// #d&d — 2011-11-11
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09:15:09 <Avatar-> ultimate combat arrived
09:20:55 <Avatar-> kimmy
09:21:00 <Avatar-> roll up a character !!
11:19:46 <MekkisScreen> cool
11:19:53 <MekkisScreen> your character's legal now
12:11:15 <Avatar-> yeah
12:20:17 <MekkisScreen> I got Magic of Golarion, and Gnomes of Golarion
12:22:28 <Avatar-> gnomes
12:22:34 <Avatar-> with that racial trait
12:23:04 <MekkisScreen> the gnomish reroll :)
12:23:09 <MekkisScreen> 1/day
12:23:26 <MekkisScreen> I was thinking of building a gnomish diviner
12:23:48 <MekkisScreen> with the gnomish reroll, the faction shirt reroll, and the diviner preroll
12:31:36 <Avatar-> you seen the new newbie page?
13:39:14 <MekkisScreen> nope
13:39:40 <MekkisScreen> does it have something like "don't be overly paranoid"
13:58:13 Topic for #d&d is: http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm | PFS: Sat 12th 10am (Mekkis) / Sun 13th 10am (Avatar) | LSK: Sat 19th 8.30pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before!
13:58:13 Topic for #d&d set by Ballig at Thu Nov 10 18:30:25 2011
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14:31:51 <Avatar-> look at it
14:31:53 <Avatar-> !
14:40:13 <Avatar-> roach confirmed he's not interested in pfs, at least for the time being
14:45:42 <MekkisScreen> Avatar-: there are 10 factions
14:45:46 <MekkisScreen> not 12
14:46:13 <Avatar-> what
14:46:18 <Avatar-> is that true
14:46:44 <Avatar-> grand shadow lantern lodge
14:46:49 <Avatar-> scarzi
14:46:55 <Avatar-> silver crusade
14:47:06 <Avatar-> and...
14:47:55 <Avatar-> andoran cheliax osirion taldor qadira
14:48:20 <Avatar-> I'm sure there was one more for each
14:48:25 <Avatar-> is that the list
15:09:58 <Avatar-> yeah you're right
15:10:16 <Avatar-> there's obviously no point even arguing this with you, you obviously know
15:10:21 <Avatar-> sczarni
15:21:38 <Avatar-> going home
15:21:42 <Avatar-> lol work
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15:32:57 <Avatar-> :o)
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16:07:31 <Brunius> Sup
16:07:43 <Avatar> losing my job
16:08:48 <Brunius> Has Ballig convinced you to move to Canberra yet?
16:09:00 <Brunius> Are there any cons in Canberra?
16:09:26 <Avatar> I'm open to it
16:09:32 <Avatar> but the preference is to stay here
16:09:51 <Avatar> I've already lived in the same city with that joker once and that didn't do me any favours
16:10:28 <Brunius> Heh
16:25:57 <MekkisScreen> hey Brunius
16:26:09 <MekkisScreen> my office is tossing out some PCs
16:26:21 <MekkisScreen> want me to take one for you?
16:26:55 <Brunius> I guess?
16:27:21 <MekkisScreen> mmm?
16:27:59 <Avatar> do you still need one
16:28:13 <Brunius> Yeah :S
16:28:22 <Avatar> Mekkis: when can you bring it here
16:28:33 <Brunius> Apparently it's not the CPU it's the mobo that's screwed
16:29:35 <MekkisScreen> I'll be flying down Australia day
16:29:48 <MekkisScreen> I could probably send it earlier...
16:30:24 <MekkisScreen> I'll see if anything's decent
16:30:50 <Avatar> Brunius: how are you using IRC now
16:32:44 <Brunius> on my dad's computer
16:33:28 <Avatar> can you play PFS on it
16:33:31 <Avatar> tomorrow
16:34:03 <Brunius> Nope
16:34:22 <MekkisScreen> get a nokia smartphone
16:34:32 <MekkisScreen> that runs IRC and DevCA
16:34:32 <Brunius> ffs
16:34:37 <MekkisScreen> :S
16:34:42 <Brunius> So many people want me to get a smartphone
16:35:17 <MekkisScreen> let me guess: I'm the only one who suggests a nokia?
16:35:47 <Avatar> you need a smartphone man
16:35:52 <Brunius> Yep
16:35:58 <Brunius> Why, Avatar?
