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00:00:08 <President_Trump> https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/757200262285123584
00:00:52 <Tigger_> good too, the paranoid talk is always a desperate, losing proposition
00:00:54 <President_Trump> snoop dog is playing as well
00:01:09 <hopps> snoop dog is supporting hillary?
00:01:18 <Tigger_> I thought he was Snoop Lion now
00:02:33 <hopps> same thing
00:02:39 <hopps> thats his reggae name
00:04:15 <hopps> https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13007176_217069155337239_3423382882356505452_n.jpg?oh=9bdad38eeadafb52cafa525b3da3740e&oe=58337E0F
00:08:56 <President_Trump> hopps what did you think of trump's HISTORIC speech?
00:09:33 <hopps> when?
00:10:04 <President_Trump> at the convention
00:10:21 <hopps> was ok
00:12:29 <Tigger_> when does the Democrat convention start?
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00:15:30 <President_Trump> Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
00:15:30 <President_Trump> Wow, President Obama's brother, Malik, just announced that he is voting for me. Was probably treated badly by president-like everybody else!
00:16:56 <Tigger_> Barack doesn't like his brother as he acts too white
00:17:16 <President_Trump> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoIiovZXYAAW0rq.jpg
00:17:54 <Tigger_> http://nypost.com/2016/07/24/why-obamas-half-brother-says-hell-be-voting-for-donald-trump/
00:18:54 <Tigger_> in Obama's autobiography he said he was disappointed in his half-brother for not being interested in African things, he liked classical music instead
00:19:54 <Tigger_> Obama believes strongly in the institution of marriage — so strongly that he has at least three current wives, although press reports have put the number as high as 12.
00:19:58 <Tigger_> heh, good line
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00:31:16 <Warren`984> Tigger_ do you think most Gen Y's are just whingers
00:31:25 Nick: Warren`984 is now known as Warren1984
00:31:30 <hopps> yes
00:31:33 <hopps> you are gen y Warren1984
00:31:36 <hopps> you are a cry baby
00:31:45 <Tigger_> I don't know, I haven't really noticed it
00:31:49 <Warren1984> oh we can't afford housing because we are so selfish and want to travel the world
00:32:02 <Warren1984> try being on the D$P
00:32:08 <Warren1984> before complaining
00:32:41 <hopps> of course Tigger_
00:32:46 <hopps> that would require you to be involved in society
00:32:50 <hopps> and see things for yourself
00:32:53 <hopps> also to know people in gen Y
00:33:25 <Tigger_> they call them Millennials now, rather than Gen Y
00:33:36 <Warren1984> my generation is Gen Y
00:33:46 <Warren1984> millennials are the next gen
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00:34:26 <Tigger_> I suppose you could say the Bernie movement was about whinging about student loans
00:34:38 <Tigger_> hi Tigger_
00:34:41 <Tigger_> hi Tim-Sim
00:35:24 <President_Trump> hillary/kaine have offered free college education
00:39:22 <Tigger_> would've been a good announcement about a year ago
00:39:36 <Tim-Sim> Hi Tigger_
00:40:21 <Tigger_> at this point people have stopped listening to Crooked Hillary, it doesn't matter what she says
00:42:06 <President_Trump> she has appointed some chatter box vp who speaks spanish
00:42:51 <President_Trump> cnn said something along the lines of 'OH MY GOD you can see why hillary picked him!!! AND HE SPEAKS SPANISH!!!!!!!!!!'
00:43:05 <President_Trump> they were energized
00:46:09 <Tigger_> scripted
00:46:20 <Tigger_> it was a bad pick
00:47:04 <Tigger_> she needed someone minority with a lot of energy, to balance out her near death vibe
00:48:16 <President_Trump> she is doing so badly with white males i dont think she had a choice
00:48:26 <Tigger_> he's not going to change anything
00:48:46 <President_Trump> hes already forgotten
00:48:48 <President_Trump> hes a sissy
00:48:54 <President_Trump> https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-has-a-terrifying-to-do-list-for-his-first-100-days-as-president/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=20160724feed_100days
00:48:57 <Tigger_> I doubt if anyone had ever heard of him till the other day
00:48:59 <President_Trump> hillary is advertising for trump again
00:51:24 <Tigger_> she can forget about white males, that voting block is gone forever, she has to motivate the rest
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00:53:42 <President_Trump> he is going to spend all his time on hispanic media
00:53:48 <President_Trump> pandering
00:53:56 <Tigger_> http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-clinton-digital-trolling-20160506-snap-htmlstory.html
00:54:00 <Tigger_> Correct the Record, a super PAC coordinating with Clinton's campaign, is spending some $1 million to find and confront social media users who post unflattering messages about the Democratic front-runner.
00:54:22 <President_Trump> find and confront?
00:54:33 <Tigger_> she'll have a list
00:54:58 <President_Trump> what will they do put a camera in their face 'why are u saying mean things on twitter?'
00:55:34 <Tigger_> I imagine they'll hector them with facts
00:55:42 <Tigger_> The lack of engagement is one of Clinton’s bigger tactical vulnerabilities, particularly when compared with rivals like Donald Trump, whose viral social media attacks are legion, and Sen. Bernie Sanders, who is backed by a passionate army of media-savvy millennials.
00:57:23 <Tim-Sim> So who is in front?
00:58:05 <hopps> hillary
00:59:04 <President_Trump> trump has it stitched up now, just sit back and enjoy the ride tim
01:00:08 <Tigger_> the debates will be Hillary's undoing, so far most people haven't seen much of her, she almost never gives interviews, and the Democrat debates were hardly seen by anyone
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01:11:04 * hopps slaps Warren1984 around a bit with a large trout
01:11:12 <hopps> Tigger_ if hillary wins Warren1984 has to leave
01:11:57 <Tigger_> Warren1984 has more chance of winning the lotto by then, than Hillary does of winning
01:12:28 <hopps> ok well the bet is then
01:12:31 <hopps> 2 things
01:12:34 <hopps> i either get ops on here
01:12:35 <hopps> or Warren1984 has to go
01:13:18 <Tigger_> no, the outcome is: 1. Hillary wins, you get to stay, 2. Trump wins, you must leave irc forever
01:13:58 <hopps> i dont plan on staying anyway lol
01:14:03 <hopps> so either way it doesnt bother me
01:14:10 <hopps> but if you really want me to go
01:14:13 <hopps> you better make a deal
01:14:14 <Tigger_> what do you want ops for then?
01:14:19 <hopps> so i can stay lol
01:14:39 <President_Trump> hopps wants a rescue package
01:14:48 <President_Trump> like the greeks
01:15:10 <President_Trump> even he knows it is inevitable now
01:15:14 <hopps> #trance
01:15:20 <hopps> i dont care i dont like any of them
01:15:24 <hopps> means nothing to me
01:15:32 <hopps> i just want to lol at Warren1984
01:17:10 <Tigger_> how does it feel to be spectacularly wrong?
