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00:04:28 <steve30000> nope, i like the peace and quiet
00:13:45 <K> meanwhile - https://www.instagram.com/reel/CopSUNbJr2M/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y
00:14:13 <K> btw where the hell is Ampera
00:14:17 <Ampera> fuck you
00:14:19 <Ampera> <3
00:14:29 <K> ur late!
00:15:07 <Ampera> I was busy doing things and stuff
00:18:38 <K> but did the things need doing?
00:18:46 <Ampera> Yes.
00:18:47 <Ampera> Yes they did.
00:19:14 <K> i will need a reference for that
00:19:48 <Ysjoelfir> Done things are doing great I suppose
00:20:06 <Ysjoelfir> Also, hi Ampera, how is the you doing?
00:20:33 <Ampera> I'm doing good, Ysjoelfir how are you
00:20:57 <Ysjoelfir> pretty nice, thanks
00:21:00 <Ysjoelfir> and how is K?
00:21:14 <K> is acceptable
00:21:22 <K> we have fucking snow, again
00:21:27 <Ampera> things that needed doing caused a delay in the making of this morning's tea
00:21:32 <Ampera> which I may go and rectify in a moment
00:21:49 <K> fully rectified tea!
00:23:03 <K> (electroboom noises)
00:24:39 <steve30000> snowing here too
00:27:03 <K> completely unnecessary
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00:32:25 <Ysjoelfir> it snowed here yesterday
00:32:30 <Ysjoelfir> its completely gone again
00:32:35 * Ysjoelfir is annoyed
00:34:35 * steve30000 fires a snowball at Ysjoelfir
00:34:48 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
00:34:48 <EEVBot> I
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00:40:04 <Ampera> I got fucked 8 inches deep on saturday.
00:40:15 <Ampera> shit was wet and heavy
00:40:41 <Ampera> I wore myself out trying to clear it
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00:41:48 <K> 8 inches too much for you eh
00:42:15 <Ampera> not the hardest I've ever gotten fucked, but it's still too deep
00:42:46 <K> just too much and no end in sight
00:42:52 <steve30000> You don't strike me as the kind of person who would "get fucked" :p
00:50:43 <Ampera> steve30000, oh and why is that?
00:52:38 <steve30000> Maybe Halcyon paid a visit :D
00:53:21 <steve30000> Of the subject of Ampera, I was thinking about you this morning when I went for a pleasant walk through New York.
00:53:44 <Ampera> That is the most fucked up sentence I have ever read in every single possible respect.
00:53:49 <Ampera> None of that should be even remotely possible.
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01:06:45 <K> it cant all be that bad, surely
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01:41:14 <watcher> Hello\
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02:01:27 <K> get watched.
02:04:57 <watcher> Yes
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04:25:43 <Kuschelpony> whinny
04:38:29 <rust7> hey pony master
04:38:53 <rust7> did you finish putting those speakers in place?
04:49:40 <Kuschelpony> yes
04:49:52 <Kuschelpony> already last week but i do not have made photos yet
04:50:12 <rust7> but, do they sound good?
04:50:24 <Kuschelpony> have decided to put this back for a while, no as expected from these speakers not
04:50:40 <Kuschelpony> i did it mostly for the retro factor and to play with the surround matrix
04:50:52 <Kuschelpony> that the speakers have a uneven frequency response waas expected
04:51:08 <Kuschelpony> the longterm plan is anyway to add a power amplifier into the box with equalizing network
04:52:05 <Kuschelpony> on a more positive side, got my two accumulator chergers earlier than expected today, was scheduled for friday
04:53:44 <rust7> oh no! then you have 2 days too much, to work on stuff.
04:59:07 <Kuschelpony> and much more opportunities to analyze doubtful cells
04:59:29 <rust7> what sort of batteries is this for?
05:00:46 <Kuschelpony> all from AAA to 32700, NiMH and Li-Ion
05:00:59 <rust7> oh, that sounds handy
05:01:29 <Kuschelpony> its the Opus BT-C3100 4-channel charger and the BT-C100 single channel charger
05:02:36 <Kuschelpony> the latter one has the special feature that it can also run from an charged ceel to act as USB powerbank, also gives a good overview of cell health during discharge tests
05:07:02 <Kuschelpony> also got a pack of 18500 Li-ion-cells as upgrade for my flashlight, to replace the 3*AAA
05:08:56 <rust7> I have to find some use for my 18650s, I am not sure why, but I keep them around.
05:10:02 <Kuschelpony> i have not yet a place for them
05:10:35 <Kuschelpony> would have been great for the flashlights, but getting a custom case extender with these fine threads machined would have costed a lot more than just buying the right size cells
05:11:19 <rust7> so, you need a lathe, so you can make stuff forever
05:15:21 <Kuschelpony> even if i would have one i could perhaps not...
