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00:39 <MrMobodies> Hello
00:48 <Ampera> Hello MrMobodies how are you doing
00:53 <MrMobodies> okay
01:03 <Ampera> Good to hear
01:08 <MrMobodies> feeling better
11:08 <Ampera> Good to hear as well
49:39 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder.... is there a reasonable way to use MS office under linux? background: my misses will start working at my employer. she will only do office stuff. we have roughly 80% windows users that can't open open/libre office files. I need to setup a new system for her and consider, as she is not yet a windows power user, that it might be a good idea to let her learn to work on linux. because..... it might be fun and stuff :D
51:09 <MrMobodies> I thought Libre Office could do it
51:17 <MrMobodies> but very unstable when I last used
51:59 <MrMobodies> oh the other way around
54:11 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, office can open odf files from libreoffice
54:19 <Ampera> and libreoffice can generally make office compatible files
54:32 <Ampera> *msoffice
54:57 <Ampera> unless you have a seriously ancient version of msoffice
55:36 <Ampera> It's been supported since Office 2007 it seems, with Office 2003/XP with an add-in
56:19 <Ysjoelfir> it can. but in roughly 100% of the times I open an OD* file from one of the linux workmate it totally butchers the layout and formatting. not a solution in a productive environment, especially since she will do DOCUMENT MANAGEMENT xD
56:27 <Ampera> and libreoffice's docx/doc output is fairly serviceable. Install ms fonts and then it should be fine
56:51 <K> isn't office365 enough?
56:52 <Ampera> yeah, that's because you're missing fonts
57:25 <Ampera> linux doesn't come with the same fonts Windows does, though I think Windows tends to render most serif/sans fonts off Linux okay-ish.
57:30 <Ampera> Standardize on a font, and install it on all machines
57:54 <Ampera> something like noto-sans is fairly easy to install across machines, and looks fine
57:56 <Ysjoelfir> we have standard fonts and have them installed
58:07 <Ysjoelfir> frutiger IIRC is what we use
58:32 <Ampera> That tends to be the issue. If you have the fonts, then yes, standardizing on software is probably the better idea
58:40 <Ampera> either get the windows people on libreoffice, or get the linux people to use windows.
58:47 <Ampera> or office365
59:02 <K> thre is some web-based apps for ms office too
59:17 <K> not sure how usable it is though, have not used it much
59:51 <Ampera> I'm of the general impression that, outside of a VM, msoffice is a nightmare on Linux. If you use an old version, it may be possible, but just give your SO windows
00:22 <Ampera> In the realm of serious business, there is rarely room or reason for the "fun and stuff". Use what works.
01:38 <K> yeah, not sure how well "track changes" and all that semi-advanced stuff works
02:30 <Ampera> If there is a serious need to use Windows and Linux, then that person either gets two machines, or set up with a VM
02:54 <Ampera> This being said, I am at work, writing code on my linux machine, which has to run on my macbook and my coworker's windows box. Do as I say, not as I do.
03:42 <Ysjoelfir> I wouldn't consider that if there wasn't a deeper idea behind it :D the long term idea would be to have only one OS for everyone. the swiss admin guys suggested to switch to linux, + just using thinclients for the "regular" office people. so I wondered if it would be beneficial to slowly test that out
04:14 <Ampera> Then provisioning two machines sounds like a good idea to me.
04:39 <Ampera> Either that, or commit to changing, and fix the problems by getting the Windows people to use libreoffice
07:35 <Ampera> imo, if this decision is completely up to you, then something has gone wrong in the management process. Consult other people and determine what people actually want to do.
08:21 <Ampera> Dropping windows will probably save money, but you need to weigh that against the expense of lost productivity and the time spent dealing with Linux-specific problems, and actually transitioning people over.
11:32 <Ysjoelfir> weeeeell.... lets say it like that: a lot of decisions here are not up to anyone, as long as nobody "grabs" it. we have lost a lot of people in the past years and the ones that remain are completely overburdened, so I try to help them where I can, which sadly (?) leads to a situation, that I became kind of a.... problem-solver/everything-manager.
14:49 <Ampera> Surely you have some form of management which says yes/no to your decisions
15:06 <Ampera> even if that's just your boss who hears your ideas out, and y/n's it
16:31 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
17:09 <Ysjoelfir> but from the "we want that, how can we do it?" point of view, it comes down to my ideas quire a bit
17:17 <Ysjoelfir> strangley enough, after just 5 months
19:11 <Ampera> Sure, but that's when you do cost analysis, form a plan, get a budget, and implement
19:25 <Ampera> even if that budget is simply your time, and machines you already own
24:05 <Ysjoelfir> yep. I know that process. but that won't work here, sadly
24:37 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
24:58 <Ampera> The process here is keep pushing for shit until you're fired or they give you what you want :D
25:18 <Ysjoelfir> xD
26:45 <Ampera> I work for a big company. There is no such thing as just letting the new guy deal with it.
27:05 <Ysjoelfir> we were once a big company. now we are roughly 20
27:17 <Ysjoelfir> 11 here, 8 in switzerland
27:53 <Ampera> woah
28:01 <Ampera> We've got thousands of people.
32:48 <Ysjoelfir> well, ok, big compared to most
33:04 <Ysjoelfir> like, a few hundred
35:16 <K> Ysjoelfir, do you really want to get into weeds of day-to-day office IT ?
52:10 <Ysjoelfir> nope
52:20 <Ysjoelfir> I did that once, for a year. no thanks, not again
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57:44 <K> murderbot!
