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00:43 <Avatar> photos
00:50 <aidrocsid> k
14:50 <steven> I got  vishkanya boon
16:28 <aidrocsid> imgur is being disagreeable
22:32 <Avatar> a likely story
22:41 <aidrocsid> you can see what i have so far 
23:03 <aidrocsid> i had to put one on google drive for some reason
23:47 <aidrocsid> wow 2 even
23:48 <aidrocsid> fuck imgur
25:24 <aidrocsid> http://imgur.com/4HnxrK7
25:24 <aidrocsid> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8GqDeYqWv15YnUtSmtWelRZcWc/view?usp=sharing
25:25 <aidrocsid> http://i.imgur.com/zEGU3q1.jpg
25:25 <aidrocsid> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8GqDeYqWv15UzRTSG9FMXA4V00/view?usp=sharing
25:25 <aidrocsid> http://i.imgur.com/fE71H0L.jpg
25:47 <aidrocsid> that first one is in a few sections too
29:56 <aidrocsid> a couple of the wobbly cave ones aren't exact to what's in the book because they're just caves and i didn't care
37:30 <aidrocsid> don't look at the pictures or anything avatar jeez :(
14:39 <Avatar> mate
41:01 <heathwool> So still trying to figure out how this works
41:25 <heathwool> can someone explain it further?
59:56 <Mekkis> aidrocsid, have you seen the ones I've done?
04:21 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/IMG_1811.JPG
48:51 <Avatar> still trying to figure out how this works, can anyone explain it in the next 5 minutes ?
48:55 <Avatar> or else I'm leaving
49:33 <Ballig> 6 minutes
14:35 <Mekkis> Not intentionally
15:22 <Ballig> it is a lot like MtG in that regard. skill is absolutely a factor, but deck makeup can more than compensate for skill
15:58 <Ballig> now that I know there's a hidden rating system in casual play I threw some games so I could get back to playing against people who are a challenge instead of ones who roll over me
16:27 <steven> nap was good
16:36 <Ballig> they have a pretty easy way to determine how 'powerful' a deck is because all cards have a rarity associated with them. not sure why that isn't used as part of the matchmaking system
17:42 <Ballig> I don't have any decks that are worth more than 600 points. a single legendary card is worth 1600 points, and I have been matched against people who can play multiple legendaries in a row
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06:45 <Mekkis> heh.
06:50 <Mekkis> Why not just play Magic?
44:40 <Ballig> annoys the hell out of me when I play casual mode in hearthstone and get pitted against decks chock-full of legendary cards
50:57 <Avatar> basically like when you played me after I bought a deck
51:04 <Ballig> not at all like that
51:16 <Avatar> like the one time I was able to beat you
51:23 <Avatar> because of my paid-for deck
52:00 <Ballig> your deck was nothing in compared to these decks
52:22 <Ballig> after complaining about it, my next opponent played two epics/rares (forget what they are) and a legendary within the first three rounds
54:38 <Ballig> pretty sure casual has a ranking system that you can't see, because I was going fine for about a week and now I win maybe 1 in 5 because of all the ridiculous decks I'm up against
56:48 <Ballig> Hearthstone uses separate MMRs for different types of play, such as Casual Play mode, Legend-level Ranked play, and non-cooperative Tavern Brawls.[4][1] Each MMR is determined independently and does not affect other types of play. MMRs are 'hidden' and cannot be viewed by players.
56:53 <Ballig> look at that
03:09 <steven> sup
05:33 <Mekkis> Bunch of stuff that needs levelling, actually
07:14 <Steven1> best get on it son!
08:45 <Steven1> im trying to figure out what to do with my xp on starwars
10:34 <Steven1> my choices are save up for another session or two and get myself a 5 int.
10:54 <Steven1> or throw it into skills
12:04 <Steven1> int of 5 is REALLY powerful
14:26 <Steven1> it is kind of like having a 25int in pathfinder
16:55 <Steven1> the highest you can get is a 6int
29:22 <Ballig> maybe not though, it's a pretty huge difference between 1 minute/level and week/permanent
31:43 <Mekkis> yeah, makes sense
32:36 <Ballig> the question becomes, I think, "why is it a higher level?" and I would go so far as to say it's because of the convenience of diversity for the situation
33:02 <Mekkis> oh, it's definitely valid being a higher level.
