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00:07:08 <myimmortal> happy new year to all ( even matty the former first disciple) :)
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00:23:27 <Jax> LOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLll
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01:01:00 <circle> sup lads
01:01:00 <circle> 1V1 ME IRL
01:01:38 <circle> sup lads
01:01:42 <circle> 1V1 ME IRL
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01:16:00 <Marttinn> https://img.sauf.ca/pictures/2015-12-29/c12fc3b2278596da4a26edd4a41f3373.pdf poor Ian
01:16:00 <Marttinn> what others would have enjoyed killed him
01:16:00 <Marttinn> This was right after the female officer ripped
01:16:00 <Marttinn> off my underwear.. I guess that's not
01:16:00 <Marttinn> considered rape if you're not a woman being
01:16:00 <Marttinn> raped.
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01:16:13 <Marttinn> https://img.sauf.ca/pictures/2015-12-29/c12fc3b2278596da4a26edd4a41f3373.pdf poor Ian
01:16:33 <Marttinn> what others would have enjoyed killed him
01:16:42 <Marttinn> This was right after the female officer ripped
01:16:43 <Marttinn> off my underwear.. I guess that's not
01:16:43 <Marttinn> considered rape if you're not a woman being
01:16:43 <Marttinn> raped.
01:17:00 <xm> wow i had no idea he was that mad
01:17:17 <xm> wow i had no idea he was that mad
01:18:00 <xm> sad
01:18:00 <Marttinn> absolutely
01:18:37 <xm> sad
01:19:00 <Marttinn> they should be found and tortured
01:19:00 <xm> that's a pathetic reason to kill yourself over though you have to admit, he must have other issues
01:19:00 <xm> maybe he wanted to be a woman
01:19:03 <Marttinn> absolutely
01:19:21 <Marttinn> they should be found and tortured
01:19:35 <xm> that's a pathetic reason to kill yourself over though you have to admit, he must have other issues
01:19:52 <xm> maybe he wanted to be a woman
01:48:00 <Ethanol> Happy new year
01:48:00 <Marttinn> likewise
01:48:00 <Marttinn> 1:48 Kingston (GMT+11)
01:48:07 <Ethanol> Happy new year
01:48:23 <Marttinn> likewise
01:49:00 <Marttinn> 1:48 Lord Howe Island (GMT+11)
01:49:00 <Marttinn> 1:18 Adelaida (GMT+10:30)
01:49:00 <Marttinn> 22:48 -1 día Perth (GMT+8)
01:49:00 <Marttinn> 21:48 -1 día Isla de Navidad (GMT+7)
01:49:00 <Marttinn> km hasnt yet joined
01:49:00 <Marttinn> xm*
01:49:00 <Ethanol> I'm going to take a break from IRC until the Feast of Nativity (Orthodox Christmas)
01:49:00 <Ethanol> See in you all in a week
01:49:06 <Marttinn> 1:48 Kingston (GMT+11)
01:49:07 <Marttinn> 1:48 Lord Howe Island (GMT+11)
01:49:07 <Marttinn> 1:18 Adelaida (GMT+10:30)
01:49:07 <Marttinn> 22:48 -1 día Perth (GMT+8)
01:49:07 <Marttinn> 21:48 -1 día Isla de Navidad (GMT+7)
01:49:13 <Marttinn> km hasnt yet joined
01:49:20 <Marttinn> xm*
01:49:46 <Ethanol> I'm going to take a break from IRC until the Feast of Nativity (Orthodox Christmas)
01:50:00 <Marttinn> have fun
01:50:06 <Ethanol> See in you all in a week
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01:50:42 <Marttinn> have fun
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02:38:00 <circle> tfw no gf
02:38:22 <circle> tfw no gf
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03:00:00 <xm> Happy New Year!!!!
03:00:00 <xm> Wazza go on skype and blow Ke$han a kiss
03:00:00 <IvanTheBastard> happy new year :)
03:00:00 <cherri_pie> happy new year xm
03:00:00 <cherri_pie> all the best to ya
03:00:00 <cherri_pie> :)
03:00:00 <xm> u 2
03:00:14 <xm> Happy New Year!!!!
03:00:33 <xm> Wazza go on skype and blow Ke$han a kiss
03:00:42 <IvanTheBastard> happy new year :)
03:00:47 <cherri_pie> happy new year xm
03:00:50 <cherri_pie> all the best to ya
03:00:52 <cherri_pie> :)
03:00:54 <xm> u 2
03:01:00 <xm> may those prosecutors fail to get you done for murder
03:01:00 <xm> LOLLL jk
03:01:00 <cherri_pie> ahahah
03:01:00 <cherri_pie> i dunno about that
03:01:08 <xm> may those prosecutors fail to get you done for murder
03:01:10 <xm> LOLLL jk
03:01:42 <cherri_pie> ahahah
03:01:45 <cherri_pie> i dunno about that
03:12:00 <cherri_pie> what you up to xm
03:12:16 <cherri_pie> what you up to xm
03:22:00 <xm> writing
03:22:00 <xm> u
03:22:00 <cherri_pie> what you writing
03:22:16 <xm> writing
03:22:17 <xm> u
03:22:35 <cherri_pie> what you writing
03:23:00 <xm> christian stuff
03:23:00 <cherri_pie> really ? are you that into it
03:23:00 <cherri_pie> what sort of stuff do you write
03:23:07 <xm> christian stuff
03:23:51 <cherri_pie> really ? are you that into it
03:23:57 <cherri_pie> what sort of stuff do you write
03:24:00 <cherri_pie> is it for a website or anything or just personal
03:24:00 <xm> web
03:24:00 <xm> anythin really
03:24:00 <xm> bbl
03:24:13 <cherri_pie> is it for a website or anything or just personal
03:24:30 <xm> web
03:24:39 <xm> anythin really
03:24:41 <xm> bbl
03:26:00 <cherri_pie> ok
03:26:28 <cherri_pie> ok
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05:15:00 <xm> ey wordplay
05:15:46 <xm> ey wordplay
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07:05:00 <tisk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckzBy25uocU
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07:05:36 <tisk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckzBy25uocU
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07:46:00 <patronize> why is government
07:46:00 <patronize> letting peadophiles
07:46:00 <patronize> run a chat server
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07:46:12 <patronize> why is government
07:46:21 <patronize> letting peadophiles
07:46:26 <patronize> run a chat server
07:46:28 <patronize> run a chat server
07:46:30 <patronize> why is government
07:46:32 <patronize> letting peadophiles
07:48:00 <Marttin> hi, tisk?
07:48:00 <patronize> dont hi me
07:48:00 <Marttin> happy new year
07:48:00 <patronize> until
07:48:00 <patronize> all bans
07:48:00 <patronize> are gone
07:48:50 <Marttin> hi, tisk?
07:48:57 <patronize> dont hi me
07:48:58 <Marttin> happy new year
07:49:00 <patronize> until
07:49:00 <patronize> dont hi me
07:49:00 <patronize> until
07:49:00 <patronize> all bans
07:49:00 <patronize> are gone
07:49:00 <Marttin> im only op here
07:49:03 <patronize> all bans
07:49:05 <patronize> are gone
07:49:09 <patronize> dont hi me
07:49:12 <patronize> until
07:49:14 <patronize> all bans
07:49:16 <patronize> are gone
07:49:20 <Marttin> im only op here
07:50:00 <patronize> fuck i am staying on phone to feds
07:50:00 <patronize> until they knock at on the austnet opers doors
07:50:00 <patronize> or go to power road
07:50:00 <patronize> u wanta start
07:50:09 <patronize> fuck i am staying on phone to feds
07:50:20 <patronize> until they knock at on the austnet opers doors
07:50:35 <patronize> or go to power road
07:50:42 <patronize> u wanta start
07:51:00 <patronize> and other places in the hills
07:51:00 <patronize> u want start
07:51:00 <patronize> i shut u down
07:51:00 <patronize> even lynbrook
07:51:00 <patronize> will get a visit
07:51:34 <patronize> and other places in the hills
07:51:41 <patronize> u want start
07:51:44 <patronize> i shut u down
07:51:55 <patronize> even lynbrook
07:52:00 <patronize> will get a visit
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08:18:00 <Tigger_> LOL
08:18:50 <Tigger_> LOL
08:19:00 <Tigger_> I wonder if he really will phone them
08:19:09 <Tigger_> I wonder if he really will phone them
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09:22:00 <ajnin> hello
09:22:00 <ajnin> happy new years
09:22:25 <ajnin> hello
09:22:32 <ajnin> happy new years
09:26:00 <Tigger_> morning ajnin
09:26:20 <Tigger_> morning ajnin
11:05:00 <Abortion> http://i.imgur.com/8rvC55J.jpg
11:05:38 <Abortion> http://i.imgur.com/8rvC55J.jpg
11:19:00 <Warren1984> hi all
11:19:00 <Warren1984> happy new year
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11:19:38 <Warren1984> hi all
11:19:42 <Warren1984> happy new year
11:21:00 <Marttin> likewise warren
11:21:00 <Marttin> lol abortion
11:21:30 <Marttin> likewise warren
11:21:39 <Marttin> lol abortion
11:23:00 <Tigger_> I strongly oppose abortion for white conservative Christian women, who would never want it anyway
11:23:00 <Tigger_> and I strongly oppose giving the rest a choice in the matter
11:23:48 <Tigger_> I strongly oppose abortion for white conservative Christian women, who would never want it anyway
11:24:01 <Tigger_> and I strongly oppose giving the rest a choice in the matter
11:28:00 <Abortion> I also oppose womens choice. Instead, abortions will be determined and administered by a department of government, whose job it is to ensure the genetic purity of our glorious nation
11:28:18 <Abortion> I also oppose womens choice. Instead, abortions will be determined and administered by a department of government, whose job it is to ensure the genetic purity of our glorious nation
11:29:00 <Tigger_> the ship has sailed on that one
11:29:54 <Tigger_> the ship has sailed on that one
11:31:00 <Tigger_> eugenics could have been successful if it was voluntary and driven by incentives
11:32:00 <Abortion> It was a joke
11:32:00 <Tigger_> but I'm serious
11:32:00 <Abortion> I know
11:32:06 <Tigger_> eugenics could have been successful if it was voluntary and driven by incentives
11:32:29 <Abortion> It was a joke
11:32:38 <Tigger_> but I'm serious
11:32:44 <Abortion> I know
11:33:00 <Tigger_> Sire Francis Galton was writing an SF novel about a eugenic future when he died, a shame it was never finished
11:33:47 <Tigger_> Sire Francis Galton was writing an SF novel about a eugenic future when he died, a shame it was never finished
11:35:00 <Abortion> I don't have a problem with the concept of gene pool improvement, my issue is more with selection criteria being a very difficult problem
11:35:00 <Abortion> oh and selection testing
11:35:49 <Abortion> I don't have a problem with the concept of gene pool improvement, my issue is more with selection criteria being a very difficult problem
11:35:58 <Abortion> oh and selection testing
11:36:00 <Tigger_> with a voluntary system you don't have to worry about selection, self-selection will make the determination
11:36:30 <Tigger_> with a voluntary system you don't have to worry about selection, self-selection will make the determination
11:37:00 <Tigger_> such as offer $10,000 to any woman who agrees to be sterilised, likely only drug addicts will take the offer, so that's a pretty good self-selected group to remove their harm from the gene pool
11:37:16 <Tigger_> such as offer $10,000 to any woman who agrees to be sterilised, likely only drug addicts will take the offer, so that's a pretty good self-selected group to remove their harm from the gene pool
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11:41:00 <Abortion> How about an increasing reward as women age
11:41:00 <Abortion> until menopause, or a fixed age at 35 where the risks don't really rise a lot more
11:41:20 <Abortion> How about an increasing reward as women age
11:41:51 <Abortion> until menopause, or a fixed age at 35 where the risks don't really rise a lot more
11:42:00 <Abortion> well idk what age that is
11:42:00 <Tigger_> shouldn't it be a decreasing reward? since to sterilise her at 20, will buy 20 years of non-fertility, but at 35 it's only buying 5 years
11:42:26 <Abortion> well idk what age that is
11:42:46 <Tigger_> shouldn't it be a decreasing reward? since to sterilise her at 20, will buy 20 years of non-fertility, but at 35 it's only buying 5 years
11:43:00 <Abortion> No I don't think so. If the objective is genetic quality, you want to increase incentives as risks to quality increase
11:44:04 <Abortion> No I don't think so. If the objective is genetic quality, you want to increase incentives as risks to quality increase
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11:45:00 <Tigger_> my system is really about catching high-time preference people for whom $10,000 today is worth more than what they might want years down the track
11:45:49 <Tigger_> my system is really about catching high-time preference people for whom $10,000 today is worth more than what they might want years down the track
11:46:00 <Abortion> Drug addicts don't generally have the discipline required to wait it out
11:46:38 <Abortion> Drug addicts don't generally have the discipline required to wait it out
11:52:00 <Tigger_> I was wrong, it has recently been published for the first time, albeit slightly incomplete: http://digitool-b.lib.ucl.ac.uk:8881/R/?func=dbin-jump-full&object_id=1034926&local_base=GEN01
11:52:05 <Tigger_> I was wrong, it has recently been published for the first time, albeit slightly incomplete: http://digitool-b.lib.ucl.ac.uk:8881/R/?func=dbin-jump-full&object_id=1034926&local_base=GEN01
11:53:00 <Abortion> How about this, increasing until 32, then goes to zero at 35
11:53:59 <Abortion> How about this, increasing until 32, then goes to zero at 35
11:54:00 <Abortion> If it was population control you were after, yes I do think it should be decreasing
11:54:00 <Abortion> but genetic quality is a different ball game
11:54:16 <Abortion> If it was population control you were after, yes I do think it should be decreasing
11:54:25 <Abortion> but genetic quality is a different ball game
11:55:00 <Tigger_> well you're concerned about genetic deterioration with age of fertility, I don't think that's a very important issue myself, it just increases the risks of already quite uncommon conditions to slightly less uncommon
11:55:36 <Tigger_> well you're concerned about genetic deterioration with age of fertility, I don't think that's a very important issue myself, it just increases the risks of already quite uncommon conditions to slightly less uncommon
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11:57:00 <Abortion> Well its not just that, the urge to reproduce also increases over time, in early 20s people aren't thinking about kids (particularly because of education). Except for breeders. Some people just have the drive to reproduce and ignore society. You won't catch them anyway
11:58:00 <Abortion> early 20s are also a time of optimism, taking money for sterilisation isn't on the radar, because its a desperate move
11:58:03 <Abortion> Well its not just that, the urge to reproduce also increases over time, in early 20s people aren't thinking about kids (particularly because of education). Except for breeders. Some people just have the drive to reproduce and ignore society. You won't catch them anyway
11:58:36 <Abortion> early 20s are also a time of optimism, taking money for sterilisation isn't on the radar, because its a desperate move
11:59:00 <Abortion> Further, as people age, so too does their amassed wealth, so you wouldn't get anyone after the first couple of years
11:59:00 <Abortion> if the reward is not increasing
11:59:15 <Abortion> Further, as people age, so too does their amassed wealth, so you wouldn't get anyone after the first couple of years
11:59:27 <Abortion> if the reward is not increasing
12:02:00 <Tigger_> the sort of people who can amass wealth are the ones you want breeding
12:03:00 <Tigger_> it's the ones who dissipate wealth are the ones who are good candidates for sterilisation
12:03:00 <Abortion> education has ensured that most people can do at least a little
12:03:03 <Tigger_> the sort of people who can amass wealth are the ones you want breeding
12:03:24 <Tigger_> it's the ones who dissipate wealth are the ones who are good candidates for sterilisation
12:03:40 <Abortion> education has ensured that most people can do at least a little
12:04:00 <Abortion> What you're after is those who thought they were hot shit, but are rapidly reaching a point where they fucked up
12:04:00 <Tigger_> what's an example?
