// #politicaldebate — 2015-10-08
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00:03:00 <Warren1984> xm what Justin Bieber Roast
00:03:00 <Warren1984> at 9:50pm
00:03:00 <xm> who is doing it?
00:03:02 <Warren1984> xm what Justin Bieber Roast
00:03:13 <Warren1984> at 9:50pm
00:03:16 <xm> who is doing it?
00:11:00 <Warren1984> channel 9
00:11:00 <Warren1984> http://www.yourtv.com.au/guide/perth/
00:11:07 <Warren1984> channel 9
00:11:14 <Warren1984> http://www.yourtv.com.au/guide/perth/
00:13:00 <Warren1984> we watched a capacitor explode
00:13:00 <Warren1984> it nearly hit me
00:13:00 <Warren1984> the lecturer did it
00:13:13 <Warren1984> we watched a capacitor explode
00:13:19 <Warren1984> it nearly hit me
00:13:29 <Warren1984> the lecturer did it
00:15:00 <xm> ROFL
00:15:00 <xm> was it intentional?
00:15:00 <xm> obviously not to hit you
00:15:00 <xm> but to make it explode
00:15:06 <xm> ROFL
00:15:11 <xm> was it intentional?
00:15:14 <xm> obviously not to hit you
00:15:18 <xm> but to make it explode
00:17:00 <Warren1984> yeah intentional
00:17:00 <Warren1984> I thought it would be a soft pop
00:17:00 <Warren1984> but it was really loud
00:17:00 <Warren1984> one just smoked up
00:17:00 <Warren1984> and it was extremely hot
00:17:00 <Warren1984> burnt my fingers
00:17:08 <Warren1984> yeah intentional
00:17:17 <Warren1984> I thought it would be a soft pop
00:17:24 <Warren1984> but it was really loud
00:17:29 <Warren1984> one just smoked up
00:17:34 <Warren1984> and it was extremely hot
00:17:38 <Warren1984> burnt my fingers
00:18:00 <Warren1984> the other poped after the lecturer left it a while then as he walked up to it, it exploded
00:18:00 <Warren1984> but it was only a small one
00:18:00 <Warren1984> the one that nearly hit me was big
00:18:10 <Warren1984> the other poped after the lecturer left it a while then as he walked up to it, it exploded
00:18:16 <Warren1984> but it was only a small one
00:18:25 <Warren1984> the one that nearly hit me was big
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00:47:00 <Warren1984> IvanTheBastard Russia is sending 150,000 troops
00:47:00 <IvanTheBastard> i hope so
00:47:05 <Warren1984> IvanTheBastard Russia is sending 150,000 troops
00:47:29 <IvanTheBastard> i hope so
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01:06:00 <xm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLE_emfAd74
01:06:00 <xm> wb Warren1984
01:06:00 <xm> oh i better bring that bot back in
01:06:00 <Warren1984> thanks xm
01:06:00 <Warren1984> my Mum is on skype and I can't hear the TV
01:06:00 <Warren1984> so I came back on here
01:06:00 <xm> there is a mental illness hospital thing on channel 2
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01:06:07 <xm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLE_emfAd74
01:06:09 <xm> wb Warren1984
01:06:15 <xm> oh i better bring that bot back in
01:06:15 <Warren1984> thanks xm
01:06:28 <Warren1984> my Mum is on skype and I can't hear the TV
01:06:34 <Warren1984> so I came back on here
01:07:01 <xm> there is a mental illness hospital thing on channel 2
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01:20:00 <Marttin> Where did you get that from warren? 150k soldiers
01:20:49 <Marttin> Where did you get that from warren? 150k soldiers
01:27:00 <Warren1984> youtube
01:27:34 <Warren1984> youtube
01:28:00 <xm> Tigger_, http://www.news.com.au/world/south-america/girl-possessed-by-the-devil-after-using-ouija-board-mobile-phone-app-in-peru/story-fnh81jzo-1227560369820
01:28:18 <xm> Tigger_, http://www.news.com.au/world/south-america/girl-possessed-by-the-devil-after-using-ouija-board-mobile-phone-app-in-peru/story-fnh81jzo-1227560369820
01:34:00 <xm> Warren1984, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq2FiPpfumc
01:34:00 <Warren1984> Marttin -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDsjYRgfJlI
01:34:55 <xm> Warren1984, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq2FiPpfumc
01:34:56 <Warren1984> Marttin -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDsjYRgfJlI
01:36:00 <Warren1984> did you make that xm?
01:36:11 <Warren1984> did you make that xm?
01:38:00 <xm> nope
01:38:00 <xm> but do you like it?
01:38:00 <Warren1984> not bad
01:38:26 <xm> nope
01:38:31 <xm> but do you like it?
01:38:54 <Warren1984> not bad
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01:48:00 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WnNGEJmFn8
01:48:20 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WnNGEJmFn8
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03:43:00 <simple> yeah
03:43:37 <simple> yeah
03:48:00 <simple> one day someone my care
03:48:57 <simple> one day someone my care
03:49:00 <simple> might
03:49:03 <simple> might
03:54:00 <simple> noone ever cares
03:54:00 <simple> ppl are retarded
03:54:17 <simple> noone ever cares
03:54:51 <simple> ppl are retarded
03:56:00 <simple> i just sit at home waiting to die
03:56:13 <simple> i just sit at home waiting to die
03:58:00 <simple> would be good one day to have someone to fucken talk too
03:59:00 <simple> would be good one day to have someone to fucken talk too
04:10:00 <doctor> need to get out there chris
04:10:13 <doctor> need to get out there chris
04:16:00 <simple> well im not gunna
04:16:00 <simple> they want me to suffer
04:16:00 <simple> so i will
04:16:23 <simple> well im not gunna
04:16:29 <simple> they want me to suffer
04:16:33 <simple> so i will
04:19:00 <simple> even fb rubs it in my face
04:19:00 <simple> putting a sarah in my top friends
04:19:00 <simple> i dont even look at that profile
04:19:12 <simple> even fb rubs it in my face
04:19:20 <simple> putting a sarah in my top friends
04:19:29 <simple> i dont even look at that profile
04:20:00 <simple> i have a fb in my real name u know how many ppl have look me up
04:20:00 <simple> ??
04:20:00 <simple> none
04:20:00 <simple> no one
04:20:53 <simple> i have a fb in my real name u know how many ppl have look me up
04:20:55 <simple> ??
