// #d&d — 2011-11-13
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08:13:46 <Avatar> I think maybe people don't like playing on sundays
08:13:59 <Avatar> at least not when they've played on the saturday
08:24:35 <Mekkis> mmm?
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08:25:00 <Avatar> Brunius_: playing today?
08:25:19 Brunius_ is now known as Brunius
08:25:30 <Brunius> Nope
08:25:39 <Avatar> you're missing out
08:25:42 <Avatar> ...!
08:27:06 <Brunius> Meh
08:56:57 <Mekkis> .....
09:01:55 <Avatar> yeah I think we're going to have to find someone to hassle to come play if we're going to game today
09:02:33 <Mekkis> mmm
09:21:10 <MekkisScreen> like?
09:21:28 <Avatar> Eidren seems to be bailing out, he thinks it takes up way too much time
09:22:16 <Avatar> actually he said uh
09:22:22 <Avatar> 'such a short game'
09:22:24 <Avatar> 'takes up too much time'
09:22:32 <Avatar> seems a bit contradictory
09:28:15 <Ballig> we can't just bring in a random person with a level 1 character
09:28:20 <Ballig> because none of us want to play tier 1
09:28:50 <Avatar> how else do we play
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09:43:34 <Avatar> do we wait for brunius to want to play
09:43:59 <Avatar> could be a while I think
10:01:00 <MekkisScreen> hmm
10:18:48 <Avatar> you're mmming and hmming a lot today
10:21:59 <MekkisScreen> do you think the games we're playing are well-paed?
10:22:51 <Ballig> I don't get paed at all
10:22:59 <Ballig> you're getting paed to play?
10:29:31 <Avatar> wats paed
10:30:14 <Ballig> you don't want to get paed for playing?
10:31:29 <MekkisScreen> paced
10:31:36 <MekkisScreen> sorry
10:51:28 <Ballig> I think they're better-paced when we use skype
10:51:39 <Mekkis> true
10:51:54 <Ballig> I think Avatar types at 15wpm
10:57:29 <Avatar> what
10:57:30 <Avatar> I type fast
11:00:01 <Mekkis> play the typing of the dead
11:05:40 <Avatar> what are you talking about
11:05:52 <Mekkis> it's a game
11:07:30 <Avatar> ?????
11:09:07 <Mekkis> where you type to kill zombies
11:10:44 <Avatar> why not just play a real zombie game
11:13:22 <Ballig> because you were discussing how fast you type
11:13:29 <Ballig> not how fast you click
11:15:01 <Avatar> I don't know what this is all about but I don't like it
12:13:27 <Mekkis> have any of you done Murder on the Throaty Mermaid?
12:13:55 <Ballig> nope
14:20:54 <Ballig> Avatar: do you ever use earphones with your galaxy?
14:51:44 <Avatar> yeah all the time
14:51:53 <Avatar> I watch movies on it during my lunch breaks
14:53:46 <Avatar> Mekkis: I haven't either
14:54:20 <Avatar> are you doing PFS next saturday
14:55:07 <Avatar> I'll do it on sunday if LSK doesn't happen saturday night
14:55:23 <Avatar> assuming players are here
14:56:41 <Ballig> Avatar: have you noticed that notification messages (text, email, etc) come through the speaker as well as the earphones?
14:58:26 <Mekkis> Avatar, given the choice, I'd rather step out from behind the screen
14:58:47 <Mekkis> but I'm willing to run it if noone else will
15:00:34 <Avatar> Ballig: no they don't
15:00:47 <Ballig> they sure do
15:00:53 <Avatar> not for me
15:01:00 <Ballig> do you use the original earphones?
15:01:04 <Avatar> no
15:01:07 <Ballig> then they do
15:01:15 <Avatar> I don't think that changes anything
15:01:37 <Ballig> https://www.google.com/search?q=notification+sound+android+earphones&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
15:02:01 Avatar has changed the topic to: http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm | PFS: Sat 19th 10am (Avatar) | LSK: Sat 19th 8.30pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before!
