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00:00:25 <Mekkis> The proper response to a chemical weapon attack is not “Tell my chain of command what I really think about them, and then poke holes in their masks.”
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00:39:26 <steven> its cool... im drinking scotch now. everything is right with the world.
00:39:39 <steven> You should drink some scotch mekkis.
00:42:13 <Mekkis> it's midday
00:43:38 <steven> you say that like that is a deterrent
02:41:02 <Steven1> !roll 30d6
02:41:09 <Steven1> !throw 30d6
02:41:09 <diebot> Steven1, 30d6: [30d6=3,5,2,5,4,2,3,1,6,4,5,1,1,2,3,2,6,4,2,4,4,3,1,3,3,2,1,1,6,2] 91
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02:58:33 <s_gmusic> that's a spicy meatball there, Steven1. what were you casting?
02:59:47 <Steven1> fireballs
03:01:52 <Steven1> yo
03:05:27 <Steven1> what do you mean a Jäger? what beastiary?
03:37:45 <Mekkis> my character
03:38:11 <Mekkis> Jäger, the sorcerer
04:06:03 <Steven1> probably sit down and talk about arcane theory.... unless you have an int under 20... then i ignore you because you're not worth my time.
05:39:38 <Avatar> steven we played a game that time, what was it, the one mort GM'd
05:39:51 <Avatar> I thought you were OP but you used your character pretty damn impressively considering
05:39:57 <steven> fuck if i remember.
05:40:02 <Avatar> mate I remember
05:40:18 <steven> let me go look it up.
05:40:29 <Avatar> I don't mind a character being OP if it's balancing out the party
05:41:27 <steven> Master of the fallen fortress or heresy of man p3
05:44:19 <Steven1> suppose i could just buy 90k worth of scrolls...
05:44:46 <Avatar> heresy 3
05:44:54 <steven> why did i do?
05:44:55 <Avatar> I haven't played MotFF
05:45:07 <Avatar> I think you brought your life oracle
05:45:18 <steven> oh yeah... the dumb channeler
05:50:22 <steven> why ya wanna know
05:51:36 <Avatar> I'm just saying, relating to walter's comment
05:51:47 <Avatar> if 3 people are down, damn!
05:52:12 <steven> yeah... i was pulling punches all game.
05:52:38 <steven> only cast 3 suffocations the entire game.
05:55:29 <steven> end of fight she was blinded, deafened, cursed 4 times and then suffocated.
05:57:06 <steven> AFTER i suffocated the womans Familiar.
05:57:11 <steven> just to be a dick
06:13:39 <Avatar> mekkis are you about
06:13:48 <Avatar> I need your advice on an item
06:14:23 <Avatar> steven's not here
06:14:40 <Avatar> jerome maybe you can help
06:19:51 <Avatar> that'll teach him for not answering my questions
06:39:16 <Mekkis> I think I should drink xome scotch
06:45:50 <Avatar> steven
06:45:58 <Steven1> what up dawg
06:46:01 <Avatar> if I wore a squirrel suit as a masterwork tool for fly
06:46:11 <Avatar> and then after combat I kept wearing it
06:46:13 <Steven1> you'd look like an idiot
06:46:20 <Avatar> and had to get into a conversation with someone
06:46:27 <Avatar> what would happen
06:46:39 <Steven1> I'd give you a penalty
06:46:51 <Avatar> exactly what I thought
06:47:00 <Steven1> on whatever check you were making to influence the person
06:47:02 <Avatar> a bunch of jokers on facebook say it's not RAW, so no penalty applies
06:47:14 <Steven1> unless you were trying to convince them you're insane
06:47:16 <Avatar> you've just restored my faith in humanity thank you
06:47:18 <Steven1> then you'd get a bonus
06:47:25 <Avatar> thank you
06:47:47 <Steven1> so... played council of thieves tonight
06:48:01 <Steven1> I was the only person to walk away from the fight.
06:48:10 <steven> do it
06:48:16 <Avatar> tough AP aye
06:48:38 <Steven1> Its SUPER swingy
06:48:53 <Steven1> 4 level 4 rogues...
06:49:38 <Avatar> lots of flanks
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06:51:08 <Steven1> at level 10
06:51:11 <Steven1> sorry phone rang
06:51:20 <Steven1> so at level 10 we fight 4 level 4 rogues
06:51:28 <Steven1> then 2 level 4 rogues
06:51:54 <Steven1> then 4 Dark Creepers
06:52:09 <Steven1> then a level 8 vampire sorc with 8 shadows.
06:52:33 <Steven1> then some more thieves and dark creepers.
