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00:03:50 <K> oh my
00:06:42 <rust0> do you need the wet part of a shop vac, or is this only for the pcb things?
00:09:04 <K> just pcb and prolly alu/plastic chips
00:09:55 <K> i hear that fr4 dust really is not good for anything so something has to be done about it
00:11:08 <rust0> I guess you can use it as an abrasive, but in general, no, not good for much
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01:06:38 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera! your server is lagging! @D
01:06:40 <Ysjoelfir> :D
01:10:53 * electrohead yawns and .. does things
01:18:43 <Ysjoelfir> !speed electrohead
01:19:54 <electrohead> sorry, my machines don't do meth
01:19:56 <electrohead> :p
01:20:35 <electrohead> oh ffs
01:20:38 <electrohead> "ChatGPT is at capacity right now"
01:22:02 * Ysjoelfir fucks electrohead 's sake
01:22:44 <electrohead> o.O
01:22:47 <electrohead> noooo
01:22:49 <electrohead> lol
01:27:52 <Ysjoelfir> why not?
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01:43:34 <jaymax> electrohead: did anyone run a dataset so rolling-your-own ChatGPT gets practical?
01:53:49 <electrohead> jaymax: not sure
01:53:50 <jaymax> Maybe there's a sopel integration..? https://archive.org/details/github.com-transitive-bullshit-chatgpt-api_-_2022-12-08_20-24-32
01:53:51 <EEVBot> [url] github.com-transitive-bullshit-chatgpt-api_-_2022-12-08_20-24-32 : transitive-bullshit : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive | archive.org
01:54:10 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: I just wanted to have some fun this morning with chatgpt :P
01:54:18 * jaymax destroys electrohead's time
01:54:45 <rust0> there is no point, he does that already
01:56:05 <electrohead> just found this - https://github.com/acheong08/ChatGPT
01:56:05 <EEVBot> [GitHub] acheong08/ChatGPT - Lightweight package for interacting with ChatGPT's API by OpenAI. Uses reverse engineered official API. | 100.0% Python | Last Push: 2023-01-08 - 05:04:09EST | Stargazers: 9013 | Watchers: 84 | Forks: 1119 | Network: 1119 | Open Issues: 15
01:59:18 <jaymax> So many Telegram, Slack, and Discord integrations. Ugh.
02:01:52 <electrohead> Too many, guh
02:01:56 <electrohead> also, lol - https://v.redd.it/t2mbk3gkvsaa1
02:01:58 <EEVBot> [reddit] This is the best bar trick I've ever seen to r/Unexpected | 19423 points (91.0%) | 366 comments | Posted by EvaRaw666 | Created at 2023-01-08 - 05:54:32EST | https://redd.it/106gh3d
02:03:41 <jaymax> Some just take "hair of the dog" too far.
02:06:36 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, how so
02:06:40 <Ampera> everything looks fine to me
02:06:59 <Ysjoelfir> was just in the nether where it was a tad laggy
02:07:13 <Ampera> tbh I half forgot the server was even running lol
02:07:51 <Ampera> htop is pretty quiet over here
02:08:09 <K> prolly tubes got clogged somewhere along the way
02:08:58 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, some lava in there made it lag
02:09:13 <Ysjoelfir> and good that you already for got that it exists xD
02:16:25 * electrohead mashes K's potats
02:18:21 <K> no potat tonight, rice and indian chicken sauce
02:18:46 <K> aka butter-chicken
02:20:06 <Ysjoelfir> does it contain butter?
02:20:16 <K> it does
02:20:20 <Ysjoelfir> weee!
02:20:28 <Ysjoelfir> is it maybe even a better butter chicken?
02:20:47 <K> the bestest
02:20:52 <Ysjoelfir> nice!
02:32:06 <Ysjoelfir> did you ever try the better butter chicken from Tittli Nihan? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fwzIRcaYXk
02:32:06 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Better Butter Chicken Recipe (with free tongue-twister) | 4m 45s | Channel: Titlis Busy Kitchen | 65,222 views | 2012-09-02 - 08:30:07UTC
02:33:41 <electrohead> yums
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03:16:38 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmAG8-V_WQY
03:16:38 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Making the stinkiest chemical known to man | 43m 36s | Channel: NileRed | 5,403,539 views | 2022-12-24 - 00:46:40UTC
03:17:07 <Ysjoelfir> I still wondered how he got a sample of my farts
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03:53:04 <MrMobodies> Hello
03:53:31 <MrMobodies> That thing with my eyes have returned
03:53:33 <MrMobodies> red eyes
03:53:36 <MrMobodies> lots of water
03:53:45 <MrMobodies> thick stuff
03:53:59 <MrMobodies> someone told me the name of it
03:54:00 <MrMobodies> https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/conjunctivitis/
03:54:01 <EEVBot> [url] Conjunctivitis - NHS | www.nhs.uk
03:54:26 <MrMobodies> someone else is having the same symptoms except they can't open one eye
03:55:23 <MrMobodies> I hope it won't damage my vision
04:01:13 <watcher> MrMobodies go to a doctor
04:11:06 <rust0> heh, red eye... go to the pharmacy, and talk to them
04:18:26 <Ysjoelfir> I agree to that
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04:28:15 <electrohead> MrMobodies: it won't damage your vision. also, do you have sinus/allergy issues?
04:28:22 <electrohead> shit like that happens to me quite some
04:29:52 <MrMobodies> Doctors? I cna't see one
04:30:00 <MrMobodies> I had to BEG at the surgery
04:30:05 <MrMobodies> just to get a prescription
04:30:13 <MrMobodies> I do have asthma
04:30:32 <MrMobodies> I will go the pharmacy
04:30:38 <MrMobodies> considering it is excessive
04:31:06 <MrMobodies> that was for a chest infetion after a cold
04:31:28 <MrMobodies> I think I might have had similar symptoms in 2006
04:31:37 <MrMobodies> it would come and go after blinking
04:31:47 <MrMobodies> but not as long and slow as thi
04:32:07 <MrMobodies> and that goes with that cold and chest infection quite a lot of people had bene getting
04:32:30 <MrMobodies> just went to get the newspaper and as I was leaving... cough cough cough cough chough from the shopkeeper
04:42:27 <rust0> well, it is the season
05:08:58 <MrMobodies> Since I had what I think of as COVID in January 2020
05:09:10 <MrMobodies> I don't think I had a cold for about over 2 years
05:09:31 <MrMobodies> so must be lucky in 2020 and 2021
05:09:44 <MrMobodies> I didn't have any covid vaccine
05:09:50 <rust0> well, there was not may people to get it from, was there?
05:09:51 <MrMobodies> due to the fears of complications
05:09:57 <LordGeir> Ysjoelfir: "I still wondered how he got a sample of my farts": He probably bought it on eBay :P
05:10:09 <Ysjoelfir> oh. maybe!
05:10:18 <rust0> you can extract it from bathwater... lalalalalala
05:10:47 <MrMobodies> There was one time when I was 15 I think
05:10:54 <MrMobodies> I was on a holiday with a school
05:11:05 <MrMobodies> a seaside resort
05:11:12 <MrMobodies> I brought this can of fart gas
05:11:33 <MrMobodies> a coupe months later I was being hounded and pestered by this bully
05:11:52 <MrMobodies> one day I found his bedroom open and sprayed his dirty laundry basket
05:12:02 <MrMobodies> yes I got away with it but I regret it
05:12:13 <MrMobodies> he left me alone after that
05:12:22 <MrMobodies> there was a big inquiry
05:12:26 <LordGeir> I saw a guy pull a prank on his wife. Bought fart drops, where 1 drop was way too much, and he dropped half the container into his wife's shampoo :D
05:12:36 <MrMobodies> they searched the whole building with 30 bedrooms
05:13:10 <MrMobodies> someone found the can when I was away and was told to just dump it in the river down the road
05:13:24 <MrMobodies> too much trouble for the staff to raise
05:13:40 <MrMobodies> but that inquiry and room search took a day
05:13:48 <MrMobodies> over stink from a dirty laundry basket
05:14:46 <MrMobodies> but it solved the problem of being pestered by that bully that looked to me like a tall lamp post
05:15:11 <rust0> I do remember someone throwing a 5kg bag of red paint pigment into a room, and blasting it with the fire hose for a bit. That looked nice and cosy, like a home slaughterhouse
05:15:26 <MrMobodies> sounds like fun
05:15:36 <rust0> oh yes
05:16:31 <MrMobodies> i was making sandwiches one day two of them
05:16:36 <MrMobodies> this lamp post come along
05:16:46 <MrMobodies> "No! you are having TWO! slices"
05:16:57 <MrMobodies> I said "Bugger off! and leave me alone!"
