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01:30:43 <jaymax> https://files.maxuel.compy.ca:5281/upload/BnD5pv3CdRnfYsis/n81wvvvZTgCEQGJIt3jUmg.jpg
01:30:57 <jaymax> Hey there beef shawarma's <3
01:35:38 <rust7> hey there... you
01:38:54 <K> CHIHUAHUA!
01:40:02 <jaymax> Konichihuahua
01:48:47 <rust7> hm, and after just a month, I figured out where the springs are supposed to go, on this little rc thing
01:49:15 <rust7> I think I have to try to etch them, to get them softer
02:12:46 <MrMobodies> Hello I just found this
02:12:47 <MrMobodies> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10777633/OnlyFans-model-Mensa-member-claims-gives-dates-IQ-test.html
02:12:49 <EEVBot> [url] OnlyFans model and Mensa member claims she gives dates an IQ test | Daily Mail Online | www.dailymail.co.uk
02:13:01 <MrMobodies> oh what is onlyfans
02:13:06 <MrMobodies> anyway leading to this artice
02:13:14 <MrMobodies> https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/model-extremely-high-iq-says-24290603
02:13:15 <EEVBot> [url] Model with extremely high IQ says men find her intelligence 'intimidating' - Mirror Online | www.mirror.co.uk
02:13:39 <MrMobodies> I have known people who done well and actively boast about their "IQ" level
02:14:00 <MrMobodies> and one of the who was married was very nasty and manipulative
02:14:08 <MrMobodies> and didn't pay any of their share
02:14:31 <MrMobodies> shame some people find life very easy and ideal
02:14:37 <MrMobodies> and yet they have to act like that
02:14:49 <MrMobodies> https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article24291563.ece/ALTERNATES/n310p/0_PAY-OnlyFans-model-and-MENSA-member-with-EXTREMELY-HIGH-IQ-says-men-find-her-intelligence-intimidating.jpg
02:15:07 <MrMobodies> people often criticise me from my plain dress sense
02:15:18 <MrMobodies> but it comes to people like that it seems they are an exception
02:15:32 <MrMobodies> what do you think of her iq level?
02:16:18 <MrMobodies> I know a few people and a friend who actualy scored 160 IQ in a history test, who do very well and don't need to do any of that or boast.
02:17:13 <MrMobodies> This lad i knew at 18 happened to like history, you see and his dad was a professor in history and the mum and English teacher both from Glasgow
02:19:19 <MrMobodies> putting looks aside as in the articke, if anyone boasts about their IQ level to me to say they are better I'd have a right go at them. Yes, they may very well do at certain things and I'd want to hear more than just a figure like their experience in their chosen fiekd.
02:20:03 <MrMobodies> my sister's husband who boasted about his didn't really have anything to show for it
02:23:19 <coppice> MrMobodies is it just a coincidence that every woman who says men find her intimidating is really unpleasant to be around?
02:23:23 <MrMobodies> Oh yes I remember Thundef00t busted this person who had a so called Mensa and high IQ level
02:23:47 <MrMobodies> it was about the effects on the body of going 600mph in a shuttle into space
02:25:46 <MrMobodies> aaah I see, that is why she went onto that show
02:26:21 <MrMobodies> looking for partner under the illusion of a number
02:26:29 <MrMobodies> that was given to her
02:26:53 <MrMobodies> you'd think she help others who are low in thought or in area's they'd like to improve
02:27:39 <MrMobodies> I have more respect for that number if they try to help others than just help themselves
02:28:15 <MrMobodies> at a special needs school, I was taken out of a class, there is lady from the government who was sent to test us
02:28:28 <MrMobodies> she was asking me to hold up my fingers to do patterns with them
02:28:40 <MrMobodies> and every small mistake a make, which random
02:28:54 <MrMobodies> "oh you got that wrong with you this wrong etc,,, low iq, this that."
02:29:06 <MrMobodies> when I got back to the class I warned the others not to waste their time
02:29:13 <MrMobodies> one went came back and confirmed it
02:29:26 <MrMobodies> the third person said to the teacher, do you think we are that stupid.
02:30:01 <MrMobodies> I had been prompted to do them in the past and I refused after that.
02:32:14 <MrMobodies> my case worker in 2020, during the lockdown told me to do one on this website, I refused, I reminded her that my dad's friend who runs his own company in access control done very well and continues to do so, he was told after completing one that when he was 17 that only be good for clay making and that was it.
02:32:47 <MrMobodies> sorry if I am skeptical
02:34:24 <rc_rc> hmm, iq test?
02:34:32 <MrMobodies> Joke: "You feel intimidated because I have a higher IQ level than you" answer "Well what are you doing to help?"
02:34:51 <MrMobodies> "If you are not helping bugger off"
02:34:57 <MrMobodies> joke sorry
02:35:28 <rc_rc> I think you can just do them a lot. you will figure out what you need to answer.
02:35:30 <MrMobodies> hopefully with their level of things they'd know after that to leave you alone
02:35:39 <rc_rc> not that it really means very much
02:36:18 <MrMobodies> the lad i knew at this boarding school the teacher told me he earned his score in history and he'd talk a lot about history
02:36:28 <MrMobodies> now I think that was earn't?
02:36:47 <MrMobodies> he was a nice lad too, he'd help anybody
02:36:58 <rc_rc> I did not know you could do an iq test in history, lol
02:36:59 <MrMobodies> he wouldn't do an IQ test on them and exclude
02:37:01 <MrMobodies> them
02:37:21 <MrMobodies> that's what i was told and I surprised he was there
02:37:46 <MrMobodies> they just stopped doing higher tier when he came and the teachers said to him he was on his own if he wanted to continue.
