were making 70k a year (2010) for that kinda work
21:04:00 <Lish> Yeah probably still around the same
21:04:00 <Lish> I don't think it's gone up much
21:04:00 <Lish> There's a push away from manual testing to automated testin
21:04:00 <Lish> And using unit tests to cover a lot of it
21:05:00 <xm> yeah if you're doing web dev with Ruby On Rails you pretty much do testing and developing in intimate steps right after each other
21:05:00 <xm> but i didnt adhere to that properly
21:05:00 <xm> i spent more time developing
21:06:00 <xm> but once you do get automated testing going it's pretty cool
21:06:00 <xm> you can even automate javascript tests now
21:06:00 <xm> but it's very slow
21:06:00 <Lish> Yeah you can
21:07:00 <Lish> I'm having Ben and Jerry's ice cram
21:07:00 <Tigger_> I've never had that brand before
21:07:00 <Lish> Cotton candy flavour
21:07:00 <xm> i havent had sesame icecream for a while. i miss that
21:07:00 <Lish> It's American
21:08:00 <Tigger_> yeah, they are one of the (few) sponsors of Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign
21:08:00 <Lish> http://imgur.com/2iUg5d2
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21:09:00 <Tigger_> I'd probably like that a lot
21:09:00 <Lish> Yeah it's nice
21:09:00 <Lish> First time trying this one
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21:10:00 <Tigger_> how much are they?
21:11:00 <Lish> I dunno
21:11:00 <Lish> $4
21:11:00 <Lish> Maybe
21:11:00 <Tigger_> $4 is alright
21:11:00 <Lish> For 105g
21:11:00 <Tigger_> that's not much
21:11:00 <Lish> No it's a tiny little tub
21:11:00 <Lish> One serve
21:11:00 <Tigger_> I'd want 500g at least
21:11:00 <Lish> You can get bigger tubs
21:13:00 <Tigger_> a lot to try: http://www.benandjerry.com.au/flavours
21:13:00 <Lish> Yeah lol
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21:17:00 <Tigger_> though Baskin Robbins has more kiddy flavours like bubblegum that I like
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21:31:00 <Lish_> Oh my iPad must still b on in other room
21:31:00 <Lish_> Had to go lie down feeling very bad
21:31:18 <Lish_> Oh my iPad must still b on in other room
21:31:30 <Lish_> Had to go lie down feeling very bad
21:32:00 <anotherirc3r> did you vomit again?
21:32:37 <anotherirc3r> did you vomit again?
21:33:00 <ajnin> hello
21:33:00 <Tigger_> hi ajnin
21:33:00 <ajnin> how are we all tonight
21:33:00 <ajnin> Tigger_ sup
21:33:16 <ajnin> hello
21:33:46 <Tigger_> hi ajnin
21:33:47 <ajnin> how are we all tonight
21:33:52 <ajnin> Tigger_ sup
21:34:00 <Tigger_> lish is sick
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21:34:28 <Tigger_> lish is sick
21:35:00 <anotherirc3r> ajnin!
21:35:00 <ajnin> anotherirc3r Hello
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21:35:42 <anotherirc3r> ajnin!
21:35:52 <ajnin> anotherirc3r Hello
21:36:00 <anotherirc3r> how's you?!
21:36:00 <ajnin> I am gassed from Gym
21:36:00 <ajnin> and the burger I got after gym
21:36:00 <anotherirc3r> mmmm burger
21:36:00 <ajnin> and you ??????
21:36:27 <anotherirc3r> how's you?!
21:36:29 <ajnin> I am gassed from Gym
21:36:34 <ajnin> and the burger I got after gym
21:37:00 <anotherirc3r> mmmm burger
21:37:00 <ajnin> http://www.mandmburger.com.au/
21:37:02 <ajnin> and you ??????
21:37:33 <ajnin> http://www.mandmburger.com.au/
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21:38:00 <anotherirc3r> nooooo. it goes to eatnow and makes me want to order junk
21:38:00 <ajnin> lol
21:38:00 <ajnin> sorryh
21:38:00 <ajnin> so whats going on tonight ?
21:38:00 <ajnin> whats cracking
21:38:11 <anotherirc3r> nooooo. it goes to eatnow and makes me want to order junk
21:38:32 <ajnin> lol
21:38:44 <ajnin> sorryh
21:38:51 <ajnin> so whats going on tonight ?
21:38:55 <ajnin> whats cracking
21:39:00 <ajnin> I feel like going for a cruse!
21:39:00 <Tigger_> oh I thought they were going to be burgers with m&ms
21:39:00 <ajnin> Tigger_ I wish
21:39:00 <Tigger_> a cruise to where?
21:39:00 <ajnin> i had M&M nad bread!
21:39:00 <ajnin> Tigger_ the beach line I think
21:39:06 <ajnin> I feel like going for a cruse!
21:39:08 <Tigger_> oh I thought they were going to be burgers with m&ms
21:39:15 <ajnin> Tigger_ I wish
21:39:18 <Tigger_> a cruise to where?
21:39:23 <ajnin> i had M&M nad bread!
21:39:35 <ajnin> Tigger_ the beach line I think
21:40:00 <anotherirc3r> getting car back tomorrow!
21:40:00 <anotherirc3r> but still need damned roadworthy
21:40:23 <anotherirc3r> getting car back tomorrow!
21:40:28 <anotherirc3r> but still need damned roadworthy
21:41:00 <ajnin> anotherirc3r I have never meet a chick who loves her car as much as you
21:41:00 <ajnin> does it hold a special meaning for you ?
21:41:00 <ajnin> how did it get stacked ?
21:41:45 <ajnin> anotherirc3r I have never meet a chick who loves her car as much as you
21:41:51 <ajnin> does it hold a special meaning for you ?
21:41:56 <ajnin> how did it get stacked ?
21:42:00 <ajnin> also did you name it ?
21:42:10 <ajnin> also did you name it ?
21:43:00 <Tigger_> I used to know a girl who kissed her car goodbye every time she parked it, thinking it was going to get stolen and she'd never see it again
21:43:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> was it a BMW?
21:43:00 <ajnin> Tigger_ thats just a nut job
21:43:05 <Tigger_> I used to know a girl who kissed her car goodbye every time she parked it, thinking it was going to get stolen and she'd never see it again
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21:43:52 <Monsignor_Martinez> was it a BMW?
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21:44:00 <Tigger_> no, it was just some old Datsun
21:44:00 <anotherirc3r> ajnin: it was the family car. i am a sentimental fool
21:44:00 <ajnin> anotherirc3r nothing wrong with that
21:44:00 <ajnin> I still have an old family car
21:44:03 <ajnin> Tigger_ thats just a nut job
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21:44:38 <Tigger_> no, it was just some old Datsun
21:44:44 <anotherirc3r> ajnin: it was the family car. i am a sentimental fool
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21:44:53 <ajnin> anotherirc3r nothing wrong with that
21:45:00 <ajnin> I still have an old family car
21:45:00 <ajnin> my 1998 ford!
21:45:00 <anotherirc3r> nice!
21:45:00 <anotherirc3r> mine is a 1992
21:45:00 <ajnin> first car i ever drove really
21:45:00 <ajnin> anotherirc3r nice!!
21:45:00 <ajnin> mine has 398k
21:45:00 <ajnin> cant wait for the big 400k
21:45:03 <ajnin> my 1998 ford!
21:45:16 <anotherirc3r> nice!
21:45:21 <anotherirc3r> mine is a 1992
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21:45:27 <ajnin> first car i ever drove really
21:45:33 <ajnin> anotherirc3r nice!!
21:45:42 <ajnin> mine has 398k
21:45:50 <ajnin> cant wait for the big 400k
21:46:00 <anotherirc3r> mine had done nearly 400k
21:46:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> the first car I ever drove was a 1979 Mazda 323
21:46:00 <anotherirc3r> i got the engine rebuilt
21:46:00 <anotherirc3r> about a year ago
21:46:00 <ajnin> nice!!
21:46:00 <ajnin> also most chicks dont do that
21:46:00 <ajnin> so that in itself is cool
21:46:00 <anotherirc3r> i'm not a girly girl i guess lol
21:46:00 <anotherirc3r> i like my games
21:46:00 <ajnin> most chicks want to buzz around in a little Madza 3 or BMW 1 series
21:46:14 <anotherirc3r> mine had done nearly 400k
21:46:15 <Monsignor_Martinez> the first car I ever drove was a 1979 Mazda 323
21:46:18 <anotherirc3r> i got the engine rebuilt
21:46:24 <anotherirc3r> about a year ago
21:46:27 <ajnin> nice!!
21:46:32 <ajnin> also most chicks dont do that
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21:46:41 <ajnin> so that in itself is cool
21:46:57 <anotherirc3r> i'm not a girly girl i guess lol
21:46:59 <anotherirc3r> i like my games
21:47:00 <anotherirc3r> hell no. V6!
21:47:00 <ajnin> anotherirc3r you need to get yourself a friend with a v8
21:47:00 <ajnin> and go for a buzz in that :)
21:47:00 <anotherirc3r> yesssssss!
21:47:00 <ajnin> my ford is flat 6 :(
21:47:00 <anotherirc3r> i would love to
21:47:00 <anotherirc3r> a straight 6 is still pretty good
21:47:01 <ajnin> most chicks want to buzz around in a little Madza 3 or BMW 1 series
21:47:07 <anotherirc3r> hell no. V6!
21:47:24 <ajnin> anotherirc3r you need to get yourself a friend with a v8
21:47:31 <ajnin> and go for a buzz in that :)
21:47:49 <anotherirc3r> yesssssss!
21:47:51 <ajnin> my ford is flat 6 :(
21:47:53 <anotherirc3r> i would love to
21:48:00 <anotherirc3r> a straight 6 is still pretty good
21:48:00 <anotherirc3r> what's your make/model?
21:48:00 <ajnin> i have 2 cars
21:48:00 <ajnin> 1998 - Ford AU
21:48:00 <ajnin> 2012 - SS Hodlen commodore VE 6l v8
21:48:00 <anotherirc3r> falcon?