04:20:57 <simple> none
04:21:00 <simple> no one
04:21:00 <simple> worlds full of scum
04:21:00 <simple> im the only human
04:21:14 <simple> worlds full of scum
04:21:20 <simple> im the only human
04:22:00 <simple> would be good one day to have a real friend
04:22:00 <simple> i never have
04:22:39 <simple> would be good one day to have a real friend
04:22:43 <simple> i never have
04:23:00 <doctor> it's sad because your reluctance to make any effort to change will probably end up killing you
04:23:00 <doctor> and I'd much rather you live and at least know how to deal with life a bit better
04:23:28 <doctor> it's sad because your reluctance to make any effort to change will probably end up killing you
04:23:45 <doctor> and I'd much rather you live and at least know how to deal with life a bit better
04:24:00 <simple> what try to kill myself with shrooms
04:24:00 <simple> find a woman
04:24:00 <simple> then cops come for another
04:24:49 <simple> what try to kill myself with shrooms
04:24:52 <simple> find a woman
04:25:00 <simple> tell me the fucken truth
04:25:00 <simple> or die
04:25:02 <simple> then cops come for another
04:25:13 <simple> tell me the fucken truth
04:25:16 <simple> or die
04:29:00 <simple> 1000 curses on your family
04:29:00 <simple> if u dont tell me the truth
04:29:31 <simple> 1000 curses on your family
04:29:49 <simple> if u dont tell me the truth
04:31:00 <simple> ive wanted to die since age of 13
04:31:59 <simple> ive wanted to die since age of 13
04:33:57 <simple> if ppl aint trying rub it in my face
04:34:08 <simple> why would they put a court date on valentines day
04:34:10 <simple> why would they put a court date on valentines day
04:34:11 <simple> why would they put a court date on valentines day
04:34:43 <simple> worlds scum
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04:41:23 <simple> then i get locked up
04:41:28 <simple> cause i get attacked
04:41:40 <simple> fuck man
04:41:45 <simple> i should fucken sue
04:42:46 <simple> if cops ever tell me do nething again i just gunna say i renouced australia
04:42:54 <simple> i live by my own rules
04:42:56 <simple> fuck off
04:44:15 <simple> they ever knock on my door i do them for tresspassing
04:45:54 <simple> mental health ever trys do nething to me
04:45:55 <simple> i sue
04:46:13 <simple> fucken years of taking meds that do nothing
04:46:31 <simple> until i become reliant on them
04:47:33 <simple> the depo was causeing my psychotic episodes when drinking
04:47:42 <simple> how is that helping me
04:48:52 <simple> it was based on drug they gave me when i first go sick
04:49:01 <simple> which they only kept me on for 2 weeks
04:49:08 <simple> becuase it was making me worse
04:49:23 <simple> and they forced me to have something made me worse
04:49:36 <simple> and then gave me more when i got upset
04:49:46 <simple> fucken scum
04:50:11 <simple> my head is finally stopped having to shake
04:50:15 <simple> when i drink coffee
04:50:17 <simple> and grog
04:50:57 <simple> fucken government poisoned me
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05:08:04 <doctor> please seek help chris
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05:40:33 <simple> now i lost my usb stick with all my music i made on it
05:40:36 <simple> fucken greaty
05:43:25 <simple> means i back up my music on pc
05:43:37 <simple> and give up on muisc
05:44:18 <simple> just gonna say i lost my mates one
05:44:21 <simple> use that
05:44:22 <simple> lols
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05:47:10 <simple> hi meg
05:47:13 <simple> :)
05:51:24 <simple> today i found out i lost my 16gig stick with 4 years of my music i made on it
05:51:31 <simple> lucky its all on my pc hdd
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05:53:41 <simple> glenn argghhh
05:53:50 <simple> i lost my usb stick with all my music on it
05:54:42 <simple> no more drugs or grog for me
05:54:48 <simple> if i can lose that
05:55:02 <simple> lucky its all on my hdd
05:55:10 <simple> all my ascii
05:55:15 <simple> techno songs
05:55:18 <simple> phew
05:55:42 <simple> oh ok
05:55:44 <simple> when then
05:56:04 <simple> i dont hold grudges
05:56:12 <simple> be adults
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07:04:13 <simple> youre not stalkers?
07:04:15 <simple> youre not stalkers?
07:04:22 <simple> why is my mobile phone banned
07:04:29 <simple> fucken scum
07:04:41 <simple> u fucken scum
07:05:25 <simple> fucken lowlifes
07:08:22 <simple> what are u trying to hide
07:08:33 <simple> that youre fucken peadofiles
07:08:43 <simple> fuck lowlife fucken scum
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09:14:00 <Marttin> Tisk doesnt realize this is the time no one really is on irc
09:14:00 <Marttin> Tisk doesnt realize this is the time no one really is on irc
09:16:00 <Tigger_> everyone can read it later though, and study it and take notes
09:16:20 <Tigger_> everyone can read it later though, and study it and take notes
09:17:00 <Marttin> Lol
09:17:38 <Marttin> Lol
09:31:04 <Glenn> Really?
09:34:00 <Marttin> Really what?
09:34:31 <Marttin> Really what?
09:35:00 <Marttin> Tisk wants someone to talk to him, but he comes at the wrong time for that purpose
09:35:03 <Marttin> Tisk wants someone to talk to him, but he comes at the wrong time for that purpose
09:59:18 <Glenn> ...mmmmm... 'cept that he was Z-Lined due to his inablility to control his behavioural issues whilst under the influence.
10:00:13 <Glenn> Comes in during the wee small hours, thinking ASD are asleep. Sometimes they are...
10:14:00 <Marttin> Aaaah, good point
10:14:45 <Marttin> Aaaah, good point
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12:06:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/metadata-laws-to-be-introduced-on-tuesday-but-there-are-still-some-unanswered-questions/story-fn5j66db-1227561529736
12:06:14 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/metadata-laws-to-be-introduced-on-tuesday-but-there-are-still-some-unanswered-questions/story-fn5j66db-1227561529736
12:11:00 <Abortion> yep
12:11:00 <Abortion> I bet ISPs still aren't ready
12:11:00 <Abortion> Whole new datacentres, redirecting routes, extra fibre
12:11:32 <Abortion> yep
12:11:40 <Abortion> I bet ISPs still aren't ready
12:11:59 <Abortion> Whole new datacentres, redirecting routes, extra fibre
12:12:00 <Abortion> shit idea
12:12:01 <Abortion> shit idea
12:23:00 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/sport/boxing/mma-cage-fighter-travis-wolford-poos-himself-in-the-ring-after-being-defeated-in-a-chokehold/story-fndkzthy-1227561582580
12:23:17 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/sport/boxing/mma-cage-fighter-travis-wolford-poos-himself-in-the-ring-after-being-defeated-in-a-chokehold/story-fndkzthy-1227561582580
12:39:00 <Tigger_Laptop> From Tuesday we will be paying a personal price for hunting down terrorists with the start of retention and extended storage of the metadata of every message we send.
12:39:00 <Tigger_Laptop> On that day a big chunk of the privacy we expect for our most personal communications will be sacrificed amid growing concerns about domestic terrorism.
12:39:51 <Tigger_Laptop> From Tuesday we will be paying a personal price for hunting down terrorists with the start of retention and extended storage of the metadata of every message we send.
12:39:51 <Tigger_Laptop> On that day a big chunk of the privacy we expect for our most personal communications will be sacrificed amid growing concerns about domestic terrorism.
12:40:00 <Tigger_Laptop> such a small price to pay for the wonderful benefits of multiculturalism
12:40:07 <Tigger_Laptop> such a small price to pay for the wonderful benefits of multiculturalism
12:44:00 <Abortion> I refuse to pay it. Terrorism has been almost a non-issue
12:44:00 <Abortion> Isolated incidents
12:44:00 <Tigger_Laptop> terrorism a non-issue? how?
12:44:31 <Abortion> I refuse to pay it. Terrorism has been almost a non-issue
12:44:43 <Abortion> Isolated incidents
12:44:54 <Tigger_Laptop> terrorism a non-issue? how?
