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00:27:30 <steve30> I was going to go to Tesco tonight, but its forecast rain, so I think I'll go now instead
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02:30:03 <steve30> I managed to put some new toeclips on my pedals, to replace the broken toe clips.
02:30:14 <steve30> Went out to the shops... damn pedal broke.
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05:03:08 <MrMobodies> Hello
05:05:14 <Kuschelpony> Hello
05:05:52 <Ampera> Anyone want some toast? https://pastebin.com/cUYpRH0p
05:05:53 <EEVBot> [url] === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===Model Family: HGST Ultrastar 7K6000D - Pastebin.com | pastebin.com
05:08:27 <MrMobodies> " 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 005 Pre-fail Always - 378"
05:08:49 <MrMobodies> is that 378 remapped sectors?
05:09:26 <MrMobodies> with about 4 years worth of power on time
05:10:24 <Ampera> Yes. The drive is effectively dead.
05:10:28 <Ampera> about half a million read errors
05:11:56 <MrMobodies> I was given a Dell laptop a month ago and shocked to find a Western digial Scorpio blue (2012) in there but then I was told it wasn't used much. Copper contacts still copper or silvery. No bad sectors. but only 120 hours worth of use.
05:12:03 <MrMobodies> unfortunately the screen as a defect
05:12:17 <MrMobodies> it has white bleeding all around the edges
05:12:26 <MrMobodies> no signs of any stress or damage
05:12:53 <MrMobodies> and the battery is a rip off on ebay so I might buy another screen and battery
05:13:18 <MrMobodies> I think it is am I5 with a Nvidia graphics card (that turns of when not in use)
05:13:59 <MrMobodies> I mean "new battery" and I think Duracell sell 2-power ones for £90
05:18:04 <MrMobodies> in the news today
05:18:13 <MrMobodies> which I thought they'd never do
05:18:15 <MrMobodies> https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/warning-dwp-pip-claimants-could-26465553
05:18:15 <EEVBot> [url] Warning as DWP PIP claimants could be impacted by Jeremy Hunt's 'back to work' Budget - Liverpool Echo | www.liverpoolecho.co.uk
05:19:09 <MrMobodies> so hopefully that money can go into helping people into work than going into Capita
05:19:44 <MrMobodies> that's what the DWP/HMRC staff are paid to do and thoroughly
05:22:39 <MrMobodies> also maybe bedroom tax next, there is a housing shortage, if a council houses someone in a 2 or 3 bedroom property at no choice of their own because that's the only property the council can find for them
05:22:54 <MrMobodies> why should they be subjected to penalties outside of their control
05:23:04 <MrMobodies> that's market forces
05:23:22 <MrMobodies> until they find them a smaller property
05:25:19 <MrMobodies> the only thing I suspect is that, are they doing this to try and win the 2024 election.
05:26:21 <MrMobodies> the intentions are great but I was told it is the so called back room boys who eventually govern the reality afterwards
05:56:17 <jaymax> https://files.maxuel.compy.ca:5281/upload/AjtyNe6ufbBnH0gf/vHNNSLZ7Szuigf2asZHozA.jpg
05:56:37 <jaymax> Not quite done enough to pull, but i'm hungry now.
05:56:43 * jaymax shrugs
05:56:43 <EEVBot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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08:16:39 <arch> what ya doing with 6TB drives anyways? storing tentacle hentai?
08:16:52 <arch> it took me over a decade to even reach 1TB worth of shit worth keeping
08:19:41 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjj-TPgoLPw
08:19:42 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Panasonic X2000 Livestream test over VDSL 1920x1080 25fps | Live for 1 minute, 8 seconds | Channel: steve30 | 1 watching | Live since 2023-03-15 - 21:18:33UTC
08:19:46 <steve30> A stevestream :)
08:24:16 <MrMobodies> I like what I am seeing
08:24:27 <MrMobodies> keep it going going to get my stereo stuff on
08:24:42 <MrMobodies> what is that soundtrack?
08:28:19 <steve30> 1980s library music
08:28:24 <steve30> I'll find you the link later
08:30:44 <Ampera> It sounds like the theme to a low budget cop thriller
08:33:30 <steve30> MrMobodies, https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lNhsO8jb2ouCVsUjNLwqenkf1L2NkOjFs
08:33:31 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Kpm 1000 Series: Upfront | Automatic Playlist/Mix
08:34:13 <MrMobodies> thanks
08:35:51 <electrohead> o/
08:36:05 <MrMobodies> I like it
08:36:09 <MrMobodies> Beef-cake
08:36:37 <MrMobodies> oh thats the one I was after "the leading edge"
08:39:24 <MrMobodies> I like the bass arrangement
08:39:28 <MrMobodies> excellent
08:39:41 <MrMobodies> just after 1:56
08:40:45 <steve30> Library music is really boring these days.
