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02:16 <Warren1984> good idea President_Trump
03:27 <President_Trump> This cutting-edge V-NAND-based NVMe SSD outperforms SATA SSDs by over 4.5 times in sequential read and by over 2.5 times in sequential write, making it the perfect solution for professionals using high-end PCs and workstations.
03:30 <President_Trump> i badly need this for irc
04:32 <Warren1984> Tigger_'s favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUXZThUx3Tc
04:36 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Gordon Lightfoot - If You Could Read My Mind (lyrics on screen) HQ Audio (Apr 8, 2013) Length: 3:47 - Category: Music - 67,581 views views - 439 likes (97.6%), 11 dislikes (2.4%)
05:49 <Tigger_> President_Trump has been stuck down with OCD
05:55 <Tigger_> struck
06:41 <Warren1984> what do you mean?
07:47 <Tigger_> obsessing over SSDs
08:02 <President_Trump> i need 2gb/s
10:01 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UcmM5-wfks
10:05 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Windows 10 boot time, MSI GE72 6QF, Samsung SSD 950 Pro (Feb 26, 2016) Length: 0:58 - Category: Science & Technology - 689 views views - 6 likes (100%), 0 dislikes (0%)
11:07 <Tigger_> about 10 or 11 seconds
14:22 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you like this song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUXZThUx3Tc
14:27 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Gordon Lightfoot - If You Could Read My Mind (lyrics on screen) HQ Audio (Apr 8, 2013) Length: 3:47 - Category: Music - 67,581 views views - 439 likes (97.6%), 11 dislikes (2.4%)
14:31 <Tigger_> there still aren't a lot of desktop motherboards that support M.2, it might take another year before it's commonplac
15:08 <xm> lyrics are on screen so Clip Clop can sing along
15:32 <xm> Clip Clop is using mental telepathy to get Tigger_ to give him some sugar cubes
15:50 <Warren1984> lol xm
15:54 <President_Trump> 256gb 950 pro is the only choice im afraid
17:13 <Tigger_> 256Gb is fine for an OS drive
18:03 <Tim-Sim> I got a Samsung 850 EVO, works pretty good
18:19 <Tigger_> what size?
19:11 <Tim-Sim> 500gb
19:17 <Tigger_> very nice
19:20 <Tigger_> how much was that?
19:24 <President_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllll @ 850 EVO
20:07 <Tim-Sim> That is for my laptop, on the desktop I have two WD blacks drives in raid 0. Works ok too
20:39 <Tigger_> I have a WD Black for this machine as the data drive
20:39 <President_Trump> why a new laptop so u can get a 950 pro Tim-Sim
20:45 <President_Trump> why=buy
21:01 <President_Trump> now we know what you were buying at cheong park
21:09 <Tigger_> in two years the price of WD Blacks hasn't even come down $1
26:37 <President_Trump> that is what my crashed on was
26:49 <President_Trump> windows take about 5 mins to load atm
26:55 <Tim-Sim> oh fuck windows
26:55 <Tigger_> crashed drive?
27:27 <President_Trump> well broke/ doesnt work anymore
28:07 <President_Trump> what do u use Tim-Sim?
28:19 <Tim-Sim> Imy windows 7 laptop was taking about 6 to 7 minutes to load, so I reinstalled it but it was having issues with the drivers and the antivirus that was bundled with it so I stuck linux on it. Now it takes about 30 seconds to boot
28:37 <Tigger_> that's why HDD doesn't work for Windows anymore, the install footprint is just too big
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31:47 <President_Trump> why dont u download a clean version of win 7?
32:05 <Tim-Sim> don't need to anymore
32:16 <President_Trump> you have more need than ever now, you are running linux
32:20 <Tim-Sim> I do like windows 7 though
32:41 <Tim-Sim> I have it duel booted
32:47 <Tim-Sim> dual
33:03 <President_Trump> take a screen shot of what u are looking at atm
33:19 <Lordzim> anyone here?
33:38 <Tigger_> Linux is notorious for not playing well with laptops, such as not supporting the power saving modes, running at 100% battery usage all the time
33:44 <Tigger_> hi Lordzim
33:55 <xm> Linus goes with Macbook Pros
34:19 <xm> i am currently trying to think of whether i should just buy a new PC or get a nice NAS
34:24 <Tigger_> for the hardware
34:28 <xm> yes
34:51 <xm> i got lazy and didnt really discriminate with the NAS that i have already, it's at 97% capacity used
35:04 <xm> been moving files back and forth
35:09 <xm> right now if the externals died that's it
35:31 <Tigger_> 97% of 8Tb?
35:38 <xm> 4TB, RAID 1
35:55 <xm> i didnt do JBOD in the end
36:01 <Tigger_> oh ok
36:17 <Tim-Sim> President_Trump: http://imgur.com/xlm1WnF
36:43 <Tigger_> so Apple II
37:03 <President_Trump> lollllllllllllllllllllllllll wtf is that, boot to win 7 immediately
37:18 <xm> lmao
37:22 <xm> boot immediately
37:46 <Tim-Sim> lol
37:49 <Tigger_> it's one of the Hexchat themes
38:01 <Tim-Sim> it's good as!
38:11 <xm> who makes good laptops these days but isnt Apple
38:23 <xm> or should i just do a custom build PC
38:32 <Tigger_> Toshiba last time I looked
38:36 <xm> i c
38:49 <President_Trump> get a gaming laptop
38:55 <President_Trump> unless u need 12 hours battery life at once
39:19 <Tigger_> ah yes, an Alienware laptop
39:49 <xm> how much would a good one set me back?
40:18 <xm> they arent as expensive as i thought for the entry level
40:47 <Tim-Sim> < is a gaming laptop. 8 core, i7, 18inch screen, backlit keyboard
40:54 <Tigger_> the one President_Trump is getting has an M.2 slot
41:06 <Tigger_> Tim-Sim, what make/model?
41:25 <Tim-Sim> it is a Toshiba X505
42:08 <Tim-Sim> it is getting a bit old now but i'm still happy with it
42:09 <Tigger_> 2009!!!
42:21 <Tim-Sim> lol
42:22 <President_Trump> lol
42:32 <President_Trump> very LOW ENERGY laptop
42:33 <Tigger_> it must be well built if it's still going now
42:44 <President_Trump> i want 7 years out of this one i get
44:14 <Tim-Sim> i replaced the keyboard recently, also put a new 500gb ssd in it, i am going to put the old 500gb drive in it as weel, it can have two hard drives in it
44:52 Quit: Lordzim ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client
45:13 <Tim-Sim> i love it
45:31 * Tim-Sim pats his Qosmio
45:33 <President_Trump> how much did it cost back then?
47:01 <xm> this alienware site is horrendous
47:18 <xm> good luck trying to configure/custom build it without it being painful
47:33 <Tim-Sim> it cost me $1100, it was a factory second because it had a chip on one corner from where it had been dropped, they tested it sold it cheap. I think they were selling for over $2000 brand new at the time
47:45 <President_Trump> alienware looks way overpriced fromw aht ive seen
47:46 <Tigger_> it was a good buy
48:18 <Tigger_> with Alienware you're paying for the GPU
48:41 <xm> not worth it for SC II
49:58 <xm> what's teh difference between ultrabook and notebook?
50:16 <Tigger_> ultrabooks are thin, light, and expensive
50:23 <Tim-Sim> what about AOE II?
50:25 <xm> so no from me then
51:15 <xm> there is one glaring problem though
51:32 <xm> they all come with Windows 10. not just Toshiba laptops, but nearly everything ive seen everywhere
51:40 <Tigger_> but good that you're looking for something other than a Macbook, I'd give it a 50% chance that Apple will shut down their OSX line in a few years
51:59 <xm> i have no loyalty towards Apple, just their audio stuff
52:11 <Tigger_> you can buy Win 7/8 Professional still, and install it yourself
52:39 <President_Trump> use an old key
52:41 <Tigger_> actually I've been wondering if Win10 Pro is a way to escape the spyware and adware that is built into Win10
53:11 <Tim-Sim> yeah, spyware in Win10
53:33 <xm> and even there, they are getting complaints that they are neglecting that program
53:46 <xm> so people are jumping ship. OS X is getting worse too
53:54 <Tim-Sim> linux ftw
54:02 <xm> i do like the hardware though
54:06 <Tim-Sim> :)
54:10 <xm> the mic, audio and keyboard is great
54:12 <xm> so is the screen res
54:14 <President_Trump> Tim-Sim dont u use that ssd for windows?
55:02 <Tim-Sim> President_Trump: Duel booting Win7 and Linux Mint on the Samsung 500gb 850 evo SSD
55:22 <xm> yess toshiba have option for win 7
56:00 <Tim-Sim> When Linux mint 18 comes out, I am going to do a fresh install of linux mint on the SSD and leave the old win 7 on the other HDD
57:08 <Tim-Sim> I still think win7 is better than LM but I am having fun with it and it is TOTALLY FREE
58:24 <Tim-Sim> there were a couple of road bumps installing LM but I got it sorted
58:29 <President_Trump> win7 wont be supported in a few years
01:40 <Tim-Sim> costs $200 for win7, another $150 for office, then they have the cheek to spy on you. Most linux distros are free, pretty secure and can be loaded with Libre Office which is totally free too
02:17 <Tigger_> LibreOffice is for Windows too
02:33 <Tigger_> and I paid $109 for Windows 7 OEM
03:30 Join: Lordzim ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
03:32 <Lordzim> sup
03:37 <Tim-Sim> That is cheap. MSY has Win7 Pro OEM going for $195 http://www.msy.com.au/pc-components/10195-microsoft-ms-windows-7-pro-64bit-oem.html
03:38 <xm> does anyone think it's worthwhile getting 32GB
03:53 <xm> i havent ran out of RAM since getting this laptop with 16GB
04:04 <Tigger_> this is Win7 Home OEM for $109, probably not for sale anymore
04:17 <Tigger_> xm, probably not yet
04:31 <Tigger_> though the Anniversary edition of Win10 apparently requires more ram
04:32 <Tim-Sim> ran out of RAM??? What are you doing with it?
04:57 <xm> music production, virtual machines for CAD
05:10 <Tim-Sim> oh cool
05:12 <xm> music production can go over 16GB if you have lots of samples
05:17 <xm> but i dont really use samples
05:22 <xm> i mostly sequence MIDI synths
07:21 <Tim-Sim> xm: what does that mean? DO you record stuff using a MIDI keyboard?