33:02 <Ballig> greater polymorph is level 7 and lets you use the spell as though it's one of several level 6 spells, and polymorph any object is level 8 and lets you use it as though it's a more diverse form of a level 7 spell
33:39 <steven> It is polymorph from any object to anything that greater polymorph allows, the duration is set by the discriptors of type and what not.
33:43 <Mekkis> It's a way of bypassing obstacles, a save-or-die, and a long-duration buff.
34:07 <steven> It is a very powerful and flexible spell.
34:08 <Ballig> sometimes it's possible to let a spell become /too/ powerful based on that single higher spell level
34:13 <Mekkis> Definitely worth being eighth-level
34:37 <Mekkis> but I was pretty sure it didn't let you got and turn things into CR25 monsters
35:06 <Ballig> I would say the link to greater polymorph in the first sentence is definitely intentional and designed to prevent that
35:15 <steven> one would hope so.
35:29 <steven> last thing we need is another magic bane bandersnatch thread.
35:41 <Mekkis> yeah. That was BS
36:04 <steven> Ahtuz uses his prepared casting of PAO to change a melee character into a dragon for the module.
36:21 <Mekkis> Ahtuz is your necromancer?
36:26 <steven> yup
36:56 <steven> nothing like giving a melee character... specially a barbarian, several additional attacks.
37:12 <Mekkis> Itzamna is considering getting a scroll of it - to use with his mnemonic vestments
37:44 <steven> and its a really stupid combination if the barbarian is a natural attack barbarian.
38:21 <Mekkis> At least Pathfinder got rid of the Alter Self loophole
38:30 <Mekkis> or it would be even worse
39:50 <Mekkis> heh
40:07 <steven> nah, they are both polymorph spells, so they dont stack.
40:46 <Mekkis> (that's not the Alter Self loophole)
40:58 <steven> oh yeah, that was just stupid
41:18 <Mekkis> Still works with Disguise Self
41:27 <steven> but hey, people will go for any bonuses they can get.
41:59 <Mekkis> Looks like I'll be taking Prismatic Wall at 16th
42:18 <Mekkis> Alter Self loophole:  You assume the form of a creature of the same type as your normal form. The new form must be within one size category of your normal size. 
42:20 <Mekkis> My 36 int sorcerer
42:59 <Mekkis> (3.5e polymorph is based on Alter Self, so if you're an outsider, you suddenly get a lot of choice)
47:15 <Ballig> 3.5e didn't anticipate all the splat books giving so much choice
47:17 <Ballig> it killed it
48:29 <Mekkis> You could argue that neither did Pathfinder
48:36 <Ballig> it's definitely getting to that point
48:42 <Ballig> I say "killed it", but that's too harsh
48:49 <Ballig> you just have to be fastidious about limiting it
48:52 <Mekkis> (Pathfinder has more base classes than 3.5 now)
49:02 <Mekkis> Have you looked at 5e?
49:12 <Ballig> I haven't
49:13 <steven> i've played it.
49:25 <steven> meh
49:30 <Ballig> I heard they didn't continue with the 4e path
49:43 <steven> Been playing Starwars Edge of the Empire
49:59 <Mekkis> I like it, to be honest. The rules are good at getting out of the way.
49:59 <steven> lots of fun.
50:23 <Mekkis> It's also interesting in that it's been over a year, and Wizards has released only one splatbook.
50:51 <steven> the rules are also good at empowering...
51:07 <steven> 100hp character at 3rd level
51:43 <Mekkis> in 5e? seriously?
52:10 <steven> yuuuuuuuuuuup
52:27 <Mekkis> Why?
52:45 <Mekkis> and how? I'm guessing it has something to do with druid.
52:50 <Ballig> is that within the scope of the challenge?
52:53 <steven> yeah druid stuff
53:15 <Ballig> or are you level 3 with 100hp while everyone else at level 3 has 15-20?
53:32 <Mekkis> Actually one of my concerns with 5e is that it is pretty difficult to die anyway. So having 100hp doesn't make much difference.
53:55 <steven> there is also the immortal druid build i saw
54:19 <Ballig> it's a bit sad that 5e isn't that old and these things are already possible, but sometimes as a GM you just have to say "no"
54:20 <Mekkis> This is theorycraft, right?
56:34 <steven> its a legit problem in the 5e community.
58:29 <Mekkis> oh, people bring them to the table and say "You have to let me play this"?
00:45 <Ballig> I can only see it being a problem in organised play if it's not disallowed by the organisation rules
06:04 <Mekkis> steven, can I unchain my first world summoner?