12:04:00 <Abortion> Anyone with an arts degree
12:04:10 <Abortion> What you're after is those who thought they were hot shit, but are rapidly reaching a point where they fucked up
12:04:23 <Tigger_> what's an example?
12:05:00 <Abortion> well not all of them
12:05:00 <Abortion> some do alright
12:05:01 <Abortion> Anyone with an arts degree
12:05:32 <Abortion> well not all of them
12:05:35 <Abortion> some do alright
12:06:00 <Abortion> Catching people with Dunning Krueger
12:06:00 <Tigger_> they are the dregs of the middleclass, initially I'd like to target the dregs of the working class
12:06:31 <Abortion> Catching people with Dunning Krueger
12:06:48 <Tigger_> they are the dregs of the middleclass, initially I'd like to target the dregs of the working class
12:07:00 <Abortion> Well as I said, you'd catch the druggies pretty easily
12:07:17 <Abortion> Well as I said, you'd catch the druggies pretty easily
12:08:00 <Abortion> You could offer more money to people who have been unemployed for more than a year
12:08:00 <Tigger_> the arts degree types are often reasonably functional, the problems they create are more political than social
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12:08:12 <Abortion> You could offer more money to people who have been unemployed for more than a year
12:08:25 <Tigger_> the arts degree types are often reasonably functional, the problems they create are more political than social
12:09:00 <Abortion> I'm not so sure. The arts degrees types are the ones who are best at spreading disinformation
12:09:00 <Tigger_> that's what I mean by political
12:09:00 <Abortion> such as vaccine scare campaigns, which have resulted in actual recurrences of previously eraditcated sickness
12:09:00 <Abortion> I think thats social too
12:09:08 <Abortion> I'm not so sure. The arts degrees types are the ones who are best at spreading disinformation
12:09:35 <Tigger_> that's what I mean by political
12:09:55 <Abortion> such as vaccine scare campaigns, which have resulted in actual recurrences of previously eraditcated sickness
12:10:04 <Abortion> I think thats social too
12:11:00 <Tigger_> I know some of these sorts, they read the Dr. Mercola site and other such things regularly
12:11:00 <Tigger_> they're not likely to respond to financial incentives, as they often live fairly modestly anyway, by choice
12:11:26 <Tigger_> I know some of these sorts, they read the Dr. Mercola site and other such things regularly
12:11:52 <Tigger_> they're not likely to respond to financial incentives, as they often live fairly modestly anyway, by choice
12:12:00 <Abortion> Hmm, actually now that you say that, the irony is that quite well off areas have seen some of the worst drops in vaccination rates
12:12:00 <Tigger_> yes, that's true too
12:12:00 <Tigger_> usually the wives are dictating that
12:12:34 <Abortion> Hmm, actually now that you say that, the irony is that quite well off areas have seen some of the worst drops in vaccination rates
12:12:43 <Tigger_> yes, that's true too
12:12:57 <Tigger_> usually the wives are dictating that
12:13:00 <Abortion> On an unrelated topic, my fileserver is all patched up
12:14:02 <Abortion> On an unrelated topic, my fileserver is all patched up
12:15:00 <Tigger_> excellent, how long did that take?
12:15:00 <Abortion> The resilver took about 6 hours
12:15:00 <Abortion> I then ran another scrub to make sure it was all sweet
12:15:00 <Abortion> also about 6 hours
12:15:19 <Tigger_> excellent, how long did that take?
12:15:32 <Abortion> The resilver took about 6 hours
12:15:46 <Abortion> I then ran another scrub to make sure it was all sweet
12:15:46 <Abortion> also about 6 hours
12:16:00 <Tigger_> what is resilvering?
12:16:00 <Abortion> The process of updating a disk which is not up to date or in error
12:16:00 <Tigger_> or introducing a new drive?
12:16:00 <Abortion> yes
12:16:06 <Tigger_> what is resilvering?
12:16:27 <Abortion> The process of updating a disk which is not up to date or in error
12:16:51 <Tigger_> or introducing a new drive?
12:16:56 <Abortion> yes
12:17:00 <Abortion> I sort of included that as 100% not up to date in my head
12:17:15 <Abortion> I sort of included that as 100% not up to date in my head
12:18:00 <Abortion> I'm fairly sure that the replacement process does an implicit scrub, but I ran another one anyway
12:18:21 <Abortion> I'm fairly sure that the replacement process does an implicit scrub, but I ran another one anyway
12:19:00 <Tigger_> I don't know much about these matters, though I'll have to when my idealised NAS becomes a realistic possibility
12:19:11 <Tigger_> I don't know much about these matters, though I'll have to when my idealised NAS becomes a realistic possibility
12:26:00 <Warren1984> hi all
12:26:00 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
12:26:54 <Warren1984> hi all
12:26:59 <Tigger_> hi Warren1984
12:27:00 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
12:27:00 <Warren1984> where is doctor
12:27:00 <Warren1984> hey xm
12:27:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEjLoHdbVeE&index=4&list=RDunfzfe8f9NI
12:27:00 <Tigger_> doctor is having a bath
12:27:00 <Warren1984> again
12:27:00 <Warren1984> I can't fit in our bath
12:27:00 <Tigger_> it's pretty hot in Perth I hear
12:27:00 <Warren1984> not at the moment
12:27:07 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_
12:27:19 <Warren1984> where is doctor
12:27:24 <Warren1984> hey xm
12:27:30 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEjLoHdbVeE&index=4&list=RDunfzfe8f9NI
12:27:32 <Tigger_> doctor is having a bath
12:27:38 <Warren1984> again
12:27:48 <Warren1984> I can't fit in our bath
12:27:49 <Tigger_> it's pretty hot in Perth I hear
12:27:58 <Warren1984> not at the moment
12:28:00 <CodeeKnight> Warren1984
12:28:00 <CodeeKnight> how are you?
12:29:01 <CodeeKnight> Warren1984
12:29:04 <CodeeKnight> how are you?
12:32:00 <Abortion> Hmm, I might just consider getting a PS4 http://news.softpedia.com/news/playstation-4-has-been-hacked-to-run-gentoo-linux-video-498287.shtml
12:32:00 <Tigger_> the PS3 initially had Linux support, but Sony withdrew it
12:32:39 <Abortion> Hmm, I might just consider getting a PS4 http://news.softpedia.com/news/playstation-4-has-been-hacked-to-run-gentoo-linux-video-498287.shtml
12:33:00 <Abortion> the PS3 was a different ballgame though, it has a novel CPU architecture which made it good for parallel processing. These days you can do that with a GPU, and this architecture is nothing special
12:33:04 <Tigger_> the PS3 initially had Linux support, but Sony withdrew it
12:33:39 <Abortion> the PS3 was a different ballgame though, it has a novel CPU architecture which made it good for parallel processing. These days you can do that with a GPU, and this architecture is nothing special
12:34:00 <Abortion> It is a fairly reasonably package for the price though
12:34:00 <Abortion> if you are able to use it general purpose
12:34:13 <Abortion> It is a fairly reasonably package for the price though
12:34:31 <Abortion> if you are able to use it general purpose
12:35:00 <Tigger_> actually one thing that occurred to me with the Alienware Alpha is that MS might adopt the idea for the next Xbox, and make it a dual console/PC
12:35:00 <Tigger_> Universal Apps are already a step in that direction
12:35:13 <Tigger_> actually one thing that occurred to me with the Alienware Alpha is that MS might adopt the idea for the next Xbox, and make it a dual console/PC
12:35:55 <Tigger_> Universal Apps are already a step in that direction
12:36:00 <Tigger_> and there's no reason why Steam couldn't have SteamOS run as a normal Linux distro too
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12:36:44 <Tigger_> and there's no reason why Steam couldn't have SteamOS run as a normal Linux distro too
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12:37:00 <Abortion> Well steam is already available on ubuntu
12:37:00 <Tigger_> yes
12:37:16 <Abortion> Well steam is already available on ubuntu
12:37:54 <Tigger_> yes
12:38:00 <Tigger_> though Steam boxes are a prepackaged solution, average people don't want to be messing around with drivers for linux
12:38:44 <Tigger_> though Steam boxes are a prepackaged solution, average people don't want to be messing around with drivers for linux
13:03:00 <circle> ps3 was crazy
13:03:00 <circle> more powerful than the best desktop pc at the time
13:03:30 <circle> ps3 was crazy
13:03:39 <circle> more powerful than the best desktop pc at the time
13:07:00 <ajnin> yo
13:07:47 <ajnin> yo
13:08:00 <Tigger_> yet they abandoned that architecture completely for the PS4, and went with fairly generic PC hardware
13:08:16 <Tigger_> yet they abandoned that architecture completely for the PS4, and went with fairly generic PC hardware
13:10:00 <Abortion> yeah, about the only interesting feature is the secondary ARM computer on board
13:10:00 <Tigger_> it does? what for?
13:10:14 <Abortion> yeah, about the only interesting feature is the secondary ARM computer on board
13:10:38 <Tigger_> it does? what for?
13:11:00 <Abortion> Well from a quick scan over the wiki, the main architecture is passed over to the game, so it does all the background stuff to do with the operating system, ie social connectivity and so
13:11:36 <Abortion> Well from a quick scan over the wiki, the main architecture is passed over to the game, so it does all the background stuff to do with the operating system, ie social connectivity and so
13:14:00 <Abortion> my guess is that it does an internal NAT, and the game talks to the ARM side OS through it for API features
13:14:00 <Tigger_> I wondered for a second if it runs Android for the interface, social stuff, etc.
13:14:40 <Abortion> my guess is that it does an internal NAT, and the game talks to the ARM side OS through it for API features
13:14:49 <Tigger_> I wondered for a second if it runs Android for the interface, social stuff, etc.
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15:29:00 <Kane468> Hello everyone
15:29:56 <Kane468> Hello everyone
15:30:00 <circle> Kane468: good morning
15:30:21 <circle> Kane468: good morning
15:35:00 <Abortion> http://imgur.com/gallery/KdmLTgX
15:35:52 <Abortion> http://imgur.com/gallery/KdmLTgX
15:38:00 <circle> looks shit
15:38:00 <circle> Abortion are you a virgin?
15:38:45 <circle> looks shit
15:38:51 <circle> Abortion are you a virgin?
15:41:00 <circle> Abortion
15:41:00 <circle> hey ajnin
15:41:25 <circle> Abortion
15:41:35 <circle> hey ajnin
15:52:00 <Abortion> You obviously don't care that much because you've asked before and I've answered
15:52:59 <Abortion> You obviously don't care that much because you've asked before and I've answered
15:56:00 <CodeeKnight> virgin?
15:56:26 <CodeeKnight> virgin?
16:09:00 <xm> that looks great
16:09:00 <xm> ever tried mac 'n cheese balls?
16:09:00 <xm> where the outside is kinda crumbed?
16:09:00 <xm> delicious
16:09:25 <xm> that looks great
16:09:33 <xm> ever tried mac 'n cheese balls?