15:03:45 <Avatar> I have my phone on vibrate during the day
15:04:24 <Ballig> obviously if your phone is on silent you don't get notification sounds at all
15:04:28 <Ballig> so why were you telling me I was wrong
15:05:06 <Avatar> well who would have their phone on not-vibrate during the day
15:05:23 <Avatar> that seems inconsiderate to other workers
15:05:36 <Mekkis> I don't
15:05:48 <Mekkis> as in, I don't put mine on silent
15:05:49 <Avatar> seems inconsiderate
15:06:06 <Mekkis> well
15:06:10 <Mekkis> it doesn't ring much
15:06:25 <Ballig> I have mine on silent while I'm at work, but not while I'm on the bus
15:06:29 <Ballig> where I expect to get messages
15:06:31 <Mekkis> and the ringtone's a modem negotiating, so people think it's a fax machine
15:06:42 <Avatar> use vibrate
15:06:48 <Ballig> no I want to hear the notification
15:06:54 <Avatar> yeah but nobody else does
15:07:01 <Ballig> then android needs to fix the bug with earphones
15:07:22 <Ballig> if I have my earphones in I expect /ALL/ sounds to go through the earphones
15:07:37 <Avatar> there's probably an app for that
15:08:38 <Ballig> there isn't
15:10:10 <Avatar> might have to root your phone
15:10:22 <Ballig> nothing has suggested that would fix it
15:10:27 <Ballig> I don't jump to brick my phone like you do
15:10:34 <Avatar> my phone isn't bricked
15:10:43 <Avatar> it's quite the opposite actually
15:13:41 <Ballig> you've come pretty close more than once
15:14:06 <Avatar> having it not work until you fix it isn't really coming close
15:14:18 <Avatar> it's not like I was stuck and clueless as to what to do next
15:14:31 <Avatar> and I'm not even that bright when it comes to these things
15:15:39 <Ballig> that is coming close
15:15:46 <Ballig> the only difference between that and brick is the not being able to fix it part
15:16:00 <Avatar> that is a huge difference
15:16:06 <Avatar> that is ALL the difference
15:16:06 <Ballig> it's the only difference
15:16:08 <Ballig> therefore it's close
15:16:25 <Avatar> that's the difference between being bricked and being not at all bricked
15:16:37 <Ballig> no, the difference between that is not breaking your phone to begin with
15:16:39 <Ballig> you phone breaker
15:16:48 <Avatar> phone rooter you mean
15:16:54 <Avatar> they sound similar but they are not
15:17:12 <Avatar> what version of android are you on
15:18:35 <Ballig> kernel version 2.6.32.9
15:20:05 <Avatar> what firmware version
15:20:20 <Ballig> 2.2
15:20:59 <Avatar> latest is 2.3.4 I think
15:21:05 <Ballig> seems irrelevant
15:21:10 <Avatar> does updating via kies work for oyu
15:21:27 <Ballig> kies always crashed on me
15:21:59 <Avatar> yeah you can update manually
15:22:17 <Avatar> best way to do it
15:22:22 <Ballig> I don't see a need to update unless they have actually fixed the bug
15:22:25 <Ballig> which it doesn't seem they have
15:22:42 <Avatar> I will test shortly
15:24:05 <Ballig> android.com says android 4 is out
15:24:23 <Avatar> yeah but they roll it out to phones slowly
15:24:40 <Ballig> so what happened to 3.0, 3.1, 3.2?
15:24:40 <Avatar> for the galaxy it's not due until Q2 2012 I think
15:24:49 <Avatar> that's honeycomb, it was only made for tablets
15:26:24 <Ballig> android.com doesn't seem to have a changelog
15:27:15 <Avatar> yeah you're right, comes through the speaker
15:28:52 <Ballig> it's a pain in the ass when you're chatting to someone on gtalk
15:28:55 <Ballig> which uses a notification sound
15:29:09 <Ballig> you have to keep gtalk active and the screen unlocked just so it doesn't make a stupid sound on the bus
15:29:26 <Avatar> just set it to vibrate
15:30:12 <Avatar> since I got my new machine, I seem to be using more memory, even though I'm running the same applications
15:30:22 <Avatar> like a gig more
15:32:58 <Mekkis> did you upgrade to win7?
15:33:03 <Mekkis> or upgrade any other apps?