02:38:02 <MrMobodies> they gave him the test papers and he passed
02:38:13 <MrMobodies> with difficulty and aggravation I shared a room with him
02:39:24 <MrMobodies> unfortunately they did not give him the help he needed, when he went to college there and he gave up his subjects and went onto ant depressents that nearly killed him
02:40:10 <MrMobodies> there use to be a specialist department at Derby University there, but after the tuiton feed Tony Blair brought in and other changes, they cut all that and the support
02:40:32 <MrMobodies> and then all the other universities followed
02:40:46 <MrMobodies> the support that was once there was disabled no longer available
02:41:14 <MrMobodies> and that IQ test they gave us was a year before all that change took place
02:41:46 <MrMobodies> I think attitudes may change if people wisened up and refused to take these tests or do them.
02:42:07 <MrMobodies> they can't label or sack everybody
02:45:36 <MrMobodies> oh yes my freezer is failing
02:45:45 <MrMobodies> it is an Samsung I300
02:45:53 <MrMobodies> silly me
02:46:00 <MrMobodies> Siemens IQ300
02:46:26 <MrMobodies> the new model seems to lack 2 litres of space despite being the same name
02:46:43 <MrMobodies> it is not cooling the food and the alarm goes off
02:46:56 <MrMobodies> to be fair that was brought in 2011 June
02:47:27 <MrMobodies> do you think about 12 years is okay for a freezer?
02:48:31 <MrMobodies> the fridge before that lasted about 12 years too, August 2006 to July 2018. My mum kept on overloading it and the door didn't shut properly
02:49:02 <MrMobodies> it was in the middle of a heatwave and I think that overheated and the gas made its way out
02:49:17 <rust7> sounds pretty normal these days. they are not like they used to
02:49:37 <MrMobodies> well the fridges and freeze we had before only lasted 2 to 3 years
02:49:45 <rust7> the fridge downstairs is from 1974, and still works fine
02:49:52 <MrMobodies> this was like in the 1990's they went really crapy
02:49:56 <MrMobodies> oooh lovelly
02:50:01 <MrMobodies> I like that 1974
02:50:37 <MrMobodies> I heard they welded them shut so well the gas don't escape easily
02:51:05 <rust7> I wonder if it is an electrolux, or maybe aeg. Not sure
02:51:12 <MrMobodies> that's what I was told by an air condition repairer
02:51:21 <MrMobodies> oh electrolux
02:51:29 <MrMobodies> and their dark green colours
02:51:36 <MrMobodies> for the egg boxes too
02:52:09 <rust7> this one has the extra stuff in a pale yellow-green, with white flowers , lol
02:52:29 <MrMobodies> pale colours that's what i mean
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02:52:35 <MrMobodies> as dark
02:52:44 <MrMobodies> I find them iconic like that
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02:54:37 <MrMobodies> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9807061/Couples-Electrolux-fridge-bought-49-believed-oldest-Britain.html
02:54:38 <EEVBot> [url] Couple's Electrolux fridge bought for £49 is believed to be oldest in Britain | Daily Mail Online | www.dailymail.co.uk
02:55:28 <MrMobodies> there use to be this trend, from high street shops in the 1990's were they'd give a fridge a 1 year warranty and it would break a couple of days after
02:56:05 <coppice> That was a damned expensive fridge.
02:56:26 <MrMobodies> in 2006 I chose the fridge this time in an Euronics center in Romford and that last the 12 years.
02:56:36 <MrMobodies> oh yes and heavy I suppose
02:56:54 <MrMobodies> £1800 in todays money
02:57:38 <MrMobodies> https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/07/20/17/45678845-9807061-image-a-12_1626799456542.jpg
02:57:48 <MrMobodies> what's thing under it, is that part of it?
02:57:59 <MrMobodies> like a heater of some sort
02:58:30 <MrMobodies> built in the 1930's
02:58:43 <coppice> Its separate. A lot of very old fridges were raised on short legs. I don't know why
02:59:35 <MrMobodies> that man who runs his access control company, early this year
02:59:42 <MrMobodies> everything started to break down in his kitcen
02:59:56 <MrMobodies> and they were barely 9 years old
03:00:04 <MrMobodies> except for the Quooker
03:00:07 <MrMobodies> tap
03:00:22 <MrMobodies> oh that was 2012 I think
03:00:28 <MrMobodies> 11 years
03:00:50 <MrMobodies> but his Siemens ovens, and cooker, industrial fridge
03:00:57 <MrMobodies> he saying all broke at the same time
03:01:12 <MrMobodies> but then they were electric so maybe they had a power surge
03:01:22 <MrMobodies> as well as a coincidence
03:01:46 <MrMobodies> just though of something
03:02:18 <MrMobodies> how do you measure an IQ of someone who intentionally plays dumb and stupid?
03:02:53 <MrMobodies> behind everybody's back they are very clever in how they get things if you happened to be spying on them.
03:03:11 <MrMobodies> or set other people up for trouble,
03:03:38 <MrMobodies> they fail all the tests
03:03:45 <rust7> if they score a perfect 0, I guess they have to be pretty smart
03:04:17 <MrMobodies> so it may not measure for everybody
03:04:20 <coppice> It can be fun to try to score zero on a multiple choice test
03:04:48 <MrMobodies> oh those
03:05:09 <MrMobodies> I remembered Pearson Vue use to run many of those tests
03:06:20 <MrMobodies> what surprised me though, 10 years ago the 16 year old school leavers who were shown a gas meter did not know what it was on the multi choice questions
03:07:02 <MrMobodies> and they did not know what live, neutral and earth was despite shown it on the diagram on the testing software
03:07:13 <MrMobodies> I asked, what have you learning at school
03:07:26 <MrMobodies> "aah mate they don't teach us anything"
03:08:04 <MrMobodies> "teacher was clueless, just given stuff to write down and they show us powerpoint presentation"
03:08:23 <MrMobodies> "in our exams we were told the questions were on the back and everybody passed"
03:08:31 <coppice> MrMobodies: even in the 60s I remember a survey of Australian rural kids, where many of them, even on cattle farms, didn't know that milk came from cows
03:08:36 <MrMobodies> in my time they were very strict
03:08:45 <MrMobodies> and the teachers knew they stuff
03:08:53 <MrMobodies> well not all but many
03:09:11 <MrMobodies> ooh interesting
03:09:19 <coppice> The quality of people who become teachers today is much poorer than a generation ago
03:10:14 <MrMobodies> maths teacher left 16+, they got this "Key skills" teacher in... I had a right go at her asking what she was doing there.
