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01:49:29 <rust_collector> zzzzz
03:21:06 <Ysjoelfir> yes!
03:36:51 <electrohead> no!
03:36:53 <electrohead> lol
03:36:57 <electrohead> g'morning/afternoon
03:45:14 <rust_collector> zzzzz
03:47:13 <rust_collector> oh well, it looks like I just sold my old plymouth, for too little, but meh, at least it can get out and drive around again
03:50:06 <electrohead> what year was your plymouth?
03:50:35 <rust_collector> 67
03:52:00 <rust_collector> valiant 4 door
03:52:08 <rust_collector> "signet 200"
03:57:33 <electrohead> oh cool
03:57:39 <electrohead> an old beast, for sure
03:57:41 <electrohead> :p
03:57:53 <rust_collector> it is getting pretty old...
04:04:30 <rust_collector> it is pretty interesting how little difference there is between that, and an 85
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04:46:17 <Ysjoelfir> So, I returned from the lab. I made lots of sawdust and shavings and I am happy now.
04:46:40 <rust_collector> nice and itchy. good good
04:47:50 <rust_collector> are you working on the bench project?
04:48:29 <Ysjoelfir> yes
04:48:40 <electrohead> progress pictures?
04:48:42 <Ysjoelfir> I am done with the legs, glue is hardening now.
04:48:52 <electrohead> and, hey Ysjoelfir
04:48:53 <electrohead> :P
04:49:23 <rust_collector> glue? you are being all fancy
04:49:26 <Ysjoelfir> not much to see yet but two rough leg things.
04:49:35 <Ysjoelfir> but if you want I can take a pic xD
04:51:13 <electrohead> ahh, ok, thought there was more than just that :P
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05:02:31 <Ysjoelfir_> jep. but if you want to see: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qqhV93gOKIVjdejIbzN_DxryUhJKd6LK/view?usp=sharing
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05:05:09 <Ysjoelfir> all done with hand tools
05:05:31 <Ysjoelfir> even the planing. I got raw sawn stock so that i can cheap out, erm, train my plaining skills
05:08:40 <rust_collector> I think I will look for a new old plane.
05:09:33 <rust_collector> mine are... cheaply made. they do work ok, but it is annoying to set properly
05:10:24 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, I wonder if I might take an old leather belt, and glue it to a wheel...
05:10:55 <rust_collector> mostly because my belt broke
05:11:07 <Ysjoelfir> for a rapid stropping device?
05:11:18 <rust_collector> yes, pretty much
05:11:29 <Ysjoelfir> and which kind of plane do you fancy? european style wood plane, or the american style cast ones?
05:12:10 <rust_collector> eeh, I wonder if I will go for the regular metal one.
05:12:50 <rust_collector> probably
05:13:04 <Ysjoelfir> I have to say that I tried both, have wooden ones and a fancy new metal one. I actually like the wooden ones more. they feel more... natural in my hands
05:13:09 <Ysjoelfir> but I think thats just preference
05:13:39 <rust_collector> yes. both work just fine. I just think I am a pretty metal sort of guy
05:14:04 <rust_collector> if I want something longer, I would perhaps go for a wooden one
05:14:08 <Ysjoelfir> thats true though
05:15:49 <rust_collector> i would probably make my own wooden one, If find that I need one. but I do want a good little smoothing plane first, that is not too annoying to set
05:16:30 <rust_collector> i guess I would use my old ones for the rough work, and getting things close
05:18:46 <Ysjoelfir> I look for a larger wooden one for the bench, but I assume I can also just use the small ones I have to smooth the top.
05:19:01 <hsn> Just dont oil it
05:19:04 <hsn> Like i did
05:19:52 <hsn> Because it smelled ...
05:19:57 <rust_collector> sure, but it is much harder to make a large surface flat with a little plane. you will need it in the end, but a long plane will be nicer to get it near flat
05:20:46 <rust_collector> hsn, did you hide prawns in hard to reach places yet?
05:20:49 <hsn> And im just filled
05:20:52 <T3sl4> hsn: thishsndoesnotexist.com?
05:21:11 <hsn> It was this cat
05:21:17 <hsn> Prawns ?
05:21:23 <hsn> Shrimp?