16:36:07 <Avatar> if you get a normal phone, it's like
16:36:11 <Avatar> buying a CRT monitor
16:36:20 <Brunius> I still use a CRT :D
16:36:47 <Avatar> most of what you use will be data and apps
16:37:33 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: the correct answer should be: "so you can run IRC and DevCA"
16:38:09 <Avatar> something like that
16:40:05 <Avatar> if canine's in tomorrow morning, we have to play
16:40:23 <Avatar> can't wait for brunius and that other joker
16:40:24 <Avatar> eidren
16:40:35 <Avatar> eidren can lead
16:43:06 <MekkisScreen> ok
16:54:17 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: I could probably send you a motherboard/CPU for not too much in the way of shipping
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16:57:06 <Avatar> maybe he doesn't want a computer anymore
16:58:51 <MekkisScreen> maybe not
17:00:57 <Kimmy> *Yawns* Good erm... morning? Arvo? Hi... I need to stop passing out on the couch.
17:02:12 <Avatar> Kimmy
17:02:15 <Avatar> roll up a character !!
17:02:23 <Avatar> arvo
17:05:46 <Avatar> are you doing it
17:07:19 <MekkisScreen> avatar, help me yakcam act like an ultra right-wing conservative
17:09:23 <Avatar> what
17:09:26 <Avatar> what is yakcam
17:14:09 <Kimmy> I'm currently figuring out how to make your devca work.
17:14:26 <Kimmy> And maybe waking up a little. There will be hot tea soon. Hot tea fixes everything!
17:14:30 <Avatar> you connect to the DM
17:14:40 <Avatar> and then the DM does everything on the grid
17:14:43 <Kimmy> Its asking for an address & port?
17:14:47 <Avatar> yeah
17:14:54 <Avatar> hang on
17:15:05 <Avatar> 124.148.151.125
17:15:07 <Kimmy> Okies.
17:15:08 <Avatar> use that
17:15:53 <Avatar> are you in
17:16:42 <Kimmy> I believe so.
17:17:26 <Avatar> do you get it
17:17:31 <Kimmy> So, how do you roll up new characters?
17:17:38 <Avatar> I'm glad you asked
17:17:41 <Avatar> go to that site in the topic
17:17:54 <Avatar> have you played before
17:19:32 <Kimmy> *nods* Lots of experience, just not too much on IRC. Mostly RL and forum experience.
17:20:17 <Kimmy> I can handle Pathfinder as well.
17:21:53 <Avatar> awesome
17:22:17 <Avatar> well get the pathfinder society guide and a char sheet template and away you go
17:22:37 <Ballig> and/or a pregenerated character and away you go even quicker
17:23:04 <Avatar> forget pregens
17:23:06 <Avatar> you know what you're doing
17:23:21 <Ballig> pregens aren't just for when you don't know what you're doing
17:23:23 <Ballig> bobbob is a pregen
17:23:33 <Avatar> yeah but he doesn't have a gun does he
17:23:39 <Avatar> think about it
17:23:45 <Ballig> he has a lance
17:23:50 <Ballig> how much damage does buck do again
17:23:56 <Avatar> lots
17:24:01 <MekkisScreen> real men don't need guns
17:24:07 <Avatar> that is a lie
17:24:21 <Avatar> in any event, kimmy isn't a guy, I don't think
17:24:25 <Ballig> real men do 3d6+30-39 damage
17:24:34 <Avatar> minimum
17:24:44 <Ballig> before criticals
17:25:36 <MekkisScreen> Ballig: strictly speaking, real men are gnomes, right?
17:25:42 <Ballig> yes
17:26:02 <Ballig> imagine the terror in Bobbob's victims' eyes
17:26:06 <Ballig> here comes a gnome, riding a pony
17:26:09 <Ballig> hilarious, right?
17:26:15 <Ballig> and then comes the 40.5 average damage
17:27:03 <MekkisScreen> another gnome swoops down from 60ft doing even more damage...
17:27:17 <Ballig> how embarassed would they be in the afterlife
17:27:26 <Ballig> "yeah, I got one-shotted by a pair of gnomes"
17:28:08 <Kimmy> So, I take it I'm rolling up a normal character from the core book?
17:28:34 <Avatar> mostly
17:28:34 <MekkisScreen> you can take classes out of Apg and UC or UM too...
17:28:37 <Avatar> have you got the PFS guide
17:28:43 <Avatar> chapter 2 is what you want to look at
17:30:45 <Kimmy> Not Pathfinder Society, no.