06:52:42 <Steven1> then a level 12 wizard
06:52:44 <Avatar> hahaha
06:52:49 <Avatar> 8 vampires with 8 shadows
06:52:58 <Avatar> that is a flee encounter
06:52:59 <Avatar> instaflee
06:53:14 <Steven1> one level 8 sorc that is a vampire
06:53:19 <Steven1> and 8 shadows.
06:54:36 <Steven1> because hey thats is totally a cr appropriate encounter
06:56:00 <Steven1> there are 5 of us.... vamp sorc is cr 9, eight shadows is a CR9 encounter.
06:56:34 <Steven1> except that shadows arent really CR3.
06:59:15 <Avatar> shadows are a joke
06:59:26 <Avatar> if you want to kill the players, put shadows in your game
06:59:45 <Avatar> maybe you should work out how to summon a shadow for your game with that guy
07:00:25 <Steven1> I nearly took an ability for my character that would have let me summon 1d3 shadows with summon nature's ally
07:00:47 <Avatar> do that
07:01:21 <Avatar> figure out a way to drop your wisdom and get confused
07:01:22 <Steven1> nah... i dont really wanna be a douche... the AP itself already seems to be doing that all by itself.
07:01:32 <Avatar> is he in this group
07:02:18 <Steven1> oh the guy im going to kill next session... no that is another game.
07:02:49 <Steven1> what TPK'd us was a Calikang
07:03:05 <Steven1> which if you dont know what those are... they are awesome.
07:03:28 <Steven1> its a large sized creature that has 8 attacks a round
07:03:45 <Avatar> sounds like the opposite of awesome
07:03:57 <Steven1> well my character didnt die.
07:04:31 <Steven1> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/monstrous-humanoids/calikang
07:05:32 <Steven1> our party is a barbarian, ninja, paladin, Rogue/magus/arcane trickster, bard(he rarely shows up due to work getting in the way), and my Urbane Druid.
07:05:53 <Steven1> urban*
07:06:18 <Steven1> we died because the paladin rolled 7 attacks and roll 5 natural 1s lol
07:08:40 <Steven1> well... i say we... but really it was they
07:09:47 <Steven1> my character just was like... well sucks to be you guys... /wildshape and goodbye
07:20:49 <Mekkis> I want to play a weredingo
07:27:15 <Avatar> you already are a weredingo ! har har har
07:45:30 <Avatar> 5 nat 1's
07:45:34 <Avatar> on one full attack
07:45:38 <Avatar> that is worse luck than my gunslinger
07:45:50 <Avatar> but, uh, only just
07:50:10 <Steven1> not in one turn, over the course of 4 turns.
07:54:16 <Brunius> Mekkis: I'm thinking I should figure out how to use qt. Any input?
07:57:16 <Brunius> that's deep man
08:00:43 <Steven1> alrighty... im goin to sleep now... im actually pretty fatigued.
08:36:28 <Avatar> just thought it might provide some insight
09:25:11 <Mekkis> Steven1, well, his int is <20. But his charisma makes up for it. More to the point, he sometimes has a dislike of wizards.
09:34:34 <Avatar`> less than 20 lol
09:34:37 <Avatar`> that's so low
09:42:27 <Mekkis> Brunius, will you let me play a weredingo in your game?
09:42:37 <Brunius> No
09:42:47 <Mekkis> why not?
09:44:53 <Avatar> Brunius, here's some input to help you get started
09:44:56 <Avatar> wherever you go, there you are
10:00:42 <Mekkis> I assume that Ballig is around now
10:02:26 <Steven1> yeah bro
10:23:11 <Mekkis> I still think, one on one, Jäger would beat Steven's character
10:23:37 <Mekkis> Brunius, well... write an IRC client
10:25:24 <Steven1> Yup, you win. Ahtuz has no interest in fighting you.
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11:19:27 <Brunius> Because I'm a killjoy
11:57:49 <steven> at least he is hnest
12:03:09 <steven> leveled up my character i played yesterday. Now level 18. 288 Skill points.
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12:37:41 <Steven1> After a few moments of conversation I'd probably just leave.
13:18:08 <Steven1> alright, gotta prep to game
13:18:56 <Steven1> got me some high level play on saturday.
14:08:08 <Steven1> 76 spells per day.
14:50:50 <s_gmusic> https://i.imgur.com/qCR6a9C.jpg
15:10:05 <Steven1> meh
15:25:42 <s_gmusic> more convoluted than the Villager Railgun, so it has my support.
16:02:18 <Steven1> i just cast suffocation
16:02:37 <Steven1> Persistant suffocation dc32
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18:01:46 <Avatar> just in case I twig any powergamer ideas, I was joking about less than 20 being so low
18:18:36 <Brunius> that's deep man
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18:57:47 <Avatar> just thought it might provide some insight
19:17:46 <Mekkis> how do you deal with Jäger?