08:43:27 <electrohead> my intel neural compute sticks just showed up
08:43:37 <MrMobodies> That Score track reminds me of something out of movie Flash Gordon
08:43:42 * electrohead AI's all over jaymax
08:43:47 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIBadz11TbE
08:43:48 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Score | 2m 41s | Channel: Richard Myhill - Topic | 11,142 views | 2019-02-14 - 23:47:22UTC
08:44:27 * jaymax Weird AI's all over electrohead
08:44:36 <jaymax> White and Nerdy
08:44:55 <electrohead> <3
08:45:20 <jaymax> <3<3<3<3<3<3
08:46:10 <MrMobodies> oh is that suppose to be library music?
08:46:17 <MrMobodies> I think they sound nice
08:46:40 <MrMobodies> for the right scene
08:47:25 <rust8> library music is usually better than elevator music, imo
08:47:38 <jaymax> https://youtu.be/GR8QdKF9E38
08:47:38 <electrohead> they both still suck
08:47:38 <EEVBot> [YouTube] The times Weird Al Yankovic voices himself in cartoons | 2m 45s | Channel: BRRGames | 2,471,775 views | 2020-10-23 - 07:00:05UTC
08:47:49 * electrohead blares cannibal corpse
08:51:59 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPrYJY7fRbc
08:52:00 <EEVBot> [YouTube] The Edge | 3m 27s | Channel: Richard Myhill - Topic | 1,484 views | 2019-02-15 - 07:11:11UTC
08:53:27 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8DTQm-5a7E
08:53:27 <EEVBot> [YouTube] You Must Be an Angel | 3m 39s | Channel: Richard Myhill - Topic | 63,720 views | 2019-02-15 - 09:51:43UTC
08:53:37 <MrMobodies> this one will be good for disco night
08:53:56 <MrMobodies> just before it shuts early hours of the morning
08:54:34 <MrMobodies> the top one "The ede" I plan to use that for the starting before it officially starts
08:55:07 <MrMobodies> Just when I have finished setting it all up
08:55:20 <MrMobodies> about 0:40 in the track
08:55:55 <MrMobodies> I think they'd like a bit of that
08:56:15 <MrMobodies> and it seems to go with the blue cover
08:56:49 <MrMobodies> it reminds me of the sounds in an Anrold Swatzennegar movie in the 80's
08:57:07 <MrMobodies> when the daughter was kidnapped
08:57:54 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W1ne_u-DWQ
08:57:54 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Panasonic X2000 livestream test Different WLAN network 720p25 8Mbps | Live for 1 minute, 12 seconds | Channel: steve30 | 1 watching | Live since 2023-03-15 - 21:56:42UTC
08:58:44 <MrMobodies> found it Commando 1985
09:01:14 <steve30> !coffee
09:01:15 * EEVBot slides a cup of joe to steve30
09:01:18 <MrMobodies> batteries still working in that macbook?
09:01:54 <steve30> it works, but not for too long
09:02:45 <MrMobodies> not bad for over 20 years
09:02:51 <MrMobodies> to hold some charge
09:07:56 <electrohead> so I discovered the movie commando is in my collection, but never watched it yet
09:08:00 <electrohead> thanks :p
09:14:27 <electrohead> heh, I love how he just casually jumps from the nose gear of the plane, into water, and doesn't get hurt :p
09:15:10 <rust8> he is austrian, they have water there
09:16:04 <electrohead> lol
09:18:33 <electrohead> *wants to get in the car* ... *rips the fucking seat out*
09:42:03 <electrohead> ok ok .. I'm at the part where arnie and that black guy are fighting in the hotel room, and they bust through the door, into the other hotel room ..
09:42:20 <electrohead> first of all, gun shot went off already. yet, they bust through the door, and the man and woman are under the covers
09:42:23 <electrohead> didn't run
09:42:37 <electrohead> worst yet - I paused, and went frame by frame, just to verify something
09:42:57 <electrohead> so the dude was hunched over, and the lady was essentially on top of him. ....
09:43:08 <electrohead> rofl.
