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48:57 <Ballig> Mekkis: I'd be hesitant
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28:58 <Avatar> I wouldn't recommend it
00:39 <Mekkis> I think being fearful of one's character's survival is a good thing from time to time
01:01 <Avatar> good attitude
01:38 <Mekkis> like, every time I play Mytiazair
16:34 <Mekkis> (regardless, Mytiazair has 9 scenarios before retirement, and sufficient prestige for 2 raise deads...)
32:16 <Avatar> nothing like a game of bf3 before work
38:03 <Mekkis> %spellinfo wind wall
51:28 <Avatar> any of you going to try SWTOR
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14:23 <Avatar-> social networking sites are a great way to identify people who should not be near technology
23:45 <MekkisScreen> what? anyone who uses them?
29:33 <Avatar-> people who click on dodgy links
33:08 <MekkisScreen> ah
33:16 <MekkisScreen> everyone who uses social networking
55:27 <Avatar-> cmon
55:36 <Avatar-> don't be that cynical
00:06 <MekkisScreen> you've got to be crazy giving your personal information out likethat
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11:29 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: can you make it this Saturday?
16:15 <Avatar-> what, your full name
25:32 <Brunius> For PFS, not at this point
49:05 <MekkisScreen> yes, avatar
03:21 <Brunius> Mekkis: How much do I owe you?
16:32 <Avatar-> one million dollars
17:40 <Brunius> I thought I said Mekkis, not Avatar
20:01 <Avatar-> oh you did too I missed that maybe
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13:58 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: 13.70
14:22 <MekkisScreen> should arrive tomorrow or the day after
14:35 <Brunius> Do I have your account details?
14:44 <MekkisScreen> nope...
18:14 <Avatar-> it's a gift
18:28 <Avatar-> I'm heading home for a while
18:34 <Brunius> Ha
18:49 <Brunius> A while = until you get another job?
28:03 <Avatar-> I'll go back later this afternoon
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25:33 <Avatar> https://plus.google.com/111797291613060149488/posts
57:43 <MekkisScreen> what's the general atmosphere at your office, Avatar?
59:53 <Avatar> nobody knows what's going on
00:01 <Avatar> more people are away every day
00:17 <Avatar> we've been told to work as if it's business as usual, but nobody can really do their job
00:39 <Avatar> management still doesn't give us any direction
00:58 <Avatar> if something comes up that we can't handle, we escalate it and never hear about it again and don't know what to do the next time around
01:31 <Avatar> time to head back in, I think
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18:45 <Avatar-> newbie guide looks pretty bad on mobile
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26:08 <Avatar-> it's official, I'm unemployed
26:50 <BossMan> ouch
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27:00 <Brunius> sup yo
27:56 <Avatar-> lost my job yo
28:27 <Brunius> Blasphemy. Telemarketers cannot lose their jobs.
30:23 <Avatar-> wasn't a telemarketer
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51:04 <Ballig> Avatar: that sucks
51:20 <Avatar> at least now I can look for jobs easier
51:27 <Avatar> actually going to work was the big thing stopping me
51:35 <Ballig> ha
51:39 <Avatar> I did say at one point I might just quit first and look later
51:47 <BossMan> well at least you didn't get fired
51:53 <BossMan> for poor performance or something
51:54 <Ballig> so tomorrow you'll be filling out selection criteria all day?
52:02 <Avatar> pretty much
52:18 <Avatar> I actually thought we had another day
52:45 <Avatar> apparently there were other issues of dodginess that made it even harder to find a buyer
53:13 <Ballig> probably huge amounts of nepotism
00:15 <BossMan> probably financial records
00:31 <BossMan> which is why they got into the spot they were in
01:30 <Avatar> there were lots of reasons
03:02 <Ballig> Avatar: I'd suggest checking out work in Canberra too
03:07 <Ballig> if you stay just looking at Melbourne it will take longer
03:27 <Ballig> unless you particularly don't want to move
08:33 <Avatar> well I particularly don't
08:38 <Avatar> but I will still be looking
15:48 <Mekkis> Avatar, so I shouldn't book flights for arcanacon yet?