17:31:00 <Avatar> yeah there is a link in the newbie guide
17:31:09 <Kimmy> I assume its mostly the same as PF though?
17:31:12 <Kimmy> Oh, okies.
17:31:58 <Avatar> yeah there are a few differences
17:32:02 <Avatar> you only get up to level 12
17:32:05 <Avatar> no item creation feats
17:32:07 <Avatar> start with 150gp
17:32:33 <Avatar> it's step by step in chapter 2
17:33:56 <Avatar> has canine been in recently?
17:35:48 <Ballig> Avatar: last time was a little bit after you asked for stirc
17:36:24 <Avatar> that was years ago
17:36:35 <Avatar> what's he getting himself up to
17:36:45 <Avatar> if he's not in tomorrow without notice I won't be impressed
17:41:22 <Ballig> oh yeah, speaking of tomorrow and notice
17:41:29 <Ballig> I have an appointment at 10.15 tomorrow because it was the only time I could get
17:41:33 <Ballig> so I won't be available until 11.15
17:41:53 <Avatar> good 1
17:42:12 <Avatar> `op
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17:42:19 Avatar has changed the topic to: http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm | PFS: Sat 12th 11.15am (Mekkis) / Sun 13th 10am (Avatar) | LSK: Sat 19th 8.30pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before!
17:42:54 <Avatar> I want to finish this scenario so I can finally level up
17:43:13 <Ballig> yeah
17:44:21 <Avatar> I'm happy enough to start earlier than 11.15
17:44:50 <Ballig> you want to start without me?
17:45:17 <Avatar> yes
17:45:26 <Avatar> especially if it'll save us a session
17:45:36 <Avatar> we'll end up taking an hour or so to plan anyway
18:51:18 <Kimmy> Well, I'll be out till 1ish at least tonight, probably more like 3ish. So the 7am session is a bit iffy to try to join. Probably will though - maybe just to lurk. Clerics are ok though.
18:51:44 <Avatar> tomorrow's session is mid way through a scenario
18:51:53 <Avatar> you might have to wait till sunday
18:52:48 <Kimmy> *nods* Then I'll attend and lurk tomorrow evening. Sunday morning I can manage. Presuming I don't break my alarm again.
18:52:50 <Ballig> or he can be here anyway in case someone doesn't show
18:52:53 <Ballig> and then play that character
18:53:10 <Avatar> are you a guy or a girl
18:53:19 <Ballig> seems irrelevant
18:53:29 <Avatar> it is if we are saying he when we mean she
18:53:37 <Ballig> I will still mean he
18:53:46 <Avatar> don't know about that
18:55:54 <Kimmy> Girl. I'm far more girlish when drunk though. But it doesn't matter much. I'll play any character. I'm pretty adaptable.
18:56:54 <Kimmy> So, who do I have to bribe to roll up a Tiefling Paladin? I like their expressive tail. ^_^
18:57:15 <Ballig> you won't be able to in PFS
18:57:25 <Ballig> unless you get a special chronicle sheet from a convention that lets you roll up a tiefling
18:57:35 <Avatar> yeah I have a tengu sheet
18:57:36 <Avatar> do you want it
18:57:40 <Avatar> $50
18:57:46 <Kimmy> Tengu?
18:57:50 <Ballig> tengu are bird men
18:58:06 <Avatar> birds sort of have tails
19:00:16 <Ballig> so what do you do, Kimmy? do you work? study? bum around?
19:00:22 <Ballig> (we call that last one "the spaceshot")
19:00:54 <Kimmy> Run my own business, though the market in my area is failing badly. I pay the bills, but, only just.
19:01:09 <Avatar> that's sort of like my situation
19:01:30 <Kimmy> So I have some free time. I might get a truck license and take an offer to work for the bus company. Pays better than government work.
19:01:50 <Kimmy> I'm fixing myself to buy a house late next year. So, I need a better job.
19:02:24 <Kimmy> As for your special chronicle sheets, I get to pout till january about that.
19:02:33 <Ballig> ha
19:03:00 <Ballig> so you want to be a bus driver?
19:03:10 <Kimmy> No.
19:03:38 <Kimmy> I want $80k a year, with full holidays, benefits and annual leave even if part time.
19:03:48 <Ballig> do you have to drive all over Australia for it
19:03:51 <Ballig> because that's not worth it
19:03:59 <Kimmy> *laughs* No.