21:48:00 <anotherirc3r> ooooh.. V8!!!!
21:48:00 <ajnin> its a fairmont
21:48:04 <anotherirc3r> what's your make/model?
21:48:11 <ajnin> i have 2 cars
21:48:16 <ajnin> 1998 - Ford AU
21:48:43 <ajnin> 2012 - SS Hodlen commodore VE 6l v8
21:48:53 <anotherirc3r> falcon?
21:49:00 <anotherirc3r> ooooh.. V8!!!!
21:49:00 <ajnin> my ford is like my wife
21:49:00 <ajnin> and the v8 is like the hot chick who I take out on weekends
21:49:00 <ajnin> lol
21:49:00 <ajnin> thats an example.. I dont have a wife
21:49:00 <anotherirc3r> haha
21:49:03 <ajnin> its a fairmont
21:49:25 <ajnin> my ford is like my wife
21:49:37 <ajnin> and the v8 is like the hot chick who I take out on weekends
21:49:38 <ajnin> lol
21:49:52 <ajnin> thats an example.. I dont have a wife
21:49:57 <anotherirc3r> haha
21:50:00 <Warren1984> hey ajnin
21:50:00 <ajnin> i want to watch gone in 60 seconds now
21:50:00 <ajnin> Warren1984
21:50:00 <ajnin> its got a hot anjlina jollie steeling cars
21:50:00 <ajnin> lol
21:50:00 <anotherirc3r> she is damned purdy
21:50:17 <Warren1984> hey ajnin
21:50:23 <ajnin> i want to watch gone in 60 seconds now
21:50:26 <ajnin> Warren1984
21:50:39 <ajnin> its got a hot anjlina jollie steeling cars
21:50:39 <ajnin> lol
21:50:53 <anotherirc3r> she is damned purdy
21:51:00 <ajnin> whats purdy ?
21:51:05 <ajnin> whats purdy ?
21:52:00 <anotherirc3r> pretty
21:52:00 <ajnin> yea she is
21:52:00 <ajnin> in most things she looks good
21:52:00 <ajnin> not everything
21:52:00 <wolframhart> Just read about coke zero
21:52:00 <wolframhart> Its not bad
21:52:15 <anotherirc3r> pretty
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21:52:29 <ajnin> yea she is
21:52:35 <ajnin> in most things she looks good
21:52:40 <ajnin> not everything
21:52:43 <wolframhart> Just read about coke zero
21:52:53 <wolframhart> Its not bad
21:53:00 <ajnin> wolframhart all coke is bad
21:53:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: are you still studying?
21:53:08 <ajnin> wolframhart all coke is bad
21:53:31 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: are you still studying?
21:55:00 <wolframhart> Warren is studying
21:55:00 <Tigger_> Angelina Jolie should play the wicked witch if they ever remake Wizard of Oz
21:55:00 <wolframhart> Buthaving a breaknow
21:55:00 <wolframhart> So watchingbutt junkies
21:55:00 <anotherirc3r> i think Mila Kunis is stunning though
21:55:20 <wolframhart> Warren is studying
21:55:28 <Tigger_> Angelina Jolie should play the wicked witch if they ever remake Wizard of Oz
21:55:39 <wolframhart> Buthaving a breaknow
21:55:56 <wolframhart> So watchingbutt junkies
21:56:00 <anotherirc3r> even in green lol
21:56:00 <IvanTheBastard> hihi
21:56:00 <Tigger_> Mila Kunis is superior to Angelina Jolie
21:56:00 <anotherirc3r> yes!
21:56:01 <anotherirc3r> i think Mila Kunis is stunning though
21:56:15 <anotherirc3r> even in green lol
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21:56:41 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o IvanTheBastard
21:56:49 Mode: (by ChanOP) -o IvanTheBastard
21:56:52 <IvanTheBastard> hihi
21:56:58 <Tigger_> Mila Kunis is superior to Angelina Jolie
21:57:00 <anotherirc3r> she is beautiful
21:57:00 <anotherirc3r> heya Ivan
21:57:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> I literally feel asleep during Oz the Great and Powerful
21:57:00 <IvanTheBastard> hi sweety
21:57:00 <IvanTheBastard> wats goin on
21:57:00 <anotherirc3r> not much.. debating on drinking. you?
21:57:00 <Warren1984> [18:53] <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: are you still studying? <- yes
21:57:01 <anotherirc3r> yes!
21:57:04 <anotherirc3r> she is beautiful
21:57:08 <anotherirc3r> heya Ivan
21:57:15 <Monsignor_Martinez> I literally feel asleep during Oz the Great and Powerful
21:57:17 <IvanTheBastard> hi sweety
21:57:21 <IvanTheBastard> wats goin on
21:57:52 <anotherirc3r> not much.. debating on drinking. you?
21:57:52 <Warren1984> [18:53] <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: are you still studying? <- yes
21:58:00 <Tigger_> there was a terrible film called Black Swan a few years ago, and it starred Natalie Portman, Mila Kunis, and Wynona Ryder, all "it" girls of each decade, 90s, 2000s, 2010s
21:58:14 <Tigger_> there was a terrible film called Black Swan a few years ago, and it starred Natalie Portman, Mila Kunis, and Wynona Ryder, all "it" girls of each decade, 90s, 2000s, 2010s
21:59:00 <IvanTheBastard> hang on
21:59:00 <IvanTheBastard> you need to debate on drinking??
21:59:00 <Warren1984> i-banger do you want to come to my birthday party?
21:59:00 <IvanTheBastard> would be a pretty one sided debate
21:59:00 <anotherirc3r> haha
21:59:00 <anotherirc3r> i am thinking about it
21:59:00 <IvanTheBastard> 'Should i drink? Yes? Case closed'
21:59:00 <IvanTheBastard> its not good to drink by yourself tho
21:59:15 <IvanTheBastard> hang on
21:59:20 <IvanTheBastard> you need to debate on drinking??
21:59:25 <Warren1984> i-banger do you want to come to my birthday party?
21:59:31 <IvanTheBastard> would be a pretty one sided debate
21:59:35 <anotherirc3r> haha
21:59:38 <anotherirc3r> i am thinking about it
21:59:40 <IvanTheBastard> 'Should i drink? Yes? Case closed'
21:59:54 <IvanTheBastard> its not good to drink by yourself tho
22:00:00 <anotherirc3r> i can be lame if i want
22:00:46 <anotherirc3r> i can be lame if i want
22:01:00 <IvanTheBastard> unacceptable
22:01:45 <IvanTheBastard> unacceptable
22:02:00 <anotherirc3r> don't you want to come to Warren's Birthday party Ivan?
22:02:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> is xm around?
22:02:00 <IvanTheBastard> depends whats doing?
22:02:00 <IvanTheBastard> if its actually going to happen ill go
22:02:15 <anotherirc3r> don't you want to come to Warren's Birthday party Ivan?
22:02:30 <Monsignor_Martinez> is xm around?
22:02:33 <IvanTheBastard> depends whats doing?
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22:02:51 <IvanTheBastard> if its actually going to happen ill go
22:05:00 <anotherirc3r> you will?
22:05:00 <Tigger_> it is the longest discussed party ever
22:05:16 <anotherirc3r> you will?
22:05:32 <Tigger_> it is the longest discussed party ever
22:06:00 <IvanTheBastard> if its drinks at a nice bar somewhere ill go
22:06:00 <IvanTheBastard> if its like hanging out at warrens mums house i derno man.
22:06:00 <Tigger_> Sizzler is the venue I believe
22:06:05 <IvanTheBastard> if its drinks at a nice bar somewhere ill go
22:06:14 <IvanTheBastard> if its like hanging out at warrens mums house i derno man.
22:06:43 <Tigger_> Sizzler is the venue I believe
22:08:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> Sizzler is licensed
22:08:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> the drinks are cheaper than the salad bar
22:08:00 <IvanTheBastard> expensive for alcohol tho
22:08:00 <anotherirc3r> it has alcohol?
22:08:00 <anotherirc3r> never been there
22:08:00 <IvanTheBastard> actually thats a lie i dont think i've bought alcohol there before
22:08:00 <IvanTheBastard> i used to call it the poor mans buffet
22:08:00 <IvanTheBastard> but these days the salad bar is $30 for an adult i think
22:08:04 <Monsignor_Martinez> Sizzler is licensed
22:08:12 <Monsignor_Martinez> the drinks are cheaper than the salad bar
22:08:14 <IvanTheBastard> expensive for alcohol tho
22:08:23 <anotherirc3r> it has alcohol?
22:08:25 <anotherirc3r> never been there
22:08:29 <IvanTheBastard> actually thats a lie i dont think i've bought alcohol there before
22:08:47 <IvanTheBastard> i used to call it the poor mans buffet
22:08:56 <IvanTheBastard> but these days the salad bar is $30 for an adult i think
22:09:00 <Lish> Looks like I didn't miss much being sick
22:09:00 <IvanTheBastard> poor lishy what happen
22:09:00 <Lish> Ajnin and Jen talking about their bogan cars from the 90s
22:09:00 <anotherirc3r> good to have you back Lish lol
22:09:00 <Lish> Hahaha
22:09:00 <Tigger_> what's a non-bogan car?
22:09:09 <Lish> Looks like I didn't miss much being sick
22:09:23 <IvanTheBastard> poor lishy what happen
22:09:24 <Lish> Ajnin and Jen talking about their bogan cars from the 90s
22:09:24 <anotherirc3r> good to have you back Lish lol
22:09:28 <Lish> Hahaha
22:09:55 <Tigger_> what's a non-bogan car?