06:24 <steven> heell if i know
06:32 <steven> i dont play summoners and so arent familiar with them
06:42 <steven> and yeah its mostly in organized play
07:38 <Mekkis> I don't do 5e organised play
08:10 <Mekkis> that being said, Ballig, if you're interested in some 5e, my Wednesday evening group has a free slot
24:08 <Mekkis> What's the most expensive PFS-legal nonmagic item?
31:16 <Steven1> cloathing
34:19 <Mekkis> oh?
35:06 <Mekkis> an Alchemical Dragon?
39:46 <Avatar> hearthstone > magic
08:07 <Mekkis> !hp 8d10m2
08:08 <diebot> Mekkis, 68
09:13 <Mekkis> Hmmm... Should my 8th level advancement for my swashbuckler go to dex (bringing it up to 23) or int (bringing it up to 14)?
10:11 <Mekkis> if you say so
22:41 Topic for #d&d is: AEDT (UTC+11:00) || Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au || https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/pathfinder-society-online-collective
22:41 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Nov 30 19:02:39 2015
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24:23 <Mekkis> What's the max dex of Mithril Chainshirt?
25:01 <Steven1> cloathing
31:41 <Mekkis> !search combat reflexes
31:43 <diebot> Mekkis, Rostland Edge
31:49 <Mekkis> !item Rostland Edge
31:50 <diebot> Mekkis, ROSTLAND EDGE [moderate evocation and transmutation] CL:10 none 21820gp, 3lb
31:50 <diebot> Among the proud and honorable Aldori Swordlords, there is no greater dishonor than losing one's weapon in combat, for without it, how can a swordlord display his dueling prowess and prove that his style is superior to all others? Crafted to defend against enemies seeking to damage it rather than its wielder, a Rostland edge is a +2 counteringUE
31:50 <diebot> imperviousUE Aldori dueling swordISWG. If the blade is ever destroyed, it explodes with tremendous force, dealing 10d6 points of fire damage to every creature within a 20-foot-radius spread (Reflex DC 14 half). Source: Inner Sea Combat
39:08 <Mekkis> Sounds like Magic
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15:18 <Brunius`> dex
04:49 <Avatar> I'm at the point with organised play where I'd like to play the scenarios but going by their rules and reporting is a bit completely pointless
05:16 <Ballig> I got frustrated with how long it would take them to rule on something that's clearly broken, if they ever did
05:25 <Avatar> exactly
05:39 <Avatar> and having to adhere to the shitty rulings that plenty of people didn't like
05:53 <Ballig> there's also the inherent lack of real continuity which is a bit disappointing but difficult to avoid in organised play
06:45 <Avatar> I think that's just a thing with playing in scenarios
06:57 <Avatar> I don't think you could avoid that a lot playing with the same group either
07:03 <Ballig> well, specifically it's a thing with playing in a system where anyone can GM and anyone can pick up and play
07:20 <Ballig> it's designed to get games going effeciently, but it means you can't really play a bunch with the same party under the same GM that easily
07:41 <Ballig> so you have to contrive some sort of roleplay or relationship between characters in the party you happen to be in today
08:28 <Ballig> I had hoped that those adventure paths/longer campaigns would be a way to go, but we had such an issue getting people to commit to them
12:48 <Avatar> yeah but I've played games with the same people and not a whole lot more roleplay came out of it
12:56 <Avatar> not in the same way as our old campaigns did
13:05 <Avatar> eyes of the ten is an easy example
13:14 <aidrocsid> well mekkis clearly you have artistic ability
13:32 <Ballig> I think a big part of that is just because people adapted their playstyle for the scenarios, and don't really take the opportunity to let loose even when playing with the same group for a while
13:33 <aidrocsid> did you paint those or what?
14:03 <Ballig> kind of like the difference between partying with a group of your friends in DDO compared to pugging it with some randoms
14:03 <Avatar> the discussions you have are based more on the problem at hand rather than what a jerk someone is
14:31 <Ballig> in a normal campaign, you can spend a whole session discussing what a jerk someone is
14:36 <Ballig> because there aren't any limits
15:17 <aidrocsid> was that a pun
51:57 <mib_2rpyzj> E
22:58 <Brunius`> E
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38:17 <Mekkis> I'm considering upgrading my mithril chain shirt to darkleaf padded armour.