01:18:57 <hopps> as long as I can have ops Tigger_
01:19:02 <hopps> then its all good
01:19:29 <Tigger_> you're not getting ops, neither is Hillary
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01:21:30 <hopps> well then no deal
01:21:39 <Tigger_> there has never been a deal
01:21:47 <Tigger_> just your public declaration
01:21:57 <hopps> then you are scared Tigger_
01:22:01 <hopps> like everyone says
01:22:05 <hopps> scared to make a deal
01:23:02 <Tigger_> I don't need a deal, I already got everything I wanted in your voluntary, unilateral declaration that binds you to an outcome, but imposes nothing on me
01:24:12 <hopps> lol
01:24:56 <President_Trump> u need to offer a new side deal
01:25:46 <President_Trump> maybe u could download 'the art of the deal' and then get back to tigger
01:27:24 Quit: Warren1984 ([email protected]) Quit:
01:28:22 <hopps> lol
01:29:22 <hopps> warrens gone to bed
01:29:26 <hopps> to wank over hillary
01:29:47 <Tigger_> study the complete works of Trump, so you can recite them off by heart
01:30:43 <hopps> lol
01:30:45 <hopps> no thanks
01:30:54 <hopps> let me guess Tigger_ you have read everything he has ever written?
01:31:17 <Tigger_> I keep the works of Trump by my bedside, for guidance and inspiration
01:32:00 <hopps> lol
01:32:05 <hopps> you have never read a book of his
01:32:08 <hopps> maybe afew pages online
01:32:16 <hopps> just stop trying you old pedo
01:32:34 <President_Trump> maybe rather than leaving irc forever, a compromise could be reached where hopps's reads out a trump book of tiggers choice from start to finish and uploads it to youtube
01:32:45 <hopps> LOL
01:32:55 <Tigger_> that is a good idea
01:33:01 <hopps> and if hillary wins i get ops
01:33:08 <hopps> highest access second to you
01:33:13 <hopps> if not
01:33:15 <hopps> then no deal
01:33:20 <Tigger_> ok, it is a deal
01:33:28 <hopps> and lish is perma banned
01:33:35 <hopps> jen can stay because we love jen pussy
01:33:44 <hopps> and she's good for traffic
01:33:46 <hopps> and gook fuck
01:33:48 <hopps> gook fuck likes jen
01:33:49 <Tigger_> if Trump wins, you will only be allowed to stay if you read out The Art of the Deal on youtube
01:34:03 <Tigger_> the deal will not apply to lish or anyone else
01:34:11 <hopps> lish doesnt have to read it out
01:34:13 <hopps> but she is banned
01:34:15 <hopps> when i have my ops
01:34:19 <hopps> if not then no deal
01:34:29 <Tigger_> you can ban her, but I'll unban her again
01:34:38 <hopps> she is perma banned
01:34:40 <hopps> or no deal
01:34:43 <Tigger_> no deal
01:34:56 <hopps> i have a new microphone i will love to use it to read out art of the deal for you Tigger_
01:34:59 <hopps> ok no deal then
01:35:09 <President_Trump> you need to give verbal agreement and upload to youtube of the details hopps
01:35:11 <Tigger_> not just a microphone, must be on video
01:35:17 <Tigger_> good idea
01:35:25 <hopps> video ok no problem
01:35:26 <Tigger_> must be a youtube agreement to the terms
01:35:29 <hopps> jen is perma banned then
01:36:18 <Tigger_> you must make a youtube video listing your requirements if you win
01:36:48 <hopps> nah man
01:36:53 <hopps> not unless you agree to lish
01:36:53 <Tigger_> and make a public declaration that you will read out all of The Art of the Deal if you lose, in order not to be banished from irc
01:37:19 <Tigger_> make the video listing your requirements, then I will consider it
01:37:31 <President_Trump> and upload it chapter by chapter once completed, not a big huge thing
01:37:38 <hopps> nah it will be easy to do
01:37:46 <hopps> no Tigger_ im not wasting my time with that
01:37:49 <hopps> you either agree to deal here
01:37:50 <hopps> or not
01:37:55 <hopps> you are just stalling
01:38:23 <Tigger_> we need to get you on video so you don't try to wriggle out of it later, like you have been so far all of 2016
01:38:31 <hopps> im not at all
01:38:35 <hopps> i still stand by what i said
01:38:41 <hopps> but its not fair
01:38:45 <hopps> so i want something in return
01:38:50 <hopps> hence what ive been asking you all year
01:38:54 <hopps> you have my word here
01:38:58 <hopps> i am asking for a better deal
01:39:03 <Tigger_> I'll have your word on video
01:39:04 <hopps> if you dont want to give that
01:39:05 <hopps> thats fine
01:39:09 <hopps> ill just do other things
01:39:11 <hopps> no problem
01:39:20 <hopps> we havnt focused on warren and his family yet
01:39:21 <hopps> ;)
01:39:29 <Tigger_> if you won't do that then I know you are not truly committed
01:39:40 <hopps> im committed
01:39:46 <hopps> i dont need austnet to harass warren and his family
01:39:48 <hopps> lollllllllllllllll
01:39:55 <hopps> we already have the info
01:40:16 <hopps> you are not a very good friend Tigger_
01:40:19 <hopps> you should stick up for your bros
01:40:58 <Tigger_> like I said, make the video declaring your terms, then I'll probably agree
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01:41:26 <hopps> no Tigger_
01:41:31 <hopps> you either agree here like before
01:41:32 <hopps> or no
01:41:37 <hopps> there is no reason to do it
01:41:39 <hopps> u have my word here
01:41:43 <hopps> plivent
01:41:49 <hopps> i agree to leave austnet if trump wins
01:41:51 <Tigger_> nah I want it concrete
01:41:56 <hopps> in return i want ops if he loses
01:42:00 <hopps> and lish on perma ban
01:42:06 <hopps> you can choose to sacrifice
01:42:08 <hopps> either xm gook fuck
01:42:11 <hopps> or warren
01:42:12 <hopps> or jen
01:42:16 <hopps> yes or no?
01:42:18 <hopps> final offer
01:42:28 <Tigger_> if Trump wins, you have the choice of A. leaving forever, or B. reading The Art of the Deal on youtube
01:42:35 <hopps> nope
01:42:38 <hopps> now you are changing
01:43:01 <Tigger_> no, A. is just what you already declared, B. gives you the chance to stay, even if you lose
01:43:11 <hopps> i dont care to stay
01:43:11 <hopps> lol
01:43:16 <hopps> i got what i needed from here
01:43:57 <Tigger_> well it's option B that is the only thing that appeals to me about making a deal, otherwise there's no reason for me to make it
01:44:08 <hopps> so if I win?