59:29 <Ampera> <3
59:29 * EEVBot fills Ampera with liquid lovins
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13:58 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o steve30
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17:00 <watcher> hello
17:38 <steve30> hi
22:59 * K watches
46:42 Quit: watcher ([email protected]) EOF from client
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13:13 * Ysjoelfir serves milk soup with flour balls to electrohead
13:40 <LordGeir> rust0: You got enough snow around your part?
14:07 <rust0> uh, if you need some, you can come and grab a littl ebit
14:22 <LordGeir> Ysjoelfir: Komle?
14:52 <LordGeir> I just removed enough around my house to fill..... Anything really
14:58 <Ysjoelfir> who?
15:00 <LordGeir> I DON'T LIKE SNOW
15:07 <rust0> snow is nice
15:08 <Ysjoelfir> I do. send it over
15:25 <LordGeir> The dish you described is called Komle or something over here
15:27 <rust0> on saturday, I might have enough to make an igloo
15:34 <Ysjoelfir> ah, nice!
15:42 <rust0> hmm, I guess it would be similar to that
15:46 <Ysjoelfir> rust0 will try it out soon, maybe he wants to invite you
16:15 <rust0> nah, the geir is still angry. but maybe later
16:30 <Ysjoelfir> maybe you can convince mrs. wife to make Rømmegrøt to accompany that. the geir will be happy as fuck than
16:43 <rust0> eeeh heh yes
17:32 <LordGeir> Saturday is said to start raining again :S
17:49 <rust0> yep, but it keeps changing every 3 minutes, so...
18:16 <rust0> some say saturday, some say next week... some are clever, and shut up about it
19:10 <LordGeir> The only forecast I trust and believe in, is my vision when I go outside in the morning with my coffee for a smoke
19:53 <rust0> it was pretty slippery on e18 today. even going just 55-60, I lost traction, and that was past skolmar, so it is super flat
20:24 <rust0> this is why I like to use windows
20:39 <LordGeir> Crap!! I have to pass Skolmar tomorrow :(
20:48 <rust0> woohoo!
21:22 <rust0> I wonder if they invented a new type of salt again, made out of water diesel and grease
21:32 <rust0> or something similar
22:44 <rust0> old road was ok, maybe try that, if it seems a bit weird
24:35 <rust0> well, I guess I have to go outside, and see if I will scoop away some more snow, so I can do that again tomorrow... or... fix a sn�rrfryser and see if one of those will work
25:07 <rust0> I think I will have a look at that small cotech one. it is pretty neat
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35:14 <rust0> https://youtu.be/NLkMlZch0Ks
35:14 <EEVBot> [url] Crane Handler Blocks The Sun On Purpose - YouTube | youtu.be
30:58 <Halcyon> Morning after dinner mints
32:53 <steve30> hi Halcyon
33:05 <steve30> I was just learning about penises in the Afternet channel
43:31 <electrohead> o/
44:56 <steve30> \o
51:31 <Halcyon> "learning about" Steve?
51:39 <Halcyon> Hey electrohead, how you feeling? Sorry to keep you up so late.
51:58 <electrohead> Honestly, like complete shit
52:10 <electrohead> Then again, I think it was going to be a bad day from the start
52:16 <electrohead> I was quite manic last night, so .. eh
52:19 * electrohead shrugs
52:19 <EEVBot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
52:28 * electrohead stabs his own bot
52:51 <Halcyon> Well we got alot done electrohead
53:38 <electrohead> Oh for sure, and it feels good lol
54:01 <Halcyon> I'm just doing a test upload, still pretty slow at 1.2-1.4 MB/sec
54:05 <Halcyon> Not sure why
54:21 <Halcyon> Should be able to get close to the full 100 Mbps
54:46 <electrohead> Well you're on the other side of the world :p
54:59 <Halcyon> Shouldn't matter
55:04 <Halcyon> We both have decent link speeds
55:57 <Halcyon> I'd actually be curious as to how much faster Wireguard is... or using a different cypher. But the thing is, our CPUs aren't being pegged, so I don't know where the bottleneck is
56:26 <electrohead> "the internet"
56:28 <electrohead> Lol
57:32 <Halcyon> Hahah that's not acceptable to me
58:19 <electrohead> Yeah I'm just saying stuff
58:27 <Halcyon> I wonder if there is an MTU mismatch or something
58:50 <electrohead> We shall look into this another time
59:04 <Halcyon> Yeh I know, when you are more rested
59:09 <electrohead> Tonight I'm taking a load off, having one or two beers, and going to bed no later than .. 9 or 10
59:24 <electrohead> Besides, you have work to do :p
59:37 <Halcyon> The other thing is, I wonder if your ISP is doing some kind of throttling?
03:22 <electrohead> I have no idea
03:30 <electrohead> We will definitely investigate
03:30 <Halcyon> But yeh, it's about 10x slower than it should be. I'll do some homework
05:46 <Halcyon> Our latency is about bang-on as good as it'll get between Sydney and your place: https://wondernetwork.com/pings/Sydney/Charlotte
06:25 <electrohead> oh wow, interesting
06:32 <electrohead> hell yeah :D
06:34 <electrohead> also - https://old.reddit.com/r/yesyesyesyesno/comments/103a8k9/snowboard_beginner_on_the_ski_lift/
06:36 <EEVBot> [reddit] Snowboard beginner on the ski lift (https://v.redd.it/bv1233azf2aa1) to r/yesyesyesyesno | 6999 points (98.0%) | 411 comments | Posted by auge2 | Created at 2023-01-04 - 13:01:39EST
06:58 <electrohead> we totally need to get DNS working, as well
07:03 <Halcyon> I'm actually going to adjust the values in the routing section to be anything above 250 ms is considered a warning
10:21 <Halcyon> But yeh, even our 204-205 ms we get now is below the average for that distance, so pretty good.
