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00:34:33 <Steven> well depending on how the GM handles things the technologist feat is a feat tax or completely worthless.
00:35:45 <Steven> None of my players at paizocon had the feat and they all did fine in the scenario.
00:39:59 <Avatar> you just don't get to learn the lore which makes the game interesting
00:52:56 <Steven> if you get a decent GM you mostly dont get to know the abilities of creatures you meat until you actually see the ability, then you get to work it out.
00:54:41 <Steven> heh meat... lol
02:38:43 <mib_6d5dx1> hello?
02:42:01 <mib_6d5dx1> is anybody alive?
04:07:41 <Steven1> mouth is on fire.
04:10:14 <s_gmusic> just wait until later. xD
04:11:51 <Steven1> it will be worth it if i get over this cold.
04:21:24 <Steven1> so new PM... pretty exciting for you guys.
04:21:34 <Steven1> as i understand it, he was not well liked.
04:34:51 <Sprayer> hello
04:41:36 <Steven1> hey
05:37:56 <Avatar> steven: I would not eat food made by anyone who throws stuff at me
05:38:04 <Avatar> unless I am PARTICULARLY hungry
05:38:06 <steven> word
06:01:55 <Mekkis> Steven1, he's better liked than old PM
06:17:44 <Avatar> that's about where it ends
06:18:03 <Avatar> maybe that's not fair
06:18:10 <Avatar> I don't think the new PM will be eating raw onions
06:18:33 <Avatar> for no reason except to show he likes eating raw onions
06:23:20 <Steven1> he ate raw onions... that mother fucker is hardcore.
06:24:34 <Avatar> not even a PR stunt
06:24:39 <Avatar> just because
06:25:11 <Avatar> there's a thread on facebook where he gives a speech on his page
06:25:26 <Avatar> reading the comments is very discouraging
06:25:34 <Avatar> so much heartfelt support for him
06:25:53 <Steven1> lol
06:52:01 <Avatar> bluff is the best skill in the game
07:04:33 <Steven1> so aparantly i'm a horrible prson because i didnt want to eat a bland pot pie my friend made.
07:07:25 <Steven1> playing an ap tonight with my wizard
07:07:32 <Steven1> found a ring of wizardry
07:07:52 <Steven1> soon as i rest 8 magic missiles per day.
07:18:05 <Avatar> what?
07:18:25 <Avatar> you are starting to sound like mekkis with your no-context one-liners
07:18:44 <Avatar> in other news, online con begins in mid november
07:18:59 <Avatar> https://warhorn.net/events/aethercon-iv
07:19:24 <Steven1> im editing it down so that i can just post this conversation.
07:19:52 <Avatar> a line like that requires explanation mate
07:20:00 <Avatar> you can't just let it sit until it baits a reply
07:20:03 <Avatar> we're listening
07:20:06 <Steven1> im editing the conversation down... like right now.
07:20:08 <Avatar> your good story will bait a reply
07:20:16 <Avatar> alright well on the double
07:20:17 <Steven1> so that i can post it.
07:22:07 <Avatar> having said that about the con and that link, I can't actually see the games yet
07:22:13 <Avatar> I assume they will on there in due course
07:22:30 <Avatar> unless I'm looking at the wrong spot
07:24:12 <Steven1> Steve
07:24:12 <Steven1> I want some Tacos!
07:24:12 <Steven1> Rikki
07:24:12 <Steven1> I would make you some Steve but you don't like anything I make
07:24:12 <Steven1> Steven
07:24:12 <Steven1> That is not true rikki... I just didnt like anything you made last time.
07:24:12 <Steven1> Rikki
07:24:12 <Steven1> You didn't try it
07:24:12 <Steven1> Steven
07:24:12 <Steven1> i didnt need to.
07:24:12 <Steven1> I smelled it.
07:24:12 <Steven1> You're a dick
07:24:12 <Steven1> I'm sorry I have a fantastic sense of smell
07:24:12 <Steven1> No you dont
07:24:12 <Steven1> I smelled the potpie and determined I didn't want any based on what I smelled. Get over it. When you cook things some people arent going to want to eat it. I've cooked thousands of meals over the course of my life and sometimes people didn't want to try what i cooked. Doesn't mean it was bad, it just means they didn't want any.
07:24:12 <Steven1> A.j.
07:24:12 <Steven1> "You're bad and you should feel bad!" - basically what this quarrel sums up to.
07:24:36 <steven> damn it, i forgot the spam thing
07:24:40 <steven> how much got through?
