// #d&d — 2011-11-28
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00:32:19 <snypt> Avatar:
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00:41:09 <Avatar> snypt:
00:41:34 <Avatar> 124.168.97.159 for minecraft
00:43:12 <snypt> thats what i was looking for
00:46:19 <snypt> looks good is the server going to stay up for a while?
05:56:12 Ballig1 is now known as Ballig
09:48:46 <MekkisScreen> Brunius_AFK: Desna weeps for you
13:20:25 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 10am (Mekkis) | CoTE: Sun 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
13:20:25 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Nov 27 23:07:11 2011
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13:24:01 <Mekkis> there must be a better way of drawing a blast template
13:24:05 <Mekkis> http://dnd.pastebay.com/145622 feels hacky
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16:29:01 <Brunius> Mekkis: Where did you get the Rok from?
16:29:35 <Avatar> bestiary
16:32:20 <Brunius> Which source allows him to take it?
16:32:24 <Brunius> He's a ranger, right?
16:32:35 <Brunius> I'm betting it's not page 66 of the Core Rulebook
16:32:39 <Brunius> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/faq#v5748eaic9oet
16:32:47 <Brunius> Have fun with that :P Changing computers
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16:37:40 <Avatar> Brunius_AFK: he's a druid
16:39:50 <Avatar> actually, the same thing applies, there's a list of animal choices in the druid section and roc isn't there
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16:55:54 <snypt> Avatar:
16:56:03 <snypt> what port is your server running on?
17:01:08 <Brunius> wtf
17:01:15 <Brunius> Enderman just totally freaked me out
17:02:42 <Avatar> I don't know
17:02:44 <Avatar> default port
17:03:16 <snypt> i got in it just has a bit of trouble connecting sometimes
17:03:24 <snypt> takes like 3 or 4 shots b4 i can get in
17:03:32 <Avatar> I've restricted by torrents bandwidth
17:03:35 <Avatar> my*
17:03:48 <snypt> ew torrents
17:03:59 <Avatar> torrents rule
17:04:07 <snypt> nope
17:04:08 <snypt> too slow
17:04:40 <snypt> you have to depend on seeders and most of the time except in private trackers they are useless
17:04:47 <snypt> ever tried usenet?
17:05:14 <snypt> if i dont get 2 mb/s i get pissy
17:08:35 <Avatar> i get my eps in 5 minutes
17:08:37 <Avatar> so I can't complain
17:09:06 <snypt> i get mine in about 5 mins when i get the 720p ones
17:09:15 <snypt> most of the time i just gethdtv tho
17:09:43 <snypt> i think they are like 480p or something
17:10:11 <Avatar> what speed is your connection
17:10:28 <snypt> 25mbit cable
17:10:40 <Avatar> cmon
17:10:54 <Avatar> I'm on normal people's speed
17:11:11 <snypt> that is normal
17:11:37 <snypt> my average speed is 2.5mb/s
17:12:05 <snypt> my upstream is pathetic tho
17:14:31 <snypt> i already found diamond =D
17:14:36 <snypt> i am so awesome
17:14:36 <Avatar> 25mbit cable isn't normal
17:14:38 <Avatar> what
17:14:47 <Avatar> I couldn't find diamond bloody anywhere
17:14:52 <Avatar> one vein and that's it
17:14:55 <snypt> now i have to make an iron picaxe to mine it
17:15:07 <Avatar> use some of mine if you want
17:15:08 <snypt> i didnt even get to bedrock b4 i found it
17:15:15 <snypt> im a fair way from you
17:15:17 <Avatar> christ
17:15:20 <snypt> didnt want to mix the mines
17:17:11 <snypt> 4 diamonds
17:17:15 <snypt> not too bad
17:18:08 <snypt> and there is the bedrock about 5 lvls below the diamonds
17:23:45 <Avatar> yeah I read diamonds are 2-14 levels above bedrock
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17:25:18 <snypt> sweet ill keep that in mind
17:25:35 <Brunius> Cable is definetely not normal
17:25:54 <Avatar> also uh
17:26:03 <Avatar> killing zombie pigs in the nether sometimes drops gold nuggets
17:26:06 <Avatar> which you can exchange for gold ingots
17:26:11 <Avatar> which you can turn into powered rails
17:26:17 <snypt> nice
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18:23:05 <Brunius> Avatar, messager Darkwhite on Google+
18:23:15 <Brunius> message*
18:30:01 <Ballig> Brunius: how much ram did your new computer have
18:31:45 <Brunius> It has 4GB now
18:32:05 <Ballig> ahh okay
18:32:07 <Brunius> AND (get this) Windows uses all of it
18:32:07 <Ballig> so you don't want my 4GB?
18:32:29 <Brunius> How many sticks is it in?