05:17:14 <MrMobodies> and he touched my bread and contaminated my food
05:17:30 <MrMobodies> that was the last straw he pulled
05:17:50 <MrMobodies> before his laundry basket emitted a smell
05:18:06 <MrMobodies> so strong it stunk the whole corridor our
05:18:18 <MrMobodies> *out
05:18:57 <MrMobodies> that's was the reason they searched everyone's room
05:19:03 <MrMobodies> and interviewed everybody
05:19:16 <MrMobodies> there was other times that happened after that
05:19:28 <MrMobodies> when one of the staff's keys went missing
05:20:04 <MrMobodies> a phone call to the police using some toy recorder that changes the voice, the culprits came forward on that one and apologixed
05:21:25 <MrMobodies> and the questions they asked made me feel like thw guilt one (with the keys and police)
05:21:37 <MrMobodies> but there was about 40 students in that block
05:22:42 <MrMobodies> but the keys were found somewhere and the lads came forward
05:23:05 <MrMobodies> they went on some awareness thing about wasting police time
05:24:04 <rust0> heh, talking about wasting police time, lol
05:24:26 <MrMobodies> they pretended there was an emergency or something like that
05:24:52 <MrMobodies> a couple of years later despite the difficulties they wisened up
05:25:22 <MrMobodies> they are dangerous just silly
05:25:24 <MrMobodies> oops*
05:25:33 <MrMobodies> they were not dangerous just did silly things
05:25:51 <MrMobodies> quite a few were violent
05:26:00 <MrMobodies> those were given therapy
05:26:10 <MrMobodies> they come from violent backgrounds
05:26:20 <MrMobodies> quite a few of them in the end turned out quite nice
05:26:55 <MrMobodies> there were a few folks that use to steal things
05:27:18 <MrMobodies> this lad sorted them out quite civilisely and they handed the stolen items back
05:27:29 <MrMobodies> without the violence they use to emit
05:28:39 <MrMobodies> one day he nearly broke my neck. He hated me and I use to call him a goat but his friends talked him out of it
05:28:52 <MrMobodies> I said to him it is not worth it
05:29:24 <MrMobodies> I end up dead or on a wheel chair and you go jail and nobody like you deserve to go to jail
05:29:38 <MrMobodies> his friends "He's right it's not worth it let him go"
05:29:44 <MrMobodies> then he let me go
05:30:08 <MrMobodies> after that he was no longer horribl
05:30:35 <MrMobodies> I think those friends of his turned out to be his true friends
05:30:53 <MrMobodies> because true friends I have seen try to get people out of trouble
05:31:08 <MrMobodies> they were rational on that basis
05:31:20 <MrMobodies> compared to two years before when they made that prank call to the police
05:31:45 <MrMobodies> that moment changed all of us
05:31:55 <MrMobodies> it was like a matter of life and death
05:32:17 <MrMobodies> his was very angry and agitated his grip on my neck
05:32:33 <MrMobodies> he said he was assaulted daily by his dad
05:32:46 <MrMobodies> he was taken away trained on judo
05:33:04 <MrMobodies> and one day he was returned home he crippled his dad
05:33:12 <MrMobodies> not judy the martial art thing
05:33:23 <MrMobodies> and he said he was on a police register
05:33:30 <MrMobodies> that he was not allowed to use it
05:34:39 <MrMobodies> last time I met him was when he was visiting the house unit
05:34:51 <MrMobodies> I took him out to the fair with the rides
05:34:57 <MrMobodies> completely different person
05:35:15 <MrMobodies> it's nice when people get better
05:35:26 <MrMobodies> aqnd change their ways
05:47:24 <MrMobodies> I have found something
05:47:27 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265997942328
05:47:28 <EEVBot> [url] BrightSign USB400 4 Port Powered USB Hub | eBay | www.ebay.co.uk
05:47:29 <MrMobodies> in this listing
05:47:32 <MrMobodies> in a box
05:50:41 <MrMobodies> it is this thing
05:50:49 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/qxnH8gM.png
05:51:01 <MrMobodies> Lynx Audio conversion module
05:51:02 <MrMobodies> 850-045455
05:51:20 <MrMobodies> I can find the manufacturers website but nothing about it no no product listed
05:51:27 <MrMobodies> other than they make audio interfaces
05:51:43 <MrMobodies> it looks to me like come audio capture
05:52:15 <MrMobodies> I asked the seller and as I buying a couple more of those usb hubs they are going to send it with them
05:52:17 <irc> MrMobodies: scavanging some online shop treasures here?
05:52:26 <MrMobodies> yes
05:52:56 <MrMobodies> the seller don't know anything about what they are selling to know
05:53:10 <MrMobodies> I think it was used with some media player for signs and advertising
05:53:13 <irc> "what's that thing? looks like some computer card, the name says Xilinx Virtex UltraScale+ and the kid says it's not a graphic card? Probably some junk, I'll sell it for $20"
05:54:06 <MrMobodies> oh Fpga
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05:54:18 <MrMobodies> but that is how I get all excited
05:54:19 <josuah`> the price for this board is "contact sales" :P
05:54:30 <MrMobodies> the seller threw it in
05:54:45 <MrMobodies> when I asked for a price
05:54:59 <MrMobodies> when I brought the hubs
05:55:04 <josuah`> note: the above quote was fictive, I did not see that $8000 board on that photo
05:55:37 <MrMobodies> my excitment has something to do with mystery
05:55:50 <MrMobodies> just like when Dave Jones does a teardown
05:56:00 <MrMobodies> explains how it works and shows the board
05:56:08 <MrMobodies> the excitement is over
05:57:51 <MrMobodies> just like that audio capture thing when I open it up
05:58:29 <MrMobodies> it is one of the very few bits of excitement I get
05:59:06 <MrMobodies> and if it works and captures audio then that's a bonus
06:00:57 <josuah`> haha makes sense :D
06:01:11 <josuah`> "don't power it up, take it apart"
06:02:24 <josuah`> I need to lookup the largest electronic parts dumpster from around
06:02:28 <josuah`> maybe every office has one
06:02:49 <josuah`> for my previous job, the whole office kind of was one :D (sys admin, lots of broken ole gears)
06:04:10 <MrMobodies> well I didn't take the hub apart first on that occasion I took it apart after I did some tests
06:04:34 <MrMobodies> applied power -> see if somes through the USB port to computer. No power
06:05:00 <MrMobodies> Plugged in computer, connect meter to hubs power connect
06:05:07 <MrMobodies> no power to it's nicel isolated
06:05:15 <MrMobodies> then I opened it
06:05:33 <MrMobodies> in fact later I'll open it again and shows sone pictures
06:15:23 <MrMobodies> found the usb controller of the those hubs in the browser history
06:15:24 <MrMobodies> https://www.genesyslogic.com.tw/en/product_view.php?show=22
06:15:26 <EEVBot> [url] Genesys Logic, Inc. | www.genesyslogic.com.tw
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07:10:15 <Kuschelpony> https://assets.kinky.business/file/kinkybz/media_attachments/files/109/655/385/401/782/648/original/17fd41a943a5de05.jpg
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08:50:32 <MrMobodies> just being reading about the PPE face mask scandal
08:50:49 <MrMobodies> where fake certification was provided
08:51:06 <MrMobodies> as the company of the certification denied it ever tested them
08:51:34 <MrMobodies> on the other hand pleased to see the founders? sued for other things
08:51:36 <MrMobodies> https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/michelle-mone-sued-for-200k-25920043
08:51:37 <EEVBot> [url] Tory peer Michelle Mone being sued for £200,000 over racist text claim - Daily Record | www.dailyrecord.co.uk
08:51:43 <MrMobodies> Doesn't that show their true colours?
