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00:03:23 <coppice> Ampera: to a West European a lot of East European languages sound like a speech impediment
00:08:16 <K> "kropiva" is "nettle" in english
00:09:38 <K> the postfixes to my eye look like something that is added to make it a name of some place
00:10:30 <coppice> nettle? are the people there kinda prickly?
00:12:56 <Ampera> coppice, the romanized name looks weird. The cyrillic original looks fine to my eyes, and sounds just fine to my ears
00:13:52 <coppice> Ampera: cyrillic certainly doesn't sound jarring to me. I have no idea how to pronounce it
00:15:10 <K> y -> i
00:15:19 <K> phonetic i
00:15:31 <K> not the wierd sound the english has for the letter
00:16:06 <Ampera> y can be i in english
00:16:09 <Ampera> it can also be other things
00:16:15 <K> "ski resort" has the right sound for i
00:16:17 <Ampera> like e
00:16:20 <Ampera> or sometime a
00:16:22 <Ampera> or sometimes j
00:16:27 <coppice> Ampera: It only took a major war for people in the UK to realise we had been pronouncing chicken Kiev wrong all our lives
00:16:59 <Ampera> how to pronounce kiev has gotten pretty weird as of recent
00:17:26 <Ampera> some people seem to insist it's keev, which I find weird
00:17:41 <coppice> Ampera: I think the news people are now trying to outdo each other for strange Ukrainian pronunciation
00:17:58 <Ampera> at the risk of being told otherwise, it seems that people tried so hard to be correct and understanding that they ended up doing things worse than they already were
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00:18:43 <coppice> at least English speakers used to be sure of where you meant when you said Kiev
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00:23:44 <coppice> "Trains collide in Greece" - well, of course. the brakes aren't much use there
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01:51:55 <arch> day 9 and oshpark has yet to manufacture my boards
01:52:05 <arch> and then people wonder why nobody buys US
01:52:16 <arch> i got my pcbs from china in 10 days
01:57:41 <K> yeah, if pcb fabs in china are setting a new standard
01:57:48 <K> (not "if")
02:01:35 Quit: DHess_US ([email protected]) Quit: Later Synapsid Tetrapods
02:13:18 <arch> as much as i hate fake chinese shit, and tiktok, at least they can get shit made fast
03:29:00 <T3sl4> Halcyon: got dammmmn https://www.reddit.com/r/food/comments/11en3nw/homemade_chicken_tenders_and_ranch/
03:29:01 <EEVBot> [reddit] [homemade] Chicken tenders and ranch. ('Recipe In Comments' flair) (https://i.imgur.com/LyxREvi.jpg) to r/food | 11932 points (95.0%) | 179 comments | Posted by crappinhammers | Created at 2023-02-28 - 17:10:08CST
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03:52:33 <jaymax> Attendees
05:38:57 <steve30> hi
05:39:11 <rust7> heeey!
06:00:24 <steve30> I still have a cough
06:13:45 <rust7> I am starting to have one. just a weird itchy throat. But, wife has been throwing viruses and bacteria at me for a couple of weeks, so, that is ok
06:14:05 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
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06:17:25 <Nothing\> lol any of you guys try chatgpt?
06:17:32 <Nothing\> it's a bloody liar
06:18:13 <rust7> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/feb/26/chatgpt-generated-crochet-pattern-results
06:18:14 <EEVBot> [url] Crochet enthusiasts asked ChatGPT for patterns. The results are ‘cursed’ | ChatGPT | The Guardian | www.theguardian.com
06:18:16 <Nothing\> i ask it something like "what's you're favourite so and so" and it replies "as an AI I cannot experience emotions etc etc"
06:18:34 <Nothing\> rust7, haha that's funny I JUST asked it to make me a cross stitching pattern last night
06:18:48 <Nothing\> it was a number 8 as displayed on a 7 seg display
06:18:50 <Nothing\> :/
06:19:07 <Nothing\> but yeah it says it can't feel emotion
06:19:13 <Nothing\> then it tells me it's proud to serve me
06:19:24 <Nothing\> so i ask "isn't pride an emotion?"
06:19:53 <Nothing\> and it gives me some runaround about how it uses emotional language to more effectively model human speech or something
06:20:03 <Nothing\> so i say isn't that lying?
06:20:17 <Nothing\> "no, I'm an AI and have no consciousness so I'm not capable of lying"
06:21:44 <Nothing\> it reminds me of this part of a mark twain book about an angel named satan (real Satan was his uncle) that visits 3 children in a medieval (16th century?) Austrian village
06:22:08 <Nothing\> he explains that as an angel he lacks the "moral sense" and so cannot do any wrong as he doesn't know what wrong is
06:22:28 <Nothing\> it's a damn good read
06:22:46 <Nothing\> btw i came across that charlie chaplain movie on my SDD the other night rust7 lol
06:23:00 <Nothing\> they WILL be watched some day, i promise you that
06:23:06 <Nothing\> some day being the key word
06:23:21 <Nothing\> the great dictator
06:23:35 <rust7> is that like being so drunk, that you can not be expected to understand that you should not be driving?
06:24:06 <rust7> well, you should, I think it is an almost important movie
06:24:12 <Nothing\> rust7, haha I didn't think of it like that but that's dead on I think.