07:26 <President_Trump> win 7/8 home can only take 16gb ram max cant they?
07:36 <xm> sometimes i record MIDI
07:52 <xm> but whether i record MIDI or sequence it with a mouse i still go through a synth
08:00 <xm> not a sampler that loads it all up
08:12 <xm> a sample with large audio files
08:16 <xm> sampler*
08:30 <xm> http://www.laptopmag.com/images/wp/purch-api/incontent/2016/03/best-worst_ltp_brands_2016_full-scorecard_v2.5.jpg
08:36 <xm> dell and asus are catching up
08:46 <Tim-Sim> yeah i think i get it
08:59 <Tigger_> the Home editions are max 16Gb
09:35 <President_Trump> what does xm use?
09:58 <Tim-Sim> If I were to by another laptop I'd probably get an ASUS, making sure it had a good quality keyboard and screen
10:17 <President_Trump> why wouldnt you get another gaming laptop?
10:47 <Warren1984> President_Trump's favourite song -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrY39ooSKBY
10:49 <Tim-Sim> I don't really use this one for gaming, I prefer the desktop for games
10:51 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Lady GaGa - Alejandro (Dec 4, 2009) Length: - Category: People & Blogs - 2,792,416 views views - 6,254 likes (96.6%), dislikes (3.4%)
10:53 <Tigger_> my laptop is ASUS, it has been pretty good, I replaced the keyboard and the HDD (with the hybrid)
11:17 <Tim-Sim> I do have plants vs zombies on here though
11:24 <xm> now that it's likely i wont need more than 16GB of RAM, im wondering if i should go back to mac
11:35 <Tim-Sim> NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
11:36 <xm> as that was the main reason why i didnt want to go with an apple, as it was a massive jump for 32GB
11:52 <xm> im just too lazy to find a proven laptop for DAW
11:56 <Warren1984> lady gaga says roberto
11:58 <xm> apple stuff is proven
12:07 <Lordzim> asus exploded on everyones face
12:13 <Tim-Sim> yeah apple is pretty solid
12:26 <xm> there are things to do with recording, timing, ASIO etc
12:34 <xm> the wrong laptop could make it a waste of $$$
13:01 <xm> it's a headache doing research
13:04 <Tigger_> it's looking like the iPad Pro is going to be Apple's long term replacement for their OSX machines
13:04 <xm> toooooo many options
13:12 <xm> iPads suck
13:16 <xm> iPhone too
13:26 <xm> i dont even know how to copy my PDFs back on there
13:43 <xm> i wonder if an update has restricted it
14:50 <Lordzim> dont think ipad pro would replace a laptop
15:03 <Lordzim> a glass screen would never replace a proper keyboard for me
15:14 <Tigger_> the iPad Pro has a keyboard attachment
15:17 <Tigger_> and mouse
15:41 <President_Trump> it doesnt matter what you get just make sure its better than Warren1984's
16:21 <Tigger_> it doesn't seem likely that Apple is going to maintain two laptop ranges, particularly when the OSX machines are less than 10% of their revenue
16:36 <Tim-Sim> I have no use for an Ipad, I prefer a mouse and keyboard.
17:22 <Lordzim> thats pretty cool. i got a mouse to work with my droid phone
19:01 <President_Trump> using an ipad should result in death
19:57 <President_Trump> i am assuming if u like that sort of thing u can probably get android for a third the price
20:32 <Tigger_> for the equivalent hardware, Android and Apple are about the same price
20:36 <Tim-Sim> I am contemplating putting an android emulator on here so that I can play Plants vs Zombies 2\
20:51 <President_Trump> really? not on phones
20:53 <Tigger_> the problem is that iOS is so limited
20:57 <President_Trump> the top end maybe
21:26 <Tigger_> Android has cheap hardware at the low end, Apple just doesn't compete at the low end
21:35 <President_Trump> mid range
21:52 <President_Trump> the androids blow them away
22:03 <Tim-Sim> Ipads are locked, can't upgrade the memory (or at least you never use to be able too), with the other pads like the ASUS transformer you could put a 64gb SD card in it
22:36 <Tim-Sim> Samsung pads are pretty good
22:45 <Tim-Sim> their higher end ones
25:05 <Tigger_> I've shortlisted the Samsung 9" pad for a comic reader
28:12 <President_Trump> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxsuDvglErM
28:16 <BlackDevil> Youtube: LIVE Donald Trump Press Conference New York at Trump Tower ✔ (Date not found) Length: 0:01 - Category: News & Politics - - likes (98.5%), 2 dislikes (1.5%)
28:48 <President_Trump> i think it is almost over
29:52 <Tim-Sim> Dude from work is getting me a MAGA hat when he is over there
30:09 <Tim-Sim> can't wait to wear it around Dandenong
31:17 <President_Trump> what colour?
31:24 <Tigger_> Make Dandenong White Again
31:43 <President_Trump> that is something that will never happen
36:37 <Tigger_> asking Trump about the poor gorilla
39:20 Join: doctor ([email protected]) to #politicaldebate
39:42 <Tigger_> hi doctor
39:48 <doctor> hey tigger
39:52 <doctor> lol @ topic
40:29 <President_Trump> https://www.pccasegear.com/category/1764/gaming-chairs
42:33 <Tigger_> my improvement on this: https://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/uploads/2016/05/manenoughforhillary.jpg
42:53 <Tigger_> why not just get a chair from Officeworks
43:49 <xm> so i looked at laptops for CAD workstations, and they only sell it with Windows 7 Pro
44:50 <President_Trump> reporter just got STUMPED
45:34 <xm> https://www.ple.com.au/Products/617242/MSI-WS60-2OJ-097AU-156-Windows-7-Pro-Workstation-Notebook
45:48 <xm> Processor: Intel® Core™ i7 processor 4720HQ (Quad Core 2.6 GHz - 3.6 GHz - 6MB L3 Cache)
45:51 <xm> Memory: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600Mhz (16GB Max)
45:54 <xm> Hard Drive: 256GB (2x 128GB M.2) SSD + 1TB HDD (7200RPM)
45:56 <xm> Display: 15.6" Widescreen Full HD LED (1920x1080)
45:59 <xm> Graphics: Nvidia® Quadro K2100M 2GB GDDR5 (HDMI & miniDisplayPort)
46:06 <xm> Hard Drive: 256GB (2x 128GB ***********M.2********) SSD + 1TB HDD (7200RPM)
46:14 <xm> ill get this
46:53 <xm> but it isnt a single SSD?
46:54 <xm> 2x?
47:05 <xm> unless there is something i dont know
49:40 <xm> im going around in circles
49:43 <xm> now i want a desktop
50:21 <President_Trump> looks like its 2 ssds
51:05 <Tigger_> two M.2 slots?
51:35 <President_Trump> yeah 2
51:38 <President_Trump> check the msi website
52:15 <xm> so M.2 is basically a standard for a controller
52:23 <President_Trump> seems pretty expensive
52:27 <xm> i was under the impression it connected to existing SSD
52:29 <xm> im a bit behind
52:31 <President_Trump> for a few extra things
53:35 <President_Trump> its a pci slot
54:16 <President_Trump> pcie whatever
54:34 <Tigger_> oh a PCIE enabler card
55:04 <Tigger_> that's what the new HP DL380 server racks are doing, but I'd rather it was directly on the motherboard
55:06 <xm> they are connected in RAID 0 too
55:54 <President_Trump> just get a desktop
56:06 <President_Trump> better bang for your buck
56:36 Quit: Lordzim ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client
57:52 <xm> DDR4 isnt really worth it now is it
58:09 <President_Trump> leave the laptops to the big boys
58:31 <Tigger_> I would go for DDR4 for a new machine
58:58 <President_Trump> ddr4 4 lyfe
59:02 <Tim-Sim> I am buying a new system tomorrow to put mame on
59:08 <xm> why is that Tim-Sim ?
59:10 <xm> Tigger_:
59:15 <xm> will it take over as the new standard?
59:27 <President_Trump> that was another weird thing, looking at most of the 'office' laptops the ddr4 didnt really start to kick in until the $1800 mark
00:01 <Tigger_> laptop manufacturers buy parts by the warehouse, so they find it hard to turnaround for a new technology
00:02 <Tim-Sim> for an arcade machine, the video card I have to run the arcade monitor is a PCI express x16 so I need to build a cheap computer around that card
00:51 <Tigger_> you could just use a Raspberry Pi to run most Mame games
02:06 <Tigger_> if you were emulating PS2 and Gamecube you'd need a decent graphics card
02:24 <Tim-Sim> Tigger_: it is outputting it to the correct resolution and frequency that is the problem.
02:32 <Tigger_> Hillary's neck is weird: http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/56b40d292e52651d008b50ce/enough-is-enough-hillary-clinton-tells-bernie-sanders-to-stop-smearing-her-over-wall-street-money.jpg
02:45 <xm> Warren1984: Chang---> http://i.dell.com/das/dih.ashx/468w/sites/imagecontent/merchandizing/PublishingImages/precision_robust_fixedwks_475X350.jpg
03:05 <President_Trump> that is why she wears clothes taht covers her neck most of the time
03:18 <Tigger_> oh you're going for ultra accuracy? I just run them all at 1080p, 60hz, and apply a filter to replicate scanlines
03:39 <Tigger_> Chang should be stealing chips
04:26 <Tim-Sim> Tigger_: That is what I have on my computers, but I am talking about a real arcade machine, with a real cabinet, coin slot, etc
04:46 <Tigger_> ah, 15hz CRT monitor?
04:50 <Tim-Sim> yes
04:56 <Tigger_> that's tricky
05:03 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why is chang stealing chips
05:18 <Tigger_> because Chang is the chip stealer
05:26 <Warren1984> <xm> Warren1984: Chang---> http://i.dell.com/das/dih.ashx/468w/sites/imagecontent/merchandizing/PublishingImages/precision_robust_fixedwks_475X350.jpg <- lol
06:53 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you have a V6?