03:10:51 <MrMobodies> it was lower than the foundations, well in fact what you learn at primary school
03:11:28 <MrMobodies> they got the old mathsmatician back who was retired but volunteered as they couldn't find anyone good enough
03:12:00 <MrMobodies> I was in the library as I refused to go back, he came up, gave me a few questions
03:12:34 <MrMobodies> and said, "what you doing here, you're a gooden I want you back in the class"
03:12:59 <MrMobodies> the lady who was teaching it on that occasion was a backup teacher with no maths experience
03:13:32 <MrMobodies> she had happened to have a degree in geography and she said she was entitled
03:13:41 <MrMobodies> because of it
03:14:04 <MrMobodies> when she said I was going to fail that's when I refused to go back and got what help I could in the library
03:14:23 <MrMobodies> half of her class was falling asleep but she didn't seem to mind
03:14:45 <MrMobodies> also she was Spanish
03:15:03 <rust7> she figured they were on a siesta
03:15:09 <MrMobodies> but could speak very well English apart from maths
03:15:49 <MrMobodies> she one day broke her knee and needed a repaceent
03:15:59 <MrMobodies> the students and me enjoyed it when she was gone
03:16:35 <MrMobodies> they got that retired mathsmatician in. He use to teach in the late 70's to the early 1990's
03:16:48 <MrMobodies> and they get him back and now and a gain
03:16:55 <MrMobodies> he was called John Rose
03:17:08 <MrMobodies> kind of like that name
03:17:20 <MrMobodies> and he liked to do bird spotting
03:18:11 <MrMobodies> he was telling all the types of breeds of birds and the seasons where they'd migrate and he'd be expecting them to take pictures
03:18:50 <rust7> birds don't take pics?
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03:25:02 <MrMobodies> the connectors arrived for the amo
03:25:11 <MrMobodies> oh window stuck
03:25:24 <MrMobodies> no the retired mathsmatician took them
03:25:36 <MrMobodies> he'd study what breeds were going to migrate and where
03:25:52 <MrMobodies> and he'd go to place to see if they migrate and then take pictures
03:26:17 <MrMobodies> oooh I typed that in wrongly sorry about that
03:26:27 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/1rRzb51.jpg
03:26:42 <MrMobodies> a backup amp if the Peavey 600e fails during the disco
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03:26:50 <MrMobodies> it is the only stereo amp they got
03:26:56 <MrMobodies> they got these mono bass stuff
03:27:01 <MrMobodies> and a crappy pod thing
03:27:07 <MrMobodies> that cost of a fortunate
03:27:20 <MrMobodies> but it is alright though for bingo
03:27:34 <MrMobodies> and very convenient for that purpose in getting it in and out quickly
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03:28:25 <MrMobodies> I like the way they twisted the strands
03:28:26 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/UTPHhci.jpg
03:28:55 <rust7> hmm, twisted to the right, that is weird
03:29:06 <MrMobodies> oh
03:29:22 <MrMobodies> oh yes I didn't notice
03:29:32 <MrMobodies> I'd got to go to pick up something i
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03:52:39 <MrMobodies> I just got back
03:52:53 <MrMobodies> someone at the pub gave me this Lenovo laptop to look at
03:53:07 <MrMobodies> they said power jack faulty can I have a look okay
03:53:30 <MrMobodies> but the person who gave it to them to give to me didn't think I needed the power supply... gosh
03:53:40 <MrMobodies> I said I do need to check it is not that as well
03:53:59 <MrMobodies> anyway... to my surprise, no input rating
03:54:04 <MrMobodies> no model number
03:54:07 <MrMobodies> just Lenovo
03:54:33 <MrMobodies> as went to their house and they gave me a 12v 1a DC power supply with a similar jack... the stupidity
03:54:46 <MrMobodies> then they tell me the one that came with the laptop broke
03:55:18 <MrMobodies> I ask do they still have it, whilst i do have many universal ones with tips I don't want to guess and over voltage it
03:55:19 <rust7> is it the round large old lenovo plug, or?
03:55:31 <MrMobodies> Ismall
03:55:38 <rust7> oh. hmm
03:55:42 <Kuschelpony> good day
03:55:48 <rust7> hey-o
03:57:46 <Kuschelpony> as i am still not on the forum... please let me give here a comment
03:58:15 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/dy422Pw
03:58:16 <EEVBot> [url] Imgur: The magic of the Internet | imgur.com
03:58:16 <Kuschelpony> specifically about the thread asking about what a "dark background" is
03:58:35 <MrMobodies> No model number or input rating
03:59:00 <MrMobodies> this is the first time I have come across a laptop with no info
03:59:03 <Kuschelpony> this term does have an established meaning in the professional audio community
03:59:08 <MrMobodies> very stupid I think
03:59:19 <MrMobodies> I mean the laptop maker Lenovo for not labelling stuff up
03:59:27 <MrMobodies> aaah sorry
03:59:39 <Kuschelpony> undertood :)
03:59:41 <MrMobodies> Kuschelpony I got side tracked
03:59:47 <Kuschelpony> no worries
04:00:01 <rust7> a dark background in audio... ok
04:00:16 <MrMobodies> ooh did I offend you Kuschelpony?
04:00:44 <Kuschelpony> the Term "dark background" means when an system has not only low noise (low hiss) but also low intermodulation and crossover distortion that appears as more noise
04:00:49 <MrMobodies> I am trying to understand what Audiofoolery is and i was struggling and i tend to get frustrated so sorry if I sounded negative
04:00:57 <Kuschelpony> no you dont offend me in any way, i appreciate your critical thinking
04:01:03 <MrMobodies> I mean to the person buying the stuff
04:01:13 <rust7> so, it pretty much means quiet?