38:39 <Mekkis> trying to work out if it's likely for my dex to get to +10
59:42 <steven> "Lets leave town at about 10am"
59:57 * steven is ready at 830am
00:45 * steven is still sitting at his house at 10:30am
22:36 <steven> Called the guy.
22:50 <steven> he is having breakfast with a friend.
23:02 <steven> ...
23:19 <steven> guess he didnt want to leave town at 10am
20:30 <Steven1> depends on what the character does.
21:02 <Steven1> I've considered upping my stealthy characters dex, but it only translates to hit.
23:22 <Steven1> he is exceptionally difficult to spot.
49:16 <Mekkis> What's the max dex of Mithril Chainshirt?
54:16 <Mekkis> aidrocsid, no. I have technical ability :P
54:49 <Avatar> int
55:16 <Avatar> next time just wait till he's there before you're ready 
55:21 <Avatar> before you get ready
56:33 <Mekkis> !search combat reflexes
56:35 <diebot> Mekkis, Rostland Edge
56:41 <Mekkis> !item Rostland Edge
56:42 <diebot> Mekkis, ROSTLAND EDGE [moderate evocation and transmutation] CL:10 none 21820gp, 3lb
56:42 <diebot> Among the proud and honorable Aldori Swordlords, there is no greater dishonor than losing one's weapon in combat, for without it, how can a swordlord display his dueling prowess and prove that his style is superior to all others? Crafted to defend against enemies seeking to damage it rather than its wielder, a Rostland edge is a +2 counteringUE
56:42 <diebot> imperviousUE Aldori dueling swordISWG. If the blade is ever destroyed, it explodes with tremendous force, dealing 10d6 points of fire damage to every creature within a 20-foot-radius spread (Reflex DC 14 half). Source: Inner Sea Combat
46:58 <Ballig> and make him watch as you get dressed, never breaking eye contact
59:23 <Mekkis> It translates to to-hit, damage and CMB
01:08 <Mekkis> so it's currently 22 (including belt of dex +2).
01:19 <Mekkis> at level 7.
01:36 <Mekkis> So if I push it to 26, that's still only +8
21:27 <Avatar> don't know about that
22:11 <Ballig> "Why?!" "You know why. Uh-uh! Don't close your eyes!"
32:36 <Zensunni> Hello, all.
36:54 <Avatar> sup
37:42 <Zensunni> not much, was just looking into making a char
43:07 <Mekkis> What's Brunius` doing up at 3am?
44:25 <Steven1> do you have any plans to take him beyond 12th?
44:39 <Avatar> replying to people who come in saying E
45:55 <Zensunni> ?
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20:01 <Mekkis> Not really
20:22 <Mekkis> I mean, he is a fun character and everything though
20:43 <Mekkis> but I thought there was only one real seeker path, not including APs
50:48 <Ballig> str
55:14 <Avatar> honour
55:48 <Ballig> for the horde
38:01 <Mekkis> Does Fickle winds completely shut down archers?
38:10 <Steven1> yup
38:57 <Mekkis> Damn
42:23 <Steven1> but hey... only 30% effective on bullets
43:01 <Mekkis> So it sort of stuffs up any scenario with a bunch of archers in it
43:11 <Mekkis> maybe the witch can do some Control Weather stuff
50:11 <aidrocsid> you mean you made them in photoshop or you printed them?
50:19 <aidrocsid> because photoshop would be artistic ability still
50:32 <aidrocsid> but if you printed them either you have a big printer or they're much smaller than the ones i was using
50:44 <aidrocsid> btw good thing i made most of it because they ripped through scrapwall super fast
50:56 <aidrocsid> not all of it but quite a lot
35:19 <steven> yo
40:35 <aidrocsid> hey
49:09 <steven> how ya doin?
50:57 <steven> I just got back from a convention
50:58 <aidrocsid> I love gaming paper
52:47 <aidrocsid> good, DMed tonight, having some drinks and raving about horace and pete in another channel lol
52:51 <aidrocsid> have you seen horace and pete?
53:01 <aidrocsid> also about to watch the walking dead
57:08 <Mekkis> oh?
58:37 <aidrocsid> i just drew every map except the last one from lords of rust
58:42 <aidrocsid> and mounted them on cardboard
58:51 <aidrocsid> now i don't have to draw at all for the next couple weeks anyway
59:24 <aidrocsid> by "just" i mean over the last idk like 6 hours lol
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