12:45:00 <Abortion> Because Terror. If we were acutally being invaded, that'd be different
12:45:00 <Tigger_Laptop> we are being invaded
12:45:00 <Abortion> Terrorism is not invasion
12:45:00 <Abortion> Call it by its proper name then
12:45:00 <Tigger_Laptop> migration is invasion
12:45:23 <Abortion> Because Terror. If we were acutally being invaded, that'd be different
12:45:31 <Tigger_Laptop> we are being invaded
12:45:38 <Abortion> Terrorism is not invasion
12:45:44 <Abortion> Call it by its proper name then
12:45:45 <Tigger_Laptop> migration is invasion
12:46:00 <Tigger_Laptop> terrorism is the cream on top of the migration invasion
12:46:00 <Abortion> It is nonsense
12:46:00 <Abortion> The only invasion of concern is economic
12:46:11 <Tigger_Laptop> terrorism is the cream on top of the migration invasion
12:46:30 <Abortion> It is nonsense
12:46:42 <Abortion> The only invasion of concern is economic
12:47:00 <Abortion> Indians and Chinese are way ahead on that
12:47:00 <Tigger_Laptop> the migration invasion has incurred huge economic costs
12:47:00 <Abortion> A negligible part of which is terrorism
12:47:00 <Abortion> but for the reaction
12:47:00 <Abortion> which has had a far greater cost
12:47:01 <Abortion> Indians and Chinese are way ahead on that
12:47:10 <Tigger_Laptop> the migration invasion has incurred huge economic costs
12:47:34 <Abortion> A negligible part of which is terrorism
12:47:41 <Abortion> but for the reaction
12:47:48 <Abortion> which has had a far greater cost
12:48:00 <Tigger_Laptop> but back to the issue of the non-issue of terrorism, a single terrorist can commandeer a cafe in Sydney and take people hostage, the costs to business, not just for that particular cafe, but all the surrounding businesses must've run to many millions of dollars, on top of the millions it costs to have an armed response
12:48:00 <Tigger_Laptop> so yes, it's an issue, and a very major issue
12:48:39 <Tigger_Laptop> but back to the issue of the non-issue of terrorism, a single terrorist can commandeer a cafe in Sydney and take people hostage, the costs to business, not just for that particular cafe, but all the surrounding businesses must've run to many millions of dollars, on top of the millions it costs to have an armed response
12:49:00 <Tigger_Laptop> so yes, it's an issue, and a very major issue
12:49:00 <Abortion> The Man whatever idiot was known
12:49:00 <Abortion> they just did nothing about it
12:49:00 <Abortion> More monitoring won't help that
12:49:00 <Tigger_Laptop> he was one among thousands of persons of interest they were observing, it's hard to know which one is going to go full jihad at any particular time
12:49:02 <Abortion> The Man whatever idiot was known
12:49:22 <Abortion> they just did nothing about it
12:49:41 <Abortion> More monitoring won't help that
12:49:58 <Tigger_Laptop> he was one among thousands of persons of interest they were observing, it's hard to know which one is going to go full jihad at any particular time
12:50:00 <Abortion> Indeed
12:50:00 <Abortion> monitoring won't really help that
12:50:00 <Abortion> Especially not for individual cases
12:50:00 <Tigger_Laptop> it probably won't
12:50:00 <Abortion> It is like airport security
12:50:04 <Abortion> Indeed
12:50:11 <Abortion> monitoring won't really help that
12:50:21 <Abortion> Especially not for individual cases
12:50:22 <Tigger_Laptop> it probably won't
12:50:56 <Abortion> It is like airport security
12:51:00 <Abortion> will not stop anyone really determined
12:51:00 <Tigger_Laptop> Israel airport security does
12:51:00 <Abortion> lol I remember them critisising the backscatter machines
12:51:00 <Abortion> as ineffective
12:51:00 <Abortion> What we have is security theatre
12:51:00 <Tigger_Laptop> but they use racial profiling, which causes Australian leftists to have a fainting spell
12:51:07 <Abortion> will not stop anyone really determined
12:51:19 <Tigger_Laptop> Israel airport security does
12:51:34 <Abortion> lol I remember them critisising the backscatter machines
12:51:42 <Abortion> as ineffective
12:51:52 <Abortion> What we have is security theatre
12:51:52 <Tigger_Laptop> but they use racial profiling, which causes Australian leftists to have a fainting spell
12:52:00 <Abortion> I reckon socio-economic profiling would be far more effective
12:52:00 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_Laptop
12:52:00 <Tigger_Laptop> hi Warren1984
12:52:00 <Warren1984> hey Abortion
12:52:00 <Tigger_Laptop> what is socio-economic profiling?
12:52:00 <Abortion> Basically, if you're poor, your more likely to commit crime
12:52:29 <Abortion> I reckon socio-economic profiling would be far more effective
12:52:35 <Warren1984> hey Tigger_Laptop
12:52:39 <Tigger_Laptop> hi Warren1984
12:52:45 <Warren1984> hey Abortion
12:52:47 <Tigger_Laptop> what is socio-economic profiling?
12:53:00 <Abortion> Basically, if you're poor, your more likely to commit crime
12:53:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_Laptop -> http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/metadata-laws-to-be-introduced-on-tuesday-but-there-are-still-some-unanswered-questions/story-fn5j66db-1227561529736
12:53:48 <Warren1984> Tigger_Laptop -> http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/metadata-laws-to-be-introduced-on-tuesday-but-there-are-still-some-unanswered-questions/story-fn5j66db-1227561529736
12:54:00 <Tigger_Laptop> yes, but poverty crime is totally different to terrorism
12:54:00 <Tigger_Laptop> breaking in and stealing a TV is in no way equivalent
12:54:00 <Tigger_Laptop> yes, I read that warren
12:54:02 <Tigger_Laptop> yes, but poverty crime is totally different to terrorism
12:54:28 <Tigger_Laptop> breaking in and stealing a TV is in no way equivalent
12:54:38 <Tigger_Laptop> yes, I read that warren
12:55:00 <Abortion> thats all well and good for Israel, who would have terrorists go through their transit facilities, the arabs literally hate them. Here in australia, if they're going to do anything, it'll be part of migration and I doubt border scans will change that
12:55:00 <Abortion> why would terrorists bother using air services here for anything?
12:55:15 <Abortion> thats all well and good for Israel, who would have terrorists go through their transit facilities, the arabs literally hate them. Here in australia, if they're going to do anything, it'll be part of migration and I doubt border scans will change that
12:55:31 <Abortion> why would terrorists bother using air services here for anything?
12:56:00 <Tigger_Laptop> if they get it in their heads that airport security here is lax, they might be inclined to start entertaining the idea of hijacking a plane
12:56:00 <Abortion> it is lax
12:56:00 <Warren1984> Tigger_Laptop why don't Russia send their T-90's to Syria
12:56:24 <Tigger_Laptop> if they get it in their heads that airport security here is lax, they might be inclined to start entertaining the idea of hijacking a plane
12:56:49 <Abortion> it is lax
12:56:57 <Warren1984> Tigger_Laptop why don't Russia send their T-90's to Syria
12:57:00 <Tigger_Laptop> which is why the appearances of security are actually security in themselves, Wilson's Broken Windows Theory
12:57:00 <Abortion> The rigmarole they have here is basically useless
12:57:00 <Tigger_Laptop> but if it looks like security, it is security, even if it's not
12:57:00 <Abortion> Anyone smarter than a 11 year old who actually researches this would realise
12:57:00 <Tigger_Laptop> muslims are not usually smarter than an 11 year old
12:57:06 <Tigger_Laptop> which is why the appearances of security are actually security in themselves, Wilson's Broken Windows Theory
12:57:16 <Abortion> The rigmarole they have here is basically useless
12:57:36 <Tigger_Laptop> but if it looks like security, it is security, even if it's not
12:57:40 <Abortion> Anyone smarter than a 11 year old who actually researches this would realise
12:57:54 <Tigger_Laptop> muslims are not usually smarter than an 11 year old
12:58:00 <Abortion> It only takes a few
12:58:00 <Abortion> you could say that about most of the populus anyway
12:58:03 <Abortion> It only takes a few
12:58:18 <Abortion> you could say that about most of the populus anyway
12:59:00 <Tigger_Laptop> muslims typically come from low mean IQ nations, plus they have extremely high rates of consanguineous marriage, which produce stupid, inbred people
12:59:00 <Abortion> Doesn't matter what the majority is
12:59:00 <Abortion> unless they are literally incapable of producing someone capable of internet searches, there will be capable groups
12:59:00 <Tigger_Laptop> sure there are a few smart ones
12:59:20 <Tigger_Laptop> muslims typically come from low mean IQ nations, plus they have extremely high rates of consanguineous marriage, which produce stupid, inbred people
12:59:35 <Abortion> Doesn't matter what the majority is
12:59:56 <Abortion> unless they are literally incapable of producing someone capable of internet searches, there will be capable groups
12:59:58 <Tigger_Laptop> sure there are a few smart ones
13:02:00 <Abortion> The barrier for learning is even lower, once someone figures it out, the rest of their cell can be instructed on what to do
13:02:35 <Abortion> The barrier for learning is even lower, once someone figures it out, the rest of their cell can be instructed on what to do
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13:04:00 <dos> hello
13:04:00 <dos> dir
13:04:00 <Tigger_Laptop> to have a terrorist cell you need a few significant traits; at least one who has leadership ability to organise the others, one who is smart enough to analyse and plan a terrorist attack, to be deeply radicalised enough, to have the necessary degree of hostility, etc.
13:04:00 <dos> life is boring
13:04:24 <dos> hello
13:04:28 <dos> dir
13:04:33 <Tigger_Laptop> to have a terrorist cell you need a few significant traits; at least one who has leadership ability to organise the others, one who is smart enough to analyse and plan a terrorist attack, to be deeply radicalised enough, to have the necessary degree of hostility, etc.