04:01:16 <MrMobodies> aaaah interesting
04:01:19 <Kuschelpony> i am myself Audiophile and fighting myself against Audiophoolery
04:01:33 <MrMobodies> talking of which I have backup amp for the disco if the Peavey 600e fails
04:01:33 <Kuschelpony> yes, !quiet" but in a more specific sense
04:02:01 <MrMobodies> it is a Technics SU707 less powerful but I notice the harmonic noise lower than the Peavey
04:02:20 <MrMobodies> I'll see if I can find it
04:02:24 <Kuschelpony> Audiofoolery is a psychological issue
04:03:25 <Kuschelpony> its a kind of when people are looking for attention, for someone who cares about them, and they pay insane amounts of money to "solutions" that they feel have been made by a person caring about their needs instead of a "cold" cheap mass produced device
04:04:30 <Kuschelpony> and its mostly happening in Audio becasue thats where people most easy can be suggested into thinking something sounds better when some crazy things are done, or they even actually love the "euphonic" distortion created
04:05:55 <Kuschelpony> btw: there is a similarity with cineasts, there is s surprisingly large amount of people who ask for movies to be displayed with 24 frames per second, to get the stuttering effect from a real movie, becasue the smooth 50 or 60 frames per second of video material looks too smooth to them
04:06:19 <Kuschelpony> im ex radio and TV service man, so i have seen all that in person when dealing with clients
04:10:29 <Kuschelpony> rust7 "quiet" yes, but its more a kind of "more contrast"
04:10:37 <coppice> Kuschelpony: its the same as musicians making exaggerated claims about the wonders of old instruments.
04:11:10 <Kuschelpony> coppice thats where i can not comment because i dont have experience, i know only the electronical side
04:12:51 <Kuschelpony> rust7, its specifically a kind of "contrast", like the instruments "shine out" clearly over a silent backgound - versus instruments can be heard over a background of hiss, noise, high order intermodulation products and DSP artifacts
04:23:14 <MrMobodies> hello sorry that was the door
04:23:21 <MrMobodies> I took the wrong bin out
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04:23:55 <MrMobodies> I found it
04:23:56 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/fh2elg3
04:23:57 <EEVBot> [url] Technics V707 vs Peavey 600E - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
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04:25:02 <MrMobodies> hum and noise 0.5mv
04:25:19 <MrMobodies> for the SU707
04:26:13 <MrMobodies> Peavey 600E Hum and noise -92db below 150w
04:28:16 <rust7> Kuschelpony yes, I think I get what you mean
04:29:15 <MrMobodies> so the audiofools? or obsessive want a nice clear background
04:29:26 <MrMobodies> and they believe every claim
04:29:38 <MrMobodies> that it will give them a result
04:30:04 <MrMobodies> talking of that about that
04:30:16 <MrMobodies> Rust don't you remember when I streamed some audio to you some months ago?
04:30:32 <MrMobodies> with the sound retrevial system
04:31:17 <MrMobodies> and I remembered something about the frame rate
04:31:29 <MrMobodies> I had a similar problem with my local cinema back in 2005
04:31:35 <MrMobodies> it wasn't frame rate
04:31:41 <MrMobodies> it was to do with the bulbs
04:32:04 <MrMobodies> the cinema was unique as many rooms were narrow but deep
04:32:22 <MrMobodies> and they had this manufacturer who design a bulb and they went bust
04:32:31 <rust7> yeah, I remember you playing things
04:32:39 <MrMobodies> so they were trying all these different bulbs and all I can see is flicker
04:32:42 <MrMobodies> and patches
04:32:48 <MrMobodies> oh yess yes
04:32:58 <MrMobodies> now I used some decent looking cables
04:33:14 <MrMobodies> Tech+link and monster nothing expensive
04:33:20 <rust7> oh, yes, you had that hum on that, right
04:33:21 <MrMobodies> and that sounded good
04:33:24 <MrMobodies> oh yes
04:33:30 <MrMobodies> that was a grounding noise
04:33:40 <MrMobodies> it happend when I connected something in front of the mixer
04:33:42 <rust7> yeah, it did sound like that
04:33:49 <MrMobodies> with it removed it did do it which was embarassing really
04:34:10 <MrMobodies> so I'll be doing that again with a fibre converter
04:34:18 <MrMobodies> to see if I can eliminate it
04:34:40 <MrMobodies> if I connect sound cards past the last mixer to emits that noise
04:34:45 <rust7> the trick with that kind of noises, is to play death metal, and turn it up to 13+. no one will notice
04:35:18 <MrMobodies> I see, they'd be death and therefor won't notice anything
04:35:49 <rust7> nah, it just sounds like that anyway
04:36:27 <MrMobodies> Kuschelpony, sorry about my negative view/trying to understand how audiofool perceives when it is the companies who made them like that
04:36:37 <MrMobodies> they are looking for perfection
04:36:42 <MrMobodies> and being taken advantage out of
04:36:43 <rust7> like a herd of concrete mixers galloping across the prairie
04:36:49 <MrMobodies> I think I understand it now
04:36:49 <Kuschelpony> > so the audiofools? or obsessive want a nice clear background
04:36:49 <Kuschelpony> and they believe every claim