16:09:41 <xm> where the outside is kinda crumbed?
16:09:48 <xm> delicious
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17:32:00 <Tigger_> <Abortion> You obviously don't care that much because you've asked before and I've answered <- circumstances might have changed since circle asked last
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17:32:55 <Tigger_> <Abortion> You obviously don't care that much because you've asked before and I've answered <- circumstances might have changed since circle asked last
17:33:00 <Abortion> well the answer was such that it will never change
17:33:00 <Abortion> thus it is not neccessary for him to ask again
17:33:20 <Abortion> well the answer was such that it will never change
17:33:30 <Abortion> thus it is not neccessary for him to ask again
17:34:00 <Tigger_> next time say, "lost it to Bill Cosby"
17:34:50 <Tigger_> next time say, "lost it to Bill Cosby"
17:35:00 <Abortion> Thus I can only conclude that if circle asks that question where there was no context for it, it is because he is being a dick
17:35:00 <Abortion> It is like the old political trick of asking the question until people associate the person with the implied answer
17:35:24 <Abortion> Thus I can only conclude that if circle asks that question where there was no context for it, it is because he is being a dick
17:35:59 <Abortion> It is like the old political trick of asking the question until people associate the person with the implied answer
17:37:00 <Tigger_> prom's initial plan was to lose his virginity to Lucy Lee, she could be hired for $2,000. but he abandoned that plan for some reason
17:37:38 <Tigger_> prom's initial plan was to lose his virginity to Lucy Lee, she could be hired for $2,000. but he abandoned that plan for some reason
17:39:00 <doctor> $2k is hard to save when on the dole
17:39:00 <doctor> I should stop trying to look for jobs - it's always so depressing
17:39:00 <Tigger_> hi doctor
17:39:00 <Tigger_> what happens?
17:39:00 <doctor> hey tigger
17:39:00 <Abortion> you still have to send out resumes though right
17:39:10 <doctor> $2k is hard to save when on the dole
17:39:33 <doctor> I should stop trying to look for jobs - it's always so depressing
17:39:53 <Tigger_> hi doctor
17:39:56 <Tigger_> what happens?
17:40:00 <doctor> hey tigger
17:40:00 <Abortion> need x applications per month or whatever
17:40:00 <doctor> Just what they ask for simple jobs that are hardly worth wanting, but clearly people are desperate for work so they can ask anything from them
17:40:00 <doctor> yeah, i'm not on the dole though so it doesn't matter
17:40:00 <Abortion> ah
17:40:01 <Abortion> you still have to send out resumes though right
17:40:11 <Abortion> need x applications per month or whatever
17:40:41 <doctor> Just what they ask for simple jobs that are hardly worth wanting, but clearly people are desperate for work so they can ask anything from them
17:40:52 <doctor> yeah, i'm not on the dole though so it doesn't matter
17:41:00 <Abortion> ah
17:41:00 <Tigger_> what are some examples of what they ask of the employees?
17:41:08 <Tigger_> what are some examples of what they ask of the employees?
17:43:00 <Abortion> My guess, unpaid and unrecorded overtime
17:43:00 <doctor> "extensive appliance knowledge" "current references no later than six months" "ability to work any time" "*bubbly* positive attitude" "8 years minumum work experience" job for working a casual warehouse job
17:43:00 <Abortion> "8 years minumum work experience"
17:43:00 <Abortion> wow
17:43:00 <Tigger_> bubbly? from a male?
17:43:00 <doctor> that's just what I accumulated from the jobs I saw posted
17:43:00 <Abortion> well that only would apply in the interview room really
17:43:12 <Abortion> My guess, unpaid and unrecorded overtime
17:43:18 <doctor> "extensive appliance knowledge" "current references no later than six months" "ability to work any time" "*bubbly* positive attitude" "8 years minumum work experience" job for working a casual warehouse job
17:43:35 <Abortion> "8 years minumum work experience"
17:43:37 <Abortion> wow
17:43:40 <Tigger_> bubbly? from a male?
17:43:58 <doctor> that's just what I accumulated from the jobs I saw posted
17:43:59 <Abortion> well that only would apply in the interview room really
17:44:00 <Abortion> so basically anyone who can put on a good show
17:44:00 <doctor> but they're all along the same lines
17:44:00 <Abortion> even though its irrelevant
17:44:00 <doctor> yeah I'm just honest and don't like to bullshit myself, so that puts me at a disadvantage if I want to put my foot in the door
17:44:00 <doctor> but usually i do well in interviews. don't think I've ever had a bad one
17:44:08 <Abortion> so basically anyone who can put on a good show
17:44:12 <doctor> but they're all along the same lines
17:44:12 <Abortion> even though its irrelevant
17:44:35 <doctor> yeah I'm just honest and don't like to bullshit myself, so that puts me at a disadvantage if I want to put my foot in the door
17:44:49 <doctor> but usually i do well in interviews. don't think I've ever had a bad one
17:45:00 <Tigger_> how many interviews have you been to lately?
17:45:00 <Abortion> They're probably thinking, unattached male with no debt, no go
17:45:00 <doctor> lol, true Abortion
17:45:00 <doctor> lately? none
17:45:00 <doctor> I can't be fucked with the working world. Guess I'll just have to find another way to make money
17:45:19 <Tigger_> how many interviews have you been to lately?
17:45:20 <Abortion> They're probably thinking, unattached male with no debt, no go
17:45:36 <doctor> lol, true Abortion
17:45:41 <doctor> lately? none
17:46:00 <doctor> I can't be fucked with the working world. Guess I'll just have to find another way to make money
17:48:00 <Tigger_> how come you're not on the dole?
17:48:44 <Tigger_> how come you're not on the dole?
17:51:00 <doctor> Too much money saved from when I was working, but that'll dry up sooner or later
17:51:00 <Tigger_> I've long thought there's actually no such thing as laziness, more just introverts that can't compete with the gung-ho enthusiasm for the idiocy that abounds in a typical workplace
17:51:00 <doctor> Then I might have to swallow my pride
17:51:00 <doctor> Yeah I can agree with that
17:51:00 <Tigger_> you should've taken it all out, and said you spent it at the casino
17:51:00 <doctor> lol, yeah true
17:51:00 <doctor> hide it under my mattress
17:51:10 <doctor> Too much money saved from when I was working, but that'll dry up sooner or later
17:51:13 <Tigger_> I've long thought there's actually no such thing as laziness, more just introverts that can't compete with the gung-ho enthusiasm for the idiocy that abounds in a typical workplace
17:51:26 <doctor> Then I might have to swallow my pride
17:51:32 <doctor> Yeah I can agree with that
17:51:37 <Tigger_> you should've taken it all out, and said you spent it at the casino
17:51:48 <doctor> lol, yeah true
17:52:00 <Tigger_> yes
17:52:05 <doctor> hide it under my mattress
17:53:00 <Tigger_> eventually physical money might be phased out, but there's always bitcoin
17:53:03 <Tigger_> yes
17:53:27 <Tigger_> eventually physical money might be phased out, but there's always bitcoin
17:56:00 <Abortion> I don't entirely agree. I agree that when it comes to getting jobs, you're right about that (which to me is dunning krueger confidence), but there definately is laziness out there.
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17:56:31 <Abortion> I don't entirely agree. I agree that when it comes to getting jobs, you're right about that (which to me is dunning krueger confidence), but there definately is laziness out there.
18:00:00 <doctor> it's the instincts falt
18:00:46 <doctor> it's the instincts falt
18:01:00 <Abortion> That and crappy energy systems
18:01:00 <Abortion> Gotta have plenty of energy going to the brain, or the brain refuses to work
18:01:00 <Tigger_> I was mainly talking about getting the job
18:01:00 <Abortion> yeah
18:01:25 <Abortion> That and crappy energy systems
18:01:42 <Abortion> Gotta have plenty of energy going to the brain, or the brain refuses to work
18:01:47 <Tigger_> I was mainly talking about getting the job
18:01:54 <Abortion> yeah
18:02:00 <Abortion> There's always dole bludgers, but its not like all 6% are
18:02:00 <Abortion> maybe less than 1%
18:02:00 <Abortion> Because there is always the social pressure to have more stuff than your friends
18:02:00 <Abortion> which you need more money fore
18:02:10 <Abortion> There's always dole bludgers, but its not like all 6% are
18:02:22 <Abortion> maybe less than 1%
18:02:35 <Abortion> Because there is always the social pressure to have more stuff than your friends
18:02:41 <Abortion> which you need more money fore
18:04:00 <Tigger_> from what I can gather the competition these days is more about fabulous places you've been to, to then upload photos on social media
18:04:00 <Abortion> same difference right
18:04:00 <Tigger_> which costs a lot
18:04:00 <Tigger_> yeah
18:04:00 <Abortion> Sure does
18:04:13 <Tigger_> from what I can gather the competition these days is more about fabulous places you've been to, to then upload photos on social media
18:04:24 <Abortion> same difference right
18:04:27 <Tigger_> which costs a lot
18:04:38 <Tigger_> yeah
18:04:39 <Abortion> Sure does
18:08:00 <Tigger_> I'm probably too introverted to really understand these things, why personal happiness must be based on a very external, and arbitrary set of measures
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18:08:43 <Tigger_> I'm probably too introverted to really understand these things, why personal happiness must be based on a very external, and arbitrary set of measures
18:09:00 <Abortion> To me its instinct solving the problem of the existential crisis
18:09:42 <Abortion> To me its instinct solving the problem of the existential crisis
18:10:00 <Tigger_> how do you mean?
18:10:28 <Tigger_> how do you mean?
18:11:00 <Abortion> Well its like reproduction. We do it because we have the urge to. Same with the drive to try and be the top dog in social circles. It gives meaning when meaning isn't explicit (ie conscious)
18:11:34 <Abortion> Well its like reproduction. We do it because we have the urge to. Same with the drive to try and be the top dog in social circles. It gives meaning when meaning isn't explicit (ie conscious)
18:13:00 <Tigger_> yes, but while the former is absolutely necessary for the survival of the species, the latter is one of those things you'd expect people would learn to control, especially given that it's so expensive and the money could be spent on something a bit more practical
18:13:19 <Tigger_> yes, but while the former is absolutely necessary for the survival of the species, the latter is one of those things you'd expect people would learn to control, especially given that it's so expensive and the money could be spent on something a bit more practical
18:14:00 <Abortion> I'm not so sure. Yes #1 is crucial, but before the modern economy, your offspring would benefit from the favours people would show you because you were top dog
18:14:00 <Tigger_> or ask themselves "Is anyone really impressed by me?"
18:14:00 <Abortion> In some sense it still does, but money has made things more complicated
18:14:24 <Abortion> I'm not so sure. Yes #1 is crucial, but before the modern economy, your offspring would benefit from the favours people would show you because you were top dog
18:14:30 <Tigger_> or ask themselves "Is anyone really impressed by me?"
18:14:39 <Abortion> In some sense it still does, but money has made things more complicated
18:16:00 <Abortion> I guess you could do more prying, which then leads into, why do hierarchies naturally form even in cooperative societies
18:16:20 <Abortion> I guess you could do more prying, which then leads into, why do hierarchies naturally form even in cooperative societies
18:17:00 <Tigger_> my resolution is the same as last year's, focus on one thing, instead of dissipating myself on many things that I never finish
18:17:00 <Tigger_> yes, but my feeling is that while there's a basis for their behaviour in evolutionary psychology, it should be a reasonably easy thing to recognise for what it is, and assign a low priority to it, if not suppress it altogether
18:17:52 <Tigger_> yes, but my feeling is that while there's a basis for their behaviour in evolutionary psychology, it should be a reasonably easy thing to recognise for what it is, and assign a low priority to it, if not suppress it altogether
18:18:00 <Abortion> That is called discipline, and evidence suggests that very people have such perfect discipline
18:18:00 <Abortion> The other thing is, as you said, you're introverted
18:18:00 <Abortion> as am I
18:18:00 <Abortion> That means we have been thinking about this
18:18:00 <Abortion> those that aren't probably haven't found the time to think about it
18:18:26 <Abortion> That is called discipline, and evidence suggests that very people have such perfect discipline
18:18:37 <Abortion> The other thing is, as you said, you're introverted
18:18:45 <Abortion> as am I
18:18:53 <Abortion> That means we have been thinking about this
18:19:00 <Tigger_> it's something that I've observed as one of the absurdities of the world
18:19:00 <Abortion> *very few people have
18:19:00 <Abortion> Anyway, I was going to go on with the hierarchies thing
18:19:03 <Abortion> those that aren't probably haven't found the time to think about it
18:19:15 <Tigger_> it's something that I've observed as one of the absurdities of the world
18:19:32 <Abortion> *very few people have
18:19:45 <Abortion> Anyway, I was going to go on with the hierarchies thing
18:20:00 <Abortion> One train of thought I had, which is getting very much into speculation is: Brains need a lot of energy. Food has traditionally been relatively scarce. So you employ the mind of a smaller set of people (if not just one) with full energy, and thus conserve energy by not giving everyone full faculty
18:20:27 <Abortion> One train of thought I had, which is getting very much into speculation is: Brains need a lot of energy. Food has traditionally been relatively scarce. So you employ the mind of a smaller set of people (if not just one) with full energy, and thus conserve energy by not giving everyone full faculty
18:21:00 <Abortion> An alternative is simply that of specialisation
18:21:00 <Abortion> which then turned into a competition
18:21:00 <Tigger_> in my case my brain works better without too much energy input, if I eat too much my brain stops working
18:21:00 <Abortion> Ah yes, food coma
18:21:06 <Abortion> An alternative is simply that of specialisation
18:21:23 <Abortion> which then turned into a competition
18:21:34 <Tigger_> in my case my brain works better without too much energy input, if I eat too much my brain stops working
18:21:43 <Abortion> Ah yes, food coma
18:22:00 <Tigger_> this is recognised?