13:04:58 <dos> life is boring
13:05:00 <dos> when ppl think they matter
13:05:00 <Tigger_Laptop> currently it's hard to get all these traits together to form an effective cell, but this could become easier over time
13:05:06 <dos> when ppl think they matter
13:05:11 <Tigger_Laptop> currently it's hard to get all these traits together to form an effective cell, but this could become easier over time
13:07:00 <Abortion> deeply radicalised and smart don't often go hand in hand
13:07:00 <dos> i bored
13:07:00 <dos> as
13:07:00 <Tigger_Laptop> they often do, quite a few muslim terrorists have had engineering and architecture degrees
13:07:00 <dos> substdir
13:07:00 <dos> A:\
13:07:12 <Abortion> deeply radicalised and smart don't often go hand in hand
13:07:34 <dos> i bored
13:07:36 <dos> as
13:07:43 <Tigger_Laptop> they often do, quite a few muslim terrorists have had engineering and architecture degrees
13:07:49 <dos> substdir
13:07:57 <dos> A:\
13:08:00 <Abortion> well I don't see how its hard then
13:08:00 <Abortion> I just think that most realise that an economic foothold is a much better long term solution
13:08:00 <Abortion> so only idiots try to do terrorist things
13:08:04 <Abortion> well I don't see how its hard then
13:08:24 <Abortion> I just think that most realise that an economic foothold is a much better long term solution
13:08:42 <Abortion> so only idiots try to do terrorist things
13:09:00 <Tigger_Laptop> but then you'd just be getting lots of false positives by profiling the poor, shoplifters instead of terrorists
13:09:00 <Abortion> You'd probably pick up the drug mules though
13:09:00 <dos> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48MgzEvAVzk&feature=youtu.be
13:09:04 <Tigger_Laptop> but then you'd just be getting lots of false positives by profiling the poor, shoplifters instead of terrorists
13:09:25 <Abortion> You'd probably pick up the drug mules though
13:09:43 <dos> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48MgzEvAVzk&feature=youtu.be
13:10:00 <dos> lag
13:10:00 <Tigger_Laptop> the best way to deal with drug mules is just to tip off Asian countries that they're there, so they have the expense of putting them on trial and executing them
13:10:24 <dos> lag
13:10:46 <Tigger_Laptop> the best way to deal with drug mules is just to tip off Asian countries that they're there, so they have the expense of putting them on trial and executing them
13:11:00 <Abortion> How would they know to tip them off though without checking
13:11:00 <Abortion> at which point they'd be required to detain anyway
13:11:49 <Abortion> How would they know to tip them off though without checking
13:11:55 <Abortion> at which point they'd be required to detain anyway
13:12:00 <Tigger_Laptop> apparently they have known, the Bali 9 were arrested from a tip off from Australian intelligence to the Indonesian authorities
13:12:00 <Tigger_Laptop> I don't know how they knew though
13:12:49 <Tigger_Laptop> apparently they have known, the Bali 9 were arrested from a tip off from Australian intelligence to the Indonesian authorities
13:12:56 <Tigger_Laptop> I don't know how they knew though
13:13:00 <Abortion> that was for something organised
13:13:00 <Abortion> I'm talking random drug mules
13:13:00 <Tigger_Laptop> a random drug mule still has to be connected to some organisation
13:13:00 <Abortion> They don't know all the organisations and all their activities
13:13:02 <Abortion> that was for something organised
13:13:07 <Abortion> I'm talking random drug mules
13:13:32 <Tigger_Laptop> a random drug mule still has to be connected to some organisation
13:13:44 <Abortion> They don't know all the organisations and all their activities
13:14:00 <Tigger_Laptop> no, but they seem to know some of them
13:14:00 <Abortion> unless we are talking completeness of observation of 1984, why not at the border, catch one, and you can trace it back. New leads
13:14:23 <Tigger_Laptop> no, but they seem to know some of them
13:14:50 <Abortion> unless we are talking completeness of observation of 1984, why not at the border, catch one, and you can trace it back. New leads
13:15:00 <Tigger_Laptop> they do do that, and it has been successfully applied
13:15:00 <Abortion> So whats wrong with socio-economic profiling then?
13:15:37 <Tigger_Laptop> they do do that, and it has been successfully applied
13:15:59 <Abortion> So whats wrong with socio-economic profiling then?
13:16:00 <Tigger_Laptop> it would fail a cost benefit analysis
13:16:55 <Tigger_Laptop> it would fail a cost benefit analysis
13:17:00 <Abortion> Yet Terrorism stuff doesn't
13:17:11 <Abortion> Yet Terrorism stuff doesn't
13:18:00 <Abortion> I guess political points are pretty valuable
13:18:00 <Tigger_Laptop> also there are common assumptions that are wrong, such as it is widely assumed people on welfare are drug users, statistically they're not, it's the employed in lower level occupations that do
13:18:08 <Abortion> I guess political points are pretty valuable
13:18:16 <Tigger_Laptop> also there are common assumptions that are wrong, such as it is widely assumed people on welfare are drug users, statistically they're not, it's the employed in lower level occupations that do
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13:22:00 <Tigger_Laptop> besides, you could monitor a million poor whites and not find a single terrorist, but monitor 10,000 random muslims and you're certainly going to find something useful
13:22:26 <Tigger_Laptop> besides, you could monitor a million poor whites and not find a single terrorist, but monitor 10,000 random muslims and you're certainly going to find something useful
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14:04:00 <Abortion> Drug users and drug mules don't neccessarily cross over. Employed people don't have reason nor time to be a mule
14:04:49 <Abortion> Drug users and drug mules don't neccessarily cross over. Employed people don't have reason nor time to be a mule
14:05:00 <Abortion> I take your point about the terrorist correlating with cultural and racial background
14:05:15 <Abortion> I take your point about the terrorist correlating with cultural and racial background
14:12:00 <Tigger_Laptop> I haven't looked too much into the backgrounds of drug mules, one common story they claim is that part of the enticement was a free holiday
14:12:00 <Tigger_Laptop> I think the Bali 9 met each other through work
14:12:12 <Tigger_Laptop> I haven't looked too much into the backgrounds of drug mules, one common story they claim is that part of the enticement was a free holiday
14:12:39 <Tigger_Laptop> I think the Bali 9 met each other through work
14:13:00 <Tigger_Laptop> yes, a catering company
14:13:36 <Tigger_Laptop> yes, a catering company
14:42:00 <Abortion> That is simply one example. Given that they were also organised, they were tracked down anyway
14:42:28 <Abortion> That is simply one example. Given that they were also organised, they were tracked down anyway
14:43:00 <Abortion> I would also posit that working as a caterer does not pay well
14:43:46 <Abortion> I would also posit that working as a caterer does not pay well
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15:49:00 <anotherirc3r> heya
15:49:26 <anotherirc3r> heya
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16:06:07 <Tigger_> hi anotherirc3r
16:06:15 <anotherirc3r> heya Tigger!
16:06:26 <Tigger_> what have you been up to?
16:06:40 <Tigger_> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3263714/Destroyed-man-reclaimed-nature-Amazing-images-reveal-exclusion-zone-Fukushima-abandoned-overgrown-wilderness.html
16:06:43 <Tigger_> good photos
16:07:22 <anotherirc3r> not alot.. just saw my friend yesterday and got home today
16:07:23 <anotherirc3r> you?
16:07:47 <Tigger_> I downloaded some Scooby Doo movies
16:07:58 <anotherirc3r> those photos look awesome!
16:08:18 <Tigger_> the end of the world is pretty cool
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16:17:09 <anotherirc3r> those photos remind me of those zombie movies
16:17:16 <anotherirc3r> heya doctor
16:19:03 <Tigger_> man is at war with nature, all it takes is a few years of neglect and nature has taken over again
16:21:47 <doctor> hey anotherirc3r
16:24:08 <Tigger_> hi doctor
16:24:15 <doctor> hey Tigger_
16:36:18 <ajnin> hello all
16:36:33 <ajnin> yea
16:36:37 <ajnin> like I am legand!!