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11:02:25 <MrMobodies> eletrohead, oh yes and I like the way the sounds complement the scene
11:02:44 <MrMobodies> oh the scene when he he held the thug to his neck
11:03:04 <MrMobodies> you know when I promised to kill you last, well I lied
11:03:36 <MrMobodies> and before that he said about there are more important things to worry about like gravity
11:03:57 <MrMobodies> before he dropped him over the cliff
11:04:33 <MrMobodies> Electrohead, you know that mall
11:04:45 <MrMobodies> it is the same mall as in the "Chopping Mall" with the railings and that
11:05:00 <MrMobodies> with the killer robots
11:06:27 <MrMobodies> I found this wonderful tune when searching similar musicians but what is sob special about this one, it sounds to me like late 70's but it was released in 2013
11:06:28 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WMY1zzDrmI
11:06:29 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Spaghetti Smootch | 2m 49s | Channel: Duncan MacKay - Topic | 990 views | 2019-06-05 - 00:37:42UTC
11:06:31 <MrMobodies> really nice
11:07:06 <MrMobodies> I could listen to that all night
11:07:42 <MrMobodies> Spaghetti Smootch Duncan MacKay - Topic
11:07:42 <MrMobodies> Provided to YouTube by The Orchard Enterprises
11:09:22 <MrMobodies> The Leading Edge Richard Myhill - Topic
11:09:22 <MrMobodies> Provided to YouTube by The Orchard Enterprises
11:09:59 <MrMobodies> they seem to come from the same place
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17:57:24 <K> hello pretzels
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19:28:52 <watcher> Hello seabearbeef
19:32:49 <DogWomble> hello my hovercraft is full of eels
19:36:07 <watcher> Do you have a real hovercraft?
19:49:21 <K> he has an eel one
19:53:05 <DogWomble> my nipples explode wityh delight
19:53:31 <DogWomble> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Gn6a3WbYw
19:53:31 <EEVBot> [YouTube] monty python -dirty Hungarian handbook | 2m 36s | Channel: Bosha Josh | 1,174,907 views | 2005-12-12 - 21:00:36UTC
19:53:55 <K> we are not completely uncultured here, DogWomble!
19:54:04 <DogWomble> :D
19:55:05 <watcher> not to go in 5 minutes
19:59:49 <watcher> bye bye
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21:15:15 <Nothing\> welly welly well it looks like i've got some fake gemstones from aliexpress lol surprise surprise
21:15:29 <Nothing\> i don't care though, i bought them for looks not authenticity
21:16:12 <Nothing\> it's just curious that the specific gravity of the polished pieces of amethyst is 3.2 while the unpolished pieces are all around 2.7
21:16:35 * Ampera sneezes
21:16:42 <Nothing\> and the specific gravity of quartz is 2.65 so 2.7, accounting for error margins would be exactly what i expect
21:16:50 * Nothing\ shoves a benedryl up Ampera's nose
21:17:08 <Nothing\> Ampera, do you sneeze in pairs?
21:17:21 <Nothing\> before opioids made me stop sneezing, they always used to come in pairs
21:17:33 * Ampera sneezes hard enough to break the fabric of reality and time, resulting in the said benadryl teleporting directly into Nothing\'s asshole
21:18:21 <Nothing\> now on the rare occasions I do sneeze, usually if I haven't had my methadone yet or am otherwise in withdrawals, I'll sneeze 10+ times in succession and after that many times it stops feeling good and just becomes painful. I guess sort of like orgasms. in a weird way.
21:18:44 <Ampera> sounds metal
21:18:45 <Nothing\> Ampera, the sad thing is, I know people who HAVE literally put benedryl up their ass for the purposes of getting high
21:19:06 <Ampera> at this point I am sure you know people who have done everything and anything to get high
21:19:14 <Nothing\> just about, yeah
21:19:23 <Ampera> that's not very metal
21:19:35 <Nothing\> worst i can think is a guy that this chat i went to as a teenager convinced that you could get high on antifreeze
21:19:47 <Nothing\> so he drank some, but not enough to do anything apparently
21:21:01 <Nothing\> or a guy extracting the dextromethorphan from cough syrup and didn't get rid of the lighter fluid he was using as a non-polar solvent (for something he was intending to ingest) so he wound up drinking some amount of lighter fluid and getting ill
21:21:25 <Ampera> did it make him any lighter?