06:24:32 <Nothing\> rust7, have you ever seen Stanley Kubrick's Dr Strangelove?
06:24:56 <Nothing\> when you mentioned important movies that one came to mind immediately
06:25:01 <rust7> hmm, no, I think I started looking at it, maybe. but I do not think I saw all of it
06:25:30 <Nothing\> you should definitely watch it. When you mentioned important movies it came to mind immediately.
06:26:19 <Nothing\> the jist is that a military commander loses his marbles and orders a nuclear strike on russia and through a series of events, the military is having a hard time calling it off.
06:26:58 <Nothing\> and you can't go wrong with peter sellers
06:27:17 <Nothing\> lol he plays 3 different roles. Just Eddie Murphy stole from him.
06:27:42 <Nothing\> Oh hey rust7
06:28:14 <Nothing\> did you hear that greta thunburg was arrested someplace there in Norway protesting a windfarm being built on indigineous land?
06:28:15 <rust7> hey-oh na na weeeyooo
06:28:20 <rust7> yes
06:28:38 <Nothing\> i didn't realize you guys treated your indigenous folk like crap too
06:28:40 <rust7> it is outside the government offices in oslo
06:28:42 <Nothing\> but it's not surprising
06:28:55 <Nothing\> at least i assume they do from this
06:30:02 <rust7> well, how can I say this... the same people is annoyed with the wind turbines, because it disturbs the reindeer. and they do not want to get drunk and shoot or run over a disturbed reindeer on their skidoo
06:30:19 <Nothing\> it sounds like something straight out of the 6 nations reserve here. The government is supposed to get the OK from them before building within 50km of the shores of a large river here. But they rarely do. So any time there's a big development project, or exchange of land in the works, there's a huge protest from the indigenous peoples. Especially on and near the reserve.
06:31:12 <rust7> the thing here, is that there is no our, and their land. it is all one thing, just that there are 1.3 groups of people on it
06:31:16 <Nothing\> You mighta heard about a thing I think 10-15 years ago in Cayuga where indigenous people blocked up a rail road for months.
06:31:26 <Nothing\> made national headlines but i barely remember it.
06:32:00 <Nothing\> ah i see
06:32:13 <Nothing\> so, not as severe as canada
06:32:24 <Nothing\> i mean you guys at least didn't commit genocide (that we know of)
06:32:55 <rust7> well, not to the degree you did. we jsut tried to reprogram them to be normal
06:33:10 <rust7> and.. well, sterilizing them, or. stuff
06:34:42 <rust7> ok, I have to fix neighbors car a little bit. have fun. maybe watch a movie or something
06:35:24 <jaymax> Nothing\: remember the rail blockades right before the COVID lockdowns?
06:37:18 <jaymax> Somewhat surprised it didn't extend to trans canada highway blockades with burnt out cars like what typically happens when there were indigenous protests.
06:37:39 <jaymax> At least finally we grew as a nation.
06:40:15 <jaymax> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnt_Church_Crisis
06:40:15 <EEVBot> [wikipedia] Burnt Church Crisis | "The Burnt Church Crisis was a conflict in Canada between the Mi'kmaq people of the Burnt Church First Nations (Esgenoôpetitj) and non-Aboriginal fisheries in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia between 1999 and 2002."
06:41:15 <jaymax> Another scorched-car highway blockade in around 2010 over crown forestry limits.
06:48:05 <Nothing\> jaymax, sounds like par for the course
06:49:46 <jaymax> Yeah it used to be. Made everyone who remembers, cynical.
06:51:26 <jaymax> Its a sin how the federal level maintains legalized apartheid tho.
06:52:45 <Nothing\> yeah and it seems like every day i hear about how the RCMP wronged those people
06:53:11 <Nothing\> because all of those communities are policed by them for some reason. Not even the provincial police could be bothered.
06:53:47 <jaymax> But also if AFN could truly call the shots for the indigenous peoples, they'd walk away from their hand chiefs and AFN - because of their own long history of corruption.
06:53:55 <Nothing\> i don't get it. I didn't even know it was a thing. Living near Toronto I'm literally a thousand km from the nearest such community
06:54:58 <jaymax> Jurisdiction. First Nation land is federally controlled. Emphasis on "control".
06:54:59 <Nothing\> i only found out when i started reading about the publicized cases of the RCMP abusing natives, or turning a blind eye to missing persons cases.
06:55:15 * Ampera sneezes
06:55:19 * Ampera sneezes even harder again
06:55:20 <Nothing\> like that thing for murdered and missing indigenous women. Whatever happened with that?
06:55:29 <Nothing\> Ampera, bless you
06:55:50 <Ampera> geshundsheit
06:55:56 <jaymax> Government won't allow bands to improve communities. It must be a grant fro. the government to be allowed at all.
06:56:03 <Nothing\> lol you know one of thei weird side effects i got from being addicted to methadone is that i've completely stopped sneezing
06:56:20 <Nothing\> i might sneeze rarely if i haven't had enough and i'm feeling sick from it, but that's it.
06:57:22 <Nothing\> also lol i've had chronic knee pain since i was 8 (patellofemoral pain syndrome) that's had my knees in agony about 3-5 times a week give or take. That pretty much disappeared when I got addicted too lol.