11:41 <steve30> Halcyon,
11:42 <steve30> <Okie> the penis is actually not a muscle
11:42 * EEVBot fills steve30 with liquid lovins
11:42 <steve30> <steve30> oh, what is it then?
11:42 <steve30> <Okie> it is technically "spongy tissue".
11:42 * EEVBot loves all over steve30
11:43 * EEVBot stabs steve30 with a stick, hollows them out, and fills them with love
12:02 <Halcyon> Bahahah
12:19 * steve30 penises EEVBot 
12:32 <Halcyon> Does the bot trigger on the word penis ?
13:50 <steve30> maybe it likes Halcyon's spongy tissue
13:58 <Halcyon> :)
15:22 <electrohead> uhh
15:27 <electrohead> ok so that regex is completely broke
15:31 <electrohead> let me fix that quick
15:34 <Halcyon> Hahaha
15:45 <electrohead> at first I accepted it, and I liked it
15:48 <electrohead> as of now, it's annoying
17:39 <electrohead> <3
17:39 * EEVBot fills electrohead with liquid lovins
17:49 * T3sl4 gives electrohead some https://i.redd.it/5w16zhtui1aa1.jpg 
17:51 <EEVBot> [reddit] You want shitty food porn? You got it. to r/shittyfoodporn | 2065 points (96.0%) | 211 comments | Posted by alan13446 | Created at 2023-01-04 - 08:55:21CST | https://redd.it/1035k1u
18:01 <electrohead> uhh, the update without restarting didn't work, lol
18:01 <Halcyon> "Bungs" ?
18:12 * electrohead bungs T3sl4
18:35 Quit: EEVBot ([email protected]) Quit: Closing
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18:49 <Halcyon> I really want crispy pork belly now
18:54 Mode: (by ChanOP) +v EEVBot
18:56 <electrohead> <3
18:58 <steve30> <3
19:03 <electrohead> there we go
19:17 <Halcyon> I need to pewp
19:20 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon and steve30 and electrohead 
19:26 <Halcyon> YAY Hugs!
19:27 <T3sl4> Halcyon: that's using your bunghole!
19:29 * electrohead hugs T3sl4
19:40 <electrohead> you are now cornholio \m/
19:52 * T3sl4 TPs
20:42 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-RjkfDnuLg
20:42 <EEVBot> [YouTube] ⁨This one is not for the faint of heart, it's Beef Tendon Sausage⁩ | 5m 12s | Channel: ⁨Ordinary Sausage⁩ | 101,584 views | 2023-01-03 - 17:15:00UTC
21:15 <T3sl4> that would still be ok slowcooked for about 8 hours
22:07 <arch> T3sl4, i've yoinked your delayed fan start section. was able to remember it from memory and slack around at work a bit :D
23:15 <T3sl4> simple enough
23:29 <arch> not for an ape like me
24:05 <arch> going to put it on breadboard sometime soon
24:09 <arch> just to see it in person
27:00 <T3sl4> transistors have many doors, arch my boy
28:10 <electrohead> "it's like chewing an ear"
30:29 <arch> https://i.imgflip.com/76dk58.jpg
38:21 <T3sl4> :)
50:28 * jaymax closes the side gate and is utterly shocked.
55:43 <T3sl4> "Al Dante" https://i.imgur.com/KUkLR4p.jpeg
57:51 <arch> T3sl4, https://i.redd.it/74f8xdgk9yxz.jpg
57:52 <EEVBot> [reddit] Pasta la vista to r/memes | 564 points (93.0%) | 16 comments | Posted by Kuda__ | Created at 2017-11-14 - 14:19:42UTC | https://redd.it/7cvvh4
03:43 <steve30> apparently today is my birthday
03:53 <Ampera> happy birthday
03:55 <T3sl4> !coffeecake steve30
03:56 <arch> happy roundtrip around the sun!
04:17 <arch> this calls for a celebratory fart
04:19 <arch> !fart steve30
04:19 * EEVBot stopped trusting a fart, and messed all over steve30
04:37 <steve30> !shower
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17:25 <jaymax> !poop
17:40 Quit: Erlend-SE ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
25:57 <arch> jaymax, https://i.imgur.com/LCfgbJc.jpg
26:46 <jaymax> But why pitch it? Shower has a drain.
27:16 <jaymax> Might need to push it down, tho.
31:20 * jaymax offers the birthday steve30 a igloo cushion.
32:44 <jaymax> This one. https://canadiantire.scene7.com/is/image/CanadianTire/1424961_1?defaultImage=image_na_EN&fmt=jpg&fit=constrain,1&wid=573&hei=499
36:19 <steve30> meow
36:36 <steve30> its a bit difficult to get poop down the plughole
36:49 <steve30> but i'm sure thats easier than throwing it over to the toilet
53:01 <T3sl4> all hail hypnofungus https://www.reddit.com/r/mycology/comments/100q0lo/tree_toad/ ...er, wait
53:01 <EEVBot> [reddit] Tree toad ('identified' flair) (https://i.redd.it/pa6ulthipi9a1.jpg) to r/mycology | 1266 points (99.0%) | 11 comments | Posted by bernalbaby | Created at 2023-01-01 - 12:38:30CST
12:22 <steve30> https://radiotoday.co.uk/2023/01/04/absolute-radio-to-switch-off-all-am-transmitters-across-the-uk/
12:23 <EEVBot> [url] Absolute Radio to switch off all AM transmitters across the UK – RadioToday | radiotoday.co.uk
13:04 <steve30> Interesting. Hardly anyone advertises MW frequencies any more, but not many stations have been turned off.
