// #d&d — 2015-08-02
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00:29:41 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: 7pm Friday 24th || AEST (UTC+10:00) || Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
00:29:41 Topic for #d&d set by Mekkis at Fri Jul 10 22:12:33 2015
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00:34:57 <Avatar> the noise is just the beginning
00:35:14 <Avatar> there's also the culture of cheaters, munchkin gamers and dodgy GMs
00:48:07 <Avatar> maybe you could run a game
00:51:08 <Ulzef2> hey people
00:51:43 <Ulzef2> steven about?
00:52:49 <Ulzef2> or someone else who wants to rules fu with me
00:54:33 <Avatar> mate
00:54:45 <Avatar> always assume someone's about
00:54:55 <Avatar> I might have to tell Konstantinos caues he's new but you have no excuse
00:55:22 <Ulzef2> pointed out sknething i noticed to the gitch which RAW is solid and got back a expect table variation
00:55:22 <Ulzef2> oh i always expect you
00:55:27 <Ulzef2> you just normally dont like rules debates
00:55:48 Avatar ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
00:55:58 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
00:56:48 <Ulzef2> true however on my phone in maccas and cant wait my normal respectable amount of time
00:57:50 <Avatar> anyone who's around who cares will answer you
00:57:57 <Avatar> myself included by the way !
00:58:21 <Ulzef2> but i digress summon monster list elementals of x size in there entry which means it should allow for bestiary 2 elementals gitch is panty wadding due to it being outside of bestiary 1
01:01:10 <Ulzef2> so summon monster list elemetals of x size but not types
01:01:40 <Ulzef2> so it should by RAW allow bestiary 2 elemetals
01:02:11 <Ulzef2> gitch was saying expect table variation dye to them not being in bestiary 1
01:09:50 <Ulzef2> cant find a faq to slap him with but was wondering thoughts
01:11:48 <KonstantinosXVI> Ooh... I don't think I could DM yet Avatar.
01:12:37 <KonstantinosXVI> Not very familiar with Pathfinder. Last time I played was 3.5 about 8 years ago... and last time I DMed was even longer.
01:13:09 <KonstantinosXVI> Would love to once I get a bit more familiar with it.
01:13:29 <Avatar> mate if you can tell a story and you can be fair with rules, you can GM
01:13:44 <Avatar> you don't need to know them all
01:13:56 <Avatar> nobody does
01:14:04 <KonstantinosXVI> Hehe, fair point.
01:14:43 <KonstantinosXVI> Are there any rules against including your own character in a story you're running?
01:15:30 <Mekkis> Avatar, you wouldn't happen to know if Darkwhite is in Brisbane at the moment?
01:16:22 <Ulzef2> sorta if you are doing pfs you dont run you character but you get a gm cert at the end so you still advance
01:16:43 <KonstantinosXVI> Ah right.
01:17:57 <KonstantinosXVI> Hmm... well, I might see about running something tomorrow. I'll familiarise myself a bit more with the PFS world and try to think of something.
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01:36:25 <Avatar> no idea
01:49:06 <Lintor> hey guys how do conditional full bab characters and pre reqs like power attack work
01:49:43 <Lintor> like can monk take power attack at level 1 and have it only work when he flurrys?
02:04:09 <Mekkis> Ummm....
02:36:41 <Lintor> happy birf day avatar
02:37:53 <Avatar> thx yo
02:39:19 <Lintor> good day?
02:39:32 <s_gmusic> I think it's "no" because you don't always have full BAB, you go by the one that's printed on the class level chart for feat pre-reqs.
02:42:54 <Avatar> short day
02:42:58 <Avatar> woke up at around 11.30
02:43:07 <Avatar> not sure what happened to the past 5 hours
02:54:51 <Brunius> That's the last we'll see of him, eh Avatar?
03:16:19 <Brunius> Mekkis: Any idea when the next WotW will be?