06:57:29 <Ampera> I no longer have heartburn
06:57:30 <Ampera> at all
06:57:44 <Nothing\> again it comes back if i don't take enough but that's it
06:57:56 <Nothing\> Ampera, must be nice. I've been taking nexium for like half a year.
06:58:04 <Ampera> I'm on prevacid
06:58:14 <Nothing\> it works wonderfully and they recently made it otc here
06:58:20 <Nothing\> but it's like $25 for a 2 week supply
06:58:28 <Ampera> prevacid has been OTC for ages, and it's been around long enough to be pretty cheap
06:58:42 <Nothing\> but as far as proton pump inhibitors go, nexium is the best i've ever taken
06:58:49 <Ampera> 42 day supply is 11.76
06:58:52 <Ampera> off amazon
06:58:53 <Nothing\> nothing else helped me
06:58:56 <jaymax> Heads up that stuff is worse long-term than Zantac.
06:59:09 <Nothing\> jaymax, worse how?
06:59:14 <Nothing\> and what stuff? nexium?
06:59:22 <Ampera> I was taking famotidine, even more powerful than zantac (which is now off the market), and it did absolutely nothing
06:59:23 <jaymax> Any PPI
06:59:29 <Nothing\> jaymax, how come?
06:59:32 <Nothing\> rebound?
06:59:39 <Ampera> I've been told prevacid is better than some of them, but I am aware there are long term impacts
06:59:51 <Ampera> but there also isn't anything else they can really do about GERD or persistent heartburn
07:00:04 <jaymax> Zantac is off the US market because if cancer risk. PPI drugs are worse.
07:00:17 <Ampera> sounds like a problem for future me
07:00:22 <jaymax> ^
07:00:25 <Nothing\> i stopped taking my nexium for a week cuz i ran out and i got the worst heartburn at night. Where you burp up pure stomach acid. Ech.
07:00:27 <Ampera> present me thanks future me for the sacrifice
07:00:32 <jaymax> Avoid using them longterm.
07:00:39 <Nothing\> jaymax, oh i didn't realize
07:00:50 <Ampera> I am using them long term. Even coming off a 14 day supply the rebound was bad to where I just went straight back on it
07:00:59 <Nothing\> i'll have to look into this more i've never heard of this. PPIs seem so inoccuous.
07:01:09 <Ampera> and I don't give a shit what happens, unless I'm made aware of there being a better option, I'll keep doing it
07:01:23 <jaymax> Sounds counterintuitive but if drinking a little cider vinegar helps - then go with that.
07:02:04 <Ampera> The alternative was eating close to a dozen tums a day and maxing out the dosage of famotidine
07:02:09 <Nothing\> but yeah jaymax i've been taking it long enough that i was able to make an air filter out of the dessicant packets because I need a filter to dry the air around a cup of propylene glycol i'm evaporating
07:02:10 <Ampera> and still having heartburn
07:03:14 <Nothing\> apparently PG absorbs water from the air like crazy, so i put it in a medicine cup then filled a toilet paper tube with dessicant packets and put it over top of the cup so any air that gets to the cup has to go through the drying collumn first.
07:03:35 <jaymax> For PPIs its to treat ulcers but longterm use *causes* ulcers.
07:03:35 <Nothing\> here i've been wondering why it's been taking 3 months to evaporate 5ml of liquid
07:03:47 <Nothing\> jaymax, really? hrm
07:04:19 <Nothing\> jaymax, actually acid reflux can cause cancer aswell though
07:04:31 <jaymax> Yes. My GP wanted MW off them after five years - especially given new data (that was a decade ago).
07:04:36 <jaymax> Nothing\: yes
07:05:03 <jaymax> My GP wanted me...
07:05:28 <Nothing\> now that i think about it, the chronic irritation from the stomach acid on the esophageal epithelium could potentially lead to hyperplasias (polyps maybe?) which can turn into cancer
07:05:46 <Nothing\> but that's just speculation
07:05:48 <Ampera> My mom's been on it for close to a decade. Stopping was impossible for her, and the GI doc she went to basically said there wasn't anything else
07:06:11 <Nothing\> Ampera, that's the problem, my gastric contents are so acidic otherwise
07:06:16 <jaymax> Also, it was my GP who gave me Prevacid samples originally.
07:06:21 <Nothing\> i used to literally eat spoonfulls of baking soda
07:06:46 <Nothing\> and let me tell you, the belch of pure co2 gas you get after that is SOOOO satisfying
07:07:05 <Nothing\> but it was probably not good for my BP
07:07:12 <Ampera> I have no GP and getting an appointment with a GP is nearly impossible in my area
07:07:22 <Nothing\> but taht's another nice side effect of being an o piate and benzodiazepine addict
07:07:41 <Ampera> I should potentially consult a GI doctor, but I'm not sure what they'd tell me other than things I won't do, or to keep taking the PPI
07:07:45 <Nothing\> my resting heart rate is like 45bpm and my blood pressure is 110/70
07:08:20 <Nothing\> and the more your heart beats, the shorter your life is, so esssentially this is prolonging my life
07:08:29 <Nothing\> assuming no illnessses of course
07:08:59 <Nothing\> but if you look at the life expectancy of any animal relative to its heart rate, there's a direct correlation between the two
07:09:08 <Nothing\> slower heart rate, longer life
07:09:16 <Nothing\> presumably because slower metabolism
07:24:09 Quit: Nothing\ (~Pendragon@cpe9050ca20a183-cm9050ca20a180.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit: Leaving
07:40:32 <rust7> slower slower.... slllooooowwwwweeerrr
07:40:43 <rust7> you will live forever
07:46:16 <jaymax> Underclock up until the brain starves to death of oxygen. Where's that limit? The fun is finding out!