13:52 * Halcyon hugs steve30 
21:51 <jaymax> Dear Louisiana, just go to Reddit. You're welcome. Sincerely, the world. https://mashable.com/article/pornhub-louisiana-id
21:52 <EEVBot> [url] Pornhub users in Louisiana now have to submit government ID to access the site | Mashable | mashable.com
27:54 <arch> well, now they can finally discover the wonderful world of tentacle hentai
28:06 * arch stuffs a tentacle in Ampera's mouth
28:19 <Ampera> I'm not that kind of anime girl, arch
44:38 <steve30> !coffee
44:38 * EEVBot throws screaming hot coffee at steve30
44:51 <Ampera> hello steve30 how are you doing
49:54 <steve30> pondering coffee
02:36 <Halcyon> That's a bit fucked jaymax
02:53 <Halcyon> No one should have to submit *any* information about themselves for sites like that
04:38 <jaymax> Especially when Reddit is under 1/3 porno (though probably not by much) and those sumitters give it away for free. No account, no carding.
05:18 <Halcyon> Even if it was 100% porn, it shouldn't matter
05:27 <jaymax> ^
05:52 <Halcyon> What people do online is not a concern for anyone but the consumer, unless it strays into illegal territory. Then all bets are off at that stage.
05:59 Quit: weissbier1 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
06:17 <jaymax> It's just easier to subvert to prove a pointless law than be out with pitchforks.
06:24 <steve30> Won't somebody /PLEASE/ think of the children...
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06:32 <jaymax> No thanks.
06:34 <jaymax> LOL
06:37 <Halcyon> Hahahaha
07:14 <Halcyon> Kids are going to access innappropriate material regardless of what anyone does
08:03 <Halcyon> Ordinarily I'd say, let the parents do the parenting, but this last generation of parents are proving they are as retarded as the kids.
09:14 <Halcyon> I feel after I die, subsequent generations will probably be watering their crops with gatorade
10:15 <jaymax> Like how the "progressive" parents source a joint instead of hazard their kid buy pot off the street, it should be common for parents to nudge to Gonewild insstead of taking to chance the BDSM or incest porn or whatever TF is popular on pornhub.
11:40 <jaymax> Halcyon: yeah most parents screaming about schools past two/six years weren't paying attention to anything until the guy they hated came to power.
12:09 <jaymax> They had only discovered what's been going on for decades.
18:47 <electrohead> !canada
18:53 <electrohead> oh look, jaymax is here
19:14 * jaymax hides
19:23 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/HHzKDWE
19:23 <EEVBot> [url] Slow mlem - Album on Imgur | imgur.com
19:25 <jaymax> oh wait
19:29 <jaymax> \o_
19:29 <EEVBot> |
19:29 <EEVBot> \ /
19:36 * jaymax swaddles
20:15 * T3sl4 tans jaymax's hide
21:21 * jaymax gets vitilago
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22:35 <steve30> aww
22:38 <steve30> kitty :)
22:52 <jaymax> Good kitty
23:00 * T3sl4 scritches steve30
24:02 * jaymax untangles steve30's coat because he sure as shit cannot get away with that on his own damn cat.
24:31 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
25:47 <jaymax> He does the viper move but he's a bit chonky so he rarely locks on target.
26:19 <T3sl4> i think untangling steve30's coates might not be so friendly an act
27:55 Nick: Halcyon_ is now known as Halcyon
27:58 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
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28:14 * T3sl4 wraps the coat around Halcyon
29:19 <Halcyon> Which coat?
29:55 * jaymax tosses some loose hairballs onto Halcyon for good measure
30:13 <Halcyon> Ew
31:10 <jaymax> https://files.maxuel.compy.ca:5281/upload/YqLZAx7KAuuvkZVt/LhVY7_haSjK9aJnXzFJ-Eg.jpg
31:22 <jaymax> > Which coat?
31:22 <jaymax> This coat ^
31:43 <T3sl4> that's a fuzzy butt
31:47 <steve30> It sucks that us humans don't have cosy fur
31:53 <electrohead> cat butt
32:06 * steve30 youtubes
32:32 <electrohead> !ud ass pussy
32:32 <EEVBot> [urban] ass pussy - noun - when the [anal cavity] gets [overused] for [intercourse] that it becomes as loose as a pussy
32:33 <jaymax> https://files.maxuel.compy.ca:5281/upload/km3Xx3f7No6rwW2c/3fA369whS326W59mbPQ1fg.jpg
33:03 <electrohead> oh no
33:12 <electrohead> great, now that's stuck in IRC history
33:18 <steve30> lol
33:45 * T3sl4 buttplugs electrohead, makes Halcyon film
35:03 <jaymax> !ud meathole
35:03 <EEVBot> [urban] meathole - The [gaping hole] left in an orifice following the withdrawal of a penis or implement after intercourse occasioning [dilation].cf [Chocolate Meathole]
36:25 <jaymax> !ud painter
36:25 <EEVBot> [urban] painter - A skilled craftsman who applies paint and other liquid coatings to prepared surfaces.Wears white [painter's] pants and a white shirt to work.Usually travels in a white [cargo van] with ladders mounted on a rack on top of the van.There are 3 levels of painter:House painter, Commercial painter, Industrial painter.House painter is the most common, usually an independant […]
36:27 <steve30> do i really want to know that?