21:21:32 <Nothing\> there was an extraction method going around on the internet that was sketchy as fuck, using lye based drain cleaner and lighter fluid basically
21:21:45 <Nothing\> Ampera, actually it could have
21:22:15 <Nothing\> he probably vomited so i'd imagine it did
21:22:29 <Ampera> >drinks lighter fluid
21:22:34 <Ampera> >gets sick and drops 20 pounds
21:22:35 <Ampera> >works
21:22:40 <Nothing\> lol yeah really
21:22:50 <Nothing\> except you did it wrong, unless color codes are stripped in here
21:22:52 <Ampera> fun fact, lighter fluid is particularly similar to gasoline
21:23:14 <Ampera> at least if you are talking about zippo-style fluids
21:23:22 <Ampera> I've successfully used coleman whitegas to run my zippos
21:24:21 <Nothing\> oh yeah i learned that years ago. There's a chemical called naphthalene which is just 2 benzene rings fused together, so I assumed with the name Naphtha, lighter fluid would be naphlthalene, or a large part naphthalene. Which was kinda scary since it's a carcinogen. So I looked up the composition of zippo fluid and found there wasn't an iota of naphthalene in it
21:24:53 <Nothing\> i also learned the other day that nonane is the heaviest alkane that remains liquid at room temperature
21:25:08 <Nothing\> oh man i had so much trouble trying to find out exactly what gasoline is made of
21:25:17 <Nothing\> truth be told, i'm not even sure the companies know exactly what's in it
21:25:33 <Nothing\> alkanes even up to nonane can have a ton of isomers
21:25:53 <Nothing\> once you get up to 20 carbons you get into billions of different forms
21:26:10 <Nothing\> it's insane just how many alkanes there are/could be. Nevermind all of the other organic compounds
21:26:11 <Ampera> so stuff like decane is long enough to stay solid at room temperature?
21:26:53 <Ampera> I actually use white gas, what I'm told is a similar substance to additive-free gasoline, to power a stove for cooking
21:26:56 <Nothing\> Ampera, apparently. The rule of thumb is the longer the chain, the higher the melting point
21:27:11 <Ampera> and in fact, they sell an alternate tank for that stove which can literally cook your food with a nice blue flame using automotive gas
21:27:16 <Nothing\> hence why light alkanes up to butane are gasses
21:27:32 <Nothing\> is that like white mineral spirits?
21:27:36 <Ampera> no
21:27:43 <Nothing\> interesting, i've never heard of white gas
21:27:47 <Ampera> [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleman_fuel
21:27:48 <EEVBot> [wikipedia] Coleman fuel | "Coleman fuel, also generically sold as white gas, is a petroleum naphtha product marketed by the Coleman Company."
21:27:54 <Nothing\> i've heard of WOOD gas but that's a different thing entirely
21:28:00 <Ampera> It used to be literally gasoline without the octane boosters and lead
21:28:01 <Nothing\> and VERY dirty from what i read about it
21:28:18 <Ampera> but I think they use a petroleum naptha thing that is effectively the same as lighter fluid
21:28:21 <Nothing\> but still pretty neat to know you can make a gaseous fuel from distilling wood, of all things
21:28:57 <steve30> hi
21:29:02 <Nothing\> heya steve30
21:29:06 <Nothing\> how ya doing buddy?
21:29:11 <steve30> just woke up
21:29:15 <Nothing\> me too
21:29:32 <Nothing\> got clinic today so i've gotta get up at 6am to drug myself enough to be able to go outside
21:29:41 <Nothing\> agoraphobia's horrible, don't ever get it
21:29:43 <Nothing\> lol
21:29:51 <Ampera> Nothing\, https://cloud.systemtheta.net/s/cxPtfnwtPkirQ3Z/preview
21:29:55 <Ampera> there's the aforementioned stove
21:30:07 <Ampera> Besides camping, it's a very high heat stove great for making steak
21:30:22 <Nothing\> oh, huh that almost looks like a propane grill except for the tanks
21:30:36 <Nothing\> but i have never seen a tank like that. I wonder if it's just an american thing. I've never even heard of white gas.
21:30:49 <Ampera> the red tank is an older style, only intended to burn additive-free gasoline. The newer silver tanks are dual fuel, and able to use auto gas
21:30:52 <Nothing\> is it actually a gas (under STP) or is it a liquid as in gasoline?
21:31:05 <Ampera> liquid
21:31:21 <Ampera> it's only a gas right before combustion
21:31:22 <Nothing\> i've heard of coleman fuel wood mixture before
21:31:25 <steve30> i have a stove like that
21:31:29 <Nothing\> now that you mention it, coleman is a brand here
21:31:36 <Nothing\> but i think they sell charcoal
21:31:38 <Ampera> if you see that little plunger to the right, that's an air pump. You pressurize the tank with it
21:31:51 <Nothing\> that's interesting
21:31:58 <Ampera> the fumes that come from the gas collect in the top, and then are used to light the stove first.
21:32:00 <Nothing\> but how does the flavour turn out?
21:32:28 <Nothing\> some fuels, particularly high carbon ones tend to burn with a very sooty flame so if that's the case i could see problems
21:32:29 <Ampera> That pipe that goes above the burner itself before returning to below it. Through that, it vaporizes the liquid gasoline, now pushed into the tube through air pressure.