01:44:08 <Tigger_> I already have option A
01:44:10 <hopps> what do I get?
01:44:17 <Tigger_> you get ops
01:44:33 <hopps> and lish on perma ban
01:44:46 <Tigger_> that'll be up to you
01:45:06 <hopps> the ops are fulltime
01:45:09 <Tigger_> but we have to get this deal on youtube before I'll agree to it
01:45:11 <hopps> they arnt u giving them for 1 or 2 days
01:45:17 <hopps> then just taking them away
01:47:33 <Tigger_> outline it all in your youtube video
01:51:11 <Tigger_> oh also in your video you must refer to Trump as "Lord Trump", and Hillary as "Crooked Hillary"
01:56:20 <President_Trump> https://i.sli.mg/oZ32Lg.png
01:57:39 <Tigger_> that's because Hillary has no supporters, at least not on the internet
01:58:04 <Tigger_> her supporters are either too old or too black to be on the internet
02:00:36 <President_Trump> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/24/13/368330DC00000578-3705524-image-a-2_1469364363235.jpg
02:01:12 <Tigger_> where are the terrorists going?
02:01:37 <hopps> to cheong park
02:04:01 <President_Trump> don jnr wants to run for mayor of new york
02:06:15 <Tigger_> DeBlasio is making such a mess of NY that he should win easily
02:32:52 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsi-55PadNE
02:32:57 <BlackDevil> Youtube: How the media is portraying Trump's convention speech (Jul 23, 2016) Length: 4:04 - Category: News & Politics - 12,210 views views - 212 likes (89.8%), 24 dislikes (10.2%)
02:41:39 <Tigger_> it's beyond worrying about, the mainstream media have been gunning hard for Trump for a year now, and to absolutely no effect, and that will never change
02:44:12 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z321l23aQE
02:44:17 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Syrian Girl: France Attacking Assad Forces, Not ISIS! (Jul 23, 2016) Length: 9:20 - Category: News & Politics - 23,949 views views - 650 likes (90.9%), 65 dislikes (9.1%)
02:44:17 <President_Trump> this slut is still whinging
02:48:21 <Tigger_> warren still hasn't gone to visit her yet
02:50:34 <Tigger_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uq2f-5qgXE
02:50:37 <doctor> I want plivent to stay cause I want his nudes
02:50:39 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Donald Trump on Ghostbusters,Indiana Jones,Rosie O'Donnell,Obama,Russell Brand (Dec 17, 2015) Length: 0:52 - Category: People & Blogs - 17,966 views views - 650 likes (90.5%), 68 dislikes (9.5%)
02:50:44 <doctor> I'm determined to get them
02:51:15 <Tigger_> that shouldn't be too hard
02:51:46 <President_Trump> trump right again
02:53:19 <Tigger_> I love the way that Ghostbusters has become a symbol of this election
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02:53:38 <lordzim> hopps: hey man
02:53:40 <lordzim> howve you been
02:54:34 <Tigger_> Dan.2 months ago
02:54:34 <Tigger_> Imagine how many more people would vote for Trump if his campaign was founded solely on "No More Hollywood Remakes"
02:56:33 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Ghk9Oeb7c
02:56:37 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Ted Cruz Faces Texas Delegation (Jul 21, 2016) Length: 33:09 - Category: News & Politics - 9,122 views views - 91 likes (66.4%), 46 dislikes (33.6%)
02:56:40 <President_Trump> this is where they started abusing him, i wanted to see that
02:56:51 <President_Trump> the day after he committed suicide on stage
02:58:23 <Tigger_> someone more interesting walked in
03:00:44 <Tigger_> I skipped through, he gets whiney
03:04:14 <President_Trump> everyone knows he was signalling to the never trumpers not to vote for trump
03:06:49 <lordzim> hopps: you still there
03:06:59 <Tigger_> he thought he'd get rewarded by the #nevertrump gop elites, but they're probably short on cash and influence themselves now
03:07:12 <President_Trump> hes busy trying to get a frankston milf
03:11:47 <President_Trump> he was trying to create his reagan moment, but reagan endorced teh candidate
03:12:04 <President_Trump> he just wants to lose so he can run in 4 years
03:14:15 <Tigger_> if he hadn't have been such a snake he could've set himself up to run in the future
03:23:14 <President_Trump> its best for his career if trump wins, if he loses (very unlikely) he will be partly to blame
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03:44:19 <Tigger_> One of the Vermonters kicked off the delegation for the Democratic National Convention is dropping his complaint.
03:44:19 <Tigger_> Chittenden County State Sen. Tim Ashe and Ken Dean both were replaced because the DNC demanded the 26-member delegation be equally split among men and women. The two men filed a formal complaint with the DNC Thursday, but now Ashe has changed his mind.
03:44:34 <Tigger_> http://www.wcax.com/story/32499767/2-vermont-dnc-delegates-excluded-due-to-gender
03:44:40 <Tigger_> hard to tell if it's satire or not
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09:48:31 <Warren1984> hi all
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10:10:39 <Warren1984> If you are greedy you won't get any where you won't to in life because you will always be worried about what you don't have in life.
10:12:28 Join: none ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
10:12:38 <none> morning
10:12:55 <Arbition> Mornin'
10:13:06 <none> :)
10:13:31 <none> wish they would get rid of the morons off here
10:13:58 <Arbition> There are morons everywhere, easier to just ignore them
10:14:19 <none> k
10:15:46 <Arbition> I'd really like it if I got a redundancy at work. Things are getting lame here
10:16:08 <none> no good
10:16:27 <Arbition> Would like to try go it on my own for a couple of months before I move onto another job
10:18:30 <none> I wish I could handle work
10:19:20 <Arbition> What about work can't you handle?
10:19:40 <Arbition> All customer facing stuff?
10:19:46 <none> I would get paranoid and not turn up
10:19:54 <Arbition> hm
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10:26:34 <Rant> o/
10:26:48 <Arbition> Guten Tag
10:27:32 <Rant> hello Arbition
10:27:58 <Rant> are you from germany?
10:28:26 <Arbition> no
10:28:30 <Rant> australia then
10:28:36 <Arbition> ayup
10:28:39 <Rant> cool
10:28:45 <Rant> lol i think i'm the only non australian here
10:29:25 <Arbition> from ca-na-da eh
10:29:32 <Rant> yep i am
10:29:59 <Rant> what time is it where you are?