08:51:54 <MrMobodies> I mean her true colours
08:53:01 <MrMobodies> oh that was last year
08:54:06 <MrMobodies> I hope her and her partner are pursued over the PPE marks but it would be interesting to know what happened
08:54:30 <MrMobodies> did they place an order with the correct specifications to their Chinese counterparts
08:54:58 <MrMobodies> and received an order that didn't meet the specifications
08:55:14 <MrMobodies> and are too embarassed to admit it went wrong
08:56:18 <MrMobodies> https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/06/michelle-mone-ppe-medpro-referred-to-health-watchdog-dhsc
08:56:19 <EEVBot> [url] PPE Medpro: Michelle Mone-linked firm referred to UK health watchdog | Michelle Mone | The Guardian | www.theguardian.com
08:57:19 <MrMobodies> aaah this is better with the gowns
08:57:20 <MrMobodies> https://www.ft.com/content/7a2093f8-55f8-400f-9176-2225b9193e05
08:57:20 <EEVBot> [url] Subscribe to read | Financial Times | www.ft.com
08:57:36 <MrMobodies> Single walled gowns instead of double.
08:58:04 <MrMobodies> oops works for me but might not for everyone
08:59:06 <MrMobodies> after reloading paywall
08:59:18 <MrMobodies> they have a an article limit per week which is detected by IP
09:19:57 <MrMobodies> I found something else today disturbing
09:20:02 <MrMobodies> https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jan/07/revealed-nhs-trusts-tell-patients-they-can-go-private-and-jump-hospital-queues
09:20:03 <EEVBot> [url] Revealed: NHS trusts tell patients they can go private and jump hospital queues | NHS | The Guardian | www.theguardian.com
09:20:29 <MrMobodies> if I was told for a condition that needs immediate treatment
09:20:51 <MrMobodies> they are busy, overstretech etc, and have a waiitng list I can understand that.
09:21:29 <MrMobodies> if they say, you want it done quickly and can afford it, go this private hospital, see if they can do it, not owned by the public and funded by the tax payer
09:21:52 <MrMobodies> but if I was told, we can offer you this treatment right here and right now with the same gp in th esame room
09:21:57 <MrMobodies> I'd go absolutely MAD
09:22:08 <MrMobodies> and accuse them of lying which
09:22:46 <MrMobodies> if they are are busy and overstretched they can't be at the same time if they offering because it is private
09:23:55 <MrMobodies> the principle sounds wrong to me
09:24:08 <MrMobodies> as it is funded by the tax payer
09:25:42 <MrMobodies> "The premium treatments are being offered through private patient units owned and operated by NHS trusts and typically located on hospital premises. Procedures are often carried out by the same staff ..."
09:26:00 <MrMobodies> absolutely digusting
09:27:23 <rust0> just be rich, and you will be fine
09:31:17 <MrMobodies> yes
09:31:26 <MrMobodies> that's what they are expecting
09:33:03 <rust0> well, good night.
09:33:09 <MrMobodies> night
09:33:39 <MrMobodies> I am hoping to have another good night sleep, went to be at 5am this morning and woke up at 2.30pm
09:34:00 <MrMobodies> I slept in a bed this time not a chair and I cough a little feel the tingling in my throat
09:34:12 <MrMobodies> but now where as bad as 4 weeks ago
09:35:07 <MrMobodies> My bum aches a lot that I wake up and move sidewards in the chair so I didn't get good sleep for a while
10:39:02 <Halcyon> Morning woodchips
10:40:45 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
10:40:46 <Ampera> <3
10:40:50 <Ampera> how are you doing friend?
10:40:52 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
10:40:56 <Halcyon> I'm good, how are you?
10:41:00 <Ampera> tired
10:41:22 <Halcyon> Oh Ampera, you know AMD stuff.... what would be a reasonable AMD CPU these days for a mid to highend workstation, nothing too stupid?
10:42:04 <Ampera> look into deals on AM4 stuff. That's last gen stuff, so 5000 series and 3000 series chips are likely gonna be coming down in price as time goes on
10:42:45 <Ampera> 6 or 8 core Ryzen 5/7 models are fairly middle of the road, while still being reasonably performant
10:44:25 <Ampera> also uses DDR4, which is still cheaper than DDR5
10:44:38 <Halcyon> Yeh sweet, thanks.
10:44:42 <Halcyon> What's happening on your end?
10:44:57 <Ampera> fired up the generator I got for christmas
10:45:05 <Ampera> putting oil in it was a pain in the ass, and I only made a minor mess
10:45:22 <Halcyon> What you using the generator for?
10:45:25 <Ampera> but it's a pretty good generator.
10:45:30 <Ampera> I was using it to clean out my car and air up the tires
10:45:42 <Ampera> I don't actually have a use for one, but engines don't like sitting
10:46:56 <Ampera> It's fairly small, and has a good handle on it. I was able to move it around to different parts of the yard while it was running
10:48:28 <Halcyon> Yeh fair enough
11:42:25 <steve30> hi
11:44:07 <steve30> I'm not quite sure what the purpose of this road sign is. Do they expect people to throw litter out of their car, stop to get out and pick it up, then get run over?
11:44:08 <steve30> https://goo.gl/maps/oeoD99uhgiYnotpDA
11:44:08 <EEVBot> [url] Google Maps | goo.gl
11:50:11 <MrMobodies> not very well written
11:50:38 <MrMobodies> I think they might mean *them* picking your little risks their life.
11:51:33 <steve30> ah, i didn't think of that
11:52:47 <MrMobodies> "Fly tipping on this roads put our cleaners at risk"
11:55:58 <Halcyon> Seems odd, wouldn't "Littering will cost you $xxx. Don't be a dickhead" work better?
11:57:06 <MrMobodies> I like that one
11:57:26 <steve30> I think there may already be a flytipping sign up there somewhere
11:59:23 <steve30> i want to go to the gym today but i think i'll wait till later then i can go for groceries after
12:00:08 <Halcyon> I need to go mow the lawns
12:04:00 <steve30> !coffee
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13:12:54 <josuah`> !coffee
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13:13:04 <josuah`> heh :)
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15:02:41 * Ysjoelfir mows Halcyon
15:05:43 <Halcyon> Afternoon cheese-on-toasts
15:05:45 * Halcyon licks Ysjoelfir
15:07:51 * Ysjoelfir offers Halcyon a nice roasted ham and chicken and cheese on guacamole, pepperball-onion chutney and majonnez viniary sammich
15:07:59 <Halcyon> Yummmm
15:08:07 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjRbt2Bf8Ho
15:08:08 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Is This The Best Dish of 2022? | Japanese Karē | 6m 31s | Channel: Andy Cooks | 88,721 views | 2023-01-07 - 14:30:05UTC
15:08:12 <Halcyon> I want Japanese curry
15:08:42 <Ysjoelfir> I made japanese curry once. though I used these insanely expensive japanese curry stock packets. it was delicious.
15:09:49 <Halcyon> The Golden Curry ones?
15:09:54 <Halcyon> They are delicious
15:10:18 <Halcyon> https://www.coles.com.au/product/s-and-b-golden-curry-hot-sauce-mix-92g-5799991
15:10:20 <EEVBot> [url] Buy S & B Golden Curry Hot Sauce Mix 92g | Coles | www.coles.com.au
15:10:50 <Ysjoelfir> yep, these
15:10:59 <Ysjoelfir> but we chose the mild ones
15:10:59 <Halcyon> How much do they cost there?