07:01 <Tigger_> yes
07:11 <Tigger_> that's what I used yesterday to make my chips
07:17 <Warren1984> my car is only 4 cylinder
07:25 <Tim-Sim> I had an ultimarc ArcadeVGA card with 8x AGP in it but I short circuited it so now it has a faulty output. So I bought a new ultimarc ArcadeVGA card but it uses a PCIe x16 slot which means need to build a new pc for it to go in, that will sit inside the cabinet
07:40 <President_Trump> Warren1984 i am going to have a better gaming chair than you
07:51 <Warren1984> I don't have a gaming chair
09:01 <Warren1984> xm we need to play Tigger_ in AOE 2
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09:31 <Tigger_> I want to build an arcade machine, but to play my own games rather than Mame
09:58 <President_Trump> Warren1984 you need to get a gaming chair
11:40 <Tigger_> gaming chairs to win AOE II
12:00 <Tim-Sim> need gaming couches
12:08 <President_Trump> Warren1984 a gaming chair will give your stinker good exhaust
12:09 <Tim-Sim> or like a full on dentists chair
13:44 <Warren1984> Tigger_ has a gaming wheelchair, with a zip so he can get his stinker licked out
14:46 <Saemon> donald trump
15:16 <Saemon> i find it hilarious that with obama, he came with all the qualifications in the world, including a top of the class law degree from harvard
15:34 <Saemon> yet everybosy was up in arms questioning his abilities
15:46 <Saemon> and here is donald trump, 0 credentials
15:53 <President_Trump> ?
15:55 <Saemon> and he somehow could be winning the election
15:56 <President_Trump> are you insane?
16:18 <Saemon> why would u ask that
16:25 <President_Trump> obama had achieved nothing
16:30 <Saemon> u got a problem with what im saying?
16:30 <President_Trump> he was a junior senator
16:42 <Tigger_> what had Obama achieved exactly?
16:54 <President_Trump> the wharton school of finance is one of the best in the world - where trump went
17:00 <Tigger_> Obama's academic results are sealed, nobody knows what he got at Harvard
17:11 <Warren1984> http://xhamster.com/movies/2436053/hot_hairy_pussy_indian_teen_in_shower_gets_anal_in_bathroom.html?embed=related&from=player_related
17:22 <Saemon> obama killed bin laden.
17:53 <Saemon> thats a pretty big fucking deal
18:29 <Warren1984> watch at 3:35
18:50 <President_Trump> umm yeah the military said 'we know where he is should we get him?', obama said 'ok'
18:53 <Tigger_> Obama didn't kill bin Laden BEFORE he was president
19:43 <Tigger_> it's what qualifies someone to be president, that is the question here
19:45 <Saemon> well trumps a racist bigot
19:47 <Warren1984> President_Trump watch at 3:35
20:02 <Saemon> he is not suited to be a leader of a nation
20:38 <President_Trump> how is he a racist bigot?
20:52 <Warren1984> President_Trump watch at 3:35
20:53 <Tigger_> Why has Obama sealed all of his transcripts, his theses and his test scores? David Maraniss had the opportunity to find out when he interviewed the president for his half-baked biography, “Barack Obama: The Story.” He failed to do so.
20:53 <Tigger_> Instead of checking his college records, or even asking why they have been sealed, Maraniss simply took Obama’s word on his grade point average. Obama claimed a 3.7 (out of 4) at Columbia. This is unlikely. Although Obama did graduate from Columbia, he did not graduate with honors. This much we know from the graduation program.
20:53 <Tigger_> In “The Bridge,” Obama-friendly biographer David Remnick concedes that Obama was an “unspectacular” student at Columbia and at every stop before that. A professor who wrote a letter of reference for Obama reinforces the point, telling Remnick, “I don’t think [Obama] did too well in college.”
20:55 <Saemon> he hates mexicans and latinos
21:39 <President_Trump> why does he hate them?
22:08 <Saemon> their skin is not white
22:42 <President_Trump> so it's true what he says that he will be a 'common sense president'
23:42 <Saemon> what the hell does he know about governing and leading a nation and its people?
23:53 <Saemon> diplomacy and foreign relations?
23:54 <President_Trump> what did obama know?
23:56 <Tigger_> so if doing well at university qualifies one to be president, then surely there are millions of people who should be president, including Donald Trump
24:13 <Saemon> you cant run a country like the CEO of the apprentice
24:28 <Tigger_> how should a country be run?
24:33 <President_Trump> i can see your point, obama has been so completely hopeless after being an unqualified president, and u think trump will be teh same
24:58 <Saemon> Tigger_ read about julius caesar
25:03 <Saemon> ghengis khan
25:06 <Saemon> napoleon
25:12 <Saemon> the great rulers of history
25:35 <President_Trump> Saemon who do you think would be a good president?
25:36 <Tigger_> so Obama or Trump should march their personal army across the Rubicon?
26:09 <Tigger_> and Napoleon lost, and spent his days in exile
26:32 <Saemon> no, they should engage in open discussion with the senate and the forum, and be open to accepting new people into the nation and making them citizens
27:08 <President_Trump> do you open up your front door and invite criminals in to live with you?
27:24 <Tigger_> certainly Genghis Khan was very open to accepting new people into his nation, he didn't even wait to ask them
27:45 <Saemon> well use common sense, obviously candidates would be background checked etc.
27:57 <Saemon> before being allowed citizenship and what not
28:17 <Tigger_> but that's what Trump is saying, he doesn't want illegal immigrants that avoid background checks
28:24 <President_Trump> trump has said they can come legally, you obviously dont follow politics much
28:26 <Tigger_> so you agree with Trump
28:49 <Saemon> well look at his freaken haircut
28:57 <President_Trump> Saemon who do you think would be a good president?
29:15 <Saemon> its an abomination, a disgrace. how could you have a respectable leader with that weird hair plugs
29:28 <Tigger_> that is his real hair, as he has proved
29:35 <Saemon> President_Trump i reckon ombama is doin a fine job
29:52 <Saemon> obama care introduced a medicare like healthcare system to america
29:58 <President_Trump> no one can afford it
30:08 <President_Trump> and the price is going up and up fast now that he's leaving
30:09 <Tigger_> Obamacare is not like Medicare
30:18 <President_Trump> something he left to the next president
30:24 <Saemon> obama worked hard for gun control
30:34 <Saemon> trump is pro-gun
30:36 <Tigger_> Obamacare is a health insurance scheme, no new hospitals or anything like that
30:42 <President_Trump> Saemon who do you think would be a good president?
30:44 <Tigger_> Bernie Sanders is pro gun too
30:48 <President_Trump> forget obama he is leaving
30:48 <Warren1984> Tigger_
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32:01 <Tigger_> also even a lot of the Democrats admit that Obamacare is a spectacular mess, and has done nothing but enrich privately owned insurance companies
32:05 <President_Trump> Saemon who would be your number 1 choice for president if u could have anyone?
32:23 <Saemon> hrm
32:32 <Saemon> john howard
32:46 <Saemon> he did our country right
33:00 <President_Trump> howard and trump are more similar than howard and obama
33:02 <Saemon> u dont get to be the longest serving PM for nothin.
33:18 <Saemon> no they arent
33:36 <President_Trump> he was only the longest serving PM because he broke an agreement to step down and costello to take over
33:53 <Tigger_> probably just as well, Costello didn't have the nerve to be PM
35:30 <President_Trump> Saemon who would be your number 2 pick after john howard?
37:37 <Saemon> bill clinton
37:52 <Tigger_> Bill Clinton has already had his 8 years
38:05 <Saemon> he said i could pick anyone though
38:38 <Saemon> the clinton years were the best times for america in recent memory
38:45 <Tigger_> what about Reagan?
38:50 <Saemon> bush turned it to shits
39:03 <Saemon> reagan is not recent memory for me
39:24 <Saemon> by recent memory i mean 90s upwards
39:58 <President_Trump> this all seems to be based on how much you like them though, nothing to do with their performance
40:51 <President_Trump> i would say the clinton and bush years werent much different really
41:23 <President_Trump> when you compare that to things that obama is doing in the middle east
42:14 <Tigger_> Bill Clinton's main achievement, not noticed that much at the time, is that China went from being a low tech country to suddenly having access to high tech
42:35 <Saemon> thats a good thing
42:51 <Tigger_> why?
42:59 <President_Trump> clinton encouraged big multinationals to go overseas and use slave labor
43:04 <Saemon> because advancement of the human race as a whole is a good thing
43:09 <President_Trump> that really grew during his time
43:29 <Saemon> sooner or later the earths resources are going to be depleted and we overpopulated
43:56 <Saemon> we are eventually going to have to explore space for more options to ensure survival of our species
44:08 <President_Trump> lolllllllllllllllllllllllll space
44:22 <Tigger_> Obama has crippled NASA, preventing that from happening
44:36 <Saemon> so with humanity all technologically advanced, we should all be able to help eachother make this a possiblility
44:38 <Tigger_> Obama shut down the shuttle program, and then shut down its replacement
44:39 <President_Trump> you dont have to worry about that, by the end of trump's 8 years the world population will have decreased by about 4 billion
45:10 <Saemon> thats scarily highly possible
45:23 <Saemon> with trump in power WW3 is probably gona break out
45:31 <Tigger_> with who?
45:36 <President_Trump> when trump becomes president i would want to make sure you are in australia, america or canada because literally anywhere else in the world is at risk of being nuked
45:47 <Saemon> an era where millions could be wiped out with one single nuke
46:08 <Saemon> Tigger_ with the middle east, asia and europe
46:31 <President_Trump> trump might wake up one morning and decide he doesnt like taiwan and drop a nuke on it
46:31 <Tigger_> there's more of a risk of random hackers finding the nuclear launch codes on Hillary's email server
46:47 <Saemon> President_Trump what about england?
46:59 <Saemon> they created america
47:05 <Saemon> or their people anyway
47:13 <Tigger_> Trump would never bomb Scotland
47:26 <President_Trump> no Saemon, david cameron and the muslim mayor of england have said bad things about him
47:46 <President_Trump> this guy is so crazy he is likely to nuke them over words
48:08 <Saemon> but still, people seem to forget that england and america are literally like parent and offspring
48:21 <President_Trump> i could see a scenario where the UK dont let him invest anymore, all his golf course etc in scotland, he would nuke them as payback
48:48 <Saemon> the brits colonised america, the colonisers after living their for a while wanted to be separate and govern themselves
49:15 <President_Trump> i dont think that matters with trump
49:15 <doctor> A vote for Trump is a vote for feminism
49:16 <Saemon> its the same with australia
50:03 <doctor> mixing advocado and beef mince works well
50:20 <President_Trump> if at least 80% of your country isnt white i would be very worried about a trump presidency
50:39 <Tigger_> Make the Universe White Again
51:10 <doctor> Don't we need nonwhites to do our laundry?
