// #d&d — 2015-10-17
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01:05:31 <jkrzywicki> hello?
01:07:13 <s_gmusic> y
02:04:01 Topic for #d&d is: WotW: TBA || PFS: TBA || AEDT (UTC+11:00) || Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au || We're often AFK or at work, so please wait a bit for responses
02:04:01 Topic for #d&d set by ChanOP at Thu Oct 8 01:08:45 2015
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02:08:46 <Ashenfell> Hey hey
02:17:52 <jkrzywicki> hello?
02:41:02 <Steven1> !roll 30d6
02:41:09 <Steven1> !throw 30d6
02:41:09 <diebot> Steven1, 30d6: [30d6=3,5,2,5,4,2,3,1,6,4,5,1,1,2,3,2,6,4,2,4,4,3,1,3,3,2,1,1,6,2] 91
02:56:54 <Steven1> alright, gotta prep to game
02:57:42 <Steven1> got me some high level play on saturday.
02:58:33 <s_gmusic> that's a spicy meatball there, Steven1. what were you casting?
02:59:47 <Steven1> fireballs
03:01:52 <Steven1> yo
03:05:27 <Steven1> what do you mean a Jäger? what beastiary?
03:28:26 <Lintor> yeah when i first looked at dates i looked at the cut off date instead of the event date
03:37:45 <Mekkis> my character
03:38:11 <Mekkis> Jäger, the sorcerer
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03:46:54 <Steven1> 76 spells per day.
04:06:03 <Steven1> probably sit down and talk about arcane theory.... unless you have an int under 20... then i ignore you because you're not worth my time.
04:15:23 <Avatar> yeah yeah me too
04:29:35 <s_gmusic> https://i.imgur.com/qCR6a9C.jpg
04:48:51 <Steven1> meh
05:04:28 <s_gmusic> more convoluted than the Villager Railgun, so it has my support.
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05:41:04 <Steven1> i just cast suffocation
05:41:23 <Steven1> Persistant suffocation dc32
05:42:55 <Steven1> suppose i should buy the inner sea races
05:44:19 <Steven1> suppose i could just buy 90k worth of scrolls...
06:13:39 <Avatar> mekkis are you about
06:13:48 <Avatar> I need your advice on an item
06:14:23 <Avatar> steven's not here
06:14:40 <Avatar> jerome maybe you can help
06:14:58 <Avatar> whaffor
06:19:51 <Avatar> that'll teach him for not answering my questions
06:22:22 <Steven1> bored.
06:30:55 <Brunius> well clearly changing the topic didn't help
06:45:50 <Avatar> steven
06:45:58 <Steven1> what up dawg
06:46:01 <Avatar> if I wore a squirrel suit as a masterwork tool for fly
06:46:11 <Avatar> and then after combat I kept wearing it
06:46:13 <Steven1> you'd look like an idiot
06:46:20 <Avatar> and had to get into a conversation with someone
06:46:27 <Avatar> what would happen
06:46:39 <Steven1> I'd give you a penalty
06:46:51 <Avatar> exactly what I thought
06:47:00 <Steven1> on whatever check you were making to influence the person
06:47:02 <Avatar> a bunch of jokers on facebook say it's not RAW, so no penalty applies
06:47:14 <Steven1> unless you were trying to convince them you're insane
06:47:16 <Avatar> you've just restored my faith in humanity thank you
06:47:18 <Steven1> then you'd get a bonus
06:47:25 <Avatar> thank you
06:47:47 <Steven1> so... played council of thieves tonight
06:48:01 <Steven1> I was the only person to walk away from the fight.
06:48:16 <Avatar> tough AP aye
06:48:38 <Steven1> Its SUPER swingy
06:48:53 <Steven1> 4 level 4 rogues...
06:49:38 <Avatar> lots of flanks
06:51:08 <Steven1> at level 10
06:51:11 <Steven1> sorry phone rang
06:51:20 <Steven1> so at level 10 we fight 4 level 4 rogues
06:51:28 <Steven1> then 2 level 4 rogues
06:51:54 <Steven1> then 4 Dark Creepers
06:52:09 <Steven1> then a level 8 vampire sorc with 8 shadows.