16:36:41 <ajnin> how cool is that
16:36:51 <ajnin> all wild beasts in NY or whatever city he was in
16:38:05 <ajnin> why is there so many CRT's in japan
16:38:08 <ajnin> thats weird
16:38:17 <anotherirc3r> ajnin!
16:38:21 <ajnin> anotherirc3r!
16:38:28 <anotherirc3r> how's you?!
16:38:34 <ajnin> I am good...
16:38:38 <ajnin> how are you and your legs ?
16:38:47 <ajnin> smashed for the 1 hour of step ups ?
16:38:51 <ajnin> from*
16:39:09 <ajnin> brb cat is sooking need to feed her
16:39:50 <anotherirc3r> lol i am good thanks
16:39:55 <anotherirc3r> hungover so cbf exercising
16:48:14 <Tigger_> a good cure for hangovers is to not drink alcohol
16:48:23 <ajnin> Tigger_ thats a shit cure
16:48:33 <Tigger_> it is 100% effective
16:48:38 <ajnin> a good cure is water, panadole and exercise!
16:49:01 <ajnin> just cause something works does not make it good
16:50:56 <Tigger_> well it's good in many other ways too, such as it's free
16:52:53 <ajnin> I am going to the movies
16:53:13 <ajnin> going to check out the martin
16:53:55 <Tigger_> I'm looking forwards to it, since there's very little SF cinema these days
16:57:54 <ajnin> yea
16:58:03 <Abortion> SF as in Sci Fi?
16:58:07 <Abortion> Whats this?
16:58:09 <ajnin> i always see space movies at the cimera
16:58:30 <ajnin> I saw star trek at imax
16:58:32 <ajnin> loved it
16:58:45 <Tigger_> The Martian, about an astronaut stranded on Mars and has to survive Robinson Crusoe style
16:59:00 <Abortion> Ah right, the one with Matt Damon
16:59:04 <Tigger_> yes
16:59:24 <Abortion> I like Matt Damon, I don't care for many actors, but he is endearing
17:00:26 <ajnin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KuQ3nhpctA
17:00:28 <ajnin> hhaha
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17:03:52 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/oh-what-a-feeling-islamic-states-toyota-fleet-remains-unexplained/story-fnkgdhrc-1227561905891
17:03:55 <Warren1984> hey all
17:04:27 <Warren1984> I think they stole those Toyotas from Australia
17:05:19 <Warren1984> used tow trucks and putting them into seacontainers
17:05:30 <anotherirc3r> heya Warren :)
17:06:40 <Warren1984> hi Jen :)
17:07:04 <Tigger_> you're right that they must've stolen them somehow, a big purchase would be traceable
17:08:05 <Abortion> Haha, Headline on Slashdot (to paraphrase) a remarkable number of people think The Martian is based on a true story
17:09:34 <Tigger_> lol
17:10:21 <Tigger_> when Robinson Crusoe was first published many believed it was real, while others didn't think it was real and accused Daniel Defoe of making it up (the concept of the novel was literally novel)
17:11:36 <Warren1984> think about this Toyota Hilux is the most stolen vehicle, there are muslim tow truck drivers and those who work in the seacontainer businesses
17:12:15 <Warren1984> they ship them to Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan
17:12:18 <Abortion> I guess it could be based on a true story, very loosely on a guy stranded in a far away place, basically anywhere on earth before modern transportation
17:12:32 <Abortion> Well, apart from not being able to contact home
17:12:39 <Abortion> actually I guess that scuttles it really
17:12:56 <Warren1984> but can't america, Russia just destroy those vehicles
17:13:04 <Warren1984> just keep bombing those toyotas
17:13:13 <Warren1984> then it will become useless
17:13:19 <Warren1984> stealing a toyota
17:13:35 <Tigger_> Russia is bombing them
17:13:57 <Warren1984> If they destroy 100 Toyotas everyday then they are doing well
17:14:23 <Warren1984> I would hate to think my Toyota would be stolen
17:14:56 <Warren1984> but mine is not 4wd
17:15:16 <Abortion> Who says they even need to be stolen? In Japan, it is very common for used vehicles to be sold overseas, due to their high turnover. Europe also has strong roadworthiness checks, maybe its just those
17:15:30 <Abortion> Fail roadworthy, gets shipped overseas
17:15:47 <Abortion> To all sorts of third world countries, I guess IS is just one such place they go
17:16:37 <Warren1984> Tigger_ ISIS ride on horses as well
17:16:46 <Warren1984> so they may target stealing clip clop
17:16:48 <Tigger_> why not camels?
17:17:11 <Abortion> Camels are for distance without water, not speed
17:17:29 <Abortion> I imagine horses have a faster response time
17:17:36 <Warren1984> If America really wanted Toyota to face the problem they should threaten to bomb the dealerships around the world
17:17:49 <Abortion> Also "Arab Steed" Horses aren't foreign to the middle east
17:18:53 <Tigger_> they could ride unicycles, to keep both hands free for aiming and firing their gun
17:18:54 <Abortion> Oops thats just the name of a hotel. Wiki Arabian Horse, apparently one of the oldest breeds
17:20:36 <Abortion> You mustn't forget that until about the 10th Century, the Muslim world was the forefront of Culture and Technology. It was only following the crusades that they strengthened their religion and abandoned their work
17:21:22 <Abortion> actually a bit later I think
17:21:26 <Abortion> 12 century
17:21:34 <Abortion> Can't quite remember
17:22:33 <Tigger_> the Muslim world was never at the forefront of culture and technology
17:23:02 <Tigger_> the so called Golden Age of Islam was simply the Persian renaissance, which was going to happen anyway, and ironically was killed off by Islam
17:23:05 <Abortion> Actually yeah, I forgot about the Chinese
17:23:28 <Abortion> It certainly wasn't Europe ahead of them in the first millenia
17:24:30 <Tigger_> the Byzantium Empire never fell throughout the Middle Ages, it was only the western half of the Roman Empire that experienced an economic collapse
17:24:56 <Abortion> Who then turned to religion
17:25:07 <Tigger_> what do you mean?
17:25:13 <Abortion> Christian Dark Ages
17:25:33 <Tigger_> "dark ages" is an ahistorical term
17:25:59 <Abortion> It was stagnation for 500 years
17:26:55 <Abortion> Just because the western world is primarily of Christian Origin, doesn't mean Christianity was always fostering of new ideas
17:28:02 <Tigger_> and the actual collapse of the western half of the Roman Empire was not due to the Visigothic conquest of Rome (contra Gibbon), they maintained the same institutions for the next two centuries, it was the rise of Islam and their predilection for piracy on the Mediterranean that made sea trade impossible
17:28:46 <Abortion> Bloody hell you really do think Christians have always been Saints
17:29:18 <Tigger_> with the inability to trade by sea, the only alternative was land routes for trade, and this is extremely expensive compared to sea cargo
17:29:58 <Tigger_> and the rise of science was due to Christianity, it could not have occurred otherwise
17:30:30 <Abortion> Hypatia
17:30:42 <Abortion> would tell a different story
17:31:14 <Tigger_> the facts that are known concerning Hypatia do not support the modern pop-cultural understanding of Hypatia
17:31:45 <Tigger_> such as her death had nothing to do with science
17:31:48 <Abortion> The circumstances surrounding her death are not well established
17:32:14 <Abortion> But it is a common hypothesis held that it was due to the catholic church that she was killed
17:32:27 <Tigger_> it's not an academic hypothesis
17:33:30 <Warren1984> Tigger_ is the leader of keeping people calm
17:33:38 <Abortion> What do you mean by that?
17:33:54 <Warren1984> well he teaches buddism
17:33:57 <Tigger_> but the reasons why science flourished under Christianity, whereas it had stagnated under the Greeks, Romans, Chinese, etc. are due to specific tenets of Christianity, such as God makes laws for man, so it is reasoned that nature must also follow laws which are discoverable
17:34:13 <Abortion> I have never heard that, ever
17:34:14 <Warren1984> and teaches people to have peace
17:34:47 <Abortion> Yet there has not been peace
17:34:51 <Tigger_> the way this was expressed was that "the Bible was the book of God's word, while nature was the book of God's works"
17:35:04 <Abortion> Never heard that
17:35:10 <Tigger_> should you have?