05:15:27 <Kuschelpony> thats for the mchanics wizards
05:28:42 <rust7> well, you do not have to use it for all the things it can do. but, you can do a lot with one, and if you need an extended flashlight today, and maybe a piece of pipe tomorrow, and a copper washer next week. it adds up, so it turns out to be a good investment? But yes, it is a thing you probably have to want to use
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05:58:51 <rust7> hmm, and yes, I should shut up, bacause I do not have a lathe either
06:25:33 <steve30000> Youtube is recommending more steamed hams to me
06:25:34 <steve30000> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6mJ4XY0oQ
06:25:34 <EEVBot> [YouTube] ⁨Steamed Hams but it's voiced entirely by Amiga 500's text to speech function⁩ | 3m 10s | Channel: ⁨Jakub Majewski⁩ | 119,076 views | 2018-04-03 - 13:44:49UTC
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08:52:46 * jaymax enters the chat poop first
09:39:47 <electrohead> o/
09:46:43 <jaymax> Ayy
09:51:12 <electrohead> Sup stud
09:52:52 <jaymax> Modifying a stock RPi SD to enable sshd
09:53:57 <electrohead> Hrmm?
09:54:07 <electrohead> Oh, modifying raspbian?
09:54:18 <Ampera> Raspberry Pi OS, sir.
09:54:47 <jaymax> Either say, I guess I need to touch /boot/ssh
09:55:26 <electrohead> systemctl enable sshd.service ?
09:55:39 <electrohead> or, is that different?
09:55:43 <jaymax> From filesystem sir
09:55:53 <jaymax> Not when I'm suitting at its TTY
09:56:03 <electrohead> Got ya
09:56:56 <jaymax> My KVM needs more HDMI-to-DVI adapters, some day.
09:57:22 <jaymax> Meantime I gotta do dumdum workarounds
10:00:42 <jaymax> Hmm, still refused.
10:02:31 * electrohead powervias all over Ampera
10:07:31 <jaymax> Guess I'm etching this thing again. Harumph. https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-bullseye-update-april-2022/
10:07:35 <EEVBot> [url] An update to Raspberry Pi OS Bullseye - Raspberry Pi | www.raspberrypi.com
10:08:20 <jaymax> Still a headless way but entirely dependent on the image you push.
10:09:55 <Halcyon> Morning puka shells
10:11:35 <jaymax> Puka shells.... Are those, New York clams?
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10:12:10 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
10:12:23 <jaymax> My name's Joel.
10:12:56 <Halcyon> Hahah hey jaymax :)
10:13:07 <Halcyon> Ooooh my toastie is done
10:13:23 <jaymax> :^)
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10:23:11 * electrohead rubs on Halcyon
10:23:25 <electrohead> jaymax: I install arch linux on all of my r.pi's, heh
10:23:42 <jaymax> Well that's good for you.
10:23:50 <jaymax> LOL
10:24:04 <electrohead> Yeah it works for me :p
10:24:21 <Halcyon> Hey electrohead :)
10:24:36 <electrohead> Sup you sexy thang <3
10:24:38 <electrohead> Lol
10:24:42 <Halcyon> Not much mate, just working
10:24:45 <Halcyon> How about you?
10:24:55 <electrohead> Yeah I'm now from work, I'm pooped
10:24:58 <jaymax> I BELIVE IN MIRACLES
10:25:06 <jaymax> So where ya from?
10:25:08 * Halcyon bops along with jaymax
10:25:14 <jaymax> You sexy thang <3
10:25:27 <jaymax> You sexy thing, you.
10:25:44 <Halcyon> I need to pewp. Back soon
10:25:50 <electrohead> Halcyon is from another world, it's weird there
10:26:00 <electrohead> I think it's called "straya" or something like that
10:26:02 <electrohead> :p
10:26:08 <jaymax> Strata.
10:26:41 <jaymax> Their housing fees is the same thing they call their country.
10:27:39 <jaymax> Not gonna lie, it seems like a neat place.
10:30:25 <jaymax> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNQNIvbO3aw
10:30:25 <EEVBot> [YouTube] ⁨bushworld adventures except every time they swear it gets faster⁩ | 6m 10s | Channel: ⁨Creamy_444⁩ | 118,524 views | 2021-06-29 - 04:04:35UTC
10:41:45 * Halcyon hugs electrohead
10:41:53 <Halcyon> Straya doesn't exist :P
10:41:57 <Halcyon> Don't tell anyone though
10:45:19 <Halcyon> It's too close to the ice wall anyway, you wouldn't be allowed to come here. NASA would stop you.
10:48:06 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
10:48:07 <Ampera> <3
10:48:10 <Ampera> I wuv u
10:49:58 <Halcyon> Aww :)
10:50:12 <Ampera> how are you doing Hal?
10:51:47 <electrohead> jaymax: what the fuck did I just watch? lol
10:52:03 * electrohead rehugs Halcyon
10:52:13 <jaymax> Halcyon pewping?
10:53:37 <electrohead> no, the link you posted before
10:53:44 <electrohead> I watched it while I ate a sandwich
10:53:50 <jaymax> Yeah, Halcyon pewping?
10:54:04 <jaymax> The accelerating bushworld adventure
10:54:38 <electrohead> yeah that, haha
10:59:10 <jaymax> Got into the RPi and...
10:59:14 <jaymax> > Modifications complete. Press any key to shutdown. Once the green LED stops blinking and turns off for 10 seconds, remove power and move the MicroSD card to the Libre Computer Board.
