// #d&d — 2015-10-19
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00:00:25 <Mekkis> The proper response to a chemical weapon attack is not “Tell my chain of command what I really think about them, and then poke holes in their masks.”
00:39:26 <steven> its cool... im drinking scotch now. everything is right with the world.
00:39:39 <steven> You should drink some scotch mekkis.
00:42:13 <Mekkis> it's midday
00:43:38 <steven> you say that like that is a deterrent
00:58:10 <Brunius> Because I'm a killjoy
01:36:32 <steven> at least he is hnest
01:41:52 <steven> leveled up my character i played yesterday. Now level 18. 288 Skill points.
02:41:02 <Steven1> !roll 30d6
02:41:09 <Steven1> !throw 30d6
02:41:09 <diebot> Steven1, 30d6: [30d6=3,5,2,5,4,2,3,1,6,4,5,1,1,2,3,2,6,4,2,4,4,3,1,3,3,2,1,1,6,2] 91
02:58:33 <s_gmusic> that's a spicy meatball there, Steven1. what were you casting?
02:59:47 <Steven1> fireballs
03:01:52 <Steven1> yo
03:05:27 <Steven1> what do you mean a Jäger? what beastiary?
03:37:45 <Mekkis> my character
03:38:11 <Mekkis> Jäger, the sorcerer
04:06:03 <Steven1> probably sit down and talk about arcane theory.... unless you have an int under 20... then i ignore you because you're not worth my time.
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05:39:38 <Avatar> steven we played a game that time, what was it, the one mort GM'd
05:39:51 <Avatar> I thought you were OP but you used your character pretty damn impressively considering
05:39:57 <steven> fuck if i remember.
05:40:02 <Avatar> mate I remember
05:40:18 <steven> let me go look it up.
05:40:29 <Avatar> I don't mind a character being OP if it's balancing out the party
05:41:27 <steven> Master of the fallen fortress or heresy of man p3
05:44:19 <Steven1> suppose i could just buy 90k worth of scrolls...
05:44:46 <Avatar> heresy 3
05:44:54 <steven> why did i do?
05:44:55 <Avatar> I haven't played MotFF
05:45:07 <Avatar> I think you brought your life oracle
05:45:18 <steven> oh yeah... the dumb channeler
05:50:22 <steven> why ya wanna know
05:51:36 <Avatar> I'm just saying, relating to walter's comment
05:51:47 <Avatar> if 3 people are down, damn!
05:52:12 <steven> yeah... i was pulling punches all game.
05:52:38 <steven> only cast 3 suffocations the entire game.
05:55:29 <steven> end of fight she was blinded, deafened, cursed 4 times and then suffocated.
05:57:06 <steven> AFTER i suffocated the womans Familiar.
05:57:11 <steven> just to be a dick
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06:13:39 <Avatar> mekkis are you about
06:13:48 <Avatar> I need your advice on an item
06:14:23 <Avatar> steven's not here
06:14:40 <Avatar> jerome maybe you can help
06:19:51 <Avatar> that'll teach him for not answering my questions
06:39:16 <Mekkis> I think I should drink xome scotch
06:45:50 <Avatar> steven
06:45:58 <Steven1> what up dawg
06:46:01 <Avatar> if I wore a squirrel suit as a masterwork tool for fly
06:46:11 <Avatar> and then after combat I kept wearing it
06:46:13 <Steven1> you'd look like an idiot
06:46:20 <Avatar> and had to get into a conversation with someone
06:46:27 <Avatar> what would happen
06:46:39 <Steven1> I'd give you a penalty
06:46:51 <Avatar> exactly what I thought
06:47:00 <Steven1> on whatever check you were making to influence the person
06:47:02 <Avatar> a bunch of jokers on facebook say it's not RAW, so no penalty applies
06:47:14 <Steven1> unless you were trying to convince them you're insane
06:47:16 <Avatar> you've just restored my faith in humanity thank you
06:47:18 <Steven1> then you'd get a bonus
06:47:25 <Avatar> thank you
06:47:47 <Steven1> so... played council of thieves tonight
06:48:01 <Steven1> I was the only person to walk away from the fight.
06:48:10 <steven> do it
06:48:16 <Avatar> tough AP aye
06:48:38 <Steven1> Its SUPER swingy
06:48:53 <Steven1> 4 level 4 rogues...
06:49:38 <Avatar> lots of flanks
06:51:08 <Steven1> at level 10
06:51:11 <Steven1> sorry phone rang
06:51:20 <Steven1> so at level 10 we fight 4 level 4 rogues
06:51:28 <Steven1> then 2 level 4 rogues
06:51:54 <Steven1> then 4 Dark Creepers
06:52:09 <Steven1> then a level 8 vampire sorc with 8 shadows.
06:52:33 <Steven1> then some more thieves and dark creepers.