51:16 <Saemon> he's hitler reborn
51:31 <President_Trump> kelly osborne seems to think so doctor
51:31 <Tigger_> if there is a single non-white living in the Andromeda Galaxy, Trump will order his interstellar battle fleet to hunt them down and kill them
51:59 <Saemon> yep, he only wants the aryan ubermensch
52:14 <President_Trump> is that avocado in a tube any good? i hate peeling them
52:17 <Saemon> if you dont have white skin, blonde hair and blue eyes, you're out
52:41 <Tigger_> once Trump purifies the Earth, then he's going to invade Mars
52:44 <President_Trump> everybody is at risk of being killed except orange people!
53:13 <doctor> Nah the tube stuff is gross. They're not hard to peel, just cut in half vertically, twist to pull a part, then use a spoon to scoop it out
53:24 <doctor> I saw we gas the aliens
53:27 <doctor> say*
53:44 <President_Trump> lol i dont mean peel, eventho i said that
54:22 <doctor> tube stuff i find too acidic
54:43 <President_Trump> is it just pure avocado or do they add a bunch of stuff?
56:59 <Saemon> immigrants make this country tho
57:12 <Saemon> ive lived this fact first hand
57:56 <Saemon> and, if it was not for an immigrant indian surgeon migrating to live and work here, my life would have not been saved
58:45 <Saemon> Dr. Hanjeed was the only one who could do the complex procedure on my heart
59:05 <doctor> they probably add something to it to prevent it from discolouring
59:18 <doctor> we used to use lemons for that so maybe that has something to do with it
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59:30 <Saemon> so i thank god that we let immigrants settle here, otherwise i would not be alive today
59:36 <doctor> i dont think they add anything else to it
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01:13 <President_Trump> Saemon i think if we had not been handing out so much in welfare to immigrants then we could have put that money to health and you would have had multiple white doctors that could have performed the operation
02:51 <Saemon> perhaps, but unlikely. alot of the white aussies here are naturally lazy
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03:13 <President_Trump> that is a racist thing to say
03:25 <Saemon> most of the people in my yr 12 class are all whites and all drop outs and druggies
03:27 <Saemon> its not
03:30 <President_Trump> lucky you arent running for president
03:30 <Saemon> im white myself
03:44 <President_Trump> some of the most anti-white people are white themselves
03:53 <President_Trump> we have one of those on irc - loopydog
04:17 <Saemon> racism is hating another race on the basis of thier skin color is different of your own
04:33 <Saemon> im hating people whose skin color is the same as mine
04:46 <President_Trump> oh well whatever you want to call it
05:39 <Tigger_> because that Indian doctor came here to save you, so many more Indian people in India died because they had their skilled doctors taken by western countries
05:40 <Saemon> President_Trump im not liking your smartarse tone
06:03 <Saemon> i can get like 5 comancheros to knock on your door right now
06:27 <Saemon> they owe me favours trust me i can call on em in a heartbeat
06:54 <Tigger_> it would have been better to save honest Indians than white associates of criminal biker gangs
07:58 <President_Trump> it sounds like you are more violent than trump
08:14 <President_Trump> it is always the people that hate trump the most that end up being far more violent and aggressive
08:42 <Saemon> im not violent
09:00 <Saemon> i just defend myself when im threatened.
09:02 <Tigger_> you just threatened violence, which in the eyes of the law, is violence in itself
09:18 <Saemon> not if its in self defence.
09:26 <President_Trump> it is good to know that when trump nukes germany he is not violent, just defending himself
09:31 <Tigger_> President_Trump hasn't threatened you
09:47 <Saemon> yes he did
09:48 <Saemon> <President_Trump> that is a racist thing to say
09:59 <Saemon> he implied that im a racist
10:06 <Tigger_> that's not a threat
10:22 <Tigger_> are you sure you're white?
10:29 <Saemon> but i still felt intimidated and threatened by that false accusation
10:48 <Tigger_> then you take him to court for defamation, not get your biker mates involved
10:50 <Saemon> and if i am in fear, i shall and will defend myself and my sense of wellbeing
11:03 <President_Trump> i felt intimidated and threatened by that false accusation when you declared trump wasn't fit to be president
11:06 <Saemon> that is my god given right as a man, by mandate of heaven.
11:35 <Tigger_> Saemon, what race are you really?
12:21 <Saemon> well...its tricky
12:24 <Saemon> my skin is white
12:39 <Saemon> but i have the facial features of an aborginal
12:45 <Tigger_> ah I see
12:54 <Saemon> technically, im an albino aboriginal
13:06 <Saemon> but, since all my skin is white...
13:14 <Saemon> i guess im white, right?
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13:18 <Tigger_> I knew by your "you looked at me the wrong way, so I have to violently attack you" manner, that you couldn't possibly be white
14:05 <Saemon> it was hard growin u[
14:07 <Saemon> up*
14:18 <Saemon> i was ostracised
15:02 <Saemon> every race has a certain look to them
15:17 <Saemon> u cant just slap on a color on one race and expect it to look normal
15:51 <Saemon> like get a chinese person and dump black paint on them and say 'voila, you're now a negro'
16:06 <Saemon> or a black person and paint them white
16:23 <Saemon> which is pretty much me
16:56 <Tigger_> facial reconstruction surgery
17:16 <Saemon> yeah ive thought about having a nose job
17:19 <Saemon> as u know
17:28 <Saemon> aboriginal noses are quite flat and wide
17:40 <Saemon> but then, it doesnt suit my eyes, lips and jaws
17:47 <Saemon> so i gotta get them altered too
17:58 <Saemon> its gona be such a long and expensive process
18:06 <Saemon> sometimes i just think fuck it and kill myself
18:39 <Saemon> and hopefully in the next life be born as a beautiful girl or somethin
18:53 <Tigger_> that's even more expensive, in this life
19:02 <Saemon> what is
19:15 <Tigger_> to become a woman
19:28 <Saemon> i dont want to become a woman in this life
19:39 <Saemon> i want to be one naturally in the next life
19:52 <Saemon> in this life, i want to HAVE a woman
19:58 <Saemon> in the next life, i want to BE a woman
20:20 <Tigger_> why do you want to be reincarnated as a woman?
20:51 <Saemon> well they are very beautiful, graceful and elegant
21:25 <Saemon> and they seem to always be clean, neat and tidy, smart and gets what they want
21:50 <Tigger_> unless they're fat
22:07 <President_Trump> what if u come back as an aboriginal woman?
22:13 <Saemon> well me as a man, im a fat shy loner
22:29 <Saemon> no woman has ever wanted me
22:58 <Saemon> maybe when im a beatufil woman in the next life, i could be a lesbian and attract other hot woman
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23:24 <Tigger_> the first step to self improvement is to look to Trump, to see how to be rich and successful and have lots of beautiful women
23:30 <Saemon> President_Trump nah fuck that, being an abo woman is like the worse possible way to be a woman
23:46 <Saemon> ugly, smelly, get raped and bashed up by their men
24:02 <Saemon> i'd rather be born an animal tbh
24:07 <Saemon> a fucken lioness
24:13 <Saemon> now thats fucken awesome
24:57 <Saemon> Tigger_ but donald trump is so ugly though
25:09 <Tigger_> he gets all the supermodels
25:16 <Saemon> with all the billions he has, you'd think he would invest in some cosmetic surgery
25:26 <Saemon> make himself look like brad pitt
25:28 <President_Trump> he is almost 70 now
25:39 <Tigger_> why? he doesn't have to look at himself, he looks at his wives
25:41 <Saemon> i know, he was the money, and with it, he could gain the looks as well
25:58 <Saemon> good point
25:59 <President_Trump> he is already a very good looking man, and nice big hands
26:06 <Saemon> i guess
26:20 <Saemon> he looks good in his younger pictures
26:39 <Saemon> yea i guess when your hitting 70, no amount of cosmetic surgery is gona help
26:58 <Saemon> thats at the point where u just look fucking old after 70 years of existance
27:04 <Saemon> no way around it lol
27:24 <Tigger_> could be worse, he could look like Bernie
27:32 <Saemon> whose bernie
27:38 <Tigger_> Bernie Sanders
27:43 <Saemon> who dat
27:54 <Tigger_> Hillary's opponent
27:57 <Saemon> i see
28:10 <Saemon> wait if trumps almost 70
28:17 <Saemon> isnt that too old to be president?
28:27 <Saemon> wat if he becomes senile mid-office?
28:44 <Saemon> dont want some forgetful dementia old guy controlling the nuke codes
28:46 <Saemon> fuck that
28:51 <Tigger_> Hillary is about the same age
29:01 <President_Trump> hillary has had a brain clot
29:02 <Tigger_> Bernie is older
29:04 <Saemon> fuck her too im certainly not on her side
30:02 <Saemon> if i was clinton, i'd tap dat hot intern lewinsky ass too
30:08 <Tigger_> Trump is a year older than Hillary, but she's aged a lot more
30:09 <Saemon> bill clinton*
30:29 <Saemon> lol yeah
30:38 <Tigger_> she has a lot of health problems that show from time to time
30:44 <Saemon> women seem to look older than men at that age range
31:08 <President_Trump> hillary's hair is getting quite thin too, whereas trump still has good quality hair
31:19 <Saemon> even at 40, a 40 yr old man looks more young than a 40 year old woman
31:39 <Saemon> wow
32:06 <Saemon> and you'd think trump would lose hair due to that male hormone thing that cause male pattern baldness in men
32:42 <Tigger_> it's actually a loss of testosterone that causes male baldness
32:43 <Saemon> still, hilary is fonancially loaded, she should invest in some hair plugs or someshit
32:56 <Saemon> really?
