// #d&d — 2011-11-14
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06:13:25 <Ballig> Avatar: proquar's kids are like 2, 4 and 6
06:16:05 <Avatar> kids are dumb
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08:26:48 <Avatar-> brunius
08:26:54 <Brunius> Avatar-
08:27:13 <Avatar-> don't you have school
08:27:39 <Brunius> Sick :S
08:27:47 <Avatar-> sweet
08:27:56 <Avatar-> now you can play some games
08:28:15 <Avatar-> I myself played some bf3 this morning before work
08:28:26 <Avatar-> lol "work"
08:28:31 <Brunius> Heh
08:28:35 <Brunius> I can't run BF3....
08:29:08 <Brunius> Nobody happens to have a Windows Vista Home Premium install disk I could borrow,do they?
08:32:42 <Avatar-> why vista
08:33:09 <Avatar-> I have a 7 sp1 disk
08:33:17 <Brunius> because I grabbed a vista install key from school
08:33:29 <Brunius> and by grabbed I mean "forcibly borrowed"
08:34:01 <Avatar-> use an activator
08:52:13 <MekkisScreen> brunius, don't use vista
08:52:22 <MekkisScreen> use XP if you want
08:53:03 <MekkisScreen> Avatar-: if your company's going bust, why not use your sick leave before it's worthless?
08:53:19 <Brunius> Ha
09:00:42 <Avatar-> probably better references this way
09:01:04 <MekkisScreen> true
09:01:10 <Avatar-> it's not something I haven't thought of, believe me
09:02:26 <MekkisScreen> three days?
09:03:11 <MekkisScreen> brunius, why home premium?
09:10:06 <Brunius> Because that's the key I borrowed
09:20:03 <MekkisScreen> how about I send a copy of XP pro with key in the box with your mobo/CPU?
09:22:15 <Brunius> I've got an XP install disk
09:25:54 <MekkisScreen> and?
09:26:07 <MekkisScreen> XP is better than vista
09:29:03 <Brunius> XP can't run BF3
09:29:15 <Avatar-> 7 is better than xp
09:29:40 <Avatar-> don't you want 7 with activation?
09:30:14 <Brunius> I guess...
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09:44:46 <MekkisScreen> brunius, your computer can't run BF3 either...
09:50:42 <Avatar-> it's moot to talk about xp when 7 is better
09:51:15 <Brunius> Quite right, Mekkis. My computer computer atm is 1.7GHz....
09:51:34 * canine struggles not to begin preaching the virtues of linux
09:52:38 <Avatar-> can linux run bf3
09:52:55 <canine> haven't tried.
09:52:56 <canine> maybe
09:53:29 <Avatar-> hey canine, do games on sunday not work for you
09:53:47 <Avatar-> I think we've scheduled a few that you didn't show for
09:54:09 <canine> depends on the weekend
09:54:11 <Avatar-> I don't know your availability
09:55:25 <canine> if it starts around 6-7 pm my time, I'm generally going to be here for it
09:55:32 <canine> it being 7 pm right now.
09:55:51 <canine> well, not necessarily here for it, but its a working time for me
09:56:02 <Avatar-> yeah same time as saturdays
09:56:12 <Avatar-> sat/sun morning for us
09:56:19 <Avatar-> 11 am here
09:56:54 <Avatar-> how much exp you on? 2?
09:56:57 <canine> yeah 2
09:57:02 <Avatar-> cool
09:57:21 <canine> I'm only up for one game a week though. I get burned out too quick if I play more than that.
09:57:33 <Brunius> I doubt linux can run BF3
09:58:05 <canine> Brunius, probably right. A few more months to give the wine devs time to catch up with it maybe
09:58:15 <canine> gaming is the one area that Linux lags behind
09:59:52 <Brunius> Mmmmm
10:00:16 <Avatar-> ok good to know
10:00:28 <Avatar-> re one game a week
10:00:56 <Avatar-> brunius: how does your availability work these days
10:01:19 <canine> but I'll do either saturday or sunday your time, whichever works for you
10:03:10 <Avatar-> cool
10:03:25 <Avatar-> I don't mind either way
10:03:49 <Brunius> It doesn't, Avatar-
10:04:10 <Avatar-> then again, I might even be able to start doing weekday games
10:04:23 <Avatar-> what do you mean
10:04:31 <Avatar-> are you opting out
10:05:07 <Brunius> Yeah
10:05:51 <Avatar-> well this is something
10:05:57 <Avatar-> sick of pfs?