19:04:45 <Kimmy> City buses. Plus I'll do tour buses on the side. Those go up and down the coast. But include fre accomadation and meals at all the tourist spots. Free paid holiday for me when I'm not in the bus.
19:05:10 <Kimmy> And the tour buses tend to pay more, in cash... :P
19:05:18 <Ballig> gasp!
19:05:23 <Kimmy> And theres tips too :P
19:05:53 <Avatar> I just want to get 80k doing a spaceshot
19:05:55 <Ballig> what? people tip bus drivers?
19:06:15 <Kimmy> Its not a grand career no. But it pays for a house and makes the bank happy. To be honest, I want to return to studying. So part time bus driving, part time study, get mes a home, makes me happy and I can change careers again later.
19:06:39 <Kimmy> On tour buses they do. Because you are one of 2 people telling them about where to go, what to eat, what to see, what to drink.
19:06:47 <Kimmy> So good advice earns good tips.
19:07:01 <Kimmy> And of course, socialable holiday people like to buy rounds of drinks after.
19:07:42 <Kimmy> And I do have a good taste and knowledge of all the local wines. Pa's a ex-pub owner, so knows everything about everything to drink here :P
19:07:58 <Ballig> I couldn't be a bus driver
19:08:33 <Avatar> me neither
19:08:37 <Avatar> being epileptic and all
19:08:44 <Ballig> yeah that would be an issue
19:08:53 <Ballig> I guess my issue would be no licence
19:09:03 <Avatar> yep another issue
19:09:14 <Avatar> man driving a bus requires you to do so many things
19:09:20 <Avatar> do/be
19:09:32 <Kimmy> *nods* The other thing is, it also gets me a Medium truck license. Which opens a lot of doors work wise.
19:09:50 <Ballig> I just sit at a desk and write strategies
19:11:43 <Avatar> that's sort of how we play too
19:12:01 <Kimmy> *nods*
19:12:12 <Kimmy> I'm more of the spontaneous type.
19:12:27 <Kimmy> Though I do try to plan as a GM.
19:12:42 <Kimmy> But my players... Like to go off plan at every oppurtunity.
19:12:52 <Ballig> ha
19:13:24 <Ballig> just remove their hands
19:15:03 <Kimmy> How very boring and unimagative of you.
19:15:12 <Kimmy> I much prefer torture to brutality.
19:15:15 <Kimmy> ^_^
19:15:33 <Kimmy> I looked into chronicle sheets too.
19:15:40 <Kimmy> I have a plan to get me some of those.
19:15:52 <Avatar> YEP my character likes torture also
19:15:59 <Avatar> wait, no I killed them
19:16:21 <Ballig> well, he was trying to break into Avatar's character's room at the inn
19:16:26 <Kimmy> I regualarly recruit sponsors for the local cons, and GM games at them. I'll just have to go bug Paizo for a box of goodies for the cons. Might snag a few books out of it too to give away.
19:16:29 <Ballig> so he got caught, tried, convicted and lost his hand as punishment
19:17:23 <Kimmy> Your character doesn't lie all that well, does he?
19:17:35 <Ballig> that wasn't my character, that was a player in my campaign
19:22:34 <MekkisScreen> avatar's character got brutally tortured in one game
19:22:52 <Avatar> :|
19:22:52 <MekkisScreen> I felt really bad about that, because really, it wasn't his fault
19:23:16 <Avatar> we didn't plan enough
19:23:30 <Avatar> we won't have that problem tomorrow
19:24:11 <MekkisScreen> you planned a lot
19:24:19 <MekkisScreen> you failed to execute the play
19:24:20 <Avatar> not enough
19:24:24 <MekkisScreen> plan*
19:24:47 <Avatar> that character has to take the Extra Planning feat at 5th level
19:43:56 <MekkisScreen> tell me Avatar, as a DM do yo plan as much as a player?
19:45:15 <Avatar> I don't know
19:45:19 <Avatar> different type of planning
19:52:19 <Kimmy> Be back later peoples! Have fun!