04:36:58 <MrMobodies> obsessives
04:37:06 <Kuschelpony> no the Audiophiles and the audioe engineers want a "clear background"
04:37:15 <MrMobodies> but taken advantage out of when turned into audiofools
04:37:21 <Kuschelpony> and they understand the physics and electronics
04:37:36 <Kuschelpony> its the Audiophools who talk about "warm and organic" sound and buy the nonsense stuff
04:37:55 <MrMobodies> I never could understand that
04:38:03 <Kuschelpony> i do see a distinction between Audiophile (myelf included) and Audiophool
04:38:09 <MrMobodies> if they want warm, why don't like look at some valve amplifiers
04:38:15 <MrMobodies> thats a joke
04:38:20 <Kuschelpony> yeah, i dont understand it as well, just had hundreds of these people over ten years
04:38:36 <Kuschelpony> thats no joke, thats Euphonic distortion :)
04:39:00 <MrMobodies> so you are an audiophile, with expectations
04:39:15 <MrMobodies> good expectations on how things should sound
04:39:31 <Kuschelpony> i think yes, Audiophile as in i love to listen to undistorted music and build my own gear
04:39:32 <MrMobodies> and even point out background noises I can barely hear
04:39:59 <MrMobodies> I bet just before the capacitors need replacing you'd know
04:40:01 <coppice> I don't think most people who genuinely search for a high quality sound experience like to call themselves audiophiles any more
04:40:03 <MrMobodies> on the equipment
04:40:29 <rust7> but... I like my music with heaps of distorted instruments. but... tralala
04:41:13 <MrMobodies> for audiofools, putting hose tubes around bog standard cables to me has gone to a whole new lower level
04:41:17 <MrMobodies> which is why I opened that thread
04:41:27 <MrMobodies> and the organic sound stuff
04:41:30 <Kuschelpony> coppice, sure, this word has been strognly tainted
04:42:03 <MrMobodies> there are lots of audiophiles on youtube showing off their needles and records
04:42:11 <MrMobodies> my favourite one is Audiophill
04:42:28 <MrMobodies> and he uses different neelds, Goldring and some other ones
04:42:33 <Kuschelpony> i dont know much about Youtube as i do not really use it
04:42:58 <Kuschelpony> can often hear the MPEG artifacts of their overdone compression
04:43:16 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53wBnKy9HUs
04:43:17 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon Vinyl LP (Side 1) (UK A6/B5 Pressing) - Technics 1200G / AT ART9 | 19m 39s | Channel: AudioPhil | 176,146 views | 2020-06-10 - 17:20:40UTC
04:43:19 <MrMobodies> oh yes
04:43:28 <MrMobodies> I do hear them on low bitrate
04:43:35 <MrMobodies> especially with the sound retreival system
04:43:38 <Kuschelpony> unfortunately... many songs on Youtube (overcompressed from the original source) still sound better than lots of CDs mastered in the 90s and 2000s upto digital clipping
04:43:57 <MrMobodies> and the autotune thing?
04:44:08 <MrMobodies> that was discussed last year on certain remastered things
04:44:21 <Kuschelpony> im too old for this autotune
04:44:32 <MrMobodies> I thought some of them did sound strange
04:44:35 <MrMobodies> and put me off
04:44:41 <Kuschelpony> my favorite stuff has either happened decades before, or is coming from independ artists who dont
04:44:44 <MrMobodies> when I saw remastered on them I didn't think much at first
04:44:55 <MrMobodies> other than my original recordings and when I compared them still
04:45:11 <MrMobodies> now I understand is that it was not about clearing up noise
04:45:27 <MrMobodies> the remastered thing applied to it
04:45:46 <MrMobodies> thats why when I look for music on youtube I exclude remastered stuff
04:46:09 <rust7> it does not have to be a bad thing... it depends
04:46:10 <MrMobodies> I know the quality isn't going to be great as you'd expect
04:46:56 <MrMobodies> it's nice speaking to a proper audiophile to explain about audiofools
04:47:45 <MrMobodies> but I am surprised about the charging in the thousands for sata cable through a hose
04:47:53 <MrMobodies> and $500 the latest
04:48:09 <MrMobodies> oooh that video shown with Dave Jones
04:48:16 <MrMobodies> there was comment on there last year
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04:48:45 <rust7> dave sounds liek he uses autotune
04:48:58 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7ERMu825m4
04:48:59 <EEVBot> [YouTube] EEVblog #29 - Audiophile Audiophoolery | 9m 58s | Channel: EEVblog | 282,124 views | 2009-09-07 - 21:57:43UTC
04:49:09 <MrMobodies> Bruno Fonseca
04:49:09 <MrMobodies> 5 years ago
04:49:09 <MrMobodies> Even 8 years after the release of this video, it has never been so legit.
04:49:27 <MrMobodies> aah wrong comment oops
04:49:35 <MrMobodies> A Fly 1 year ago
04:49:35 <MrMobodies> There has to be a part 2 of this. Some of the shit that is going on in the audio industry is getting out of hand.
04:49:45 <MrMobodies> yes, I think it is getting out of hand
04:50:02 <MrMobodies> people charging thousands of whatever to put nonense on cables
04:50:23 <MrMobodies> like that audio.rocks ebay seller
04:50:35 <rust7> if someone wants to pay that, I have no issue with gluing lego to some cables...