18:22:00 <Abortion> The difference is, these days we all have decent reserves, whereas back then it would have been a lot more scant
18:22:00 <Abortion> at least colloquially
18:22:00 <Abortion> idk about the research into it
18:22:01 <Tigger_> this is recognised?
18:22:20 <Abortion> The difference is, these days we all have decent reserves, whereas back then it would have been a lot more scant
18:22:28 <Abortion> at least colloquially
18:22:31 <Abortion> idk about the research into it
18:22:50 <Tigger_> I thought it was just me
18:23:00 <Ethanol> I'm thinking about calling quits on purely technical work.
18:23:00 <Tigger_> good idea
18:23:00 <Tigger_> I thought it was just me
18:23:00 <Abortion> Congrats, you're also human
18:23:05 <Abortion> Congrats, you're also human
18:24:00 <Tigger_> another thing I've observed about social status seeking and signalling is that such people don't really care about what people in their close circle think of them, they mainly care about what people who they don't even know think about them
18:24:47 <Tigger_> another thing I've observed about social status seeking and signalling is that such people don't really care about what people in their close circle think of them, they mainly care about what people who they don't even know think about them
18:25:00 <Ethanol> I'm gradually transitioning into a managerial role (without the title, or pay rise, or authority).
18:25:00 <Abortion> seems reasonable
18:25:00 <Abortion> the more people respect you, the better off you'll be if you need something
18:25:00 <Abortion> might just be a shotgun
18:25:00 <Abortion> not everyone is reliable
18:25:00 <Abortion> so its a numbers game
18:25:09 <Abortion> seems reasonable
18:25:29 <Abortion> the more people respect you, the better off you'll be if you need something
18:25:46 <Abortion> might just be a shotgun
18:25:50 <Abortion> not everyone is reliable
18:25:54 <Abortion> so its a numbers game
18:26:00 <Tigger_> you can hold meetings, or whatever it is they do
18:26:00 <Ethanol> lol
18:26:00 <circle> Tigger_: lucy lee? who is that?
18:26:00 <Tigger_> well it seems to be counter productive as their relatives and (former) friends think they're a ratbag and despise them
18:26:00 <Tigger_> circle, a korean porn star
18:26:00 <Abortion> yeah idk about that one
18:26:34 <circle> Tigger_: lucy lee? who is that?
18:26:41 <Tigger_> well it seems to be counter productive as their relatives and (former) friends think they're a ratbag and despise them
18:26:57 <Tigger_> circle, a korean porn star
18:27:00 <Abortion> yeah idk about that one
18:27:00 <circle> Tigger_: non-white women are disgusting
18:27:00 <Abortion> My thoughts on that would be simply risk/reward, but over generations and evolution rather than conscious
18:27:45 <circle> Tigger_: non-white women are disgusting
18:28:00 <Abortion> My thoughts on that would be simply risk/reward, but over generations and evolution rather than conscious
18:28:00 <Tigger_> circle, her in particular
18:28:16 <Tigger_> circle, her in particular
18:29:00 <circle> i want to fuck a girl like emilie nereng
18:29:00 <circle> she's getting uglier now she's 21
18:29:00 <circle> her peak was age 13
18:29:00 <circle> norwegian women are so incredibly stunning
18:29:36 <circle> i want to fuck a girl like emilie nereng
18:29:40 <circle> she's getting uglier now she's 21
18:29:42 <circle> her peak was age 13
18:29:51 <circle> norwegian women are so incredibly stunning
18:30:00 <circle> Abortion have you seen emilie nereng?
18:30:00 <Abortion> No
18:30:00 <Abortion> or if I have, I certainly don't remember the name
18:30:14 <circle> Abortion have you seen emilie nereng?
18:30:22 <Abortion> No
18:30:51 <Abortion> or if I have, I certainly don't remember the name
18:31:00 <circle> Abortion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdY9xHfCTWs
18:31:00 <Abortion> Oh, you've talked about her before
18:31:00 <Abortion> I recognise the Voe
18:31:09 <circle> Abortion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdY9xHfCTWs
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18:31:43 <Abortion> Oh, you've talked about her before
18:31:48 <Abortion> I recognise the Voe
18:32:00 <circle> what do you think about her Tigger_?
18:32:00 <Abortion> lol blogger, doesn't really pique my interest
18:32:00 <Tigger_> typical Swedish kids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE_PyKAEfm8
18:32:30 <circle> what do you think about her Tigger_?
18:32:34 <Abortion> lol blogger, doesn't really pique my interest
18:32:43 <Tigger_> typical Swedish kids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE_PyKAEfm8
18:33:00 <circle> norwegian women aren't race mixers
18:33:00 <circle> unlike say french women
18:33:00 <circle> or dutch women sadly
18:33:47 <circle> norwegian women aren't race mixers
18:33:51 <circle> unlike say french women
18:33:53 <circle> or dutch women sadly
18:34:00 <Abortion> lol go to iceland
18:34:00 <Abortion> no one migrates to there
18:34:00 <circle> that's because it's pretty shit
18:34:00 <circle> good if you're a native i guess
18:34:00 <Tigger_> Iceland is full of vibrants now, thanks to refugee settlement programs
18:34:11 <Abortion> lol go to iceland
18:34:15 <Abortion> no one migrates to there
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18:34:52 <circle> that's because it's pretty shit
18:34:55 <circle> good if you're a native i guess
18:34:57 <Tigger_> Iceland is full of vibrants now, thanks to refugee settlement programs
18:35:00 <Abortion> I think they actually have issues with inbreeding, so there was apparently a phone app to try and sus out family connections for before you got involved
18:35:12 <Abortion> I think they actually have issues with inbreeding, so there was apparently a phone app to try and sus out family connections for before you got involved
18:36:00 <circle> that was made up
18:36:00 <circle> british people are inbred sadly
18:36:00 <circle> thats why british women are the least attractive of all white women
18:36:00 <circle> luckily it didn't affect the men too much
18:36:00 <Abortion> Is it? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24304415
18:36:00 <circle> im a british man and im thick, solid, tight
18:36:00 <circle> well of anglo heritage
18:36:15 <circle> that was made up
18:36:19 <circle> british people are inbred sadly
18:36:29 <circle> thats why british women are the least attractive of all white women
18:36:46 <circle> luckily it didn't affect the men too much
18:36:53 <Abortion> Is it? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24304415
18:36:53 <circle> im a british man and im thick, solid, tight
18:37:00 <Tigger_> no, British women are at the top of the rankings, if they're ugly then it's more likely due to alcohol consumption
18:37:00 <circle> Abortion, i don't deny there's an app
18:37:00 <Tigger_> it's Irish women that are ugly
18:37:00 <circle> but that there's any big problem with inbreeding is made up
18:37:00 <Abortion> oh right
18:37:00 <circle> Tigger_, i encourage you to go to a few european countries
18:37:00 <circle> look at norwegian women for example
18:37:00 <circle> then look at british women
18:37:00 <circle> the differnece is incredible
18:37:00 <Tigger_> Norwegian women are very high rank too, but Finnish even higher
18:37:03 <circle> well of anglo heritage
18:37:10 <Tigger_> no, British women are at the top of the rankings, if they're ugly then it's more likely due to alcohol consumption
18:37:24 <circle> Abortion, i don't deny there's an app
18:37:25 <Tigger_> it's Irish women that are ugly
18:37:29 <circle> but that there's any big problem with inbreeding is made up
18:37:37 <Abortion> oh right
18:37:38 <circle> Tigger_, i encourage you to go to a few european countries
18:37:42 <circle> look at norwegian women for example
18:37:45 <circle> then look at british women
18:37:48 <circle> the differnece is incredible
18:38:00 <circle> finnish women are ugly because they have asiatic blood
18:38:00 <Abortion> rank? Of what?
18:38:00 <circle> they are a huge step down from norwegian and swedish women
18:38:00 <circle> german and dutch women can be very pretty, but not as often as scandinavian women
18:38:00 <Abortion> If thats your scale, its probably because of the norse invaders
18:38:04 <Tigger_> Norwegian women are very high rank too, but Finnish even higher
18:38:14 <circle> finnish women are ugly because they have asiatic blood
18:38:15 <Abortion> rank? Of what?
18:38:20 <circle> they are a huge step down from norwegian and swedish women
18:38:31 <circle> german and dutch women can be very pretty, but not as often as scandinavian women
18:38:53 <Abortion> If thats your scale, its probably because of the norse invaders
18:39:00 <circle> what's because of it?
18:39:00 <Tigger_> according to this composite photo: https://leadingpersonality.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/averageface.jpg
18:39:00 <Abortion> The germans and dutch having some pretty women
18:39:00 <circle> all germanic women are beautiful Abortion
18:39:00 <Abortion> Vikings were invading all over the place a millenia ago (well more, but anyway)
18:39:00 <circle> Tigger_, i've seen that photo, it's not scientific though
18:39:14 <circle> what's because of it?
18:39:19 <Tigger_> according to this composite photo: https://leadingpersonality.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/averageface.jpg
18:39:26 <Abortion> The germans and dutch having some pretty women
18:39:46 <circle> all germanic women are beautiful Abortion
18:39:46 <Abortion> Vikings were invading all over the place a millenia ago (well more, but anyway)
18:40:00 <Tigger_> the English and Scandinavians are very pretty, the German and Irish girls are fairly ugly
18:40:00 <circle> the swedish girl is the prettiest one in it
18:40:00 <circle> the irish one is ugly but irish women can be very pretty
18:40:00 <circle> i have been there many times
18:40:00 <Abortion> idk, she has a pretty strong jaw, not too keen on that
18:40:00 <circle> the swedish one Abortion? i dont think so, but scandinavian women do have strong jews
18:40:00 <circle> which i think is pretty cool
18:40:04 <circle> Tigger_, i've seen that photo, it's not scientific though
18:40:14 <Tigger_> the English and Scandinavians are very pretty, the German and Irish girls are fairly ugly
18:40:20 <circle> the swedish girl is the prettiest one in it
18:40:43 <circle> the irish one is ugly but irish women can be very pretty
18:40:46 <circle> i have been there many times
18:40:47 <Abortion> idk, she has a pretty strong jaw, not too keen on that
18:40:59 <circle> the swedish one Abortion? i dont think so, but scandinavian women do have strong jews
18:41:00 <Tigger_> the Irish girl would be good for a football riot
18:41:00 <Abortion> the composite there, yeah she does
18:41:00 <circle> that isnt a strong jaw
18:41:00 <circle> let me show u a pretty scandi girl with a strong jaw
18:41:00 <circle> http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/5121654/666full-emilie-nereng.jpg
18:41:00 <circle> fucking master race
18:41:03 <circle> which i think is pretty cool
18:41:08 <Tigger_> the Irish girl would be good for a football riot
18:41:10 <Abortion> the composite there, yeah she does
18:41:26 <circle> that isnt a strong jaw
18:41:32 <circle> let me show u a pretty scandi girl with a strong jaw
18:41:48 <circle> http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/5121654/666full-emilie-nereng.jpg
18:41:51 <circle> fucking master race
18:42:00 <Tigger_> she looks nice now, but when she's 30 all the baby fat will be gone, revealing her iron jaw in all its butch detail
18:42:59 <Tigger_> she looks nice now, but when she's 30 all the baby fat will be gone, revealing her iron jaw in all its butch detail
18:43:00 <Abortion> Out of that, I reckon I might be leaning toward the french one
18:43:00 <circle> possibly true Tigger_
18:43:00 <circle> she was prettiest when she was 13
18:43:00 <Tigger_> the biggest revelation is that Hungarians really do look like vampires
18:43:16 <Abortion> Out of that, I reckon I might be leaning toward the french one
18:43:28 <circle> possibly true Tigger_
18:43:31 <circle> she was prettiest when she was 13
18:43:43 <Tigger_> the biggest revelation is that Hungarians really do look like vampires
18:44:00 <circle> the french one Abortion?
18:44:00 <circle> she looks disgusting to me
18:44:00 <Abortion> horses for courses
18:44:00 <Abortion> France is my ancestral neighbour
18:44:00 <circle> what do you mean
18:44:00 <Abortion> I'm pure Flemish, as in the Northern Belgium region
18:44:09 <circle> the french one Abortion?
18:44:12 <circle> she looks disgusting to me
18:44:26 <Abortion> horses for courses
18:44:33 <Abortion> France is my ancestral neighbour
18:44:41 <circle> what do you mean
18:45:00 <circle> idk much about the flemish
18:45:00 <circle> are they germanic?
18:45:00 <Abortion> yes
18:45:00 <circle> the french aren't germanic
18:45:00 <circle> they are a mix of meditteranean, a bit of germanic and roman
18:45:00 <Abortion> Belgium is nestled between France, the Netherlands and German
18:45:00 <Abortion> The south is the French part of Belgium
18:45:03 <Abortion> I'm pure Flemish, as in the Northern Belgium region
18:45:20 <circle> idk much about the flemish
18:45:24 <circle> are they germanic?