11:00:00 <electrohead> Oh nice
11:00:02 <electrohead> :D
11:00:05 <electrohead> also, I want this - https://curiousmarcs-store.creator-spring.com/listing/friden-calculator?product=227
11:02:53 <jaymax> electrohead, https://i.imgflip.com/z0n3b.jpg
11:03:42 <electrohead> !giphy jaymax
11:03:42 <EEVBot> electrohead: https://media2.giphy.com/media/XZ1ScVgLl6Ae25yGIw/giphy.gif?cid=28c3c3c8a592a21a7e3ec3e13312b01620eb73ed750aa3df&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
11:04:09 <electrohead> Well now
11:05:10 <jaymax> Thats right bby
11:05:22 <electrohead> <3
11:05:45 <jaymax> https://files.maxuel.compy.ca:5281/upload/78wMOIAuXgOP77QU/Loden_Taylor10.jpg
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11:07:18 <jaymax> Something to aspire too....
11:07:21 <jaymax> https://files.maxuel.compy.ca:5281/upload/NfE4UUFFAdLuPRTB/Former_DILF01.jpg
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11:09:30 <electrohead> lol
11:12:24 <jaymax> Aight, I successfully converted a Raspbian/PiOS for the Libretech board. So I should be able to do the hat compatibility stuff better, now.
11:12:49 <electrohead> There you go
11:13:15 <jaymax> Now to truly test that with the display kippah.
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12:55:15 <arch> if any of you fools are on lastpass...make sure you gtfo from it. it's a fucking speedrunning security hazard
13:03:41 <Ampera> I am just on pass
13:03:43 <Ampera> hard pass
14:07:16 * Halcyon licks Ampera
14:07:25 <Halcyon> arch: I use Bitwarden
14:08:15 <arch> cool, that was gonna be my second pick. we went with 1password
14:08:49 <Halcyon> 1Pass is alright, we use it at work. I just don't particularly like the interface
14:09:49 <Halcyon> I also use FIDO U2F keys as a second-factor auth
14:09:57 <Halcyon> Not sure if 1Password supports those.
14:10:32 <Halcyon> Plus I like that it's open source
14:33:17 * Halcyon hugs electrohead
15:05:36 <arch> lookie lookie...new website for elec goldmine https://theelectronicgoldmine.com/
15:05:37 <EEVBot> [url] The Electronic Goldmine | The Electronic Goldmine - Wholesale Electronic Parts | theelectronicgoldmine.com
15:05:54 <Halcyon> I love stores like that
17:17:39 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
17:17:39 Set By: (ChanOP) on: Sat Jun 04 09:17:37 2022
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17:36:35 * steve30000 waves
17:36:51 <DogWomble> insert greeting here
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17:43:19 <watcher> Hello
17:43:50 <DogWomble> hey :)
17:44:30 <steve30000> its forecast snow all day today
17:44:58 <DogWomble> just be careful if it's yellow
18:05:29 <K> hello ladles
18:06:15 <watcher> Hello Kellog special K
18:06:16 * Ysjoelfir spoons K
18:15:28 * steve30000 curls up on Ysjoelfir's lap
18:16:24 * watcher pets steve30000 curled up on Ysjoelfir's lap
18:18:03 * Ysjoelfir watches watcher petting steve30000 curled up on his lap
18:19:05 * watcher know this before because from looking in Ysjoelfir agenda
18:19:14 <Ysjoelfir> xD
18:20:56 * Ysjoelfir wonders when he had to actively sort out manufacturers when looking through digikeys stock
18:23:14 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, I remember some months ago it was pretty normal for me to basically just mark all eg. manufacturers of diodes, and just remove like.... onSemi. Now I have to remove things like "Yangzhou Zangjie Electronic Technology Co. Ltd" or "ANBON SEMICONDUCTOR (INT'L) LIMITED". when did all these add digikeys manufacturer database?
18:25:51 <Ysjoelfir> and what is it with nexperias fetish for commas in component names?
18:25:56 * Ysjoelfir is on a little rant spree
18:26:00 * Ysjoelfir excuses himselt
18:31:50 * Ysjoelfir has to continue because he noticed, that in the Nexperia Datasheet there is no mention at all about these stupid ,215 / ,235 appendixes
18:32:09 <Ysjoelfir> so what is it now? which part should I choose? what does this comma sayyyyy?
18:32:13 * Ysjoelfir explodes
18:33:12 * steve30000 passes Ysjoelfir some chinesium
18:34:37 <watcher> Ysjoelfir I only can advice you to take the company phone and call the company now and ask what the comma in the partname means. Maybe also ask you a dump of all datasheets that they write until today.
18:39:38 <rust7> internet says the comma number is the type of packaging. reel, or so...
18:40:08 <watcher> Hello rust7
18:40:15 <rust7> hey!
18:41:30 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I just found out, one is 5 inch reel, one is 11 inch reel. thanks
18:42:00 <rust7> no 7"?
18:42:18 <Ysjoelfir> doesn't look like it
18:43:11 <rust7> booo! then never use nexperia again
18:44:09 <K> reel2reel
18:44:12 <rust7> Ok, I should go brrrrm brrrm
18:44:37 <rust7> have an enjoy etc.