04:50:48 <Kuschelpony> > but I am surprised about the charging in the thousands for sata cable through a hose
04:50:48 <Kuschelpony> and $500 the latest
04:50:57 <Kuschelpony> they are not exactly paying for the cable
04:51:05 <MrMobodies> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/$500-audiofool-sata-ssd-cable/msg4728683/#msg4728683
04:51:06 <EEVBot> [url] $500 Audiofool SATA SSD Cable - Page 3 | www.eevblog.com
04:51:20 <MrMobodies> he had a listing for $3000 some years ago
04:51:24 <MrMobodies> oops the titles wrong
04:51:39 <Kuschelpony> they are paying for the good feeling that someone has talked to them, saying to have a special indicidual cable FOR YOU that is hand made rather than a plain cheap industrial cable
04:52:06 <MrMobodies> Unreal SATA, 32mm thick,50 cm long, Price: $3,000
04:52:18 <MrMobodies> and that cable https://i.imgur.com/ZXAeCgF.jpg
04:52:22 <MrMobodies> I have them in my box
04:52:48 <coppice> at least some of these stupid products look expensive. many are clearly an off the shelf basic cable with a label stuck on
04:53:03 <rust7> I can crochet covers for your network cables, they will be reaaly expensive, but they are special for you dear friend
04:53:14 <MrMobodies> aaah paying for the brainwashing
04:53:16 <MrMobodies> experience
04:53:22 <MrMobodies> I like that one
04:53:27 <MrMobodies> explaination I mean
04:53:34 <coppice> interesting pattern on that double ended dildo
04:53:58 <MrMobodies> it is a bit like when politicians who don't do well go on to do speeches and charge MILLIONS
04:54:08 <MrMobodies> oops I mean Prime ministers
04:54:43 <MrMobodies> paying for that food feeling that they had been talk to by a ruler
04:55:40 <MrMobodies> I was thinking and remembered AudioGoon (Audiogon) and then I found more about this this Audio.Rocks/Coconut audio
04:55:53 <Kuschelpony> oh and please excsuse my intermittent answrrs, im literally just finishing a small speaker project :)
04:56:04 <MrMobodies> I should have known he'd make a profile on there sell things but I forgot about Audiogon
04:56:52 <MrMobodies> what I'd do next time i come across an audiofool listing
04:57:54 <MrMobodies> I'd change any words from "audiophile" to audiofool so it doesn't offend any legitimate audiophiles on the forum as I can see now that can give them a bad name.
04:58:42 <MrMobodies> nothing wrong with extra thick cables and overkill for a little bit extra
04:59:01 <MrMobodies> but the companies take it too far
04:59:47 <MrMobodies> here Kuschelpony, what about cables from TV recording studios?
05:00:09 <MrMobodies> I mean the audio cables from them, are they a good choice too?
05:00:48 <MrMobodies> I'd know they'd spare no expense but they'd justified on costs
05:01:33 <Kuschelpony> I have no idea what they use today, likely everything digital
05:02:08 <Kuschelpony> as far as i knowed stuff from the 90s, it was just good quaity flexible and well shilded twisted pair wires
05:02:32 <Kuschelpony> and often, with LEMO plugs, they are expensive, but very precise swiss made
05:02:54 <coppice> The audio cables used in most studios are very low microphonic types
05:02:57 <Kuschelpony> the next step up over XLR
05:03:11 <MrMobodies> yes like from the 1990's
05:03:20 <Kuschelpony> yes thats anyway, with graphite covering the dielectric of the signal wires
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05:04:19 <Kuschelpony> using the worst cables, i could sometimes see beyond 10mV triboelectric charge on the scope when moving a cable around
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05:07:02 <MrMobodies> I imagine you repair and make cables too
05:07:15 <MrMobodies> I mean audio equipment
05:08:06 <MrMobodies> I am going to sleep for a little while i am feeling very tide, nice you explaing things, thank you for that.
05:09:45 <Kuschelpony> i did this professionally upto 2010
05:09:59 <Kuschelpony> now its still a low priority hobby
05:12:08 <MrMobodies> I'd imagine they'd have you tracing noise from equipment to equipment
05:12:29 <MrMobodies> but it's nice hearing... night and see you later.
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05:19:00 <Kuschelpony> no, i was more on the adavnced consumer side fixing things there, but occassionally also PA equipment in venues
05:56:08 <Kuschelpony> sudo glue -f
05:56:31 <rust7> what is not sticking?
05:57:18 <Kuschelpony> ah trying to make a gasket for a set of speakers from foam rubber
05:57:38 <rust7> sounds fun
05:57:47 <Kuschelpony> they originally were mounted in a TV set long ago where it was not exactly priority to get them airtight
05:58:17 <Kuschelpony> but TSP says they do fine in a sealed box of about two liters so i try to finish today give them a new home
06:19:08 <Kuschelpony> finished
06:27:17 <rust7> well, it only has to be perfect, so that will do
07:04:38 <Kuschelpony> oh https://cdn.masto.host/sigmoidsocial/media_attachments/files/109/978/123/931/648/131/original/9f97d3e5414b8ca6.jpg
07:24:22 <K> wat dat
07:24:39 <rust7> a horny horse. in gold
07:24:52 <Kuschelpony> playing with AI renderings
07:25:05 <Kuschelpony> this one got not even that bad
07:25:27 <jaymax> Someone previously trained it well
07:25:35 <jaymax> Maybe a bit too well
07:26:30 <jaymax> Probably Friendship-is-Magic perfectionists
07:27:06 * Ampera inserts sharp objects into jaymax's brain
07:27:17 <jaymax> <3
07:27:29 * rust7 adds current to said sharp objects
07:27:55 * jaymax offers Ampera some Pinkie Pie
07:28:26 * jaymax gives rust7 the opportunity to Vaarg up that offer
07:32:35 * Ampera gives jaymax a candy corn bowl full of antidepressants
07:32:50 <jaymax> Aight
07:32:54 <jaymax> https://muxup.com/2023q1/commercially-available-risc-v-silicon
07:32:54 <EEVBot> [url] Commercially available RISC-V silicon - Muxup | muxup.com
07:33:21 <rust7> I guess you need them
07:33:31 <jaymax> Nah
07:33:57 * jaymax will feed them to fish directly
07:34:01 <rust7> that is good, denial is the first step
07:35:44 <jaymax> Odds are MAOI's are in that bowl - that's a hard no for me and anyone else who likes booze, cheese, and smoked meats.
07:36:17 <jaymax> I might pick out the trycyclics for sleep aid purposes, tho.
07:38:59 <rust7> I guess I am lucky to now know a thing about that stuff
07:45:05 <jaymax> Well, established off-label uses of cheap old drugs is interesting shit. I unfortunately have more exposure to the shiny-new-pharma hypester wheel, but there is so much of existing therapies that have fringe benefits, better than the crap on American cummercials.