06:52:42 <Steven1> then a level 12 wizard
06:52:44 <Avatar> hahaha
06:52:49 <Avatar> 8 vampires with 8 shadows
06:52:58 <Avatar> that is a flee encounter
06:52:59 <Avatar> instaflee
06:53:14 <Steven1> one level 8 sorc that is a vampire
06:53:19 <Steven1> and 8 shadows.
06:54:36 <Steven1> because hey thats is totally a cr appropriate encounter
06:56:00 <Steven1> there are 5 of us.... vamp sorc is cr 9, eight shadows is a CR9 encounter.
06:56:34 <Steven1> except that shadows arent really CR3.
06:59:15 <Avatar> shadows are a joke
06:59:26 <Avatar> if you want to kill the players, put shadows in your game
06:59:45 <Avatar> maybe you should work out how to summon a shadow for your game with that guy
07:00:25 <Steven1> I nearly took an ability for my character that would have let me summon 1d3 shadows with summon nature's ally
07:00:47 <Avatar> do that
07:01:21 <Avatar> figure out a way to drop your wisdom and get confused
07:01:22 <Steven1> nah... i dont really wanna be a douche... the AP itself already seems to be doing that all by itself.
07:01:32 <Avatar> is he in this group
07:02:18 <Steven1> oh the guy im going to kill next session... no that is another game.
07:02:49 <Steven1> what TPK'd us was a Calikang
07:03:05 <Steven1> which if you dont know what those are... they are awesome.
07:03:28 <Steven1> its a large sized creature that has 8 attacks a round
07:03:45 <Avatar> sounds like the opposite of awesome
07:03:57 <Steven1> well my character didnt die.
07:04:31 <Steven1> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/monstrous-humanoids/calikang
07:05:32 <Steven1> our party is a barbarian, ninja, paladin, Rogue/magus/arcane trickster, bard(he rarely shows up due to work getting in the way), and my Urbane Druid.
07:05:53 <Steven1> urban*
07:06:18 <Steven1> we died because the paladin rolled 7 attacks and roll 5 natural 1s lol
07:08:40 <Steven1> well... i say we... but really it was they
07:09:47 <Steven1> my character just was like... well sucks to be you guys... /wildshape and goodbye
07:20:49 <Mekkis> I want to play a weredingo
07:27:15 <Avatar> you already are a weredingo ! har har har
07:45:30 <Avatar> 5 nat 1's
07:45:34 <Avatar> on one full attack
07:45:38 <Avatar> that is worse luck than my gunslinger
07:45:50 <Avatar> but, uh, only just
07:50:10 <Steven1> not in one turn, over the course of 4 turns.
08:00:43 <Steven1> alrighty... im goin to sleep now... im actually pretty fatigued.
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09:25:11 <Mekkis> Steven1, well, his int is <20. But his charisma makes up for it. More to the point, he sometimes has a dislike of wizards.
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09:34:34 <Avatar`> less than 20 lol
09:34:37 <Avatar`> that's so low
09:42:27 <Mekkis> Brunius, will you let me play a weredingo in your game?
09:42:37 <Brunius> No
09:42:47 <Mekkis> why not?
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10:00:42 <Mekkis> I assume that Ballig is around now
10:01:57 Topic for #d&d is: WotW: TBA || PFS: TBA || AEDT (UTC+11:00) || Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au || We're often AFK or at work, so please wait a bit for responses
10:01:57 Topic for #d&d set by ChanOP at Thu Oct 8 01:08:45 2015
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10:27:45 <steven> thinking urban druid
10:31:06 <Mekkis> seems interesting
10:38:49 <Mekkis> How is your paizo credit looking these days?
10:38:50 <steven> my character bounced after seeing some shit and the party not helping me change it... was all out of spells that could do anyting offensive.
10:39:12 <steven> scrooge mcduck my way through that shit son!
10:43:14 <Mekkis> Oh, your cleric?
10:44:53 <steven> my Transmuter wizard that the party needed super bad.
10:45:38 <steven> we saw some super evil shit, my character was like help me stop this... everyone was like meh... shit happens. and the paladin was like 'seems legit' so my character just bounced.
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11:11:31 <steven> damn urban druids pretty good.
11:19:27 <Brunius> Because I'm a killjoy
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11:57:49 <steven> at least he is hnest
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12:03:09 <steven> leveled up my character i played yesterday. Now level 18. 288 Skill points.
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12:37:41 <Steven1> After a few moments of conversation I'd probably just leave.
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13:18:08 <Steven1> alright, gotta prep to game
13:18:56 <Steven1> got me some high level play on saturday.
14:08:08 <Steven1> 76 spells per day.
14:50:50 <s_gmusic> https://i.imgur.com/qCR6a9C.jpg
15:10:05 <Steven1> meh
15:25:42 <s_gmusic> more convoluted than the Villager Railgun, so it has my support.