05:21:31 <hsn> No rust_collector never
05:21:31 <rust_collector> yez
05:21:50 <rust_collector> oil smell will no longer be an issue
05:22:03 <hsn> T3sl4: thiscatdoesntexist.com
05:22:26 <T3sl4> no, i mean why doesnt that exist
05:22:31 <hsn> https://thesecatsdonotexist.com/
05:22:40 <hsn> Because of AI ?
05:23:31 <rust_collector> hsn, give it a coat of varnish or something, to seal it up.
05:23:51 * T3sl4 paints rust_collector with oil-based paint
05:24:10 <rust_collector> good, because I do not like water based paint indoors
05:24:12 <hsn> rust_collector: what did i put?
05:24:48 <hsn> I threw the can
05:24:50 <rust_collector> you used oil.
05:24:55 <hsn> So idk what it was
05:25:08 <rust_collector> the ikea site says what it was
05:25:12 <hsn> Well .. it doesnt protect?
05:26:51 <rust_collector> it does protect, to some degree. but if it is too smelly for you, maybe you should coat it with an actual coating?
05:28:05 <hsn> Maybe
05:28:33 <hsn> I can live with it .. my wife cant xD
05:28:44 <rust_collector> the oil mostly soaks into the wood, so water and crap has no place to also soak in. things like polyurethane is ie liquid plastic, so it will seal things in a different way
05:29:15 <hsn> So its better than thin protecting layer coat
05:29:25 <rust_collector> well, the question becomes, can you survive a wife that can not live with a table?
05:29:26 <hsn> If its bench .. it will be scratched
05:29:32 <rust_collector> sure
05:29:47 <hsn> rust_collector: well im going to work ... Most of the time
05:29:57 <rust_collector> I still think it is weird that it is still smelling that much.
05:30:24 <rust_collector> put it up on the roof for a week, and see if the sun and wind helps?
05:30:36 <hsn> Im going to light smelling candle on it
05:30:59 <hsn> Wait
05:31:07 <rust_collector> yes, put it on fire, that helps
05:31:19 <hsn> Do u think this table can come out of the room without opening
05:31:36 <rust_collector> I don't know?
05:31:40 <hsn> I think its too big for the door
05:32:04 <rust_collector> depends on what you have on each side of the door, I guess?
05:32:33 <rust_collector> but, yep, have fun with mrs grumpy tablehater
05:32:59 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/94iJDK3cTNHDu3eH8
05:33:28 <hsn> Thanks
05:38:46 <rust_collector> I wonder if i should go collect old crappy furniture, and knock it apart, for the wood. Some of the wifes old chairs is made from something that makes great hammer handles
05:44:15 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-3dtKnV5PU
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06:51:47 <rust_collector> https://youtu.be/fEoonCLTCbE?t=1924
07:10:48 <Ysjoelfir> that looks easy
07:12:37 <rust_collector> yes, it probably is
07:22:46 <rust_collector> so, I think I might buy a plasma cutter and a bottle of mix gas. and probably a kebab
07:24:01 <Kuschelpony> i know a few bad kebabs, but for all of them a good knive was enough to cut them
07:24:48 <rust_collector> yes, in the summer, that would work well.
07:25:36 <hsn> Plasma kabab
07:26:32 <rust_collector> allah kesam! plasma kabab! and POOF we have chicken llama
07:27:00 <hsn> Kesam?
07:27:17 <hsn> U should try iraqi kabab ..
07:27:28 <rust_collector> maybe
07:27:59 <hsn> https://youtu.be/U01O1JNA0XY
07:31:47 <rust_collector> hmmm, sumac, wth was that again....
07:33:09 <hsn> https://youtu.be/NdTalMWrQ7c
07:33:25 <hsn> rust_collector: idk sort of lemoni flavoured
07:33:44 <hsn> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumac
07:34:17 <rust_collector> yes, I looked it up, and there does not seem to be a different word for it
07:34:19 <hsn> https://images.app.goo.gl/iS8cmt1CXNDZ6ZJL9
07:36:09 <rust_collector> https://www.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=209723122
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07:36:59 <hsn> Yes good
07:41:19 <hsn> Gn
07:47:46 <rust_collector> is I going to bed?