22:10:00 <Lish> Ivan; Dunn just got random sick
22:10:00 <Lish> I had bbq chicken for dinner maybe it was funny
22:10:00 <Lish> Although husband is ok
22:10:00 <Lish> Mazda 5 like me of course hahaha
22:10:04 <Lish> Ivan; Dunn just got random sick
22:10:11 <Lish> I had bbq chicken for dinner maybe it was funny
22:10:15 <Lish> Although husband is ok
22:10:25 <Lish> Mazda 5 like me of course hahaha
22:11:00 <IvanTheBastard> non-bogan car - anything NOT Ford or holden, the exception is Ford or Holden vehicles that are less than 2 years old
22:11:41 <IvanTheBastard> non-bogan car - anything NOT Ford or holden, the exception is Ford or Holden vehicles that are less than 2 years old
22:12:00 <anotherirc3r> i don't have a Ford or Holden!
22:12:00 <Lish> And even that's stretching it
22:12:00 <anotherirc3r> does Sizzler serve alcohol?
22:12:00 <doctor> yeah
22:12:00 <Lish> lol yes it's a restaurant
22:12:04 <anotherirc3r> i don't have a Ford or Holden!
22:12:07 <Lish> And even that's stretching it
22:12:52 <anotherirc3r> does Sizzler serve alcohol?
22:12:58 <doctor> yeah
22:13:00 <IvanTheBastard> yeah it does
22:13:00 <anotherirc3r> i've never been there!
22:13:00 <anotherirc3r> geeez lol
22:13:00 <Lish> It's not like McDonald lol
22:13:00 <anotherirc3r> McDonalds is known as a restaurant too Lish :P
22:13:00 <Lish> Haha
22:13:00 <Tigger_> routebee the muslim sold his house and bought some new 4WD or something, the vehicle depreciated rapidly, while the house market took off like a rocket
22:13:00 <Lish> I haven't been to sizzler since I was a kid
22:13:00 <Lish> They closed them down in nsw
22:13:00 <anotherirc3r> i used to go to Smorgys
22:13:01 <Lish> lol yes it's a restaurant
22:13:06 <IvanTheBastard> yeah it does
22:13:07 <anotherirc3r> i've never been there!
22:13:09 <anotherirc3r> geeez lol
22:13:10 <Lish> It's not like McDonald lol
22:13:20 <anotherirc3r> McDonalds is known as a restaurant too Lish :P
22:13:25 <Lish> Haha
22:13:36 <Tigger_> routebee the muslim sold his house and bought some new 4WD or something, the vehicle depreciated rapidly, while the house market took off like a rocket
22:13:45 <Lish> I haven't been to sizzler since I was a kid
22:13:53 <Lish> They closed them down in nsw
22:13:53 <anotherirc3r> i used to go to Smorgys
22:14:00 <Tigger_> I went about two years ago, it was pretty good still, but the prices are much higher
22:14:00 <Lish> Yeah it's like smeggys
22:14:00 <IvanTheBastard> there is still 3 in WA i think
22:14:00 <anotherirc3r> ahh, right
22:14:00 <anotherirc3r> wonder how much alcohol is
22:14:00 <doctor> theyre alright
22:14:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> Sizzler is a licensed restaurant. You can buy alcoholic beverages with a meal.
22:14:00 <doctor> bit pricey for what they offer
22:14:00 <Tigger_> get them to wheel you out a barrel of grog
22:14:15 <Tigger_> I went about two years ago, it was pretty good still, but the prices are much higher
22:14:15 <Lish> Yeah it's like smeggys
22:14:22 <IvanTheBastard> there is still 3 in WA i think
22:14:22 <anotherirc3r> ahh, right
22:14:27 <anotherirc3r> wonder how much alcohol is
22:14:49 <doctor> theyre alright
22:14:52 <Monsignor_Martinez> Sizzler is a licensed restaurant. You can buy alcoholic beverages with a meal.
22:14:55 <doctor> bit pricey for what they offer
22:15:00 <Lish> You shouldn't have alcohol at warrens birthday though
22:15:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> my guess, $6 for a glass of mid-strength beer
22:15:00 <Lish> He shouldn't be allowed near it
22:15:00 <IvanTheBastard> its not like hes going to drink my alcohol
22:15:00 <doctor> warren's not much of a drinker
22:15:00 <IvanTheBastard> i am quite capable of defending my alcoholic beverage
22:15:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
22:15:00 <Lish> Haha I guess if you're having a meal with warren and Ivan you might need alcohol
22:15:01 <Tigger_> get them to wheel you out a barrel of grog
22:15:13 <Lish> You shouldn't have alcohol at warrens birthday though
22:15:17 <Monsignor_Martinez> my guess, $6 for a glass of mid-strength beer
22:15:19 <Lish> He shouldn't be allowed near it
22:15:35 <IvanTheBastard> its not like hes going to drink my alcohol
22:15:41 <doctor> warren's not much of a drinker
22:15:43 <IvanTheBastard> i am quite capable of defending my alcoholic beverage
22:15:47 <anotherirc3r> lol
22:16:00 <Lish> Haha I guess if you're having a meal with warren and Ivan you might need alcohol
22:16:00 <doctor> i can like my alcohol a bit too much
22:16:00 <Lish> Try to forget it as early as possible
22:16:00 <anotherirc3r> hahaha Lish
22:16:00 <IvanTheBastard> LOLLL
22:16:00 <Lish> I'd rather noose myself
22:16:00 <anotherirc3r> Warren is a nice guy
22:16:00 <Lish> Wrong
22:16:00 <IvanTheBastard> sounds like someone is jelly
22:16:00 <anotherirc3r> why?
22:16:00 <IvanTheBastard> that they not gonna be there
22:16:00 <Tigger_> I am told that people think you're gay if you don't drink alcohol
22:16:00 <Lish> It's ok, I could be there if I wanted to
22:16:04 <doctor> i can like my alcohol a bit too much
22:16:06 <Lish> Try to forget it as early as possible
22:16:12 <anotherirc3r> hahaha Lish
22:16:12 <IvanTheBastard> LOLLL
22:16:21 <Lish> I'd rather noose myself
22:16:26 <anotherirc3r> Warren is a nice guy
22:16:35 <Lish> Wrong
22:16:38 <IvanTheBastard> sounds like someone is jelly
22:16:42 <anotherirc3r> why?
22:16:43 <IvanTheBastard> that they not gonna be there
22:16:57 <Tigger_> I am told that people think you're gay if you don't drink alcohol
22:16:59 <Lish> It's ok, I could be there if I wanted to
22:17:00 <IvanTheBastard> thats what all the jelly ppl who are going to miss out say
22:17:00 <Tigger_> go on a cruise to Perth, and stop off to go to Warren's birthday
22:17:00 <Lish> I'm going to drive to Perth sometime in the new year
22:17:00 <anotherirc3r> sounds expensive
22:17:00 <Tigger_> for real?
22:17:00 <Lish> Yah my husbands brother moved there
22:17:00 <Lish> And we want to take a road trip
22:17:14 <IvanTheBastard> thats what all the jelly ppl who are going to miss out say
22:17:16 <Tigger_> go on a cruise to Perth, and stop off to go to Warren's birthday
22:17:21 <Lish> I'm going to drive to Perth sometime in the new year
22:17:30 <anotherirc3r> sounds expensive
22:17:30 <Tigger_> for real?
22:17:41 <Lish> Yah my husbands brother moved there
22:17:55 <Lish> And we want to take a road trip
22:18:00 <Lish> But we shall see
22:18:00 <Lish> Maybe go to La instead hahaha
22:18:00 <Tigger_> why did he move there?
22:18:00 <anotherirc3r> yeah.. go drive to LA :P
22:18:00 <Lish> No chance of running into Ivan there
22:18:00 <Lish> For work tigger
22:18:00 <Tigger_> furtherest he could get away from you without drowning
22:18:00 <anotherirc3r> HAHA
22:18:22 <Lish> But we shall see
22:18:28 <Lish> Maybe go to La instead hahaha
22:18:32 <Tigger_> why did he move there?
22:18:37 <anotherirc3r> yeah.. go drive to LA :P
22:18:42 <Lish> No chance of running into Ivan there
22:18:45 <Lish> For work tigger
22:18:50 <Tigger_> furtherest he could get away from you without drowning
22:18:56 <anotherirc3r> HAHA
22:19:00 <IvanTheBastard> why the hate babe i thought we friend
22:19:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> Tigger_: the trick is to order a drink that looks like alcohol, like a glass of tonic water with plenty of ice
22:19:00 <IvanTheBastard> dissin me all nite
22:19:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> if anyone asks, just say it is a gin and tonic
22:19:00 <Lish> I love dissin you, you know it
22:19:00 <anotherirc3r> tonic water is actually nice
22:19:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> yep
22:19:00 <Tigger_> Monsignor_Martinez, I wouldn't be able to pull it off, since I know nothing about alcohol if I was asked a question
22:19:00 <Lish> Is doctor going to this party
22:19:08 <IvanTheBastard> why the hate babe i thought we friend
22:19:10 <Monsignor_Martinez> Tigger_: the trick is to order a drink that looks like alcohol, like a glass of tonic water with plenty of ice
22:19:12 <IvanTheBastard> dissin me all nite
22:19:17 <Monsignor_Martinez> if anyone asks, just say it is a gin and tonic
22:19:24 <Lish> I love dissin you, you know it
22:19:30 <anotherirc3r> tonic water is actually nice
22:19:41 <Monsignor_Martinez> yep
22:19:52 <Tigger_> Monsignor_Martinez, I wouldn't be able to pull it off, since I know nothing about alcohol if I was asked a question
22:19:52 <Lish> Is doctor going to this party
22:20:00 <anotherirc3r> awww.. now i want a gin and tonic
22:20:10 <anotherirc3r> awww.. now i want a gin and tonic
22:21:00 <Lish> Have one
22:21:00 <anotherirc3r> no gin.. or tonic lol
22:21:00 <Lish> Oh
22:21:00 <Lish> Have whatever you have at home then haha
22:21:19 <Lish> Have one
22:21:35 <anotherirc3r> no gin.. or tonic lol
22:21:55 <Lish> Oh
22:22:00 <Tigger_> yeah doctor will be there
22:22:00 <anotherirc3r> only got scotch and coke zero
22:22:00 <anotherirc3r> not sure i cbf
22:22:00 <Lish> Well if a respectable person like doctor is going it might not be too bad
22:22:01 <Lish> Have whatever you have at home then haha
22:22:05 <Tigger_> yeah doctor will be there
22:22:16 <anotherirc3r> only got scotch and coke zero
22:22:19 <anotherirc3r> not sure i cbf
22:22:45 <Lish> Well if a respectable person like doctor is going it might not be too bad
22:23:00 <anotherirc3r> lol you coming Lish?