17:35:15 <Abortion> I should think so
17:35:23 <Tigger_> then you've heard it now
17:35:35 <Abortion> I went to a Catholic school
17:35:40 <Tigger_> little wonder
17:35:56 <Abortion> The fact that it is limited circulation limits its usefulness as a statement
17:36:14 <Tigger_> Catholic schools are very good at producing atheists, but not too much else
17:36:30 <Abortion> My contention was with the bible itself
17:36:40 <Abortion> I just didn't believe what I was reading
17:37:01 <Tigger_> the history of science has nothing to do with your beliefs about the Bible
17:37:25 <Abortion> I was clarifying that it wasn't catholicism that made me an atheist
17:37:29 <Abortion> given your implication
17:37:45 <Tigger_> it usually is Catholicism that does it
17:38:44 <ajnin> i house in my street just burnt down about 3 days ago
17:38:55 <ajnin> today in the local papper they reported 200 plants
17:38:56 <ajnin> hahahaah
17:38:58 <ajnin> FUCK
17:39:17 <ajnin> its need door to some old lady
17:39:22 <ajnin> who is fucking nosie
17:39:29 <ajnin> and even that old cunt did not know
17:39:30 <ajnin> LOL
17:39:39 <ajnin> that will make her so so para now!
17:39:40 <ajnin> hahaha
17:40:07 <Tigger_> but this is off track, another unique aspect to Christianity that is actually uncommon with most religions is that astrology and magic are both regarded as false, and the Bible forbids the practice of either. in contrast Chinese believed that magic was a force of nature, and the laws of magic were discoverable, which meant that Chinese science was never able to separate itself from magical beliefs
17:41:13 <Abortion> Well with the instances of Galileo and Evolution, it seems Catholics at least, are flexible in their beliefs, even though they initially resist
17:41:36 <Tigger_> the Catholic church never resisted evolutionary theory
17:41:47 * Abortion shrugs
17:41:57 <Abortion> Good for them I guess
17:42:05 <Tigger_> they accepted it as true in the 19th century, quite early on
17:42:24 <Abortion> Most recent pope is being pretty lenient on Gays and is apparently looking at turning around their stance on contraception
17:42:28 <ajnin> Tigger_ thats not ture
17:42:42 <ajnin> Abortion thats not ture either
17:42:51 <ajnin> unless your tlking about the "less of 2 evils"
17:42:52 <Abortion> Please clarify
17:42:54 <Abortion> yes
17:43:11 <ajnin> and in no way is that lowing their stance on contraception
17:43:27 <Tigger_> also an interesting contrast between Christianity and Islam is that while Christianity held that nature was governed by laws, Islam held that nature was simply Allah's will from second to second, and there are no patterns in nature, just patterns in Allah's will, which could change at any moment
17:43:35 <ajnin> Abortion they basicly said, using contraception is a sin
17:43:41 <Tigger_> ajnin, what's not true? about Catholicism and evolution?
17:43:43 <ajnin> but having an abortion is a bigger sin
17:43:53 <ajnin> Tigger_ yes..
17:44:25 <ajnin> the catacusium states that God is the creator
17:44:38 <ajnin> it does not say evolution is a fact
17:44:46 <ajnin> and it does not say thats is false
17:44:56 <ajnin> all it says is you must accept that god created everything
17:45:02 <ajnin> sorry guys
17:45:04 <Abortion> which to me is a non-statement
17:45:08 <ajnin> would love to stay and chat
17:45:19 <Abortion> creating everything would cover creating the big bang
17:45:29 <ajnin> Abortion thats right
17:45:53 <ajnin> so if you think thats how the world started and god dcreated the big bang thats OK with the HRCC
17:46:08 <ajnin> i have to go to the movies
17:46:09 <ajnin> l8z
17:46:14 <ajnin> l8r
17:46:15 <Abortion> If it gets to that point, you need to start thinking about the existence of a higher being outside of our universe
17:46:23 <Abortion> particularly if they are non-interventionalist
17:46:39 <Abortion> it becomes a moot point between natural law and creation
17:48:43 <Tigger_> the Catholic church doesn't enshrine any scientific theory as doctrine, but accepts the findings of science as they emerge, this acceptence of evolution began in the 19th century, once enough scientists had themselves accepted Darwin's theory
17:49:06 <Abortion> Ooh boy, Adelaide Fablab has reopened
17:50:07 <Abortion> Well the whole thing of Doctrine is pretty bogus anyway. As someone was telling me on the weekend, Protestants were all about accessibility, while the Catholics were trying to keep everything in Latin
17:50:59 <Abortion> Accessibility thus allows for a lesser educational requirement
17:51:04 <Abortion> arguably encouraging it
17:51:35 <Abortion> The Jews were way ahead of that, in that it was an actual requirement that Jews could read in order to practice their faith
17:53:27 <Warren1984> Farhad Jabar: Sydney Gang Supplied Gun to Teen Who Shot Police Worker, Report Says
17:53:28 <Warren1984> Police say the .38 Smith and Wesson used to kill an officer in Parramatta was distributed by a gang, though they did not know what the gun was being used for, The Daily Telegraph reports.
17:53:44 <Abortion> Why would a gang care
17:53:50 <Abortion> weapons sales is a business
17:54:05 <Abortion> unless it was given free
17:55:01 <Abortion> Which would bring into question the statement they didn't know what it was for
17:56:31 <Warren1984> given by the Bikies
17:56:37 <Tigger_> though Jews were literate (like Muslims), Jewish culture was also very stagnant, it wasn't till the 19th century that Jews really made any cultural impression, so literacy alone doesn't get a society very far
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19:16:00 <Kahuna> hey fam
19:16:00 <Kahuna> big ups
19:16:38 <Kahuna> hey fam
19:16:43 <Kahuna> big ups
19:20:00 <Tigger_> hello Kahuna
19:20:46 <Tigger_> hello Kahuna
19:21:00 <Kahuna> how about them Cowboys eh?
19:21:19 <Kahuna> how about them Cowboys eh?
19:22:00 <Tigger_> as long as they shoot plenty of Indians, it's all good
19:22:00 <Kahuna> hahaha
19:22:11 <Tigger_> as long as they shoot plenty of Indians, it's all good
19:22:54 <Kahuna> hahaha
19:23:00 <Kahuna> well, i like the topic
19:23:00 <Kahuna> amusing
19:23:07 <Kahuna> well, i like the topic
19:23:30 <Kahuna> amusing
19:24:00 <Tigger_> it would be hard to explain to a yowie that you don't swing that way
19:24:10 Nick: Kahuna is now known as shugenja
19:24:41 <Tigger_> it would be hard to explain to a yowie that you don't swing that way
19:25:00 <Abortion> Homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom
19:25:00 <Abortion> lol
19:25:00 <Abortion> well he was ahead of some people
19:25:00 <Abortion> "Animals don't have gay sex, so its unnatural in humans"
19:25:00 <shugenja> i walked two hours today
19:25:00 <Abortion> huehuehuehue
19:25:15 <Abortion> Homosexuality exists in the animal kingdom
19:25:18 <Abortion> lol
19:25:22 <Abortion> well he was ahead of some people
19:25:50 <Abortion> "Animals don't have gay sex, so its unnatural in humans"
19:25:53 <shugenja> i walked two hours today
19:25:56 <Abortion> huehuehuehue
19:26:00 <Abortion> Also, are all Yowies male?
19:26:00 <shugenja> trying to get out of my funk
19:26:00 <Tigger_> there would surely be female yowies
19:26:17 <Abortion> Also, are all Yowies male?