03:18:02 <Mekkis> I've pencilled in 9th of August, but kapow's unable to commit yet. I'll keep you informed
03:20:10 <diebot> Features coming soon: ACG Spells, !scroll should stop complaining.
03:49:55 <Avatar> ARG errata came out
03:50:00 <Avatar> lots of upset people
03:50:20 <Avatar> basically thanks to the nerfed retraining rules
03:59:31 <Lintor> i 100% cannot make the 9th
04:01:07 <Mekkis> Am I arguing with VCs too much?
04:02:39 <Avatar> s_g is right
04:06:39 <Mekkis> "People would abuse the rules"
04:06:42 <Mekkis> "We already tolerate abuse of the rules: look at the broken characters that some players bring from time to time. As GMs, we're Required to allow them on our tables, even if they trounce encounters."
04:27:31 <Avatar> people being you
04:43:26 <s_gmusic> well I don't hear that often. :/
04:45:30 <Avatar> :/
04:57:58 <Brunius> :\
05:17:59 <Konstantinos> Hello
05:19:10 <Avatar> yo
05:19:43 <Konstantinos> So... I just want to double check because I can't believe in actually exists... but this is an active, Australian, online Pathfinder group?
05:27:39 <Lintor> mekkis i can maybe do the 8th but no way i can do the 9th my nephews first birthday party is on
05:29:34 <Konstantinos> Still there?
05:33:53 <Proquar> Hello
05:46:30 <Mekkis> !hp 5d8m2
05:46:31 <diebot> Mekkis, 38
05:47:35 <Avatar> the birthday party will have to be postponed !!
05:51:47 <Lintor> yes its is
05:52:36 <Lintor> been a bit slow for a little bit, but yeah aussies with the occasional US and other region members
06:08:06 <Konstantinos> Awesome
06:08:21 <Konstantinos> Is there anywhere that I need to apply for a character?
06:08:32 <Konstantinos> Or do I just do up a sheet and hop on here to find a game?
06:17:02 <Avatar> have you played pathfinder society
06:21:18 <Konstantinos> No, I've played normal pathfinder though.
06:23:08 <Avatar> go through this: http://pathfindersocietyonline.com/gettingstarted/
06:28:47 <Konstantinos> Ok, I'll do that.
06:38:27 <Proquar> see y'all next year - hope you had/have a good one avatar :D
07:09:01 <Konstantinos> So once I have a character registered with Paizo, I'm good to go?
07:13:54 <Avatar> yep
07:13:57 <Avatar> roll up a character !!
07:14:13 <Avatar> where are you located
07:18:43 <Konstantinos> Sweet. Reading through the PFS guide now.
07:18:50 <Konstantinos> Canberra. You?
07:23:27 <Konstantinos> Can you help me with this rule? Just looking at the steps to creating a character, and it says any core race, kitsune, nagaji, tengu and wayang are allowed, but other races are not legal unless the character's Chronicle stack includes a race boon.
07:23:33 <Konstantinos> What is the Chronicle stack?
07:23:46 <Konstantinos> I was hoping to play a Drow character.
07:24:51 <Mekkis> hmmm
07:24:52 <Mekkis> okay
07:26:37 <Avatar`> you can't play a drow in pathfinder society
07:26:58 <Avatar`> it's a good/neutral aligned campaign, drow is considered evil
07:27:18 <Avatar`> there's a few exceptions for races that are in the guide under character creation
07:27:40 <Avatar`> you get a chronicle sheet at the end of each "scenario" you play
07:27:57 <Avatar`> those are your rewards, which sometimes include a boon like unlocking a race for another character
07:28:15 <Avatar`> or if you attend cons, you can pick up chronicles which are just boons
07:28:34 <Avatar`> I'm in melbourne
07:29:22 <Konstantinos> Yeah, I have a lawful neutral Drow monk I have already created, but never got to play. That's cool though, I will come up with another one.
07:29:51 <Konstantinos> Interesting concept that, getting rewards.