06:52:33 <Steven1> then some more thieves and dark creepers.
06:52:42 <Steven1> then a level 12 wizard
06:52:44 <Avatar> hahaha
06:52:49 <Avatar> 8 vampires with 8 shadows
06:52:58 <Avatar> that is a flee encounter
06:52:59 <Avatar> instaflee
06:53:14 <Steven1> one level 8 sorc that is a vampire
06:53:19 <Steven1> and 8 shadows.
06:54:36 <Steven1> because hey thats is totally a cr appropriate encounter
06:56:00 <Steven1> there are 5 of us.... vamp sorc is cr 9, eight shadows is a CR9 encounter.
06:56:34 <Steven1> except that shadows arent really CR3.
06:59:15 <Avatar> shadows are a joke
06:59:26 <Avatar> if you want to kill the players, put shadows in your game
06:59:45 <Avatar> maybe you should work out how to summon a shadow for your game with that guy
07:00:25 <Steven1> I nearly took an ability for my character that would have let me summon 1d3 shadows with summon nature's ally
07:00:47 <Avatar> do that
07:01:21 <Avatar> figure out a way to drop your wisdom and get confused
07:01:22 <Steven1> nah... i dont really wanna be a douche... the AP itself already seems to be doing that all by itself.
07:01:32 <Avatar> is he in this group
07:02:18 <Steven1> oh the guy im going to kill next session... no that is another game.
07:02:49 <Steven1> what TPK'd us was a Calikang
07:03:05 <Steven1> which if you dont know what those are... they are awesome.
07:03:11 <Steven1> meh... got a shit ton of credit.
07:03:28 <Steven1> its a large sized creature that has 8 attacks a round
07:03:45 <Avatar> sounds like the opposite of awesome
07:03:57 <Steven1> well my character didnt die.
07:04:31 <Steven1> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/monstrous-humanoids/calikang
07:05:32 <Steven1> our party is a barbarian, ninja, paladin, Rogue/magus/arcane trickster, bard(he rarely shows up due to work getting in the way), and my Urbane Druid.
07:05:53 <Steven1> urban*
07:06:18 <Steven1> we died because the paladin rolled 7 attacks and roll 5 natural 1s lol
07:08:40 <Steven1> well... i say we... but really it was they
07:09:47 <Steven1> my character just was like... well sucks to be you guys... /wildshape and goodbye
07:14:23 <Avatar> wait? i'm not waitin fuk dis shit /quit
07:22:06 <Avatar> oh in that case buy me a copy
07:27:37 <Steven1> ON A THREE!
07:27:42 <Steven1> !roll 1d12
07:27:47 <Steven1> !throw 1d12
07:27:48 <diebot> Steven1, 1d12: [1d12=1] 1
07:28:13 <Steven1> sorry mang...
07:40:10 <Steven1> well... these teamwork feats are pretty good.
07:43:41 <Steven1> certainly gives some damn good options for inquisitors.
07:45:30 <Avatar> 5 nat 1's
07:45:34 <Avatar> on one full attack
07:45:38 <Avatar> that is worse luck than my gunslinger
07:45:50 <Avatar> but, uh, only just
07:50:10 <Steven1> not in one turn, over the course of 4 turns.
07:59:18 <steven> Player-R has missed 4 out of 5 sesions because they have forgotten they were going to play and so scheduled different things in the slot
07:59:43 <steven> actually shows up today to play... has no clue what is going on.
08:00:12 <steven> starts complaining about how people didn't consult them on things their character would have been interested in.
08:00:43 <Steven1> alrighty... im goin to sleep now... im actually pretty fatigued.
08:01:53 <steven> we power through it and finish session, I ask when next we want to meet up to play. Pointedly ask Player-R when they are guaranteed to be available... I am now a super asshole.
08:02:21 <steven> I am now plotting how to kill the players character.
08:02:32 <Avatar> are you the GM
08:02:49 <Avatar> a lot of that story doesn't make sense
08:03:54 <steven> i am a player.