16:40 <Mekkis> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1733125/
19:07 <Avatar> why wouldn't you book flights for arcanacon
19:27 <Mekkis> well, you might not be there
19:28 <Mekkis> :S
22:28 <Avatar> the others still will
22:40 <Avatar> in all likelihood I will be
30:28 <Mekkis> hmm
30:32 <Mekkis> true that
31:12 <Ballig> and/or maybe Avatar will go to Melbourne for arcanacon too
31:24 <Mekkis> hn
31:26 <Avatar> that's less likely
31:42 <Avatar> I don't know how you manage to fly around for cons man
31:50 <Mekkis> what do you mean?
31:54 <Avatar> maybe if I get paid more in a new job
32:07 <Mekkis> I don't waste money on computer games :S
32:14 <Avatar> touchè
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35:43 <Brunius> Sup yo
35:45 <Mekkis> osex?
35:52 <Brunius> No idea
35:58 <Brunius> It's the default nick it chucked at me
36:10 <Mekkis> heh
36:22 <Mekkis> I hope you have a heatsink
36:29 <Mekkis> I just realise I didn't send one
36:34 <Brunius> I think I do
36:36 <Brunius> Actually
36:38 <Brunius> :D
36:50 <Brunius> What did you end up sending?
37:12 <Mekkis> a motherboard, a CPU and a stick of RAM
37:45 <Ballig> I think it was nosex
37:47 <Ballig> with an errant 9
40:47 <Brunius> And idea what the original PSU was like, Mekkis?
49:20 <Mekkis> circa 2004
49:36 <Mekkis> ATX24 with 12V connector
50:04 <Brunius> wattage?
50:17 <Mekkis> about 300, but why are you asking?
50:31 <Brunius> Trying to source one
50:36 <Mekkis> you don't have one?
50:53 <Brunius> I might.
57:14 <Brunius> Mekkis: Both of the current PSUs I have are 225W :S
57:28 <Mekkis> are they really 225W?
57:46 <Brunius> As far as I can tell
58:12 <Mekkis> how heavy are they?
58:32 <Brunius> I dunno, they're both in a case atm
59:25 <Brunius> I'll go check it out
59:25 <Brunius> See you guys later
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04:51 <Brunius> How heavy would you expect a 225W PSU to be, Mekkis?
04:57 <Mekkis> depends
05:11 <Mekkis> are you talking a 225W PSU, or a "225W" PSU?
05:52 <Brunius> It's marked as max 225W on the case
08:29 <Mekkis> I'd expect a PSU to weigh at least 800g, probably more
08:42 <Mekkis> if it's a "225W" PSU, all bets are off
09:01 <Mekkis> you know the difference between a cheap 250W PSU and a cheap 750W PSU is?
09:20 <Brunius> Nothing?
09:24 <Avatar> 500W
09:30 <BossMan> lol
09:41 <Avatar> cmon brunius I thought you were smart
09:57 <Mekkis> the number on the sticker
10:14 <Avatar> +500W 
10:18 <Avatar> cmon mekkis I thought you were smart
10:28 <Brunius> It's cheap man
10:33 <Brunius> Nobody cares what it
10:36 <Brunius> 's rated for
10:40 <Brunius> Argh
10:52 <Ballig> http://www.directron.com/table1.html
11:06 <Ballig> actually what it's rated for can make a difference to a lot of your components
11:22 <Brunius> Yeah
11:22 <Ballig> for example, good video cards
11:55 <Brunius> It seems about 2kgs, at a guess, Mekkis
12:25 <Brunius> Antec 350W, $45. Good idea or bad?
12:36 <Mekkis> how much does it weigh?
12:45 <Mekkis> and what type of Antec?
13:06 <Mekkis> (generally Antec's a pretty trustworthy brand, but $45 is a little suspicious)
13:53 <Brunius> http://www.scorptec.com.au/computer/21324-bp350
15:07 <Mekkis> looks pretty decent
33:18 <BossMan> man that new CA is cool
33:21 <BossMan> lines really help
33:39 <Brunius> But will it run Crysis?
42:11 <Ballig> no CA won't run crysis
43:39 <Avatar> maybe it should
50:18 <Mekkis> why?
50:25 <Mekkis> to ensure that Brunius can't play?
50:42 <Mekkis> Avatar, are you officially unemployed yet?
52:03 <Brunius> later guys
52:15 <Avatar> yeah
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52:53 <Mekkis> as in, centerlink registered?