07:50:12 <Ysjoelfir> yes, I is
07:50:31 <rust_collector> butt...
07:50:36 <Ysjoelfir> I has to cut more wood tomorrow and pack the car for a trip to "se family" for his birthday
07:50:46 <rust_collector> ok, but, ok
07:51:02 <Ysjoelfir> :P
07:51:04 <rust_collector> I have to do things too. not that that matters
07:51:10 <Ysjoelfir> good night all^^
07:51:23 <Ysjoelfir> your things do very much matter to us, rusty :)
07:51:46 <rust_collector> night. and it should not matter, so they never really get done, lol
07:52:00 <Ysjoelfir> lol
09:25:03 <MrMobodies> Hello
09:25:23 <MrMobodies> I just noticed nearly all the feedback has been removed from wikipedia discussion
09:25:25 <MrMobodies> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements
09:26:24 <MrMobodies> it was there until the 2nd of March
09:26:26 <MrMobodies> https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements&oldid=4437870
09:26:33 <MrMobodies> I wonder what is going on
09:26:52 <MrMobodies> did they give up or don't care anymore listening anymore
09:29:07 <rust_collector> yes
09:29:22 <rust_collector> "morning" anyway
09:29:28 <MrMobodies> morning
09:29:58 <MrMobodies> they don't look like they did anything and if they give up then I think they are doing themselves a massive favour for themselves
09:30:02 <MrMobodies> and people like me
09:30:40 <rust_collector> I don't know what they are talking about, so I won't say anything
09:30:42 <MrMobodies> it looks perfect as it is, I do notice little things added on which is seems great
09:30:55 <MrMobodies> they are trying to redesign wikipedia
09:30:58 <MrMobodies> to be a modern website
09:31:13 <MrMobodies> oops "modern" what it means to them
09:31:20 <rust_collector> okay... I use wikiwand, am pretty happy with that
09:32:17 <MrMobodies> my fear were the usual stuff, you the things I despire, excessive loading spinners/dimming overlays of things that get in the way and that.
09:32:46 <MrMobodies> I think they are correct to concentrate their efforts into other things
09:33:40 <rust_collector> is wikipedia that bad now?
09:35:22 <MrMobodies> not at the moment
09:35:33 <MrMobodies> it uses the skin from the beginning with some modern templates
09:35:38 <MrMobodies> if the user chooses
09:35:54 <MrMobodies> I think it should be that way let the user choose what style the want
09:35:56 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/fYNa8ib.jpg
09:36:01 <MrMobodies> that is really good
09:36:04 <MrMobodies> Wikiwant
09:36:14 <MrMobodies> modern style web design that does not dim the page
09:36:35 <MrMobodies> and with a fixed element widget, that blends in at the top and doesn't get in the way
09:36:50 <MrMobodies> they used the fixed elements wisely on there
09:37:25 <MrMobodies> on their other page they do a fixed nav toolbar but collapse on scroll down which I prefer too
09:38:10 <MrMobodies> actually that is better, it does show it I move up a bit only if I scroll up fast, so that is what I call consideration for user preference.
09:38:32 <MrMobodies> https://www.wikiwand.com/news
09:38:58 <MrMobodies> a fixed toolbar that seems considerate to auto hide
09:43:18 <rust_collector> i am annoyed by how expensive scrap steel has become up here. people are selling rusty i beams for the same as I can buy a new one
09:47:47 <MrMobodies> I see that happen sometimes on ebay
09:48:04 <MrMobodies> when sellers over price something that other sellers sell cheaply or even the shops
09:48:11 <MrMobodies> brand new stuff I mean
09:51:30 <MrMobodies> my mum made me this pizza today
09:52:13 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/5O16dXB.jpg
09:52:20 <MrMobodies> low in fat and sugar
09:52:30 <MrMobodies> I like eat those cold
09:52:56 <MrMobodies> I find they taste nicer and the tomato juice don't run
09:54:11 <rust_collector> that looks nice
09:55:29 <MrMobodies> very filling too
09:55:35 <MrMobodies> I had half early and the other an hour ago
09:55:48 <MrMobodies> when it is cold it doesn't flop
09:56:23 <MrMobodies> if I had one of those in groggy Gregs I would have felt bloated, tired and sick for a while.