10:06:04 <MekkisScreen> when does yout schooling finish for this year?
10:07:39 <Avatar-> is it because you need to concentrate on school or are you sick of it
10:07:47 <Avatar-> or something else
10:08:49 <Brunius> Because I don't have a computer that I can reliably show up to games with, at least for now
10:09:11 <Brunius> School finishes the 21st of December, I think
10:09:14 <Brunius> Maybe the 22nd
10:10:09 <MekkisScreen> so close to christmas wow
10:10:23 <Avatar-> that's crazy
10:10:24 <MekkisScreen> I'll be sending your computer today...
10:10:46 <Brunius> To be fair, we don't actually do anything from about the start of december onwards
10:10:54 <MekkisScreen> could you SMS me your address again?
10:10:54 <Brunius> We're pretty much just required to show up
10:11:16 <Brunius> Mekkis: Will do.
10:38:30 <MekkisScreen> brunius, what level e+ characters do you have?
10:38:38 <MekkisScreen> 3+
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10:58:15 <Avatar-> he's got a level 4 rogue
10:58:17 <Avatar-> kaleb
10:59:08 <MekkisScreen> but he'd rather retire it?
10:59:39 <Avatar-> not sure
10:59:54 <Avatar-> it's possibly worse than cairo
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11:00:45 <MekkisScreen> brunius, what level 3+ characters do you have?
11:00:46 <Avatar-> possibly also in the same boat though in that he just needs more levels to be useful
11:04:06 <Brunius> Kaleb is level 3
11:04:08 <Brunius> That's it
11:04:41 <MekkisScreen> your other charactter is level?
11:04:44 <MekkisScreen> 2?
11:06:44 <Brunius> Yeah, Derau is level 2 atm
11:07:48 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: run windows 8
11:08:02 <Brunius> No.
11:08:09 <Brunius> I'm not that stupid
11:13:08 <Avatar-> run a mac
11:14:08 <Brunius> No.
11:15:41 <Avatar-> what other obscure or silly os' can we recommend
11:15:47 <Avatar-> run palm os
11:17:02 <Brunius> BeOS
11:17:08 <Brunius> Yellow Dog Linux
11:19:29 <MekkisScreen> you're willing to install vista...
11:19:39 <MekkisScreen> yet you refuse win8
11:19:43 <MekkisScreen> wtf
11:19:56 <Brunius> lol
11:19:58 <MekkisScreen> Avatar-: windows ME or Vista
11:21:47 <Avatar-> vista
11:21:57 <Avatar-> poor choices though
11:22:27 <Avatar-> moot, if you bring 7 into the equation
11:22:40 <Avatar-> better question is 7 or 8?
11:22:43 <canine> Could always go with Haiku or ReactOS
11:22:47 <canine> they're both winners
11:22:52 <Brunius> BeOS, Canine
11:22:58 <Avatar-> at which point the correct answer is still somehow 7 !
11:23:12 <Brunius> Avatar-: Did you find flashlights annoying in BF3?
11:23:17 <canine> haiku > BeOS
11:23:28 <canine> I'd totally use haiku if it were more widely supported
11:23:38 <Avatar-> to use our to have used on you?