36:40 <jaymax> Lame
36:49 <T3sl4> !ud cleveland steamer
36:49 <EEVBot> [urban] cleveland steamer - [to take a shit] on your partners chest [after sex]. its more of a [fetish] thing.
37:48 <jaymax> Why did UD go all Mormon with "painter"?
37:56 <jaymax> !ud painting
37:56 <EEVBot> [urban] painting - sexual term used by gay men to describe [the painting](shitting) on a penis....usually when a bottom is not [cleansed] or the penis goes in [too deep].
38:42 <jaymax> Also incorect but(t) points for crass.
38:56 <electrohead> o.o
39:03 <electrohead> what did I start ...
39:06 <electrohead> my apologies.
40:10 <jaymax> FYI: A painter is what senile old people do when they are constipated. Disimpact, then play art class.
40:51 <jaymax> !kym the more you know
42:11 <Halcyon> Hahahha
42:20 <Halcyon> !ud eshay
42:20 <EEVBot> [urban] eshay - Australian adolescents/young adults who think that they are top shit, always buying expensive shoes and clothes with their [centrelink] payouts. They are always buying drugs and stealing from people to support buying drugs when their pay runs out. The last few [days of the week] before check day are hard for an eshay because they have already spent all their centrelink on shoes […]
43:17 <jaymax> Is that a gendered term?
43:43 <Halcyon> Nah
44:03 <Halcyon> But they are usually 14 year olds who act tough but if you talk back to them, they crumble. It's hilarious.
44:10 <jaymax> America has scrubs/pigeons depending on the song - nice to have a gender-neutral one.
44:54 <Halcyon> They also think it's "cool" to smoke... pity they are about 40 years behind
45:00 <Halcyon> Hardly anyone smokes anymore
45:44 <jaymax> Do they vape cloves instead?
47:28 <jaymax> Hey remember the vape-induced pneumonia crisis of 2019? Kinda disappeared entirely, like some other lung issue overtook the conversation.
48:01 <jaymax> OH MY GOD...
48:01 <jaymax> ...they made a movie called "Scoob".
48:09 <Halcyon> ?
49:01 <steve30> Smoking was popular when i was at school
49:37 <electrohead> a cig sounds good, actually. brb, going outside to be cool
49:46 <jaymax> Halcyon: It's a Sam o'Nella Academy reference. He came out of hiding briefly, BTW.
50:18 <Halcyon> Hahah
50:24 <electrohead> jaymax: did you see this earlier? https://old.reddit.com/r/yesyesyesyesno/comments/103a8k9/snowboard_beginner_on_the_ski_lift/
50:27 <EEVBot> [reddit] Snowboard beginner on the ski lift (https://v.redd.it/bv1233azf2aa1) to r/yesyesyesyesno | 21573 points (97.0%) | 1133 comments | Posted by auge2 | Created at 2023-01-04 - 13:01:39EST
05:05 <jaymax> Way to get barred
07:48 <jaymax> Also, if that was German laughter I now understand why schadenfreude exists in the language it does.
08:24 <jaymax> s/exists/originates/
08:25 <EEVBot> jaymax meant to say: Also, if that was German laughter I now understand why schadenfreude originates in the language it does.
10:27 <electrohead> heh, yeah I laughed quite some at that
16:22 * arch uses electrohead as a snowboard
16:53 <arch> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4aCvCzTxtE4/maxresdefault.jpg
17:03 <electrohead> please grind my face away
17:54 <T3sl4> electrohead: https://i.imgur.com/Aq82qtR.jpg
18:22 <electrohead> I mean, please shove an apple down my throat with force
19:42 <Halcyon> Don't give Ampera ideas for "sports"
20:36 <T3sl4> watersports, snowsports, it's all good
22:51 <electrohead> !giphy grind my face away
22:52 <EEVBot> electrohead: https://media2.giphy.com/media/d31vhq2TNkEVAHCM/giphy.gif?cid=28c3c3c878e9ba8d473d997845b9e9309afa47b06c3c5f14&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
23:05 <electrohead> lol..
23:11 <electrohead> I'm off to bed, laters
24:21 <Halcyon> Cya mate
50:22 <T3sl4> Ampera, https://i.imgur.com/x3m9TkL.png
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19:20 <Halcyon> Evening granolas
31:54 <Ysjoelfir> morning, peoples
47:19 <Halcyon> So many birds came for a snack just then. 2 Kookaburras, 3 Currawongs, 1 Magpie, 4 Cockatoos and 1 King Parrot
00:01 <K> hello pom-poms
30:07 <Halcyon> Hello K
30:29 <K> (yells at the fucking snow, again)
31:07 <Halcyon> Stupid Smarch weather
47:17 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXKwdvSBQk4
47:17 <EEVBot> [YouTube] ⁨This German Gym uses Exercise Bikes for Electricity! | ØY Special⁩ | 24m 38s | Channel: ⁨Cory Mac - ØY Electrical⁩ | 22,398 views | 2022-12-15 - 18:00:31UTC
47:24 <Halcyon> That's pretty cool
07:39 <Ysjoelfir> WEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
07:43 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
07:44 <EEVBot> I
07:44 <EEVBot> > \
07:47 <Ysjoelfir> I got tools!