10:04:44 <rust_collector> I am thinking that should get a tiny forklift, so I can stack all my crap on pallets, and stick those on shelves
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10:26:56 <rust_collector> yes, halcyon is like that
10:27:05 <Halcyon> Heheh yep
10:27:06 <rust_collector> get used to it
10:27:06 <Halcyon> :P
10:27:39 <rust_collector> how is tomorrow? s it worth going to bed for?
10:27:51 <Halcyon> It's my day off, so yes
10:27:59 <rust_collector> oh good
10:28:23 <rust_collector> so you will be very productive, and get all the little things done?
10:28:58 <Halcyon> Suuure :P
10:33:43 * steve30 pounces onto Halcyon
10:33:51 <Halcyon> Heya Steve :)
10:37:00 <electrohead> o/
10:37:04 <electrohead> just got home, yay
10:37:09 <electrohead> now, food and beer time :D
10:37:21 <steve30> I just had curry
10:38:53 * steve30 ponders going back to bed for a bit
10:39:53 <rust_collector> I want to find a very very wide duvet, and roll it up with a steve in the middle
10:41:11 <steve30> yay duvet :)
10:48:27 <rust_collector> I think I want to paint all my things green
10:48:41 <rust_collector> i am getting tired of blue
10:52:44 <electrohead> rust_collector: just paint everything black?
10:53:06 <rust_collector> mmmh, no
10:56:42 <electrohead> ah damn
10:57:17 <rust_collector> I just wanted my things to be not blue
10:58:42 <steve30> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-56312817
10:59:08 <rust_collector> oh, is t something to do with football?
10:59:51 <rust_collector> I heard about manchester village and england somethingsomething football
11:01:50 <steve30> No, someone protesting to get a pay rise got fined £10000 because coronavirus
11:15:33 <rust_collector> that is sort of interesting in a way
11:33:26 * Halcyon coffees Steve
11:34:43 <steve30> :P
11:36:06 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
11:36:41 <T3sl4> rust_collector -- i think you can find carpet merchants that offer such a service
11:37:25 <rust_collector> they do duvet rolling as well?
11:37:49 <T3sl4> it might be a little cruder than a duvet, admittedly
11:42:10 <rust_collector> carpet merchant near sheffield
11:42:16 <rust_collector> oh wrong window
11:42:39 <rust_collector> hitman wanted UK
11:42:47 <rust_collector> arrrgh, n
11:43:30 <rust_collector> eh, forget it. I will just roll up a steve in my mind
11:43:55 * steve30 coils up around T3sl4
11:44:25 * T3sl4 demonstrates Faraday's law to steve30
11:44:34 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4 :)
11:44:56 <T3sl4> heh, speaking of roll ups, i don't think i've ever heard steve30's opinion on marijuana
11:45:51 <steve30> I don't really have an opinion on it. I've never tried it so can't comment.
11:46:01 <rust_collector> hmm, no, I do not think he has said anythng about that, as far as I have seen
11:47:43 <T3sl4> would you say you concur, rust_collector?
11:48:36 <rust_collector> to steve not having tried that... well, i have no reason to doubt that
11:48:47 <rust_collector> the british are a bit like him
11:49:17 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5j1wWY-qus
11:50:10 <T3sl4> the british have tried a great many things, but not all things all the time
11:50:42 <T3sl4> colonization, yes; marijuanaing, not as much
11:51:20 <rust_collector> oh, i think it is pretty common there.
11:51:43 <rust_collector> but with them being like they are, it is hard to notice
11:52:22 <T3sl4> stiff upper lip, for retaining doobies no doubt
12:36:14 <DHess_US> https://www.npr.org/2021/03/07/974534021/remembering-allan-mcdonald-he-refused-to-approve-challenger-launch-exposed-cover
12:37:55 <T3sl4> rip
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17:31:18 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/cooking/chicken-katsudon-(japanese-crumbed-chicken-and-egg-rice-bowl)/
17:31:20 <Halcyon> New photos
17:58:36 * T3sl4 licks Halcyon twice
17:58:40 <Halcyon> :)
17:59:12 * steve30 renders video
17:59:36 <steve30> Halcyon will like this one
17:59:43 <Halcyon> Oh yeh?