15:33:19 <Avatar> I was using win7 before
15:33:24 <Avatar> didn't upgrade anything else
15:33:44 <Mekkis> I've found that 6GB seems to be the amount of RAM I tend to use
15:33:54 <Mekkis> be it windows or linux
15:34:00 <Mekkis> laptop or desktop
15:34:07 <Ballig> Avatar: I'm not setting it to vibrate because I need to know when I get a message
15:34:13 <Mekkis> unless virtual machines come into play
15:35:40 <Avatar> messages will vibrate
15:36:40 <Ballig> I never feel my phone vibrate
15:36:52 <Avatar> is your leg numb
15:40:03 <Ballig> I don't keep my phone in my pants pocket
15:42:28 <Avatar> maybe you should rethink that strategy
15:48:07 <Ballig> I hate having earphone wires coming from a pants pocket to my ears
15:48:11 <Ballig> it gets in the way
15:48:14 <Avatar> I must say, I'm drooling over my newly-levelled up character now
15:52:23 <Mekkis> run Ambush at Absalom
15:54:34 <Mekkis> We have no idea what the real objectives are of the missions we are being sent upon are. We have no real idea what the secretive hidden masters of the Pathfinder Society are really up to. What sort of information are they really looking for? What secrets are they hoarding for themselves? How many Pathfinders have turned over fragments of lore or unknowably ancient relics, only to vanish under mysterious circumstances (or be promptly 'rewarded' with
15:54:34 <Mekkis> an assignment that is certain death)? What sorts of information are the leaders of the Pathfinder Society covering up and what sorts of missions / explorations / expeditions are they *discouraging?*
15:55:26 <Mekkis> The history of Golarion is full of fantastic opportunities. We know that the Osirioni had literal god-kings, who somehow tapped into ancient power, power that the current rulers of Osirion would like to tap into once again (and that the Pathfinder Society is all too willing to help them unearth, but to aid them in their goals, to seize the god-like power for themselves, or to destroy it for all time, so that nobody can have it?). We know that the A
15:55:26 <Mekkis> zlanti ruins have the potential for incredible artifacts to be uncovered. We know that the Thassilonian ruins have similar potential. Somewhere out there is a device or procedure that allowed the Thassilonians to enslave black dragons.
15:55:26 <Mekkis> Gosh, who wouldn't want that little toy?
15:55:26 <Mekkis> Are the Pathfinders just the field agents for Golarion's own Warehouse 13? Or are the items and fragments of lore they unearth being used to assemble something, to secure the power of hooded figures that no Pathfinder knows by name?
16:51:51 <Avatar> I'd rather not run another campaign I haven't played if I can help it
17:02:19 <Mekkis> fair enough
17:02:26 <Mekkis> I'll check what I haven't run
17:02:51 <Mekkis> Avatar, next con we need to not play in the same scenarios :)
17:08:47 <Mekkis> Ah
17:08:57 <Mekkis> I finally found the font they use for the word Andoran
17:11:02 <Avatar> yeah :P
17:13:34 <Mekkis> Perils of the Pirate Pact
17:13:38 <Mekkis> Decline of Glory
17:13:49 <Mekkis> Tide of Morning
17:14:03 <Mekkis> Before The Dawn Pt 2
17:14:15 <Mekkis> Murder on the Silken Caravan
17:14:19 <Mekkis> Fortune's Blight
17:14:26 <Mekkis> Slage Pits of Absalom
17:14:41 <Mekkis> Rebel's Ransom
17:14:51 <Mekkis> Cult of Ebon Destroyers
17:14:58 <Mekkis> Sarkorian Prophecy
17:15:10 <Mekkis> Murder on the /Throaty Mermaid/
17:15:17 <Mekkis> Hall of Drunken Heroes
17:15:24 <Mekkis> Penumbral Accords
17:15:33 <Mekkis> Godsmouth Heresy
17:15:40 <Mekkis> First Steps II and III
17:15:51 <Mekkis> Wrath of the Accursed
17:16:01 <Mekkis> Shadow's Last Stand—Part I: At Shadow's Door
17:16:10 <Mekkis> Sewer Dragons of Absalom
17:16:19 <Mekkis> Which ones of those haven't you played?
17:19:21 <Avatar> all of them
17:19:26 <Avatar> except uh
17:19:36 <Avatar> slave pits of absalom and before the dawn 2
17:19:43 <Avatar> I think
17:20:12 <Avatar> sorry, I've played before the dawn 1 but not 2
17:24:40 <Mekkis> would you play Cult of the Ebon Destroyers?