22:23:00 <Lish> Nope
22:23:48 <anotherirc3r> lol you coming Lish?
22:23:57 <Lish> Nope
22:24:00 <Lish> I would punch warren in the face
22:24:00 <IvanTheBastard> LOL
22:24:00 <anotherirc3r> what do you have against him?!
22:24:00 <Lish> He's horrid
22:24:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984 is as harmless as a teddy bear
22:24:00 <Tigger_> he could explain electronics to you
22:24:00 <anotherirc3r> horrid? why?
22:24:00 <Lish> Hahaha he could but would I want him to?
22:24:14 <Lish> I would punch warren in the face
22:24:20 <IvanTheBastard> LOL
22:24:22 <anotherirc3r> what do you have against him?!
22:24:36 <Lish> He's horrid
22:24:46 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984 is as harmless as a teddy bear
22:24:51 <Tigger_> he could explain electronics to you
22:24:58 <anotherirc3r> horrid? why?
22:25:00 <Lish> He uses his retardation to just be evil
22:25:00 <anotherirc3r> has he been evil to you?
22:25:00 <Tigger_> he's not retarded
22:25:00 <Lish> Yeah he has Jen
22:25:00 <anotherirc3r> oh.. what did he say?
22:25:03 <Lish> Hahaha he could but would I want him to?
22:25:12 <Lish> He uses his retardation to just be evil
22:25:26 <anotherirc3r> has he been evil to you?
22:25:26 <Tigger_> he's not retarded
22:25:51 <Lish> Yeah he has Jen
22:26:00 <Lish> Tigger will back me on that
22:26:00 <Lish> I dunno he just randomly is evil
22:26:00 <Tigger_> mainly evil to renee
22:26:00 <Lish> In a stupid retarded way
22:26:00 <Lish> Renew deserves it
22:26:00 <Lish> She's gross
22:26:00 <Lish> I'm awesome
22:26:00 <anotherirc3r> who's Renee!?
22:26:00 <anotherirc3r> damn you oldschoolers
22:26:00 <Tigger_> friend of mine
22:26:00 <anotherirc3r> does she go on here?
22:26:00 <Tigger_> used to
22:26:00 <Lish> Tigers girlfriend
22:26:00 <Lish> With immense rage
22:26:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> she did, until lish scared her away
22:26:00 <Lish> Hahahahaha
22:26:01 <anotherirc3r> oh.. what did he say?
22:26:04 <Lish> Tigger will back me on that
22:26:10 <Lish> I dunno he just randomly is evil
22:26:13 <Tigger_> mainly evil to renee
22:26:16 <Lish> In a stupid retarded way
22:26:19 <Lish> Renew deserves it
22:26:21 <Lish> She's gross
22:26:23 <Lish> I'm awesome
22:26:25 <anotherirc3r> who's Renee!?
22:26:30 <anotherirc3r> damn you oldschoolers
22:26:30 <Tigger_> friend of mine
22:26:36 <anotherirc3r> does she go on here?
22:26:41 <Tigger_> used to
22:26:49 <Lish> Tigers girlfriend
22:26:57 <Lish> With immense rage
22:26:58 <Monsignor_Martinez> she did, until lish scared her away
22:27:00 <Tigger_> lol
22:27:00 <anotherirc3r> ohhh.. nickname?!
22:27:00 <Lish> I did no such thing
22:27:00 <Lish> Didn't warren tell her he was going to set her on fire
22:27:00 <Lish> And then she left
22:27:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> but for once I agree with lish. She was gross, and a filthy slut
22:27:00 <anotherirc3r> umm, no?
22:27:00 <IvanTheBastard> yeah i thought warren scared off renee
22:27:00 <Tigger_> renee did chuck a huge mental at lish, though lish was innocent in that instance
22:27:00 <anotherirc3r> haha 'in that instance'
22:27:02 <Lish> Hahahahaha
22:27:04 <Tigger_> lol
22:27:08 <anotherirc3r> ohhh.. nickname?!
22:27:11 <Lish> I did no such thing
22:27:20 <Lish> Didn't warren tell her he was going to set her on fire
22:27:22 <Lish> And then she left
22:27:30 <Monsignor_Martinez> but for once I agree with lish. She was gross, and a filthy slut
22:27:37 <anotherirc3r> umm, no?
22:27:47 <IvanTheBastard> yeah i thought warren scared off renee
22:27:51 <Tigger_> renee did chuck a huge mental at lish, though lish was innocent in that instance
22:28:00 <Lish> Haha 'in that instance'
22:28:00 <anotherirc3r> i'm not scared of Lish
22:28:00 <Lish> You would be if I wanted you to be Hahahaha
22:28:00 <Lish> You think nerdhacks is bad lol
22:28:00 <IvanTheBastard> lish is one of the best trolls on here when she wants to be
22:28:00 <Lish> :)
22:28:00 <Lish> I'm retired
22:28:00 <anotherirc3r> i'd be scared of you? really?
22:28:00 <IvanTheBastard> she's subtle with it tho
22:28:02 <anotherirc3r> haha 'in that instance'
22:28:04 <Lish> Haha 'in that instance'
22:28:06 <anotherirc3r> i'm not scared of Lish
22:28:21 <Lish> You would be if I wanted you to be Hahahaha
22:28:27 <Lish> You think nerdhacks is bad lol
22:28:28 <IvanTheBastard> lish is one of the best trolls on here when she wants to be
22:28:42 <Lish> :)
22:28:45 <Lish> I'm retired
22:28:58 <anotherirc3r> i'd be scared of you? really?
22:29:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ should come
22:29:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why won't you come?
22:29:00 <Lish> Haha yeah not scared
22:29:00 <anotherirc3r> i agree Tigger should come
22:29:00 <Tigger_> it's too far warren
22:29:00 <Lish> But you wouldn't like me
22:29:00 <Lish> Yes tigger you should attend this party's
22:29:00 <Tigger_> Clip Clop couldn't walk to Perth
22:29:00 <Lish> Warren, Jen doesn't think you are evil
22:29:00 <anotherirc3r> you were a bitch the other day Lish. i dealt with it :P
22:29:00 <Warren1984> Lish we will all be wearing KKK outfits when you come to my party
22:29:03 <IvanTheBastard> she's subtle with it tho
22:29:04 <Warren1984> Tigger_ should come
22:29:11 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why won't you come?
22:29:12 <Lish> Haha yeah not scared
22:29:18 <anotherirc3r> i agree Tigger should come
22:29:20 <Tigger_> it's too far warren
22:29:24 <Lish> But you wouldn't like me
22:29:32 <Lish> Yes tigger you should attend this party's
22:29:37 <Tigger_> Clip Clop couldn't walk to Perth
22:29:39 <Lish> Warren, Jen doesn't think you are evil
22:29:43 <anotherirc3r> you were a bitch the other day Lish. i dealt with it :P
22:29:52 <Warren1984> Lish we will all be wearing KKK outfits when you come to my party
22:30:00 <Lish> Hahahaha yeah that's nothing, just a poke :P
22:30:00 <Lish> Why warren?
22:30:00 <Tigger_> lish won't be bringing her husband though
22:30:00 <Warren1984> to scare your husband
22:30:00 <Lish> Hahaha Ivan would be there, I would def leave my husband at home
22:30:19 <Lish> Hahahaha yeah that's nothing, just a poke :P
22:30:22 <Lish> Why warren?
22:30:32 <Tigger_> lish won't be bringing her husband though
22:30:35 <Warren1984> to scare your husband
22:30:56 <Lish> Hahaha Ivan would be there, I would def leave my husband at home
22:31:00 <Warren1984> see it's a be hard for me to invite everybody, without knowing you prior
22:31:00 <Lish> Also that's not nice warren
22:31:00 <anotherirc3r> agreed. Warren should be nice
22:31:00 <Warren1984> it was a joke Lish
22:31:00 <IvanTheBastard> lish how naughty of you
22:31:00 <Warren1984> but the other day you were talking about divorcing him
22:31:00 <anotherirc3r> why? what did Ivan do? lol
22:31:00 <Lish> Hahahah true warren
22:31:00 <Lish> I was going to divorce him
22:31:00 <Warren1984> I am nice
22:31:00 <Lish> It'll happen one day
22:31:00 <Warren1984> just have a weird sense of humor
22:31:04 <Warren1984> see it's a be hard for me to invite everybody, without knowing you prior
22:31:05 <Lish> Also that's not nice warren
22:31:16 <anotherirc3r> agreed. Warren should be nice
22:31:16 <Warren1984> it was a joke Lish
22:31:23 <IvanTheBastard> lish how naughty of you
22:31:27 <Warren1984> but the other day you were talking about divorcing him
22:31:35 <anotherirc3r> why? what did Ivan do? lol
22:31:39 <Lish> Hahahah true warren
22:31:46 <Lish> I was going to divorce him
22:31:50 <Warren1984> I am nice
22:31:50 <Lish> It'll happen one day
22:31:59 <Warren1984> just have a weird sense of humor
22:32:00 <Warren1984> that most don't understand
22:32:00 <Lish> Hahaha sometimes it's misplaced warren
22:32:00 <Lish> We spoke about that before
22:32:00 <Lish> But it's ok, I'll tell you to shutup when you annoy me. And you'll ignore me, and we'll be sweet
22:32:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why not take your 4wd to perth
22:32:04 <Warren1984> that most don't understand
22:32:14 <Lish> Hahaha sometimes it's misplaced warren
22:32:19 <Lish> We spoke about that before
22:32:41 <Lish> But it's ok, I'll tell you to shutup when you annoy me. And you'll ignore me, and we'll be sweet
22:32:53 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why not take your 4wd to perth
22:33:00 <Tigger_> I don't have a 4WD, only Clip Clop
22:33:06 <Tigger_> I don't have a 4WD, only Clip Clop
22:35:00 <Lish> lol
22:35:36 <Lish> lol
22:37:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: I have a fun challenge for you.