11:23:41 <Avatar-> or
11:23:56 <Brunius> http://games.on.net/article/14222/DICE_to_Fix_BF3s_Super-Shiny_Tactical_Lights
11:24:00 <Brunius> They're gonna nerf them
11:24:06 <Avatar-> swype has big problems distinguishing between or and our
11:24:57 <Avatar-> I've heard people say they're brighter than the sun
11:25:07 <Avatar-> they sometimes completely blind you
11:25:12 <Avatar-> not often
11:25:30 <Avatar-> and they draw shitloads of attention to the owner
11:25:56 <Avatar-> if you see a light being shone on you, you just shoot the light
11:26:10 <Avatar-> even though you can't see the shooter at all
11:26:16 <Avatar-> you know where he is
11:26:26 <Avatar-> it's a dead giveaway
11:26:30 <Avatar-> no pun intended
11:26:41 <Avatar-> bf3 is really all about stealth
11:27:21 <Avatar-> but a lot of people use lights because they can disorient pretty well
11:29:20 <Avatar-> the big problem with bf3 is really the level system
11:29:37 <Avatar-> the high level guns are ridiculously good
11:29:55 <Brunius> Played Bad Company 2?
11:30:07 <Brunius> It's ridiculous what a decent sniper can do with the GOL in that
11:30:22 <Avatar-> I'm level 11 and my guns are no match against the level 30 guns which give thermal vision
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11:30:41 <Avatar-> you look through the scope and just can't possibly miss anyone
11:31:05 <Avatar-> stealth becomes redundant for the target
11:31:37 <Avatar-> I couldn't get into bad company at all
11:31:48 <Avatar-> I was actually worried bf3 would be the same
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12:02:40 <MekkisScreen> I think that levelling shouldn't give you any advantage in an FPS
12:03:29 <canine> then why have leveling?
12:04:27 <Brunius> To show off how awesome you are
12:04:38 <Avatar-> yeah you can't be serious
12:04:57 <Avatar-> oh, in an fps
12:05:05 <Avatar-> I thought you said in pfs
12:05:43 <Avatar-> the problem is that bf3 doesn't keep unlocked weapons balanced
12:05:56 <Avatar-> tf2 (mostly) does
12:09:39 <Brunius> TF2 doesn't have a levelling system
12:09:51 <Brunius> It has an unlock system, but not a levelling system
12:10:13 <Brunius> I think I prefer the BF2 system of levelling
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12:10:41 <Brunius> Hey Bossman
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12:11:55 * pebbles{BM} smiles seeing Master BossMan, whispers softly
12:12:01 <pebbles{BM}> Greetings Master
12:12:03 <BossMan> hello pebbles
12:12:59 * pebbles{BM} smiles seeing Master Mekkis, whispers softly
12:13:08 <pebbles{BM}> Greetings Master
12:14:33 * pebbles{BM} smiles seeing Master Avatar, whispers softly
12:14:40 <pebbles{BM}> Greetings Master
12:14:54 * pebbles{BM} smiles seeing Master Ballig, whispers softly
12:14:55 <Avatar-> not your master
12:15:03 <pebbles{BM}> Greetings Master
12:15:26 * pebbles{BM} smiles seeing Master Brunius, whispers softly
12:15:35 <pebbles{BM}> Greetings Master
12:16:03 * pebbles{BM} smiles seeing Master Nodwik, whispers softly
12:16:11 <pebbles{BM}> Greetings Master
12:16:26 * pebbles{BM} smiles seeing canine, whispers softly
12:16:32 <pebbles{BM}> greetings canine
12:18:01 <MekkisScreen> hey BossMan
12:19:03 <BossMan> pebbles
12:19:12 <BossMan> don't worry about the strict protocol here
12:19:21 <BossMan> you're here to experience the gaming
12:19:28 <BossMan> you don't need to greet everybody when you come in
12:19:29 <BossMan> ok
12:19:39 <BossMan> just pay attention to what these guys have to say
12:19:39 <BossMan> ok
12:19:52 <pebbles{BM}> yes Master
12:20:13 <BossMan> you'll learn far more playing in their game..than you would watching mine
12:20:27 <pebbles{BM}> yes Master
12:20:35 <BossMan> guys she's got the PFS book..
12:20:44 <BossMan> and I just gave her the PF Core PDF
12:20:59 <BossMan> pebbles you -did- get the PFS book from the paizo site right?
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12:21:21 <canine> wow its turning into a party...
12:21:43 <shdowhunt60> Mhmm.