21:32:42 <Nothing\> but i'm sure a medium meant for cooking wouldn't burn sooty
21:32:45 <Nothing\> at least not overly so
21:32:51 <Ampera> It can be sooty, but you're not cooking directly with the flame, so it comes out great
21:32:58 <Ampera> it's a hotter stove than the natgas stove in my house
21:33:35 <Nothing\> actually to combat the sootiness i wonder if a carb would help, make the mixture more rich and hence more clean burning
21:33:49 <Nothing\> but who wants a bbq with an oxygen tank on it lol
21:33:56 <Nothing\> sounds like an explosion hazard if anything
21:33:57 <Ampera> No, because liquid fuel is not combusted
21:34:07 <Nothing\> conflagrated?
21:34:08 <Ampera> This boils the fuel before it burns
21:34:25 <Ampera> so it's literally a propane-like gas burner.
21:34:29 <Nothing\> that's usually the case if the flash point is below the boiling point
21:34:31 <Ampera> I have an example to illustrate that actually
21:34:46 <Nothing\> that's really interesting
21:34:58 <Nothing\> if there's anything i love more than science it's applications of science
21:35:35 <Ampera> https://cloud.systemtheta.net/s/RE5SR3dCD6XDNCA/preview
21:35:45 <Ampera> This is a picture I took while camping
21:36:05 <Ampera> In the background is a fairly cheap and typical 1lb propane lantern. It has gas mantles.
21:36:23 <Ampera> In the foreground is a dual fuel coleman lantern, which has the exact same style of gas mantles
21:36:31 <Nothing\> that's what made me fall in love with EE and engineering in general. It was like seeing all of that "useless" math I learned in school, the sort that makes you inevitably say "when in life am I ever going to need to know this? Suddenly becoming practical and useful and they took on a whole new aesthetic i fell in love with.
21:36:32 <Ampera> yet it's running off white gasoline
21:36:46 <Ampera> You can see a fuel cap, and a plunger used to pressurize the tank
21:36:47 <Nothing\> i never really become interested in math until then, thanks to school
21:37:09 <Nothing\> oh those are weird lanterns
21:37:25 <Nothing\> i dunno why i expected gas lanterns but I guess there's no reason not to use LED
21:37:33 <Ampera> Plenty of reason
21:37:39 <Ampera> gas lanterns are far cooler
21:37:41 <Ampera> and conversely, far warmer
21:37:57 <Ampera> The power density of the fuel is also far superior to batteries
21:37:59 <Nothing\> I almost bought a gas lantern once to illuminate my house and facilitate the smoking of drugs without killing a lighter once an hour.
21:38:18 <Ampera> sounds like a recipe for CO poisoning
21:38:35 <Ampera> or at least CO2
21:38:36 <Nothing\> you'd think but actually the fumes of the drugs pervading the room were stronger
21:39:09 <Nothing\> considering i'd vaporize maybe 1/4 to half a gram in a sitting in a room maybe 20 cubic meters if that
21:39:30 <Ampera> I should make shashlik again
21:39:33 <Nothing\> oh fuck i wish i hadn't remembered that
21:39:34 <steve30> i'm off out to take photos shortly
21:39:58 <Nothing\> steve30, nice, what did you have in mind? please take my mind off of these awful and tantalizing memories.
21:40:25 <steve30> half the country is on strike a agin, so there is a rally for that
21:43:31 <K> will there ever be a rally for a rally?
21:44:14 <Nothing\> K, lol that's funny because watching the simpsons there was JUST a joke almost exactly like that just minutes ago
21:45:21 <Nothing\> *skinner over the announcements* "and finally, the bake sale to raise money for the car wash has been cancelled, due to confusion."
21:45:56 <Nothing\> kinda reminds me of people who use one line of credit to pay off another needlessly
21:46:49 <Nothing\> i mean i can see if they're ready to repo your stuff having to resort to that. But I've seen people who just juggle money around on various credit cards like that for some reason.
21:47:00 <Ampera> or HELOCs
21:47:06 <Ampera> my dad does that
21:47:08 <Nothing\> HELOC?
21:47:16 <Nothing\> that's a new term to me
21:47:18 <Ampera> It's a thing from where people can actually afford a house
21:47:22 <Ampera> home equity line of credit
21:47:26 <Nothing\> s'at one of them gen z slangs?
21:47:31 <Ampera> no
21:47:39 <Nothing\> oh, an upper class slang
21:47:40 <Nothing\> gotcha
21:47:40 <Ampera> stupid people from all generations use them :)
21:47:54 <Ampera> They tend to have lower interest rates than credit cards or personal loans, so people tend to use them like financial shovels
21:48:03 <Nothing\> yeah but gen z is the only generation that won't be able to afford a house, even on credit
21:48:04 <Ampera> to dig themselves out from one hole and into another
21:48:14 <Ampera> watch me
21:48:14 <Nothing\> actually you know what
21:48:15 <K> fwiw it looks like imma be buying a place eh
21:48:18 <Nothing\> my mum did that Ampera
21:48:24 <Nothing\> now that i remember back to those days
21:48:29 <Ampera> K, are you young enough to be Gen Z?