22:37:36 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: I have a fun challenge for you.
22:38:00 <Warren1984> what is it Monsignor_Martinez
22:38:57 <Warren1984> what is it Monsignor_Martinez
22:39:00 <Warren1984> where is xm?
22:39:27 <Warren1984> where is xm?
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22:43:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: I want you to design a simple power supply for me. Use an LT3010 LDO ( see: http://www.linear.com/product/LT3010 ) to output 1V8 from an input voltage of say, 9V
22:43:00 <anotherirc3r> isn't Monsignor_Martinez xm?
22:43:00 <anotherirc3r> hehe
22:43:13 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: I want you to design a simple power supply for me. Use an LT3010 LDO ( see: http://www.linear.com/product/LT3010 ) to output 1V8 from an input voltage of say, 9V
22:43:24 <anotherirc3r> isn't Monsignor_Martinez xm?
22:43:25 <anotherirc3r> hehe
22:44:00 <Tigger_> wb lish
22:44:00 <anotherirc3r> wb
22:44:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> hmm 9V is not very practical, but we can ignore the thermal characteristics of the LDO for the time being
22:44:00 <Lish> Ta got carried away reading Facebook
22:44:00 <Lish> Left this closed too long
22:44:00 <anotherirc3r> it is pretty exciting
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22:44:12 <Tigger_> wb lish
22:44:23 <anotherirc3r> wb
22:44:27 <Monsignor_Martinez> hmm 9V is not very practical, but we can ignore the thermal characteristics of the LDO for the time being
22:44:40 <Lish> Ta got carried away reading Facebook
22:44:46 <Lish> Left this closed too long
22:44:47 <anotherirc3r> it is pretty exciting
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22:45:00 <Lish> Yep yep
22:45:33 <Lish> Yep yep
22:46:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: This challenge is good way to test yourself and apply your knowledge of electronics.
22:46:00 <Tigger_> a lie, nothing on facebook is exciting
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22:46:22 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: This challenge is good way to test yourself and apply your knowledge of electronics.
22:46:33 <Tigger_> a lie, nothing on facebook is exciting
22:47:00 <Lish> lol
22:47:00 <Warren1984> [19:43] <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: I want you to design a simple power supply for me. Use an LT3010 LDO ( see: http://www.linear.com/product/LT3010 ) to output 1V8 from an input voltage of say, 9V <- don't know much about this to answer your question
22:47:20 <Lish> lol
22:47:43 <Warren1984> [19:43] <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: I want you to design a simple power supply for me. Use an LT3010 LDO ( see: http://www.linear.com/product/LT3010 ) to output 1V8 from an input voltage of say, 9V <- don't know much about this to answer your question
22:48:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> you will need to refer to the datasheet
22:48:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> but take a look at the schematic of the 5V reference application
22:48:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> you should recognise most of the components
22:48:13 <Monsignor_Martinez> you will need to refer to the datasheet
22:48:51 <Monsignor_Martinez> but take a look at the schematic of the 5V reference application
22:49:00 <Warren1984> so in layman terms you want me to build a transformer to turn 9v into 1,800 volts?
22:49:01 <Monsignor_Martinez> you should recognise most of the components
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22:49:44 <Warren1984> so in layman terms you want me to build a transformer to turn 9v into 1,800 volts?
22:51:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> no, I want you to use a linear regulator to turn 9V into 1.8V (1V8 is just how we represent 1.8V)
22:51:00 <Tigger_> this is most interesting, I just downloaded "Little Fugitive (1953)(1080p)(x264)(BluRay).mkv", and it turns out that the writer/director wrote a book that I read when I was 8 years old called "Danny Dunn and the Homework Machine"
22:51:38 <Monsignor_Martinez> no, I want you to use a linear regulator to turn 9V into 1.8V (1V8 is just how we represent 1.8V)
22:51:38 <Tigger_> this is most interesting, I just downloaded "Little Fugitive (1953)(1080p)(x264)(BluRay).mkv", and it turns out that the writer/director wrote a book that I read when I was 8 years old called "Danny Dunn and the Homework Machine"
22:52:00 <Warren1984> I have no idea what a regulator is
22:52:00 <Warren1984> and why does it need to be linear and not non-linear
22:52:00 <anotherirc3r> in Lish's words.. 'this is boring'
22:52:11 <Warren1984> I have no idea what a regulator is
22:52:48 <Warren1984> and why does it need to be linear and not non-linear
22:52:58 <anotherirc3r> in Lish's words.. 'this is boring'
22:53:00 <Warren1984> lol Jen
22:53:09 <Warren1984> lol Jen
22:54:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, if your teacher starts talking about regulators, say "You don't regulate Warren1984, Warren1984 regulates you!"
22:54:00 <anotherirc3r> hahaha
22:54:00 <Warren1984> lol Tigger_
22:54:21 <Tigger_> Warren1984, if your teacher starts talking about regulators, say "You don't regulate Warren1984, Warren1984 regulates you!"
22:54:32 <anotherirc3r> hahaha
22:55:00 <anotherirc3r> ugh
22:55:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: a linear regulator steps a voltage down by converting the waste energy into heat.
22:55:00 <anotherirc3r> FB makes me want to stab myself in the eye
22:55:00 <Tigger_> why?
22:55:00 <Warren1984> yeah but I haven't learned about regulators yet
22:55:01 <Warren1984> lol Tigger_
22:55:06 <anotherirc3r> ugh
22:55:12 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: a linear regulator steps a voltage down by converting the waste energy into heat.
22:55:23 <anotherirc3r> FB makes me want to stab myself in the eye
22:55:59 <Tigger_> why?
22:56:00 <Warren1984> not sure if I will
22:56:00 <Warren1984> why Jen
22:56:00 <Warren1984> that means it's inefficient Monsignor_Martinez
22:56:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> correct
22:56:00 <Warren1984> heat is waste
22:56:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> yes
22:56:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> now you are getting it
22:56:00 <Warren1984> the human ear is non-linear
22:56:02 <Warren1984> yeah but I haven't learned about regulators yet
22:56:06 <Warren1984> not sure if I will
22:56:14 <Warren1984> why Jen
22:56:31 <Warren1984> that means it's inefficient Monsignor_Martinez
22:56:40 <Monsignor_Martinez> correct
22:56:42 <Warren1984> heat is waste
22:56:46 <Monsignor_Martinez> yes
22:56:49 <Monsignor_Martinez> now you are getting it
22:57:00 <Warren1984> the human ear is non-linear
22:57:00 <Warren1984> so that would be something different
22:57:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> so when efficiency is a concern, you would choose a switching regulator
22:57:00 <anotherirc3r> "It's always an experience going to a country pub in the afternoon. We met an interesting character called Col, who apart from being a mostly drunk regular was most pleased to see us so happy together. Much drunk advice from him about holding on to each other later... He and Sam played a game of pool before we called it a night.
22:57:00 <anotherirc3r> Thanks Col, especially for telling me about how Sam looks at me smile emoticon I'll definitely be following your advice on holding on to her!"
22:57:00 <anotherirc3r> *vom*
22:57:00 <Warren1984> still have no idea of what a regulator is
22:57:19 <Warren1984> so that would be something different
22:57:38 <Monsignor_Martinez> so when efficiency is a concern, you would choose a switching regulator
22:57:41 <anotherirc3r> "It's always an experience going to a country pub in the afternoon. We met an interesting character called Col, who apart from being a mostly drunk regular was most pleased to see us so happy together. Much drunk advice from him about holding on to each other later... He and Sam played a game of pool before we called it a night.
22:57:41 <anotherirc3r> Thanks Col, especially for telling me about how Sam looks at me smile emoticon I'll definitely be following your advice on holding on to her!"
22:57:44 <anotherirc3r> *vom*
22:57:59 <Warren1984> still have no idea of what a regulator is
22:58:00 <Warren1984> other than something that manages voltage
22:58:00 <Tigger_> is this facebook retardedness?
22:58:00 <anotherirc3r> yes Tigger
22:58:00 <Warren1984> but I need a more elaborate explanation
22:58:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> think of it like this: a regulator is like a transformer that manages DC voltages
22:58:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> remember transformers are only useful for AC voltages
22:58:11 <Warren1984> other than something that manages voltage
22:58:19 <Tigger_> is this facebook retardedness?
22:58:26 <anotherirc3r> yes Tigger
22:58:28 <Warren1984> but I need a more elaborate explanation
22:58:36 <Monsignor_Martinez> think of it like this: a regulator is like a transformer that manages DC voltages
22:58:49 <Monsignor_Martinez> remember transformers are only useful for AC voltages
22:59:00 <Lish> You have retarded Facebook friends, how are your friends fave books fault
22:59:00 <Warren1984> yeah I know that
22:59:00 <Warren1984> ahh that makes more sense Monsignor_Martinez
22:59:00 <anotherirc3r> hahaha Lish
22:59:00 <anotherirc3r> that's a fair point
22:59:00 <Lish> lol
22:59:11 <Lish> You have retarded Facebook friends, how are your friends fave books fault
22:59:11 <Warren1984> yeah I know that
22:59:24 <Warren1984> ahh that makes more sense Monsignor_Martinez
22:59:27 <anotherirc3r> hahaha Lish
22:59:34 <anotherirc3r> that's a fair point
22:59:38 <Lish> lol
23:00:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: have you covered zener diodes?
23:00:00 <Warren1984> don't think so
23:00:00 <Tigger_> it's a bit late now, but one good rule is if any facebook friend did the rainbow filter thing for their photo, delete them
23:00:00 <Lish> Hahaha
23:00:00 <Lish> Loser
23:00:00 <Warren1984> I know the primary purpose of a diode is to convert ac to dc
23:00:17 <Monsignor_Martinez> Warren1984: have you covered zener diodes?