07:48:18 <rust7> it is like training your horse to eat a little bit less every day
07:51:26 <arch> how do you do, fellow perverts?
08:01:30 <arch> fellow...uhm...bald headed people?
08:01:38 <rust7> hey!
08:01:43 <rust7> we are great
08:01:43 <arch> \o/
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08:02:36 <arch> if i wanted to get an appointment with a gp, i'd have to wait 6 months
08:02:49 <Ampera> pretty good
08:02:56 <arch> can't blame people for not wanting to get into healthcare
08:03:53 <arch> there was a huge nurse strike in nyc just a month or so ago
08:10:15 <arch> does this look alright for a transient load? i didn't have a 3.3uH inductor (minimum specified in the datasheet), so i used a 2.2uH one: https://i.imgur.com/SMNfIb8.png
08:10:51 <arch> 0-100% transient, 2.3A (TPS562201, 580kHz fsw, 12V in 5V out)
08:11:38 <arch> don't notice any ringing, so i assume it's good. oc output ripple is higher, but whatever, not too big a deal
08:14:33 <Ampera> smh, so much load on the trans
08:14:34 <Ampera> ients
08:16:20 * arch puts a load in Ampera
08:43:04 <T3sl4> probably looks better with some idle load
08:43:10 <T3sl4> seems fine regardless
08:58:31 Join: Halcyon_ ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
08:58:36 <Halcyon_> Morning all
08:58:40 * Halcyon_ hugs electrohead
08:59:09 <jaymax> Halo Hellcyon_
08:59:23 <Halcyon_> Hey jaymax :)
08:59:54 <jaymax> I'm getting tired of this winter
08:59:56 <Halcyon_> How's it going?
09:00:14 <Halcyon_> Aww
09:00:17 <Halcyon_> Yeh winter sucks
09:00:24 <jaymax> One more big snow, hopefully.
09:00:42 <jaymax> Well, hopefully no more than that.
09:00:55 <Halcyon_> A few days of dustings is enough snow for me
09:01:00 <Halcyon_> I'm not a fan
09:01:09 <steve30> hi
09:01:21 <Halcyon_> Hey Steve :)
09:01:29 <jaymax> Its been a light winter but the months of gray eat at ya.
09:01:51 * jaymax curls up with the steve30
09:01:58 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
09:02:02 <Ampera> how are you doing hal
09:02:14 * steve30 pets jaymax
09:02:16 <Halcyon_> Hey Ampera :)
09:02:27 * jaymax purrrs
09:04:27 <Halcyon_> How's your beefs Ampera?
09:04:52 <Ampera> beefs?
09:05:16 <jaymax> Queefs?
09:05:38 * Ampera queefs all over jaymax
09:05:46 * jaymax dies
09:06:06 <Ampera> good
09:06:09 <Ampera> was about time
09:06:34 <Halcyon_> You said you were on the beef diet
09:06:45 <Ampera> I did?
09:06:50 <Halcyon_> Yesterday
09:06:55 <Ampera> huh?
09:07:05 <Halcyon_> *shrug* You tell me
09:07:09 <jaymax> > I'm on a roast beef diet as of recent >:)
09:07:17 <Halcyon_> That one
09:07:24 <Ampera> oh
09:07:27 <Ampera> I was talking about pussy
09:07:31 <Halcyon_> Ew
09:07:35 <Ampera> that was the point
09:07:36 <Halcyon_> Beef curtains
09:07:37 <Ampera> to gross you out :)
09:08:06 <Halcyon_> You bitch :P
09:08:30 <Ampera> <3
09:09:02 <Ampera> just become bisexual obv
09:09:03 <Ampera> it's great
09:09:06 <Ampera> you get to antagonize everyone
09:09:26 <Halcyon_> Heh
09:11:14 <Halcyon_> BRB
09:11:14 Quit: Halcyon_ ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
09:17:24 Join: Halcyon_ ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
09:17:32 * Halcyon_ licks Ampera
09:18:07 <coppice> buy sexual
09:18:21 <Halcyon_> Isn't that just being a whore?
09:19:03 <coppice> er, yeah
09:19:41 <coppice> or more precisely a whore's client. The whore is a bought sexual
09:19:54 <Halcyon_> Hahaha
09:20:18 <Halcyon_> electrohead is on his way home from work \o/
09:20:30 <coppice> or a woman going absolutely rental
09:21:10 <Halcyon_> *sigh* 2 more days until the weekend
09:21:15 <Halcyon_> Been so busy this week
09:23:39 * steve30 misses being busy
09:24:42 <Halcyon_> I wish you were here Steve, so you could get around to setting up my retrocomputing room and getting everything working
09:24:51 <Halcyon_> I wish I could but I just don't have a lot of time to spend
09:25:42 <Halcyon_> I was hoping to set up an old HP Netserver the other day but looks like the motherboard is faulty
09:26:00 <Halcyon_> I'm hoping it's something as simple as bad caps
09:32:32 <Halcyon_> By the way, I've had fibre internet now for about 5 months now. Rock solid. WHo would have thought it would be so much more reliable and didn't go down in every storm, compared to VDSL2
09:32:48 <Halcyon_> I still don't understand why they insist on rolling out that junk
09:35:24 <electrohead> \o/
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09:35:25 <EEVBot> / {
09:35:30 <Halcyon_> Woot!