33:01 <Tigger_> that's why leftwing men are all balding at 20
33:24 <Saemon> then why arent balding blokes takin testosterone supplements
34:05 <Tigger_> it probably can't be artificially corrected like that
34:10 <Tigger_> or else they would
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36:21 <Saemon> im scared of goin bald
36:29 <Saemon> cause i have a penis tattoo on my head
37:04 <Saemon> my dad tricked me into getting it, saying hes gona get me a darth maul tattoo
37:21 <Saemon> he did it to piss of my mum after they divorced
37:50 <Tigger_> you should sue your dad, you'd win easily
38:26 <Saemon> lol im just embaressed about ppl seeing it, but i actually really like what he did, the gesture of it
38:29 <Saemon> i think its hilarious
39:09 <Tigger_> then wear a hairpiece
39:09 <Saemon> i mean, if i had a wife and she was a bitch who cheated on me and left me for another man, id probably do the same thing too lol
39:26 <Saemon> he still loves me as a father
39:32 <Saemon> we're cool and always have been
39:52 <Saemon> its just he did this to get back at my mum and i understand that
41:39 <Tigger_> I wouldn;t
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57:41 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you make a list of things you want/need to save money for. Then set priorities and deadlines?
08:42 <Arbition> Noting this is USD, this is interesting http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Computex-2016-AMD-Go
09:35 <Arbition> AMD must be finding themselves uncompetitive in the GPU space as well as the CPU space and are scrambling to do something
11:53 <Arbition> I'm wondering if perhaps it is time for me to finally get a recent graphics card
12:58 <Arbition> I've mostly been with nVidia, but with linux support already lined up for it, I might jump ship
37:19 <Warren1984> you should get a nVidia GeForce 1080
37:26 <Warren1984> with water cooling
38:35 <Warren1984> Arbition can you think of another strategy to beat Tigger_ in AOE 2
38:43 <Arbition> nooooo
38:49 <Warren1984> other than coming in early and smashing down his base
38:57 <Arbition> the reason I linked that is because it is cheap for the performance it gives
39:03 <Warren1984> I didn't even use elite skirmishers
39:07 <Warren1984> only skirmishers
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39:14 <Arbition> Not really Warren1984
39:23 <Warren1984> well I guess it depends on what you want
39:24 <Arbition> What I did was use brute force
39:48 <Warren1984> you should get company of hereos that is a good game
39:51 <Arbition> I just had enough resources and produced faster than he could
40:09 <Warren1984> what about going as goths against him
40:25 <Arbition> that is quoted as a common strategy
40:34 <Arbition> I haven't used it, so I can't speak from personal experience
41:03 <Warren1984> Arbition you should get this -> http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/5/27/11800622/msi-sea-hawk-corsair-liquid-cooling-geforce-gtx-1080-graphics-card
41:18 <Arbition> nope nope nope nope
41:26 <Arbition> no way I'd pay that much money
41:29 <Warren1984> Arbition do you want to get hurt
41:48 <Warren1984> jokes
42:55 <Warren1984> would you get a liquid cooler for the GPU though?
43:32 <Warren1984> I mean CPU
44:37 <Arbition> probably not. If I was having airflow issues I would consider it, otherwise its just an extra step for heat removal
44:55 <Arbition> I already have a large direct to air cooler
45:22 <Warren1984> it's quieter
45:36 <Warren1984> and gets rid of more heat
45:52 <Arbition> Not really. Only because the fans are larger and thus slower, but my heatsink is already large and the fans are fairly large
45:59 <Warren1984> I am suppose to be leaving soon and learning how to cook
46:13 <Warren1984> not really that interested but I think it's important to learn how to cook
46:36 <Arbition> getting rid of more heat is still a function of how big the air to water intercooler is, so its not like it is magic
46:45 <Warren1984> well the liquid cooler has a fan on it's radiator
46:51 <Arbition> it just allows you more flexibility in where you put the heat radiating fins
46:59 <Arbition> otherwise exactly the same as a standard heatsink
47:05 <Warren1984> cars have liquid cooling
47:09 <Warren1984> with a radiator
47:22 <Arbition> yeah, because putting large enough fins directly on the engine block is unviable
47:47 <Warren1984> VW beatles are air cooled
47:50 <Arbition> further, the cooling fluid goes through the engine block
48:01 <Arbition> in the case of the CPU, both liquid and air coolers go straight up on top of the die, so there is zero advantage from that perspective
48:13 <Warren1984> depends
48:19 <Arbition> not at all
48:28 <Warren1984> the CPU has no room
48:29 <Arbition> you're not putting fluid through the CPU die
48:46 <Warren1984> some video cards have liquid cooling in them
49:23 <Arbition> In any case, whatever cooler you use, you have to move the same heat away from the CPU, and the water does not make heat dissapear, it moves it
49:39 <Warren1984> Arbition -> http://www.pcgamer.com/ek-introduces-water-blocks-for-geforce-gtx-1080/
49:55 <Arbition> As I said, it allows for more flexibility of heatsink fin placement
50:05 <Arbition> I have seen some really cool designs
50:18 <Arbition> but most of the time, it is not a great advantage
50:19 <Warren1984> heat rises and goes to the top of the CPU
50:34 <Arbition> uh...
50:43 <Arbition> heat doesn't tend to conduct through solids like this
50:50 <Arbition> that's liquids and gasses
50:59 <Warren1984> then why have a copper heatsink?
51:18 <Arbition> that's a factor of thermal gradient, its got nothing to do with gravity
51:24 <Arbition> the heatsink will work in any direction
51:42 <Warren1984> the liquid cooler is a copper heatsink
51:46 <Arbition> and?
51:59 <Warren1984> but the heat goes into the liquid
52:09 <Warren1984> and dissipates through the radiator
52:12 <Arbition> yes
52:13 <Arbition> so?
52:19 <Arbition> it isn't magic, its still the same heat
52:21 <Warren1984> more effective
52:26 <Arbition> Not at all
52:31 <Warren1984> of course it is
52:37 <Warren1984> otherwise it would be a scam
52:43 <Arbition> funny you should say that
52:58 <Warren1984> all I know is when compared to a heatsink with a fan attached
53:12 <Arbition> What heatsink though? If you mean the stock heatsink that is trivial to beat
53:14 <Warren1984> the fan is not spinning as fast with the liquid cooler
53:22 <Arbition> I've already explained this
53:28 <Arbition> the important thing is how big the radiator is
53:36 <Arbition> not the fact that it goes through a water step
53:50 <Warren1984> the radiator is quiet big
53:58 <Arbition> Sure.
54:07 <Warren1984> and the fan is the same size as the radiator
54:17 <Arbition> also liquid transfer isn't quite as good as heatpipes
54:26 <Warren1984> the computer case sucks in air from the front
54:32 <Arbition> even though heatpipes are a hybrid solid liquid hybrid
54:35 <Warren1984> and blows it out the back with the radiator
54:48 <Arbition> So its still reliant on case ambient
54:52 <Warren1984> my CPU core temp is always lower
55:01 <Arbition> compared to... the stock heatsink?
55:05 <Warren1984> yes
55:19 <Arbition> I already said my heatsink is not stock, that is an unfair comparison
55:35 <Warren1984> it's not entirely reliant of case ambient
55:52 <Arbition> If it isn't outside the case, or have its own fans drawing from directly outside, it is
55:58 <Warren1984> because the fan is before the radiator and sucks air in and pushes it through the radiator
56:04 <Warren1984> the fans at the front just help it
56:20 <Arbition> my heatsink does exactly the same
56:24 <Arbition> it has 2 fans
56:24 <Warren1984> case fans just help the entire computer
56:37 <Arbition> yes I know
56:37 <Warren1984> like keeping the motherboard cool
56:41 <Arbition> yes I know
57:18 <Arbition> This is the heatsink I have, notice that the combined area of both cooling towers is quite large http://noctua.at/en/nh-d15.html
57:40 <Arbition> The loudest part of my computer are the hard drives
58:45 <Arbition> the intake fans are also louder than my CPU fans
59:31 <Arbition> The best way to use liquid coolers is to a radiator assembly outside of the computer
59:34 <Warren1984> yeah that looks good
59:46 <Warren1984> why?
59:58 <Arbition> You can have very tall radiators then, which need even less fan work
00:07 <Warren1984> the radiator has fins
00:09 <Arbition> also that it uses room ambient rather than the case ambient
00:19 <Warren1984> which are good for dissapating heat
00:36 <Arbition> radiators which are larger than the case
00:39 <Warren1984> well I have no heater or aircon
00:55 <Arbition> you wouldn't need as many case fans either
01:11 <Arbition> because you wouldn't be trying to exhaust the heat of the CPU/GPU from the case
02:11 <Arbition> Frankly though, if I wanted to do anything liquid cooling, it'd be complete immersion
02:21 <Arbition> in a non conductive fluid such as mineral oil
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36:46 <Tigger_> that reminds me, I must get a low profile Noctua CPU cooler
38:43 <Tigger_> that thing is tall alright
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57:20 <Arbition> yeah, it pretty much only just fits in my case
57:33 <Arbition> has perhaps 1cm clearance from the side panel
58:01 <Arbition> the case is already a fairly generously sized case
58:31 <Arbition> its what I was getting at with, water to air doesn't on its own make cooling more effective, it gives you more flexibility in radiator placement
59:15 <Arbition> interestingly, the way I have my computer set up, I can't actually use the top vent of the case anyway
59:22 <Tigger_> just make sure it doesn't suffer the same fate as my tower case CPU cooler
59:24 <Arbition> because it has one of my monitors sitting atop it
59:36 <Arbition> yeah I should probably check the screws on the mount are proper
59:52 <Arbition> it looks like it is designed to be a sturdy mount
00:01 <Arbition> but worth checking, true
00:10 <Tigger_> you're probably safer with screws, mine was an old AMD clip on one, no screws
00:21 <Tigger_> so there was more tension in the bracket
00:32 <Arbition> its actually spring loaded screws
00:43 <Arbition> presumably to ensure contact remains constant
00:49 <Tigger_> could be an issue too
01:29 <Arbition> its kind of amusing though, the way the fan is mounted onto the heatsink is actually just a bit of wire
01:55 <Arbition> it does the job quite well, allows some flexibility in fan placement, but it just seems like its not proper, if you know what I mean
02:02 <Tigger_> yeah
02:08 <Tigger_> so how quiet is it?