08:04:30 <MekkisScreen> Moin moin moin
08:04:30 <MekkisScreen> Lintor
08:04:30 <MekkisScreen> Why weren't you at Paizoconoz
08:04:39 <MekkisScreen> I hear that you were making excuses!
08:04:40 <MekkisScreen> According to gitch
08:04:43 <MekkisScreen> !!!
08:05:52 <steven> if i was a gm there would be less plotting, it would be easy to kill that character
08:12:30 <Mekkis> hmn
08:13:14 <steven> its all good now though... i got scotch
08:22:48 <MekkisScreen> oh?
08:23:05 <MekkisScreen> I need to recreate a character from memory
08:23:24 <steven> watchin me some helling abridged
08:23:31 <steven> hellsing
08:41:32 <Mekkis> My keyboard turned 26 today!
08:56:31 <Mekkis> how do you deal with Jäger?
08:56:55 <Avatar> mekkis what did you think of the squirrel suit dilemma
08:57:10 <Mekkis> ummm? what?
08:57:19 <Avatar> if I bought a masterwork tool for fly
08:57:23 <Avatar> it's a squirrel suit
08:57:30 <Avatar> and I keep it on after combat, and later get into a conversation with someone
08:57:34 <Avatar> what would happen
08:59:01 <Avatar> are you still there
08:59:12 <Avatar> are you looking up the rules or what
08:59:39 <Avatar> hopefully a 4-star GM doesn't have to think too hard about this one
08:59:41 <Mekkis> ummm
08:59:53 <Mekkis> I've always used the term 'wingsuit'
09:00:03 <Mekkis> rather than squirrel suit. Was looking up he terminology
09:00:05 <Avatar> sure it's a wingsuit
09:00:15 <Avatar> you get into conversation with an npc later
09:00:21 <Avatar> what happens next
09:00:39 <Mekkis> well...
09:00:53 <Mekkis> if it's a typical fantasy setting...
09:01:03 <Avatar> golarion
09:01:04 <Mekkis> chances are the wingsuit doesn't work as advertised
09:01:16 <Avatar> it's a masterwork tool
09:01:18 <Avatar> it has to work
09:01:21 <Avatar> for flying
09:01:27 <Mekkis> no it doesn't
09:01:37 <Avatar> for hovering
09:01:40 <Avatar> specifically
09:02:12 <Avatar> let's assume for argument's sake that it does work
09:02:30 <Avatar> but after combat it's left on and you need to persuade an NPC to help you with something
09:02:34 <Avatar> what happens
09:02:41 <Mekkis> depends on the NPC
09:02:48 <Avatar> generic NPC #1
09:03:06 <Mekkis> if the NPC is some kind of gnomish alchemist, they might be somewhat excited that someone's crazy enough to try it
09:03:39 <Avatar> the npc is just some guy with information
09:03:58 <Mekkis> if the NPC is a scared Ustalavian farmer, then they'd possibly be more wary, due to the resemblance of a bat.
09:04:11 <Mekkis> There is no such thing as "generic NPC #1"
09:04:25 <Mekkis> if you're introducing such a character, you're not a Good GM.
09:04:27 <Avatar> a peasant
09:04:33 <Avatar> or a merchant
09:04:36 <Avatar> or a guard
09:04:44 <Avatar> common NPCs
09:04:54 <Mekkis> what country?
09:04:56 <Avatar> not specialised gnomish alchemists
09:05:16 <Avatar> I am beginning to think this was a mistake
09:07:22 <Avatar> I would make excuses
09:11:51 <aidrocsid> mornin
09:21:14 <Mekkis> a peasant might thing you were more crazy than the 'typical adventurer'
09:21:37 <Mekkis> a merchant might try and sell you space to take it off.
09:21:46 <Mekkis> a guard might enforce a dress code
09:22:33 <Steven1> best guess it baby!
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09:57:42 <Avatar> does it affect diplomacy
10:10:15 <Mekkis> steven, you're fragging a character?!