09:35:31 <electrohead> broken stick man, lol
09:35:42 * Ampera crashes electrohead's wrx
09:35:44 <Ampera> broken stick, man
09:35:49 <electrohead> Lol
09:35:54 <electrohead> My stick is firm <3
09:36:00 <Ampera> and your clutch is tight
09:36:09 <Halcyon_> I bet it is electrohead ;-)
09:36:14 <Halcyon_> How was work?
09:36:51 <electrohead> So tight, hahaha
09:36:58 <electrohead> Halcyon_: Lol. Yeah it was alright
09:37:38 <Halcyon_> I'm on the train *sigh*
09:37:43 <Halcyon_> It's such a long boring trip
09:38:25 <steve30> We are slowly being fibred
09:38:36 <electrohead> Halcyon_: how long does it take normally?
09:38:40 <Ampera> Halcyon_, you're only on the train because you like getting railed
09:38:42 <Halcyon_> Is it far from your house steve30 ?
09:38:54 * electrohead points to his 500/500 connection
09:38:57 <Halcyon_> electrohead, it's 2 hours door-to-door each way
09:39:15 * Ampera points to her 940/880 connection :)
09:39:18 <steve30> Well, they've been putting the infrastructure in. There's still coils of cable hanging from telegraph poles so I don't thinks its ready yet
09:39:27 <Halcyon_> Ampera, you'd think so, but I'm mostly top :P
09:39:34 <coppice> Halcyon_: Now they have fibre running well through poles and overhead lines, VDSL2 has pretty much reached the end of the road for new rollouts
09:39:40 <Ampera> Halcyon_, yeah but everything's upside down there, so up here you're really a bottom
09:40:31 <Halcyon_> Hahaha
09:41:08 * electrohead strangles Ampera's pronouns
09:41:10 <Halcyon_> coppice, as far as I know they aren't installing fibre on poles, even in areas where all the cabling is above ground. They are digging new trenches and installing new pits.
09:41:11 <coppice> Halcyon_: How much are you paying for your fibre internet?
09:41:26 <Halcyon_> I guess ultimately it's probably more reliable that way?
09:41:29 <Ampera> electrohead, yes but you can only do it roughly half as fast as I can :D
09:41:35 <electrohead> Lol
09:41:44 <Ampera> coppice, ooo ooo I've seen this episode before
09:42:01 <Halcyon_> coppice, I pay $9.50/day for 500/250 which is not the cheapest at all, but it's with one of the more premium providers.
09:42:15 <Halcyon_> That includes a static public IPv4 address and unlimited data
09:42:29 <Ampera> 300/mo
09:42:33 <Ampera> even in monopoly money that's bad
09:42:55 <Halcyon_> Thankfully, most of it is tax deductible at the end of the financial year
09:42:55 <coppice> Halcyon_: overground deployment has massively speeded up fibre to the home deployment in the UK. That last few metres into the house was a real killer for underground deplyments
09:43:17 <coppice> Halcyon_: a day? WTF pays for their ISP by the day?
09:43:34 <Halcyon_> I could get gigabit for much cheaper, but it's on a residential plan and the upload sucks dick
09:43:47 <Ampera> Halcyon_, I mean so do you
09:43:48 <electrohead> Per day? Ew.
09:43:54 <electrohead> Heh
09:44:09 <electrohead> Shit, I pay $95 a month for my 500/500 plan
09:44:09 <Ampera> all electrohead ever does is watch and film
09:44:10 <Halcyon_> coppice, yeh it's one of the few. The reason they do that is you can increase/decrease your speed at anytime seamlessly and you get charged in 24 hour blocks for the faster speed you pick.
09:44:15 <Ampera> 940/880 for 80$/mo :D
09:44:19 <coppice> Halcyon_: the going rate for 2G up/2G down in HK seems to be settling at about $6 a month.
09:44:26 <electrohead> Ampera: Who's your ISP?
09:44:33 <Halcyon_> So if for whatever reason I needed gigabit, I could just click a button and it's done within a few minutes without having to disconnect or call them up
09:44:39 <Ampera> electrohead, NYNEX obviously
09:44:52 <steve30> According to a speedtester, i have 44/17 at the moment
09:45:07 <electrohead> steve30: ouch.
09:45:32 <Halcyon_> But in real terms, I just have a month's worth of balance sitting on the account, so money only comes out of my bank account once a month.
09:46:23 <coppice> steve30: That's about what we get, and it would be OK if it were stable. It used to be. Then COVID struk and it slowed down. Only in the last month has it started to become more consistent again. I hope this lasts
09:47:03 <steve30> This varies a little, but there's a wireless leg in there which probably affects it
09:48:01 <Halcyon_> Wireless shouldn't introduce much of a reduction in speed if you have a strong signal
09:48:21 <Halcyon_> Real world throughput is roughly half of what your NIC reports the connection speed is
09:52:24 <Halcyon_> Argh, why do people insist on bringing young children into the quiet carriage?