15:12:21 <Ysjoelfir> we had them from the asian store, and they were 8€ for a pack
15:12:35 <Halcyon> Holy crap!
15:12:37 <Halcyon> What a rip off
15:12:41 <Ysjoelfir> yep
15:13:05 <Halcyon> That's like AUD$12
15:13:21 <Ysjoelfir> nice :D so 3x as expensive
15:13:38 <Halcyon> It would be cheaper just to post some to you
15:13:52 <Ysjoelfir> well, taking into account that it was like 5 years ago, they are now probably 10
15:15:17 <Ysjoelfir> oh, Halcyon! my supernote should arrive this week
15:15:41 <Halcyon> Oh YAY!
15:15:51 <Halcyon> Which one did you end up getting?
15:16:22 <Halcyon> brb, just need to have a shower, I'm so sticky
15:16:41 <Ysjoelfir> I chose the A5X with the blue canvas folio and the green HoI2 pen
15:17:03 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy your unsticking shower, after talking about golden curry. :P
15:21:31 <Halcyon> That's better
15:22:01 <Halcyon> No I was mowing the lawns and it's about 28-30 degrees today so I was sweating a lot. Then the sun screen on top of that made me feel gross
15:22:10 <Halcyon> I just need to rinse everything off
15:22:19 <Ysjoelfir> eww, thats insanely how
15:23:14 <Halcyon> Now I need to moisturise because silly me went out for a walk yesterday and didn't put sun screen on, so my neck and arms are burnt
15:23:46 <Ysjoelfir> I somehow never managed to burn my skin
15:24:09 <Halcyon> I'd imagine the sun isn't as harsh there?
15:26:00 <Ysjoelfir> it is disgusting in summer. especially here on the coast. but you are closer to the equator, yes. but still, I didn't even manage to achieve that when I have been to vacation in egypt. I never ever used sunscreen there, not even when doing the quad tour through the sahara
15:27:40 <Halcyon> I'm blonde, white euro though, I just burn.
15:28:17 <Ysjoelfir> the misses does that as well. she just looks at the sun and becomes crispy on the outside
16:32:36 <T3sl4> Ampera, https://imgur.com/gallery/tjZNytP
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16:41:05 <Ysjoelfir> eeeehwattheheck?
16:48:40 * steve30 needs food
17:05:39 <T3sl4> no food only caffeine
17:05:42 <T3sl4> !coffee steve30
17:05:42 * EEVBot drowns steve30 in coffee
17:06:07 <steve30> coffee is better after food
17:45:32 <T3sl4> K: https://i.redd.it/pn6mle4cgwaa1.jpg
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17:55:11 <K> hello rooiboses
17:55:25 <K> oh, a potat. thank.
18:01:21 <T3sl4> steve30: https://www.reddit.com/r/PeopleFuckingDying/comments/106w6xo/deranged_human_tenderizes_cat_meat_before_cooking/
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18:05:37 <Ysjoelfir> that'll be a super tasty and tender cat roast
18:07:39 * steve30 is curried
18:10:58 * Halcyon mews at the room
18:13:13 <Halcyon> My blank media shelf is coming along: https://imgur.com/a/fJTHQgK
18:13:13 <EEVBot> [url] Imgur: The magic of the Internet | imgur.com
18:15:59 <K> holly macaroni, a diskette box w lock
18:16:09 <K> two of them!
18:18:57 <Halcyon> Yessum
18:19:06 <Halcyon> Old school
18:22:33 <Ysjoelfir> wtf... I am not realy a fan of rossmann, but I highly supported his aproach to fight for that right to repair thing. wtf did they do out of that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO6V8gxayeA
18:22:33 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Louis Rossmann fought for THIS!? | 11m 15s | Channel: LMG Clips | 704,248 views | 2023-01-04 - 18:33:59UTC
18:23:15 <Ysjoelfir> Also, I have.... had? 2 of these floppy boxes with locks as well. I might have forgotten them at the old place
18:23:50 <Halcyon> I can't stand Linus
18:24:54 <Halcyon> Too much douche-baggery
18:26:17 <Ysjoelfir> I can't stand that guy either.
18:26:28 <Ysjoelfir> tbh I didn't even notice that it was him
18:27:15 <Halcyon> Hah
18:27:37 <K> um, what are you upset about there?
18:27:50 <K> linus is angry that a butchered bill got signed
18:28:11 <K> or am i missing something there? (listening to the video now)
18:28:24 <steve30> Halcyon, are those VHS tapes ex-police ones?
18:28:24 <Halcyon> I didn't watch it so I can't comment
18:28:43 <K> also there is top comment from rossman himself: "Hits me right in the feels. Thanks for covering, sir!"
18:28:48 <Halcyon> steve30, some are, they were throwing out blanks because they stopped using VHS for interviews long time ago
18:28:58 <Halcyon> We found a bunch in a store room that were getting thrown out
18:29:50 <Ysjoelfir> K - you missed, that I wasn't complaining about the video, but about what they (=the government and the lobby organisations) made our of it
18:29:53 <Ysjoelfir> :)
18:30:12 <steve30> I stocked up on blank VHS a few years ago. Haven't used many of them.
18:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> I support the right to repair. I am very upset what came out of all of this fighting.
18:30:29 <K> ah.
18:30:40 <K> linus is opinionated, but ok in my book
18:30:50 <K> as is rossmann
18:31:06 <Halcyon> Hopefully companies get the hint. We have laws which state that companes must provide a "reasonable access" to spare parts.
18:31:13 <Ysjoelfir> I don't particularely like any of the two, personally
18:31:21 <Halcyon> But, how that's ultimately defined would be up to a court
18:31:36 <Ysjoelfir> europe is working on a law that forces companies to make it possible for the customer to easily swap batteries
18:31:45 <K> well, apple did get got told by eu - have usb-c charging, or else
18:31:53 <Ysjoelfir> yes, but not quite, K
18:32:01 <K> no?
18:32:04 <Halcyon> Apple got smacked by our government too for various things.
18:32:05 <Ysjoelfir> apple CAN circumvent that.
18:32:17 <Halcyon> Basically, our consumer laws make AppleCare redundant
18:32:32 <Ysjoelfir> the EU actually only said: phones have to be charged vie USB type C, if the main charging power is transfered wired
18:32:59 <Ysjoelfir> so apple could just offer a fast QI charging derivative, and keep their stupid lightning thing
18:33:56 <Halcyon> I actually love wireless charging. I mostly charge my phone that way
18:34:02 <Ysjoelfir> Oh, Halcyon! I just received a mail from DHL express. My supernote is out for delivery. holy crap. I ordered it on thursday at 2300.
18:34:09 <Ysjoelfir> I would love it too, if my phone would have it
18:34:09 <Halcyon> \o/
18:34:10 <EEVBot> I
18:34:10 <EEVBot> / >
18:34:33 <K> wireless charging is wastefull af
18:35:15 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
18:35:22 <Halcyon> In what way K?
18:35:30 <K> inneficient
18:35:37 <Halcyon> Sure there are losses, but in the grand scheme of things, who cares?
18:35:55 <Ysjoelfir> but pretty cool, if I could just throw my phone in that cavity in my volkswagen and have it charge, instead of fiddling with wires
18:36:17 <Halcyon> I can charge my phone up to 2 Amps while I'm sleeping
18:36:27 <Halcyon> Saves wear on the connector
18:36:28 <K> 60% efficiency does not fel like progress to me
18:37:10 <Halcyon> Sure, it might be only 60% but as a consumer, the cost is almost unmeasurable
18:37:36 <K> i find it a shit idea
18:37:41 <Halcyon> Think about the opposite.... solar panels aren't super efficient either, yet they are everywhere
18:38:18 <K> and that i see as a non-sequitor
18:38:26 <Halcyon> Over in AU, about 30% of homes have solar
18:41:58 <Ysjoelfir> In germany, roughly 40% homes are private owned, and from these, roughly 20% have solar
18:42:40 <Halcyon> My point is, wireless charging has excellent applications. You could almost consider solar as "wireless".