10:10:55 <steven> gonna try to next session we play. Its not pfs so its legal beagle
10:11:01 <Mekkis> possibly
10:11:05 <Mekkis> !spell unholy blight
10:11:10 <diebot> Mekkis, UNHOLY BLIGHT evocation ([evil]) cleric/oracle 4, inquisitor 4 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous (1d4 rounds); see text Save: Will partial SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
10:11:11 <diebot> You call up unholy power to smite your enemies. The power takes the form of a cold, cloying miasma of greasy darkness. Only good and neutral (not evil) creatures are harmed by the spell. The spell deals 1d8 points of damage per two caster levels (maximum 5d8) to a good creature (or 1d6 per caster level, maximum 10d6, to a good outsider) and causes
10:11:11 <diebot> it to be sickened for 1d4 rounds. A successful Will save reduces damage to half and negates the sickened effect. The effects cannot be negated by remove disease or heal, but remove curse is effective. The spell deals only half damage to creatures who are neither evil nor good, and they are not sickened. Such a creature can reduce the damage by half
10:11:11 <diebot> again (down to one-quarter) with a successful Will save.
10:11:55 <Mekkis> steven, rules question: how much damage does an intensified unholy blight do to a good creature (non-outsider), when cast at CL20?
10:14:11 <steven> 7d6
10:16:35 <Mekkis> oh, not 10d6
10:17:37 <Mekkis> Looks like I'll be inching one more year towards Middle Age tomorrow
10:17:58 <Steven1> sup.
10:18:00 <Mekkis> looking forwards that that extra int, wis and cha!
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10:18:42 <steven> i wish it was 5 extra damage dice.
10:19:25 <steven> intensified really falls short when you run into spells that are 1/2 or worse damage dice per level.
10:20:57 <steven> yeah... evil druid!
10:21:24 <Mekkis> Intensify Spell [Metamagic] [Epic]
10:21:25 <Mekkis> You can cast spells with exceptionally great effect.
10:21:25 <Mekkis> Prerequisites: Empower Spell, Maximize Spell, Spellcraft 30 ranks, ability to cast 9th-level arcane or divine spells.
10:21:25 <Mekkis> Benefit: All variable, numeric effects of an intensi- fied spell are maximized, then doubled. An intensified spell deals twice maximum damage, cures twice the maximum number of hit points, affects twice the maxi- mum number of targets, and so forth, as appropriate. For example, an intensified horrid wilting spell would deal 16 points of damage per caster level (up to a maxi- mum of 400 points of damage at 25th level). Saving throws and opposed rol
10:21:28 <Mekkis> ls (such as the one you make when you cast dispel magic) are not affected. An intensi- fied spell uses up a spell slot seven levels higher than the spell's actual level. You can't combine the effects of this feat with any other feat that affects the variable, numeric effects of a spell, such as Empower Spell or Maximize Spell.
10:22:27 <steven> its intenified spell
10:22:30 <Avatar> mate everything is possibly with you
10:22:52 <steven> !feat intensified spell
10:22:53 <diebot> steven, error with query
10:23:05 <steven> !feat intensified
10:23:05 <diebot> steven, error with query
10:23:14 <steven> hmmm...
10:24:08 <Mekkis> weird
10:24:37 <steven> yeah.
10:25:08 <steven> ive decided im going to rock a Half orc NE druid for my replacement charater in Council of thieves.
10:27:45 <steven> thinking urban druid
10:31:06 <Mekkis> seems interesting
10:38:49 <Mekkis> How is your paizo credit looking these days?
10:38:50 <steven> my character bounced after seeing some shit and the party not helping me change it... was all out of spells that could do anyting offensive.
10:39:12 <steven> scrooge mcduck my way through that shit son!
10:43:14 <Mekkis> Oh, your cleric?
10:44:53 <steven> my Transmuter wizard that the party needed super bad.
10:45:38 <steven> we saw some super evil shit, my character was like help me stop this... everyone was like meh... shit happens. and the paladin was like 'seems legit' so my character just bounced.
10:55:26 <Mekkis> that's how a good RPG should be :)
11:01:16 <Avatar> I am trying to get a straight answer for a general situation
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11:11:31 <steven> damn urban druids pretty good.