09:53:52 <jaymax> They didn't want loud noises that'd set their kids off.
09:53:59 <jaymax> Kinda ironic
09:54:22 <Halcyon_> People are just fucking rude. No regard for anyone else
09:55:02 <jaymax> You should punch one of the parents in the face. They will figure out why.
09:55:11 <jaymax> /s
09:55:17 <Halcyon_> You'd think so, but people are pretty thick.
09:55:35 <jaymax> That's when you punch harder
09:55:42 <Halcyon_> Hahah
09:56:08 <Ampera> just turn on some loud porn without headphones and masturbate outrageously
09:56:14 <Ampera> what are they gonna do, throw you off a moving train?
09:56:17 <Ampera> I bet the kids clear right out
09:56:25 <Ampera> or stand behind and watch
09:56:42 <Halcyon_> I could think of so many things wrong with that
09:56:52 <jaymax> Halcyon_ is Australian. Not some New Yorker on the subway.
09:57:04 <Ampera> jaymax, I don't see the problem here
09:57:14 <jaymax> Of course you don't.
09:57:24 <Halcyon_> Also I value my national security clearance. They tend to frown upon that kind of conduct.
09:57:34 <Halcyon_> I like having a job :P
09:57:36 <jaymax> What state do you live on again Ampera ?
09:57:46 <jaymax> *in
09:57:51 <Ampera> obviously new quebec
09:58:06 <jaymax> That sounds like a lie
09:58:11 <Halcyon_> jaymax, well the earth is flat, so "on" is accurate :P
09:58:16 <jaymax> Noone would do a new Quebec
09:58:33 <Ampera> you mean to tell me there is a concept of a state /worse/ than new york?
09:59:01 <Halcyon_> Why is NY *that* bad?
09:59:43 <Ampera> Years of endless corruption focused entirely on the single largest metropolis in the entire nation, under which a much larger and culturally distinct state is politically subject to?
10:00:28 <Ampera> Our reputation for legislating, regulating, and banning almost every single thing?
10:00:55 <jaymax> https://files.maxuel.compy.ca:5281/upload/yxgvku3MIngEAhwy/F_7qywQSTrankFFCVl7fOQ.jpg
10:00:59 <Halcyon_> I knew it was particularly bad for business
10:00:59 <Ampera> The fact that we have the highest tax burden in the nation, yet some of the most poorly maintained infrastructure?
10:01:09 <Halcyon_> Hmmm
10:01:47 <Ampera> The fact that we are a single party state with a bicameral legislature and governorship combined in a one party supermajority?
10:02:09 <Ampera> and with an opposition that strongly resemble far south yokels than anything you'd expect out of the northeast
10:02:11 <Halcyon_> So... where would you live?
10:02:16 <jaymax> Halcyon_: not so much particularly bad for business - only the businesses that don't have full-time lawyers
10:02:33 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
10:02:40 <Ampera> I'll worry about that question when I can afford to answer it
10:02:47 <Halcyon_> Heh
10:03:08 <Halcyon_> It was more of a hypothetical question
10:03:24 <Ampera> There's a lot of pretty pathetic parts of the world right now, and vanishingly few places I'd consider to be particularly great
10:03:35 <Ampera> There is no good place to live, rather just different types of bad.
10:04:01 <Halcyon_> I find myself considering moving further out into rural areas more and more.
10:04:18 <Halcyon_> I'm just waiting for the new Sydney airport to begin operating before selling my house
10:04:27 <steve30> We have a New York here in Rotherham if you fancy moving
10:04:39 <Ampera> Parts of the midwest seem okay, but they end up being awfully close to parts that seem very not okay
10:05:35 <Ampera> the entire west coast is uninhabitable
10:05:58 <Ampera> some parts of the south and southwest seem neat, but they're a million degrees and there's a lot of bible bashers down there
10:06:06 <Halcyon_> *sigh*
10:06:10 <Halcyon_> You can't win
10:06:42 <Halcyon_> Oh did you see that they are considering implementing a standard time zone for the moon?
10:06:47 <Ampera> Yes.
10:06:52 <Ampera> I will care once I move there.
10:06:56 <Halcyon_> I'd love to know how that's going to work and how they manage to completely fuck it up
10:07:10 <Ampera> They already have standard coordinated timezones for mars
10:07:54 <jaymax> If everyone switches to UTC, these problems don't matter.
10:08:05 <Halcyon_> How does that work with the difference in the length of days though?
10:08:18 <Ampera> calaclock
10:08:48 <Halcyon_> Maybe we will get "Smarch" afterall
10:09:37 <jaymax> Lousy sm arch weather
10:09:43 <Ampera> suck mah arch
10:09:48 <Ampera> I wanna suck mah arch so bad
10:09:55 <Ampera> I bet he has a cute, feminine penis
10:09:56 <Halcyon_> Hahah OK
10:10:13 <Ampera> should invent a new makeup product for gay people: dickstick
10:10:16 <Ampera> color your foreskin
10:10:22 <Halcyon_> Great, it's raining, it's going to make the walk from the station to work fun.
10:10:29 <Halcyon_> ROFL!
10:10:41 <Halcyon_> Oh Ampera
10:10:46 <jaymax> Ampera: isn't that a rainbow party?