10:30:09 <Rant> [20:31] here
10:30:09 <Arbition> 10:01
10:30:24 <Rant> thats like 14 hour diff. lol
10:30:39 <Arbition> wat
10:30:50 <Rant> time difference
10:31:09 <Arbition> Hmm guess it is
10:31:14 <Arbition> I was thinking in the other direction
10:31:33 <Arbition> I would have also expected more, but I guess you're in DST at the moment
10:31:44 <Arbition> You must be on the East side
10:31:50 <Rant> yes
10:31:56 <Rant> we are
10:32:00 <Rant> unfortunately
10:32:17 <Rant> i dont like that they mess with the time
10:32:58 <Arbition> I think the Business world should shift to using UTC time
10:33:10 <Arbition> Local time for retail store fronts only
10:33:57 <Arbition> Not like people work 9-5 exactly anymore
10:34:16 <Rant> i dont like when they change the time 2 times a year
10:34:25 <Rant> i think its rediculous
10:34:34 <Rant> i didn't vote for that
10:34:35 <Rant> LOL
10:37:09 <none> get Radeon r7 250 this friday
10:37:24 <none> 2 gig
10:37:54 <none> and a cross air mouse
10:38:04 <none> 8 buttons
10:38:19 <none> in time for wow demon hunters
10:38:24 <Arbition> I'll be considering an RX480 when they release non reference design coolers
10:39:00 <none> cool
10:39:25 <Arbition> where are you getting it from>
10:39:46 <none> 99$ ms
10:39:46 <none> msy
10:40:06 <Arbition> that'd be the 250X then right?
10:40:26 <none> the best r7 they have
10:40:36 <none> sapphire I think
10:41:16 <none> I have hd 5450 atm
10:41:26 <none> r7 is 5 x better
10:42:41 <none> clean heat sink out other nighht
10:42:51 <none> for cpu
10:43:21 <none> had to take fucken fan off
10:43:36 <none> was paranoid I would fuck it
10:44:39 <Warren1984> Arbition what do you do with your time?
10:44:49 <Warren1984> other than work, sleep etc?
10:45:03 <Arbition> Mostly waste it I guess
10:45:24 <Warren1984> yeah same with me
10:45:45 <Warren1984> I find when I create a daily todo list I don't know what to do with my time
10:45:57 <Warren1984> there are heaps of activities out there
10:46:05 <Warren1984> but I am inattentive to them
11:08:04 <none> this sucks I made a promise not to message somebody on fb and it's only person I want to talk to
11:11:58 <Warren1984> By definition, greed is immoral
11:11:58 <Warren1984> Greed is defined as a intense, selfish desire of something. So, one could assume from this dedinition that a greedy person is someone who is selfish, meaning that a greedy person lacks consideration for anything other then their own desires. Why is this morally bad? If one does not care about anything but themselves, it means they don't care about anything, including morals. A greedy
11:11:58 <Warren1984> person could be willing to kill, steal, or cheat to get what they want. Greed forces people to do immoral things, therefore, greed is immoral.
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11:58:51 <Tigger_> to take a strictly utilitarian view, culture is a waste of time. but I'd never agree with that
12:01:09 <Arbition> Actually it is not that it is a waste of time, but rather that it is rather arbitrary. Culture as it pertains to a social function clearly has use, in both encouraging interaction, and defining a group identity. In this way, it exists to help support future cooperation and thus assist in the perpetuation of the group/species
12:03:01 <Rant> https://youtu.be/Q4umqsx7aUY?t=630 LOL this is so funny
12:03:06 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Who Is Mike Pence? A Closer Look (Jul 18, 2016) Length: 11:08 - Category: Comedy - 541,016 views views - likes (93.4%), 499 dislikes (6.6%)
12:03:16 <Rant> its queued
12:05:11 <Tigger_> there are some forms of culture that I think could only exist as an arbitrary group bonding exercise, such as spectator sport, it is surely too boring to justify itself otherwise
12:05:29 <Arbition> Agreed
12:05:40 <Arbition> Same can be said of a lot of social signalling
12:05:48 <Warren1984> Tigger_ did you find the latest darren and damo funny?
12:06:31 <Tigger_> Warren1984, I never find darren and damo funny
12:11:02 <Tigger_> but I was primarily talking about medium to high culture, though sometimes low culture, such as 1970s exploitation films, can have a higher stature with the passing of time
12:17:04 <Arbition> Thinking about it, Dancing and Singing are also pretty arbitrary, but due to many many generations of doing it, I think we have evolved to enjoy it. In fact, a recent hypothesis suggests the development of singing as a group activity favoured features ultimately required for speech. Most notably, the ability to control airflow and have enough capacity to make sustained sounds
12:19:18 <Tigger_> language was probably the single most radical development that set us apart from the primates
12:20:32 <Tigger_> and I guess birds have better mastered language than primates have, so there's something to that hypothesis
12:20:39 <Arbition> Language is considered the one thing needed to enable us to expand our social group size, allowing even more group cooperation
12:21:53 <Tigger_> I once observed three crows coordinating together to flip a wheely bin lid open, two at the corners, one in the middle
12:22:34 <Tigger_> though how they communicated this plan I don't know
12:23:29 <Arbition> Perhaps by coincidence and through assumed understanding
12:23:38 <Arbition> if they saw eachother attempt to probe it
12:23:47 <Arbition> then move into the right position as they tried stuff out
12:24:28 <Tigger_> they were pretty efficient about it, no trial and error, so it was obvious they'd done it before
12:26:10 <Warren1984> Maybe high income does equal class, but it's not always moral... but morals don't matter to many people. What is even the point of being a good behaving person?
12:26:33 <Arbition> Such comes the expression "Nice guys come last"
12:26:45 <Arbition> Notions of fairness are interesting
12:27:39 <Arbition> Sort of like "Equal Opportunity" vs "Equal Outcome"
12:27:51 <Tigger_> not nice people tend to finish last, the underclass are not full of people who are there because they were too nice
12:28:37 <Arbition> That may be, though with what Warren1984 said, that is the conclusion people arrive at
12:30:27 <Warren1984> why not become a drug dealer/distributor then you will get a high wage and be upper class
12:31:49 <Tigger_> actually most people who deal drugs are extremely poor
12:32:05 <Tigger_> even higher up the chain there doesn't seem to be a lot of money
12:32:33 <Warren1984> every man for himself
12:34:35 <Tigger_> there was a study that showed the average street level drug dealer made less than if they worked at McDonalds, but the promise of rising in the ranks to where the big money was motivated them to stay in the drug dealing business
12:34:52 <Tigger_> though ironically McDonalds has very good internal career paths
12:35:18 <Arbition> I'd agree that sttreet dealers would get bugger all, but if you're doing the zone transfer stuff (middleman stuff), that is warehousing/import/export I imagine there is a lot. So I don't know how far up you mean
12:36:52 <Tigger_> but then expenses increase too, there are a lot of people to be paid off, a lot of expensive problems arise
12:42:18 <Tigger_> people in the illicit drug trade who retire to an affluent, care free life, must be vanishingly few
13:00:01 <Warren1984> the only thing that you can do is be ORGANIZED
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13:04:00 <Tigger_> I suppose I should start cooking my meal of the day
13:30:51 <Tigger_> I have turned the house upside down looking for my permanent marking pens, I have several of them, but nowhere to be found
13:30:57 <Tigger_> I guess I'll have to buy another
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13:36:13 <Warren1984> clip clop stole them
13:40:31 <Tigger_> he probably did, to draw a map of where the best grass patches are
14:07:48 <Warren1984> feeling kind of depressed
14:07:56 <Warren1984> no meaning/purpose to life
14:16:26 <Arbition> none was complaining of the same thing, though not as articulately
14:16:51 <Arbition> Many philosophers have struggled with the issue
14:17:30 <Arbition> Nietzche seems to have been particularly troubled, such that he eventually decided that the ubermensch was an eventual goal for all humanity
14:18:11 <Arbition> A step further than my statement that evolution gives only the purpose of reproduction and the assisting in the propogation of the species
14:18:25 <Warren1984> are you talking to me Arbition?