07:25:36 <Avatar> she sounds passionate about making you eat her things
07:26:14 <steven> yuuuuuup
07:26:45 <steven> so thats why im saying... i'm obviously a horrible person because i didnt want to eat somebodies bland pot pie
07:26:54 <Avatar> I would have stuck with I don't want to eat your things
07:27:03 <Avatar> none of this 'last time' garbage that just kept going on and on
07:27:20 <steven> Well... she made a pie once that was decent.
07:27:26 <steven> i ate some of the pie.
07:27:39 <Avatar> why didn't you bring that up
07:27:50 <steven> She has a problem with getting 'adventurous' with flavors.
07:28:00 <Avatar> gotta add some niceties into the conversation when you're abusing their current cooking
07:28:07 <steven> which isnt a bad thing... unless its a bad adventure.
07:29:01 <steven> Well, I know how to cook, I have about 200 or so recipes saved to my drive. She knows I'm a good cook, and when she cant figure out how to do something she calls me and i send her a recipe.
07:29:10 <steven> and then she destroys it by trying to get creative.
07:30:06 <steven> so if you bring me something to eat and ask me how it is... I'm going to give you my honest opinion because thats how you get better as a cook, by people telling you what is shit and what is not.
07:31:06 <steven> so i smelt her pot pie, i could tell by the smell she forgot to add any spices to it. Why would i want to eat pie crust, chicken, potatos, and carrots in a thin gravy?
07:31:25 <steven> so i told her she forgot spices... like not even any pepper.
07:31:47 <steven> and gave her suggestions on spices she could add.
07:32:06 <steven> dash of paparika for flavor but no spice
07:32:14 <steven> pepper, salt
07:33:15 <steven> basically anything
07:33:35 <steven> and as you can tell... she is quite upset.
07:37:38 <steven> she actually threw stuff at me today.
07:37:43 <steven> which was very annoying.
08:09:01 <Mekkis> Avatar, am I introverted or extroverted?
08:10:36 <Steven1> How much have you had to drink
08:10:50 <Mekkis> Nothing. For weeks now
08:17:42 <Avatar> extroverted
08:21:56 <Mekkis> really?
09:02:31 Topic for #d&d is: WotW: TBA || PFS: TBA || AEST (UTC+10:00) || Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
09:02:31 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Sep 13 21:37:38 2015
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09:02:41 <Steven1> yeah you're way more introvered when you're bombed
09:22:51 <Avatar> do you play PFS
09:24:16 <aidrocsid> nah just home games
09:41:48 <Xenaris> Hello everyone
09:42:34 <Xenaris> anyone here?
09:54:56 <Steven1> yo
09:55:51 <Sprayer> hi
09:56:20 <Steven1> yo
09:56:36 <Sprayer> much going on here?
09:56:44 <Sprayer> any ladies here tonight?
09:57:21 <Mekkis> http://1v1d1e1lmiki1lgcvx32p49h8fe.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/bishop-canning.jpg
09:57:28 <Xenaris> would anyone be interested in a game in an hour or so?
09:57:50 <Xenaris> it would be a friends game, and not PFS
10:09:07 <aidrocsid1> any of you guys from japan?
10:14:19 <Xenaris> I am
10:15:33 <Steven1> alright back.
10:16:24 <Steven1> so what up peeps.
10:16:42 <Xenaris> I need a replacement for someone who bailed on us
10:16:52 <Xenaris> if youd like to join a game in an hour
10:17:08 <Steven1> depends... what is it?
10:17:28 <Xenaris> pathfinder, core rulebook, 2d6+6 starting stats
10:17:41 <Xenaris> everyone is level 1
10:18:57 <aidrocsid1> Xenaris do you know anybody who works at hitachi?
10:19:10 <Xenaris> fraid not
10:19:13 <aidrocsid1> bugger
10:19:17 <aidrocsid1> put your feelers out for me?
10:19:23 <Steven1> ooh, not pfs.
10:19:36 <aidrocsid1> i'm trying to get an interview with omebody who's worked for or overseen the AI manager
10:19:42 <aidrocsid1> anyway i gotta go to work lol bbl
10:19:51 <Xenaris> later man
10:20:05 <Steven1> see ya drocs
10:20:48 <Xenaris> yah not pfs... I would like to play pfs but alas I cannot find anyone else who wants to play pfs
10:21:41 <Steven1> I dont play pfs much anymore either
10:22:27 <Steven1> Mostly just as conventions. otherwise i play APs.
10:22:39 <Sprayer> hi
10:22:42 <Xenaris> hi
10:22:49 <Steven1> hey sprayer
10:23:08 <Steven1> welcome back.