18:45:28 <Abortion> yes
18:45:35 <circle> the french aren't germanic
18:45:45 <circle> they are a mix of meditteranean, a bit of germanic and roman
18:45:48 <Abortion> Belgium is nestled between France, the Netherlands and German
18:45:57 <Abortion> The south is the French part of Belgium
18:46:00 <circle> are the flemish jewish?
18:46:00 <Tigger_> the northern Belgians want to secede from the south
18:46:00 <Abortion> err, no?
18:46:00 <circle> kk
18:46:00 <Abortion> there are a lot of Jews in Antwerp, but no, Judaism is certainly not prevalent
18:46:00 <Abortion> Antwerp is a historical trading post, which may explain why
18:46:09 <circle> are the flemish jewish?
18:46:11 <Tigger_> the northern Belgians want to secede from the south
18:46:16 <Abortion> err, no?
18:46:23 <circle> kk
18:46:36 <Abortion> there are a lot of Jews in Antwerp, but no, Judaism is certainly not prevalent
18:47:00 <Abortion> Antwerp is a historical trading post, which may explain why
18:47:00 <circle> merchants gonna merchant i guess
18:47:24 <circle> merchants gonna merchant i guess
18:48:00 <Abortion> Belgium is officially Catholic. From my reading, the Catholics flushed the protestants out of Flanders into the north, which is now modern day Netherlands
18:48:00 <Abortion> Which I'm actually a bit dissapointed about
18:48:00 <Abortion> There was a lot of intellectualism before that
18:48:15 <Abortion> Belgium is officially Catholic. From my reading, the Catholics flushed the protestants out of Flanders into the north, which is now modern day Netherlands
18:48:43 <Abortion> Which I'm actually a bit dissapointed about
18:48:58 <Abortion> There was a lot of intellectualism before that
18:49:00 <circle> interesting
18:49:00 <circle> are flemish women ugly?
18:49:00 <Tigger_> Belgium had a reasonably popular fascist party prior to WW2, thanks to the high ratio of Catholics
18:49:00 <Abortion> I don't think so, but you have already stated that you have different tastes, so...
18:49:19 <circle> interesting
18:49:25 <circle> are flemish women ugly?
18:49:47 <Tigger_> Belgium had a reasonably popular fascist party prior to WW2, thanks to the high ratio of Catholics
18:49:53 <Abortion> I don't think so, but you have already stated that you have different tastes, so...
18:53:00 <circle> whyd u ban androuser
18:53:00 <circle> he seemed cool
18:54:00 <Tigger_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rexist_Party
18:54:43 <Tigger_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rexist_Party
18:55:00 <Tigger_> skip will be back in a few hours
18:55:00 <Abortion> lol it was favoured in the south
18:55:00 <Tigger_> sometimes when reading Belgian comics I find myself having to look up references
18:55:19 <Abortion> lol it was favoured in the south
18:55:47 <Tigger_> sometimes when reading Belgian comics I find myself having to look up references
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19:26:00 <Warren1984> hey doctor
19:26:25 <Warren1984> hey doctor
19:28:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/travel/perth-man-lodges-complaint-after-copping-massive-uber-bill-on-new-years-eve/news-story/2a9d9f2596f19d7ba0f38a569b3fe574
19:28:00 <Warren1984> The normal fare for the 30-minute trip would have been $37.31. Due to Uber’s surge pricing, which increases fares via an algorithm at times of peak demand, he was hit with an 8.9 times multiplier, bringing the total fare to $332.06.
19:28:49 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/travel/perth-man-lodges-complaint-after-copping-massive-uber-bill-on-new-years-eve/news-story/2a9d9f2596f19d7ba0f38a569b3fe574
19:28:58 <Warren1984> The normal fare for the 30-minute trip would have been $37.31. Due to Uber’s surge pricing, which increases fares via an algorithm at times of peak demand, he was hit with an 8.9 times multiplier, bringing the total fare to $332.06.
19:30:00 <doctor> hey warren
19:30:15 <doctor> hey warren
19:33:00 <Tigger_> that doesn't seem like a very smart business model, signalling to potential customers that their wallet could get raped
19:33:54 <Tigger_> that doesn't seem like a very smart business model, signalling to potential customers that their wallet could get raped
19:44:00 <Warren1984> United Kingdom: Government Responds to Online Petition to Ban Donald Trump From Nation
19:44:00 <Warren1984> Uber is stupid
19:44:00 <Warren1984> I prefer a taxi
19:44:23 <Warren1984> United Kingdom: Government Responds to Online Petition to Ban Donald Trump From Nation
19:44:52 <Warren1984> Uber is stupid
19:44:56 <Warren1984> I prefer a taxi
19:45:00 <Warren1984> they say Uber you know the name of the person, because you see their picture before they pick you up
19:45:00 <Warren1984> yeah that says everything about a person
19:45:26 <Warren1984> they say Uber you know the name of the person, because you see their picture before they pick you up
19:45:35 <Warren1984> yeah that says everything about a person
19:47:00 <Tigger_> that would be good, if you can use it to prevent getting an Indian driver
19:47:23 <Tigger_> that would be good, if you can use it to prevent getting an Indian driver
20:01:00 <erlich> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2481963
20:01:00 <erlich> wazza
20:01:51 <erlich> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2481963
20:01:53 <erlich> wazza
20:02:00 <xm> i have wondered about that, how you can keep adding capacity to a NAS
20:02:00 <erlich> Hi, I have Aspergers and am also legally blind in one eye and about ¾ vision in the other.
20:02:00 <erlich> I came out of school right onto the DSP and did some tafe courses in IT in 2003. A cert 3 in general IT and cert 4 in Tech Support that I failed the project management module in because I was moving home on test days.
20:02:00 <erlich> I always see it said IT jobs are good for people with Aspergers but the reality is I have no experience and even the crappiest jobs that give less than my DSP require 3 to 5 years experience :( I was always under the impression entry level jobs were for people without experience until I tried to find a job.
20:02:00 <erlich> I'm now about to hit 31 with only ever having volunteer jobs or jobs in disability factory work jobs as well as a 6 month job as reception/admin for a training academy.
20:02:00 <erlich> My attention span is hopeless if i'm bored and if its something I don't like i can't bring myself to stick at it very long sadly :(
20:02:00 <erlich> I love PC's and I love video games. I also love Yu-Gi-Oh TCG and Magic the Gathering and those types of games.
20:02:17 <erlich> Hi, I have Aspergers and am also legally blind in one eye and about ¾ vision in the other.
20:02:20 <erlich> I came out of school right onto the DSP and did some tafe courses in IT in 2003. A cert 3 in general IT and cert 4 in Tech Support that I failed the project management module in because I was moving home on test days.
20:02:24 <erlich> I always see it said IT jobs are good for people with Aspergers but the reality is I have no experience and even the crappiest jobs that give less than my DSP require 3 to 5 years experience :( I was always under the impression entry level jobs were for people without experience until I tried to find a job.
20:02:29 <erlich> I'm now about to hit 31 with only ever having volunteer jobs or jobs in disability factory work jobs as well as a 6 month job as reception/admin for a training academy.
20:02:38 <erlich> My attention span is hopeless if i'm bored and if its something I don't like i can't bring myself to stick at it very long sadly :(
20:02:41 <erlich> I love PC's and I love video games. I also love Yu-Gi-Oh TCG and Magic the Gathering and those types of games.
20:03:00 <erlich> " I know Coles are big on hiring people with a disability." <--- interesting
20:03:00 <erlich> i know some big places are like that
20:03:00 <circle> what a loser
20:03:00 <circle> should be euthanised
20:03:08 <erlich> " I know Coles are big on hiring people with a disability." <--- interesting
20:03:13 <erlich> i know some big places are like that
20:03:51 <circle> what a loser
20:03:54 <circle> should be euthanised
20:04:00 <Tigger_> rather, people should be euthanised if they refuse to be cured of not having aspergers
20:05:01 <Tigger_> rather, people should be euthanised if they refuse to be cured of not having aspergers
20:06:00 <erlich> "I might be made redundant at my own job soon and just want to know what I'm possibly in for while searching for a job.
20:06:00 <erlich> So, what has your experience been?
20:06:00 <erlich> Why are you on it?
20:06:00 <erlich> good recruiting thread for #pd
20:06:00 <erlich> How long have you been on it?
20:06:00 <erlich> What are your interactions with Centrelink like? How often do you have to do them?
20:06:00 <erlich> Have you had to do any Work for the Dole programs or other things to keep your payment?"
20:06:00 <erlich> hey clowns lololololo. just give up aye. get on the D$P and join us cuzzlers on austnet irc. a haw haw haw
20:06:00 <doctor> I'll pay you $5 a bottle of worm joice
20:06:06 <erlich> "I might be made redundant at my own job soon and just want to know what I'm possibly in for while searching for a job.
20:06:09 <erlich> So, what has your experience been?
20:06:11 <erlich> Why are you on it?
20:06:12 <erlich> good recruiting thread for #pd
20:06:15 <erlich> How long have you been on it?
20:06:17 <erlich> What are your interactions with Centrelink like? How often do you have to do them?
20:06:20 <erlich> Have you had to do any Work for the Dole programs or other things to keep your payment?"
20:06:55 <erlich> hey clowns lololololo. just give up aye. get on the D$P and join us cuzzlers on austnet irc. a haw haw haw
20:07:01 <doctor> I'll pay you $5 a bottle of worm joice
20:08:00 <erlich> warren shoudl go for a new hipster angle, and claim drinking wormjuice will cleanse you of toxins
20:08:25 <erlich> warren shoudl go for a new hipster angle, and claim drinking wormjuice will cleanse you of toxins
20:09:00 <erlich> "The worms had to remove it from their system as it was far too toxic for them... imagine what it will do to the parasites inside you!"
20:09:11 <erlich> "The worms had to remove it from their system as it was far too toxic for them... imagine what it will do to the parasites inside you!"
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20:17:00 <doctor> yeah, just open up a blog catered towards bored house wives and get them to drink your worm wee
20:17:00 <erlich> and if you run out of worm wee just use borewater
20:17:14 <doctor> yeah, just open up a blog catered towards bored house wives and get them to drink your worm wee
20:17:56 <erlich> and if you run out of worm wee just use borewater
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20:19:00 <doctor> yeah they wouldn't know, as long as you portray yourself as a black lesbian shaman mastered in the art of hutu voodoo witch doctory
20:19:53 <doctor> yeah they wouldn't know, as long as you portray yourself as a black lesbian shaman mastered in the art of hutu voodoo witch doctory
20:20:00 <doctor> pictures of smiling slim super models and fat giggling babies will also help
20:20:00 <erlich> yes, lose weight from dysentery
20:20:24 <doctor> pictures of smiling slim super models and fat giggling babies will also help
20:20:52 <erlich> yes, lose weight from dysentery
20:21:00 <Warren1984> Allah Arbar
20:21:00 <Warren1984> Allahu Akbar
20:21:17 <Warren1984> Allah Arbar
20:21:47 <Warren1984> Allahu Akbar
20:21:56 <steven_> 2nd one
20:22:00 <steven_> 2nd one
20:22:00 <Warren1984> what did they do to that gay ISIS terrorist in the France attack?
20:22:00 <erlich> they made him watch hetero porn
20:22:00 <Warren1984> Marttin the Spanish lion
20:22:32 <Warren1984> what did they do to that gay ISIS terrorist in the France attack?
20:22:45 <erlich> they made him watch hetero porn
20:22:56 <Warren1984> Marttin the Spanish lion
20:22:58 <Tigger_> Clockwork Orange style
20:24:00 <Tigger_> Clockwork Orange style
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20:33:00 <SoupNazi> StevenBackshall
20:33:00 <SoupNazi> hes not an op in #afl_live
20:33:00 <SoupNazi> come in and pwn the faggot
20:33:43 <SoupNazi> StevenBackshall
20:33:50 <SoupNazi> hes not an op in #afl_live
20:33:55 <SoupNazi> come in and pwn the faggot
20:56:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_
20:56:00 <Warren1984> what are you making in the kitchen
20:56:00 <Warren1984> are you paying a lot of attention to detail with whatever you are doing?
20:56:00 <Warren1984> are you sustaining your attention on following through with your game
20:56:00 <Tigger_> I made falafel rolls earlier
20:56:13 <Warren1984> Tigger_
20:56:22 <Warren1984> what are you making in the kitchen
20:56:40 <Warren1984> are you paying a lot of attention to detail with whatever you are doing?
20:57:00 <Tigger_> no, with the game I'm not sustaining any attention at all, or following through
20:57:00 <Warren1984> yeah I remember you saying
20:57:00 <Warren1984> but I was just trying to motivate you
20:57:01 <Warren1984> are you sustaining your attention on following through with your game
20:57:04 <Tigger_> I made falafel rolls earlier
20:57:20 <Tigger_> no, with the game I'm not sustaining any attention at all, or following through
20:57:28 <Warren1984> yeah I remember you saying
20:57:35 <Warren1984> but I was just trying to motivate you
20:58:00 <Tigger_> motivate me how?
20:58:21 <Tigger_> motivate me how?
21:02:00 <circle> the fire rises
21:02:10 <circle> the fire rises
21:03:00 <ajnin> hello
21:03:00 <ajnin> my olds are away
21:03:00 <ajnin> so I have to water their garden
21:03:00 <ajnin> and my garden
21:03:00 <ajnin> takes a fucking hour
21:03:00 <ajnin> i dont know how they can be fucked to do it
21:03:00 <circle> watering a garden takes an hour?