19:54:40 <Avatar> what
19:54:41 <Avatar> who let her leave
20:03:51 <Ballig> you were meant to stop her
20:04:01 <Avatar> I wasn't here, one of you were meant to do it
20:04:09 <Avatar> you, probably
20:04:10 <Ballig> I was busy
20:04:15 <Ballig> pretty sure it was your turn
20:04:44 <Avatar> please, you lot owe me overtime
20:05:14 <Avatar> have you seen the DEATH FROM ABOVE feat
20:05:25 <Avatar> when charging from higher ground, get a +5 to attack
20:05:47 <Avatar> oh wait, in place of the bonuses from chargingand being on higher ground
20:05:50 <Avatar> which is already +3
20:05:56 <Avatar> that is a very weak feat
20:07:53 <Ballig> I already get +5
20:08:06 <Avatar> what, how
20:08:15 <Ballig> cavalier class ability that raises my charge bonus from +2 to +4
20:08:26 <Ballig> and then +1 for higher ground
20:09:37 <Avatar> so basically cavaliers are made to be broken
20:09:52 <Avatar> you take cavalier and it goes "break me!"
20:10:24 <Ballig> I don't think Bobbob said that
20:10:27 <Ballig> I just chose a random pregen
20:10:52 <Avatar> no, the class says it to YOU
20:10:59 <Avatar> it's made to be broken
20:11:33 <Avatar> it's the most sensible chocie for someone that gets a special mount and bonuses to charge
20:11:36 <Avatar> get mounted combat + lance
20:11:49 <Ballig> a fighter can do it
20:12:03 <Avatar> yeah but a fighter doesn't get a free mount and bonuses to charge
20:12:08 <Ballig> a fighter gets three million bonus feats, if he takes "death from above" he gets everything a cavalier does
20:12:20 <Avatar> but he's not MADE for that
20:12:25 <Avatar> you can do it that way
20:12:30 <Ballig> but can also get weapon specialization
20:12:31 <Avatar> but the class doesnt' encourage it
20:12:32 <Ballig> which increases damage
20:12:35 <Ballig> which is multiplied on a charge
20:13:58 <MekkisScreen> a fighter can take a level of cavalier and take the boon companion feat
20:14:54 <MekkisScreen> and a cavalier has issues if he's unmounted or indoors
20:15:00 <Avatar> the point is cavalier actively encourages it
20:15:11 <Avatar> if you 'take a level' that's still the same thing
20:16:04 <Ballig> so cavalier actively encourages even though fighter can do it better, and cavalier is the broken class?
20:16:05 <Ballig> :p
20:16:24 <Avatar> yes
20:16:30 <Avatar> it doesn't matter if fighter 'can do it better'
20:16:35 <Avatar> it doesn't actively encourage brokenness
20:16:41 <Avatar> it lets you choose it
20:16:48 <Avatar> cavalier says break me! break me!
20:17:24 <Avatar> buy a lance! get mounted combat! here we go!
20:17:46 <Ballig> that's specious logic
20:17:47 <Avatar> I do a pretty good class personality, don't I
20:29:39 <MekkisScreen> how is cavalier broken?
20:30:22 <Ballig> because it encourages you to use a lance
20:30:28 <Ballig> (hence his argument is specious)
20:31:39 <MekkisScreen> how are lances broken?
20:33:17 <MekkisScreen> 09:32 < GreyKnight> a bow is fine for a bonded item, roll your own arcane archer
20:33:18 <MekkisScreen> 09:32 < GreyKnight> if "talking to people you can't talk to without your weapons" is a tactical blunder
20:33:22 <MekkisScreen> then I've already endangered myself twice this morning!