07:54 * Ysjoelfir dances like a ballerina
08:12 <Ysjoelfir> oh, and I got a full size deskkeyboardmousepadthing, too
11:19 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXPqDPZxcik
11:19 <EEVBot> [url] Rotherham ABBA Medley Medley - YouTube | www.youtube.com
11:19 <steve30> Comments on the technical quality are welcomed
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11:19 <MrMobodies> Hello
11:19 <MrMobodies> just looking at another cassetteboy video
11:20 <MrMobodies> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOQzpDr5P_Y
11:20 <EEVBot> [url] F the Tories for Xmas #1 - YouTube | www.youtube.com
11:20 <MrMobodies> he seems to be getting better at it everytime
11:20 <MrMobodies> the high speed editing to make them say things
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11:20 <Halcyon> Happy new year all
11:20 <Kuschelpony> thank you too
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11:20 <MrMobodies> Hello
19:31 <DogWomble> Hippy Nude Beer
21:38 <K> what tools?
22:27 <Ysjoelfir> schkruuuhdrivers and pliers and such things. and power strips, loooots of them!
23:14 <K> pics or it didn't happen
26:36 <Ysjoelfir> gimme a sex
26:44 * Halcyon sexes Ysjoelfir 
26:47 <Ysjoelfir> *sec, but sex is nice, too
26:57 <Halcyon> I'll still take that as consent
27:01 <Ysjoelfir> why did I knew that you chime in at that moment? XD
27:05 <Halcyon> *grin*
28:03 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
28:03 Set By: (ChanOP) on: Sat Jun 04 09:17:37 2022
31:27 <Ysjoelfir> K!
31:32 <Ysjoelfir> http://img.pdi.engineering/work/new%20stuff/1672907372210.jpg tools!
32:18 <K> oooh them screwdrivers
32:21 <Ysjoelfir> http://img.pdi.engineering/work/new%20stuff/1672907372204.jpg and that one as well. its soaking in alcohol right now, since it has this nasty, extremely stinky protective grease on it that sticks to your fingers and makes you stink for days
32:38 <Ysjoelfir> http://img.pdi.engineering/work/new%20stuff/1672907372197.jpg power strips! (3 more are already in use)
32:48 <Ysjoelfir> http://img.pdi.engineering/work/new%20stuff/1672907372191.jpg and that desk mat thing
34:12 <K> that is nice
34:28 <K> i hope that mug has 1kg of lead in the bottom
35:00 <Ysjoelfir> the white one?
35:12 <K> yea
35:27 <K> or is it for pencils
35:45 <Ysjoelfir> nope, but its actually extremely stable, strangely. and it has the old "I only give negative Feedback" thing on it
35:56 <K> ah.
50:55 <Ysjoelfir> now I just need a usefull, reliable heating in here. right now its.... more or less either too hot or too cold
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27:33 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/zzv3nu/winston_bringing_in_the_new_year_with_a_new_tail/
27:35 <EEVBot> [reddit] Winston bringing in the new year with a new tail 🔥 my beautiful boy has finished molting (https://v.redd.it/pc3zgl5gaa9a1) to r/BeAmazed | 36721 points (95.0%) | 428 comments | Posted by lostintranslation01 | Created at 2022-12-31 - 08:20:14CST
40:26 <Ysjoelfir> so. Just ordered a 34 inch ultra wide curved gaming monitor for the office. that'll be nais.
57:32 <Halcyon> I'm considering getting 6 GHz WiFi access points
58:35 <Ysjoelfir> whats that now
58:50 <Ysjoelfir> have we skipped 5.8GHz and went straight to 6?
59:26 <Halcyon> WiFi 6E as it's known is from 5925 to 7125 Mhz
59:59 <Ysjoelfir> the heck is that
00:03 <Ysjoelfir> I have never heard of that :D
00:11 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.imgur.com/lNM79tR.jpeg
00:12 <Halcyon> Australia approved 500 MHz of the band last year and is considering extending that all the way to 7 GHz
00:13 <Halcyon> https://www.wi-fi.org/countries-enabling-wi-fi-in-6-ghz-wi-fi-6e
00:14 <EEVBot> [url] Countries Enabling Wi-Fi in 6 GHz (Wi-Fi 6E) | Wi-Fi Alliance | www.wi-fi.org
00:19 <Ysjoelfir> but who am I to wonder, I live in a digital 3rd world country
00:36 <Halcyon> It's basically to enable after throughput, less congestion, wider channels etc...
00:47 <Halcyon> Thanks T3sl4 :D You too
01:03 <T3sl4> don't get two tyred
11:43 <T3sl4> wow, rip https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dairy-plant-fire-melted-butter-clogs-storm-drains-portage-canal-wisconsin/
11:43 <EEVBot> [url] Melted butter clogs historic canal and storm drains after dairy plant fire in Wisconsin - CBS News | www.cbsnews.com
12:50 <Halcyon> Mmmm fat berg
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42:40 <Halcyon> Awwww handsome bird
43:29 <electrohead> !coffee
43:29 * EEVBot drowns electrohead in coffee
43:54 * electrohead pokes Halcyon with a coffee filter
01:47 <jaymax> The Green Bay Fatbergs?
02:25 <jaymax> Also \o_
02:33 <Halcyon> Hey jaymax
02:43 <Ampera> allo
02:45 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
02:47 <Halcyon> Amperaaaaaa
02:49 <Halcyon> :D
02:55 <Halcyon> Good morning
03:00 <Ampera> morning
03:07 <Ampera> just walked into the office
03:16 <Halcyon> Did you take your tea?
03:20 <steve30> hi
03:23 <Ampera> yes, and I did yesterday as well
03:26 <Ampera> lapsang souchong today
03:45 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
03:57 <Halcyon> I'm doing good. Should think about dinner I suppose
04:57 <electrohead> yo steve30
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16:01 <jaymax> Burrito?