53:04 <Avatar> ah, no
54:55 <Mekkis> then you're not official. You're not part of the unemployment statistics
55:04 <Mekkis> The Australian Government thanks you :)
56:43 <Avatar> they're welcome?
56:45 <Avatar> wait, what
57:04 <Mekkis> high unemployment statistics makes the government look bad
57:34 <Avatar> well they're about to get quite a bit higher with a whole company of people out of work
57:40 <Mekkis> mmm
14:47 <BossMan> yeah there's some I'm having to introduce to the ranks of the unemployed
15:28 <BossMan> clients are cutting back hours and all that
16:14 <BossMan> these clients want to cut back to 4 and 5 hr shifts but they just can't seem to understand why it's hard for me to provide them people
16:52 <BossMan> nobody wants to work 6 days a week for 30 hrs
18:14 <BossMan> so I'm cutting some clients loose
18:46 <BossMan> getting more patrol accounts..and we're going to start doing cameras and monitoring and alarm response
19:30 <BossMan> if all these clients want to do is have their little insurance discount..and cheap out on security..fine
19:37 <Ballig> just rob them when they don't have patrols
19:50 <BossMan> we'll install cameras and monitor them and do alarm response and fuck em
20:13 <BossMan> well it makes it hard when clients don't know shit
20:15 <Ballig> nah just give them their security, and rob them when you know they don't have any
20:57 <BossMan> they want a guy on their property..but then they want them for 5 hrs..and gee none of my people want to work 5 hrs shifts
21:11 <BossMan> then the clients want to save money so they switch to patrol
21:21 <BossMan> and then it's like "this happened on my property I pay for security"
21:35 <BossMan> no you don't pay for security..our patrol service..is a courtesy.. not security
31:55 <BossMan> and Ballig: we actually had a company get the brilliant idea to do that kind of shit..got caught and shut down and all sorts of shit
32:19 <Avatar> as you would
32:48 <Ballig> their problem was that they got caught
33:09 <BossMan> no we're just gonna start installing cameras and doing the monitoring..and.. if shit happens to them oh well..we'll turn the tapes over to cops and there you go
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27:38 <Mekkis> what stereotypically evil playable races exist, other than drow?
28:24 <Avatar> vampire
28:40 <BossMan> Duergar?
30:53 <BossMan> bugbears... full blood orcs
30:55 <BossMan> ogres
31:04 <BossMan> goblins
31:17 <Mekkis> hmmm
31:38 <BossMan> minotaurs.. giants
31:42 <Mekkis> vampire are hardly playable, bugbears and orcs and ogres aren't either. Noone takes goblins seriously
32:36 <Mekkis> basically, no LA...
33:29 <Mekkis> Hobgoblin exists...
33:52 <BossMan> lizardmen?
35:10 <Mekkis> possibly
35:17 <Mekkis> in Pathfinder they're N
35:34 <BossMan> oh that's right :) Pathfinder
35:37 <BossMan> forgot :)
36:56 <Avatar> your favourite system 
37:12 <BossMan> yeah no shit :)
37:20 <BossMan> right up there with 4e :)
37:39 <Avatar> ouch
37:43 <Avatar> can't be that bad
37:46 <BossMan> actually I gave 4e a shot at a live table...for 1/2 a game
39:37 <Mekkis> 4e taught me some very important things about roleplaying
44:02 <BossMan> well mostly when I bash on 4e it's in the presence of the 4e fanboys to troll them and get a cheap rise of out them
45:04 <BossMan> but in all honesty.. if I was younger and never have computers or anything like that up until nowadays and my "RPG" experience was things like Morrowwind and Warcraft and the like I could see where D&D going in that direction would appeal to me..or at least make me feel comfortable
46:05 <BossMan> back when I learned in the AD&D 1e days, 1986, I at least had some pretty good experience dealing with text adventures and the like on my commdore..so when it came to D&D while I was definitely not the greatest "creative roleplayer" at the time, it was something I could be familiar with
46:23 <BossMan> I really saw it at the beginning as text adventures with dice and books and character sheets
46:59 <Mekkis> ie: combat in 4e takes so long at levels ass low as 8th, that you should stop and roleplay your way through encounters rather than rolling them out
47:58 * BossMan nods yeah personally I always saw combat in RPGs as something you did when roleplay/diplomacy/whatever either failed to work or was not appropriate.. it should not be what the game is revolving around
48:11 <BossMan> now unless you're just doing a one big ass dungeon crawl or something that's different
48:23 <Mekkis> oh
48:41 <Mekkis> it went so far that even when diplomacy failed, we'd still roleplay it out
49:03 <Mekkis> "They're attacking us? I throw down my weapon and surrender."