02:29 <Arbition> well its rarely running at full tilt
02:40 <Arbition> so outside of that, i hear my hard drives and intake fans more than the CPU cooler fans
03:07 <Arbition> when it is running full tilt, its a nicer lower frequency sound
03:13 <Arbition> than most fans
03:29 <Tigger_> for me it is the opposite, I never hear the case fans much, though I do hear the stock Intel cooler, though it is actually reasonably quiet
04:04 <Arbition> noting though I do put the fans to maximum pretty early due to my overclocking
04:14 <Arbition> I imagine for standard powers you wouldn't need full fan speed
04:26 <Tigger_> yeah, I never overclock
05:11 <Tigger_> outside of the occasional video encoding, my CPU never gets a workout
05:20 <Arbition> pretty much
05:32 <Arbition> idle power is still pretty good though
05:38 <Arbition> it still does frequency scaling
06:04 <Tigger_> the CPU fan?
06:04 <Arbition> its just got a slightly higher voltage, which does increase power consumption by about 10% or so across the whole range
06:09 <Arbition> no the CPU
06:12 <Tigger_> ok
06:23 <Arbition> To ensure stability at higher frequencies you need more voltage
06:36 <Tigger_> oh I remember now, the old bios settings for CPU frequency
06:39 <Arbition> its a bit annoying it doesn't allow more customisation of voltages
06:50 <Arbition> because at normal clock speeds, it doesn't need the extra volrage
07:15 <Arbition> but yeah, the system at idle is about 40w I think
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07:24 <Arbition> I'd have to measure it again
07:31 <Tigger_> what is it pre-overclocked?
07:41 <Arbition> never tested, but it wouldn't be much lower
07:51 <Arbition> actually I could test it fairly easily
08:03 <Arbition> I would just backup the settings and restore default
08:27 <Arbition> that 40w is the whole system mind
08:38 <Tigger_> that's quite good
08:38 <Arbition> not including monitors
08:54 <Arbition> which is relevant because I often leave it on with the monitors completely unpowered
09:43 <Arbition> it might be slightly higher now because I did add some hard drives to it though
10:15 <Arbition> 3.5in spinning rust drives idle at something like 5w
10:20 <Arbition> eahc
10:23 <Arbition> each
10:35 <Tigger_> I haven't done this in years, but I remember temporarily overclocking the CPU through the bios if I wanted a bit of a boost to run an emulator a bit faster, and things like that
11:00 <Arbition> the interface for overclocking is pretty civil
11:05 <Tigger_> yes
12:47 <Tigger_> but then a point was crossed where much of the intensive CPU stuff was offloaded to the GPU, so it was never an issue again
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11:01 <Warren1984> hi all
11:05 <Warren1984> I went cooking today
11:15 <Warren1984> at the lorikeet centre
11:25 <Warren1984> we made meatballs and spag
42:10 <President_Trump> who did u do that with?
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59:04 <Tigger_> were Breville appliances used?
59:27 <Warren1984> yes
59:38 <Warren1984> lorikeet centre
01:56 <Warren1984> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUXZThUx3Tc
01:59 <BlackDevil> Youtube: Gordon Lightfoot - If You Could Read My Mind (lyrics on screen) HQ Audio (Apr 8, 2013) Length: 3:47 - Category: Music - 67,649 views views - 439 likes (97.6%), 11 dislikes (2.4%)
02:55 <Tigger_> which Breville appliances were used?
03:13 <Warren1984> nuh there were none
04:01 <Tigger_> why not?
04:40 <Warren1984> President_Trump are your thoughts convoluted, self-referential, paranoid and anxiety ridden
04:46 <Warren1984> didn't need any
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05:04 <Warren1984> hey doctor
05:11 <doctor> Hey warren
05:29 <Warren1984> doctor are President_Trump's thoughts convoluted, self-referential, paranoid and anxiety ridden?
05:55 <doctor> Not from what I've noticed
06:16 <Tigger_> did you get an axe and smash all the non-Breville appliances to force them to purchase Breville replacements?
06:24 <Warren1984> no
06:32 <Warren1984> clip clop stomped on them
07:16 <Tigger_> today I used my Breville food processor to make falafel
07:27 <Tigger_> very nice too, far better than what the shops has
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11:24 <President_Trump> Warren1984 my thoughts are paranoid and anxiety ridden until i get a laptop better than yours
12:21 <Tigger_> a permanent state of anxiety, as Warren1984 purchases a new laptop every month
20:15 <Tigger_> well time for a walk, bbl
20:20 <Warren1984> Tigger_ if an INTP is a truth seeker
20:29 <Warren1984> what catholics want to point out
20:56 <Tigger_> what about Catholics?
21:07 <Warren1984> is they should get organized, by getting a job, saving money and to surrender to god
21:13 <Warren1984> convert
22:03 <Tigger_> Catholics do that?
22:38 <Warren1984> Unstructured
22:38 <Warren1984> more random than controlled, likes to look wierd, more in the clouds than grounded, more comfortable when things are imperfect, does not like the security of working for a company, does not feel best when working, likes to go to concerts, untraditional, more abstract than logical, impulsive, more likely to enjoy drinking and smoking, underachiever, prone to wanting a tattoo, bad
22:38 <Warren1984> with money, prone to petty theft, likes night life and crowds, more artistic than articulate, prefers the unfamiliar, can't do anything when they don't feel good, has love/hate relationship with most things, does not value organized religion, likes to be different, more likely to have been hyperactive as a child, prone to add or adhd, flakey, prone to missing appointements,
22:38 <Warren1984> finds ordinary tasks draining
23:30 <Warren1984> that is why xm is pushing me to work
23:39 <Warren1984> as if everyone else is an angel
24:13 <Tigger_> as you know, my advice is to save money and eat healthily
24:34 <President_Trump> warren ignore that advice, get a new laptop and eat kfc
26:15 <Warren1984> Organized
26:15 <Warren1984> more controlled than random, more logical than abstract, uncomfortable when things are imperfect, more grounded than in the clouds, overachiever, likes the security of working for a company, motivated, wants everything to add up perfectly, saves money instead of spending it, feels best when working, does not go to concerts frequently, feels success provides a good model/example
26:15 <Warren1984> for others, not a fan of political instability and revolution, /wants to be good, balanced, and have integrity; fears being corrupt, evil, or defective/, does not like to look weird, financially prudent, mature, prefers non fiction to fiction, not a big partier, values tradition, values hard work, anti-tattoos, purposeful, thinks of most things in terms of costs and benefits
27:19 <Tigger_> shoot people with tattoos
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31:26 <Tigger_> well shops for real now, bbl
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12:46 <ozoneclone> some wonderful person has decided to Z-line me while i was not online
15:15 <ajnin> to idle ?
15:16 <ozoneclone> tough crowd
15:20 <ozoneclone> wha?
16:00 <ajnin> the z-line
16:05 <ozoneclone> if being banned from austnet because you were idle for a while was a bannable offence the whole network would have to close
19:04 <ajnin> haha
19:08 <ajnin> i dont know
23:42 <Warren1984> <ozoneclone> some wonderful person has decided to Z-line me while i was not online <- that happened to me the other day
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28:22 <ozoneclone> what was the reason why, warren?
32:06 <Warren1984> going to make home made chips tonight
33:00 <ozoneclone> you got banned for making chips tonight. nice.
36:41 <Tigger_> Warren1984, when you make the chips, a good way to make them really crispy is to fry them for about three minutes, then lift them out of the oil, wait about five minutes, then dip them in again to continue frying them for about five minutes, or until they start to turn golden brown
37:28 <Warren1984> soon
37:29 <ajnin> Tigger_ do you boil them first ?
37:59 <Warren1984> the solution to the meaninglessness of existence is to be aware of time, organized and have good working memory
38:01 <Tigger_> I did try boiling them, but I found that didn't do much for them except to make them unnecessarily floppy
38:05 <Warren1984> be hard working, organized
38:20 <Warren1984> yet be unhappy
38:25 <Warren1984> like the INTJ
38:41 <Warren1984> or become nasty and aggressive like the ENTJ
38:45 <Tigger_> but I do soak the sliced chips in water for about an hour, to get rid of the starch
41:31 <ajnin> Tigger_ boil then dry
41:42 <ajnin> then put in fridge to cool them down
41:43 <Tigger_> I tried that
41:45 <ajnin> then dry again
41:47 <ajnin> then fry
41:47 <Tigger_> no good
41:51 <ajnin> ahhhhhh
41:57 <ajnin> might be a trick to it
42:01 <ajnin> that I dont know
42:47 <Tigger_> what I do is 1. slice, 2. soak in water for an hour, especially under a slightly running tap, 3. dry, 4. fry for one minute exactly, 5. put them in the freezer for a day, 6. refry
43:47 <Tigger_> and do a lot at once, since they'll last in the freezer for months
44:08 <ajnin> yea
44:21 <ajnin> I used to do that when I did not work
44:30 <ajnin> i would speed a few days doing food prep
44:36 <ajnin> and freeze it all
45:01 <ajnin> I owuld make chips, schiznels, chickenbrest
45:03 <Warren1984> If there is a reason that a bridge to be built you can bet Tigger_ thought of a logical reason for it
45:08 <ajnin> and then just get them out when I needed it
45:15 <Warren1984> Tigger_ sees everything through the square prism of logic
46:01 <Tigger_> the double fry in one session is for when you're too lazy and impatient to go through the freezing process
46:23 <Tigger_> still does a decent job
46:50 <Warren1984> Tigger_ do you want lots of unproductive sex
47:17 <Tigger_> unreproductive
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43:09 <Warren1984> just had hot made chips and steak
43:22 <Warren1984> going to the lorikeet centre helps boost my confidence
43:37 <Tigger_> did you double fry the chips?
43:39 <Tigger_> hi Lish
43:40 <Warren1984> nuh
43:45 <Tigger_> why not?
43:54 <Warren1984> my Mum says go and buy some chips
43:59 <Warren1984> so I said no I will make them
44:12 <Warren1984> you boil them with the heat on high
44:18 <Warren1984> and the lid off
44:22 <Warren1984> in a pot
44:31 <Warren1984> hey Lish
44:44 <Tigger_> you boiled the chips?
44:54 <Warren1984> deep fried
44:59 <Lish> Hey
45:03 <Warren1984> immersed in oil
45:03 <Lish> What's happening
45:08 <Tigger_> double frying the chips is the professional way
45:45 <Tigger_> Lish, I made falafel in my Breville food processor today
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46:47 <ozoneclone> butthead lish
46:48 <circle> where is jerome Tigger_
46:59 <Tigger_> he usually comes on after 2AM
50:51 <Arbition> ok I have removed the overclock
51:05 <Arbition> Idling somewhere between 49 and 53 watts
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52:07 <Arbition> ok restarting into overlocked to compare
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54:22 <Lish> Tigger, pic?