18:43:16 <Ysjoelfir> I don't argue that, I like wireless charging, despite its shortcommings
18:44:49 <Halcyon> There was a thread about it on the forum. Sometimes you don't want your devices charging at maximum power. Which is where the losses in wireless simply don't matter
18:45:26 <Halcyon> I could charge my phone overnight off a bog-standard 500mA USB port and it still wouldn't matter. The end result is that it's full by the morning.
18:48:42 <Ysjoelfir> yep, thats true. though I am happy that I finally found a charger that is dead silent and doesn't squeak under low load, as its beside my pillow
18:48:53 <Ysjoelfir> (its a QC3 charger)
18:49:07 <T3sl4> Halcyon: not MEdia shelf. OURdia shelf!
18:49:38 * Ysjoelfir snags his Ourdia from Halcyon's shelf
18:51:25 <Halcyon> I'll share with you T3sl4
18:51:39 <Halcyon> I still have more to sort out and put there. Might need a bigger rack
18:51:49 <T3sl4> mmm, i love your rack
18:52:51 * Halcyon blushes
18:54:29 <Ysjoelfir> hm, interesting. I just heard from my mum, who lives in that part of Germany, that "Ali" is not anymore the most common boys name in Duisburg.
18:55:47 <Halcyon> That's racist
18:55:48 <Halcyon> :P
18:55:59 <Ysjoelfir> I expected some german name to return, as per our government we only have like under 20 percent of migrant families in germany. So I checked what the most used boys name for 2022 was. It was "Hamza".
18:56:19 <Ysjoelfir> thats.... interesting.
18:56:33 <Halcyon> Like Hans?
18:56:36 <Ysjoelfir> no
18:56:42 <Halcyon> Gertrude?
18:56:56 <K> Herbert
18:57:07 <Ysjoelfir> like that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamza
18:57:07 <EEVBot> [wikipedia] Hamza | "Hamza (Arabic: همزة hamzah) (ء) is a letter in the Arabic alphabet, representing the glottal stop [ʔ]. Hamza is not one of the 28 "full" letters and owes its existence to historical inconsistencies in the standard writing system. It is derived from the Arabic letter ʿAyn (ع). In the Phoenician and Aramaic alphabets, from which the Arabic alphabet is descended, the glottal stop was expressed by alif (𐤀), continued by […]"
18:57:16 <Ysjoelfir> ah, thanks EEVBot.
18:57:16 <Halcyon> Jannik
18:59:46 <T3sl4> ironic, ham 'za is the last thing they'll be eating
19:00:09 <Halcyon> I feel like pizza now
19:01:20 <Ysjoelfir> I don't know much about it, but it somehow feels strange to me. especially since news media... I dunno, did you, internationally, got notice about the excessive brutality that happened in berlin on new years?
19:01:44 <Halcyon> Didn't know anything about it
19:02:29 <Ysjoelfir> let me rephrase what news media and our government are publicising, and after that, let me rephrase what the people, that were involved, said in interviews, that was cut out in the official statements
19:03:40 <T3sl4> i don't recall seeing anything, no
19:05:02 <Ysjoelfir> official statement: Right wing terroristic attacks on police and firefighters on new years led to serious injuries of roughly 100 police- and firedepartment people. over 300 people got arrested. there were ambushs for firefighters, where they were led to eg. a burning bus and when approaching, they got surrounded by people shooting at them and robbing the equipment from the truck. they had to retreat and let the bus burn
19:06:11 <Ysjoelfir> next day, several politicians were stating that we now finally MUST completely ban private gun possession as well as generally observe everyone who has right tendencies, so we need to have a general video surveilance everywhere, and also, we need to ban fireworks for private use completely.
19:06:51 <K> there was some news about firefighthers being attacked in our media
19:07:07 <K> alongside 970 burnt cars in Paris
19:08:38 <Ysjoelfir> but there were some statements from prople from berlin, some firefighters that got attacked and from police representatives, that all stated, that it was clearly young prople that were definitely not german citicens. this part of the interviews were cut out by media. that firefighter guy was even turkish himself and came from a migrant family in the 70s, said he is ashamed of the other "modern" migrants who come to abuse the system and
19:08:38 <Ysjoelfir> wreak havoc. nobody heard that, before some whistleblower aired the full length interview
19:09:32 <Ysjoelfir> police records show, that from the 300 people that were arrested, roughly 50% didn't even have a german passport. ALL were let go because the jurisdiction stated, that "there is not enough evidence" to go after them.
19:11:18 <Ysjoelfir> a spokesperson from the polices union said, that a ban of private fireworks and firearms is stupid, as these people were neither using legal weapons, nor is is of any help to restrict having fun once a year for everyone. he has ben put down from the union.
19:12:16 <T3sl4> sounds about right
19:12:44 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, those two views are basically the same, right? :D
19:14:29 <Ysjoelfir> meanwhile, over christmas, our government started bringing a a thing to existance called the... lets try to translate that..... "democracy enhancement law", that basically allows the government to ban everythign that is "not in the benefit of democracy". And the nice thing about that is, that its not neccessary to go through the parliment for decisions done based on that, it can be decided by the governmental parties alone and without any
19:14:30 <Ysjoelfir> checking. THAT sounds a bit strange to me, especially since one party, that tries to speak for the people and not for corporations, gets stronger and stronger the last years. they had some very right problems at the beginning, but were sorging that out and get now even more popular.
19:15:22 <Ysjoelfir> I have to admit, I feel a bit uneasy about all that.
19:15:46 <Ysjoelfir> And I would love to hear neutral statements from you guys that are not directly affected by that.
19:17:04 <Halcyon> Unfortunately, governments are required to make some hard decisions on behalf of the people
19:17:39 <Halcyon> Not everything can go to a vote. Imagine if something is extremely clever but only 15% of the population was smart enough (which seems the way today)
19:18:10 <Halcyon> As the years go by, I'm thinking more and more people are incapable of making good decisions. They are simply retarded.
19:20:59 <Ysjoelfir> yes, absolutely correct. But do you think, that a law that enables the government to basically define anything as "against democracy" without any neutral checking, is.... democratic?
19:22:23 <Halcyon> Well yes and no
19:22:40 <Halcyon> It's all a balance.
19:22:46 <Halcyon> How would YOU run a country?
19:23:13 <K> lots more spank
19:24:19 <Ysjoelfir> per the definitions written in that paper it would even be possible to define the party of ex chancelor Merkel to be "anti democratic", and thatfor banning it, as the definitions basically are (colloquially speaking): "The ruling government represents the democratic view of the people. Things that go against the democratic order are forbidden and need to be removed". and that would - for my understanding - mean, that opposing parties are by
19:24:19 <Ysjoelfir> law illegal. that can't be right? but I am not the only one sceptical about this :D
19:25:04 <Ysjoelfir> and I would not run a country, as I am not smart enough to do so. But if I would, I would at the very first make it a rule, that the ministers actually have Knowledge of the fields they represent. that should help quite a bit to start with.
19:25:24 <K> that sounds really weird yeah
19:25:54 <K> is it signed into the law or just debating?
19:26:57 <Ysjoelfir> wednesday the government wanted to sign it, but ex-merkels party managed to stop it barely.
19:27:25 <Ysjoelfir> well, and the right-is wing party I mentioned before were also very against it of course, but they are rarely mentioned in the media.
19:27:31 <Ysjoelfir> *right-ish
19:29:12 <K> is saidright wing party AfD ?