11:17:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, my straight answer would be: it would likely be akin to wearing any other unfamiliar clothing, which would most likely affect the NPC's reaction
11:20:08 <Mekkis> also: wingsuits weren't effective until the 1980s and weren't in general production until 1999.
11:43:30 <Lintor> the team work feats are also really good for hunter
12:06:16 <aidrocsid> Reading a thread on reddit about Shadow of the Colossus style encounters. Totally going to slip a colossal glaucite robot into Iron Gods
13:18:08 <Steven1> alright, gotta prep to game
13:18:56 <Steven1> got me some high level play on saturday.
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13:30:54 <Dio_ooc> Howdy, local group where I am folded and I figured I'd check out my online options. Not in Australia myself, but work gives me an odd schedule, so US gaming is usually out.
13:32:09 <Dio_ooc> Fairly experienced in Pathfinder, last game I played was 3.5 dnd, also play a slew of other tabletops.
13:33:13 <Dio_ooc> Mainly interested in Path though, I think my society account is still floating around out there somewhere.
13:35:48 <s_gmusic> yo
13:36:15 <Dio_ooc> Hey
13:36:43 <Dio_ooc> Hows it going?
13:37:05 <s_gmusic> as the topic states, most of us here are afk or otherwise distracted, so don't be surprised if you don't hear much. Steven and I are both state-side as well, but that doesn't matter
13:37:28 <Dio_ooc> Yea, I figured.
13:37:30 <s_gmusic> things go well on my end. still trying to get my runelords character killed.
13:38:04 <s_gmusic> havn't played society for a while, though.
13:38:09 <Dio_ooc> Same
13:38:55 <Dio_ooc> My last gnome illusionist I had trouble killing, finally stuck though.
13:40:09 <s_gmusic> yeah, but I have a BDF, so it should be easy to kill him. GM keeps lowballing me. :|
13:42:47 <Dio_ooc> I haven't played runelords in a while, I think I remember it bein pretty fun though
13:43:17 <Dio_ooc> I had one of those once though, was a dwarf helmet fighter I made for giggles
13:46:15 <s_gmusic> human lvl 1 samurai/lvl 10 fighter. Good AC and moderate damage. it's not PFS-minmaxed, though.
13:47:13 <Dio_ooc> I never cared to much for min/maxing really. I will if it calls for it, not terrible at it, but but having played games like legend of the five rings, I'm used to purely political court intrigue games.
13:47:30 <Dio_ooc> Where swords are more for fancy show.
13:47:46 <Lintor> hey dio prob wont hear from the aussie guys for awhile is 3:30 am over here atm
13:47:59 <Dio_ooc> ouch
13:48:02 <Lintor> ;) good thing s_g is here to chat
13:48:05 <Dio_ooc> No prob
13:48:22 <s_gmusic> heh, somewhat. need to go get breakfast and work on Destiny a bit. >.>
13:48:32 <s_gmusic> well, as soon as I fix my router.
13:48:41 <Lintor> well i am off to sleeps have fun guys
13:48:45 <Dio_ooc> I got errands before 2nd job anywho, just really wanted to drop in, touch base, see whats shaking
13:48:48 <s_gmusic> wifi is derping hard on it. good thing I use a cable for this computer
13:48:50 <Dio_ooc> g'night
13:49:08 <s_gmusic> later, Lintor
13:52:21 <Dio_ooc> Looks like games would prolly be early mornin for me, which is good.
14:08:08 <Steven1> 76 spells per day.
14:50:50 <s_gmusic> https://i.imgur.com/qCR6a9C.jpg
15:10:05 <Steven1> meh
15:25:42 <s_gmusic> more convoluted than the Villager Railgun, so it has my support.
16:02:18 <Steven1> i just cast suffocation
16:02:37 <Steven1> Persistant suffocation dc32
16:40:38 <Steven1> yo
16:44:12 <Steven1> what do you mean a Jäger? what beastiary?
17:16:29 <Mekkis> my character
17:16:56 <Mekkis> Jäger, the sorcerer
19:17:46 <Mekkis> how do you deal with Jäger?
19:18:09 <Avatar> mekkis what did you think of the squirrel suit dilemma
19:18:25 <Mekkis> ummm? what?