54:57 <Tigger_> I'll take photos after
55:03 <Arbition> Tigger_: Yeah overclock is seeing basically the same power 49 to 54 watts, even spotted a 47 watt point. So its within any uncertainty bands
55:22 <Lish> Was it fun?
55:26 <Tigger_> so you're getting extra speed for free
55:35 <Arbition> these are idle powers
55:37 <Arbition> not load powers
56:07 <Arbition> But yes it does mean the potential is available at any time for free
56:09 <Tigger_> Lish, on the youtube videos they seem to be spending 5-10 minutes with their food processors, but mine did it in 15 seconds or so
56:26 <Arbition> but I imagine when under load it would give a worse processing per unit power
56:45 <Lish> Great you saved 10mims
56:50 <Lish> Of the endless time you have haha
56:57 <Lish> But good your processor is good
56:59 <Tigger_> is silicon drift with overclocked CPUs still a thing?
57:19 <Warren1984> Arbition I want to see you beat Tigger_ in a game of AOE 2 and you have to go as goths
57:30 <Tigger_> Lish, it tastes great too, better than any falafel I've had before
57:36 <Arbition> no idea, but as I was saying, because of frequency scaling, it isn't overclocked at all times
57:45 <Arbition> It *might* just be a slightly higher voltage
58:03 <Lish> That's great tigger
58:14 <Tigger_> how often do you make high demands on the CPU?
58:18 <Lish> I'm watching state of origin
58:19 <Warren1984> Tigger_ could you replace the monitor with a hot chicks stinker and lick it out, while playing AOE 2 against me and still win the game?
58:19 <Arbition> not often
58:24 <Lish> But I'm dead tired and cold
58:33 <Warren1984> Lish time for bed
58:37 <Lish> Doing 10,000 steps a day is tiring
58:47 <Lish> When you have 7am-7pm meetings
58:53 <Tigger_> also the pricing: one packet of 14 or 15 falafel balls is $6, for $8 worth of ingredients I've got enough to make about 40 falafel balls
58:55 <Warren1984> there is a large 9inch black cock under the covers waiting for you
59:24 <Lish> Warren1984: don't be a dick head?
59:25 <Warren1984> Tigger_ could you replace the monitor with a hot chicks stinker and lick it out, while playing AOE 2 against me and still win the game?
59:32 <Lish> Tigger why can't you just get rid of this idiot
59:43 <Warren1984> get rid of Lish instead
59:58 <Lish> Why get rid of me
59:58 <Tigger_> the dangers of living in Queensland: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/animals/north-queensland-man-bitten-by-snake-under-his-pillow-20160530-gp7dje.html
00:07 <Warren1984> because your the one complained
00:10 <Warren1984> complaining
00:16 <Lish> I didn't complain
00:16 <Arbition> looking at this, the vcore is hovering at pretty typical levels
00:21 <Lish> You're inappropriate
00:28 <Warren1984> control yourself Lish not others
00:33 <Arbition> I didn't really overclock it that much I might add.
00:44 <Lish> Warren grow up
00:55 <Warren1984> you always talk about yourself like we care
01:10 <Lish> I was talking to Tigger_
01:11 <Lish> Not you
01:13 <Warren1984> masculine overbearing and aggressive
01:22 <Warren1984> controlling
01:24 <Arbition> I overclocked to 4.5GHz, where the unlocked i7 (mine being the i5) went to 4.4GHz, so from this perspective, its not a particularly controversial overlock, it is essentially the same silicon with features disabled and maybe binned a bit worse
01:29 <Lish> Why do you always talk about sexual things relating to me?
01:29 <Tigger_> it's starting to rain
01:33 <Lish> It's very disturbing
01:56 <Lish> There's no place for sexual comments, it's not on
02:14 <Tigger_> Warren1984, listen to Lish
02:16 <Warren1984> didn't realize you lived in the 1900 century
02:50 <Lish> You're disrespectful
02:57 <Lish> It's disgusting
03:13 <Warren1984> your disgusting
03:32 <Tigger_> just an observation over the years, how the emphasis has shifted for many people from speed to storage capacity
03:33 <Lish> I'm not though. I don't make sexual comments that are vulgar
03:35 <Lish> That's all you
03:53 <Warren1984> go back to the 1900's then
04:19 <Arbition> Tigger_: Simple figures I guess. It is harder to quote simple metrics for GPU power
04:24 <Lish> If you act like this towards women who threaten you, you won't get far in life
04:38 <Arbition> its like saying "Oh my car has 200kW" but this isn't the whole story
04:38 <Warren1984> I will just avoid them
04:43 <Arbition> it is an easy metric though
04:47 <Warren1984> don't like controlling women
04:48 <Arbition> storage capacity is an easy metric
04:49 <Lish> Don't be jealous I'm smarter, more successful, funnier, and an all round better person than you
04:57 <Lish> Jealousy is a bad trait to have
05:04 <Tigger_> ah yes, GPU is the main arena for speed now
05:08 <Warren1984> you are disgusting masculine, always talk about yourself
05:11 <Warren1984> and no one cares
05:16 <Warren1984> you lack empathy
05:16 * Arbition says hoarsly "It's envy"
05:20 <Warren1984> and you are stupid
05:25 <Warren1984> little intellect
05:37 <Lish> I was talking to Tigger_ about his falafels
05:42 <Lish> Until you started carrying on
05:47 <Arbition> Warren1984: this is basically just a slugging match now...
06:08 <Warren1984> go and dominate someone who wants to be dominated Lish
06:12 <Lish> Just don't talk to me if you're not interested in me warren, don't make sexual comments all the time
06:19 <Lish> It's just weird and not appropriate
06:26 <Warren1984> I don't care
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06:32 <Lish> Well you should
07:17 <Warren1984> no body asked for your opinion
07:34 <Lish> You're so boring
07:37 <Arbition> don't do this Warren1984
07:40 <Warren1984> your so selfish
07:44 <Arbition> This is stuff that happens in #nerdhacks
07:48 <Warren1984> lets talk about me all the time
07:52 <Lish> Can I go back to talking to tigger about his falafels? Without you sexually commenting
07:59 <Warren1984> what do you mean Arbition?
08:07 <Warren1984> no
08:14 <xm> 20:03 < Lish> Don't be jealous I'm smarter, more successful, funnier, and an all round better person than you
08:17 <xm> 20:03 < Lish> Jealousy is a bad trait to have
08:21 <Lish> He means you're acting like a spastic from #nerdhacks
08:24 <xm> AoE II or SC II game between you two
08:29 <xm> to 'harmonise' the tension
08:33 <Warren1984> did I ask your opinion Lish
08:33 <Lish> Haha
08:39 <Warren1984> then keep your trap shut
08:42 <Arbition> Constant ad hominems. It's just like hearing jerome talk
08:45 <Tigger_> Cairns snake catcher Matt Hagan was called to remove the 1.2-metre reptile and comfort the man and his wife, who had been rattled by his screams.
08:45 <Tigger_> ... "When I got there, his wife was steadfastly refusing to go back inside the house ... she suggested we either burn it down or they were moving to New Zealand."
08:47 <Warren1984> dumb masculine bitch
08:55 <xm> im writing a The Curesque track
09:11 <Tigger_> get a snake inside, so burn the house down
09:12 Kick: Warren1984 was kicked by ChanOP ([Lish] too much)
09:18 <xm> i did the drum sequencing from scratch but im afraid my experience with this kidn of rock is limited
09:19 <Lish> Seriously he's insane
09:24 <xm> so it sounds very derivative
09:24 <Arbition> bitter
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09:47 <Arbition> xm: I don't really understand the significance of that unfortunately
10:29 <xm> Arbition: the less you are immersed in with a particulare genre of music the less original what you produce will be
10:33 <xm> in general
10:38 <xm> -you are*
10:50 <xm> i didnt word that right
10:52 <xm> but anyway
11:09 <Arbition> I think I get it
11:16 <Lish> Peace and quiet
11:22 <xm> i dont think such a thing exists with code though, other than design patterns
11:27 <Lish> Tigger_: how many falafels did you make
11:45 <Arbition> idk, what you said is essentially, the less experience you have in it, the worse it will be
11:46 <Tigger_> I don't know yet, but there appears to be enough for about 40 balls
11:50 <xm> kinda
11:54 <Lish> Not bad
11:56 <xm> back to the track
12:01 <xm> and ill be back for the drama
12:02 <Arbition> gl hf xm
12:06 <Lish> Falafel Friday is going to be a thing
12:32 <Arbition> yep, still seeing 49 watts
12:45 <xm> Lish vs Warren1984. who will have the most resources? who will produce the most units? who will have the best technology? i look forward to the IRC replay when i scroll up
12:45 <Arbition> dem hard drives
13:09 <doctor> That Master Chef is a pretty horrible show
13:14 <xm> very
13:18 <doctor> The contestants must have no self-respect
13:22 <Warren1984> can't be bothered to argue with her
13:37 <Tigger_> I like the show where they have two asian females who are really nasty
13:40 <xm> the only contestant i ever liked was a Christian that refused to bow and acknowledge the Dalai Lama as "His Holiness"
13:43 <Arbition> Hi reality TV. How are you?
13:58 <Warren1984> Lish = tranny
14:03 <xm> rofl what
14:14 <Arbition> dude Warren1984. You're turning into Jerome. Don't be like this.
14:28 <doctor> Yeah, they're all pretty spineless. The Dalai Lama must also be desperate for exposure
15:00 <xm> i wonder if he looked at the meats and thought to himself if any of them could have been his friends
15:26 <xm> im finding the weeks are going very fast this winter. perhaps i have never noticed, but i think time subjectively runs faster in winter from the dark
15:40 <doctor> lol
15:40 <Arbition> I like winter (in adelaide anyway)
15:42 <xm> i know temperature can also affect your perception of tme too
15:45 <Tigger_> the dalai lama is a meat eater, as he explains he has hepatitis (contracted from a prostitute), so must eat meat
16:04 <Lish> Warren1984: what's your problem with me specifically?