14:18:28 <Warren1984> http://www.philforhumanity.com/Greed_is_Good_and_Bad.html
14:18:30 <Arbition> Yes
14:19:24 <Arbition> yep as usual nothing is black and white
14:19:43 <Warren1984> Third and finally, greed sometimes drives people to do unethical, immoral, and illegal things in the pursuit of more money.
14:19:43 <Warren1984> Greed is typically considered the accumulation of wealth for personal satisfaction. It has no useful purpose except to become rich and to continue getting more wealthy. It is a strong desire in each and every one of us that is extremely difficult to overcome. Only through continuously contributing and donating to society can we find true rewards that are far greater than the illusion
14:19:44 <Warren1984> that greed provides.
14:21:04 <Arbition> I personally think the most important statement on that page is "In other words, it is alright to retire from work but do not retire from society."
14:21:30 <Warren1984> Unfortunately most people probably do
14:21:43 <Warren1984> like doctors for example
14:21:57 <Warren1984> studied and worked so hard through-out their lives
14:22:08 <Warren1984> want a comfortable retirement
14:26:24 <Tigger_> I found a black marking pen
14:27:43 <Warren1984> did clip clop pick it up with his mouth and write Klip Klop Klan on his barn wall?
14:28:00 <Tigger_> it wasn't the pen I was looking for, but it works
14:28:10 <Warren1984> did clip clop pick it up with his mouth and write Klip Klop Klan on his barn wall?
14:28:16 <Tigger_> not that I can see
14:31:06 <Tigger_> I will use the black marking pen to write the names of spices onto sticky labels, which will then be placed on my glass spice jars
14:33:57 <Tigger_> what is society these days anyway? there used to be men's clubs, but you never hear about them now
14:36:00 <Warren1984> get one of those electronic label makers Tigger_
14:36:15 <Tigger_> show me one?
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15:07:20 <Warren1984> http://www.inkman.com.au/products/31061/brother-PT1010-blue-ptouch-labeller?gclid=Cj0KEQjwztG8BRCJgseTvZLctr8BEiQAA_kBDx_DRb9Er63AOu7J2lhdM_mvkM_V3KhTilPbaJunaM4aAt9k8P8HAQ
15:07:32 <Warren1984> you can get better one's in coles and woolworths
15:07:51 <Tigger_> I only have about 10 jars to do though
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15:26:33 <Warren1984> A person earning $80,000 who cannot afford a home pays taxes to support an aged pensioner in a $3 million family home . That home eventually passes tax free to the descendants. Hardly fair.
15:27:55 <Tigger_> why isn't it fair?
15:28:30 <Tigger_> the number of $3 million homes inhabited by old age pensioners must be very small, so why worry?
15:29:32 <Tigger_> “This planet is much larger than Jupiter or Saturn, and its ring system is roughly 200 times larger than Saturn’s rings are today,” said co-author Mamajek, professor of physics and astronomy at the University of Rochester. “You could think of it as kind of a super Saturn.”
15:29:37 <Tigger_> http://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/gigantic-ring-system-around-j1407b/
15:59:31 <Tigger_> A Syrian refugee wielding a machete has killed a pregnant woman and injured a man and another woman in Germany before being arrested by police after he was run over by a man driving a BMW.
15:59:31 <Tigger_> Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3705823/Machete-wielding-attacker-kills-woman-injures-two-new-German-outrage.html#ixzz4FOi5Tvzg
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16:51:04 <DaylightSlavingTime> Kim Dotcom ‏@KimDotcom 2h2 hours ago
16:51:04 <DaylightSlavingTime> Kim Dotcom Retweeted Paul Manafort
16:51:04 <DaylightSlavingTime> What if HC email server was hacked? What if all deleted HC emails are released on October 26th? Happy Birthday?
16:59:11 <Arbition> What does HC stand for
17:02:51 <DaylightSlavingTime> Hillary
17:03:26 <Arbition> ah figures
17:03:36 <Arbition> I was thinking hillary but for some reason didn't make the name connection
17:04:12 <DaylightSlavingTime> because you're used to thinking of her as CH - Crooked Hillary, rather than HC - Hillary Clinton
17:05:45 <DaylightSlavingTime> but Kim Dotcom is likely someone who knows what's going down in the blackhat world, so could be interesting
17:08:19 <Arbition> well no not really because of that, and also it was a retweet so its not coming from him
17:08:50 <Arbition> think mostly because leaked deleted emails
17:09:13 <Arbition> but I just hadn't seen the acronym used
17:16:40 <Arbition> heh on the same thread Kim Dotcom ‏@KimDotcom 2h2 hours ago
17:16:40 <Arbition> Just to be clear. I have nothing to do with hacking of DNC, Clinton Foundation, Clinton financial data or Clinton private email servers.
17:18:45 <DaylightSlavingTime> yeah I don't think he would be doing it himself, though he used to when he was younger, but I imagine he stays in contact with his old friends
17:27:52 <Arbition> damn he is fat though
17:28:26 <DaylightSlavingTime> the curse of the extrovert
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18:26:07 <none> lols
18:26:42 <none> how's it going
18:27:32 <none> cooking. chips
18:27:37 <none> in oven
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20:42:12 <Warren1984> hey Ethanol
20:42:17 <Ethanol> hello
20:42:31 <Warren1984> DaylightSlavingTime when Putin finds out who shot down metrojet
20:42:53 <Warren1984> the person will be either arrested or killed by Putin's orders
20:43:06 <Warren1984> if a government is involved it could start a war
20:43:32 <Warren1984> unless the country is smart enough to hand over those government officals over to the Russian's
20:44:01 <Warren1984> more likely arrested as an arrested person is more valuable than a dead person
20:44:40 <Warren1984> the FSB would also want to interrogate those responsible while holding them in maximum Russian prison
20:45:58 <xm> if someone is diagnosed as 'Severe Arthritis' does that entitle them to D$P?