49:52 <BossMan> I'm working on a custom variant.. I'll be dismantling PF and Fantasy Craft...and I'll be introducing some other elements.. I want to try to make combat as quick and as ugly as possible..so that if combat does have to happen it's not seen as a burden
50:01 <BossMan> because I do hate long combat stuff
50:11 <Mekkis> Mutants and Masterminds
52:20 <Mekkis> you don't view Pathfinder as "3.5, with a bit of stuff changed"?
52:49 <BossMan> at best... I see Pathfinder as a nice collection of houserules for my 3.5 games
52:57 <BossMan> at worst... I see it as legal plagiarism
52:58 <BossMan> :)
53:39 <Mekkis> how is it plagiarism? they're acknowledging the original source...
53:56 <BossMan> that's why I'm trying to get pebbles to play your game...she wants to learn about tabletop RPGs...and I know you guys are experienced players..even if you have turned your back on 3.5 :)
54:11 <BossMan> plus she's more open minded than I am about it
54:19 <Mekkis> not exactly turned my back: if there are sufficient players, I'd run something 3.5
55:10 <Avatar> I have turned my back
55:22 <Avatar> pathfinder 4eva
55:25 <BossMan> I figure she can enjoy D&D/PF/etc and learn more actually playing games with ya'll then she will watching my game
55:45 <Avatar> ps. LSK is on this saturday night, 3.5 :P
55:52 <Mekkis> :)
56:09 <Mekkis> 23 months now, right?
56:18 <Avatar> who's counting
56:23 <BossMan> plus I put the DM hat back on..and I realized how much I missed it..and I don't figure I'm gonna be taking that hat off for a good long time..regardless of game
56:36 <Mekkis> I am, Avatar 
56:51 <Mekkis> and I am eager to get out from behind the screen :S
56:56 <BossMan> pebbles is actually really looking forward to playing
56:59 <BossMan> with ya'll
57:14 <Mekkis> she should stay in this channel a bit more, methinks
57:28 <BossMan> well she turns off her stuff when she goes to sleep
57:39 <BossMan> but I can make sure she comes in here more often
57:41 * BossMan nods
58:10 <BossMan> start spending more of her time working with ya'll..and less time smiling and giggling at the kids in my room
58:10 <BossMan> :)
58:17 <BossMan> least then she'd learn something useful
58:30 <Mekkis> not mutually exclusive...
58:33 <Mekkis> I imagine
58:47 <BossMan> what do you mean
59:01 <Mekkis> not sure what "your room" is...
59:10 <BossMan> eh :)
59:17 <Mekkis> but most clients can go on multiple servers
59:23 <BossMan> yeah she does
59:32 <BossMan> I can just make sure she spends more focus on here than there
59:34 <BossMan> to learn
00:06 <BossMan> my room is ...um...
00:07 <BossMan> lol
00:13 <BossMan> well it's a different room let's just say that
00:19 <BossMan> Avatar goes there
02:23 <BossMan> but it's a room for tabletop geeks and such..I run my game there..and when we're not gaming we hang out and talk just like ya'll do
02:55 <Mekkis> what times do you run it?
03:18 <BossMan> I run it when all of our schedules work
03:25 <Mekkis> ah
03:29 <BossMan> optimally..every Friday night
04:40 <BossMan> or some weekend.. Fri-Sun sometime is when I gun for
06:48 <Mekkis> Avatar, any news from Kapow or S_M?
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49:30 <Mekkis> http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=203416605626185349678.00048b8645ef50cd9554b&ie=UTF8&t=m&vpsrc=6&source=embed&ll=23.885838,-108.984375&spn=124.201935,225&z=2
52:39 <Mekkis> one might argue that Australia is overrepresented!
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08:14 <BossMan> wow that sucked
16:54 <Mekkis> what?
17:08 <BossMan> just got bumped off
17:24 <Mekkis> you only missed two messages in this channel
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