07:30:10 <Avatar`> rewards aren't really split up
07:30:10 <Konstantinos> Ah, nice. I like Melbourne.
07:30:38 <Avatar`> if you find a +2 longsword at the end, you hand it into your bosses at the society, and then all of you can "buy" it from them
07:30:56 <Konstantinos> Oh I see.
07:31:01 <Avatar`> items on the chronicle sheets turn that item into an "always available" item, which is explained in the guide
07:31:19 <Konstantinos> It doesn't mention anything about archetypes. Are there any restrictions on them?
07:32:12 <Avatar`> any options in books that aren't the core rulebook are on the Additional Resources page
07:32:18 <Avatar`> that's mentioned in there somewhere
07:32:53 <Konstantinos> Oh right... and so to be able to legally use that archetype you'd have to own the additional resources booklet that covers it?
07:32:55 <Avatar`> most of the links you need are here: http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/playerResources
07:33:14 <Avatar`> you need to own the book, and it has to be on the additional resources list
07:34:02 <Avatar`> most options in the main books are supported
07:34:14 <Avatar`> APG, UC, UM, UE
07:34:14 <Konstantinos> Man... that's really confusing. A list of the permitted archetypes would be useful. Haha
07:34:24 <Avatar`> that's what the additional resources page is
07:34:36 <Avatar`> what archetype are you thinking of
07:36:34 <Konstantinos> It doesn't list them by name though, just says that the ones on pg. X to pg. Y are legal etc.
07:37:18 <Konstantinos> Not sure... I generally decide on a class by looking over the various classes/archetypes until one clicks into place with the character I'm imagining.
07:43:57 <Konstantinos> Well, I'll delve into it more later. Off to bed for now. Thanks for your help!
07:50:33 <Avatar> that's the last we'll see of him
07:54:05 <Avatar> I'm glad you agree
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08:30:50 <Mekkis> yep
08:37:25 <Mekkis> Is it considered petty to direct the thermal vents of my laptop at the chocolates in the hotel minibar?
08:41:01 <Konstantinos> Hey, anyone awake?
09:26:44 <Mekkis> ARG?
09:41:31 <Mekkis> At least they've fixed the issue with Crane Style
09:43:34 <Lintor> what issue
10:09:01 <Mekkis> ja
10:33:09 <Proquar> Skype said I should pop on and send b'day greetz to Avatar
10:33:12 <Proquar> :)
11:01:42 <Steven1> dont do it, its a trap
11:13:38 <Proquar> good point!
11:13:56 * Proquar walks into traps all the time
11:14:46 <Proquar> g'night
11:18:34 <Mekkis> Avatar, you wouldn't happen to know if Darkwhite is in Brisbane at the moment?
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11:39:26 <Avatar> no idea
12:38:25 <Avatar> thx proquar
12:49:29 <mib_drg896> anyone here?
12:49:31 <mib_drg896> okay bye
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17:23:01 <Avatar> advanced race guide
17:44:05 <Mekkis> it's great. Now clerics actually have a chance at being better healers than oracles!
18:18:53 <Avatar> I thought you just had to be a life oracle to be a better healer
18:18:56 <Avatar> do you have to optimise it as well
19:12:43 <Avatar> hey he came back
19:12:45 <Avatar> how about that
19:12:54 <Avatar> for more than a minute, too
19:22:26 <MekkisScreen> Don't know if you have to optimise it, but the fact that you can is not always a good thing
19:47:20 <s_gmusic> yo pplz
19:52:49 <Konstantinos> Good morning.
20:59:33 <Steven1> what the hell... i cant kill the other steven
21:01:45 <Steven> there we go
21:02:03 <Mekkis> yo
21:10:14 <Lintor> people with regards to the new faction cards do you have to start from scratch or any goals you had meet on the old one that had not changed do you re fill in?
21:10:32 <s_gmusic> so what's the word on Occult?
21:25:14 <Konstantinos> Anyone about?