20:49:48 <xm> another mass shooting
20:51:24 <xm> http://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/florida-mass-shooting-at-club-blu-nightclub/news-story/434278b3253a1939c9caf9ff2ac9a596
20:52:14 <Arbition> When you said that at first I wasn't sure if you meant a terrorist attack or just another day in the US
20:52:38 <Arbition> the US has really quite serious issues with shootings
20:52:39 <Ethanol> these one appears to be a case of beta-male rage
20:52:46 <Ethanol> this*
20:53:13 <Arbition> "Tell me why?" "I don't like Mondays"
20:53:48 <Arbition> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kobdb37Cwc
20:53:52 <BlackDevil> Youtube: The Boomtown Rats - I Don't Like Mondays (Feb 17, 2011) Length: - Category: Music - 4,813,900 views views - likes (97.3%), 671 dislikes (2.7%)
20:53:52 <Ethanol> xm: yes. In fact musculo-skeletal medical conditions (which includes arthritis) account for over one quarter of D$P claims.
20:54:18 <Ethanol> http://www.dss.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/01_2014/dsp_characteristics_report_2013_final.pdf
20:55:32 <Ethanol> Only second to psychological/psychiatric medical conditions (30%)
20:55:53 <xm> interesting thanks
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20:58:50 <hmmmm> hi
20:59:34 <Arbition> Jowpa
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20:59:45 <Arbition> sounds like it could be a greeting right
21:00:00 <hmmmm> lol
21:00:49 <Warren1984> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/wtf/the-queensland-man-who-believes-hes-jesus-seriously/news-story/ea7abfc3680912eae7666392e3768be4
21:01:04 <Warren1984> <xm> if someone is diagnosed as 'Severe Arthritis' does that entitle them to D$P? <- no
21:01:09 <Ethanol> oh no, not that guy again
21:01:44 <Ethanol> his wife claims to be Mary Magdalene
21:01:57 <Warren1984> do you think he is delusional
21:02:02 <Warren1984> schizophrenic perhaps
21:02:30 <Ethanol> no, just a very cunning conman
21:03:27 <Arbition> well he did just get into the news again apparently. Article dated July 25, 2016 7:13pm
21:03:49 <Warren1984> ask him for a miricale
21:04:02 <DaylightSlavingTime> Miller has two sons, Caleb and Tristan, from a marriage which ended in 1997. “Soon after, I began to remember the details of my life on earth and in the spirit world for the past 2000 years.”
21:04:21 <DaylightSlavingTime> so Barbara Theiring's "Jesus the Man" was right, Jesus was a divorcee
21:04:27 <hmmmm> fb is weird
21:04:38 <Warren1984> get a voice recorder and ask him a question like a miracle
21:04:51 <Warren1984> then come back later and tell him he is full of shit
21:04:56 <Arbition> "Give me my god damn wine"
21:05:07 <hmmmm> so bored
21:06:17 <hmmmm> playing gran turismo 6
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21:06:35 <DaylightSlavingTime> For a wandering prophet, JC has his business tight, with an ABN and ACN, as well as a ‘Trading Address’ in Kingaroy, QLD, where he lives. There is also an intellectual property disclaimer
21:06:46 <hmmmm> got five day in row login bonus
21:06:52 <Ethanol> yep
21:06:55 <DaylightSlavingTime> he could claim back royalties of every copy of the New Testment ever printed
21:07:15 <hmmmm> trump lollllllllssss
21:07:18 <President_Trump> CROOKED HILLARY CLINTON
21:07:39 <DaylightSlavingTime> great start to the week for Crooked Hillary
21:08:17 <DaylightSlavingTime> I'm now 49% convinced that Bernie was in on a big con job right from the start
21:08:36 <President_Trump> bernie says there's not problem
21:08:37 <Ethanol> Why couldn't he just claim to be the legitimate successor to St Peter? Sedevacantists are infinitesimally more interesting than nutters who claim to be reincarnation of religious figures.
21:08:39 <President_Trump> *no
21:09:04 <hmmmm> I nearly got 1 million to buy cars
21:09:24 <hmmmm> PS3 is playing itself
21:09:35 <DaylightSlavingTime> for him to handwave the email issues away at the first Democrat debate, then he himself turns out to be the subject of leaked emails, to deny him the nomination, and he says nothing, after $220 million donated to him, he shrugs his shoulders
21:10:06 <hmmmm> takes at the moment 6 minutes to get 84000 $
21:10:18 <Arbition> Sounds like creativity, C2H5OH
21:10:23 <hmmmm> oops 8
21:10:37 <DaylightSlavingTime> the Kingaroy Jesus could call his site www.stuffIforgottosayfirsttime.com
21:11:13 <hmmmm> lol
21:11:26 <Warren1984> tell him you are a Jew
21:11:33 <Warren1984> and that you want to kill him
21:12:04 <Arbition> Tell him your name is Pilate, but despite your protestations, the Government wants you dead
21:12:29 <Warren1984> Soon after, I began to remember the details of my life on earth and in the spirit world for the past 2000 years.” <- was that when you were high on LSD?
21:13:18 <Arbition> The idea was god given! I would tell people I am Jesus and make loads of money! I couldn't possibly have thought of it myself, I was really touched by the insight of the almighty
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21:15:36 <DaylightSlavingTime> Jesus has a rather Web 1.0 site: https://www.divinetruth.com/www/en/html/index.htm#welcome.htm
21:15:40 <xm> it always amazes me how intelligent people can fall for cults. but then i remind myself how i 'trick myself' into psychosis
21:16:53 <DaylightSlavingTime> it is usually only intelligent people that do, cults have very few low IQ people
21:17:39 <xm> you can force patterns and appreciate complicated ideas
21:19:39 <DaylightSlavingTime> Gurdjieff's crazy cult probably didn't have a single member under 120 IQ
21:19:50 <Arbition> Intelligent people are best at massaging data
21:25:27 <DaylightSlavingTime> I think it's a combination of Five Factor Openness to Experience, and an ability to comprehend complex ideas, many of which can not be empirically verified or disproven
21:25:40 <Warren1984> <xm> if someone is diagnosed as 'Severe Arthritis' does that entitle them to D$P? -> xm no
21:25:42 <xm> id say reformed/calvinists are samrter than arminians too
21:25:51 <President_Trump> http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-steals-lead-from-clinton-for-first-time-in-polls-history/article/2597534
21:26:30 <DaylightSlavingTime> and the debates haven't even started yet
21:27:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> she's only had to deal with softball debates with gentleman Bernie
21:27:04 <President_Trump> http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/index.html
21:27:07 <President_Trump> it's over folks!