12:21:51 <BossMan> hello shadow
12:22:02 <BossMan> helping pebbles get situated in the game
12:22:10 <BossMan> got her the core book..she has the PFS book
12:22:24 <pebbles{BM}> yes Master girl did
12:22:30 <BossMan> good deal
12:22:35 <BossMan> well then you got the books you need..
12:22:46 <BossMan> all you have to do is follow these guys instructions
12:22:51 <BossMan> learn
12:22:57 <pebbles{BM}> yes Master
12:23:28 <canine> Except mine. My instructions are mostly wrong.
12:24:02 <BossMan> well if she pays attention to Ballig, Mekkis, and Avatar
12:24:05 <BossMan> she'll do fine :)
12:24:15 <pebbles{BM}> :)
12:25:00 <Avatar-> just grab a character sheet template from the getting started page
12:25:20 <Avatar-> and if you've got a rulebook, that's handy
12:25:36 <Avatar-> and get the pathfinder society guide
12:25:50 <Avatar-> and read the step by step on chapter 2
12:25:56 <BossMan> post her that updated newbie guide
12:26:03 <pebbles{BM}> yes Master
12:26:07 <Avatar-> brunius: -R
12:26:32 <Avatar-> http://dnd.ballig.net
12:26:45 <Avatar-> there's a link called getting started there
12:26:48 <BossMan> there you go pebbles
12:28:25 <pebbles{BM}> thank You Master
12:28:38 <Brunius> Done
12:33:09 <pebbles{BM}> well wishes All
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12:34:41 <MekkisScreen> mmm slip
12:49:49 <MekkisScreen> ow have you been bossman?
12:49:53 <MekkisScreen> how*
13:06:42 <BossMan> I've been ok
13:07:29 <BossMan> doing my own thing
13:08:30 <BossMan> getting pebbles involved in D&D
13:08:59 <BossMan> running my own game..running my room etc
13:10:18 <BossMan> I figure her playing with you guys is better than her just watching my game
13:10:27 <BossMan> I got my 4 players I want in and that's that
13:10:47 <BossMan> you?
13:32:21 <MekkisScreen> fair enough
13:32:27 <MekkisScreen> doing work stuff
13:32:40 <MekkisScreen> attending cons
13:33:06 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: I just posted your PC parts, btw
13:33:14 <BossMan> I use to attend Gen Cons back in the days but haven't been for a while
13:33:20 <BossMan> that's like a once in a while treat
13:33:33 <MekkisScreen> fair enough
13:34:56 <MekkisScreen> which republican candidate do you support?
13:35:08 <BossMan> none of them
13:37:32 <MekkisScreen> will you bother voting
13:37:50 <BossMan> I'll probably write in Donald Duck
14:02:08 <MekkisScreen> heh
14:03:04 <BossMan> people tell me "oh be a good Republican"
14:03:05 <BossMan> psh
14:03:09 <BossMan> I never was a republican
14:03:21 <BossMan> there was a time when you fuckers represented Conservatives
14:03:23 <MekkisScreen> fair enough
14:03:30 <BossMan> now you represent moderate bullshit
14:03:33 <MekkisScreen> now they represent themselves?
14:03:36 <BossMan> you threw us under the bus so fuck you
14:03:58 <BossMan> I hope they keep losing..until they finally pull their heads out of their asses
14:04:07 <MekkisScreen> hmm
14:12:47 <Avatar-> do any of you use 8.8.8.8 for your dns server
14:13:59 <Avatar-> apparently that routes to somewhere in the us now
14:30:16 <MekkisScreen> sometimes
14:30:26 <MekkisScreen> and how do you know that?
14:30:39 <MekkisScreen> 8.8.8.8 is anycast
14:41:49 <MekkisScreen> it's not just one server... there are several servers called 8.8.8.8
14:57:34 <Avatar-> do a traceroute on it
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15:17:00 <MekkisScreen> ok
15:18:42 <MekkisScreen> nl:~> /usr/sbin/traceroute 8.8.8.8
15:18:45 <MekkisScreen> traceroute to 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets using UDP 1
15:18:46 <MekkisScreen> 46.182.110.1 (46.182.110.1) 0.274 ms 0.270 ms 0.202 ms 2 r3.alp.nl.netrouting.net (178.239.63.9) 0.242 ms 0.