18:45:03 <K> no u.
18:45:09 <watcher> I also need to go will back in 30 to 45 minutes
18:45:21 * Ysjoelfir offers enjoys for everyone
18:45:31 <Ysjoelfir> wait, that sounded very wrong
18:46:19 <rust7> that is why it feels right
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19:27:48 <Ysjoelfir> Did I mention it yesterday? We have a trans LED Panel. It was born as a front display but after a software update it now thinks its a side display. nice.
19:27:55 <Ysjoelfir> probably a Gen-Z display
19:31:04 <K> it is orientation-fluid
19:31:15 <steve30000> hehe
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19:33:40 <watcher> Hello i'am back
19:34:25 <K> hello back, i am k.
19:34:46 <watcher> I will be here for the usual time
19:37:51 <K> yes.
20:01:12 Quit: watcher ([email protected]) Quit: We be chillin' - IceChat style
20:30:40 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/NH920FK.png
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20:38:09 <steve30000> eh oh
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21:04:51 * Ysjoelfir switches the TV in steve30000 's belly on
21:07:49 * steve30000 passes Ysjoelfir some tubby toast
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21:21:05 * steve30000 needs coffee
21:22:14 * HarryMarkle #EEVBlog calls butler
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21:29:56 <steve30000> "Your feed in tariff payment will be paid by 1st December 2022 for the electricity you generated between 7th Sept 2022 and 12th Dec 2022".
21:30:01 <steve30000> This just came today
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22:00:54 <jaymax> UK lives in the past
22:16:53 <DogWomble> australia is in the future
22:25:49 <K> does australia exist?
22:28:16 <T3sl4> aus is fine, but what the fuck is a new zealand
22:28:34 <DogWomble> and where the fuck is old zealand?
22:28:46 <Ampera> PENIS
22:29:25 <DogWomble> no, old zealand is not on my penis
22:30:29 <K> how about inside?
22:30:47 <DogWomble> nah, that's Pen Island
22:31:15 <Ampera> good morning
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22:38:17 <steve30000> just trying my modem in GSM mode
22:39:14 <steve30000> mmm, 410ms ping
22:39:28 <steve30000> i think i'll change back to 3g
22:40:09 <K> isn't 3g being phased out in uk too?
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22:49:32 <Kuschelpony> good day
22:52:00 <K> helloo
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22:53:52 <Nothing\> heyo
22:53:57 <Ampera> CORNED BEEF
22:54:09 <Nothing\> dammit Ampera first thing you do is make me hungry
22:54:24 <Nothing\> also the only corned beef i have access to is in a can so that just makes it even more cruel to bring up
22:54:37 <Ampera> that's not real corned beef
22:54:43 <Ampera> I mean, it is, but it's a different real corned beef
22:54:48 <Nothing\> that's what makes bringing it up so cruel!
22:54:50 <Nothing\> ol
22:54:57 <Ampera> hop the border and get some
22:55:03 <Nothing\> i think i've had real corned beef. Is that like a brisket?
22:55:05 <Ampera> every store in the area here sells it cheap around st. patrick's day
22:55:24 <Nothing\> oh yeah it's thta time of year isn't it
22:55:25 <Ampera> It's a brisket that's been sort of salted and almost pickled
22:55:35 <Ampera> patty's day is friday next week
22:55:37 <Nothing\> salted? you mean even more?
22:55:44 <Nothing\> oh wow i didn't know that
22:55:51 <Nothing\> i thought it was in like 2 or 3 weeks
22:55:51 <Ampera> idk, I've never had brisket besides corned beef
22:56:05 <Nothing\> i've had brisket and it was way too salty for my taste
22:56:07 <Ampera> probably gonna raid the stores for a couple of them.
22:56:20 <Nothing\> i don't like a lot of spices, but i don't usually mind salt. But this stuff was drowning in it.
22:56:21 <Ampera> Corned beef is quite salty, but the taste is just legendary
22:56:33 <Ampera> Typically corned beef is cooked with pickling spices
22:56:33 <Nothing\> it was very tender though
22:56:36 <Nothing\> slow cooked
22:56:37 <Ampera> mustard and things
22:56:45 <Ampera> Did it fall apart in strings?
22:56:49 <Ampera> with a lot of liquid
22:56:49 <Nothing\> sure did
22:56:52 <Nothing\> yup
22:56:56 <Ampera> yeah that's corned beef
22:57:09 <Nothing\> ah well... that's a shame i wasn't a fan
22:57:10 <Ampera> salt + spices (optional) + brisket + slow cooked
22:57:18 <Nothing\> yeah basically still red
22:57:22 <Nothing\> but cooked prope
22:57:23 <Nothing\> r
22:57:31 <Ampera> mashed potatoes are a good idea to absorb the salt
22:57:35 <Ampera> but I can easily eat corned beef just as it is
22:57:54 <Nothing\> hey that's a good idea. I didn't think of using sides to absorb excess spices from the main
22:58:09 <Nothing\> one problem i have with north american cuisine is everything is killed with spices
22:58:11 <Nothing\> to death!
22:58:19 <Ampera> everything?