20:33:24 <MekkisScreen> 09:35 < GreyKnig
20:33:27 <MekkisScreen> ht> if I was confiscating weapons at the ball I'd probably "deny an old man his
20:33:28 <MekkisScreen> walking-stick", as Gandalf put it. Basically the same thing
20:33:31 <Avatar> a lance and a horse
20:33:35 <Avatar> to do 3d6+x damage
20:33:42 <Avatar> at level, what is it, 3
20:34:01 <MekkisScreen> it forces you to be small or be unable to use it in dungeons
20:34:15 <MekkisScreen> which means str is low
20:34:17 <Avatar> you can squeeze through doors
20:34:40 <MekkisScreen> you can't charge while squeezing
20:34:59 <Ballig> even at small charging in a dungeon is hard
20:35:14 <MekkisScreen> hell, there are a lot of situations in which you can't charge reliably
20:35:55 <Ballig> for example, Avatar, take the final encounter in that game you GMed last
20:35:59 <MekkisScreen> and 3d6+20 damage isn't that much
20:35:59 <Ballig> Bobbob was /fucked/
20:36:04 <Ballig> literally incapable of charging
20:38:37 <Avatar> isolated incident
20:39:14 <Ballig> not at all
20:39:20 <Ballig> most situations are hard to charge in
20:39:37 <Ballig> that was a final encounter (the only one that matters) where it was impossible
20:39:47 <Avatar> I think differently
20:39:58 <Ballig> think about the assault we did on the warehouse in the last game
20:40:02 <Ballig> if I was playing Bobbob, I'd have been useless
20:40:06 <MekkisScreen> you don't hav the depth of experience
20:40:12 <Avatar> you could have went in the front door
20:40:18 <Ballig> he has the depth of experience, he just has the memory of a fruitfly
20:40:27 <Avatar> oh I remember the warehouse
20:40:41 <Ballig> so he never remembers any encounters where it is counter to his point
20:40:42 <MekkisScreen> the only reason Grolshmir can charge often is because his mount flies
20:43:10 <Avatar> your face doesn't remember any encounters where it is counter to the point
20:48:36 <Avatar> and what's happened to snypt
21:14:12 Topic for #d&d is: http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm | PFS: Sat 12th 11.15am (Mekkis) / Sun 13th 10am (Avatar) | LSK: Sat 19th 8.30pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before!
21:14:12 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Fri Nov 11 17:37:48 2011
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21:15:09 <Mekkis> Brunius, alright
21:15:20 <Mekkis> I've got the motherboard, CPU and RAM here
21:15:27 <Mekkis> I should be able to send it on Monday
21:15:35 <Mekkis> want it express, or not?
21:18:36 <Brunius> Nah
21:24:46 <mib_pvnhz7> Uh, hey
21:25:01 <mib_pvnhz7> What's up?
21:25:54 <Mekkis> hey
21:26:01 <Mekkis> want to run PFS now?
21:26:20 <Brunius> I'll probably get told to go to sleep in the next 5-10 minutes
21:26:34 <Mekkis> see, Daylight saving is bad for everyone
21:26:44 <Brunius> It is
21:26:47 <Brunius> I don't see the point
21:27:09 <Brunius> I should write a letter to my local MP
21:29:39 <Brunius> Anyone seen deathnote?
21:30:00 <Mekkis> nope
21:30:13 <Mekkis> but I wholeheartedly support writing letters to your local MP
21:48:02 <Mekkis> http://www.iinet.net.au/candy/
21:48:46 <Brunius> First thing I noticed: Vigilon.
21:48:58 <Brunius> Second: Rubiks Cube
21:49:02 <Brunius> Third: Skyrim Notes
21:50:02 <Mekkis> ah
21:50:07 <Mekkis> you're with internode, not iinet
21:50:33 <Brunius> Yep
21:51:50 <Mekkis> "Yeah, you know, give a man a fish and he's fed for a day, sell a man a fishing rod and he's fed for a week
21:51:57 <Mekkis> – till you release fishing rod 2.0 which doesn't snap with fish heavier than a pound, then he's fed for another week
21:52:00 <Brunius> Ha
21:52:02 <Avatar> mekkis was telling you about how he could get a computer to you, and you left
21:52:08 <Mekkis> – till you release fishing rod 3.0, which doesn't snap on fish heavier that 1.25 pounds, and he's fed for another week, and so on.
21:52:14 <Brunius> Was he?
21:52:18 <Brunius> I had to leave quickly
21:52:18 <Mekkis> You keep paying."
21:52:24 <Brunius> He ended up texting me anyways
21:52:42 <Brunius> Mekkis: Get a shipping quote and I'll send you the money as soon as I can
21:52:50 <Brunius> And it won't be an Avatar ASAP
21:53:06 <Avatar> ha
21:53:07 <Brunius> That is the new term for taking 7 months
21:53:08 <Brunius> An AVATAR ASAP
21:57:14 <Brunius> Later yo
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21:59:27 <Avatar> what do you think of the newbie guide brunius
22:00:18 <Brunius> It's got two columns
22:00:24 <Brunius> I don't know which to read first
22:00:37 <Avatar> knowing that, what are you going to read first
22:00:37 <Brunius> You might also want to mark it as the PFS newbie guide
22:01:00 <Brunius> I ended up reading a bit of the left, then a bit of the right
22:01:03 <Brunius> repeat
22:01:19 <Avatar> might need more spacing
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