21:27:41 <DaylightSlavingTime> also the Bernie reddit has become high energy again, but baying for Hillary's blood
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21:30:05 <DaylightSlavingTime> I wonder if future email leaks will reveal that Bernie was complicit in it, in some fashion
21:31:01 <President_Trump> an email will come out on what was promised to bernie for his endorcement
21:33:32 <DaylightSlavingTime> that night he said "nobody cares about the damned emails", my gut instinct was that he'd already been bought out, but afterwards I just put it down to him being a bit of an old duffer and wanting to stick to the high ground
21:34:08 <President_Trump> i think he was just trying to look like a good democrat
21:34:21 <President_Trump> at that stage there was no need to have bribed him with anything
21:36:32 <DaylightSlavingTime> I guess not, but he likely took a bribe since
21:42:51 <DaylightSlavingTime> A majority (52%) now say Trump is running for president for the good of the country rather than personal gain, just 44% say the same about Clinton.
21:43:03 <DaylightSlavingTime> they could even find one person who believes that?
21:51:20 <President_Trump> Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 12h12 hours ago
21:51:21 <President_Trump> Watched Crooked Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine on 60 Minutes. No way they are going to fix America's problems. ISIS & all others laughing!
21:51:36 <DaylightSlavingTime> I saw that one, Trump has been on fire
21:52:00 <President_Trump> his biggest risk is not preparing well enough for the debates
21:52:17 <President_Trump> because hillary will be spending every waking moment rehearsing
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21:53:36 <DaylightSlavingTime> I think it'll be easier for him than the Republican debates, he was tag teamed by people of much higher skill than Hillary
21:55:02 <President_Trump> that was just macho yelling and screaming he will have to be easier on her with his tone
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21:56:24 <Marttin> morning
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21:56:29 <Marttin> OH SHIT
21:56:39 <Marttin> I had a surprise for brett
21:56:44 <DaylightSlavingTime> for all Lyin' Ted's faults, he's an excellent debater, and Trump held his own against him then. Hillary won't be much of a challenge
21:56:54 <DaylightSlavingTime> what surprise?
21:58:03 <Marttin> something smeally
22:04:38 <Marttin> keshan posted a pic of an australia flag the 28 september 2013 Warren1984
22:11:25 <Warren1984> when did she post it
22:20:26 <xm> Warren1984: when a stinker clogs a toilet
22:20:30 <xm> you no longer need a plunger
22:20:31 <xm> http://interestingengineering.com/korean-inventor-creates-revolutionary-sanitary-toilet-unclogging-tool/
22:21:57 <xm> https://scontent.fper2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13680036_10210007981744085_543510477935792644_o.jpg
22:23:44 <DaylightSlavingTime> leftwing SF seems to be primarily about interspecies sex
22:33:40 <Arbition> Papers, Please is a strangely fun game\
22:33:52 <xm> Ozone loves that game
22:35:02 <DaylightSlavingTime> I have it, but haven't gotten around to playing it yet
22:35:40 <Warren1984> xm's favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tIgN7eICn4
22:35:45 <BlackDevil> Youtube: DJ Tiesto - Adagio For Strings (Mar 25, 2008) Length: 7:23 - Category: Music - 16,738,262 views views - 52,188 likes (95.7%), 2,327 dislikes (4.3%)
22:36:06 <Warren1984> also nigger's favourite song
22:36:28 <xm> i was listening to it the other day, Warren1984
22:37:21 <xm> Warren1984: how do you think tigger_ listens to music on his Breville vinyl player when clippy is stomping around?
22:37:42 <DaylightSlavingTime> I played DJ Tiesto on my Clip+ tonight during my walk
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22:48:40 <hmmmm> hi
22:48:58 <DaylightSlavingTime> hi hmmmm
22:49:24 <hmmmm> hey
22:49:39 <hmmmm> tattoos cause cancer
22:49:54 <hmmmm> or certain color inks
22:50:00 <DaylightSlavingTime> they do? that's good news
22:50:12 <Warren1984> did the Jews create Communism?
22:50:34 <hmmmm> they did study it was on news
22:51:14 <DaylightSlavingTime> there were theories of communism going back thousands of years ago, but modern communist ideas emerged out of Revolutionary France
22:51:33 <Warren1984> what is wrong with communism anyway?
22:51:41 <DaylightSlavingTime> it doesn't work
22:52:02 <Warren1984> https://youtu.be/cXMqpH2eCjQ?t=51
22:52:05 <Warren1984> is that true
22:52:06 <BlackDevil> Youtube: God's Chosen People invented Communism (Mar 17, 2013) Length: 6:46 - Category: Nonprofits & Activism - 350 views views - 10 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
22:52:41 <DaylightSlavingTime> when did communism ever work?
22:53:30 <Warren1984> when did capitalism ever work
22:53:45 <DaylightSlavingTime> capitalism works every single day
22:54:01 <Warren1984> capitalism replaces babies with material possessions
22:54:09 <Warren1984> that get out of date extremely quickly
22:54:37 <Warren1984> why do the baby boomers need super?
22:54:47 <Warren1984> just encourage gen Y to have more babies
22:55:07 <Warren1984> no but having the latest this or that is more important
22:55:56 <DaylightSlavingTime> the latest GT1080 graphics card
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22:56:52 <Warren1984> yeah and that will be out of date in 3 years
22:57:07 <Warren1984> as with every other material possession
22:57:22 <Warren1984> not saying we don't need material possessions
22:57:31 <Warren1984> just saying that there are many we don't need
22:58:02 <IvanTheBastard> Super is good, it reduces the burden of people needing pension. but what ive noticed is alot of people on super get pension as well
22:58:05 <DaylightSlavingTime> you should sell your graphics card
22:58:28 <IvanTheBastard> in a perfect world you'd have pension funds + individual funded super
22:58:52 <IvanTheBastard> right now australias retarded system is based entirely on placing the burden of the pension debt onto the up and coming tax payers
22:59:31 <DaylightSlavingTime> I am against super, as it creates massive funds that can then buy influence in govt to jerry-rig the entire economy just to keep their stock bubbles going, just paying a pension would've been a lot safer
22:59:52 <xm> ' The rich stay rich by living like they're poor, and the poor stay poor by living like they're rich. '
23:01:14 <IvanTheBastard> but you have to take issue with pension coming straight from the gov coffers unfunded
23:01:28 <IvanTheBastard> because then you're placing a perpetual burden on following generations
23:02:39 <DaylightSlavingTime> the way the old age pension system was established in Australia in the 1940s, was as a separate dept that would manage incoming tax contributions and outgoings, but over the decades successive govts eventually just rolled this into general revenue, and then raided it
23:03:09 <DaylightSlavingTime> the money should be there, but it was effectively stolen
23:03:46 <xm> https://www.wireless1.com.au/sandisk-ixpand-64gb-flash-drive-for-iphone-and-ipad-lightning-to-usb
23:04:07 <xm> i didnt know you could do that with iOS
23:04:59 <xm> oh it's basically like an intermediate computer
23:05:11 <DaylightSlavingTime> how does the ipad/iphone access it?