23:00:28 <Warren1984> don't think so
23:00:30 <Tigger_> it's a bit late now, but one good rule is if any facebook friend did the rainbow filter thing for their photo, delete them
23:00:42 <Lish> Hahaha
23:00:44 <Lish> Loser
23:00:50 <Warren1984> I know the primary purpose of a diode is to convert ac to dc
23:01:00 <anotherirc3r> i like that idea
23:01:00 <Warren1984> I wonder why they don't make it more simple
23:01:00 <Warren1984> ac transformer and dc transformer
23:01:00 <Warren1984> how does a relay work?
23:01:17 <anotherirc3r> i like that idea
23:01:22 <Warren1984> I wonder why they don't make it more simple
23:01:32 <Warren1984> ac transformer and dc transformer
23:01:57 <Warren1984> how does a relay work?
23:02:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> relay is just an electro-mechanical switch
23:02:00 <Warren1984> does every load require a resistor?
23:02:14 <Monsignor_Martinez> relay is just an electro-mechanical switch
23:02:39 <Warren1984> does every load require a resistor?
23:03:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> no, you can have capacitive, or even inductive loads
23:03:33 <Monsignor_Martinez> no, you can have capacitive, or even inductive loads
23:04:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> a resistor is normally used to model a simple load
23:04:00 <Warren1984> capacitor stores energy and gets drained
23:04:00 <Warren1984> inductor introduces current slowly, until the full amount of current pours through
23:04:09 <Monsignor_Martinez> a resistor is normally used to model a simple load
23:04:11 <Warren1984> capacitor stores energy and gets drained
23:04:51 <Warren1984> inductor introduces current slowly, until the full amount of current pours through
23:05:00 <Warren1984> if you connect spot lights to a car without a resistor wouldn't they blow?
23:05:54 <Warren1984> if you connect spot lights to a car without a resistor wouldn't they blow?
23:06:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> only if they are LED spot lights, if such a thing exists
23:06:37 <Monsignor_Martinez> only if they are LED spot lights, if such a thing exists
23:07:00 <Warren1984> ahh because of the required voltage drop
23:07:00 <Warren1984> the resistor drops voltage in series
23:07:00 <Warren1984> so a white LED would be 3.6 V
23:07:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> the resistor limits the current that flows through the LED
23:07:09 <Warren1984> ahh because of the required voltage drop
23:07:25 <Warren1984> the resistor drops voltage in series
23:07:38 <Warren1984> so a white LED would be 3.6 V
23:07:44 <Monsignor_Martinez> the resistor limits the current that flows through the LED
23:08:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> too much current will cause the LED to fry
23:08:00 <Warren1984> which means 12 volts - 3,6 volts = 8.4
23:08:00 <Warren1984> a resistor would need to drop the voltage by 8.4 volts
23:08:00 <Warren1984> on a 12 volt battery
23:08:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> this is great
23:08:17 <Monsignor_Martinez> too much current will cause the LED to fry
23:08:22 <Warren1984> which means 12 volts - 3,6 volts = 8.4
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23:08:45 <Warren1984> a resistor would need to drop the voltage by 8.4 volts
23:08:50 <Warren1984> on a 12 volt battery
23:08:59 <Monsignor_Martinez> this is great
23:09:00 <Warren1984> I reckon you could get LED spot lights
23:09:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> _I_ get to spam the channel with crap no one else wants to hear for a change
23:09:00 <Warren1984> but they would be very expensive
23:09:00 <shugenja> anyone here remember ausphreak?
23:09:00 <Warren1984> they use LEDs in Perth on some street lights
23:09:00 <Warren1984> like near the airport
23:09:19 <Warren1984> I reckon you could get LED spot lights
23:09:20 <Monsignor_Martinez> _I_ get to spam the channel with crap no one else wants to hear for a change
23:09:35 <Warren1984> but they would be very expensive
23:09:37 <shugenja> anyone here remember ausphreak?
23:09:58 <Warren1984> they use LEDs in Perth on some street lights
23:10:00 <Warren1984> LED street lights
23:10:00 <not-a-girl> hey shugenja
23:10:00 <not-a-girl> long time no see
23:10:00 <not-a-girl> yes, i remember it
23:10:00 <not-a-girl> and also crocodile wrestling, which ajnin here was also in
23:10:00 <Tigger_> LED streetlights must be powerful?
23:10:03 <Warren1984> like near the airport
23:10:12 <Warren1984> LED street lights
23:10:35 <not-a-girl> hey shugenja
23:10:38 <not-a-girl> long time no see
23:10:41 <not-a-girl> yes, i remember it
23:10:51 <not-a-girl> and also crocodile wrestling, which ajnin here was also in
23:11:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> I attended a seminar on intelligent street lights, of all things
23:11:00 <Warren1984> yeah Tigger_
23:11:00 <Warren1984> but must be extremely expensive
23:11:00 <Warren1984> I notice the lights are much closer to the road
23:11:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> they were experimenting with street lights that only turn on when they are needed
23:11:01 <Tigger_> LED streetlights must be powerful?
23:11:12 <Monsignor_Martinez> I attended a seminar on intelligent street lights, of all things
23:11:24 <Warren1984> yeah Tigger_
23:11:31 <Warren1984> but must be extremely expensive
23:11:45 <Warren1984> I notice the lights are much closer to the road
23:11:58 <Monsignor_Martinez> they were experimenting with street lights that only turn on when they are needed
23:12:00 <Warren1984> the sodium vapour lights are still the most popular
23:12:00 <not-a-girl> im reading schematics with LEDs in them for work right now
23:12:00 <not-a-girl> red LEDs are the cheapest, blue is the most expensive. you'd think they'd all cost the same
23:12:00 <Warren1984> clip clop emits sodium vapour when he farts
23:12:00 <not-a-girl> lol
23:12:00 <anotherirc3r> maybe if i drink this will be exciting
23:12:06 <Warren1984> the sodium vapour lights are still the most popular
23:12:16 <not-a-girl> im reading schematics with LEDs in them for work right now
23:12:36 <not-a-girl> red LEDs are the cheapest, blue is the most expensive. you'd think they'd all cost the same
23:12:45 <Warren1984> clip clop emits sodium vapour when he farts
23:12:50 <not-a-girl> lol
23:12:52 <anotherirc3r> maybe if i drink this will be exciting
23:13:00 <Warren1984> electrically charges particules of poo
23:13:05 <Warren1984> electrically charges particules of poo
23:14:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you should blow a capacitor up
23:14:00 <Warren1984> there exciting to watch
23:14:00 <Tigger_> the police and army would be around quick smart thinking that I'm a terrorist
23:14:12 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you should blow a capacitor up
23:14:19 <Warren1984> there exciting to watch
23:14:48 <Tigger_> the police and army would be around quick smart thinking that I'm a terrorist
23:15:00 <not-a-girl> Warren1984: you know which time of the week you should be blowin g up capacitors?
23:15:00 <not-a-girl> Faraday
23:15:00 <not-a-girl> so lame i know
23:15:00 <not-a-girl> i couldnt resistor
23:15:00 <not-a-girl> im a dad it's true
23:15:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> oh dear
23:15:07 <not-a-girl> Warren1984: you know which time of the week you should be blowin g up capacitors?
23:15:17 <not-a-girl> Faraday
23:15:33 <not-a-girl> so lame i know
23:15:39 <not-a-girl> i couldnt resistor
23:15:44 <not-a-girl> im a dad it's true
23:15:46 <Monsignor_Martinez> oh dear
23:16:00 <shugenja> not-a-girl, hi. :)
23:16:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/world/one-person-dead-and-three-wounded-in-a-shooting-northern-arizona-university-in-flagstaff/story-fndir2ev-1227564022059
23:16:00 <not-a-girl> shugenja: i remember your cool sight where you saw an alien-like beast and fought it
23:16:00 <not-a-girl> site*
23:16:00 <Warren1984> lol not-a-girl
23:16:00 <shugenja> prom?!
23:16:00 <not-a-girl> nope
23:16:00 <not-a-girl> xm. but no one remembers me
23:16:07 <shugenja> not-a-girl, hi. :)
23:16:28 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/world/one-person-dead-and-three-wounded-in-a-shooting-northern-arizona-university-in-flagstaff/story-fndir2ev-1227564022059
23:16:32 <not-a-girl> shugenja: i remember your cool sight where you saw an alien-like beast and fought it
23:16:36 <not-a-girl> site*
23:16:42 <Warren1984> lol not-a-girl
23:16:52 <shugenja> prom?!
23:17:00 <not-a-girl> nope
23:17:00 <anotherirc3r> oh, sorry xmendo
23:17:00 <shugenja> oh. i remember yo, xm.
23:17:00 <anotherirc3r> i thought you were Monsignor_Martinez
23:17:00 <anotherirc3r> who is Monsignor_Martinez then!?
23:17:00 <not-a-girl> oh lovely shugenja !
23:17:00 <not-a-girl> well im gonna chill to some lovely music and do some reading
23:17:03 <not-a-girl> xm. but no one remembers me
23:17:19 <anotherirc3r> oh, sorry xmendo
23:17:22 <shugenja> oh. i remember yo, xm.
23:17:23 <anotherirc3r> i thought you were Monsignor_Martinez
23:17:26 <anotherirc3r> who is Monsignor_Martinez then!?
23:17:30 <not-a-girl> oh lovely shugenja !
23:18:00 <not-a-girl> bbl
23:18:00 <shugenja> i even remember you visiting the deepest recesses of undernet.
23:18:00 <Warren1984> time to get some red rooster
23:18:00 <Warren1984> bbl
23:18:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> strange, I'm normally mistaken for Ozone
23:18:03 <not-a-girl> well im gonna chill to some lovely music and do some reading
23:18:04 <not-a-girl> bbl
23:18:05 <shugenja> i even remember you visiting the deepest recesses of undernet.