21:48:36 <Nothing\> we had a line of credit on the house she borrowed almost $200k against
21:48:43 <K> Ampera, im old af
21:48:53 <Nothing\> when she divorced my dad, the money she got for the house just paid off the debt. So she effectively got nothing.
21:49:08 <Ampera> On a cultural level I'd consider myself in between generations. I'm maybe a few years or so from the typical rear end of millenials
21:49:08 <Nothing\> too "nice" not to report him for tax fraud
21:49:19 <Nothing\> he personally defrauded me out of $30k
21:49:21 <Nothing\> at least
21:49:48 <Nothing\> i should pursue it but i doubt i'd get any back due to statute of limitations since it happened when i was a kid
21:49:57 <K> how old i am, Ampera ?
21:50:05 <Nothing\> k: 32
21:50:15 <Nothing\> sorry i just couldn't help guessing
21:50:21 <Ampera> K, I'm not sure if that's a solicitation for a guess, or a questioning of a question
21:50:30 <K> guess
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21:50:41 <Ampera> 47 years
21:50:57 <K> add 10 Nothing\s guess
21:51:08 <Ampera> I'm closer then :)
21:51:10 <K> will be about right
21:51:23 <Ampera> You are at a magical age, you are the answer to the meaning of life, the universe, and everything
21:51:31 <K> so no genz here boss
21:51:41 <Ampera> I am 21 :D
21:51:45 <Nothing\> but yeah, back then tax law had it so if you earned less than $6k you couldn't be taxed. My dad owned a furniture store, so he put me (being 8 years old) on the pay roll for $500 a month. I remember he'd have me sign the pay slips and I wouldn't even know wtf they were.
21:51:52 <K> my condolances
21:51:54 <Nothing\> I just trusted it's my dad and he's doing what's best for me
21:52:07 <Nothing\> at the very least i could rat him out to the canadian revenue agency
21:52:08 <Ampera> I think I am doing very very good financially for being 21
21:52:23 <Ampera> I am happy and proud of what I've been able to accomplish in the little time I've used to accomplish it.
21:52:41 <K> ur doin alright from where i see it
21:52:51 <Nothing\> Ampera, they say if you have money in the bank and no debts, you're doing better than the majority (i forget the percentage but it's no doubt changed in the 20 years since I heard it) of americans
21:53:18 <Nothing\> Ampera, i just hope you're saving away a hefty (key word) nest egg for when you go out on your own.
21:53:25 <Ampera> My cash is over triple my debts
21:53:28 <Nothing\> if there's one thing i wish i'd done, it's that
21:53:38 <Ampera> I've saved over a third of every dollar I've earned.
21:53:38 <Nothing\> i also hope you get good benefits at your job. Especially health.
21:53:43 <Nothing\> health and pension
21:53:52 <Nothing\> Ampera, that's amazing
21:53:56 <Nothing\> most people struggle with 10%
21:53:56 <Ampera> I have a 401k and my healthcare is free because my dad's policy still applies.
21:54:10 <Nothing\> Ampera, yes but will it apply in 30 years time?
21:54:13 <Nothing\> 40 years time?
21:54:25 <Ampera> No, but at that point, presuming I still work here, then the rates are not too bad
21:54:27 <Nothing\> when you're still around, but he might not be. And you'd likely need it the most.
21:54:33 <Nothing\> there ya go
21:54:41 <Ampera> I think in the region of 60$/mo for a PPO750 plan with BCBS of Illinois
21:54:41 <Nothing\> that's another thing i hope
21:54:51 <Nothing\> that there's a lot of room for advancement where you work
21:54:52 <Ampera> (pre-tax)
21:54:56 <Nothing\> long-term feasibility
21:55:13 <Nothing\> especially in the face of emerging technologies which could replace you one day
21:55:58 <Nothing\> it seems like every job is at risk of automation now. I remember 10 years ago there were certain jobs like creative arts which they thought computers could never replace humans in.
21:56:18 <Nothing\> didn't take long for that to happen either
21:56:25 <Ampera> Actually I'm at the forefront of the technology that can replace the job I'd otherwise be doing :)
21:56:32 <Ampera> Automation QA is a good money maker
21:56:36 <Nothing\> oh i guess chatGPT 4 was announced recently
21:56:44 <Nothing\> it doesn't sound like they changed much on the surface though
21:56:59 <Ampera> I just got paid this morning, and I am now 95$ away from having 40k in cash in the bank.