21:03:00 <circle> crazy bro
21:03:00 <ajnin> yea
21:03:00 <circle> look into some sort of device to speed that shit up
21:03:14 <ajnin> hello
21:03:25 <ajnin> my olds are away
21:03:30 <ajnin> so I have to water their garden
21:03:36 <ajnin> and my garden
21:03:41 <ajnin> takes a fucking hour
21:03:53 <ajnin> i dont know how they can be fucked to do it
21:03:54 <circle> watering a garden takes an hour?
21:03:56 <circle> crazy bro
21:04:00 <ajnin> circle yea.. i got a sprinkler
21:04:00 <ajnin> i used that today
21:04:00 <ajnin> even with that it took ages
21:04:00 <circle> get a very long hose and a high pressure attachment that lets you turn the water on and off in your hand as needed
21:04:00 <ajnin> I think cause we had the cunt hot weather over the last few days
21:04:00 <ajnin> the ground is dry
21:04:02 <ajnin> yea
21:04:02 <circle> look into some sort of device to speed that shit up
21:04:14 <ajnin> circle yea.. i got a sprinkler
21:04:19 <ajnin> i used that today
21:04:29 <ajnin> even with that it took ages
21:04:45 <circle> get a very long hose and a high pressure attachment that lets you turn the water on and off in your hand as needed
21:04:46 <ajnin> I think cause we had the cunt hot weather over the last few days
21:04:50 <ajnin> the ground is dry
21:05:00 <ajnin> so it takes heaps and heaps of water
21:05:00 <ajnin> the thing is my mum loves hte garden
21:05:00 <circle> that's good
21:05:00 <ajnin> so i want it to be alive when she gets back
21:05:00 <circle> too many degeneos today think gardens are bad
21:05:00 <circle> degenos*
21:05:00 <ajnin> and also she feed all my pets 2 times a day for a month
21:05:00 <ajnin> so I owe her
21:05:20 <ajnin> so it takes heaps and heaps of water
21:05:28 <ajnin> the thing is my mum loves hte garden
21:05:38 <circle> that's good
21:05:41 <ajnin> so i want it to be alive when she gets back
21:05:43 <circle> too many degeneos today think gardens are bad
21:05:46 <circle> degenos*
21:05:53 <ajnin> and also she feed all my pets 2 times a day for a month
21:05:57 <ajnin> so I owe her
21:06:00 <ajnin> circle gardening is good
21:06:00 <ajnin> fresh fruit and vegis
21:06:00 <ajnin> its a good food supply when the zombies come
21:06:00 <ajnin> need to know how to do that shit
21:06:00 <ajnin> I do not :(
21:06:00 <ajnin> but I have chooks
21:06:00 <ajnin> so I will be able to trade eggs
21:06:00 <circle> haha
21:06:00 <circle> im just gonna steal shit
21:06:00 <circle> fuck these fags
21:06:06 <ajnin> circle gardening is good
21:06:12 <ajnin> fresh fruit and vegis
21:06:26 <ajnin> its a good food supply when the zombies come
21:06:33 <ajnin> need to know how to do that shit
21:06:35 <ajnin> I do not :(
21:06:43 <ajnin> but I have chooks
21:06:48 <ajnin> so I will be able to trade eggs
21:06:58 <circle> haha
21:07:00 <circle> they never did shit for me
21:07:00 <circle> ill kill them for their petrol
21:07:00 <circle> so i can save my family
21:07:00 <circle> in the zombie apocalpyse
21:07:00 <ajnin> i still have to live by christan values.. I cant kill people
21:07:00 <circle> that's good
21:07:00 <circle> you'll die early sadly
21:07:00 <circle> my only responsibility is to my family
21:07:00 <ajnin> unless....
21:07:00 <ajnin> they attack
21:07:00 <circle> i'll legit kill a little girl and roasts her body to give my dog some food
21:07:00 <ajnin> then selfdefence is OK
21:07:02 <circle> im just gonna steal shit
21:07:05 <circle> fuck these fags
21:07:07 <circle> they never did shit for me
21:07:10 <circle> ill kill them for their petrol
21:07:13 <circle> so i can save my family
21:07:19 <circle> in the zombie apocalpyse
21:07:36 <ajnin> i still have to live by christan values.. I cant kill people
21:07:42 <circle> that's good
21:07:44 <circle> you'll die early sadly
21:07:49 <circle> my only responsibility is to my family
21:07:51 <ajnin> unless....
21:07:54 <ajnin> they attack
21:07:57 <circle> i'll legit kill a little girl and roasts her body to give my dog some food
21:08:00 <ajnin> then selfdefence is OK
21:08:00 <ajnin> hahah
21:08:00 <ajnin> circle why not just shoot a roo ?
21:08:00 <circle> i'd do that too
21:08:00 <circle> but if we need food and there are no animals ill eat humans
21:08:00 <circle> don't want to have to but you know
21:08:00 <circle> better them than my family
21:08:06 <ajnin> hahah
21:08:15 <ajnin> circle why not just shoot a roo ?
21:08:33 <circle> i'd do that too
21:08:44 <circle> but if we need food and there are no animals ill eat humans
21:08:52 <circle> don't want to have to but you know
21:08:56 <circle> better them than my family
21:09:00 <ajnin> you go crazy if you eat to many people
21:09:00 <circle> you reckon
21:09:25 <ajnin> you go crazy if you eat to many people
21:09:33 <circle> you reckon
21:10:00 <ajnin> Depending on what parts are eaten (the most infected include the brain, spinal cord, bone marrow and small intestine), human cannibals run the risk of contracting a fatal prion malady, similar to Creutzfeld-Jacob disease (think Mad Cow), known as kuru
21:10:00 <ajnin> thanks wiki
21:10:00 <circle> thats a bit of a myth though, if you eat the brain and spinal cord of very old people you run a small risk of it yes
21:10:00 <ajnin> but also from flesh there is a madness
21:10:00 <circle> ill just eat the good parts though
21:10:00 <circle> ill find girls who squat heavy
21:10:00 <circle> and eat their butts literally
21:10:09 <ajnin> Depending on what parts are eaten (the most infected include the brain, spinal cord, bone marrow and small intestine), human cannibals run the risk of contracting a fatal prion malady, similar to Creutzfeld-Jacob disease (think Mad Cow), known as kuru
21:10:14 <ajnin> thanks wiki
21:10:29 <circle> thats a bit of a myth though, if you eat the brain and spinal cord of very old people you run a small risk of it yes
21:10:30 <ajnin> but also from flesh there is a madness
21:10:32 <circle> ill just eat the good parts though
21:10:49 <circle> ill find girls who squat heavy
21:10:53 <circle> and eat their butts literally
21:11:00 <ajnin> haha
21:11:00 <ajnin> ill get the fatties
21:11:00 <circle> but thats all fat
21:11:00 <ajnin> wargu ass
21:11:00 <circle> haha
21:11:00 <ajnin> nicly marbled
21:11:00 <ajnin> hahah
21:11:08 <ajnin> haha
21:11:16 <ajnin> ill get the fatties
21:11:21 <circle> but thats all fat
21:11:22 <ajnin> wargu ass
21:11:31 <circle> haha
21:11:32 <ajnin> nicly marbled
21:11:33 <ajnin> hahah
21:12:00 <circle> do you ever feel like you hate most of these cunts ajnin
21:12:00 <circle> that you see out in public
21:12:00 <ajnin> 100%
21:12:52 <circle> do you ever feel like you hate most of these cunts ajnin
21:12:55 <circle> that you see out in public
21:13:00 <circle> good
21:13:00 <circle> im feeling it right now
21:13:00 <ajnin> no its not good man
21:13:00 <ajnin> ill give you some old cunt advise
21:13:00 <ajnin> you need to accept people are fucked
21:13:00 <ajnin> look at me...
21:13:00 <ajnin> i cant even shop on weekends I hate people so much
21:13:00 <ajnin> i have to take sick days to go shopping
21:13:00 <circle> i have accepted it
21:13:00 <circle> but it makes me angry
21:13:00 <circle> thats the issue
21:13:03 <ajnin> 100%
21:13:06 <circle> good
21:13:10 <circle> im feeling it right now
21:13:12 <ajnin> no its not good man
21:13:25 <ajnin> ill give you some old cunt advise
21:13:32 <ajnin> you need to accept people are fucked
21:13:35 <ajnin> look at me...
21:13:45 <ajnin> i cant even shop on weekends I hate people so much
21:13:54 <ajnin> i have to take sick days to go shopping
21:13:54 <circle> i have accepted it
21:13:56 <circle> but it makes me angry
21:14:00 <ajnin> the rage will make you die
21:14:00 <circle> will it?
21:14:00 <ajnin> high blood purssure
21:14:00 <circle> true
21:14:00 <ajnin> stress
21:14:00 <circle> i need it though
21:14:00 <ajnin> all that shit.. lol
21:14:00 <circle> no point in living withour rage
21:14:00 <ajnin> circle!!!! fuck man.. no shit 10 years ago me and you would have fucking killed it
21:14:00 <ajnin> hahaah
21:14:00 <circle> hahaha
21:14:00 <circle> i need a m8 like you irl man
21:14:00 <circle> someone who has the same rage burning inside him
21:14:00 <ajnin> i used to super rage
21:14:02 <circle> thats the issue
21:14:06 <ajnin> the rage will make you die
21:14:09 <circle> will it?
21:14:11 <ajnin> high blood purssure
21:14:14 <circle> true
21:14:15 <ajnin> stress
21:14:16 <circle> i need it though
21:14:19 <ajnin> all that shit.. lol
21:14:19 <circle> no point in living withour rage
21:14:40 <ajnin> circle!!!! fuck man.. no shit 10 years ago me and you would have fucking killed it
21:14:41 <ajnin> hahaah
21:14:52 <circle> hahaha
21:14:55 <circle> i need a m8 like you irl man
21:15:00 <circle> someone who has the same rage burning inside him
21:15:00 <ajnin> once i could not shit a window
21:15:00 <ajnin> and my mate was laughing
21:15:00 <ajnin> and calling me a bitch
21:15:00 <ajnin> so I puched the window and smashed it
21:15:00 <circle> hahah
21:15:00 <ajnin> and my mate shit himself
21:15:00 <ajnin> hahaha
21:15:00 <ajnin> then I was 3 hours late for work!!
21:15:00 <ajnin> still worth it
21:15:00 <ajnin> felt of good
21:15:05 <ajnin> i used to super rage
21:15:13 <ajnin> once i could not shit a window
21:15:17 <ajnin> and my mate was laughing
21:15:20 <ajnin> and calling me a bitch
21:15:30 <ajnin> so I puched the window and smashed it
21:15:35 <circle> hahah
21:15:35 <ajnin> and my mate shit himself
21:15:36 <ajnin> hahaha
21:15:41 <ajnin> then I was 3 hours late for work!!
21:15:57 <ajnin> still worth it
21:16:00 <ajnin> so*
21:16:00 <ajnin> its weird
21:16:00 <circle> hahah
21:16:00 <circle> i bet it did feel good
21:16:00 <ajnin> you can feel the stress leaving the body
21:16:00 <circle> i want someone to attack me ajnin
21:16:00 <circle> i walk around wishing someone would attack me
21:16:00 <circle> or try start shit
21:16:00 <circle> but nobody does
21:16:00 <ajnin> circle go to kings street
21:16:00 <ajnin> 2am
21:16:00 <ajnin> in a single
21:16:01 <ajnin> felt of good
21:16:06 <ajnin> so*
21:16:14 <ajnin> its weird
21:16:23 <circle> hahah
21:16:26 <circle> i bet it did feel good
21:16:29 <ajnin> you can feel the stress leaving the body
21:16:40 <circle> i want someone to attack me ajnin
21:16:45 <circle> i walk around wishing someone would attack me
21:16:47 <circle> or try start shit
21:16:48 <circle> but nobody does
21:16:54 <ajnin> circle go to kings street
21:16:56 <ajnin> 2am
21:17:00 <ajnin> singlet
21:17:00 <circle> interesting
21:17:00 <ajnin> so cunts will start shit 100%
21:17:00 <ajnin> but be ready for some dirty lebo tatics
21:17:00 <ajnin> 5 on 1
21:17:00 <ajnin> hits from behind
21:17:00 <ajnin> I used to do MA when I was your age
21:17:00 <ajnin> and was always looking for a fight
21:17:00 <ajnin> lucky i never found any
21:17:03 <ajnin> in a single
21:17:06 <ajnin> singlet
21:17:11 <circle> interesting
21:17:12 <ajnin> so cunts will start shit 100%
21:17:23 <ajnin> but be ready for some dirty lebo tatics
21:17:25 <ajnin> 5 on 1
21:17:29 <ajnin> hits from behind
21:17:51 <ajnin> I used to do MA when I was your age
21:17:58 <ajnin> and was always looking for a fight
21:18:00 <circle> yeah
21:18:00 <circle> i always carry a good folding knife
21:18:00 <circle> in case shit goes crazy
21:18:00 <ajnin> its a loss loss man
21:18:00 <circle> and im getting killed
21:18:00 <ajnin> you win.. you prob get charged
21:18:00 <circle> exactly
21:18:00 <ajnin> you lose and your suck
21:18:00 <circle> but thats what you need to accept
21:18:00 <circle> the rage in the moment
21:18:00 <circle> makes u not care
21:18:00 <circle> even if u go to jail for 10 years
21:18:00 <ajnin> please tell me you dont have a spidy ?