23:18:51 <Warren1984> time to get some red rooster
23:18:53 <Warren1984> bbl
23:19:01 <Monsignor_Martinez> strange, I'm normally mistaken for Ozone
23:21:00 <anotherirc3r> who are you then Monsignor_Martinez?
23:21:00 <Tigger_> DIRECTOR Ridley Scott has been slammed for whitewashing Asian characters in his sci-fi blockbuster The Martian.
23:21:00 <Tigger_> Whitewashing is the practice of casting white actors in roles originally written for non-white characters.
23:21:00 <Tigger_> Starring Matt Damon, the The Martian cast white actress Mackenzie Davis and black actor Chiwetel Ejiofor as characters identified as Asian in the book which the film is adapted from. Guy Aoki, Founding President of the Media Action Network for Asian Americans (MANAA), said the film should be barred from receiving awards for its “racist” casting.
23:21:00 <Tigger_> MANAA, what a great name
23:21:32 <anotherirc3r> who are you then Monsignor_Martinez?
23:21:49 <Tigger_> DIRECTOR Ridley Scott has been slammed for whitewashing Asian characters in his sci-fi blockbuster The Martian.
23:21:49 <Tigger_> Whitewashing is the practice of casting white actors in roles originally written for non-white characters.
23:21:49 <Tigger_> Starring Matt Damon, the The Martian cast white actress Mackenzie Davis and black actor Chiwetel Ejiofor as characters identified as Asian in the book which the film is adapted from. Guy Aoki, Founding President of the Media Action Network for Asian Americans (MANAA), said the film should be barred from receiving awards for its “racist” casting.
23:22:00 <anotherirc3r> eh.. looks boring
23:22:04 <Tigger_> MANAA, what a great name
23:22:28 <anotherirc3r> eh.. looks boring
23:23:00 <shugenja> Jen, as boring as... watching paint dry?
23:23:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> I get the impression that The Martian is a version of Gravity...on Mars
23:23:00 <shugenja> sorry, but that was an in-joke
23:23:00 <anotherirc3r> who are you and how do you know my name?
23:23:04 <shugenja> Jen, as boring as... watching paint dry?
23:23:37 <Monsignor_Martinez> I get the impression that The Martian is a version of Gravity...on Mars
23:23:55 <shugenja> sorry, but that was an in-joke
23:23:55 <anotherirc3r> who are you and how do you know my name?
23:24:00 <shugenja> the logs will tell you
23:24:00 <shugenja> i've been here for basically a week
23:24:20 <shugenja> the logs will tell you
23:24:51 <shugenja> i've been here for basically a week
23:25:00 <Lish> The Martian was good
23:25:00 <shugenja> but we chatted oct 2004
23:25:00 <anotherirc3r> right.. is that your usual nickname?
23:25:08 <Lish> The Martian was good
23:25:10 <shugenja> but we chatted oct 2004
23:25:49 <anotherirc3r> right.. is that your usual nickname?
23:26:00 <shugenja> you are (or were) a stand up gun totin chick
23:26:00 <shugenja> for the life of me, i don't recall my old nick
23:26:06 <shugenja> you are (or were) a stand up gun totin chick
23:26:32 <shugenja> for the life of me, i don't recall my old nick
23:27:00 <Monsignor_Martinez> if Ridley Scott casted a black actor in place of an Asian character, then it isn't really white-washing
23:27:35 <Monsignor_Martinez> if Ridley Scott casted a black actor in place of an Asian character, then it isn't really white-washing
23:28:00 <Tigger_> well one asian was swapped for a white, and another for a black, so greywashing
23:29:00 <Tigger_> well one asian was swapped for a white, and another for a black, so greywashing
23:29:00 <shugenja> THE GREY RACE!!
23:29:33 <shugenja> THE GREY RACE!!
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23:30:00 <Tigger_> to please everyone they need to have a Kalahari bushman as the head of NASA, a muslim lesbian as the astronaut, etc.
23:30:13 <Tigger_> to please everyone they need to have a Kalahari bushman as the head of NASA, a muslim lesbian as the astronaut, etc.
23:33:00 <not-a-girl> then NASA's machine will become one to find out where that Coke bottle from the sky fell from
23:33:00 <not-a-girl> (reference to God's must be crazy)
23:33:00 <not-a-girl> i know you havent seen it Tigger_
23:33:00 <Warren1984> red rooster and a 6 pack of jim beam and cola
23:33:00 <not-a-girl> it's a great movie, all the Africans act perfectly. it's like a documentary
23:33:00 <Tigger_> I got the reference though
23:33:00 <anotherirc3r> you're drinking Warren?!
23:33:00 <Tigger_> I'll see it when it's on bluray
23:33:16 <not-a-girl> then NASA's machine will become one to find out where that Coke bottle from the sky fell from
23:33:24 <not-a-girl> (reference to God's must be crazy)
23:33:29 <not-a-girl> i know you havent seen it Tigger_
23:33:40 <Warren1984> red rooster and a 6 pack of jim beam and cola
23:33:48 <not-a-girl> it's a great movie, all the Africans act perfectly. it's like a documentary
23:33:49 <Tigger_> I got the reference though
23:33:53 <anotherirc3r> you're drinking Warren?!
23:34:00 <Warren1984> yeah why not Jen
23:34:00 <not-a-girl> btw Tigger_ someone told me i have an uncanny ability to remember random details from most conversations
23:34:00 <not-a-girl> people have told me that online but i never thought much of it, but a real life person told me that
23:34:00 <Tigger_> what sort of random details?
23:34:01 <Tigger_> I'll see it when it's on bluray
23:34:19 <Warren1984> yeah why not Jen
23:34:22 <not-a-girl> btw Tigger_ someone told me i have an uncanny ability to remember random details from most conversations
23:34:47 <not-a-girl> people have told me that online but i never thought much of it, but a real life person told me that
23:35:00 <not-a-girl> pretty much anything from work
23:35:00 <Tigger_> everything but the important bits
23:35:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ knock down a block of Jim beam
23:35:00 <not-a-girl> i cant recall an entire conversation from the spot but if i am given a little bit of something then i can recall all things related to that
23:35:00 <not-a-girl> if you know what i mean
23:35:00 <Tigger_> Warren1984, drinking alcohol is very sinful, I don't want to burn in Hell forever
23:35:01 <Tigger_> what sort of random details?
23:35:11 <not-a-girl> pretty much anything from work
23:35:23 <Tigger_> everything but the important bits
23:35:31 <Warren1984> Tigger_ knock down a block of Jim beam
23:35:36 <not-a-girl> i cant recall an entire conversation from the spot but if i am given a little bit of something then i can recall all things related to that
23:35:39 <not-a-girl> if you know what i mean
23:35:51 <Tigger_> Warren1984, drinking alcohol is very sinful, I don't want to burn in Hell forever
23:36:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
23:36:00 <Warren1984> but you already are
23:36:00 <not-a-girl> you dont want to be a vessel for demonic entities either
23:36:00 <Warren1984> for downloading illeagel movies
23:36:00 <not-a-girl> lol
23:36:00 <Tigger_> I have never downloaded an illegal movie
23:36:00 <not-a-girl> Warren1984: im getting you all the remaining Butt Junkies volumes that you dont have for your birthday
23:36:00 <Warren1984> torrents are illeagel
23:36:12 <anotherirc3r> lol
23:36:14 <Warren1984> but you already are
23:36:15 <not-a-girl> you dont want to be a vessel for demonic entities either
23:36:22 <Warren1984> for downloading illeagel movies
23:36:26 <not-a-girl> lol
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23:36:41 <Tigger_> I have never downloaded an illegal movie
23:36:45 <not-a-girl> Warren1984: im getting you all the remaining Butt Junkies volumes that you dont have for your birthday
23:36:50 <Warren1984> torrents are illeagel
23:37:00 <Tigger_> I have only downloaded copies of legal movies
23:37:00 <not-a-girl> so please dont unwrap your birthday present at sizzlers
23:37:00 <not-a-girl> unwrap it at home, with the door locked
23:37:00 <anotherirc3r> lol
23:37:05 <Tigger_> I have only downloaded copies of legal movies
23:37:08 <not-a-girl> so please dont unwrap your birthday present at sizzlers
23:37:15 <not-a-girl> unwrap it at home, with the door locked
23:37:23 <anotherirc3r> lol
23:38:00 <Warren1984> yeah but it's still illeagel
23:38:00 <not-a-girl> abortion is legal
23:38:00 <Tigger_> no it's not illegal
23:38:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ the difference between you and me is I am not scared of the afterlife
23:38:00 <Warren1984> and there in none
23:38:20 <Warren1984> yeah but it's still illeagel
23:38:39 <not-a-girl> abortion is legal
23:38:40 <Tigger_> no it's not illegal
23:38:49 <Warren1984> Tigger_ the difference between you and me is I am not scared of the afterlife
23:38:56 <Warren1984> and there in none
23:39:00 <Warren1984> Jen what are you going to drink at my party
23:39:00 <not-a-girl> Warren1984: what if Hell is one large capacitor that is charging up and you're in the middle?
23:39:00 <Warren1984> wine?
23:39:00 <Tigger_> what happens if I am identified is that the movie company would file a civil suit against me, it's not a criminal matter
23:39:00 <anotherirc3r> what does Sizzler have?
23:39:00 <not-a-girl> it'll be hotter than the capacitor at tafe that you touched
23:39:00 <Warren1984> no idea
23:39:00 <anotherirc3r> damn
23:39:00 <Warren1984> haven't being in like 10 years
23:39:29 <Warren1984> Jen what are you going to drink at my party
23:39:31 <not-a-girl> Warren1984: what if Hell is one large capacitor that is charging up and you're in the middle?
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23:39:36 <Warren1984> wine?
23:39:37 <Tigger_> what happens if I am identified is that the movie company would file a civil suit against me, it's not a criminal matter
23:39:43 <anotherirc3r> what does Sizzler have?