15:18:49 <MekkisScreen> 221 ms 0.21
15:18:52 <MekkisScreen> 2 ms
15:18:54 <MekkisScreen> 3 r1.ams1.nl.netrouting.net (178.239.63.2) 0.773 ms 0.668 ms
15:18:57 <MekkisScreen> 0.780 ms
15:18:59 <MekkisScreen> 4 * * core1.ams.net.google.com (195.69.144.247)
15:19:02 <MekkisScreen> 1.289 ms 5 20
15:19:04 <MekkisScreen> 9.85.248.93 (209.85.248.93) 1.583 ms 1.499 ms 209.85.248.88 (209.85.248.88) 1.712 ms 6 209.85.255.60 (209.85.255.60) 1.375
15:19:07 <MekkisScreen> ms 1.452 ms 1.372 ms 7 216
15:19:10 <MekkisScreen> .239.49.30 (216.2
15:19:12 <MekkisScreen> 39.49.30) 4.635 ms 216.239.49.38 (216.239.49.38) 5.201 ms 216.239.49.30 (216.239
15:19:15 <MekkisScreen> .49.30) 4.796 ms
15:19:17 <MekkisScreen> 8 209.85.255.130 (209.85.255.130) 5.536 ms * * 9 google-
15:19:20 <MekkisScreen> public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8) 5.140 ms 4.660 ms 5
15:19:22 <MekkisScreen> yuck
15:19:33 <MekkisScreen> importantly, it's 5ms from the netherlands
15:20:29 <MekkisScreen> it's also 19ms from Brisbane
15:20:50 <BossMan> so what's that all mean?
15:21:21 <MekkisScreen> that 8.8.8.8 is not the identifier of a single machine
15:21:44 <MekkisScreen> that it represents a different machine depending on where you are
15:21:51 <BossMan> that's cool
15:21:53 <MekkisScreen> aka anycasr
15:21:55 <BossMan> noticed google in that mess
15:22:10 <MekkisScreen> 8.8.8.8 is google's public DNS server
15:22:21 <BossMan> oh ok
15:22:33 <MekkisScreen> I imagine if ypou ping it, it'll be about 10ms from texas
15:25:30 <BossMan> 14 packets transmitted, 14 received, 0% packet loss, time 13014ms
15:25:30 <BossMan> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 41.130/43.275/44.513/1.053 ms
15:25:33 <BossMan> here you're the geek
15:25:36 <BossMan> you make this out for me :)
15:25:52 <BossMan> that was to 8.8.8.8
15:26:16 <MekkisScreen> 41ms
15:26:25 <MekkisScreen> still definately in continental US
15:27:04 <MekkisScreen> could be mexico, but I doubt it
15:37:21 <MekkisScreen> Avatar, so Shades of Ice II is the only thing that you can DM that I haven't played, right
15:37:41 <MekkisScreen> and we're a bit short on reasonably-levelled characters to play it, correct?
15:38:05 <MekkisScreen> so you'd rather I DMed something again...
15:38:22 <MekkisScreen> First Steps III is an option...\
15:38:39 <MekkisScreen> for me to either DM, or play through, hopefully not overmetagaming
15:48:31 <Avatar-> we're not short on reasonably levelled characters for it unless you're adamant on uptiering it
15:55:40 <MekkisScreen> if we get Kaleb (3), Bobbob(4) and Grolschmir(5), and some level 1 character, the APL is 3.25, so we'd still uptier
15:56:14 <MekkisScreen> hell, Grolshmir, Bobbob and Derau and a level 1 character result in an APL of 12
15:56:24 <MekkisScreen> divided by three
15:56:30 <MekkisScreen> *four
15:56:34 <MekkisScreen> APL of 3
15:56:41 <MekkisScreen> so you'd still run it at tier 3-4
15:57:02 <MekkisScreen> right?
15:58:59 <BossMan> maybe ya'll can help pebbles get into it somewhere next week?
16:03:03 <MekkisScreen> or this week, if she's still here...