21:18:02 <ajnin> lucky i never found any
21:18:21 <circle> yeah
21:18:24 <circle> i always carry a good folding knife
21:18:28 <circle> in case shit goes crazy
21:18:30 <ajnin> its a loss loss man
21:18:31 <circle> and im getting killed
21:18:38 <ajnin> you win.. you prob get charged
21:18:42 <circle> exactly
21:18:44 <ajnin> you lose and your suck
21:18:50 <circle> but thats what you need to accept
21:18:52 <circle> the rage in the moment
21:18:54 <circle> makes u not care
21:18:59 <circle> even if u go to jail for 10 years
21:19:00 <circle> nah i have some chinese one i got a while back
21:19:00 <circle> but its sharp af
21:19:00 <circle> and strong
21:19:00 <ajnin> you better that a ZT or benchmade or something
21:19:00 <circle> could drive this thing into someones neck
21:19:00 <ajnin> but its a good idea not to carry a knife
21:19:00 <circle> i was looking at getting a benchmade
21:19:00 <ajnin> benchmades are wonderful
21:19:00 <circle> yeah they look good
21:19:00 <circle> idk man
21:19:00 <circle> without a knife im defenceless
21:19:00 <circle> if theres more than 1 guy attacking me
21:19:00 <circle> i would never initiate with it
21:19:00 <circle> ever
21:19:04 <ajnin> please tell me you dont have a spidy ?
21:19:17 <circle> nah i have some chinese one i got a while back
21:19:19 <circle> but its sharp af
21:19:20 <circle> and strong
21:19:24 <ajnin> you better that a ZT or benchmade or something
21:19:24 <circle> could drive this thing into someones neck
21:19:31 <ajnin> but its a good idea not to carry a knife
21:19:35 <circle> i was looking at getting a benchmade
21:19:43 <ajnin> benchmades are wonderful
21:19:48 <circle> yeah they look good
21:19:51 <circle> idk man
21:19:54 <circle> without a knife im defenceless
21:19:58 <circle> if theres more than 1 guy attacking me
21:20:00 <circle> or even use it in a nroaml fight
21:20:00 <circle> just to stop myself from dying
21:20:00 <ajnin> I think your better off carrying a tack pen
21:20:00 <ajnin> much hard to kill someone
21:20:01 <circle> i would never initiate with it
21:20:01 <circle> ever
21:20:05 <circle> or even use it in a nroaml fight
21:20:08 <circle> just to stop myself from dying
21:20:54 <ajnin> I think your better off carrying a tack pen
21:21:00 <ajnin> but just as easy to stop them
21:21:00 <ajnin> good self defence
21:21:00 <cherri_pie> wassup pd
21:21:00 <ajnin> I am swining to the bass
21:21:00 <ajnin> swining to gutar
21:21:00 <ajnin> in the back of my car
21:21:00 <circle> thats the issue though ajnin
21:21:00 <ajnin> haha
21:21:00 <circle> what if there are 5 guys
21:21:00 <circle> kicking me to death
21:21:01 <ajnin> much hard to kill someone
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21:21:08 <ajnin> but just as easy to stop them
21:21:13 <ajnin> good self defence
21:21:15 <cherri_pie> wassup pd
21:21:34 <ajnin> I am swining to the bass
21:21:40 <ajnin> swining to gutar
21:21:52 <ajnin> in the back of my car
21:21:53 <circle> thats the issue though ajnin
21:21:53 <ajnin> haha
21:21:55 <circle> what if there are 5 guys
21:21:58 <circle> kicking me to death
21:22:00 <ajnin> circle a knife aint going to help you in that sisuation
21:22:00 <circle> maybe it will stop it from getting to that situation
21:22:00 <cherri_pie> a gun might help
21:22:00 <circle> stab a fuck cunts in the heart or neck
21:22:00 <circle> then run
21:22:00 <ajnin> best way to win a fight is to avoid a fight
21:22:00 <cherri_pie> true good advice
21:22:00 <cherri_pie> anger doesnt help anyone, and i have an anger problem myself
21:22:18 <ajnin> circle a knife aint going to help you in that sisuation
21:22:30 <circle> maybe it will stop it from getting to that situation
21:22:35 <cherri_pie> a gun might help
21:22:36 <circle> stab a fuck cunts in the heart or neck
21:22:37 <circle> then run
21:22:40 <ajnin> best way to win a fight is to avoid a fight
21:22:45 <cherri_pie> true good advice
21:23:00 <cherri_pie> anger doesnt help anyone, and i have an anger problem myself
21:23:00 <cherri_pie> its affected my life alot and ive wasted plenty of energy on stupid things
21:23:24 <cherri_pie> its affected my life alot and ive wasted plenty of energy on stupid things
21:24:00 <ajnin> http://www.extac.com.au/hardcore-hardware-twi02-tactical-pen-black
21:24:00 <ajnin> cherri_pie thats right
21:24:00 <ajnin> the good thing is you can see that
21:24:00 <ajnin> some people will never see it
21:24:39 <ajnin> http://www.extac.com.au/hardcore-hardware-twi02-tactical-pen-black
21:24:52 <ajnin> cherri_pie thats right
21:24:56 <ajnin> the good thing is you can see that
21:25:00 <ajnin> and end up old and bitter and with nothing
21:25:00 <cherri_pie> truee
21:25:00 <circle> would that do much ajnin
21:25:00 <cherri_pie> id get therapy if i could afford it
21:25:00 <cherri_pie> people dont realise how much happiness and being calm can help your life
21:25:00 <circle> why are you angry cherri_pie
21:25:00 <cherri_pie> alot of the time it embarrases the people you get angry at anyway
21:25:00 <cherri_pie> i could list a million things circle
21:25:03 <ajnin> some people will never see it
21:25:12 <ajnin> and end up old and bitter and with nothing
21:25:17 <cherri_pie> truee
21:25:23 <circle> would that do much ajnin
21:25:23 <cherri_pie> id get therapy if i could afford it
21:25:38 <cherri_pie> people dont realise how much happiness and being calm can help your life
21:25:41 <circle> why are you angry cherri_pie
21:25:50 <cherri_pie> alot of the time it embarrases the people you get angry at anyway
21:26:00 <cherri_pie> i could list a million things circle
21:26:00 <circle> whats the big one cherri_pie
21:26:00 <circle> my anger is that i see the world as unfair
21:26:00 <ajnin> FUCK
21:26:00 <ajnin> circle now look what I found
21:26:00 <ajnin> http://www.extac.com.au/msm-pork-eating-crusader-band-large-sage
21:26:00 <ajnin> I am getting one tonight
21:26:16 <circle> whats the big one cherri_pie
21:26:22 <circle> my anger is that i see the world as unfair
21:26:39 <ajnin> FUCK
21:26:44 <ajnin> circle now look what I found
21:26:45 <ajnin> http://www.extac.com.au/msm-pork-eating-crusader-band-large-sage
21:26:51 <ajnin> I am getting one tonight
21:27:00 <circle> what are they for
21:27:00 <ajnin> pissing off muzzies
21:27:00 <circle> hahaha
21:27:00 <circle> i like the concept
21:27:00 <circle> funny thing tho i dont eat pork any more for concern about how the pigs are treated
21:27:00 <ajnin> circle all animals are treaded like fucking shit
21:27:17 <circle> what are they for
21:27:26 <ajnin> pissing off muzzies
21:27:29 <circle> hahaha
21:27:32 <circle> i like the concept
21:27:41 <circle> funny thing tho i dont eat pork any more for concern about how the pigs are treated
21:28:00 <ajnin> circle all animals are treaded like fucking shit
21:28:00 <ajnin> australia is not to bad
21:28:00 <ajnin> its still bad
21:28:00 <ajnin> but no too bad
21:28:00 <ajnin> the US is fuked
21:28:00 <ajnin> and other places even more fucked
21:28:00 <circle> yep
21:28:00 <ajnin> .eu is like australia
21:28:00 <circle> i saw a vid recently of how they 'stun' pigs with co2
21:28:00 <circle> shit is horrific man
21:28:00 <circle> im not against meat, i eat it and need it
21:28:00 <circle> but i gotta limit the excesses
21:28:00 <Abortion> erlich: Who was that written by?
21:28:06 <ajnin> australia is not to bad
21:28:08 <ajnin> its still bad
21:28:11 <ajnin> but no too bad
21:28:16 <ajnin> the US is fuked
21:28:21 <ajnin> and other places even more fucked
21:28:23 <circle> yep
21:28:28 <ajnin> .eu is like australia
21:28:33 <circle> i saw a vid recently of how they 'stun' pigs with co2
21:28:35 <circle> shit is horrific man
21:28:39 <circle> im not against meat, i eat it and need it
21:28:45 <circle> but i gotta limit the excesses
21:29:03 <Abortion> erlich: Who was that written by?
21:31:00 <Abortion> Oh I was scrolled back
21:32:00 <Abortion> Didn't connect the context from the link posted prior either
21:32:05 <Abortion> Oh I was scrolled back
21:32:23 <Abortion> Didn't connect the context from the link posted prior either
21:33:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_'s favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSM3w1v-A_Y
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21:39:00 <Abortion> CO2 is nasty because our lungs react to it
21:39:00 <Abortion> All mammals I presume
21:39:00 <circle> not really our lungs
21:39:00 <circle> but we detect co2 build up
21:39:00 <circle> thats what makes us feel like we are suffocating
21:39:00 <circle> not detecting lack of oxygen
21:39:28 <Abortion> CO2 is nasty because our lungs react to it
21:39:39 <Abortion> All mammals I presume
21:39:52 <circle> not really our lungs
21:39:56 <circle> but we detect co2 build up
21:40:00 <circle> but excess co2
21:40:00 <Abortion> Well yes
21:40:00 <circle> so co2 gassing is the worst possible way to die
21:40:00 <circle> yet they think its fine
21:40:00 <Abortion> As I said, we react to CO2
21:40:00 <Abortion> If it was really asphyxiation they wanted, they should really be using nitrogen
21:40:00 <circle> yep
21:40:00 <circle> exactly
21:40:00 <circle> fucking madness
21:40:01 <circle> thats what makes us feel like we are suffocating
21:40:04 <circle> not detecting lack of oxygen
21:40:06 <circle> but excess co2
21:40:06 <Abortion> Well yes
21:40:11 <circle> so co2 gassing is the worst possible way to die
21:40:16 <circle> yet they think its fine
21:40:21 <Abortion> As I said, we react to CO2
21:40:36 <Abortion> If it was really asphyxiation they wanted, they should really be using nitrogen
21:40:45 <circle> yep
21:40:46 <circle> exactly
21:40:51 <circle> fucking madness
21:43:00 <Abortion> That being said, I don't know about the mechanics of nitrogen dissolving in blood, if they're only trying to stun them, but nitrogen persists, it may be that nitrogen may only lead to death
21:43:30 <Abortion> That being said, I don't know about the mechanics of nitrogen dissolving in blood, if they're only trying to stun them, but nitrogen persists, it may be that nitrogen may only lead to death
21:48:00 <circle> doesnt matter
21:48:00 <circle> do it humanely or dont do it at all
21:48:00 <circle> hitler was planning to outlaw slaughterhouses after ww2
21:48:00 <circle> he considered them disgustingly inhumane
21:48:13 <circle> doesnt matter
21:48:26 <circle> do it humanely or dont do it at all
21:48:37 <circle> hitler was planning to outlaw slaughterhouses after ww2
21:48:42 <circle> he considered them disgustingly inhumane
21:49:00 <Abortion> Did you work out what country that was in? I wouldn't have thought the RSPCA would allow such a process here
21:49:00 <circle> australia
21:49:00 <Abortion> Hmm
21:49:00 <circle> watch this Abortion http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/animal-liberation-victoria-claims-pigs-suffer-horrific-deaths-when-killed-using-carbon-dioxide/news-story/c3194210f834052c9bc3b017a6304e8b
21:49:26 <Abortion> Did you work out what country that was in? I wouldn't have thought the RSPCA would allow such a process here
21:49:45 <circle> australia
21:50:00 <circle> the vide on that page
21:50:00 <Abortion> oh of course animal lib would state that
21:50:01 <Abortion> Hmm
21:50:04 <circle> watch this Abortion http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/animal-liberation-victoria-claims-pigs-suffer-horrific-deaths-when-killed-using-carbon-dioxide/news-story/c3194210f834052c9bc3b017a6304e8b
21:50:06 <circle> the vide on that page
21:50:17 <Abortion> oh of course animal lib would state that
21:51:00 <Abortion> Ah "Most pigs in Australia are killed by carbon dioxide"
21:51:00 <circle> its nothing to do with them stating shit
21:51:00 <circle> watch the vid
21:51:00 <circle> its from an australian slaughterhouse
21:51:00 <Abortion> ok I thought it was an unapproved practice, I am suprised and dissapointed it is industry standard
21:51:16 <Abortion> Ah "Most pigs in Australia are killed by carbon dioxide"
21:51:19 <circle> its nothing to do with them stating shit
21:51:21 <circle> watch the vid
21:51:26 <circle> its from an australian slaughterhouse
21:51:50 <Abortion> ok I thought it was an unapproved practice, I am suprised and dissapointed it is industry standard
21:52:00 <Abortion> erg news sites have a billion scripts
21:53:00 <Abortion> Fuck it
21:53:00 <circle> yeah its annoying
21:53:00 <Abortion> I do not approve of that style of web page
21:53:00 <circle> but watch the vid if u can man
21:53:00 <circle> its eye opening
21:53:00 <Abortion> Well its not, I know what it feels like when I'm running out of air (say underwater), the facts make it quite clear what would be happening
21:53:04 <Abortion> erg news sites have a billion scripts
21:53:16 <Abortion> Fuck it
21:53:18 <circle> yeah its annoying
21:53:25 <Abortion> I do not approve of that style of web page
21:53:25 <circle> but watch the vid if u can man
21:53:27 <circle> its eye opening
21:53:57 <Abortion> Well its not, I know what it feels like when I'm running out of air (say underwater), the facts make it quite clear what would be happening
21:54:00 <circle> heres the vide on youtube
21:54:00 <circle> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i23-WToCBIk
21:54:00 <Abortion> As I may have said, I've been in a situation while sailing when I was not sure I'd be able to obtain enough oxygen