22:58:27 <Nothing\> there's no subtlty
22:58:31 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
22:58:31 <Nothing\> Ampera, in general
22:58:53 <Nothing\> i should say, american takes on non-american meals
22:58:58 <Nothing\> they drown it in spices
22:59:34 * Ampera has tea
22:59:40 <Ampera> it's barley tea
23:00:17 <Nothing\> especially garlic. Man I go to this pizza chain here to buy what's basically these big bread stuffed with cheese. Which are great. But they come literally dripping with garlic butter AND topped with a ridiculous amount of garlic salt
23:00:27 Nick: steve30000000 is now known as steve30
23:00:27 <Ampera> sounds good
23:00:30 <Nothing\> i mean is one or the other not good enough? just use the damn garlic butter
23:00:35 <Ampera> more garlic
23:00:39 <Ampera> maximize the garlic
23:00:39 <Nothing\> Ampera, it is when they get the garlic salt just right
23:00:45 <Nothing\> nah, too much for me
23:00:55 <Nothing\> heya stevey how ya doing bud?
23:01:10 <Ampera> one of the best things I ever had was piri piri poutine (and piri piri chicken) in montreal
23:01:15 <steve30> just tired
23:01:26 <Nothing\> steve30, you need some coffee in you
23:01:29 <Nothing\> sounds like
23:01:33 <Ampera> I actually hadn't had poutine before I went to canoodlia. It exists down here, but nobody does it right
23:01:51 <Nothing\> Ampera, is piri piri like a local restaurant or a variation on poutine?
23:02:02 <Ampera> It's a flavor/spice profile
23:02:11 <Ampera> sorta tangy and spicy
23:02:20 <Ampera> it doesn't exist in any form down here that I'm aware of
23:02:21 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah they even sell it at kfc here. Which you'd think fast food poutine wouldn't be great, but with KFC gravy and fries it's even better, almost.
23:02:35 <Ampera> Fast food poutine doesn't happen here
23:02:47 <Ampera> idk why, it's great
23:03:04 <Ampera> whenever places around here do poutine, they typically use clear gravy and mozzarella cheese
23:03:06 <Nothing\> though admittedly I've never had a proper poutine. I must some time. But I don't think I've ever seen it at a restaurant. And I don't eat out anymore. It's too expensive and I've become too agoraphobic
23:03:15 <Ampera> which just makes a thick, watery, uncomfortable mess
23:03:23 <Nothing\> i literally only leave the house for the methadone clinic now
23:03:33 <Nothing\> once a week for an hour, that's it
23:03:45 <Nothing\> maybe twice if i have to go to the dispensary
23:04:08 <Ampera> I apparently missed a trick in Montreal, I didn't go to La Banquise, which is apparently the place to go for poutine in montreal
23:04:11 <Nothing\> but i try to avoid it because i'm usually in physical agony any time i go out anyways thanks to these stupid bowel pains i still have
23:04:33 <Nothing\> i'm pretty certain they're from my clonazepam now. After dealing with them for the better part of a year and a half
23:04:39 <Nothing\> daily
23:04:51 <Ampera> I'm wanting to go to tronno at some point, but the drive is gonna suck bad, and it kinda feels like it'd just be NYC but canada
23:04:54 <T3sl4> steve30: https://www.reddit.com/r/cats/comments/11maxsj/never_shared_my_kitten_saffrone_here_shes_6/
23:04:55 <EEVBot> [reddit] Never shared my kitten Saffrone here, she’s 6 months old now ('Cat Picture' flair) (https://i.redd.it/6s6h2vf3zmma1.jpg) to r/cats | 15599 points (98.0%) | 208 comments | Posted by Growle | Created at 2023-03-08 - 16:53:03CST
23:05:02 * T3sl4 pets the Nothing\
23:05:06 <Ampera> I WANNA PETTA DA CAT
23:05:10 <Ampera> SCREAMCAT
23:05:15 <Ampera> EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
23:05:25 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/NH920FK.png
23:05:28 <Nothing\> my brother just put his cat down 2 days ago :(
23:05:33 <Nothing\> i never knew her but i still cried
23:05:36 <T3sl4> aww rip
23:05:41 <steve30> aww
23:05:45 <Nothing\> for her, for him, despite our differences
23:05:47 <Ampera> T3sl4, I saw, and I am not happy to see that again
23:06:03 <Ampera> getting fucked by a teletubby is a nightmare event, not a fantasy
23:06:15 <Nothing\> i suggested taking a lock of fur but i guess she was too matted so he's going to try and get a paw print on a card like he did with his last cat
23:06:22 <Nothing\> which he just put down 2 years ago, the poor guy
23:06:26 * T3sl4 blurples Ampera
23:06:34 <Nothing\> and he put down another cat maybe 4 or 5 years ago
23:06:47 <Nothing\> he keeps adopting older cats, he's not doing anything wrong here lol
23:06:50 <Nothing\> just to be clear
23:07:38 <Nothing\> i think this one was 12 or 13 and just in such bad health she wasn't even mobile enough to use the litter box so he was constantly cleaning up after her. And being as depressed as he was, he wasn't always thorough about it.
23:08:36 <Nothing\> it's funny too because when my mum mentioned that to me, I had JUST read in an article at random about how not using the litter box is a serious warning sign of health issues in cats. Which I didn't think of.