19:18:34 <Avatar> if I bought a masterwork tool for fly
19:18:37 <Avatar> it's a squirrel suit
19:18:45 <Avatar> and I keep it on after combat, and later get into a conversation with someone
19:18:48 <Avatar> what would happen
19:20:14 <Avatar> are you still there
19:20:27 <Avatar> are you looking up the rules or what
19:20:54 <Avatar> hopefully a 4-star GM doesn't have to think too hard about this one
19:20:56 <Mekkis> ummm
19:21:08 <Mekkis> I've always used the term 'wingsuit'
19:21:18 <Mekkis> rather than squirrel suit. Was looking up he terminology
19:21:19 <Avatar> sure it's a wingsuit
19:21:29 <Avatar> you get into conversation with an npc later
19:21:35 <Avatar> what happens next
19:21:54 <Mekkis> well...
19:22:08 <Mekkis> if it's a typical fantasy setting...
19:22:17 <Avatar> golarion
19:22:19 <Mekkis> chances are the wingsuit doesn't work as advertised
19:22:30 <Avatar> it's a masterwork tool
19:22:32 <Avatar> it has to work
19:22:35 <Avatar> for flying
19:22:42 <Mekkis> no it doesn't
19:22:52 <Avatar> for hovering
19:22:54 <Avatar> specifically
19:23:26 <Avatar> let's assume for argument's sake that it does work
19:23:44 <Avatar> but after combat it's left on and you need to persuade an NPC to help you with something
19:23:49 <Avatar> what happens
19:23:56 <Mekkis> depends on the NPC
19:24:02 <Avatar> generic NPC #1
19:24:21 <Mekkis> if the NPC is some kind of gnomish alchemist, they might be somewhat excited that someone's crazy enough to try it
19:24:54 <Avatar> the npc is just some guy with information
19:25:13 <Mekkis> if the NPC is a scared Ustalavian farmer, then they'd possibly be more wary, due to the resemblance of a bat.
19:25:26 <Mekkis> There is no such thing as "generic NPC #1"
19:25:40 <Mekkis> if you're introducing such a character, you're not a Good GM.
19:25:41 <Avatar> a peasant
19:25:48 <Avatar> or a merchant
19:25:50 <Avatar> or a guard
19:25:59 <Avatar> common NPCs
19:26:09 <Mekkis> what country?
19:26:10 <Avatar> not specialised gnomish alchemists
19:26:31 <Avatar> I am beginning to think this was a mistake
19:42:29 <Mekkis> a peasant might thing you were more crazy than the 'typical adventurer'
19:42:52 <Mekkis> a merchant might try and sell you space to take it off.
19:43:01 <Mekkis> a guard might enforce a dress code
20:18:57 <Avatar> does it affect diplomacy
20:32:16 <Mekkis> possibly
20:43:44 <Avatar> mate everything is possibly with you
21:11:44 <Steven1> buildin a level 10 character
21:16:41 <Mekkis> that's how a good RPG should be :)
21:19:47 <silentsara> alright. so just starting to get really powerful...
21:21:16 <Steven1> yeah, dunno what im gonna make. limiting myself to core and apg
21:22:31 <Avatar> I am trying to get a straight answer for a general situation
21:25:30 <silentsara> an aristo ;)
21:39:02 <Mekkis> Avatar, my straight answer would be: it would likely be akin to wearing any other unfamiliar clothing, which would most likely affect the NPC's reaction
21:41:22 <Mekkis> also: wingsuits weren't effective until the 1980s and weren't in general production until 1999.
21:42:49 <silentsara> alirght. well, it was nice to meet you
21:44:31 <Steven1> man, boring day.
21:45:49 <silentsara> yeah?
21:48:25 <Steven1> yup
21:58:36 <silentsara> sorry to hear that
21:58:43 <silentsara> goodnight
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23:03:56 <Mekkis> Steven1, well, his int is <20. But his charisma makes up for it. More to the point, he sometimes has a dislike of wizards.
23:13:18 <Avatar`> less than 20 lol
23:13:21 <Avatar`> that's so low
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23:39:26 <Mekkis> I assume that Ballig is around now
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