21:54:12 <circle> heres the vide on youtube
21:54:13 <circle> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i23-WToCBIk
21:54:20 <Abortion> As I may have said, I've been in a situation while sailing when I was not sure I'd be able to obtain enough oxygen
21:55:00 <Abortion> One thing I can say though, I wouldn't be screaming if I was running out of air
21:55:31 <Abortion> One thing I can say though, I wouldn't be screaming if I was running out of air
21:56:00 <Abortion> Then again, they wouldn't and I wouldn't neccessarily know that it was the air itself which was causing my pain
21:56:08 <Abortion> Then again, they wouldn't and I wouldn't neccessarily know that it was the air itself which was causing my pain
21:57:00 <Abortion> Another, less humane thing is, surely such stress would toughen the meat, which I thought wasnt good for the end product
21:57:52 <Abortion> Another, less humane thing is, surely such stress would toughen the meat, which I thought wasnt good for the end product
21:59:00 <circle> doubt it changes much
21:59:00 <Abortion> Wait, that looked like a bleeding death thing, like they do for halal and kosher, but I was under the impression that pork was forbidden in both
21:59:00 <circle> the chinese believe killing animals cruelly makes them taste nicer
21:59:00 <Abortion> I'd believe that, it wasn't until relatively recently that live mokey brains was a thing
21:59:09 <circle> doubt it changes much
21:59:15 <Abortion> Wait, that looked like a bleeding death thing, like they do for halal and kosher, but I was under the impression that pork was forbidden in both
21:59:17 <circle> the chinese believe killing animals cruelly makes them taste nicer
21:59:50 <Abortion> I'd believe that, it wasn't until relatively recently that live mokey brains was a thing
22:00:00 <circle> wtf
22:00:00 <Abortion> yeah no kidding
22:00:00 <circle> WTF
22:00:00 <circle> we should fucking kill every chinese person on earth
22:00:20 <circle> wtf
22:00:29 <Abortion> yeah no kidding
22:00:32 <circle> WTF
22:00:39 <circle> we should fucking kill every chinese person on earth
22:01:00 <Abortion> lol you want to repay barbarism with only slighly less barbaric barbarism
22:01:00 <Abortion> Trade is the only language anyone has ever truely spoken
22:01:08 <Abortion> lol you want to repay barbarism with only slighly less barbaric barbarism
22:01:38 <Abortion> Trade is the only language anyone has ever truely spoken
22:02:00 <Abortion> Full embargo, but from a political point of view, thats just as darastic
22:02:00 <Abortion> *drastic
22:02:37 <Abortion> Full embargo, but from a political point of view, thats just as darastic
22:02:45 <Abortion> *drastic
22:03:00 <Abortion> A lot of chinese don't relish in that though, It'd be mostly high officials. Probably a veblen good
22:03:00 <Abortion> if my understanding of Tigger_'s usage of the word is correct
22:03:45 <Abortion> A lot of chinese don't relish in that though, It'd be mostly high officials. Probably a veblen good
22:03:56 <Abortion> if my understanding of Tigger_'s usage of the word is correct
22:04:00 <circle> chinese people have very little empathy
22:04:00 <circle> they wont even help a little girl dying on the street
22:04:00 <circle> much less animals
22:04:00 <Abortion> I think thats a symptom of modern china
22:04:00 <Abortion> Things there have been strange since the communists came in, started with communism, then moved to... something else
22:04:16 <circle> chinese people have very little empathy
22:04:22 <circle> they wont even help a little girl dying on the street
22:04:26 <circle> much less animals
22:04:36 <Abortion> I think thats a symptom of modern china
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22:04:59 <Abortion> Things there have been strange since the communists came in, started with communism, then moved to... something else
22:05:00 <Abortion> One classification I've heard is state capitalism
22:05:27 <Abortion> One classification I've heard is state capitalism
22:06:00 <Abortion> The one child policy has also resulted in some warped thinking
22:06:00 <circle> true
22:06:00 <circle> collectivist societies are often the least caring
22:06:00 <circle> individualist societies the most
22:06:25 <Abortion> The one child policy has also resulted in some warped thinking
22:06:37 <circle> true
22:06:45 <circle> collectivist societies are often the least caring
22:06:52 <circle> individualist societies the most
22:07:00 <Abortion> I don't think thats the primary variable at play here
22:07:00 <Abortion> I imagine it has more to do with corruption
22:07:21 <Abortion> I don't think thats the primary variable at play here
22:08:00 <Abortion> India isn't collectivist either, for example
22:08:00 <Abortion> They came out with a lot of constitution after the british left
22:08:05 <Abortion> I imagine it has more to do with corruption
22:08:17 <Abortion> India isn't collectivist either, for example
22:08:39 <Abortion> They came out with a lot of constitution after the british left
22:09:00 <circle> india is far less cruel to animals than china
22:10:00 <Abortion> In fact, I am tempted to think, as Tigger_ would call it, social capital
22:10:00 <Abortion> The caste system in Hinduism (rather than the Sikhs) is also pretty horrible
22:10:00 <Abortion> Sikhs practice a very different religion and culture
22:10:04 <circle> india is far less cruel to animals than china
22:10:08 <Abortion> In fact, I am tempted to think, as Tigger_ would call it, social capital
22:10:47 <Abortion> The caste system in Hinduism (rather than the Sikhs) is also pretty horrible
22:11:00 <Abortion> But they are both still indian
22:11:00 <Abortion> The Sikhs are generally considered to be better
22:11:01 <Abortion> Sikhs practice a very different religion and culture
22:11:14 <Abortion> But they are both still indian
22:11:22 <Abortion> The Sikhs are generally considered to be better
22:15:00 <circle> india is far less cruel to animals than china
22:15:00 <Abortion> That is a single factor, by which you can't judge a whole race by
22:15:00 <Abortion> especially considering that within each race, there are seperate cultural groups
22:15:29 <circle> india is far less cruel to animals than china
22:15:49 <Abortion> That is a single factor, by which you can't judge a whole race by
22:16:00 <Abortion> especially considering that within each race, there are seperate cultural groups
22:16:00 <Abortion> and in china, its large enough, you could consider there to be many racial groups too
22:16:00 <Abortion> Taiwan is also composed of Han Chinese primarily, and is a much better society
22:16:14 <Abortion> and in china, its large enough, you could consider there to be many racial groups too
22:16:48 <Abortion> Taiwan is also composed of Han Chinese primarily, and is a much better society
22:17:00 <Abortion> My sense is still that it comes from what happens in the top echelons, because everyone strives for that
22:17:00 <Abortion> and thus why I said corruption
22:17:31 <Abortion> My sense is still that it comes from what happens in the top echelons, because everyone strives for that
22:17:36 <Abortion> and thus why I said corruption
22:18:00 <Abortion> You could also go into the whole surveillence thing, and compare east germany and west germany, where the east has the Stasi
22:18:31 <Abortion> You could also go into the whole surveillence thing, and compare east germany and west germany, where the east has the Stasi
22:19:00 <Abortion> Which is a strong factor in social capital. Suspiscion of your fellow man makes you a lot more nervous to trust others
22:19:10 <Abortion> Which is a strong factor in social capital. Suspiscion of your fellow man makes you a lot more nervous to trust others
22:20:00 <Abortion> *had (Germany being united now)
22:20:33 <Abortion> *had (Germany being united now)
22:21:00 <circle> perhaps
22:21:00 <circle> you may be right
22:21:00 <circle> germans are very kind to animals
22:21:09 <circle> perhaps
22:21:26 <circle> you may be right
22:21:29 <circle> germans are very kind to animals
22:24:00 <Abortion> To extrapolate, the US surveillence systems concern me for similar reasons. My prediction is that increasing suspiscion will decrease social capital there.
22:24:14 <Abortion> To extrapolate, the US surveillence systems concern me for similar reasons. My prediction is that increasing suspiscion will decrease social capital there.
22:25:00 <circle> interesting
22:25:00 <circle> probably true
22:25:00 <Abortion> its not quite gotten to the stage where people fear for their free speech yet, not significantly anyway. So for now its ok
22:25:16 <circle> interesting
22:25:18 <circle> probably true
22:26:00 <Abortion> There have been murmurs, but mostly only in the computer security field
22:26:01 <Abortion> its not quite gotten to the stage where people fear for their free speech yet, not significantly anyway. So for now its ok
22:26:22 <Abortion> There have been murmurs, but mostly only in the computer security field
22:27:00 <Abortion> For now they have been as upfront as possible about it, because they know that if it is not in the open that they did it, being taken down will not lead to matyrdom
22:27:00 <Abortion> People have been raided though
22:27:06 <Abortion> For now they have been as upfront as possible about it, because they know that if it is not in the open that they did it, being taken down will not lead to matyrdom
22:27:46 <Abortion> People have been raided though
22:30:00 <cherri_pie> everyone is corrupted
22:30:00 <Abortion> Possibly because there is a chilling effect, and then there is outright fear
22:30:00 <Abortion> The chilling effect is a lot more subtle, so it doesn't prompt a large response
22:30:07 <cherri_pie> everyone is corrupted
22:30:17 <Abortion> Possibly because there is a chilling effect, and then there is outright fear
22:31:03 <Abortion> The chilling effect is a lot more subtle, so it doesn't prompt a large response
22:38:00 <circle> thats always the big issue with laws that abridge free speech Abortion
22:38:00 <circle> people say hey there are only a couple proseuctions a year its not doing anything
22:38:00 <circle> but the truth is its doing much more than people realise
22:38:00 <circle> people start to self censor
22:38:38 <circle> thats always the big issue with laws that abridge free speech Abortion
22:38:48 <circle> people say hey there are only a couple proseuctions a year its not doing anything
22:38:54 <circle> but the truth is its doing much more than people realise
22:38:57 <circle> people start to self censor
22:40:00 <Marttin> the biggest free speech lie there is is poverty, and america knows a lot about that
22:41:01 <Marttin> the biggest free speech lie there is is poverty, and america knows a lot about that
22:46:00 <Abortion> Yep, thats the chilling effect
22:46:00 <Abortion> people subtley change their behaviour
22:46:10 <Abortion> Yep, thats the chilling effect
22:46:24 <Abortion> people subtley change their behaviour
22:49:00 <Marttin> on the earlies 1970 (with mao) shangai had a lower infant mortality than new york
22:49:16 <Marttin> on the earlies 1970 (with mao) shangai had a lower infant mortality than new york
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22:51:00 <Marttin> many of you dont seem to understand in the slightliest way a world of welfare without consumism
22:51:00 <Marttin> hi wazza
22:51:16 <Marttin> many of you dont seem to understand in the slightliest way a world of welfare without consumism
22:51:21 <Marttin> hi wazza
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23:30:00 <circle> the fire rises
23:30:27 <circle> the fire rises
23:32:00 <erlich> lol Marttin
23:32:00 <erlich> the passionate socialist
23:32:37 <erlich> lol Marttin
23:32:42 <erlich> the passionate socialist
23:34:00 <wazza> hey Marttin
23:34:00 <wazza> erlich
23:35:00 <wazza> hey Marttin
23:35:00 <Marttin> hi
23:35:00 <erlich> Warren1984:
23:35:02 <wazza> erlich
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23:35:08 <Marttin> hi
23:35:15 <erlich> Warren1984:
23:38:00 <Warren1984> erlich's favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSM3w1v-A_Y
23:38:58 <Warren1984> erlich's favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSM3w1v-A_Y
23:41:00 <erlich> White was the color of deepest mourning among medieval European queens was white rather than black. This tradition survived in Spain until the end of the fifteenth century.
23:41:00 <erlich> Read more at: http://www.sensationalcolor.com/color-meaning/color-meaning-symbolism-psychology/all-about-the-color-white-4369#.VoZzv4Qrf9k
23:41:00 <erlich> so not just Asians too
23:41:00 <erlich> i do like that song
23:41:24 <erlich> White was the color of deepest mourning among medieval European queens was white rather than black. This tradition survived in Spain until the end of the fifteenth century.
23:41:28 <erlich> Read more at: http://www.sensationalcolor.com/color-meaning/color-meaning-symbolism-psychology/all-about-the-color-white-4369#.VoZzv4Qrf9k
23:41:31 <erlich> so not just Asians too
23:41:45 <erlich> i do like that song
23:42:00 <Marttin> didnt know it
23:42:59 <Marttin> didnt know it
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