19:29:41 <Ysjoelfir> si
19:29:59 <K> from the outside they seem like a bunch of lunatics
19:31:23 <K> but it is stragne that afd finds iteself on same side as cdu
19:31:44 <Ysjoelfir> yep. but if you look deeper, thats actually a pretty fascinating party. they started out when Merkel had her "everyone is welcome!" thing going on, to suit people that were scared that migrants could steal their work (and other things). they were... moderately successfull with that. over time they split into two parts, the ultra right, and the more moderate middle-right part. the ultra right got mostly kicked out nowadays, but there are
19:31:45 <Ysjoelfir> still fragments of that remaining.
19:32:35 <Ysjoelfir> when corona struck they also sympathised with the people that were against vaccination and the restrictions, because.... well, thats what right parties do. so than they got called from the media to be lunatics that are against science and bla.
19:33:40 <Ysjoelfir> now we are at a situation where EVERY single speech of those guys in the parliment gets disturbed A LOT while the head of parliment doesn't give a fuck, and every party is like mocking them to oblivion. strangely enough though, they get stronger and stronger and stronger every vote period.
19:34:17 <K> strange times.
19:34:29 <Ysjoelfir> true. but I can somehow see why that is.
19:36:16 <Ysjoelfir> they had a bad start with the anti migrant thing, though I can understand that people were scared. and - obviously - the fear is not completely pointless, judged by the silvester thing. but they went WAY too far with that. now they have the image of Nazi party 2.0 and everyone "officially" hates them, but votes for them either way, because they are the only party, that doesn't just do the same shit as the other parties do, which is, make
19:36:16 <Ysjoelfir> themselves richer every day while don't giving a fuck about the working class
19:37:20 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ws0QtAiiXQ
19:37:20 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Still Waiting - Jazz Emu | 3m 24s | Channel: Jazz Emu | 842,754 views | 2022-06-16 - 12:45:11UTC
19:39:44 <Ysjoelfir> they should play that in parliment. would make things more smooooth
19:40:54 <Halcyon> It's catchy
19:41:06 <Ysjoelfir> indeed, i like it
19:49:16 <Halcyon> Someone made a quite good instrumental version of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLbOjYVM3h8
19:49:17 <EEVBot> [YouTube] Still Waiting - Jazz Emu (Unofficial Instrumental) | 3m 25s | Channel: EntityNotFound | 947 views | 2022-07-05 - 03:00:24UTC
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19:50:56 <watcher> Hello obscure New sealand fish dish
19:51:12 <Halcyon> Hello prawn crackers
19:51:58 <Ysjoelfir> that instrumental version is nice as well
19:51:59 <Ysjoelfir> and
19:52:00 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon
19:52:03 <Ysjoelfir> it arrived o.o
19:52:04 <Halcyon> Mmmm
19:52:08 <Halcyon> WHAT
19:52:10 <Halcyon> Just now?
19:52:14 <Ysjoelfir> yes
19:52:16 <Halcyon> \o/
19:52:16 <EEVBot> |
19:52:17 <EEVBot> / >
19:52:22 <Ysjoelfir> from shanghai to germany in.... let me calculate.
19:52:24 <Halcyon> Toys!
19:52:32 <watcher> Live unboxing \o/
19:52:39 <Halcyon> Yes!
19:52:59 <Ysjoelfir> 82 hours and 52 minutes
19:53:02 <Halcyon> Private stream for us
19:53:28 <Ysjoelfir> that is... from the moment ordering to me having it in my greedy hands.
19:53:39 <Halcyon> That's good
19:53:51 <Ysjoelfir> and that includes a weekend
19:53:51 <watcher> Ysjoelfir send the url for the private stream
19:54:05 <Ysjoelfir> I have to set up an onlyfans account first, watcher
19:54:19 <Halcyon> I'll wait...
19:54:39 <watcher> You can do it also with YouTube or some rando other site like zoom
19:54:48 <Halcyon> Or the Discords
19:55:01 <watcher> yes the Discords is also a option
19:55:33 <Ysjoelfir> I am technically at work, so you have to wait for the evening xD
19:56:04 <watcher> How late than I can make sure I am online.
19:59:09 <steve30> Absolute Radio are saying "We won't be broadcasting on AM or Medium Wave from 20th January"
19:59:17 <Halcyon> He has probably opened the box already
19:59:55 <watcher> than there is no real unboxing stream left for us :-(
20:00:23 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bBiXxl3Kik
20:00:23 <EEVBot> [YouTube] -38 Degree Insulated Tent Camping | 25m 1s | Channel: Steve Wallis | 1,146,345 views | 2022-12-22 - 23:06:39UTC
20:00:27 <Ysjoelfir> Nope, it sits here, sealed at my side, staring at me
20:00:30 <Halcyon> I could not think of anything worse
20:00:52 <watcher> I need to go. Will try to comeback in the evening. See you later random guys on irc
20:00:57 Quit: watcher ([email protected]) Quit: I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder.
20:00:58 <Ysjoelfir> steve30, thats unfortunate. I think all AM based stations are shut down in germany for years
20:01:07 <Ysjoelfir> I always liked playing with it
20:01:53 <Halcyon> Most AM stations here are on DAB+
20:02:10 <Halcyon> But lots and lots of older cars don't have that, so I don't see them shutting down anytime soon
20:07:55 <steve30> Do you have any Long Wave there?
20:08:29 <K> what did you get, Ysjoelfir ?
20:08:49 <T3sl4> steve30, is that a slower tempo variety of bossa nova?
20:09:18 <Ysjoelfir> K - a Ratta Supernote A5X
20:12:12 <K> ah. nice
20:15:32 <Halcyon> We have 531 to 1647 kHz steve30
20:17:09 * steve30 fires some valve-powered 198kHz at Halcyon
20:17:20 * Halcyon buzzes
20:18:57 <steve30> https://nitter.kavin.rocks/pic/orig/media/Fl37h1LWAAEb88R.jpg
20:19:03 <Halcyon> Some of Australia's top rating radio stations are on AM/DAB
20:19:10 <steve30> ^Is that a cine camera at the left hand side of that picture?
20:19:48 <Halcyon> It looks like it, but used as a prop
20:19:53 <Halcyon> They aren't winding the handle
21:36:00 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
21:36:48 <Ampera> Channel spacing in the US is wider than in EU/AU, so we tend to fit our digital radio inside channel gaps
21:37:20 <Ampera> that being said, our digital radio is proprietary, and expensive, so the vast majority of cars (including my brand new 2022 model impreza) don't actually have it
21:37:28 * Halcyon kisses Ampera
21:37:37 <Halcyon> I'm making pork and fennel sausages
21:37:47 <Ampera> AM/FM will never die here. Especially AM. The civil defense importance of it for rural communities is just too important
21:38:10 <Ampera> mmmm
21:38:12 <Ampera> pork
21:38:24 * Halcyon porks Ampera
21:41:16 <steve30> Your AM is in theory better quality than ours
21:41:28 <steve30> I gather some stations over their also do AM stereo, which we have never had
21:41:49 <Halcyon> I think they trialled it here, but it never took off
21:42:06 <Ampera> I'm not sure
21:42:14 <Ampera> I know FM stereo is a thing, but I don't know if AM stereo is at hing
21:42:16 <Halcyon> People who listen to AM don't give a shit about quality, since almost every station is simulcast on digital
21:42:31 <Ampera> that being said, with a good set you can get a fairly good signal out of AM
21:42:56 <steve30> Does anyone here find this creepy?
21:42:56 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCwv5JArUq4
21:42:57 <EEVBot> [YouTube] BBC 2 Optics Ident | 44s | Channel: Jimwoodward1212 | 161,328 views | 2008-09-21 - 18:59:44UTC
21:43:08 <Halcyon> Digital over AM was a thing too, but I believe it was limited to France and maybe a few other places
21:43:26 <Halcyon> Which is a shame because digital audio over HF works really well for the cops/military
21:43:40 <Ampera> steve30, not really
21:43:57 <Ampera> People who listen to AM primarily care about talk/sports
21:44:02 <Halcyon> Steve, not creepy, the audio is a bit annoying
21:44:09 <Ampera> if you want a ball game it's almost certainly on AM
21:44:27 <steve30> I quite like it now, but its one of those things which, when you are little, seems rather creepy when it comes on the TV at night.