18:32:32 <Ballig> 2
18:32:39 <Brunius> No thanks
18:32:47 <Brunius> I've already got two sticks of 2gb :)
18:32:50 <Ballig> yeah I replaced it with two 4GB sticks a couple of months ago
18:32:55 <Ballig> how many slots on your motherboard
18:32:57 <Ballig> some have 4
18:32:59 <Brunius> Two
18:33:01 <Ballig> ahh okay
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18:48:04 <Avatar> hey who was that
18:49:24 <Brunius> I recognise the name ~who
18:49:28 <Brunius> Can't say from where
18:49:32 <Brunius> They've been here before
18:57:19 <Avatar> Brunius: grolschmir is a druid, but roc isn't on the druid's animal choices either
18:57:32 <Avatar> don't know if there's another book that gives additional choices
18:57:59 <Ballig> there's another list
18:58:02 <Ballig> I think it's in the APG
18:58:07 <Ballig> or it might be in the bestiary
18:58:25 <Ballig> and roc is on that other list
18:58:38 <Avatar> where is it
18:58:43 <Ballig> either the APG or bestiary
18:58:46 <Avatar> can't find it in the APG either
18:59:17 <Ballig> page 316 of the bestiary
18:59:26 <Ballig> Appendix 7: Animal Companions
18:59:49 <Ballig> you can have a dolphin
18:59:58 <Ballig> or a tyrannosaurus
19:00:40 <Avatar> that also says rangers can take them
19:00:44 <Ballig> yeah
19:00:46 <Avatar> but the PFS rule that brunius linked says they can't
19:00:51 <Ballig> which rule
19:01:20 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/faq#v5748eaic9oet
19:01:47 <Ballig> that may not be up to date
19:02:11 <Avatar> last updated nov 17th 2011
19:02:43 <Ballig> I would think the bestiary trumps, unless it's a specific restriction for PFS
19:03:13 <Avatar> how can the bestiary trump a PFS-specific FAQ updated 11 days ago
19:04:48 <Ballig> because the bestiary is an actual source
19:04:50 <Ballig> the FAQ is a FAQ
19:05:06 <Avatar> based on the rules man
19:05:10 <Ballig> it's still a FAQ
19:05:12 <Ballig> that's just how rules go man
19:05:16 <Ballig> there's a hierarchy
19:05:27 <Ballig> unless it's a specific PFS rule, the bestiary would trump an online FAQ
19:05:45 <Avatar> I don't believe that at all
19:05:50 <Ballig> and you'd require specific clarification as to whether it's an intentional, specific PFS rule
19:05:54 <Ballig> you don't have to believe it
19:05:56 <Avatar> it would be a specific PFS rule
19:06:03 <Ballig> you also don't have to believe that gravity keeps you on the ground
19:06:06 <Ballig> doesn't make it any less true
19:06:09 <Avatar> "Pathfinder Society Frequently Asked Questions"
19:06:17 <Ballig> you would need clarification man
19:06:25 <Ballig> the FAQ is too vague on that subject
19:06:32 <Avatar> the only clarification I need is if that applies to druids as well as rangers
19:06:36 <Avatar> it doesn't mention druids at all
19:06:39 <Ballig> the FAQ /should/ say that even though the bestiary says there is an expanded list for rangers, it is not allowed in PFS
19:06:44 <Ballig> not say that there is no expanded list for rangers
19:06:47 <Ballig> even though the bestiary says there is
19:06:52 <Ballig> therefore, the FAQ is vague, the bestiary trumps
19:07:02 <Ballig> unless there is clarification from someone specifically about PFS
19:07:11 <Avatar> if it says there's no expanded list, that means any other companions aren't allowed
19:07:14 <Avatar> not that no expanded lists exist
19:07:24 <Ballig> no
19:07:27 <Avatar> if you're arguing that, it's a very weak argument
19:07:29 <Ballig> it says there is no list as if there ISN'T a list
19:07:30 <Ballig> but there is
19:07:34 <Ballig> therefore there's a discrepency
19:07:42 <Ballig> whenever there is a discrepency, official published sources trump
19:07:44 <Ballig> /always/
19:07:54 <Avatar> that likely means there is no expanded companion list for PFS
19:07:57 <Avatar> since it is a PFS FAQ
19:08:05 <Avatar> that to me is commonsense
19:08:10 <Ballig> it's too vague to come to that conclusion
19:08:17 <Avatar> I disagree
19:08:22 <Ballig> you can disagree all you like
19:08:24 <Ballig> doesn't mean it's not true
19:08:36 <Avatar> doesn't mean it is
19:08:39 <Ballig> except that it is
19:09:03 <Avatar> except that it probably isn't
19:09:40 <Ballig> get clarification
19:12:08 <Avatar-> yeah I will
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20:11:47 <Jaggedsoul> hello
20:13:27 <Brunius> Sup
20:13:27 <Jaggedsoul> just wanna ask when the next game will be
20:13:27 <Jaggedsoul> I'm available 2pm my time on Saturday
20:15:12 <Jaggedsoul> or Sunday morning
20:16:47 <Jaggedsoul> are we the only ones here?
20:18:27 <Ballig> the next game will be 10am Saturday our time
20:18:27 <Ballig> so 7am your time Saturday, I think
20:44:43 <Avatar-> it's in the topic
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21:39:54 <Avatar> apparently flying mounts can only fly with a light load
21:40:09 <Avatar> and a roc has a str of 12, and its light load limit is 43 pounds
21:40:20 <Avatar> and that weight limit has to include its rider
21:40:36 <Avatar> and Grolschmir is 38 pounds heavy not considering gear
21:45:53 <Avatar> re flying mounts can only fly with a light load: http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderRPG/rules/archives/flyingAndEncumbrance&page=1#4
22:05:19 <Avatar> Mekkis: you have to put your roc's stats on your sheet
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23:35:53 <Avatar> bestiary animal companions are legal in PFS: http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderSociety/general/availableAnimalCompanions
23:36:00 <Avatar> for druid
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