07:46:00 <rust7> eh, I think I will be ok, as long as I get drunk on the random weekend
07:46:41 <jaymax> Oh indeed
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10:16:32 <electrohead> o/
10:17:06 <rust7> 0~
11:05:16 * Ampera burps curry at people
11:10:31 <electrohead> curry sounds amazing right now
11:14:01 <Ampera> I ate a lot of it
11:14:05 <Ampera> probably a bit more than I should have
11:14:06 <Ampera> but it was good
11:14:11 <Ampera> needed more kick and spice though
11:48:28 <coppice> Ampera: was this one of those large collections of cats? You know. A cat zoo
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13:53:52 * Halcyon licks Ampera
13:54:14 <Halcyon> Darn, Steve isn't here to spank. Will have to spank T3sl4 instead.
13:54:34 * T3sl4 turns the other cheek
13:54:44 <Halcyon> :)
13:54:50 <Halcyon> Hey mate, what's doing?
13:55:10 <T3sl4> it do
14:02:20 <T3sl4> what you been up to Halcyon?
14:02:47 <Halcyon> Same old, work, weekends going by way too quickly. Edging ever-closer to 40
14:20:34 * T3sl4 nods
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15:49:03 <steve30000> hi
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17:57:21 <K> hello bottles
17:58:12 <steve30000> o/
17:59:23 <K> steve30k
18:27:53 <steve30000> !coffee
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18:53:00 <MrMobodies> Hello
18:53:06 <MrMobodies> I just found this article
18:53:07 <MrMobodies> https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/i-paid-use-less-electricity-29382115
18:53:08 <EEVBot> [url] Family live by candlelight and switch off computers during energy-saving trial - Mirror Online | www.mirror.co.uk
18:53:26 <MrMobodies> It is nice they are making an attempt to save power but I hope it is not fored on everybody
18:53:58 <MrMobodies> the things I do needs a lot of power
18:54:18 <MrMobodies> but being able to do that is great
18:54:24 <MrMobodies> in my situation I am home all day
18:54:57 <MrMobodies> so I need stuff to be switched on
18:56:03 <MrMobodies> does anyone hear tries to save and scrimp like that?
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19:01:35 <K> not me
19:03:17 <K> steve30000, explain yourselves - https://twitter.com/NoContextBrits/status/1632815964105449472?s=20
19:03:18 <EEVBot> [Twitter] No Context Brits (@NoContextBrits): https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqjtdmUWwAMQXZf.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqjtdmVWYAAh4J4.jpg | 715 RTs | 7555 ♥s | Posted: 2023-03-06 - 20:50:36EET
19:04:17 <steve30000> Candles are extremely innefficient. They'd be better off using some very low power LEDs
19:04:58 Nick: steve30000 is now known as steve30
19:05:41 <steve30> In other news, my Mum has taken out a VDSL service which includes BT Digital Voice. So, bye-bye POTS :(
19:05:49 Nick: RoyalHighness is now known as hisroyalhighness
19:06:41 <hisroyalhighness> someone say pot?
19:11:03 <K> no.
19:11:54 * steve30 winds hisroyalhighness up in a telephone cord
19:12:14 * Halcyon hugs steve30
19:12:26 * steve30 gives Halcyon an LTE hug
19:12:31 <Halcyon> \o/
19:12:31 <EEVBot> |
19:12:32 <EEVBot> / \
19:14:29 <steve30> Halcyon, do you have a PBX which I can call to do an echo test on?
19:14:33 <hisroyalhighness> Please respect my privacy
19:14:37 <Halcyon> I do not
19:14:46 <Halcyon> I need to get around to setting it back up again
19:15:28 <steve30> ok
19:15:39 <steve30> Actually, I can probably do it myself here.
19:15:48 <steve30> I'm using LTE for internet access so just wanted to test the latency
19:17:12 <Halcyon> No more VDSL?
19:18:35 <steve30> My Mother (whose VDSL service I "borrow") has changed her ISP and kit so I've dug out my LTE modem until I can figure something out
19:19:12 <Halcyon> You don't like the new ISP ?
19:24:53 <steve30> More a case of I don't know the credentials for hew new access point
19:25:40 <steve30> OK, so, VoIP latency on LTEis OK but there seems to be some substantial packet loss periodically.
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19:32:14 <steve30> Halcyon, Some ISPs are staring to use a proprietary SIP based system called "digital voice" to replace POTS lines
19:32:59 <steve30> I thought my Mum was staying with EE who don't seem to offer digital voice, but yet she seems to have digital voice, so I'm wondering if she's changed to BT, who do predominantly use digital voice now.
19:38:13 <Halcyon> Why not just use standard SIP like the rest of the world?
19:39:51 <steve30> Because.
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19:41:37 <watcher> Hello
19:42:37 <Halcyon> Hey watcher
19:43:01 <steve30> The idea is that its some walled-garden thing where you have a combi Modem-Router-AP-ATA thing, and you plug your analogue phone into that and the whole thing just "works"
19:43:30 <Halcyon> Sounds stupid
19:44:28 <Halcyon> Hot German T3sl4 is back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm_3yxdFfd8
19:44:28 <EEVBot> [YouTube] I followed a YouTube "Battery Hack" and Wasted 30 Days! | 11m 21s | Channel: GreatScott! | 147,988 views | 2023-03-05 - 15:54:02UTC
19:45:26 <watcher> Halcyon do you mean with hot that great scott is sexy?
19:46:02 <watcher> And if so do you also liked him in the early days (his first Q&A) where he was fatter?
19:57:55 <Halcyon> Yep
19:58:11 <Halcyon> Let me check his first Q&A
19:58:47 <watcher> It is also his face reveal
19:59:35 <Halcyon> He is actually more attractive there
20:00:09 <watcher> I think he is now more attractive mostly his wrist
20:00:43 <Halcyon> Wrist?
20:01:30 <watcher> pulse?
20:01:47 <Halcyon> What about it?