21:44:27 * Halcyon balls Ampera
21:44:54 <Ampera> I have fond memories listening to FM radio as a kid. I'd always have it on at night before going to sleep
21:46:09 <Ampera> I kinda thing digital radio will never be a big thing here. Anyone who wants something better than AM/FM is using streaming services off their cellphones
21:46:20 <Ampera> which will pretty much always beat out radio
21:47:27 <Halcyon> Ampera, more or less the same here. People switched to MP3/internet radio/Spotify/whatever long ago
21:48:02 <Halcyon> DAB+ promised better quality, but in some cases, the digital compression is more irritating than FM interferrence
21:48:13 * steve30 fires some low bitrate MP2 at Ampera
21:48:54 <Halcyon> I think DAD is AAC
21:49:01 <Ampera> I actually use VLC in my car over Android Auto. It has my entire music collection on my phone in opus codec
21:49:05 <Ampera> with a few tracks in FLAC
21:49:10 <Halcyon> But still, companies try to squeeze some channels down to 32 Kbps
21:49:18 <Halcyon> Which..... yeh.... sounds garbage
21:49:34 <Halcyon> *DAB
21:50:04 <Ampera> FM doesn't really sound bad is the thing
21:50:20 <Ampera> I don't notice I'm listening to it really
21:51:01 <Halcyon> Nah it's not too bad. I mean it's missing *something*, but still, for the most part it's decent.
21:51:36 <Ampera> I kinda disagree
21:51:41 <Ampera> like
21:51:58 <Ampera> it's hard to explain the sentiment, but I think in the US there's also sort of a nostalgiac appreciation for AM/FM radio
21:52:01 <Halcyon> I find the real low end is muted somewhat
21:52:17 <Ampera> while analog TV's come and gone, and almost every real form of media since the 70's has turned over, AM/FM has always been there
21:52:33 <Ampera> so yes, empirically, the quality is inferior, but subjectively, most people intentionally appreciate that
21:52:47 <Halcyon> Yeh but you and I aren't "most people"
21:52:54 <Ampera> I am most people in this case
21:53:03 <Ampera> I appreciate AM/FM, and prefer it over a digital solution
21:53:10 <Halcyon> "Most people" can't hear the difference between MP3 and other (better) codecs
21:53:21 <Ampera> honestly I rarely can
21:53:44 <Ampera> but I have almost never used MP3
21:53:58 <Ampera> also also, digital lossy is different to analog lossy
21:54:23 <Halcyon> Very true. It is
21:54:27 <Ampera> the frequency response and dynamic range fall off pretty evenly under AM/FM, whereas in digital, you tend to lose parts of the signal you listen to itself
21:54:52 <Halcyon> I mean AM is out the window. All fidelity is gone.
21:54:56 <Ampera> I think there's just something special, especially when camping, about tuning an analog radio, and trying to catch that small little bit of signal in the air
21:55:01 <Halcyon> It's designed for speech and even that sounds poo
21:55:30 <Ampera> and despite being out in the middle of nowhere, where cell towers can't reach you, being able to still pick up that one way voice and sound coming to you
21:55:32 <Ampera> I disagree
21:55:47 <Ampera> if you think AM sounds that bad, you're either doing it wrong, or your country has somehow fucked up transmitting it
21:56:03 <Halcyon> I find the opposite here. AM stations drop out long before cellular reception does
21:56:06 <Ampera> AM really doesn't sound /that/ bad. It's not HiFi, but even music can sound okay on it
21:56:22 <Ampera> AM and SW stations are the lowest common denominator
21:56:42 <Ampera> which is why I say they will never shut down, not for decades, because they're /always/ the way the government has to contact people in an emergency
21:57:17 <Ampera> AM/FM radios are cheap to the point where basically everyone has one, and in a natural disaster or prolonged power outage, they're just the fallback
21:57:37 <Halcyon> I guess.
21:57:49 <Halcyon> Although the only radio reciever I have is in my cr
21:57:51 <Halcyon> *car
21:58:08 <Halcyon> I don't have one in the house. Haven't for about 20 years.
21:58:09 <Ampera> my only other receiver is a cheap, but decent world band AM/FM/SW1-10 receiver
21:58:28 <Ampera> we have a few other things that have radios in it. I have a TV tuner card with an FM radio, and some alarm clocks with radios
21:58:36 <Ampera> and, of course, the car
21:59:48 <Halcyon> The internet is my only real source to the "outside world"
21:59:54 <Ampera> I think there's a certain liminal space in America. It's late at night, you're in some old GM thing from the 80's 90's, with the glow of a neon green VFD dash in your face, with the red sox (or insert favorite team here) coming through in the country trying to win a game
22:02:56 <Ampera> anyways I think I need some tea
22:03:21 <Halcyon> I've never been far out enough where phones haven't worked (at least intermittently)
22:03:43 <Halcyon> But you can go to your local police station here and borrow an EPIRB if you need
22:09:07 <Ampera> It used to be far more common. I honestly don't think that phones reached true ubiquity until around 6-ish years ago
22:09:12 <Ampera> I got my first phone with data in 2020
22:09:25 <Ampera> as did basically the rest of my family, because I signed them all up for my plan
22:09:50 <Ampera> for basically all of the 10's, radio was the only real way I had to have access to anything away from home
22:10:31 <Ampera> There's lots of places where there is no cell service, or it's only available on a single carrier. Lots of country not too far from the city here
22:16:16 <MrMobodies> the mobile network in my area isn't great
22:16:41 <MrMobodies> I think there are 3 carriers
22:17:25 <MrMobodies> Three and O2 (same mast), Vodafone and EE
22:17:26 <steve30> Halcyon, what do you use for police radios over there?
22:17:32 <steve30> Its TETRA here
22:19:03 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
22:19:12 <T3sl4> Ampera, https://imgur.com/gallery/tjZNytP
22:19:13 <EEVBot> [url] Goodnight imgur - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
22:20:00 <K> yes.
22:20:49 * T3sl4 apologizes to K, offers some potat-based eyebleach
22:20:58 <T3sl4> potatoes have eyes, so, that makes sense, right?
22:25:06 <K> yes.
22:25:40 * electrohead coffees K's potats
22:25:56 <K> borderline heretical
22:28:36 <Ampera> T3sl4, I saw
22:28:40 <Ampera> it gave me nightmares
22:28:40 <Ampera> <3
22:28:44 <T3sl4> ah, excellent
22:28:50 <Ampera> how are you doing T3sl4co1l
22:29:01 <T3sl4> ε>
22:29:23 <T3sl4> i'm fine. getting a little chilly in here. go figure, it's only the coldest part of the night
22:30:33 <Ampera> hehe
22:30:44 <Ampera> I got a new comforter for christmas. It's nice and warm
22:30:47 * electrohead creates new nightmares for Ampera
22:30:53 <MrMobodies> 4C this morning
22:31:01 <Ampera> that is, if my sleeping self doesn't take if off and then put it under my head as a pillow :P
22:31:15 <Ampera> it's 22F/-6C here
22:31:27 <MrMobodies> any snow yet?