21:57:09 <Nothing\> dude...
21:57:29 <Ampera> I got hired 3 years ago :)
21:57:37 <Nothing\> i've only had $4k in my bank maybe... well less times than i can count on one hand
21:57:54 <Nothing\> i get $1200 a month to live on though
21:58:02 <Nothing\> and my rent is $1400....
21:58:05 <Nothing\> just rent
21:58:23 <Nothing\> if i didn't split the expenses with my mum we couldn't even live here
21:58:24 <Ampera> Socialism at its finest :D
21:58:25 <Nothing\> neither of us
21:58:30 <Nothing\> socalism?
21:58:47 <Nothing\> it's capitalism. If it was socialism we'd be guaranteed an apartment would we not?
21:58:58 <Nothing\> i could be mistaken, i am a bit vague on the nuances
21:59:13 <Ampera> Depends on where you draw the line between socialism, capitalism, and communism.
21:59:26 <Ampera> In communism, you typically weren't even guaranteed food.
21:59:30 <Nothing\> i just know i hate capitalism and everything it stands for. Every advert I see hits me like a jagged lead brick to the heart.
21:59:50 <Nothing\> Ampera, communism and socialism are different though. Don't ask me how, but I just know they are.
21:59:52 <Ampera> It doesn't matter what economic system you live under, they're great if you're winning, and suck if you're losing.
21:59:56 <Nothing\> despite often being used interchangeably
22:00:16 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah tbh every system is flawed so long as corruption exists
22:00:28 <Ampera> anyways, I need to go make tea
22:01:00 <Nothing\> it's like, communism seems ideal, ON PAPER. But you implement it and you get situations like Belarus where the country is run by crooked politicians embezzling public funds while the capital of the country literally crumbles.
22:01:09 <Nothing\> Ampera, earl grey, hot?
22:01:39 <Nothing\> hrm it's times like this i wish i had a snifter of scotch or something
22:01:53 <Nothing\> take a quick belt for some morning courage
22:02:14 <Ampera> Barry's Irish Breakfast, hot
22:02:18 <Nothing\> can't even remember the last time i drank... years and years ago
22:02:35 <Nothing\> Ampera, nice lol that almost sounds like it should be alcoholic
22:02:39 <Nothing\> actually not almost, it DOES
22:17:42 <Nothing\> gah damn anhedonia
22:17:58 <Nothing\> i really hope this goes away once my seasonal depression goes away (if it does)
22:18:24 <Nothing\> i don't even know why i should be seasonally depressed. I literally only leave the house one or two hours a week.
22:22:57 * T3sl4 cuddles Nothing\
22:23:27 * K gives a cudgel
22:23:48 * T3sl4 gives K a kugel
22:24:57 <K> i hope it is w potato and not noodles
22:25:59 <T3sl4> nope, just light
22:26:04 <T3sl4> it's a kugelblitz
22:26:06 * Nothing\ nuzzles T3sl4
22:26:30 <Nothing\> i always thought kugelblitz was a funny name
22:26:46 <Nothing\> makes me think of some high paced workout for your pelvic floor called a kegelblitz
22:26:57 * T3sl4 and K and Nothing\ and Ampera swirl into an accretion disc, transform to xrays and atomic particles, and disappear into nothingness
22:27:22 <K> k.
22:27:26 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i bought universe simulator. I dunno if i'm just not creative enough but i got bored of it shortly after learning to play it
22:27:29 <T3sl4>
22:27:34 <Nothing\> it's like flight simulator
22:27:42 <Nothing\> you do the same few things a couple of times
22:27:47 * Ampera kiss-hugs T3sl4
22:27:47 <Ampera> <3
22:27:50 <Ampera> I wuv u!
22:27:57 * T3sl4 huggles Ampera, blushes
22:28:01 <Ampera> :D
22:28:08 <Nothing\> in FS maybe fly up as high as you can, do some barrel rolls and try to go supersonic in a lear jet
22:28:26 * Ampera pours T3sl4 a cup of irish breakfast
22:28:29 <Nothing\> or everybody i think has tried to recreate 9/11 at some point
22:28:31 <T3sl4> \o/
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22:28:35 <Nothing\> at least in flight sim 98
22:28:41 <Nothing\> or 2000
22:29:13 <T3sl4> yep
22:29:15 <Nothing\> man i DLed a copy of flight sim 2020 and the install size was 160gb!