23:08:50 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Quit: Ex-Chat
23:09:23 <Nothing\> I've had cats almost my entire life but I've been blessed to have them all be healthy. The 3 I grew up with, 2 had to be given away when my mum lost the house and my brother took the 3rd to live with him to the ripe old age of 16.
23:09:37 <Nothing\> he only died because he caught something from an outdoor cat that lived with them
23:09:49 <Nothing\> he was a hell of a cat, sylvester
23:10:01 <Nothing\> had the same coloring, too
23:10:27 <Nothing\> my brother took his death really hard. That was our kitty we got when i was only 4
23:10:40 * steve30 curls up on T3sl4's keyboard
23:10:51 * T3sl4 pets the steve30
23:11:16 <Nothing\> then his other cat, patrick had the exact same coloring and behavior/mannerisms of sylvester, so he took him to be his reincarnation. I think literally.
23:11:41 <Nothing\> yeah, things like this make you wanna nuzzle your own kitties extra hard
23:11:48 Join: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
23:12:03 * electrohead waves and things
23:12:23 <Nothing\> except my kitties have a bubble and get smothered too easily. My one doesn't even like me sitting next to her while she sleeps. She'll get up and move every time.
23:12:49 <Nothing\> electrohead, at what frequency are you waving?
23:12:55 <Nothing\> heyyyyyyy
23:12:58 <Nothing\> that gives me an idea
23:13:07 <Nothing\> i'm gonna go back and watch old videos of the queen waving
23:13:33 <Nothing\> and do my own visual analysis to discover the frequency of queen waves
23:13:48 <Nothing\> then write a whole paper on it and submit it to a physics journal
23:14:13 <Nothing\> actually i should do the same on squirrels. They become very wave-like at high velocities.
23:14:39 <Nothing\> you can actually measure their wave length on a snowy fence if one's been running on it, i've found
23:14:59 <Nothing\> the minima produce a depression in the snow
23:15:06 <Nothing\> :P
23:15:22 <Ampera> I'm gonna eat ass and chew bubble gum
23:15:24 <Ampera> and I'm all outta ass
23:15:28 <Nothing\> haha
23:15:33 <Nothing\> that's a good one
23:15:52 <Nothing\> i thought i was the only one who randomly mixed up sayings and stuff in their head
23:16:29 <Ampera> Mixed metaphors are like mixed nuts. Hard and greasy.
23:16:51 <Nothing\> like for some reason i'm constantly (involuntarily) trying to sing the juicy fruit song in my head with every word completely out of order, no word shall appear in the same spot, or next to the same word as it does in the original song, but it must contain all of the words and follow the rhythm
23:17:01 <Nothing\> Ampera, i can't eat nuts
23:17:05 <Nothing\> not enough teeth
23:17:13 <Nothing\> can't chew nuts with 2 functional molars
23:17:19 <Ampera> I can't eat ass
23:17:21 <Ampera> not enough ass
23:17:25 <Nothing\> well, intact. I guess the rest are sort of functional.
23:17:31 <Nothing\> Ampera, you're just not flexible enough
23:17:44 <Nothing\> you need to harness your inner cat
23:17:58 <Ampera> big brain move isn't suck your own dick, it's going all the way around and eating your own ass
23:18:03 <Nothing\> lol you know my one cat used to suckle on herself when she was a kitten if you got her real relaxed.
23:18:18 <Nothing\> it was really weird. Like she was using her own nipple as a pacifier.
23:18:40 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol or the big-dick move of screwing yourself
23:18:43 <Nothing\> literally
23:19:04 <Ampera> big dick move of fucking your own cunt
23:19:25 <Nothing\> ol that reminds me of one of those gonzo porn clips all over the internet that i saw where this dude stuck both of his nuts up a woman's ass.
23:19:44 <Nothing\> I don't know how on earth he got pleasure from that and not searing pain. God forbid she gets spooked and tenses up.
23:19:58 <Nothing\> or you get stuck
23:19:59 <Ampera> sounds like how I want to get castrated
23:20:15 <Nothing\> haha yeah use the sphincter like an elastic band
23:20:23 <Nothing\> great minds think alike
23:21:12 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i've been talking to chatgpt a lot lately. Like actually talking, not just poking around to see what it can do as DAN (Do Anything NOW)
23:21:32 <Nothing\> which i guess is the latest "hack" that forces it outside of its parameters. Made me yawn.
23:22:06 <Nothing\> I had more fun discussing the implications of 2 dimensional time on how the universe would work
23:23:11 <Nothing\> or how The Flash would inevitably die very quickly because of his super fast metabolism which he couldn't physically consume enough Calories to sustain, and would cause extensive metabolic damage (excitotoxicity, oxidative stress) to his brain and body.
23:24:09 <Nothing\> or I found it can write snippets of code in an instant if you just ask
23:24:31 <Nothing\> that's been very nifty. Helped me solve some math problems that would have otherwise taken weeks, or months to work out.
23:25:09 <Nothing\> it's really good as a resource. Especially for replacing google as a quick reference.
23:25:34 <Nothing\> i need just ask and it gives me more relevant information than anything on google ever could. ANd without having to read an entire article first.