16:16 * jaymax kombuchas
17:22 <steve30> i don't know if i can bring myself to go out in the rain today
19:38 <K> you'll get fat.
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22:24 <Ampera> maybe I will make steak tomorrow
22:32 <Ampera> it all depends on if I am allowed to use the kitchen
22:36 <K> you'll get fat.
24:44 <jaymax> They're all going to laugh at you.
27:24 <jaymax> https://youtu.be/Qcx3fcNlnSM
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31:39 <Ysjoelfir> !alcohol
31:49 <Ysjoelfir> !painkiller
31:59 <Ysjoelfir> !shotgun
32:07 * Ysjoelfir kicks EEVBot
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35:50 * steve30 paracetamols ys
36:02 <steve30> *Ysjoelfir
36:12 <Ysjoelfir> good enough
37:20 <Ysjoelfir> 2023 starts great, my aunt died at 1:40 after 8 years of fighting cancer. But I am positive, as I wasn't in Bed after 2:30 this was still technically 2022, so this year starts fresh.
44:29 <electrohead> mournings
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50:14 <steve30> hmm
52:04 * Ysjoelfir mourns at electrohead
52:15 <Ysjoelfir> you know that almost no shop in germany has skinless boneless chicken thighs?
53:05 <electrohead> why?
53:17 <Ysjoelfir> don't ask me
53:42 <Ysjoelfir> only place I ever found it was at metro, which is a grocery store for... like companies and stuff. you have to acquire a permit to buy there
53:47 * electrohead shrugs
53:47 <EEVBot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
53:51 <Ysjoelfir> in normal shops its unobtainium
54:27 <Ysjoelfir> I even went to a more fancy store in my lunch break right now, that has lots of bio shit and whatnot. they had even less variety of 2-legged animal products
55:35 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, are the bone-in skin-on ones common?
55:41 <Ysjoelfir> no.
55:50 <Ampera> germany just doesn't have chicken?
56:29 <Ampera> damn, that'd sound so sad if it weren't for the crunch of this here bucket of fried chicken
56:53 <Ysjoelfir> we have. but common is only: chicken titties, chicken.... inner titties, and drumsticks (pre-marinated usually), sometimes you get chicken schnitzels and cubed chicken for stews. and the same for.... that bigger chicken animal which I forgot the name in english of.
56:54 <Ampera> in the words of the kernel himself /chicken so good you won't even hear your family starving/
57:07 <Ampera> turkey
57:13 <Ysjoelfir> no, the smaller one
57:16 <Ysjoelfir> big chicken
57:16 <Ampera> Chicken breasts are inedible
57:21 <Ampera> uhhhhhh
57:37 <Ampera> duuuuuck?
57:40 <Ysjoelfir> no
57:41 <Ysjoelfir> wait
57:44 <Ysjoelfir> let me check something
57:56 <Ampera> Do you guys not have butcher shops?
57:59 <K> angry chicken
58:00 <Ysjoelfir> it was turkey
58:04 <Ampera> some place that will just get you whatever cuts you ask for?
58:38 <Ampera> I mean worst case you buy whole chicken and have chicken soup for days
59:16 <Ampera> I will never understand why people even buy chicken breasts. They are almost impossible to cook right, and even when you do, don't taste anywhere near as good as dark meat
59:27 <Ampera> yet they take up the majority of the shelf space here
59:45 <Ampera> that being said, we do have chicken thighs, you can easily buy a 10ct. sheet of them, bone in or boneless
59:56 <Ysjoelfir> In my head i somehow swapped turkey and goose. and sure, we have butchers. but usually only inside grocery stores, and they know fuckall and won't cut the thing to your liking if its not available pre-packed anyway.
00:23 <Ampera> Butchers that will get you what you need are semi-rare here, but even the grocery store butchers will at least try if you ask them to order something
00:40 <Ampera> Chicken is probably my favorite meat, tbh. That and lamb
00:48 <Ysjoelfir> real butchers are almost extinct because of the insane prices for energy and rent in the last decades. the same goes for bakery shops. they just have the bonus that there are many bakery chains that allow them to kinda survive, but butchers never had franchises.
00:52 <Ampera> I'd make a good muslim. I don't mind pork, but it's really not my favorite.
01:14 <Ysjoelfir> hmm?
01:42 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, that's a shame. One of the best butchers around is actually owned and run by germans
01:50 <Ampera> they even have certain import products on the shelves
01:58 <Ampera> and very nice blutwurst and bratwurst
02:13 <Ampera> and quark, which my dad loves, but is often unobtanium here
02:48 <Ysjoelfir> back in frankfurt we had a very good butcher, and it was.... ok in price. at least for sausages. you couldn't buy chicken there though, as prices were insane. like, 2 chicken breasts were like 35€.
03:04 <Ampera> holy shit
03:06 <Ysjoelfir> I got some pork roast though, to make my pulled pork from time to time. that was.... ok in price
03:38 <Ysjoelfir> over here, I didn't yet discover a good butcher. let me see on the map if there even is one in my city
03:39 <Ampera> 35EUR ~= 40USD, which would get you like 6-8 large trays of chicken breasts
04:02 <Ampera> Check for halal butchers. That's the cheat code around here.
04:12 <Ampera> They're the ones that'll get you cheap meat cut exactly how you want
04:59 <Ysjoelfir> wow. I just checked.