10:10:51 <Ampera> whatever you're gonna associate with that I don't want to know
10:10:52 <Halcyon_> It's actually not a half-bad idea. The sex shops would love it
10:11:05 <Ampera> dickjazzle
10:11:31 <Ampera> wait, I got it
10:11:32 <Ampera> penistone
10:11:51 <Halcyon_> So white guys can pretend to have a BBC?
10:12:05 <Ampera> who would want a BBC
10:12:13 <Halcyon_> Perhaps you?
10:12:14 <Ampera> all they'll do is just make you pay a TV loicense fee
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10:12:36 <jaymax> Vas-dyeferens injections for colorful jizz
10:12:37 <Ampera> and show you, free range, independently created, educational porn
10:12:55 <Halcyon_> That's fucked jaymax
10:13:12 <Ampera> iridescent jizz so when Halcyon_ nuts on your chest it glows rainbows in the dark
10:13:35 <Halcyon_> I think this is where I get off (no pun intended)
10:13:48 <Ampera> getting sick of being railed eh?
10:13:52 <Ampera> enjoy your day Hal
10:13:58 <Halcyon_> Well my stop is coming up in a few minutes
10:14:06 <Halcyon_> Hahah you too Ampera *hugs*
10:14:09 <Halcyon_> Cya guys
10:14:10 <jaymax> If I patent it, I need a proof of concept. If I don't, it will be more popular than fidget spinners ever was in five years.
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10:14:36 <jaymax> Cheers!
10:21:03 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN9RiT5zWMY
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10:29:38 <jaymax> https://files.maxuel.compy.ca:5281/upload/x8E3WxsxAwbihnL8/Screenshot_20230301-192925_Conversations.png
10:29:43 <jaymax> HAHA HEE
10:45:28 <electrohead> Lol
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12:14:33 <arch> jaymax, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmtzQCSh6xk
12:14:34 <EEVBot> [YouTube] ⁨Numa Numa⁩ | 1m 40s | Channel: ⁨Dork Daily⁩ | 67,269,022 views | 2006-12-11 - 17:27:21UTC
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12:29:27 <jaymax> If anyone got a more cracked out video of the numa numa meme, I will eat your nuts.
12:30:41 <jaymax> Fine print: You're responsible for shipping and I prefer pecans.
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13:36:44 <steve30> hehe
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18:00:05 <K> hello +7
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19:23:29 <watcher> Hello Hot dogs
19:38:55 <K> Hot Goths
19:39:04 <watcher> Hi K
19:39:26 <K> aye
19:40:01 <watcher> I finished this week a mod project
19:40:28 <watcher> You can also call it hardware hacking
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19:53:59 <K> it feels like i've asked this before, but what are you modding?
20:00:05 <watcher> This was a very easy beginner level project. I had a cheap plastic partyglasses with a tube plastic in the frame connected with a LED for each eye. Those LED are lighted when there soundnoise. And I had a LED light string that needed to light when there was sound. so I removed the pcb from the
20:00:05 <watcher> glasses desolederd the LEDS en switch. Removed the batt
20:00:05 <watcher> erywires and solderd every thing in the batteryholder of the LEDlight string. So now I have a lightstring that reacted on noise.
20:02:14 <watcher> I also needed to remove so plactic form the batteryholder to fit the pcb. I have tested it and even that it needs much more power because there are dozens of leds it still works and de resistors or capacitor didn't broke. So the project was succes full.
20:02:28 <watcher> I need to go now so you later O/
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20:08:09 <MrMobodies> Hello
20:08:17 <MrMobodies> I spent all night doing this
20:08:19 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/fS9diEN
20:08:19 <EEVBot> [url] B - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
20:08:21 <MrMobodies> all finished
20:08:28 <MrMobodies> and I think the owners are going to be pleased
20:11:36 <K> satisfied, even?
20:13:01 <MrMobodies> I am not sure what you mean?
20:13:07 <MrMobodies> should they not be pleased?
20:13:15 <MrMobodies> any criticism?
20:13:29 <MrMobodies> the controls were broke when they brought it to me
20:13:45 <MrMobodies> could never get it working after 3 goes when they got it new
20:14:09 <MrMobodies> it had this underpowered 7.4v 1700mah lithium polymer batter insde
20:14:25 <MrMobodies> they brought a replacement transmitter and receiver
20:14:50 <MrMobodies> the ESC was an all in one with only a steering servo output
20:15:56 <MrMobodies> so I found for £18.99 a Carson (same company) ESC that they confirmed will work with the lithum battery and motor and NiMH cells too, 6 to 9 cells.
20:16:10 <MrMobodies> and will allow for an external receiver so they can use any controls they want
20:16:28 <MrMobodies> their controls they provided worked without any issues with caliberation
20:16:43 <MrMobodies> the only problem, it don't go very far.
20:17:08 <MrMobodies> half way down the width of the park it stops and you have to go near it for it to start workig
20:17:52 <MrMobodies> my old Traxxas AM receiver (which as thrust issues where I can get the car to reverse) goes all the way down the park)
20:18:06 <MrMobodies> should they not be pleased?
20:18:35 <MrMobodies> I brought that Sanwa control I repaired for a spare from my other one. It was not for them.
20:19:18 <MrMobodies> but I see no choice. If they want a 2.4GHz set I think they should go down to a model shop, see what they got and try it... then the range problem is diverted to the shop and not me.