22:29:34 <Nothing\> biggest game i've ever installed hands down. Before that was Doom Eternal at around 90gb
22:29:38 <T3sl4> there's a lot of maps and geometry in the world, imagine that :P
22:29:47 <Nothing\> but I guess FS has a lot of high res texture files and stuff
22:30:00 <Nothing\> T3sl4, infinitely so one could say
22:30:16 <Nothing\> on account of the fractal nature of coastlines and other geographic landmarks
22:30:27 <T3sl4> i mean, you'll truncate it at some level of detail, even a 4k monitor can't see atoms in the single frame before you crash into the ground
22:30:54 <Nothing\> if only we could get games that can simulate down to the atom
22:30:58 <Nothing\> one day
22:31:11 <Nothing\> assuming silicon gets replaced by something feasible
22:31:25 <Nothing\> it doesn't seem like quantum computing is gonna be any replacement for it imo
22:31:28 * T3sl4 stabs Nothing\ with a blade of grass
22:31:32 <Nothing\> they're gonna need something else
22:31:41 <Nothing\> heh i've been growing all sorts of grasses for my kitty
22:31:47 <Nothing\> just from bird seed
22:32:10 <T3sl4> literally, touch grass. can't simulate any more accurately than irl QM computers :P
22:32:22 <Nothing\> throw some bird seed in a pot, water, set on a window for 1-2 weeks keeping soil moist and you've got a kitty buffet
22:32:35 * electrohead films
22:32:52 * T3sl4 shoves a few blades of grass down electrohead's throat
22:33:12 <electrohead> yay
22:33:15 <Nothing\> hey
22:33:20 <electrohead> yo
22:33:26 <T3sl4> yey
22:33:27 <Nothing\> have either of you ever read or know the story of a streetcar named desire?
22:33:30 <Nothing\> like, in detail
22:33:32 <electrohead> car is warming up, it's fucking cold here
22:33:40 <electrohead> nope
22:33:51 <Nothing\> random question i know, i just watched the simpsons episode about marge being in the musical
22:33:58 <Nothing\> and i decided to look up a synopsis of it
22:34:07 <Nothing\> holy shit is it a fucking depressing stor
22:34:28 <Nothing\> i was trembling just after reading the synopsis it was that viscerally unpleasant
22:35:02 <Nothing\> considering how happy the simpsons made the musical version they had seem, it was a stark contrast to what i expected
22:35:24 <T3sl4> you could kind of anticipate it from their penchant for satire
22:35:33 <Nothing\> not necessarilly happy, but not traumatizingly representative of abusive relationships
22:35:51 <Nothing\> T3sl4, oh for sure that's why i wasn't sure happy was the right word
22:36:18 <Nothing\> heh i was thinking of reading it but just the wiki summary was hard enough
22:36:25 <Nothing\> i don't do well with triggering material though
22:38:29 <K> heh, usaf released video from the drone incident
22:38:36 <electrohead> off to wo(r)k, laters o/
22:38:39 <T3sl4> o/
22:38:43 <K> russia lied, noonee is surprised.
22:38:54 <K> get worked electrohead!
22:38:59 <Nothing\> so get this T3sl4
22:39:01 <electrohead> no u
22:39:16 * T3sl4 works electrohead
22:39:21 <Nothing\> i got some gemstones off of aliexpress a few months ago, including several different types of amethyst, and a few polished samples
22:39:26 <K> work him good!
22:39:45 * T3sl4 workin and workin and workin him well
22:39:57 <Nothing\> i just checked the specific gravity of them yesterday, the unpolished pieces are all right around 2.7 which quartz is 2.65 so it's just what i'd expect
22:40:03 <Nothing\> but the polished pieces were 3.2
22:40:23 <Nothing\> so i dunno what they are but they're sure as heck not amethyst
22:40:32 <Nothing\> glass probably
22:40:46 <Nothing\> it's about the same specific gravity as the fake aquamarine i have
22:41:15 <T3sl4> polished lump amethyst should have some inclusions, grain boundaries etc, it probably looks like crystals
22:41:25 <Nothing\> making me thinki i should check it on all of the rocks i have, at least that'll fit on my graduated cylinder
22:41:33 <T3sl4> i suppose glass lump might too, but it shouldn't quite look the same i suspect
22:41:43 <Nothing\> T3sl4, it has white striations
22:41:48 <Nothing\> and darker purple ones
22:42:02 <Nothing\> i mean it looks for all intents and purposes like amethyst
22:42:03 * T3sl4 shrug
22:42:25 <Nothing\> maybe i screwed up my measurement, i'll have to double check
22:43:14 <Nothing\> actually i have a few polished pieces i should check
22:46:36 <Nothing\> heh i figured out the formula for the interior angle of any n-sided regular polygon the other day
22:47:16 <Nothing\> it's always fun to try and discover things without textbooks or resources like that. Just using your intuition and know-how. Like a puzzle.
22:47:57 <Nothing\> either way it's (n-2*180)/n
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