05:21 <Ysjoelfir> there is EXACTLY 1 (one) butcher in the city. and its supposedly insanely expensive (who could have guessed)
05:26 <Ampera> hehehe
05:40 <Ysjoelfir> the next one is half an hour away by car
05:48 <Ampera> that's not too far
06:11 <Ampera> that's about how far our german butcher shop is
06:45 <Ampera> that being said, driving 30 minutes to get groceries is a completely normal thing everyone does
06:55 <Ampera> probably even more driving than just that if you have a family and hit more than oen store
07:06 <Ysjoelfir> is it? not here
07:16 <Ysjoelfir> let me show you how far I have to go for groceries from my work
07:29 <Ampera> The idea of groceries being close enough to walk to is baffling to me
07:45 <Ampera> I know it's a common big-ish city thing, but it's just not a thing that I've ever done
07:59 <Ampera> here you go once every week or two, and load up the car
08:20 <Ysjoelfir> http://img.pdi.engineering/various/1672920463406.jpg
08:24 <Ampera> I'm just one person, so I typically went once a month, with the detriment that fresher stuff I couldn't keep that often
08:40 <Ysjoelfir> here you tend to go every two days and pack for 2 to 3 days
08:51 <Ampera> that reminds me, we just lost our aldi q.q
09:04 <Ampera> they moved sadly
09:25 <Ysjoelfir> oh, speaking of aldi: in that pic, if you cross the street/stay on this side, just to the right of the picture is aldi, and right beside that, is Edeka
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09:44 <Ysjoelfir> and this is not a big town by any means.... we are 34.000 people
09:54 <Ampera> My city is 66k in a fairly small area
10:14 <Ampera> The closest grocery store is around 2 miles from me. Walkable, but you wouldn't want to every other day
11:09 <Ysjoelfir> wow. I would be annoyed
11:21 <Ampera> It's common here.
11:27 <Ampera> Everyone drives, and we have big fast roads
11:27 <Ysjoelfir> from my apartment I walk 8 minutes to the next Rewe
11:58 <Ampera> I typically go to Price Chopper, which is a couple miles, or Sam's Club, which is about 10 miles.
12:09 <Ampera> or a 10 minute and 20-30 minute drive
12:22 <Ysjoelfir> !convert 10 miles to kilometer
12:22 <EEVBot> [units] The result is: Invalid to
12:30 <Ysjoelfir> !convert 10 miles kilometer
12:31 <EEVBot> [units] The result is: Invalid kilometer
12:34 <Ampera> 16km
12:55 <Ysjoelfir> !convert 16 kilometer to miles
12:55 <EEVBot> [units] The result is: Invalid to
12:58 <Ysjoelfir> !convert 16kilometer to miles
12:58 <EEVBot> [units] Invalid data!
13:03 <Ysjoelfir> fuck you EEVBot
13:03 <EEVBot> Watch your mouth, Ysjoelfir, or I'll tell your mother!
13:09 <Ysjoelfir> please do.
13:10 <Ampera> his mother would probably agree
13:13 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
14:09 <Ampera> There are convenience stores closer, those you can walk to
14:16 <Ampera> but they never carry anything fresh, and are more expensive
14:19 <Ysjoelfir> that would be barely impossible here. I wouldn't have the storage to pack all the groceries I would need to survive until the next shipping thing
14:49 <Ampera> we have big pantries
15:00 <Ampera> and typically 1-2 freezers
16:12 <Ampera> I think the farthest store I occasionally go to is around 130-150 miles away
16:23 <Ampera> ~225km
16:41 <Ampera> that's an asian market that tends to have better stock of things I like than my local one
16:50 <Ysjoelfir> my "pantry" is a small shelve behind a curain, and my fridge-freezer-combination-thing has enough space to put.... like.... 3 whole chicken inside. one would need to be copped up though
17:11 <Ysjoelfir> pff.... ok well, your fuel is like a fifth the price of ours, so.... I see why that makes sense
17:52 <Ampera> I have a fridge freezer. It has a whole duck, big thing of salmon, rack of goat, ~3kg ground beef, a pack of chicken leg quarters, bunch of bratwurst, pie crusts, stew beef
17:58 <Ampera> (the freezer part)
18:04 <Ampera> it's fairly full though
18:22 <Ampera> The funny part is your roads tend to be faster than ours :P
18:44 <Ampera> 130km/h is massively speeding here
19:03 <Ampera> (on the highways)
19:27 <Ampera> city streets tend to be 50 - 70km/hr
22:05 <steve30> i need to go and brave the outside
24:21 <Ysjoelfir> city streets are almost always 50, sometimes even only 30. 70 is only outside cities. and I am jealous of your freezer.
25:28 <Ysjoelfir> I am considering get a bigger fridge though. because since the misses is living half time at my place now, and the micro is joining in, I need more food storage space
25:36 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
26:20 <Ampera> anything lower than 50 is baffling to me
26:30 <Ampera> I've seen streets in canada that were 20
26:38 <Ampera> you might as well get out and walk :P
27:52 <Ysjoelfir> we have even streets that are 7
27:54 <Ampera> in other news I am listening to one of my favorite german groups :D
28:11 <Ampera> Helloween
35:51 <Ysjoelfir> nice :)
38:53 <jaymax> > http://img.pdi.engineering/various/1672920463406.jpg
38:53 <jaymax> It's so litl!
40:50 * Ysjoelfir extinguishes jaymax
41:12 * Ampera reverts jaymax back into a gelatinous form
41:32 * jaymax is a 5min walk from grocers, or 5min bike ride from a larger store and a farmers market.
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