22:31:29 <Ampera> looks like snow this weekend
22:31:56 <Ampera> problem is we're fairly marginal in terms of temperature. Clouds do a very good job of reflecting heat and insulating us
22:32:09 <Ampera> so whenever a storm rolls in, its been heating up the air enough to where it's rain
22:32:16 <Ampera> friday has a high of 49F
22:32:23 <Ampera> with rain
22:32:55 <MrMobodies> I am feeling a little better, my eyes are not as red today
22:33:06 <MrMobodies> I have got conjunctivitis
22:33:25 <MrMobodies> and the whole pub has got it
22:33:40 <MrMobodies> someone there gave me one of his saline water thing
22:33:48 <MrMobodies> Supereyes
22:33:53 <MrMobodies> for contact lenses
22:34:12 <MrMobodies> but from the ingredients it is just saline water
22:34:24 <MrMobodies> I have taken it yet
22:34:30 <MrMobodies> I found this usb hub on ebay
22:34:38 <MrMobodies> maybe it is my perception
22:34:45 <MrMobodies> but it looks really cheap and nasty
22:34:47 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254726391408
22:34:48 <EEVBot> [url] 7Port USB Hub High Speed Multi Splitter Expansion Power Adapter For PC Laptop UK | eBay | www.ebay.co.uk
22:35:21 <MrMobodies> that's really cheap, too cheap for one of those
22:36:02 <MrMobodies> I like the buttons and that but the consturction
22:36:13 <MrMobodies> maybe I should buy one and tear it apart
22:39:09 <T3sl4> MrMobodies: oh that sucks. hope it clears up quickly
22:39:27 <MrMobodies> I am not sure which type it is
22:39:39 <MrMobodies> whether it is bacterial or viral
22:39:54 <MrMobodies> I think it is bacterial linked with the chest infection I had
22:40:05 <MrMobodies> but I have ordered something
22:40:19 <MrMobodies> I do have lots of it but loft this thing to spray
22:40:41 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283908597677?var=585351766089
22:40:42 <EEVBot> [url] Isopropyl Alcohol 99.9% PURE IPA Isopropanol Disinfectant Cleaner,100ml -100L | eBay | www.ebay.co.uk
22:40:48 <MrMobodies> it has a spray lever on it
22:40:57 <MrMobodies> so I can easily spray the handles and light switches
22:41:23 <MrMobodies> my dad gets his hands dirty and I have to clean the handles and fridge
22:41:38 <MrMobodies> I mean with food
22:41:52 <MrMobodies> and I was told that's what could spread it
22:42:06 <MrMobodies> It was frightening some days ago
22:42:22 <MrMobodies> I thought I was getting cataract or some eye disease
22:42:45 <MrMobodies> when I started to see halo (coulored rings around bright lights)
22:42:57 <electrohead> https://i.imgur.com/SUbwZfF.png
22:43:03 <MrMobodies> but when I blinked and pulled down my eyelid it stopped for a few seconds
22:43:14 <MrMobodies> that would be the thick fluid
22:43:47 <MrMobodies> I know someone like that
22:43:55 <MrMobodies> I use to call him "the last minute man"
22:44:13 <MrMobodies> he kept on changing his mind all the time
22:44:30 <MrMobodies> it was in a bathroom company
22:45:21 <MrMobodies> he'll book last minute tickets and cancel them in the last minute
22:45:58 <MrMobodies> just noticed something from that seller selling the usb hubs
22:46:34 <MrMobodies> you know that scam when they "pretend to beat your isp with speeds and buy this plugin thing" usual a lot of money
22:46:36 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262629920650
22:46:37 <EEVBot> [url] WiFi Signal Repeater Extender Range Booster Internet Network Amplifier – UK Plug | eBay | www.ebay.co.uk
22:46:47 <MrMobodies> 4,588 sold
22:46:57 <MrMobodies> Joke: Now I know where they are getting them from
22:47:03 <Halcyon> Those Wifi boosters are garbage
22:48:00 <MrMobodies> £13.70
22:48:30 <MrMobodies> and I the scammers were charging £50 or £60
22:51:36 <MrMobodies> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/wifiblast-as-advertised-on-jedec-smartbrief/
22:51:37 <EEVBot> [url] wifiblast as advertised on JEDEC smartbrief - Page 1 | www.eevblog.com
22:52:45 <electrohead> https://imgur.com/gallery/MYz3X8e
22:52:45 <EEVBot> [url] No, this is for you! - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
22:53:10 <MrMobodies> oh right gone down in price
22:53:11 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/VGY2f6l.png
22:53:18 <MrMobodies> the scammers pricing
22:53:37 <MrMobodies> and you save 50% apparently proclaiming it was £60
22:54:21 <MrMobodies> aaah, when I cabling someone's house
22:54:31 <MrMobodies> where I met a lot of resistance from the family
22:54:36 <MrMobodies> it was at a building firm
22:54:50 <MrMobodies> the man showed one of those wifi adapters
22:54:54 <MrMobodies> palm on face
22:55:10 <MrMobodies> you already have repeaters and powerline adapters
22:55:35 <MrMobodies> and this one you plug in a place where the signal is going to be worse
22:56:01 <MrMobodies> and when the swimming comes on, it use to break up the powerline connection and caused them to hang until reset
22:56:09 <MrMobodies> *swimming pool pump
22:57:06 <MrMobodies> but I put an access point in every room set to low power all cabled up
22:57:39 <MrMobodies> and no complaints after that other than "this is massive overkill! not many people have this... blah blah blah"
22:57:57 <MrMobodies> I said "not everybody have large swimming pools in their back garden"
22:58:14 <MrMobodies> and a house four times the size of a regular
22:58:49 <MrMobodies> oops I mean not many
22:59:30 <MrMobodies> this powerline adapter through I think was a TPlink, the cheapest one they got out of a place called Argod
22:59:35 <MrMobodies> *Argos
22:59:55 <MrMobodies> very small in size
23:00:18 <MrMobodies> but the pump coming on use to make them stop
23:00:32 <MrMobodies> until cycling the power
23:03:01 <MrMobodies> they took out Sky broadband when they moved and was goven this SR102? Sky Hub when they moved.. Before they had BTBusiness and router seemed to have better coverage all the way to their attic
23:04:32 <MrMobodies> I had quite a few arguments with Sky to get an engineer out to reset the line profile after disconnecting the internal extensions and installing an MK3 box
23:05:04 <MrMobodies> 15mbps and went to about 65mps after a line reset
23:05:13 <MrMobodies> the engineer was trying blame my setup
23:05:24 <MrMobodies> reluctantly wanting to do it
23:06:00 <MrMobodies> coming out with all "ooh it's putting too much stress on the broadand" but he changed his tune after it was reset
23:06:52 <MrMobodies> it kept on cutting out before and I traced it the telephone cables, each room had a telephone socket
23:07:02 <electrohead> https://imgur.com/gallery/1Ml5UwG
23:07:02 <EEVBot> [url] Everything is better with googley eyes - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
23:07:04 <MrMobodies> so I suspected interfereance
23:07:38 * Ampera puts googly eyes and fake antlers on electrohead's ass
23:07:44 <Ampera> now just to mount you
23:07:53 <MrMobodies> excellenr i like that milkshake aawww expression
23:29:17 * Halcyon mounts Ampera
23:30:21 <Ampera> <3
23:30:27 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
23:31:09 <Halcyon> I'm good.
23:31:24 <Halcyon> I just cleaned my supplier out of CD-R, CD-RW and DVD-R discs
23:31:59 <Ampera> hahahaha
23:32:15 <Ampera> stocking up for an optical media apocalypse?
23:32:37 <Halcyon> Pretty mich
23:32:40 <Halcyon> *much
23:33:16 <Halcyon> Plus in total, 350 discs cost me $150 delivered. Decent Verbatim ones too.
23:35:07 <Ampera> whaaaaaa
23:35:15 <Ampera> just for 350 in total?
23:35:49 <Ampera> eh
23:35:51 <Ampera> I guess
23:35:55 <Halcyon> That's pretty cheap
23:36:03 <Ampera> 100pk is 22.38USD on amazon for CD-R verbatims
23:36:13 <Ampera> AUD is worthless, so I guess that kinda adds up
23:36:51 <Halcyon> Yeh so I paid AU$28.60 for a pack fo 100 CD-R
23:36:53 <Ampera> 100pk DVD+/-R is same price
23:37:18 <Halcyon> Yeh more or less. BD-R is still expensive. But I have a 50 pack of those unopened anyway
23:37:19 <Ampera> 25pk CD-RW is 14.50
23:38:19 <Halcyon> Mine were $26.50
23:38:22 <Halcyon> So yeah pretty close
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