17:59:54 <steve30> It has that cute guy from a few weeks ago in it
18:00:09 <Halcyon> Oh you met up with him again?
18:00:19 <steve30> No, this is the video from the other week
18:00:23 <Halcyon> Oh right
18:01:18 <steve30> Goodness, its currently scheduled to take 50 minutes to render
18:01:37 <Halcyon> Gees
18:01:39 <steve30> Good job I'm going to the shops shortly
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18:02:44 <steve30> The source footage is all h264, and half of it is having to be cropped and scaled due to the use of different camcorders.
18:07:19 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
18:07:27 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
18:07:40 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, your leek thingies are not thin enough on that final pic ;P
18:07:48 <Halcyon> Spring onions?
18:07:51 <Ysjoelfir> yes
18:07:55 <Ysjoelfir> small leek
18:07:56 <Halcyon> I cut them diagonally
18:08:09 <Halcyon> Some of them stuck together
18:08:20 <Ysjoelfir> you need to get a sharper knife than! XD
18:08:25 <Halcyon> I do
18:08:30 <Halcyon> My knives need sharpening
18:09:14 <Ysjoelfir> However, it looks nice :) I think I wasn't that far off with my attempt, but had indeed to much liquid on the egg then
18:10:34 <Halcyon> Just turn it down a bit
18:10:44 <Halcyon> But yeh it was pretty close
18:10:46 <Halcyon> Still nummy
18:10:52 <Ysjoelfir> I had it on 3 (out of 9)
18:11:04 <Ysjoelfir> usually I cook egg on 5 or 6
18:11:31 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, it was still great :D I just "scraped" off the raw egg from the top, was delicious
18:14:21 <Halcyon> What did you think of the pepper?
18:14:55 <Ysjoelfir> the tortoise thing? Was pretty nice and indeed mandatory for the dish as it has a very distinct, special flavour
18:15:11 <Halcyon> You need to pick a recipe for me to try this week :P
18:16:03 <Ysjoelfir> since I will be at my mums tomorrow and will be only preparing one single dish this week (since we will eat from the takeout today) this should be an easy choice xD
18:17:06 <Halcyon> Hehe
18:17:52 <Ysjoelfir> My granny wished for me to make my rostbeef (which I showed several times here as well).
18:18:15 <Halcyon> Yummy
18:30:45 <Halcyon> I made salmon with garlic and lemon butter
18:31:49 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds nice
18:55:20 <K> hello noodles
18:56:42 <Ysjoelfir> hello worm
20:18:50 <T3sl4> what, you egg?
20:19:28 <K> warm.
20:19:32 <K> i want me some warm
20:19:51 <K> the fucking winter is back here, will be at least for a week
20:20:01 <K> fuck it with a cactus
20:20:07 <K> fucker.
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20:21:42 <Petr> Hi from czech republic !
20:22:01 <K> is it warm there?
20:24:33 <Petr> I’d like to ask you, if you during your oscilloscope test evaluate the effective number of DAC sampling. I was shock during test of RIGOL osc. how bad seems the curve. Seems to have 5-digits AD converter. Do you schedule something like the comparison ?
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20:25:00 <Ysjoelfir> ok, bye
20:46:03 <steve30> I'm back from the shops
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21:08:22 <Ysjoelfir> woah! double the steve!
21:10:07 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
21:10:25 <Ysjoelfir> aww, only half the steve left
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22:02:43 <hsn> Hi petr
22:02:53 <hsn> Yes
22:03:59 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: happy women day
22:04:16 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like a terrible day
22:07:15 * steve30 cooks sausages
22:23:16 * Ysjoelfir is cleaning the flat
23:32:42 <rust_collector> mornings
23:35:32 <electrohead> mournings
23:37:08 <steve30> hi
23:47:11 * electrohead waves
23:47:29 <Ysjoelfir> his
23:48:25 <rust_collector> heh. I get called a lot from england these days
23:48:41 <Ysjoelfir> why?
23:48:56 <rust_collector> dunno? I don't answer
23:52:23 * steve30 meows innocently
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