10:23:11 <Xenaris> well if either of you want to join the game in the hour you are welcome
10:23:21 <Xenaris> pathfinder, core rulebook, 2d6+6 starting stats
10:23:35 <Xenaris> need skype and roll 20
10:23:50 <Steven1> would this be a regularly scheduled game or just a one time thing.
10:23:56 <Xenaris> yep every week
10:23:59 <Xenaris> this time
10:24:17 <Steven1> ah, well i couldnt do it every weekend. sad pandas.
10:27:33 <Mekkis> Woot
10:27:36 <Mekkis> I have internet again!
10:28:21 <steven> YAY!
10:28:24 <steven> INTERWEBS!
10:30:22 <Steven1> plus i roll like this
10:30:45 <Steven1> !roll 6#2d6+6
10:30:58 <Steven1> darn dice bot is out of the room
10:31:50 <Steven1> anyways... i dont roll well when i make a character
10:32:48 <Xenaris> well it would be appreciated even just the 1 game
10:32:53 <Xenaris> so we have time to recruit
10:33:52 <Xenaris> its mainly to train the DM to DM
10:33:54 <Xenaris> so he says
10:38:05 <Xenaris> https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/14226/kasual-kingmaker if you are interested
10:39:44 <Steven1> oh kingmaker, i've played it. not fair to people.
10:40:46 <Xenaris> how so?
10:41:03 <Steven1> I know the story.
10:41:19 <Xenaris> is it set in a forest?
10:41:52 <Steven1> some of it.
10:42:00 <Xenaris> ah shame then
10:48:04 <Xenaris> what does AP stand for?
10:49:06 <Steven1> adventure path
10:55:47 <Mekkis> Steven1, can I ask you about some PFS scenarios?
10:55:57 <Steven1> you can ask all ya want
10:56:54 <Mekkis> Returned to the Sky. Does it have the technologist BS in it?
11:02:24 <Steven1> It has the technic league in it.
11:04:19 <Mekkis> would a party without the technologist feat miss out on a bunch of stuff?
11:06:48 <Steven1> im not supposed to tell people stuff like that... however you can always go read the reviews if you want to know more details.
11:07:25 <Mekkis> seriously?
11:07:57 <Mekkis> I mean, so many people say "If you don't like dealing with the technologist rules, don't play the scenarios"
11:09:45 <Steven1> if you dont like technology stuff stay out of season 6.
11:09:59 <Steven1> if you dont like demon stuff stay out of season 5
11:10:02 <Mekkis> oh. great
11:10:18 <Mekkis> I thought only 30% or so of season 6 was tech stuff
11:11:01 <Steven1> if you want information that wont spoil things for the rest of the channel you can always message me privately... but if memory serves you jumped my shit because i spoiled pretty much the exact same things in this channel that you're asking me to do now.
11:14:59 <aidrocsid> winding path renegade or vanilla brawler?
11:15:05 <Brunius> yes
11:15:08 <Brunius`> Mekkis, this may interest you
11:15:11 <aidrocsid> lol
11:15:11 <Brunius`> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bpX8YvNg6Y
11:15:19 <aidrocsid> i mean they both look lovely
11:15:59 <aidrocsid> vanilla looks a little more versatile but burning people in grapples seems fun
11:16:07 <aidrocsid> also evasion
11:24:47 <Mekkis> Brunius`, possibly, but I don't have internet
11:25:04 <Brunius`> Ah, as evidenced by being on IRC
11:25:11 <Mekkis> Brunius`, you interested in a leatherworking course? There's a crowd down in Melbourne that does that kind of thing
11:25:20 <Brunius`> I think I saw something about that
11:25:39 <Mekkis> Ah, but I'm on wireless broadband - 2gb a month, then 6c/mb.
11:25:47 <Brunius`> oof
11:27:32 <Mekkis> so yeah... I'll get back to it when I get real internet
11:34:48 <Mekkis> So... Are you interested?
12:50:52 <aidrocsid1> ooohhhhh
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15:18:19 <Mekkis> I have about 35000gp for my summoner to spend. Any suggestions?
15:22:37 <Mekkis> Also, Steven, could you look over my sheet for correctness?
15:42:57 <Steven> that wouldnt be overly helpful, im rockin a migraine pretty hard today
15:43:56 <Mekkis> damn. Seems to happen quite a bit to you.
15:45:16 <Mekkis> !hp 1d10m2+9d8m3
15:45:17 <diebot> Mekkis, 84
15:50:30 <Steven> I get 2-3 migraines a week and usually a headache for the other days. I have a headache/migraine free day bout once every month and a half.
15:52:07 <Mekkis> what causes it?