19:26:27 <shugenja> trying to get out of my funk
19:26:51 <Tigger_> there would surely be female yowies
19:27:00 <Abortion> Maybe they'd be like Female Hyenas, they have a fake penis
19:27:27 <Abortion> Maybe they'd be like Female Hyenas, they have a fake penis
19:30:00 <Tigger_> I haven't read of any convincing proofs of gay sex in non-captive animals, the claims I've read seem to suffer from observer bias
19:30:00 <Abortion> hahahaha, gold
19:30:12 <Tigger_> I haven't read of any convincing proofs of gay sex in non-captive animals, the claims I've read seem to suffer from observer bias
19:30:49 <Abortion> hahahaha, gold
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19:34:00 <Marttin> i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/07/16/2D289E8B00000578-0-image-m-122_1444230020558.jpg 20 years already, how fast time goes
19:34:24 <Marttin> i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/07/16/2D289E8B00000578-0-image-m-122_1444230020558.jpg 20 years already, how fast time goes
19:37:00 <Tigger_> I wondered why they had CRT TVs at such a late date
19:37:16 <Tigger_> I wondered why they had CRT TVs at such a late date
19:38:00 <Tigger_> hi Lish
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19:38:52 <Tigger_> hi Lish
19:39:00 <Lish> Sup tigger
19:39:03 <Lish> Sup tigger
19:40:00 <Tigger_> I got some comics today
19:40:00 <shugenja> which ones?
19:40:00 <Lish> Sounds dull
19:40:00 <Lish> I had a cupcake
19:40:13 <Tigger_> I got some comics today
19:40:34 <shugenja> which ones?
19:40:34 <Lish> Sounds dull
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19:40:44 <Lish> I had a cupcake
19:41:00 <shugenja> i was in a comic book store today in Enmore
19:41:02 <shugenja> i was in a comic book store today in Enmore
19:42:00 <Tigger_> these two comics: http://www.amazon.com/EC-Archives-Two-Fisted-Tales/dp/1616558237/ http://www.amazon.com/Creepy-Archives-22-Various/dp/1616558490/
19:42:00 <Tigger_> did you see anything interesting?
19:42:00 <Lish> I'm waiting for pizza
19:42:13 <Tigger_> these two comics: http://www.amazon.com/EC-Archives-Two-Fisted-Tales/dp/1616558237/ http://www.amazon.com/Creepy-Archives-22-Various/dp/1616558490/
19:42:29 <Tigger_> did you see anything interesting?
19:42:52 <Lish> I'm waiting for pizza
19:43:00 <Tigger_> that's so weird
19:43:00 <Lish> What is
19:43:00 <Tigger_> at the exact second you said that, on Modern Family Claire said "We're getting pizza"
19:43:00 <Lish> Hahahahaha
19:43:03 <Tigger_> that's so weird
19:43:10 <Lish> What is
19:43:28 <Tigger_> at the exact second you said that, on Modern Family Claire said "We're getting pizza"
19:43:42 <Lish> Hahahahaha
19:44:00 <shugenja> that alwas happens to me
19:44:00 <shugenja> always
19:44:00 <Tigger_> it's a bit spooky when it happens
19:44:12 <shugenja> that alwas happens to me
19:44:17 <shugenja> always
19:44:50 <Tigger_> it's a bit spooky when it happens
19:45:00 <Lish> A guy stopped me today when I was leaving work and told me I was looking really good lately
19:45:00 <Lish> Husband thinks it's creepy haha I didn't really think anything of it, other than it was nice
19:45:01 <Lish> A guy stopped me today when I was leaving work and told me I was looking really good lately
19:45:20 <Lish> Husband thinks it's creepy haha I didn't really think anything of it, other than it was nice
19:46:00 <Tigger_> I find it interesting how whenever girls get a compliment, they're floating on air, and then have to tell everyone
19:46:13 <Tigger_> I find it interesting how whenever girls get a compliment, they're floating on air, and then have to tell everyone
19:47:00 <Lish> Hahah yeah because it's rare people are that nice
19:47:00 <Tigger_> I've gotten millions of compliments from girls, and I just think "of course"
19:47:02 <Lish> Hahah yeah because it's rare people are that nice
19:47:47 <Tigger_> I've gotten millions of compliments from girls, and I just think "of course"
19:48:00 <Lish> As if millions
19:48:00 <Lish> What do they said
19:48:00 <Lish> Say
19:48:00 <Tigger_> things like "You're so smart to realise yowies and kangaroos are related"
19:48:03 <Lish> As if millions
19:48:09 <Lish> What do they said
19:48:11 <Lish> Say
19:48:50 <Tigger_> things like "You're so smart to realise yowies and kangaroos are related"
19:49:00 <Lish> That never happened
19:49:00 <Lish> They just said zzzzzz
19:49:12 <Lish> That never happened
19:49:16 <Lish> They just said zzzzzz
19:53:00 <Tigger_> you're very cruel, but I'll put that down to the pizza not having arrived yet
19:53:00 <Tigger_> you're very cruel, but I'll put that down to the pizza not having arrived yet
19:53:00 <Lish> Ahaha I am starving
19:53:00 <Lish> I only got a small
19:53:00 <Lish> I should have got large
19:53:14 <Lish> Ahaha I am starving
19:53:27 <Lish> I only got a small
19:53:31 <Lish> I should have got large
19:54:00 <Tigger_> pizza hut and dominoes only have one size pizza
19:54:30 <Tigger_> pizza hut and dominoes only have one size pizza
19:55:00 <Lish> Yeah they do
19:55:00 <Lish> We aren't getting from those places
19:55:00 <Tigger_> how much is their small pizza?
19:55:00 <Lish> $10
19:55:02 <Lish> Yeah they do
19:55:08 <Lish> We aren't getting from those places
19:55:34 <Tigger_> how much is their small pizza?
19:55:51 <Lish> $10
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20:02:00 <Lish> It's here
20:02:29 <Lish> It's here
20:03:00 <Tigger_> lucky
20:03:00 <Lish> So hungry
20:03:00 <anotherirc3r> yeah.. you might see Lish act more harsh than usual
20:03:00 <Lish> Why
20:03:03 <Tigger_> lucky
20:03:34 <Lish> So hungry
20:03:36 <anotherirc3r> yeah.. you might see Lish act more harsh than usual
20:03:55 <Lish> Why
20:04:00 <anotherirc3r> if you're starving, i mean
20:04:41 <anotherirc3r> if you're starving, i mean
20:05:00 <Tigger_> some people are very mean on an empty stomach
20:05:00 <Lish> Oh yeah
20:05:00 <Lish> Hangry
20:05:00 <Lish> I am awful
20:05:20 <Tigger_> some people are very mean on an empty stomach
20:05:44 <Lish> Oh yeah
20:05:48 <Lish> Hangry
20:05:57 <Lish> I am awful
20:06:00 <Tigger_> I'm only mean if I haven't been able to sleep in 30 hours, and then it's only "go away and stop bothering me"
20:06:31 <Tigger_> I'm only mean if I haven't been able to sleep in 30 hours, and then it's only "go away and stop bothering me"
20:08:00 <Lish> I'm usually pretty mean anyway
20:08:00 <Tigger_> true
20:08:00 <anotherirc3r> i'm grumpy atm
20:08:00 <anotherirc3r> too little sleep
20:08:00 <Lish> How come?
20:08:06 <Lish> I'm usually pretty mean anyway
20:08:11 <Tigger_> true
20:08:36 <anotherirc3r> i'm grumpy atm
20:08:38 <anotherirc3r> too little sleep
20:08:52 <Lish> How come?
20:09:00 <Lish> Something keeping you up?
20:09:47 <Lish> Something keeping you up?
20:10:00 <anotherirc3r> too early to sleep :/
20:10:00 <Lish> Yeah I might the other nights
20:10:00 <Lish> How come you been getting too little sleep?
20:10:03 <anotherirc3r> too early to sleep :/
20:10:18 <Lish> Yeah I might the other nights
20:10:18 <Glenn> :P
20:10:25 <Lish> How come you been getting too little sleep?