23:39:43 <not-a-girl> it'll be hotter than the capacitor at tafe that you touched
23:39:51 <Warren1984> no idea
23:39:55 <anotherirc3r> damn
23:40:00 <Warren1984> maybe we should go for breakfast
23:40:00 <anotherirc3r> alcohol for breakfast?
23:40:00 <Warren1984> never being for breakfast
23:40:00 <not-a-girl> but warren i look best in night lighting
23:40:00 <not-a-girl> i dont want people to see me during the day light hours
23:40:00 <anotherirc3r> haha xmendo
23:40:00 <Warren1984> you coming not-a-girl
23:40:00 <not-a-girl> probably
23:40:00 <Tigger_> will you all be singing Tubthumping as you glug glug on the grog?
23:40:00 <not-a-girl> if for whatever reason i cant, ill make it up with you somehow
23:40:01 <Warren1984> haven't being in like 10 years
23:40:08 <Warren1984> maybe we should go for breakfast
23:40:16 <anotherirc3r> alcohol for breakfast?
23:40:17 <Warren1984> never being for breakfast
23:40:23 <not-a-girl> but warren i look best in night lighting
23:40:31 <not-a-girl> i dont want people to see me during the day light hours
23:40:40 <anotherirc3r> haha xmendo
23:40:43 <Warren1984> you coming not-a-girl
23:40:47 <not-a-girl> probably
23:40:56 <Tigger_> will you all be singing Tubthumping as you glug glug on the grog?
23:41:00 <not-a-girl> if for whatever reason i cant, ill make it up with you somehow
23:41:00 <shugenja> forgive me, i was afk
23:41:00 <not-a-girl> like how i did last year
23:41:00 <not-a-girl> i didnt know sizzler sold alcohol
23:41:00 <anotherirc3r> me either
23:41:00 <anotherirc3r> never been though
23:41:00 <not-a-girl> everyone stick to the story i didnt drink the piss so tigger wont think im evil
23:41:00 <Warren1984> lets find out if sizzle serves alcohol
23:41:00 <anotherirc3r> how? call them?
23:41:05 <shugenja> forgive me, i was afk
23:41:06 <not-a-girl> like how i did last year
23:41:19 * shugenja catches up
23:41:21 <not-a-girl> i didnt know sizzler sold alcohol
23:41:28 <anotherirc3r> me either
23:41:30 <anotherirc3r> never been though
23:41:44 <not-a-girl> everyone stick to the story i didnt drink the piss so tigger wont think im evil
23:41:54 <Warren1984> lets find out if sizzle serves alcohol
23:42:00 <not-a-girl> the first time i went to sizzler was for a friend's 13th actually
23:42:00 <not-a-girl> it was so awkward and i couldnt figure out why
23:42:00 <not-a-girl> then his parents separated months later
23:42:00 <not-a-girl> the tension was THICK
23:42:00 <not-a-girl> his dad worked for unisys
23:42:00 <Warren1984> anotherirc3r do you think perhaps my obsessiveness is based on compensating for something
23:42:00 <not-a-girl> but i havent heard of them for ages
23:42:00 <Warren1984> like maybe not having a gf
23:42:01 <anotherirc3r> how? call them?
23:42:11 <not-a-girl> the first time i went to sizzler was for a friend's 13th actually
23:42:22 <not-a-girl> it was so awkward and i couldnt figure out why
23:42:28 <not-a-girl> then his parents separated months later
23:42:35 <not-a-girl> the tension was THICK
23:42:49 <not-a-girl> his dad worked for unisys
23:42:51 <Warren1984> anotherirc3r do you think perhaps my obsessiveness is based on compensating for something
23:42:54 <not-a-girl> but i havent heard of them for ages
23:42:56 <Warren1984> like maybe not having a gf
23:43:00 <anotherirc3r> obsessiveness with?
23:43:00 <Warren1984> well like structure and routine
23:43:00 <anotherirc3r> ohhhh..
23:43:00 <anotherirc3r> i am not sure tbh
23:43:00 <not-a-girl> warren is preening himself with SOPs. his nest is decorated with hundreds of them: from how to cook to how to clean
23:43:11 <anotherirc3r> obsessiveness with?
23:43:29 <Warren1984> well like structure and routine
23:43:40 <anotherirc3r> ohhhh..
23:43:42 <anotherirc3r> i am not sure tbh
23:43:56 <not-a-girl> warren is preening himself with SOPs. his nest is decorated with hundreds of them: from how to cook to how to clean
23:44:00 <Warren1984> Q: Is Sizzler BYO?
23:44:00 <Warren1984> A: No. All Sizzler Restaurants Australia wide are fully licensed, with a range of soft drink, juice, beer, wine and spirits.
23:44:00 <not-a-girl> a female mate will see it one day and be attracted
23:44:00 <anotherirc3r> yay spirits!!
23:44:00 <not-a-girl> demonic spirits
23:44:00 <anotherirc3r> apparently lol
23:44:00 <not-a-girl> ready to possess your body
23:44:05 <Warren1984> Q: Is Sizzler BYO?
23:44:05 <Warren1984> A: No. All Sizzler Restaurants Australia wide are fully licensed, with a range of soft drink, juice, beer, wine and spirits.
23:44:06 <not-a-girl> a female mate will see it one day and be attracted
23:44:14 <anotherirc3r> yay spirits!!
23:44:32 <not-a-girl> demonic spirits
23:44:39 <anotherirc3r> apparently lol
23:44:41 <not-a-girl> ready to possess your body
23:45:00 <not-a-girl> have you ever played the Ouija board?
23:45:00 <anotherirc3r> nup
23:45:13 <not-a-girl> have you ever played the Ouija board?
23:45:17 <anotherirc3r> nup
23:46:00 <Warren1984> thing I hate about Jim Beam is the sugar
23:46:00 <Warren1984> keeps you up at night
23:46:00 <anotherirc3r> so with Sizzler.. one or two plates of 'food' and the rest dessert?
23:46:07 <Warren1984> thing I hate about Jim Beam is the sugar
23:46:12 <Warren1984> keeps you up at night
23:46:33 <anotherirc3r> so with Sizzler.. one or two plates of 'food' and the rest dessert?
23:47:00 <Warren1984> unlimited salad and dessert
23:47:00 <anotherirc3r> yummmmmmm
23:47:28 <Warren1984> unlimited salad and dessert
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23:48:00 <anotherirc3r> dessert is good
23:48:04 <anotherirc3r> yummmmmmm
23:48:09 <anotherirc3r> dessert is good
23:50:00 <Warren1984> xm I need you to be there
23:50:00 <Warren1984> as a body gaurd
23:50:00 <Warren1984> because all Asians know Karate
23:50:00 <not-a-girl> lmao
23:50:13 <Warren1984> xm I need you to be there
23:50:19 <Warren1984> as a body gaurd
23:50:27 <Warren1984> because all Asians know Karate
23:50:33 <not-a-girl> lmao
23:51:00 <Warren1984> what if Jen is one of my cousins coming from South Africa to ambush me and beat me up
23:51:00 <not-a-girl> well, you need to be there at my birthday party. because i dont want a unstructured and routineless party
23:51:00 <Warren1984> what about cavers
23:51:00 <not-a-girl> are your cousins really like that though
23:51:00 <Warren1984> there you get meat and salads
23:51:00 <anotherirc3r> lol i am?
23:51:00 <not-a-girl> is this at burswood warren?
23:51:00 <Warren1984> yeah they are like that not-a-girl
23:51:11 <Warren1984> what if Jen is one of my cousins coming from South Africa to ambush me and beat me up
23:51:16 <not-a-girl> well, you need to be there at my birthday party. because i dont want a unstructured and routineless party
23:51:27 <Warren1984> what about cavers
23:51:31 <not-a-girl> are your cousins really like that though
23:51:35 <Warren1984> there you get meat and salads
23:51:40 <anotherirc3r> lol i am?
23:51:49 <not-a-girl> is this at burswood warren?
23:52:00 <Warren1984> I never talk to them
23:52:00 <Warren1984> one of them was in the channel over a year ago
23:52:00 <not-a-girl> what did they say?
23:52:00 <Warren1984> but she deleted me from facebook
23:52:00 <not-a-girl> hey i want to see pics
23:52:00 <Warren1984> I was criticizing South Africa
23:52:00 <Warren1984> about racism and money etc
23:52:00 <anotherirc3r> sounds like a sook
23:52:01 <Warren1984> yeah they are like that not-a-girl
23:52:05 <Warren1984> I never talk to them
23:52:17 <Warren1984> one of them was in the channel over a year ago
23:52:26 <not-a-girl> what did they say?
23:52:30 <Warren1984> but she deleted me from facebook
23:52:41 <not-a-girl> hey i want to see pics
23:52:43 <Warren1984> I was criticizing South Africa
23:52:48 <Warren1984> about racism and money etc
23:52:54 <anotherirc3r> sounds like a sook
23:53:00 <Warren1984> who me, Jen?
23:53:00 <not-a-girl> her obviously
23:53:00 <anotherirc3r> yes, her
23:53:00 <anotherirc3r> not you
23:53:07 <Warren1984> who me, Jen?
23:53:15 <not-a-girl> her obviously
23:53:38 <anotherirc3r> yes, her
23:53:39 <anotherirc3r> not you
23:55:00 <Warren1984> should we confront them Jen
23:56:00 <anotherirc3r> yes.. we should bash them
23:56:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ clip clop could wait at sizzler just before it opens
23:56:00 <Warren1984> and kick down the windows to get us priority seating
23:56:00 <anotherirc3r> i like this idea
23:56:02 <Warren1984> should we confront them Jen
23:56:18 <anotherirc3r> yes.. we should bash them
23:56:22 <Warren1984> Tigger_ clip clop could wait at sizzler just before it opens
23:56:38 <Warren1984> and kick down the windows to get us priority seating
23:56:43 <anotherirc3r> i like this idea
23:57:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_ would clip clop bust his way into the kitchen and eat all the food before it comes out
23:57:50 <Warren1984> Tigger_ would clip clop bust his way into the kitchen and eat all the food before it comes out