16:03:08 <Avatar-> ofc
16:03:12 <MekkisScreen> she's british?
16:03:17 <BossMan> well yeah that's what I mean..next session
16:03:19 <BossMan> teah
16:03:31 <BossMan> she's got the PFS guide.. I got her the core rulebook
16:03:35 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
16:03:44 <BossMan> she's never played in a game ever
16:03:50 <BossMan> but she's a quick and good learner
16:03:50 <MekkisScreen> 9am games would be at 23:00 for her
16:04:30 <MekkisScreen> any idea what her sleeping schedule is like?
16:05:05 <BossMan> well it depends how she's feeling
16:05:17 <BossMan> she wouldn't be willing to be up totally totally late
16:05:24 <BossMan> about the lastest I've seen her up till is like 3am
16:05:39 <BossMan> I'm sure once a week or whatever..she could probably do it
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16:25:28 <Avatar-> :o)
16:32:39 <MekkisScreen> ...:
16:34:02 <BossMan> so no more Mavor or Sachiru
16:34:04 * BossMan tsks
16:45:51 Avatar- has quit (Quit: go get analysed)
16:45:56 <Avatar> sachiru is around
16:46:06 <Avatar> mavor left before you did
16:46:34 <BossMan> I've not run into either for quite a while
16:46:46 <Avatar> you haven't been here
16:50:56 <BossMan> I ran into Mavor about....
16:51:00 <BossMan> 3 months ago?
16:51:06 <BossMan> on like..DalNet or some shit
16:51:15 <BossMan> Sachiru I saw about that time on synirc
16:51:26 <Avatar> yeah he is in a few places
16:51:31 <Avatar> he is just in and out now
16:51:44 <Avatar> usually comes in, asks a question about munchkinning and idles for a while then leaves
16:51:44 <BossMan> Mavor was like "all I play is 4e"
16:51:47 <BossMan> I was like ew
17:00:42 <Avatar> I've got to find some way to download my plan
17:00:49 <Avatar> but I don't want to stop downloading things
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18:22:58 <Mekkis> download your plan?
18:29:43 <Avatar> downgrade my plan
18:29:46 <Avatar> oops
18:30:09 <Ballig> are you broke again
18:31:07 <Avatar> well I'm likely about to lose my job
18:31:14 <Avatar> so it's worth consideration
18:31:44 <Avatar> at a minimum I could just go on naked dsl once and for all
18:31:49 <Avatar> save $10/month that way
18:31:58 <Avatar> but I'm paying $99/month, surely I can reduce that
18:32:42 <Avatar> switching to internode would bring it to $79/month
18:38:04 <Mekkis> and get you ipv6!
18:38:38 <Avatar> I already have ipv6
18:38:47 <Mekkis> really
18:38:54 <Mekkis> http://de.ti4200.info
18:38:56 <Avatar> 2001:0:4137:9e76:872:11c5:836b:6882
18:38:57 <Mekkis> what do you see
18:39:10 <Avatar> chrome can't see that
18:39:16 <Ballig> you also need an ipv6 capable modem/router
18:39:23 <Avatar> oh, that I wouldn't have
18:39:27 <Avatar> my router is years old
18:39:32 <Mekkis> Ballig, he's got a teledo address
18:39:38 <Avatar> a what
18:39:46 <Ballig> means your ip is tunnelled I think
18:39:52 <Avatar> icic
18:40:47 <Mekkis> Teredo
18:40:49 <Mekkis> sorry
18:41:00 <Mekkis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teredo_tunneling
18:42:01 <Mekkis> the thing is, a teredo tunnel doesn't work a lot of the time
18:43:34 <Mekkis> Windows Vista and Windows 7 have built-in support for Teredo with an unspecified extension for symmetric NAT traversal. However, if there is only a link-local and teredo address present, these operating systems will not attempt to resolve ipv6 DNS AAAA records if a DNS A record is present, in which case IPv4 will be used. Therefore, typically only literal IPv6 URLs will use teredo
18:44:07 <Mekkis> Avatar, try http://[2a00:1018:801:1000:1:0:eaba:7ba]/
18:44:54 <Avatar> it works !