23:27:16 <Nothing\> like my phone's been doing this really infuriating thing where when i go to hang up, instead it thinks i'm trying to place a conference call, so it goes back to the key pad, appearing as though I'd hung up. But the call is still connected (such as after leaving a voicemail and it's still recording). So I go on talking about this and that, under the assumption the call was hung up, only to hear shit from the voicema
23:27:16 <Nothing\> minutes later giving me instructions on how to save or delete my message.
23:27:58 <Nothing\> but of course because the phone thinks i'm trying to make a conference call, it's got a fresh keypad up ready to make ANOTHER phone call, and with absolutely no (obvious) way to disconnect the original call.
23:28:29 <Nothing\> I think I read the power button can do that. But half of the information I looked up was years old and pertained to obsolete phones.
23:28:52 <Nothing\> finally i noticed the "add call" button which happens to be right next to the "disconnect" button
23:29:15 <Nothing\> so if you're just 1/8in off from your tap, you've got problems on your hands.
23:29:44 <Nothing\> ah anxiety meds kicking in. Haven't had relief like this in weeks
23:29:56 * Nothing\ wallows
23:32:20 <Nothing\> so I thought of a good use for my microwave oven transformers, or one of them anyways.
23:33:14 <Kuschelpony> for a slightly different queation:
23:33:34 <Kuschelpony> do you have suggestions for a boost or flyback converter somewhat similar to the LT1170 ?
23:33:41 <Kuschelpony> https://www.analog.com/en/products/lt1170.html
23:33:41 <EEVBot> [url] LT1170 Datasheet and Product Info | Analog Devices | www.analog.com
23:33:45 <Nothing\> I saw a video of electroboom playing with one (without a single safety warning, of course) and in the course of beating the piss out of the thing with a hammer, he managed to seperate the laminated iron plates. So when he ran AC through it, the whole thing would buzz at that frequency. I was thinking that'd make a cool "speaker"
23:33:56 <Kuschelpony> has to convert 5V USB to 20V accumulator pack
23:34:22 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, wish I could help Kuschelpony but unfortunately my experience is lacking in this matter. Sorry, bud.
23:34:32 <Kuschelpony> no worries
23:35:09 <Nothing\> i've been learning about high power, solid state microwave transmitters lately.
23:36:35 <Nothing\> I found a demonstration at a trade show from some swiss company showing off a solid state microwave oven. Although it was only 200 or 250 watts lol. But it sounds like they use a low power solid state method, and then run that through an amplifier.
23:37:43 <Nothing\> for all the roundaboutness of it though, it really didn't seem worth it. Especially for a microwave with 1/5-1/6 the power output of my microwave, which probably costs 10x as a much and is probably not terribly efficient.
23:38:25 <Nothing\> though i could be wrong about the latter. The guy demonstrating it did say that it heated food more evenly but I don't see what solid state has to do with that. Maybe a different radiation pattern out of the antenna?
23:39:07 <Nothing\> heh when I was in prison in toronto, I was actually in with a guy who made waveguides for a company which made industrial microwave ovens.
23:40:45 <Nothing\> it was funny because everyone initially asked me about meself, you know, vetting the new guy. And I explained I work with electronics and they were all skeptical, but took it with a grain a saltf
23:41:25 <Nothing\> then this guy comes along and they see me spending 2-3 hours talking RF with him. Then I break out the Russian I know and they stopped questioning what I said after that.
23:43:15 <Nothing\> but i assume for solid state rf they just use tunnel/gunn diodes with an amp
23:43:37 <Nothing\> or maybe a lambda diode. Which I just remembered I've been meaning to make one of those for some years now
23:43:56 <Nothing\> i really should, if i can dig up my p channel jfets. Or even remember what they were called.
23:44:34 <Nothing\> oh Ampera i'm considering asking my doc about going on test today
23:44:47 <Ampera> on wha
23:44:54 <Nothing\> osterone
23:45:01 <Ampera> why would you want to do that
23:46:06 <Nothing\> because I'm crippling depresed, have no energy at all, my penis goes inside of me on a regular basis, i'm tired of peeing on my balls, and most of all, i'm unbearably irritable and a misery to be around. Low testerone is implicated in all of these things.
23:46:25 <Nothing\> But I agree. I really wish there was a way to do it without taking myself out of this nice, asexual phase i'm in.
23:46:30 <Nothing\> i LOVE not thinking about sex
23:46:32 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
23:46:46 <Nothing\> i spend maybe 5 minutes a month when I fap and that's it
23:46:58 <Nothing\> and i only fap for utilitarian purposes. To keep everything cleared out and healthy.
23:47:04 <Ampera> one of the best parts about taking the drugs I take is a far reduced libido
23:47:15 <Nothing\> no epidydimitis or prostitis
23:47:28 <Nothing\> oh i agree
23:47:43 <Nothing\> that's by far been the best part about opioids destroying my testosterone production
23:47:48 <Ampera> T never helped with my depression, it just made me anxious and my high sex drive made me hate my situation even more
23:47:56 <Nothing\> but the way I see it. If it really becomes an issue, I can always stop taking it again.