21:29:14 <Avatar> they roll over
21:29:37 <Lintor> awesome could not find that in the guide
21:30:00 <Avatar> I think this year is an exception to future years because they only just came out
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22:26:26 <Steven> so what up avatar.... you know in 13 hrs i'll be boarding a plane to gencon...
22:26:33 <Steven> you should come next year avatar.
22:27:03 <Avatar> mate the more I learn about gencon the less I want to go
22:28:27 <Avatar> yep
22:28:34 <Avatar> assume someone's always about
22:37:15 <Steven> its actually pretty fun
22:37:47 <Steven> for me its mostly running into people i only get to play with 2 times a year.
22:38:15 <Steven> naturally, there are some downsides, but hey... that happens at any large gatherings of people
22:42:23 <Konstantinos> Oh, hey Avatar.
22:42:35 <Konstantinos> Just wondering if you could set me up so I can upload a character sheet please?
22:44:24 <Konstantinos> The character name is Mithdurya Aldalithe.
22:49:57 <Avatar> you play in a big noisy room right
22:50:08 <Avatar> I am used to cons where we play in one table per room
22:50:28 <Avatar> it would be cool to meet a lot of those people I see on the messageboards
22:50:39 <Avatar> for example, Andrew Christian
22:51:44 <Mekkis> Wow. Eric Mona has an opinion on rebuilds!
22:51:49 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2smmc&page=2?The-ACG-Graveyard#54
23:02:01 <Steven> john compton
23:29:28 <Mekkis> Don't do it
23:29:50 <Lintor> it has a plushie owlbear
23:30:17 <Avatar> you just have to register
23:30:26 <Avatar> and create the character
23:30:44 <Konstantinos> Yeah I have, but when I try to create the character it says it already exists, or is invalid.
23:30:52 <Avatar> use just the first name
23:30:58 <Konstantinos> Ahh
23:30:59 <Avatar> I don't think it lets you use a space
23:31:12 <Avatar> if you click on campaign you'll see the full roster is just first names
23:32:06 <Konstantinos> Ok, that worked... it took me to a standard character sheet to fill out... so you're not using the text ones on the download page anymore?
23:32:58 <s_gmusic> heh
23:33:27 <Steven> well suppose i should be gettin to bed right about now.
23:34:07 <Steven> seriously avatar, gencon 2016... think about it.
23:38:03 <Avatar> you can use either
23:38:10 <Avatar> you can't upload a PDF or something though
23:38:25 <Avatar> if you use the standard character sheet that it takes you to, make sure you click Save regularly, because it times out
23:38:40 <Avatar> not sure how long
23:38:49 <Avatar> the text ones are better
23:40:20 <Konstantinos> Oh ok... so after I've created the character, how do I upload a text one?
23:41:22 <Avatar> click upload sheet
23:43:31 <Konstantinos> Ohh, I see it's up the top.
23:45:59 <Konstantinos> Gods damn it...
23:46:12 <Konstantinos> I did the sheet up in word, made tables and what not...
23:46:21 <Konstantinos> Didn't realise it needed to be in txt format.
23:46:33 <Konstantinos> The formatting does not translate when I convert it. *headdesk*
23:47:55 <Avatar> you don't need to upload it to the site
23:48:01 <Avatar> just use google drive or something
23:48:04 <Konstantinos> Oh right, cool.
23:48:15 <Konstantinos> Then just pop a link to it in a .txt file and upload that?
23:48:21 <Avatar> yeah
23:48:53 <Mekkis> upload it to the site :P
23:49:21 <Mekkis> the site is backed up regularly
23:51:07 <Konstantinos> I would, if it wouldn't take me another hour to convert the formatting out of tables into plain text.
23:51:17 <Konstantinos> I'll let OneDrive keep it backed up. :-)
23:56:05 <Konstantinos> Ok, uploaded a link to it.
23:56:28 <Konstantinos> So any idea when the next game might be?
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