18:46:06 <Mekkis> yeah
18:46:11 <Mekkis> that's a teredo tunnel
18:47:13 <Mekkis> and you probably can't host on it
18:49:13 <Mekkis> http://[2a00:1018:801:1000:1:0:eaba:7ba]/ipv6test.png
18:49:27 <Mekkis> (that's the only thing hosted on that webserver
19:01:22 <Ballig> ha, there's my website
19:04:11 <Avatar> http://i.imgur.com/OPyDf.png
19:05:58 <Ballig> ha
19:06:35 <Avatar> when will they learn that people don't want to hear "I do appreciate your time, and have a great day!" for online customer service, and instead just want "k thx, bye"
19:10:22 <Ballig> they also want proper help
19:10:24 <Ballig> which origin don't give
19:13:16 <Avatar> yeah but that part isn't very funny
19:13:42 <Avatar> I bet you'd find it funny if it happened to me when I bought it with a discount cd key
19:15:26 <Mekkis> what game is that?
19:18:03 <Ballig> I would have laughed and laughed
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19:36:55 <Ballig> broonyus
19:37:58 <Brunius> Ballig
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20:05:03 <Avatar> Mekkis: battlefield 3
20:05:40 <Avatar> it's EA's answer to start up origin like the orange box was valve's answer to start up steam
20:11:44 <Ballig> Avatar: PM
20:45:02 <Mekkis> ah
20:45:28 <Avatar> it's kind of working except I don't think they are really releasing any other games
20:45:32 <Avatar> I mean it worked for bf3
20:45:41 <Avatar> but the implementation wasn't very good at all
20:45:55 <Avatar> when you click play to start up bf3, it opens up a thing in your browser
20:45:59 <Mekkis> yuck
20:46:06 <Avatar> which is effectively the game's main menu
20:46:15 <Avatar> the game actually has a main menu too
20:46:23 <Avatar> for options and things
20:46:36 <Avatar> but the browser's "battlelog" is for choosing servers and keeping tabs on friends and what not
20:46:45 <Avatar> you form parties through it too
20:46:53 <Avatar> which you use for voice comms
20:47:04 <Avatar> there's no voice comms in the game aside from that
20:47:17 <Avatar> I haven't actually used voice comms yet because nobody plays bf3 while I do
20:47:41 <Ballig> to be fair, steam does similar
20:47:46 <Ballig> but it has an in-built browser
20:48:50 <Avatar> steam does it much much better
20:49:48 <Avatar> origin insists on showing you the friends list and the games library at the same time
20:49:50 <Avatar> one window
20:50:31 <Mekkis> so you're saying that disabling all but one CPU kills performance>
20:51:18 <Avatar> what
20:51:26 <Avatar> that is not my conversation window
20:51:35 <Avatar> that's some dood talking to an origin dood
20:51:36 <Mekkis> oh
20:51:36 <Mekkis> ok
20:51:43 <Avatar> that's origin's customer service
20:52:05 <Mekkis> I thought it was you talking to him
20:52:15 <Avatar> do I sound like that
20:52:21 <Avatar> don't answer that :o)
20:53:32 <Mekkis> there are only four ways to talk to customer service
20:53:37 <Mekkis> online like that
20:53:59 <Avatar> what are the other 3
20:54:28 <Mekkis> trying to appear more knowledgable than they are, by using overtechnical terms
20:54:55 <Mekkis> (occasionally works, but only if you really are more knowledgeable than them)
20:55:10 <Avatar> that isn't the first conversation of its kind that I've seen
20:55:11 <Mekkis> acting like a completely clueless idiot
20:55:57 <Mekkis> and seeing how high up the chain you can get, with "can I speak with your supervisor"
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21:44:04 <Mekkis> http://web.archive.org/web/20080118041638/http://www.futrelle.com/stories/TheProblemOfCell13.html
21:59:27 <Mekkis> Ballig, would you be confident to uptier Shades of Ice II with Grolshmir, Bobbob and two characters of level 2 or 1?
22:19:52 <Mekkis> hmmm
22:19:57 <Mekkis> X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*
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