19:18:09 <Avatar> mekkis what did you think of the squirrel suit dilemma
19:18:25 <Mekkis> ummm? what?
19:18:34 <Avatar> if I bought a masterwork tool for fly
19:18:37 <Avatar> it's a squirrel suit
19:18:45 <Avatar> and I keep it on after combat, and later get into a conversation with someone
19:18:48 <Avatar> what would happen
19:20:14 <Avatar> are you still there
19:20:27 <Avatar> are you looking up the rules or what
19:20:54 <Avatar> hopefully a 4-star GM doesn't have to think too hard about this one
19:20:56 <Mekkis> ummm
19:21:08 <Mekkis> I've always used the term 'wingsuit'
19:21:18 <Mekkis> rather than squirrel suit. Was looking up he terminology
19:21:19 <Avatar> sure it's a wingsuit
19:21:29 <Avatar> you get into conversation with an npc later
19:21:35 <Avatar> what happens next
19:21:54 <Mekkis> well...
19:22:08 <Mekkis> if it's a typical fantasy setting...
19:22:17 <Avatar> golarion
19:22:19 <Mekkis> chances are the wingsuit doesn't work as advertised
19:22:30 <Avatar> it's a masterwork tool
19:22:32 <Avatar> it has to work
19:22:35 <Avatar> for flying
19:22:42 <Mekkis> no it doesn't
19:22:52 <Avatar> for hovering
19:22:54 <Avatar> specifically
19:23:26 <Avatar> let's assume for argument's sake that it does work
19:23:44 <Avatar> but after combat it's left on and you need to persuade an NPC to help you with something
19:23:49 <Avatar> what happens
19:23:56 <Mekkis> depends on the NPC
19:24:02 <Avatar> generic NPC #1
19:24:21 <Mekkis> if the NPC is some kind of gnomish alchemist, they might be somewhat excited that someone's crazy enough to try it
19:24:54 <Avatar> the npc is just some guy with information
19:25:13 <Mekkis> if the NPC is a scared Ustalavian farmer, then they'd possibly be more wary, due to the resemblance of a bat.
19:25:26 <Mekkis> There is no such thing as "generic NPC #1"
19:25:40 <Mekkis> if you're introducing such a character, you're not a Good GM.
19:25:41 <Avatar> a peasant
19:25:48 <Avatar> or a merchant
19:25:50 <Avatar> or a guard
19:25:59 <Avatar> common NPCs
19:26:09 <Mekkis> what country?
19:26:10 <Avatar> not specialised gnomish alchemists
19:26:31 <Avatar> I am beginning to think this was a mistake
19:42:29 <Mekkis> a peasant might thing you were more crazy than the 'typical adventurer'
19:42:52 <Mekkis> a merchant might try and sell you space to take it off.
19:43:01 <Mekkis> a guard might enforce a dress code
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20:18:57 <Avatar> does it affect diplomacy
20:23:46 <Steven1> yeah bro
20:32:16 <Mekkis> possibly
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20:40:58 <mib_p3lxd1> Hello people
20:41:16 <mib_p3lxd1> I'm trying to find people to play dnd online but I can't find how or where
20:43:44 <Avatar> mate everything is possibly with you
20:44:31 <Mekkis> I still think, one on one, Jäger would beat Steven's character
20:44:57 <Mekkis> Brunius, well... write an IRC client
20:46:44 <Steven1> Yup, you win. Ahtuz has no interest in fighting you.
21:16:41 <Mekkis> that's how a good RPG should be :)
21:22:31 <Avatar> I am trying to get a straight answer for a general situation
21:39:02 <Mekkis> Avatar, my straight answer would be: it would likely be akin to wearing any other unfamiliar clothing, which would most likely affect the NPC's reaction
21:41:22 <Mekkis> also: wingsuits weren't effective until the 1980s and weren't in general production until 1999.
21:54:36 <Avatar> and I don't know how or why
22:55:34 <steven> yo
22:56:48 <steven> man... sometimes i really dislike walter as a gm...
22:59:19 <steven> he got bitchy today because while mindblanked i cast greater invisibility and started to cast my 'stupid broken spells' AFTER 3 party members had died.
22:59:32 <steven> instead of doing it right as combat started.
23:17:41 <Avatar> considered writing up a short adventure today
23:17:50 <Avatar> sort of like a quest
23:32:05 <steven> I really like how my character is totally broken and OP, but the Magus that consistantly does 500+ damage in a round is fine, the paladin that smite evil's and does 400+ damage in a round, the Other wizard that every round maximized Empowered Intensified Fireball quicken maximized empowered intensified fireball for 300+ damage to multiple targets DC30 is totally fine.
23:32:59 <steven> but my character who does DC36 persistent suffocation... well thats just broken as fuck... gotta get mad at that.