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16:02:18 <Steven1> i just cast suffocation
16:02:37 <Steven1> Persistant suffocation dc32
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18:01:46 <Avatar> just in case I twig any powergamer ideas, I was joking about less than 20 being so low
19:17:46 <Mekkis> how do you deal with Jäger?
19:18:09 <Avatar> mekkis what did you think of the squirrel suit dilemma
19:18:25 <Mekkis> ummm? what?
19:18:34 <Avatar> if I bought a masterwork tool for fly
19:18:37 <Avatar> it's a squirrel suit
19:18:45 <Avatar> and I keep it on after combat, and later get into a conversation with someone
19:18:48 <Avatar> what would happen
19:20:14 <Avatar> are you still there
19:20:27 <Avatar> are you looking up the rules or what
19:20:54 <Avatar> hopefully a 4-star GM doesn't have to think too hard about this one
19:20:56 <Mekkis> ummm
19:21:08 <Mekkis> I've always used the term 'wingsuit'
19:21:18 <Mekkis> rather than squirrel suit. Was looking up he terminology
19:21:19 <Avatar> sure it's a wingsuit
19:21:29 <Avatar> you get into conversation with an npc later
19:21:35 <Avatar> what happens next
19:21:54 <Mekkis> well...
19:22:08 <Mekkis> if it's a typical fantasy setting...
19:22:17 <Avatar> golarion
19:22:19 <Mekkis> chances are the wingsuit doesn't work as advertised
19:22:30 <Avatar> it's a masterwork tool
19:22:32 <Avatar> it has to work
19:22:35 <Avatar> for flying
19:22:42 <Mekkis> no it doesn't
19:22:52 <Avatar> for hovering
19:22:54 <Avatar> specifically
19:23:26 <Avatar> let's assume for argument's sake that it does work
19:23:44 <Avatar> but after combat it's left on and you need to persuade an NPC to help you with something
19:23:49 <Avatar> what happens
19:23:56 <Mekkis> depends on the NPC
19:24:02 <Avatar> generic NPC #1
19:24:21 <Mekkis> if the NPC is some kind of gnomish alchemist, they might be somewhat excited that someone's crazy enough to try it
19:24:54 <Avatar> the npc is just some guy with information
19:25:13 <Mekkis> if the NPC is a scared Ustalavian farmer, then they'd possibly be more wary, due to the resemblance of a bat.
19:25:26 <Mekkis> There is no such thing as "generic NPC #1"
19:25:40 <Mekkis> if you're introducing such a character, you're not a Good GM.
19:25:41 <Avatar> a peasant
19:25:48 <Avatar> or a merchant
19:25:50 <Avatar> or a guard
19:25:59 <Avatar> common NPCs
19:26:09 <Mekkis> what country?
19:26:10 <Avatar> not specialised gnomish alchemists
19:26:31 <Avatar> I am beginning to think this was a mistake
19:42:29 <Mekkis> a peasant might thing you were more crazy than the 'typical adventurer'
19:42:52 <Mekkis> a merchant might try and sell you space to take it off.
19:43:01 <Mekkis> a guard might enforce a dress code
20:18:57 <Avatar> does it affect diplomacy
20:32:16 <Mekkis> possibly
20:40:58 <mib_p3lxd1> Hello people
20:41:16 <mib_p3lxd1> I'm trying to find people to play dnd online but I can't find how or where
20:43:44 <Avatar> mate everything is possibly with you
21:16:41 <Mekkis> that's how a good RPG should be :)
21:22:31 <Avatar> I am trying to get a straight answer for a general situation
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21:32:57 <Brunius> Mekkis: I'm thinking I should figure out how to use qt. Any input?
21:39:02 <Mekkis> Avatar, my straight answer would be: it would likely be akin to wearing any other unfamiliar clothing, which would most likely affect the NPC's reaction
21:41:22 <Mekkis> also: wingsuits weren't effective until the 1980s and weren't in general production until 1999.
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21:54:36 <Avatar> and I don't know how or why
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22:55:34 <steven> yo
22:56:48 <steven> man... sometimes i really dislike walter as a gm...
22:59:19 <steven> he got bitchy today because while mindblanked i cast greater invisibility and started to cast my 'stupid broken spells' AFTER 3 party members had died.
22:59:32 <steven> instead of doing it right as combat started.
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23:23:34 <Avatar> Brunius, here's some input to help you get started
23:23:37 <Avatar> wherever you go, there you are
23:32:05 <steven> I really like how my character is totally broken and OP, but the Magus that consistantly does 500+ damage in a round is fine, the paladin that smite evil's and does 400+ damage in a round, the Other wizard that every round maximized Empowered Intensified Fireball quicken maximized empowered intensified fireball for 300+ damage to multiple targets DC30 is totally fine.
23:32:59 <steven> but my character who does DC36 persistent suffocation... well thats just broken as fuck... gotta get mad at that.
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