20:02:40 <watcher> Now he lossed wheight I found that now more attractive in comparision in the 'ld days where he was fatter
20:02:59 <Halcyon> Wait... since when do you find guys attractive?
20:05:02 <watcher> I never shared my sexual preferece here. but it is not the way you think that it is.
20:05:25 <Halcyon> Do tell... if you feel comfortable.
20:05:35 <Halcyon> I like to understand people's perspectives
20:06:24 <watcher> How can I say it less guy or sexual?.. His pulse is now more beathifull to look at it. not that the fatter pulse was bad but I like the skinnyer one more
20:07:11 <watcher> Bye bye
20:07:25 <watcher> I have no longer time to hang out here
20:07:26 Quit: watcher ([email protected]) Quit: Why is the alphabet in that order? Is it because of that song?
20:07:39 <steve30> you scared him off
20:07:40 <Halcyon> Righto
20:08:21 <Halcyon> I'm glad he felt comfortable enough to say what he said, even though I don't quite understand what he meant
20:08:30 <Halcyon> Anything goes here
20:08:45 <Halcyon> There shall be no judgement
20:08:55 <Halcyon> I mean, we tolerate T3sl4 so....
20:29:14 * T3sl4 nyucks Halcyon
20:32:58 <steve30> My Windows 7 thinkpad crashed earlier
20:33:05 <steve30> I think that was the first time in a couple of years that it just completely froze
20:37:40 <T3sl4> oopsie
20:47:18 <rust7> that is not allowed
21:03:01 <steve30> This LTE connections seems slower now its daytime
21:05:14 <MrMobodies> aaah Steve30 I think my ISP another tried that on me
21:05:31 <MrMobodies> saying the YeaLink Sip they use is prorpietary or something like that and not compatible
21:05:42 <MrMobodies> ooh sorry no Sip they said "HD voice"
21:05:44 <MrMobodies> last year
21:06:15 <MrMobodies> I managed to persuade them to try a solution from BT called Centrix where you are given an accounnt
21:06:28 <MrMobodies> and you join and shift the number to any device joined
21:06:37 <MrMobodies> and it supports Cisco SPA122 and other stuff
21:06:44 <steve30> Lots of ISPs like that sort of lock-in nowdays. I guess its more profitable.
21:07:11 <MrMobodies> I told XLN when I find a deal elsewhere I am out of there
21:07:30 <MrMobodies> at theend of it when it when I got the SPA122 to work
21:07:36 <MrMobodies> it was on trial
21:08:00 <MrMobodies> the manager said to me, we were all looking towards YeaLink "cloud phones"
21:08:13 <MrMobodies> "you come along and all of a sudden we are looking the other way"
21:08:27 <MrMobodies> I have no problem since
21:08:37 <MrMobodies> the only problem is the dialing time out thing
21:08:53 <MrMobodies> but I dial numbers anywhere that depend on contacts
21:09:03 <MrMobodies> I dnnt' want to be locked in
21:09:27 <MrMobodies> if the conditions are favourable they have my custom as long as they are loyal
21:10:09 <MrMobodies> at first they wanted to charge me £10 per handset, each handset with it's own number.
21:10:15 <steve30> I like my Andrews & Arnold SIP service. Recently went up from £1.20 to £1.40 ish but still cheap and reliable
21:10:18 <MrMobodies> I said no way, this is a house not a business.
21:10:25 <MrMobodies> oooh
21:10:28 <MrMobodies> that's nice
21:12:36 <MrMobodies> if I take out a service with tem
21:12:44 <MrMobodies> I'd want to block premium rate numbers
21:12:50 <MrMobodies> like I am able to do with BtCentrix
21:13:05 <MrMobodies> Premium rate everything
21:13:19 <MrMobodies> My dad tried to call a hotel, it was blocked
21:13:39 <MrMobodies> when I found out why, it was a premium rate number £1.40 and 25p thereadtr a minute
21:14:33 <MrMobodies> I pay £5 a month for my VOIP seat with XLN
21:14:55 <MrMobodies> and it has stayed that way since early last year and i hope it does for the rest of the duration
21:15:22 <MrMobodies> it does landlines but groups of number that will cost me I can block
21:15:49 <MrMobodies> but it works with my analogue phones
21:15:52 <MrMobodies> I have 6 of them
21:15:59 <MrMobodies> and theres only 3 people living here
21:16:50 <MrMobodies> I like the portal though
21:16:54 <MrMobodies> with the call log
21:17:01 <MrMobodies> and the settings and stuff
22:29:56 * steve30 toasts
22:34:22 <K> get toasted!
22:34:33 * K contemplates doing a banan.
22:35:17 <rust7> appelsin!
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23:11:27 <Ampera> one hour's rain delay getting into work this morning
23:11:33 <Ampera> meetings keeping me an hour late :D
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23:17:25 <electrohead> excuses.
23:18:50 <K> that's a paddlin'.
23:18:57 * Ampera sends electrohead to hell, where manual transmissions don't exist, and everyone has to drive a slushbox
23:19:19 * Ampera gives K a potatoing
23:19:41 * K stores it.
23:21:22 <Ampera> I put potatoes in the curry I made
23:21:27 <Ampera> though I should have put more of it
23:21:42 <Ampera> like maybe even twice the amount
23:21:50 <Ampera> plenty of mushrooms though :D
23:22:18 <rust7> arrrgh
23:22:38 <rust7> any hint of mushroom is too much mushroom
23:22:48 <Ampera> oh wow, I just found out something rust7
23:22:52 <Ampera> you are wrong!
23:22:53 <rust7> add badger in stead
23:23:05 <Ampera> I added extra mushroom
23:23:12 <rust7> I am always wrong, but I am more wrong than you
23:23:17 <Ampera> 1kg mushrooms
23:23:36 <Ampera> in one medium sized pot of curry
23:23:36 <rust7> noooooooooo
23:25:22 * rust7 sads
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