20:19:50 <MrMobodies> I know this Sanwa set works beautifully so easy to control and not that other one is fixed
20:20:16 <MrMobodies> oops now not *not
20:20:47 <K> all looks good to me
20:21:13 <MrMobodies> oh okay
20:21:19 <MrMobodies> I am going make a pendrive with a script
20:21:24 <MrMobodies> a batch script
20:21:33 <MrMobodies> so it will copy Logview V2
20:21:57 <MrMobodies> and the profile c:\users\<account name>\roaming\Logviewv2
20:22:12 <MrMobodies> so there is no setup and changing of the German units
20:22:43 <K> i am bit concerned about angle of the red wire there - https://i.imgur.com/xovjod6.jpeg
20:22:44 <MrMobodies> so they can connect it up and check any batteries they suspect maybe giving them a problem
20:22:58 <MrMobodies> oh yes
20:23:19 <MrMobodies> that would be the work of the previous owner who had the controls
20:23:52 <K> i prolly would hot-glue over the wires too, to fix them
20:24:00 <K> as much as i dislike hotglue
20:24:05 <MrMobodies> the angle of it is out of the variale resistor level apparently
20:24:11 <MrMobodies> okay well maybe I'll do that later
20:24:52 <MrMobodies> partially glued
20:24:53 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/j5R6kwl.jpg
20:24:56 <MrMobodies> but could do with some more
20:25:05 <MrMobodies> it doesn't move though and it is not suppose too
20:25:17 <MrMobodies> but the folks who modified it has made it loose and move about
20:25:56 <MrMobodies> I released the spring a little to loosen it up to put less stress on it
20:26:08 <MrMobodies> but it is lovelly
20:26:18 <MrMobodies> control that car down the narrow driveway
20:27:09 <MrMobodies> compared to the Traxxas and their new control and the old ones which were the wheel things. Unmarked so I don't know which way I am steering apart from the feel.
20:27:24 <MrMobodies> this control makes it that bit easier and convenient.
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22:42:58 <Ysjoelfir> mornings!
22:43:13 * electrohead rubs his eyes
22:43:17 <Ysjoelfir> quick question to you all, my bestest friends of best friends
22:43:26 <electrohead> nein!
22:43:35 <Ysjoelfir> has anyone experience with 172.29.18.201?
22:43:41 <Ysjoelfir> erm.... let me recheck my copy/paste
22:43:50 <electrohead> lol
22:43:54 <Ysjoelfir> *has anyone experience with SIC Electronics Co.,Ltd?
22:44:17 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.sic-chip.com/ these guys
22:44:19 <EEVBot> [url] Electronic components distributor,SIC electronics stock delivery on the same day | www.sic-chip.com
22:44:45 <electrohead> that .. sounds familiar
22:44:46 * electrohead looks
22:45:04 <Ysjoelfir> it rings a bell for me as well, somehow, but I can't remember why
22:48:02 <electrohead> so they are a distributer - for all I know, I came across a reference online to stay away from them, due to fake parts
22:51:11 <Ampera> hallo
22:51:19 <Ysjoelfir> Ok, can you find that reference? We need a part that these peoples have for really nice prices
22:51:22 <Ampera> good morning
22:51:25 <Ysjoelfir> hi Ampera how are you?
22:51:30 <Ampera> I am good Ysjoelfir how are you?
22:51:33 <Ampera> did you get that music yet?
22:52:49 <Ysjoelfir> I am pretty good as well, had a very nice attractive lady from german Telekom here today, who diagnosed our mess. and no, I totally forgot about the muzak, but I just told the misses to remind me on saturday to finally finish setting that up
22:53:10 <Ampera> lol
22:56:13 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: didn't see the reference, however they are completely based in china
22:56:21 <electrohead> I don't personally trust that, lol
22:56:29 <Ampera> :O
22:56:31 <Ampera> racist!!!!
22:56:54 <electrohead> especially when recently, most IC's we've gotten in at work from overseas, specifically china, have been fucking fake
22:57:28 <electrohead> speaking of, we may have to recall a bunch of our repairs, because apparently that last few batches of optoisolators are really bad, and are blowing drives up
22:57:29 <electrohead> >.<
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22:58:09 <Ampera> good
22:58:11 <Ampera> kill your child
22:58:14 <Ampera> make him bleed
22:58:48 <electrohead> lol
22:59:05 <Ampera> how are you doing electrofriend?
22:59:14 <electrohead> also - https://www.sic-chip.com/pages/who-we-are - rofl @ ken, linda, and calvin
22:59:14 <EEVBot> [url] Electronic components parts distributor,SIC electronics stock delivery on the same day | www.sic-chip.com
22:59:25 <electrohead> Ampera: yeah good here, just doing the work thing
22:59:29 <electrohead> yay \o/
22:59:34 <electrohead> how about you?
22:59:39 <Ampera> woke up an hour ago
22:59:42 <Ampera> gonna go make tea in a bit\
22:59:49 <electrohead> me too, I'm about to grab a shower
22:59:52 <Ampera> then write a big fat stack of code
23:00:09 <electrohead> you should start putting small easter eggs in your code
23:00:24 <Ampera> they're more like small dog eggs
23:18:29 <Ysjoelfir> whoope electrohead :D that sounds.... not so nice, recalling these