16:02:26 <Mekkis> Yay for Paizo's website glitching again :P
16:03:10 <Mekkis> Try this: GM a module, say Godsmouth Heresy. Give the first player you report 2PP, and the other two players 4PP. See how much GM PP you get.
16:04:30 * Steven shrug
16:05:40 <Mekkis> (answer is 2)
16:13:34 <Steven> thats what it has always been.
16:14:08 <Mekkis> but it's wrong, right?
16:14:16 <Steven> yeah, and they know it is.
16:14:50 <Mekkis> Also, the title of the Sessions List pages is "paizo.com - Order Checkout"
16:15:04 <Steven> lol
16:15:33 <Steven> im still waiting for 180 bucks to be put on my credit.
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19:21:04 <Steven> !rand yes no
19:21:08 <Steven> !rng yes no
19:21:09 <diebot> Steven, yes
19:21:22 <Steven> !rng alot alittle
19:21:22 <diebot> Steven, alittle
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19:31:11 <Avatar> lolz grappling u + not letting go
19:37:36 <Avatar> sounds like you wanted that first one to be no
19:38:50 <Steven> its backstory for a character.
19:38:58 <Steven> did someones parents love each other.
19:39:00 <Steven> yes or no
19:39:28 <Steven> answer yes, and then the gm asked if my parents were deeply in love or just making due.
19:40:21 <Steven> so yeah, they love each other but not soul mates.
19:40:48 <aidrocsid> i pickjed vanilla brawler :D
19:41:01 <aidrocsid> +11 to grapple lol
19:50:46 <Mekkis> Steven, what was the outcome of the slashing grace with two weapons ruling?
19:51:01 <Steven> the what huh?
19:51:09 <Steven> i dont remember anything bout that.
20:09:02 <aidrocsid> avatar, why, feint?
20:12:04 <Avatar> Steven: I think knowing about whether technologist is almost a requirement is a pretty big exception
20:12:11 <Avatar> considering its contraversy
20:20:48 <aidrocsid> what's wrong with technologist
20:28:48 <Avatar> is slashing grace swashbuckler-only now
20:35:39 <Steven> mekkis i dont think two weapon fighting works with slashing grace anymore since it says it doesnt work with two weapon fighting or flurry of blows.
20:43:18 <Avatar> do you play PFS
20:44:43 <aidrocsid> nah just home games
20:50:38 <Mekkis> Okay
20:53:07 <Mekkis> Looks like Unaipon will be taking three levels of unchained rogue
20:53:43 <Mekkis> or is there another way of getting dex to damage
21:04:10 <Steven> agile weapon quality.
21:05:10 <Mekkis> hmmm
21:05:37 <Mekkis> The character in question is currently Inquisitor of Achaekek 5.
21:05:52 <Mekkis> TWFing with sawtooth sabres, naturally
21:17:48 <Mekkis> http://1v1d1e1lmiki1lgcvx32p49h8fe.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/bishop-canning.jpg
21:30:45 <s_gmusic> With a grapple that high, you should also invest heavily in Bluff and play "I'm not touching you~!" even though you totally are.
21:35:06 <Steven> i dont think agile can be added to sawtooth sabres.
21:38:08 <Steven> i dont remember if effortless lace is legal. its in the giant hunter's handbook
21:39:09 <Steven> nope not legal
21:39:46 <Steven> darn
21:40:03 <Steven> would have let you make sawtooth sabre's a light weapon for 2500g each.
21:41:56 <aidrocsid1> enlarge for longer range summoning/murderous commands/whatever or counterspell for more utility?
21:54:13 <Mekkis> my sabres are light weapons
22:45:51 <aidrocsid1> stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself
22:46:16 <aidrocsid1> it's either a +9 or +11 depending on my DM's interpertation of the Dan Bong
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23:26:33 <Avatar> PFS can be played at home
23:26:54 <Avatar> I'd argue it is best played at home
23:27:29 <Avatar> technologist is shit because it's a feat tax that makes your knowledge skills worthless, and it's only useful for certain season 6 scenarios
23:27:46 <Avatar> not having the feat makes your knowledge skills worthless, should I say
23:53:34 <aidrocsid> in our high-tech campaign (which we're playing tomorrow :D) the DM decided that our knowledge skills act as if we had technologist
23:53:49 <aidrocsid> it seems like the baseline pathfinder tech stuff is meant to be kind of not huge in most games
23:53:51 <aidrocsid> just a little here and ther
23:54:11 <aidrocsid> that'd make technologist good but when it's ubiquitous it's kind of unnecessary
23:54:31 <aidrocsid> if there's a feat that every single person in your group needs to have something's probably funky lol