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23:05:42 <richcunt> lolllllllll @ Ethanol the weak loser
23:05:45 <IvanTheBastard> but with funds they will at least invest back into the ecnomies or infrastructure to generate returns
23:05:46 <xm> there is a little lightning port thing in the middle that can be moved out
23:05:48 <richcunt> that's the 1st thought anyone has
23:05:49 <xm> WOW
23:05:52 <richcunt> when comin on
23:05:52 <xm> SKIPS IS BACJK!@!!
23:05:55 <richcunt> they look at Ethanol
23:05:57 <richcunt> and they think
23:05:58 <richcunt> fuckkkkkkkk
23:05:59 <IvanTheBastard> which would actually also make jobs for the next gen too
23:06:00 <xm> we really do miss you skips
23:06:03 <richcunt> hey xm
23:06:06 <richcunt> asian faggot
23:06:09 <xm> lol
23:06:09 <DaylightSlavingTime> oh also the reason why Keating set up Australia's superannuation system was as a massive cash injection into failing unions, initially it was mandatory
23:06:15 <richcunt> whers Tigger
23:06:18 <xm> how have you been skips?
23:06:21 <xm> where have you been rather
23:06:22 <richcunt> drunk
23:06:25 <richcunt> usual
23:06:27 <richcunt> u?
23:06:30 <xm> well, at least you are alive
23:06:35 <richcunt> why wouldnt i be?
23:06:41 <xm> im sober
23:06:43 <DaylightSlavingTime> celebrating a big gambling win?
23:06:53 <xm> i havent seen you online for a while so was concerned
23:07:05 <richcunt> Tigger_ talk to me directly im right here
23:07:15 <DaylightSlavingTime> hello skip
23:07:19 <richcunt> wheres plivent and his drug dealing convent
23:07:33 <richcunt> that faggot is back in jail before no time
23:07:46 <richcunt> know wat im sayin
23:07:50 <richcunt> hahahahah
23:07:55 <richcunt> fulll time 'youth worker' hahaha
23:07:59 <DaylightSlavingTime> a shame he's not here now for you to say that to him
23:08:02 <richcunt> listen alrite
23:08:06 <IvanTheBastard> how did the unions get their hands on super? did they used to manage it or something?
23:08:09 <richcunt> i need to inform u i will be here on christmas day
23:08:13 <richcunt> to inform u of my sick winnings
23:08:14 <richcunt> bbl
23:08:15 <richcunt> adious
23:08:18 Quit: richcunt ([email protected]) Quit:
23:08:25 <DaylightSlavingTime> Ivan, "industry funds", which are union owned
23:08:57 <IvanTheBastard> ahh yeah ok, so they would charge 'admin' fees to skim from the top
23:09:13 <IvanTheBastard> like the current funds do (albeit if you dont trust them you can move the cash to somewhere else or self manage;
23:09:19 <DaylightSlavingTime> there's a lot of corruption with them too, such as one union fund in VIC invested in wind farms, so the VIC govt mandated clean energy to prop up the union's stupid investment
23:10:38 <IvanTheBastard> i would never put my money with any non idenpendant body
23:10:51 <IvanTheBastard> independant?
23:11:50 <IvanTheBastard> i think with the amount of scrutiny on them these days, and the amount of variety, and the visibility to your gains via optional investment plans makes it fairly competetive and harder for people to get scammed if they have half a brain
23:13:01 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HlhpNnuKLI
23:13:03 <Arbition> Self management is quite arduous though
23:13:05 <BlackDevil> Youtube: What if Hitler Wasn't Anti-Semitic? (Jan 8, 2014) Length: 6:46 - Category: Education - 525,460 views views - 6,898 likes (86.4%), 1,082 dislikes (13.6%)
23:13:19 <Arbition> you get all the audits because otherwise it'd be too easy to misappropriate your super
23:15:33 <IvanTheBastard> yeah they make it tough so every retard doesnt do it
23:15:42 <IvanTheBastard> still i'd consider it abit later in life
23:16:01 <IvanTheBastard> i got some other ideas for the rest of my 30s regarding cash generation
23:16:13 <IvanTheBastard> needa build up that portfolio whilst im young so i can retire young nigga
23:16:40 <DaylightSlavingTime> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uq2f-5qgXE
23:16:44 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Donald Trump on Ghostbusters,Indiana Jones,Rosie O'Donnell,Obama,Russell Brand (Dec 17, 2015) Length: 0:52 - Category: People & Blogs - 18,533 views views - 677 likes (90.8%), 69 dislikes (9.2%)
23:26:12 <xm> the synology has a widget on the www thin client to stream audio, including FLAC@
23:26:15 <xm> !
23:27:58 <Warren1984> Arbition do you think the European's were moved evolved than other races and we lost our tribes
23:28:18 <Warren1984> for example the ENTJ is the tribal leader
23:28:35 <Warren1984> but white people don't have a tribal leader
23:29:05 <Warren1984> unless of course you think Putin is a tribal leader
23:29:21 <Warren1984> because he is a white leader that hates other white leaders
23:29:36 <Warren1984> but all other white leaders kind of get along
23:32:44 <DaylightSlavingTime> Trump gets along with Putin
23:34:13 <xm> who is more alpha?
23:34:34 <Warren1984> depends on how you define Alpha
23:34:44 <Warren1984> Putin is def more intelligent than Trump
23:35:17 <DaylightSlavingTime> Trump's IQ is 156, what is Putin's?
23:35:24 <Warren1984> I doubt that
23:35:35 <Warren1984> trump is very extroverted
23:36:53 <DaylightSlavingTime> not all extroverts are stupid
23:36:59 <xm> who is the person with the highest IQ on Austnet, Warren1984 ?
23:37:42 <Warren1984> good question
23:37:54 <Warren1984> because it's hard to be unbias
23:38:03 <xm> print out #pd logs to show Dr Perica
23:38:04 <Warren1984> maybe Arbition
23:38:07 <xm> let him decide
23:38:26 <xm> but change all the nicks to random ones
23:38:37 <Warren1984> lol xm
23:38:43 <xm> because he will see you as Warren1984 and know it's you. he already knows you are the smartest patient
23:38:48 <xm> it will bias him
23:39:01 <Warren1984> I think Arbition is probably the one with the highest IQ on here
23:39:09 <Warren1984> but I could be wrong
23:39:37 <Warren1984> tigger is the one who uses the most complicated words
23:39:54 <Warren1984> words I have never seen or heard
23:39:59 <xm> lol
23:40:47 <xm> Warren1984: you need to expand your vocabulary. everyday i will guide you. ask you to say a word like stinker but cant be stinker
23:40:50 <xm> capiche?
23:41:01 <DaylightSlavingTime> which words did I use?
23:41:49 <xm> there is always jargon you cant avoid when going beyond mediocre intellectual conversations
23:44:52 <DaylightSlavingTime> though I almost never use jargon
23:45:02 <DaylightSlavingTime> I go out of my way not to if I can
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