20:14:07 <anotherirc3r> i don't usually
20:14:26 <anotherirc3r> it's been hot though.. and tradies working next door keep waking me up
20:14:31 <Lish> Oh that sucks
20:14:37 <Lish> The birds have been waking us up
20:14:48 <Lish> I've been getting 7.5 hrs which is not enough haha I reckon I work best on 9
20:14:49 <anotherirc3r> i'd be tempted to throw something at them
20:15:02 <Lish> Then you'd have to get out of bed lol
20:15:09 <Lish> I just wear ear plugs
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20:15:25 <anotherirc3r> oh, true..
20:15:27 <anotherirc3r> damn the effort
20:15:50 <Lish> Hahaha
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20:18:00 <Lish> Wb Glenn
20:18:21 <Lish> Wb Glenn
20:22:00 <Lish> What's cracking
20:22:09 <Glenn> Thanks Lish! :)
20:22:44 <Lish> What's cracking
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20:32:11 <Lish> Do any exercising today jen?
20:32:15 <Lish> I hardly did any this week
20:33:27 <anotherirc3r> nah.. did some step ups for an hour a few days ago
20:33:29 <anotherirc3r> too tired today
20:34:08 <Lish> I had good intentions but then got lazy haaha
20:34:26 <anotherirc3r> what were you going to do?
20:34:27 <Lish> Where's ajnin
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20:51:45 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o xm
20:56:36 <Lish> Xm
20:57:04 <xm> ey Lish
20:57:27 <xm> now that i dont code anymore and deal with so many documents it's a mess
20:57:33 <xm> NEED A PROPER DOCUMENTATION SYSTEM
20:57:39 <xm> although there kinda is one
20:57:45 <xm> but for schematics we dont follow it properly
20:57:53 <Lish> Hahahaha
20:58:16 <xm> it's crazy because we print, edit on paper, make changes on the computer, print again, check etc
20:58:31 <Lish> I spent all day figuring out which products we had to upgrade our unsupported browser messages for
20:58:33 <xm> and then at the end you have to go through all the previous edits to ensure all changes are made
20:58:44 <Lish> Since Microsoft aren't supporting anything less than IE11 from jam
20:58:51 <xm> yes was just going to say
20:59:00 <xm> they are also canning IE for something new
20:59:12 <xm> pretty much IE still probably just another name
20:59:16 <xm> i wish IE would just die
20:59:18 <xm> dIE
20:59:29 <Tigger_> the Spartan browser, which has gotten little traction as yet
20:59:45 <xm> you've probably never had to do formal testing before Lish. it's the most BORING thing you'd have to do
20:59:58 <xm> strange name for a browser
21:00:14 <Tigger_> oh called Edge now
21:00:15 <Lish> Edge isn't that the new name
21:00:31 <Lish> I hate testing
21:00:38 <Tigger_> Data from August 2015 showed that user uptake of Edge was low, with only 2% of overall computer users using the new browser. Among Windows 10 users usage peaked at 20% and then dropped to 14% through August 2015, as users tried it and many stopped using it in favor of other browsers.[24]
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21:00:45 <xm> Lish, so you have to dabble in it?
21:00:48 <xm> i feel so sorry for you
21:01:01 <Lish> Not really
21:01:05 <Lish> But we have testers in our team
21:01:08 <xm> i see
21:01:09 <Lish> Sometimes we have to help them
21:01:13 <Lish> Or review their cases
21:01:16 <xm> it's always a good sign when a company has full-time testers
21:01:34 <xm> it's a bad idea to rely on your devs if it's a big project
21:01:51 <xm> tomorrow is friday
21:01:53 <xm> aint that fancy
21:01:59 <Lish> We have heaps of testers
21:02:02 <Lish> In our company
21:02:06 <Lish> Maybe 40+
21:02:09 <xm> crikey
21:02:13 <xm> that's a lot
21:02:22 <xm> just in your local division?
21:02:26 <Lish> Yeah
21:02:31 <Lish> We have more all over the world
21:02:42 <Lish> Probably half as many testers to devs
21:02:45 <Lish> Some with analysts
21:02:45 <xm> how many employees do you have in your local division alone?
21:02:56 <xm> maybe you can give skips a job in the networking department after all!
21:03:05 <xm> get skips to fix your printer toner
21:03:07 <Lish> Business and technology we have around 1000
21:03:26 <xm> that's an interesting ratio. 2:1 for devs to testers
21:03:57 <xm> i dont know much about how people go about testing but i thought it'd be 5:1
21:04:05 <Lish> Nah
21:04:19 <xm> i know at one point testers were making 70k a year (2010) for that kinda work
21:04:29 <Lish> Yeah probably still around the same
21:04:33 <Lish> I don't think it's gone up much
21:04:44 <Lish> There's a push away from manual testing to automated testin
21:04:52 <Lish> And using unit tests to cover a lot of it
21:05:40 <xm> yeah if you're doing web dev with Ruby On Rails you pretty much do testing and developing in intimate steps right after each other
21:05:51 <xm> but i didnt adhere to that properly
21:05:57 <xm> i spent more time developing
21:06:23 <xm> but once you do get automated testing going it's pretty cool
21:06:31 <xm> you can even automate javascript tests now
21:06:34 <xm> but it's very slow
21:06:49 <Lish> Yeah you can
21:07:16 <Lish> I'm having Ben and Jerry's ice cram
21:07:37 <Tigger_> I've never had that brand before
21:07:43 <Lish> Cotton candy flavour
21:07:43 <xm> i havent had sesame icecream for a while. i miss that
21:07:45 <Lish> It's American
21:08:07 <Tigger_> yeah, they are one of the (few) sponsors of Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign
21:08:40 <Lish> http://imgur.com/2iUg5d2
21:09:01 <Tigger_> I'd probably like that a lot
21:09:21 <Lish> Yeah it's nice
21:09:25 <Lish> First time trying this one
21:10:11 <Tigger_> how much are they?
21:11:06 <Lish> I dunno
21:11:15 <Lish> $4
21:11:17 <Lish> Maybe
21:11:26 <Tigger_> $4 is alright
21:11:31 <Lish> For 105g
21:11:38 <Tigger_> that's not much
21:11:47 <Lish> No it's a tiny little tub
21:11:49 <Lish> One serve
21:11:51 <Tigger_> I'd want 500g at least
21:11:59 <Lish> You can get bigger tubs
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21:13:10 <Tigger_> a lot to try: http://www.benandjerry.com.au/flavours
21:13:23 <Lish> Yeah lol
21:17:36 <Tigger_> though Baskin Robbins has more kiddy flavours like bubblegum that I like
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21:39:05 <wolframhart> At islam central right now
21:39:14 <wolframhart> Mirrabooka
21:43:10 <Tigger_> greet everyone with Allahu Akbar
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21:56:21 <ajnin> that movie was MAD
21:56:27 <ajnin> i think you should watch it if you can
21:56:31 <ajnin> The martin
21:56:43 <ajnin> long.. but did not feel long
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21:57:21 <ajnin> `info
21:59:15 <ajnin> http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2015/10/07/beijing-traffic-jam_n_8261032.html?utm_hp_ref=australia
21:59:17 <ajnin> super power!
22:02:39 <Tigger_> I'll watch it on MKV, like everything
22:03:23 <Tigger_> those cars look like toys
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23:07:07 <xm> Mirrabooka = signs in Vietnamese for long distance call cards, photography booths in the shop using a lot of African kid photos as examples
23:07:27 <xm> a reflection of the local demographic of course
23:21:09 <IvanTheBastard> mirrabooka used to be full of abbos now its full of islam and africa
23:25:25 <xm> there arent many asians now either
23:25:36 <xm> they are mostly in marangaroo i suppose
23:25:48 <xm> today that is
23:26:07 <xm> that's the viets. but from what i can tell the chinese are mostly SOR
23:26:49 <IvanTheBastard> chinese like to display a veneer of being rich or luxurious which is why they try to buy in the upper class SOR areas
23:27:00 <IvanTheBastard> whereas viets and malays dont give a fuk
23:27:04 <IvanTheBastard> or burmese
23:27:30 <IvanTheBastard> but it seems they have pushed abit farther out from mirrabooka, girraween to alexander heights etc
23:28:44 <xm> yes, the nouve riche chinese have always been like that
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