17:25:32 <Avatar> I'll play anything
17:25:36 <Avatar> except darkest vengeance
17:25:53 <Mekkis> it's a sanctioned module
17:25:57 <Avatar> there's no point throwing out titles and asking if I'd play them, why wouldn't I
17:26:04 <Mekkis> you'll need to artificially level your character to 8
17:26:05 <Avatar> oh uh
17:26:14 <Avatar> like a full campaign?
17:26:23 <Mekkis> like Crypt of the Everflame
17:26:40 <Avatar> and we don't have to put our characters on hold for that?
17:26:44 <Mekkis> except more likely to result in your character's death
17:26:59 <Avatar> but with no actual effect on my character?
17:27:06 <Mekkis> nope
17:27:14 <Mekkis> he'll just die multiple times
17:27:20 <Avatar> I guess so
17:27:23 <Avatar> those ones are always better
18:24:21 <Mekkis> it was written by Matt
18:25:27 <Mekkis> Matt "killer DM" Goodall
19:09:51 <Avatar> fucking goodall
19:18:09 <Mekkis> mmm?
19:18:22 <Mekkis> has he DMed you?
19:39:13 <Avatar> mmm?
19:39:15 <Avatar> no?
19:40:07 <Mekkis> Where in Golarion do you want to visit next?
19:44:43 <Avatar> somewhere safe
19:53:27 <Mekkis> leave the pathfinder society then
19:53:30 <Mekkis> oh
19:53:38 <Mekkis> you could return to the Museum!
20:00:29 <Avatar> I just want some sweet exp
20:00:53 <Avatar> UNLIKE SOME
20:31:04 <Avatar> wonder if I can rope kitch into playing
20:31:13 <Avatar> do we know anyone with kids who plays
20:31:15 <Avatar> online
20:33:39 <Ballig> proquar used to
20:34:19 <Ballig> used to play, not used to have kids
20:34:22 <Ballig> pretty sure her kids are still alive
20:36:08 <Avatar> what
20:36:16 <Avatar> I mean like little kids
21:33:51 <Mekkis> hmmm
21:33:57 <Mekkis> Buck's Grand Lodge right?
21:34:05 <Mekkis> and level 3 right?
21:34:13 <Avatar> yep
21:35:08 <Mekkis> I've played two season 3 scenarios
21:35:25 <Mekkis> Frostfur, and Sewer Dragons
21:35:27 <Avatar> it doesn't bother me doing osirion missions if need be
21:38:42 <Mekkis> does it bother Buck?
21:39:40 <Avatar> no :P
21:40:45 <Mekkis> why not?
21:44:48 <Avatar> just doesn't
21:45:10 <Avatar> if you start looking into the why of this, you can start asking why grand lodge doesn't give out faction missions for it
21:45:25 <Avatar> and if you think the answer to that is to revoke my PA, think again
21:45:52 <Mekkis> I can answer that:
21:46:40 <Mekkis> chronologically, the grand lodge hasn't got to the point where it has been making a concerted effort to remain whole. That didn't start until the end of Season 2
21:47:59 <Mekkis> Originally, it was Andoran, Cheliax, Osirion, Qadira and Taldor trying to increase their nation's influence over the inner sea's politics
21:48:14 <Mekkis> and using the Pathfinder Society as a front for this
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21:48:24 <Mekkis> In season 3, things changed
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22:06:31 <Mekkis> I'm not suggesting revoking your PA
22:07:09 <Mekkis> I'm asking you to give me some reason why your character would wish to do missions to further the Osirion cause
22:10:43 <Mekkis> For example, Nightmare's a member of the Lantern Lodge, and he isn't really interested in Qadiran goals. If given a Qadiran mission, he won't go out of his way to accomplish it
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22:11:39 <Avatar> that's essentially what I mean by revoking PA
22:12:28 <Avatar> I guess the simplest reason is that doing an osirion mission gets me grand lodge prestige
22:12:31 <Avatar> that's as good a reason as any
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22:13:04 <Mekkis> I'm asking more for an in-character reason from Buck's perspective
22:13:21 <Mekkis> strange: I wonder what Sachiru was doing
22:17:34 <Avatar> that is an in-character reason
22:17:59 <Mekkis> so you're effectively a mercenary
22:18:16 <Avatar> yeah I guess
22:20:32 <Mekkis> fair enough
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