23:48:09 <Ampera> but ymmv
23:48:25 <Ampera> I still have a sex drive, it's sorta kinda just different now, and I don't pee on my balls :P
23:48:29 <Nothing\> Ampera, right but your sex drive in general causes you anxiety an account of your confusion/whatever you wanna call it
23:48:42 <Ampera> not really
23:48:47 <Ampera> it's more nuanced than that
23:48:57 <Nothing\> i could see having sexual urges to be distressing. IN the same light as a gay man who hasn't yet figured himself out.
23:49:17 <Ampera> huh?
23:49:19 <Nothing\> Ampera, oh it always is. Forgive me if I seemed to be trivializing it.
23:49:43 <Ampera> I wouldn't describe my self as just being a gay man who hasn't figured himself out
23:50:17 <Nothing\> Ampera, like how a closetted gay would feel anxiety if he were aroused because it's probably from a source he doesn't want it to do from, or doesn't understand why it's coming from there. In short, he's distressed by the confusion and so on.
23:50:29 <Ampera> pff, I wish I was just gay
23:50:32 <Ampera> that would make this shit so much easier
23:50:33 <Nothing\> i just thought maybe (just speculating mind you) it could have been the same with you.
23:50:58 <Nothing\> oh i just use that as an analogy but i'm talking really anyone with socially taboo sexual... "deviances"-
23:51:03 <Nothing\> as they call them
23:51:16 <Ampera> if I knew for sure I could, I'd drop every single dollar to my name on being just gay.
23:51:20 <Nothing\> and when did deviation become a bad thing btw?
23:51:30 <Nothing\> i thought that's what made us all special
23:51:36 <Ampera> did I say it was?
23:51:47 <Nothing\> never
23:51:53 <Nothing\> sorry
23:52:08 * jaymax sketches a DeviancesArt for Nothing\
23:52:40 <Nothing\> bear in mind i'm completely in the dark here. Though i've had lots of queer friends (is that the right umbrella term?) I still can't understand it unless i've been through it.
23:52:44 <Nothing\> even secondhand.
23:52:53 <Ampera> To describe how I feel or exactly how my feelings work is impossible. I have what I think is a good understanding of them, but I have plenty of doubts, and my confidence comes in swings.
23:53:00 <Nothing\> jaymax, that site seemed to fade into obscurity awful sudden,ly didn't it?
23:53:03 <Ampera> queer is a dumb term, but all terms are dumb
23:53:09 <jaymax> ^
23:53:27 <Ampera> there's plenty of violent debate to be had about at what point one actually is "transgender"
23:53:29 <Nothing\> Ampera, well it sounds like you've definitely made some progress since I met you.
23:53:35 <Ampera> or if you "need GD" to be trans
23:54:16 <Nothing\> Ampera, what's it matter? labels are trivial.
23:54:17 <Ampera> and don't forget the soon to be canceled term bisexual :)
23:54:31 <Nothing\> "if you label me, you negate me" Kierkegaard
23:54:34 <jaymax> Well, transvestism existed for thousands of years. Seems to work out OK.
23:54:53 <Ampera> jaymax, it's all a soup of connotations.
23:54:56 <Nothing\> although that quote is from wayne's world so it may not be factual. But it's still a good one.
23:54:57 <Ampera> I just wanna live my life, man
23:55:05 <Nothing\> Ampera, tell me about it
23:55:09 <Nothing\> that's why i'm agoraphobic
23:55:22 <Nothing\> i want to hide away from the world and the issues that come with it
23:55:27 <Nothing\> and just live my own life in peace
23:55:29 <jaymax> Nothing\: You're afraid of Al Gore too?
23:55:34 <Ampera> None of what I do is about being gay or somehow finding some alphabet soup identity. At this point I don't even think I /have/ an identity.
23:55:42 <Nothing\> with JUST enough to get by and nothing more.
23:55:47 <Nothing\> i don't need to be rich
23:56:02 <Nothing\> jaymax, more than words can convey
23:56:13 <Ampera> In the end, it's feelings and emotions that make me feel incapable of expressing sexuality as a man.
23:56:23 <Nothing\> jaymax, he will be the pregenitor of the robot uprising
23:56:44 <jaymax> Ampera: I've been there. I blame Pink. Or whatever her real name is.
23:56:57 <Nothing\> Ampera, i'm sure language fails you as well. Like, there isn't proper language to articulate what you feel, what you're going through, how you identify etc
23:57:24 <jaymax> The male gaze is the most retarted thing that fuicking exists in society.
23:57:53 <Ampera> I think the main thing that HRT has done is cool down how much my natural hormones impact that. All the desires are still there, but I don't feel like my body is pulling me further away from them.
23:58:29 <Ampera> The problem is this is a transient state, and even if I feel alright now, I have to still reckon with actually changing my entire life and persona just to match the way I feel in some culturally derived mimicking act.
23:58:57 <jaymax> Militaries had that same idea about saltpetre, and prisons with anti-depressants - I was fascinated by that a couple decades ago.
23:59:41 <Ampera> It's all back to the original question of what the difference is between being a man or a woman. The distinction has slowly become more and more meaningless to me.
23:59:59 <jaymax> Ampera: because it *is* meaningless.