16:35 <Warren1984> Arbition would you use any of these in AOE 2 -> http://www.forgottenempires.net/aof/strategy/how-do-you-counter-longbowmen
17:24 <Tigger_> How do you counter massed Longbowmen? This has to be the single most asked question on Age of Empires 2 forums
17:51 <Arbition> I already did Warren1984, why I did a load of skirmishers
18:08 <Warren1984> anything else
18:13 <Warren1984> like the goths units
18:21 <Arbition> sure I'd give them a shot
18:35 <Arbition> There was actually one other I was going to give a try
18:39 <Warren1984> I would be interested in seeing you win with Huskarl
19:00 <Warren1984> I apologize Lish
19:01 <Arbition> assuming I win next time
19:08 <Warren1984> I went too far
19:12 <Arbition> Tigger_ has been adapting somewhat
19:34 <Warren1984> have you played him again
19:55 <Lish> Not accepted warren
20:18 <Arbition> no I haven't played AoEII for at least 2 weeks now
20:29 <Lish> Ok goodnight
20:34 <Warren1984> I am about the same
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23:09 <Tigger_> I thought I was the one who discovered the power of a longbowmen army, but apparently they're commonly used
23:29 <Warren1984> Tigger_ you stole the idea off the internet
23:45 <Warren1984> but we must find other ways to counter the longbowmen
23:48 <Arbition> I'll call it convergent evolution
24:08 <Warren1984> maybe siege rams and Huskarl
24:13 <Arbition> even though there are better names for it lol
24:29 <Warren1984> Arbition could you win with siege rams and Huskarl
25:36 <Tigger_> my very favourite example of convergent evolution is the marsupial sabre toothed cat that independently became a placental mammal
26:09 <Arbition> that may or may not be more effective than straight huskarl. Obviously it gives more life time to huskarl, but rams are also slow, giving more time for the enemy to prepare alternative forces, and are more of a pain to organise
26:28 <Arbition> So maybe...?
27:00 <Tigger_> this article misses one important weakness of the longbowmen, that they're only really powerful in big numbers, if attacked while their numbers are still moderate, they can be beaten
27:29 <Warren1984> that is how I beat you Tigger_
27:38 <Warren1984> you only had a small amount of them
27:45 <Arbition> anyway I'm going to bed
27:49 <Tigger_> with 100+ longbowmen, none of the units on that page are going to defeat them
27:54 <Tigger_> yes, you did Warren1984
27:56 <Tigger_> night Arbition
29:02 <President_Trump> Warren1984 if u got a better laptop you could beat Tigger_ at aoe2
29:04 <Warren1984> Arbition lets have a game
29:19 <Tigger_> he's just gone to bed
30:09 <Warren1984> wake him up
30:13 <xm> /3
30:57 <President_Trump> Warren1984 you need a faster ssd so your units will move faster
31:42 <Warren1984> why is lish like that
31:59 <Tigger_> your graphics card needs 16Gb of DDR5 ram to overpower my longbowmen
32:02 <Warren1984> just starts being nasty
32:16 <Warren1984> it would make no difference
32:43 <Warren1984> I say something in a joking way
32:47 <Warren1984> and then she becomes nasty
32:58 <Warren1984> so then I become nasty back
33:10 <Warren1984> because my feelings are hurt
33:17 <Tigger_> you have to be more Christian
33:53 <Warren1984> 20:03 < Lish> Don't be jealous I'm smarter, more successful, funnier, and an all round better person than you
34:01 <Warren1984> why does she have to bring that up
34:23 <Warren1984> just shows she is insensitive
34:41 <President_Trump> Warren1984 after she said that you should have said 'yeah but im better looking'
34:54 <Warren1984> good idea President_Trump
35:01 <Tigger_> also you have a better computer
40:00 <President_Trump> http://imgur.com/yWwbKaD
40:23 <Tigger_> chris has grown a beard
40:26 <Tigger_> where is he?
41:01 <President_Trump> i dont know
41:05 <President_Trump> someone just showed that pic
41:35 <President_Trump> Austnet.org is called home by many a lonesome loser, one of which is Awolf. Awolf is a 30 year old man (as of 2014) who lives at home with his dearest mother and cat, doesn't work and eats KFC a lot, while pretending to work out. He is well known for telling people in his personal room, #cats, that he's off to do some "weights", only to return 30 seconds later. #cats is an interesting
41:35 <President_Trump> channel where Awolf goes to seek solace, but only finds mockery and laughter at the hands of many. He is also known by the name mrwuf, further cementing his status as a faggot furry.
41:38 <President_Trump> mrwuf
41:48 <President_Trump> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/index.php?title=Austnet&diff=prev&oldid=675633
41:48 Quit: President_Trump ([email protected]) Z-Lined
48:07 <Warren1984> Tigger_ why don't you stick up for me in front of lish
48:35 <Tigger_> she'd want me to stick up for her
48:38 <Warren1984> what if you play Tigger_ and build lots of elite longbowmen
48:48 <Warren1984> but why would you?
49:04 <Tigger_> this is why it's difficult when friends fight
49:31 <Warren1984> you have known me long enough to know when things are a joke
49:42 <Warren1984> but she becomes a tyranical monster
49:58 <Tigger_> but you are both very angry with each other
50:08 <Warren1984> tyrannical
50:53 <Warren1984> president_trump says dirty stuff all the time
51:19 <Tigger_> he gets away with it though
51:25 <Warren1984> exactly
51:28 <Tigger_> though not always, he just got z-lined
51:38 <Warren1984> like he always inappropriately talks about tarryn's stinker
51:47 <Warren1984> for what?
52:48 <Tigger_> you talk about stinkers a lot too
52:49 <Warren1984> I can't help the fact my personality clashes with hers and vise versa
52:56 <Tigger_> you're the one he copied it off
54:01 <Warren1984> that is why I don't understand why xm thinks she is normal
54:08 <Warren1984> because she is opinionated
54:15 <Warren1984> she would make you her slave
54:38 <Warren1984> she would expect material gifts and make you work hard
54:51 <Warren1984> all for what?
54:57 <Warren1984> meaningless sex
55:14 <Tigger_> no I don't think even that
55:24 <Warren1984> what do you think then?
55:58 <Warren1984> she thinks she controls everything
56:05 <Warren1984> like a male dog pissing on trees
58:38 <Tigger_> was Sophie ever like that?
10:51 <doctor> i think you might be putting too much significance onto lish
11:15 <doctor> just don't associate with her, and if you feel like you have to, just be direct but polite
11:31 <doctor> the less thought you put into her and her reactions to you the better
25:17 <jl> just fuck her hard
25:36 <jl> bitches need a good cocking everynow n then to silence them up
36:45 <Warren1984> what have you being up to doctor
38:07 <Warren1984> yeah Sophie was dominating as time
38:09 <Warren1984> times
38:15 <Warren1984> they blame their periods
38:18 <Warren1984> peroids
38:21 <Warren1984> it's bullshit
38:27 <Warren1984> it's the animal in them
38:34 <Warren1984> their instinct
38:42 <Warren1984> that is why sex is disgusting
38:55 <Warren1984> better to be detached
39:33 <Warren1984> only a small percentage of women get pain from their period
39:38 <xm> you are becoming like Tisk
39:45 <Warren1984> and their is panadol for period pain
39:53 <xm> i would just forget about Lish
40:07 <xm> ive had plenty of arguments with her but we both only engage in them when bored
40:28 <xm> it is fun to see how try to argue, but if you pay attention she never does put up an argument
40:43 <xm> they are just attacks and everything is "because i say so"
40:53 <xm> she is normal as far as IRC females go
44:13 <xm> she talks about reality tv, sports, travel etc
44:23 <xm> pretty much all the things normal people talk about
44:27 <xm> boring is relative though
44:38 <xm> a normal person would find taht entertaining, we dont
46:21 <Warren1984> so why doesn't she talk to normal people then
46:33 <xm> you shouldnt care what she thinks
46:37 <xm> and just find her amusing
46:46 <xm> like say ridiculous things for teh reaction
47:09 <xm> it is very easy to make her furious without getting banned, but i dont really have much time these days
47:25 <Tigger_> http://www.smh.com.au/world/chinese-boy-born-with-31-fingers-and-toes-20160505-gonobr.html
47:28 <xm> i dont think she is that bad
47:29 <Warren1984> always talks about herself as well
47:34 <xm> like all females
47:50 <xm> women are ego-centric
48:21 <Tigger_> The boy, nicknamed Hong Hong, has 15 fingers and 16 toes, with two palms on each hand and no thumbs, according to CBS.
48:38 <Tigger_> they could just train him to play piano
48:51 <Tigger_> the youngest to ever master Liszt
48:52 <xm> like in Gattica
48:56 <Warren1984> Jen isn't ego-centric
49:20 <Warren1984> and she seems warmly interested in others
49:21 <xm> yeah jen isnt as bad when it comes to conversations
49:41 <xm> but she is teh exception
49:41 <Warren1984> my sisters friend is like Lish
49:49 <xm> which one?
49:49 <Warren1984> a man in a woman's body
49:54 <Warren1984> I better not say
49:55 <xm> lol
50:02 <xm> is it the big one?
50:03 <Warren1984> known her since I was 18
50:06 <Warren1984> no
50:08 <xm> is she hot?
50:19 <xm> does knowing her for so long make you not that interested in her
50:20 <Warren1984> yeah she is nice looking
50:24 <xm> like familiarity
50:24 <Tigger_> what sorts of things does she say?
50:42 <Warren1984> I just don't like her personality like I don't like Lish's
51:52 <Tigger_> but what mean things does she say?
51:57 <Warren1984> I don't like being controlled
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52:08 <Warren1984> she is in vain
52:16 <Warren1984> like believes she can get any man
52:54 <Warren1984> lish would be suited to an ISTP
53:12 <Warren1984> ISTP's are more submissive than dominant and value money over acceptance
53:31 <Warren1984> perfect for lish
53:41 <Warren1984> who is more dominant than submissive
53:45 <Warren1984> and materialistic
54:11 <Tigger_> does she get any man?
55:46 <Warren1984> for short periods of time
55:51 <Warren1984> before they give up on her
56:12 <Warren1984> they call her a Psycho bitch
56:26 <xm> show us a photo
56:29 <Warren1984> nuh
56:31 <xm> in private
56:37 <Warren1984> in case any information is spilt
56:43 <Warren1984> spilt
56:45 <Tigger_> I will threaten her on facebook
56:50 <Warren1984> however you spell it
56:50 <xm> lol
57:11 <xm> Tigger_ will threaten to steal all her potatos to make his fries
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